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Eight Yankees become free agents

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 30, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The MLB Players Union released the list of players who became free agents today. It includes eight Yankees.

Luis Ayala
Eric Chavez
Bartolo Colon
Freddy Garcia
Andruw Jones
Damaso Marte
Sergio Mitre
Jorge Posada

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83 Responses to “Eight Yankees become free agents”

  1. cs in la October 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    I’d try to keep Jones, Chavez, Garcia.

  2. 86w183 October 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Would expect the Yanks to let ‘em all walk and then see about lower contracts than what arbitration might bring.

    That’s especially true in the case of Garcia who made about $ 4 M last year and, thus would cost at least $ 3 M + to offer arbitration to.

    ayala might get an arbitration offer since it wasn’t a whole lot of money and he was very useful for most of the season.

  3. Red Robin October 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Keeps:

    Eric Chavez
    Bartolo Colon
    Damaso Marte (a.k.a. Octavio Dotel)

  4. Red Robin October 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    That is , World Champion Octavio Dotel .

  5. Red Robin October 30th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Cashman: sign Alfredo Aceves .

    That should be as much a priority as signing C . C .

    Aceves may suck once coming back to N . Y . , but at least keeps him from succeeding with the Red Sucks .

  6. backbench October 30th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Red Robin,

    Great idea. ‘Ace’ back in Pinstripes would deliver the two-for-one deal you describe.

  7. Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    I’d offer arbitration to Garcia. I also would try to bring back Jones, Colon, and possibly, Marte.

  8. m October 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Things will start percolating pretty soon.

    Bret,

    In theory, your thoughts are absolutely correct. When right, Grady Sizemore is the better player than Gardner. Has Sizemore played much corner OF? Right now, Gardner has two things over Sizemore. He’s avoided the DL. And he’s one of the best defensive LF.

    I could see taking a risk on Sizemore. Moving Gardner to the bench until Swisher is moved.

    Now if Andruw Jones is serious about getting back to full-time playing shape (kind of disgusted with those comments, like playing for the Yankees was a hobby~not enough to get into playing shape). Then maybe I sign him back. 4 of the 5 of Gardner/Granderson/Swisher/Sizemore/Jones by the end of the season would be a pretty nice rotation.

    Garcia would be a better bet than Colon, I think. Did he run out of gas? Whatever it was he wasn’t hitting 95 on the radar gun in the second half.

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 30th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    backbench – Red Robin is a Sux troll. If you don’t mind talking Yankee baseball with a Sux Troll who played the idiot all season long (and got rewarded with the Titanic Collapse karma, ha ha) have at.

    :)

    “But in my way of looking at things, you have to entertain even the smallest possibility that it does not happen and the “what do they do if” scenarios.”

    Villa, admittedly a good way of doing business.

    **********

    Another thing I was sure about – I was ready for snow. Boy was I wrong. :(

    My bold prediction: Garcia comes back.

    My less-bold prediction: Yankee starting rotation will be CC, AJ, Nova, Hughes and Garcia

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 30th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Ghost, I’d like to see Bartolo brought back too.

  11. m October 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Did Colon run out of gas? :P

  12. backbench October 30th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Trisha,

    Thanks for the heads up.

    Still think getting Ace back would be a plus. Anything to keep the RS in a downward spiral.

  13. Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    m October 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Things will start percolating pretty soon.

    Bret,

    In theory, your thoughts are absolutely correct. When right, Grady Sizemore is the better player than Gardner. Has Sizemore played much corner OF? Right now, Gardner has two things over Sizemore. He’s avoided the DL. And he’s one of the best defensive LF.

    I could see taking a risk on Sizemore. Moving Gardner to the bench until Swisher is moved.

    Now if Andruw Jones is serious about getting back to full-time playing shape (kind of disgusted with those comments, like playing for the Yankees was a hobby~not enough to get into playing shape). Then maybe I sign him back. 4 of the 5 of Gardner/Granderson/Swisher/Sizemore/Jones by the end of the season would be a pretty nice rotation.

