Garcia named Type B free agent
A Yankees source today confirmed that Freddy Garcia will be a Type B free agent this winter. Of course, to receive compensation, the Yankees would have to offer Garcia arbitration and I’m not sure that’s likely.
Garcia is the Yankees only free agent who qualifies as a Type B. CC Sabathia and Rafael Soriano both qualify as Type A free agents, but Soriano isn’t expected to opt out and the Yankees are obviously trying to lockup Sabathia rather than lose him for a couple of draft picks.
If Sabathia does hit the open market, he obviously would be offered arbitration.



Offer Garcia arbitration and then see if anyone signs him to a 2 year+ deal, if not sign him for 1 year.
Other than Soriano what other players have had opt outs that didn’t use them?
Is Derek the only Yankee who still has a player opt?
How much would Garcia cost for one year of arbitration? He proved very consistent this last year. Having him as a #6 starter on a one year contract for around $5 mil would not be the worst thing, especially considering the prospect of a draft pick otherwise.
Is there a maximum raise for arbitration? Freddy earned 1.5MM base with 2-3 million in bonus.
He just turned 35. I think I’d definitely offer him arb.
DaSaint007 October 31st, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Lowe, Jiminez, Carmona, and Masterson is not a bad front 4. Kudo’s to the Indians for seizing an opportunity. And all they had to give up was an A-pitcher. Wow.
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Garcia should be offered arbitration.
Why wouldn’t they offer him arbitration? If he accepts then you have depth….if he doesn’t then you get a pick….seems like a fairly easy decision to me.
Why not offer Garcia arbitration? He could probably get a 2-year offer somewhere, so maybe he declines. And if not, his 1-year contract should be reasonable enough that he can be a trade candidate
Garcia is crafty and he is a good fit for the Yankees. I would offer him arbitration. How much could he get? $8 mil?
LaRussa retires. Does that mean that his long time pitching coach Dave Duncan does the same ?
The Yankees should be perfectly happy with Larry Rothschild.
Can’t see Duncan going to a goofy place like Boston if he stays active.
And yes, offer Freddy Garcia arbitration. He’s good insurance.
The Yanks should also look into Paul Maholm whose option was not picked up by the Pirates. An okay lefty, probably cheap.
DaSaint007 –
1. congrats on your little one’s birthday. enjoy the day, and every day.
2. yeah, that’s not a bad rotation, if you only look at the upside, which there is a lot of. but, there’s also some downsided risk there, also. quite a bit of it. but, if you’re cleveland, i think it’s a risk you take, especially if the braves eat a good chunk of the money for lowe. given their payroll limitations, that’s some good work, there.
108 – i get the impression that the yanks are very happy with rothschild. and, i also get the impression that boston is very different from st. louis, and that duncan may not find the caldron of new england red sox nation to his liking, on a lot of levels. if the red sox can run a respected baseball man like curt young out of town, then i think a thinking man pauses before signing on there, if he has other options. like retirement, maybe.
I’d have no problem with Garcia for another year.
just saying ….if Jeff Samardzija’s gets to be a FA would like to see the Yankees add him
“just saying ….if Jeff Samardzija’s gets to be a FA would like to see the Yankees add him”
Do they need a wide receiver?
Garcia at this time is a #4..#5 SP…would rather have him than Colon, if CC signs would like to see them add a #2 by trade
So according to Marc Carig, CC is not going to accept the Yanks offer and will declare free agency.
I think if we don’t hear what the offer was they’re still at the table. They have an exclusive window till midnight Wednesday.
tomingeorgia October 31st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
The Yanks should also look into Paul Maholm whose option was not picked up by the Pirates. An okay lefty, probably cheap.
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If his shoulder issues are OK according to any physicals, he might be worth a thought by just the fact that he’s lefthanded.
Thanks Joe. Much appreciated. I’m enjoying each and every moment.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....sabat.html
forgot to link the article. Is this old news? Sorry if it is.
is that what he is
i’m 100% on board from moving on from CC and going with a stop gap youth movement season…but that’s just me…
I have a feeling that signing CC is going to be a problem
DaSaint-I know he’s a little young for candy (on second thought-are you ever too young for candy?