    Garcia would be a better bet than Colon, I think. Did he run out of gas? Whatever it was he wasn’t hitting 95 on the radar gun in the second half.
    ============

    I suspect that Colon just fatigued after a heavy workload in 2011. I think with some rest in the offseason, that he could bounce back. The silver lining to Colon’s fadout in 2011, is that it might scare away other teams, and keep Colon’s price tag down. Within reason, I think that Colon is worth giving another shot (say, $2 million, plus incentives).

    I like Sizemore too, but not more than Gardner. I would like to upgrade on Swisher.

  14. Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    m October 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Did Colon run out of gas? :P
    ===========

    Yikes! That stinks! :P

    To-thirds of a pun: “P” – “U”

  15. Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Repost:

    Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Gary October 30th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    LockDown October 30th, 2011 at 10:19 am
    yanks61 October 30th, 2011 at 3:58 am

    Good Morning everyone back on the snowy East Coast!

    The NYDN has a good article on this fall’s free agents:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..e-1.969065

    Larry Bowa predicts that the Yanks will sign CC ( as expected) and Jason Kubel. Claims Kubel will be a great power threat at YS. With NYY picking up Swisher’s option, could they sign Kubel and package Swisher in a trade for a pitcher?

    Do you believe that Kubel is a good alternative to Swish in RF?

    ———————-

    I rather keep swisher.

    ==================
    I find this Kubel idea quite intriguing. I think that he could be a significant upgrade over Swisher for three reasons:

    First, he’s a better left-handed batter than Swisher. The Yanks struggled against righties in 2011 in large part, because Swisher and Tex disappeared against righties. Kubel would go a long way in correcting that deficiency, without hurting the Yanks too much against lefties.

    Second, Kubel hits more than Swisher. Yes, he walks less than Swisher, but he hits for higher average (albeit with marginally less power) than Swisher. This translates into hitting for higher average with runners on base and in scoring position. So, even with a somewhat lower OPS than Swisher, Kubel likely would be a more productive hitter than Swisher in terms of run production. The principal factor that favors Swisher over Kubel is his higher OPS. However, at some point, OPS isn’t enough–a hitter has to hit with runners on base to produce runs.

    Third, Kubel has pretty good numbers in Yankee Stadium over the last three years. I think that it would be reasonable to expect that Kubel might be able to improve on those numbers facing weaker pitching as he often would if he played for the Yanks. As a better left-handed batter than Swisher, I suspect that Kubel might be able to exploit the short porch in left field

    Finally, I tend to think that Swisher pretty much plateaued as a Yankee—what we’ve seen is what we can expect in the future; i.e., Swisher is pretty good, but not great, with a tendency to disappear in the big moments, particularly in October. I think that Kubel may have some room yet for growth. Picking up Kubel would be a really nice creative move for the Yanks.

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 30th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    backbench, from what I’ve been hearing, the Sux are considering moving Ace to the rotation. That could be a chancy move considering his back problems. Still, I’m betting he’d rather be a starter with a team than a relief pitcher. My guess is that the Sux lure him back.

    But not to worry. There aren’t enough live preservers to save the team on that sinking ship!

    :)

  17. randy l. October 30th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    “Did Colon run out of gas?”

    no , he ran low on stem cells .

    he’ll get more this winter.

    i’d bring him back.

  18. 86w183 October 30th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    After a good start on July 2 Bartolo Colon was 6-3, 2.88.

    In his last 15 starts Colon was 2-7, 5.18 and averaged 5 1/3 innings a start

    He’s going to be older still next year. Can’t see guaranteeing him anything.

    The Yanks need to get young and more athletic and that means moving on from aging retreads like Chavez, Jones, Colon, Garcia et al. Maybe not all of them, but you can’t keep everyone AND get younger.

    Kubel would be an excellent addition, but if you sign him you need to move Swish, assuming Montero gets a lot of AB as the DH. Eithe rthat or plan on paying $ 15-18 M for a RF platoon, which makes little sense.

  19. Giuseppe Franco October 30th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I’m heavily in favor of getting younger only if it translates to getting better.

    Getting better is more important than getting younger.

  20. Patrick October 30th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Bring none of them back.

  21. m October 30th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    It wasn’t meant to be a pun. That would have been quite rude!

    Upon second glance, my original post looked like it was Garcia who ran out of gas.

    I did think about the stem cells, too randy l.

    I’m not as high on Colon.

    But Freddie is in that crafty vet stage. He can get by with less now.

    Is Buerhle a FA? He intrigues me more than the other 2.

  22. Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    I like Buerhle, but he is going to require multiple years to sign him. I think that he could wind up being over-priced..

  23. Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Giuseppe Franco October 30th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I’m heavily in favor of getting younger only if it translates to getting better.

    Getting better is more important than getting younger.
    ============

    I don’t know about that. There certainly can be a tradeoff between getting better and getting younger. It really depends on the situation. I don’t have any problem bringing back some of the older guys if you don’t have to commit too many years….

  24. 108 stitches October 30th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Boston is in dire straits for pitching. Their new GM is looking for low cost pitchers and Meat-Tray will sign on the cheap.

  25. Giuseppe Franco October 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Ghostwriter October 30th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Giuseppe Franco October 30th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I’m heavily in favor of getting younger only if it translates to getting better.

    Getting better is more important than getting younger.
    ============

    I don’t know about that. There certainly can be a tradeoff between getting better and getting younger. It really depends on the situation. I don’t have any problem bringing back some of the older guys if you don’t have to commit too many years….

    ———

    Just making the point that getting younger doesn’t necessarily translate to getting better.

    The veteran signings last offseason (Colon, Garcia, Jones, Chavez, etc, etc) is essentially what helped put them over the top in the toughest division in MLB.

    Not suggesting that will happen again, but those guys helped this team win a lot of games.

    I don’t think getting younger for the sake of getting younger shouldn’t be the primary strategy. Getting better is what’s most important regardless of the age of players.

  26. Villa Nova-Ya October 30th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Trisha -

    I couldn’t believe when I heard the amounts of snow that fell in some places!!!

    We were fortunate to get less than 6 inches.

    I hope you’re managing okay.

    ****

    If I have to choose between Colon and Garcia, I guess I’d keep Garcia, though Colon at full strength was mighty impressive and effective. But, he’s a big boy and I wonder if that added to his running out of gas at the end, too?

    ****

    It’s hard to see Jorge Posada’s name on that list and really have no idea what is going to happen.

    ****

    If Chavez doesn’t retire, I’d like the Yankees to keep him. Jones did his job – if they keep him, fine, if they don’t, fine.

    Not sure about Ayala. He was mostly serviceable and effective in the role he had, but the question is is he easily replaceable, and I think probably yes.

    Marte, no. Mitre – keep forgetting he was still theirs!

  27. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 30th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    I’d like for the Yankees to get bold and start playing the youngsters. Isn’t it time to see what they’ve got?

  28. 108 stitches October 30th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Mixed reports with LH Mark Buehrle. Some say he’d prefer to remain in the mid-west but it’s not a given.
    He had thoughts of calling it a career after this season but has since said he’s like to pitch another 2 years. He’s had a good steady career. Almost a LH version of Freddy Garcia with a little more velocity. A good fit until Banuelos is ready.

  29. Villa Nova-Ya October 30th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Yeah, it would be nice to see another lefty in the rotation. Not sure who, though.

  30. 108 stitches October 30th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    If Luis Ayala is not signed, Colon may be a bullpen piece. He’s able to warm up quickly which helps his cause. Not having pitched at all in 2010 and not much in 2009, it was no surprise that he went downhill in later innings and as the season progressed.

  31. Villa Nova-Ya October 30th, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    I know. I don’t really want to shut the door on Colon, either.

    Again, I’m more than happy that this is someone else’s job.

  32. Keith--FL October 30th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    This from Mark Feinsand on Twitter:
    It’s amazing that people take a small sample size like the postseason & make big-picture judgements. Bringing Swisher back was a no-brainer.