) but does the birthday boy have a Halloween costume?
if CC leaves or they move on don’t think Montero is a Yankee very long
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enjoy your little one while you can…before you know it they grow up, leave for college and aren’t around to shovel the driveway anymore
I’d off Garcia arb. He’ll probably get a 2 year deal somewhere & the yanks get a draft pick.
Let’s wait & see what CC does. If he opts out, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rangers offer him a lot. They won’t sigh CJW and I can see them battling hard for CC. Then the yankees will have to make a decision. They may have to go 7, will 25 million a year be enough? Time will tell. But I have hope that it’ll work out somehow.
“if CC leaves or they move on don’t think Montero is a Yankee very long”
That would be the ultimate panic move….and Cashman isn’t a panic type guy.
My office decided it would do 80s day for halloween today……im sitting in a fog of hairspray right now.
joeman October 31st, 2011 at 3:01 pm
if CC leaves or they move on don’t think Montero is a Yankee very long
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Don’t say that
The Yankees can NOT let Montero go. *IF* they don’t get CC, mortgaging the future is not the answer. Bid high for Darvish, get him.
blake-
Dare I ask, what are you dressed up as?
My office decided it would do 80s day for halloween today……im sitting in a fog of hairspray right now.
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I definitely remember the 80′s as being foggy only it wasn’t from hairspray.
“Dare I ask, what are you dressed up as?”
Its a nice day for a ……white wedding….lip curl
blake October 31st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
?Dare I ask, what are you dressed up as??
Its a nice day for a ??white wedding?.lip curl
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Nice
So according to WFAN’s Jon Heyman, CC plans “to look around.” I guess that’s another way of saying he wants to get more teams involved in the bidding process to drive the price up. Do we need CC? Yes. Do we need CC at any price? Yes. Should we re-sign CC at any price? No. Personally, I don’t think CC is in the same class as a pitcher like Doc Halladay but the one thing he does do is eat innings (as well as a lot of Cap’n Crunch), which gives the bullpen a day off and Girardi a lot of options with his pitching. Despite all that, I don’t want to see the Yankees hand out another long-term contract to a player who may well have already reached his peak. We have another six years to rue the foolhardiness of the A-Rod contract. To be honest, I’m kind of disgusted with CC that he’s decided to opt out. Yes, the Yanks were real dumb to include an opt-out clause in his contract. But CC was just as dumb to say he wouldn’t exercise it. Now his decision to opt out can only be based on pure greed.
i would like to know your opinion:
if Aaron Hill – $8MM club option for 2012 and $8MM club option for ’13. This will be declined by diamond backs.
posibilitie$$ Erick Chavez, Eduardo Nuñez and Ramiro Peña for Aaron Hill, defense, ofense, or trade, and fit in the club
Or maybe CC really is not all that happy in NY…
But what I want to know is this: Why would CC be telling anyone what he plans to do at this particular juncture in time, when the deadline hasn’t come yet?
In other words, who’s Heyman’s source? Or is it whole cloth?
JonLaneNYC Off-the-cuff #Yankees offseason predictions: CC will re-sign. So will Garcia. And Oswalt will sign for 2 years tops.
“In other words, who’s Heyman’s source? Or is it whole cloth?”
Probably his agents. or Yankees people, who have been prone to leaking a lot the last couple of years.
Villa Nova- always be skeptical of any “scoop” coming from Heyman
At this point I’m disgusted that someone hears that Jon Heyman said something and actually considers it as truth.
Oswalt will sign with the Yankees? I don’t see that one.
Can’t wait until the mystery team makes an appearance.
DKnobler For those asking, with La Russa retiring, it’s now up to MLB who manages NL team in All-Star Game
I guess I’m going to have to “scroll past” any posts that mention Heyman.
Unless the Yankees blew CC away, why wouldn’t he opt out?
There is not much for him to think about. He either gets a great offer or he doesn’t. Unless the Yankees gave him an ultimatum, which I doubt they would, why wouldn’t CC go out there and see if he can leverage an extra year or $20 million from the Yankees?
Only way CC would have to pause is if the Yankees gave him an ultimatum. If they didn’t, it is a no brainer for him to take the offer in hand and shop it, knowing he has it to fall back on whenever he wants. That’s what happens when a player has a team over a barrel…
@ 108 stitches I wouldn’t mind if Duncan took over the organizational philosophy of developing and handling pitchers. But I’m not sure if his beliefs are inline with the Yankees.