    Hello Mark….Swisher is a mistake hitter who has problems when he doesn’t see many mistake pitches in the postseason….that is a fact that cost us vs. the Tigers…I actually think trading Swisher is a no brainier…and getting someone who hits for a high average like .320++ and less power in RF as our CF and 2B provide lots of power where normally those are not Positions with lots of HR’s….our highest average this year was like .305 with Cano….maybe a better more clutch hitter in RF enables us to get that big hit….and the sample size is 3 postseasons, which is enough plus it’s now also turned mental with Swisher too, like ARod, etc….Yankees need clutch hitters Cashman!!! Hitters like Posada, Matsui, Damon, Jeter, Cano are clutch and don’t let the postseason bright lights affect them!

  33. Jerkface October 30th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Kubel would go a long way in correcting that deficiency, without hurting the Yanks too much against lefties.

    He is bad against lefties, they would have to platoon him. And he is significantly worse on defense. Kubel would be a net downgrade. Especially because Swisher doesnt have long time problems against righties, merely something weird that happened this year. If you look at the last 3 years, Swisher has been better in almost every way. Kubel is no lock to hit for a higher average either.

  34. 108 stitches October 30th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Both Swisher and Teixeira need to contain their likeness for swinging for the fences. Both need work with Kevin Long to develop more level swings.
    Too many times were seen where they had 2 runners on with one out and could have adjusted to hit down the opposite line to score at least one run and probably 2 with average speed on the basepaths.
    Live by the home run – die by the home run.

  35. blake October 30th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Picking up Swishers option is a no brainer…….whether you keep him though after that depends on what you can get for him and what you can replace him with.

  36. blake October 30th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Kubel would be a bench player for the Yankees…..he could get some DH time and some ABs off the bench but he’s not as good as any of the current outfielders they have…

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 30th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Nothing helps make up for a baseball-less Sunday afternoon than watching Pittsburgh dismantle the Patriots!!!!

    No, I am not a fan of football, but I find I am highly motivated anytime I can tune in to see any beantown team socked in the jaw.

    I’m easy that way.

    :)

  38. tomingeorgia October 30th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    trisha, How much snow at your house? When we decided to move south, I strapped a snow shovel to the top of the truck, and when the first person asked what it was, we figured we could stop looking.

  39. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Good article on Eppler and the Yankee’s pro scouting dep’t.

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._is_a.html

  40. tomingeorgia October 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    MTU,
    With all the money the Yanks saved by signing Jones, Chavez, Mertin, Colon and Garcia, Eppler should be paid better than he probably is.

  41. 108 stitches October 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
    Good article on Eppler and the Yankee’s pro scouting dep’t.

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde….._is_a.html
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Good article and thanks for it. Billy Eppler has shown results since Cashman was given more authority in 2006 and it’s paid off.
    The one thing I’d like to see at the lower classification levels is more specialty coaches and instructors to show the youngest of Yankees how to improve their skills at a quicker pace and carry the knowledge as they advance to the AA and AAA levels.

  42. Villa Nova-Ya October 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    MTU

    Very worthwhile read. Thanks.

  43. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Tom-

    He was just interviewed for the Angels job.

    His dep’t. has done a great job recently.

    They must like his work because they have doubled the number people
    under him over the years.

  44. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    My pleasure guys.

    Here’s a nother one by Hoch.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....d=25789532

    Summarizes what he thinks the Yanks OS need might be.

    Asks the question, “would anyone bite on a trade for Burnett ? ”

    Enjoy.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock October 30th, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Thanks for article, MTU.

    Hope Eppler goes to Angels. I don’t care for his instincts, since he’s the prime mover on Joba’s banishment.

    Get rid of him, then take a re-vote :D.

  46. tomingeorgia October 30th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    MTU,
    The concept that eyes make a difference is in peril to the advanced stats folk. I assume Eppler had a large part in the Granderson trade, when the projectionists had Jackson with too much of an upside to trade. Good for Eppler, he’ll get a GM job this winter or next year for sure.

  47. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    JAP-

    I think the Halos have already made their selection. It was not Eppler.

    I believe it was a guy named DiPoto.

    I have no idea who decided what Joba’s role was to be. I imagine that was done by commitee.

  48. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Tom-

    I dislike false dichotomies. Why not use both sources of info. ?

    ;)

  49. tomingeorgia October 30th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    MTU,
    Didn’t say stats don’t matter, just saying that eyes count, too, and you and I know it.

  50. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Tom-

    Yes. I know. My comment was meant to be more generalized.

    Perhaps, for those who reject, or de-empahsize one over the other in an unbalanced way.

    A Scientist does not pronounce an experiment completed w/o ever observing, and likewise no scientist in modern times would not at least
    utilize mathematical info. to organize his results.

    Why not the same for baseball ? Scientific approach. Both sources of info. It’s good, no ?

    :)

  51. tomingeorgia October 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    That’s particularly true with Colon. What numbers can you use? Pena’s eyes sa what they saw.

  52. Against All Odds October 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Yep Eppler is here to stay. I know that makes your skin crawl Jap.

  53. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Tom-

    The one’s from Dr. Purita’s office.

    :)

  54. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    tom – :D

    I’d say we got about 4 inches. But it was enough to make everything good and messy now that it’s melting. It just looks so strange to look outside and see the beautiful fall-colored leaves and snow on the roofs of the houses! I am a real snow aficionada but even I think that October is way to early to be enjoying snow.

    :(

  55. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Hi MTU-Thanks for the articles. I had just finished reading the Hoch article when you posted it.

    If this is accurate as Cot’s has the 2011 payroll at 207M.

    2012 Payroll: The Yankees entered 2011 with the game’s highest payroll at $202.7 million, and managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner has held firm about keeping the number in that arena. The Yankees have approximately $150 million already tied up in guaranteed contracts and options that are likely to be picked up to Cano and Swisher. Their six arbitration-eligible players could add $15 to $20 million.

    So that’s 150+24.25[Cano&Swisher]+17.5[Arb cases]=191.75, so roughtly 11M to spend if payroll were to stay the same. I guess Sabathia’s 23M is already factored in the guaranteed contract. If so. and if he resigns at 25M,that’s another 2M leaving 9M to spend.

    Who will they sign? Will payroll be raised to get Darvish?

    Who would you sign to fill out the starting rotation, another lefty in the bullpen and the bench with around 9-10M to spend?

  56. tomingeorgia October 30th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    MTU,

    Theories have to be proved through observation, but observation leads to theories, too, particularly when the original theory can’t pass the eyeball test.

  57. Red Robin October 30th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    :)

  58. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    The Giants and Javier Lopez have agreed to a two-year, $8.5MM contract, a person with knowledge of the negotiations told The Associated Press. The money will be divided evenly in each year as the left-handed reliever will earn $4.25MM in 2012 and ’13.

    Lopez had a base salary of $2.375MM in 2011 and was two innings short of earning a $25K bonus for reaching 55 innings. In 53 innings of work this year, Lopez registered a 2.72 ERA with 6.8 K/9 and 4.4 BB/9. The 34-year-old was expected to receive plenty of interest on the open market from teams in search of a quality matchup lefty

    A LOOGY signed at the new going rate of 4.25M/year!!

  59. RadioKev October 30th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Definitely don’t sign Aceves. Love him, but that guy is most likely used goods. He was abused last season.

  60. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Tom-

    Or the “smell” test.

    :)

    YT-

    Perhaps payroll will rise a little ? The budget has some “flex” in it doesn’t it ?

    I would like to see another lefty added. Danks might be a longer term solution. Buerhle a shorter one.

    Don’t particularly want Wilson. He should just continue to star as the volleyball in the Hanks movie. Not pitch for the NY Yankees.

    Buerhle would be an attractive solution if the money was right and he could be convinced to come to NY on a 2 yr. deal.

    That would leave room for Banuelos later on, or for a 2013 FA.

    ;)

  61. MTU October 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    New thread —>

  62. Yankee Trader October 30th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    MTU-

    So that’s your theory? :)

    New Post: Short season year in review—>

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