But I’m not sure if his beliefs are inline with the Yankees.
Whatever Dave Duncans “beliefs” actually are, the Yankee’s should get in line.
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Lol good point ID. They should take their cues from Duncan.
The Yankees can squeeze one more year from Freddy Garcia as a 5th starter minus any kitchen knife incidents. He has a long history of pitching quality starts. The solid Yankee bullpen takes care of the rest. He is also a mentor to Ivan Nova and would get the ear of Hector Noesi.
You’ll always be Type A to me, Freddy.
Alright – here’s my number one request for the offseason.
HIRE DAVE DUNCAN.
Not even as the ML pitching coach, but as the organizational pitching coordinator replacing Nardi.
It’s perfect for the Yankees and Duncan. The Yankees have a good pitching coach at the Major League level, Duncan is 66 his wife has been battling illness, the pitching guru role allows him to set up shop in Tampa and stay there.
I would absolutely love for him to work with the kids and set up a strategy to develop Yankee pitchers for years to come.
Against All Odds October 31st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
@ 108 stitches I wouldn’t mind if Duncan took over the organizational philosophy of developing and handling pitchers. But I’m not sure if his beliefs are inline with the Yankees.
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Not so sure Dave Duncan would care for all the bus travel up and down the East Coast after so many years of flying 1st class with LaRussa.
108 stitches October 31st, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Against All Odds October 31st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
@ 108 stitches I wouldn’t mind if Duncan took over the organizational philosophy of developing and handling pitchers. But I’m not sure if his beliefs are inline with the Yankees.
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Not so sure Dave Duncan would care for all the bus travel up and down the East Coast after so many years of flying 1st class with LaRussa.
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Let him set up shop at the Minor League complex in Tampa. No need to travel. Send the kids to him.
If they wanted to hire Duncan into the organization then fine…..but I really like Rothschild and we still don’t know if he’s leaving St. Louis……
blake October 31st, 2011 at 4:22 pm
If they wanted to hire Duncan into the organization then fine…..but I really like Rothschild and we still don’t know if he’s leaving St. Louis……
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Keep them both. Larry at the major league level and Duncan setting up the organizational philosophy to develop the kids.
blake October 31st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Oswalt will sign with the Yankees? I don’t see that one.
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Neither do I.
I think he’s even said he doesn’t see himself pitching in the AL.
Go for Buhrle instead.
@ Chip I like the sound of that. It allows him to be where he needs to be without traveling. The thing is though they would have to show Nardi the door
Against All Odds October 31st, 2011 at 4:27 pm
@ Chip I like the sound of that. It allows him to be where he needs to be without traveling. The thing is though they would have to show Nardi the door
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Only problem I have with showing Nardi the door is that they should have done it two years ago.
its well documented that Buerlhe only wants to pitch for the White Sox or his hometown Cardinals. if neither want him hes suggested retirement.
those suggesting the Yankees moving on from Sabathia is a good idea shouldn’t be drinking at 4:30 in the afternoon on a Monday.
Against All Odds October 31st, 2011 at 4:27 pm
@ Chip I like the sound of that. It allows him to be where he needs to be without traveling. The thing is though they would have to show Nardi the door
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Or they can reassign him within the organization – not like they haven’t done that before with coaches or coordinators.
True Nardi can get another job title within the org. Maybe make him an advisor or something.
Against All Odds October 31st, 2011 at 4:34 pm
True Nardi can get another job title within the org. Maybe make him an advisor or something.
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Or even just pitching coach of Charleston or Staten Island. Or an international pitching scout.
For all of you “hard-nosed this is only a business types” who complain about us “whiners” please explain this:
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....nt-opt-out
Sorry, as a fan while I know it’s a business, nobody has to force me to root for someone who says this, but does something else.
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Big difference in #Mets’ strategy with Reyes under Alderson as opposed to Minaya. Alderson asked Reyes’ side for number that would take him off market. Reyes’ side did not respond. #Mets will now wait to see how market develops rather than push for resolution. #MLB
No ultimatum.
With LaRussa retiring…
Duncan is not a lock to remain.
And Pujols is NOT a lock to reup.
pat – not entirely fair as i doubt Reyes has any real interest in staying with the Mets.
Dave Duncan may be a fit for the Indians. He can keep Shelly in line, and he would have two projects in Derek Lowe and Ubaldo J.