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Quick notes from Cashman’s conference call

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 01, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Obviously I’ll have more later, but here are a few quick notes from this afternoon’s conference call with general manager Brian Cashman.

• On Alex Rodriguez: “I don’t have any health concerns with Alex. His is a timing issue.”

• On A.J. Burnett: “I would not look at him as a reliever. If he’s with us, without a doubt he’s in the rotation.”

• On the Yankees veteran free agents (Garcia, Colon, Chavez, etc): “I’m not opposed to any of those guys coming back, I just can’t tell you what’s going to happen.”

• On Russell Martin: “We thought he was Thurman Munson-like… We could go a number of different routes there.” Essentially, Cashman spoke glowingly about Martin, and said he wouldn’t rule out bring him back on either a one-year deal or a multi-year deal.

• On Jesus Montero: “I think he can be catching for us or he can obviously be DHing for us or a lethal bat off the bench for us. All of the above.”

• On Yu Darvish: “I think like with anything else, you learn over time… I think we’re more prepared today (to evaluate Japanese talent) than we have been in the past.”

• On Francisco Cervelli: “He is full bore, ready to go as a catcher. There are no issues there.”

• Rafael Soriano will not be opting out this winter, though there was never any sort of official announcement from Soriano or his representation.

• Cashman said there’s no one currently on the Major League roster who needs offseason surgery.

 
 

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190 Responses to “Quick notes from Cashman’s conference call”

  1. tampayank November 1st, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    haven’t been on here in a while but glad CC will be staying a Yank :)

  2. blake November 1st, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    I like that Cashman said “if AJ is with us”

    I don’t like that he even mentioned Montero being on the bench.

  3. blake November 1st, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    I think they like Martin so much that Romine isn’t long for the organization..

  4. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    I’ll still be surprised if AJ is traded

  5. Phranchise November 1st, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Well if Martin keeps producing he won’t come cheap so he might eventually price himself out of here if he doesn’t except deals that work for the Yankees. He has some pop in the bat left, defensively and handling a staff though has been massive. He was a great pickup. But then again begs the question what do you do with Romero?

  6. Joe from Long Island November 1st, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    blake – really, i don’t think we should take much of anything away from cash’s comments, other than the fact that he’s still the gm, and that cc re-upped.

    i think he’s speaking to a different audience than fans.

  7. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Romine for Danks

  8. EA November 1st, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    I never never heard Cashman as enthusiastic about a player as he has been about Martin. Even with Mike F during the playoffs, he was raving on and on about Martin while giving his standard cliche’d answers about everyone else.

  9. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Joe,

    I know……just sayin.

  10. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    That might make more sense translated into French Canadian, where Martin is like Munson.

    ——-

    :D

  11. Eroc November 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    AnthonyMcCarron In case you didn’t know, Cashman really, really likes Russell Martin and the job he did last year

  12. Warning Track Power November 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    what is not to like about Martin. there is no other Yankee catcher on the roster or in the minors that is an upgrade on defense. Martin right now is the #1 and maybe a year or two from now Montero can replace him.

  13. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Rather have Avila than Martin to add to the list from the previous thread.

  14. Phranchise November 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Martin controlled a staff full of issues. He was great defensively. Had some life in the bat. And was tough. Everything you would want in a catcher, more of a throw back type of guy. No issues whatsoever, he was everything you could have ever asked for when bringing him here and for that money, what’s not to love?

  15. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    I think Cash just kept all of his options open. All of the them.

    Cervelli being strong and ready to go is important whether they keep him themselves or just want to the get the word “out there.”

    Saying Martin is Munson-like in his leadership abilities is not saying he’s Munson. And there are people who think the way he handled the pitching staff did indeed translate into wins.

    And the full quote about Montero “lethal bat off the bench, all of the above” certainly is a lot more supportive than the shortened quotes floating around.

    It is November. They still have work to do. No one is assigning duties right now, except to the long-term contract guys.

    And, as always, Cashman never says everything there is to say and he never shows his hand.

  16. ac1 November 1st, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Sounded like Cash is still committee to keeping Joba in the pen.
    This would be the perfect chance to take a try at the rotation again.
    If he gets back to where he was in the beginning, he has the potential to be a #2 or #3 easily…
    At this point, would rather see Joba in the rotation and Hughes in the 7th.

  17. upstate kate November 1st, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    so Canada is getting the blame again :evil:

  18. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Carlos Santana too.

  19. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    RAB has their FA predictions……they have Yu to the Yankees ….no not you…..Yu

  20. champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    what the Yanks should do is break this habit of giving up on kids with elite arms and instead invest in the proper coaching to harness it.

    They could maybe then avoid having to go out in the FA market and buying the same type of performance for tens of millions of dollars more.

    To decline his option for a mere 400K when he realistically wasn’t going to make this team out of spring training is just short sighted. We spent a combined 8mil for Feliciano and Marte to play catch down in Tampa all year and an additional 500K as a parting shot for Marte to take his act elsewhere.

    It would in no way hurt the firm to at the very least give an arm like Brackman’s 1 more season at the AAA level to see if he can bring it all together particularly in a relief role where he excelled the last 2 months of last year.

    If he’s not resigned to some sort of minor league deal then he will be scooped up by some other team willing to take the flier on him and give him the necessary instruction to realize his game.

  21. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Miguel Montero

  22. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Oh and of course Ryan Lavaaahnway

  23. Eroc November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    “RAB has their FA predictions……they have Yu to the Yankees ….no not you…..Yu”

    Sherman said again today that the Yankees scouts “really like” Darvish.

  24. Nick in SF November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Only French Canada, not American Canada!

  25. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Get Yu Darvish and a right-handed outfielder (Andruw Jones I guess). Offseason over.

  26. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    I think the Yanks will win the Darvish posting.

  27. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    Carlos Ruiz

  28. RhapsodyInBlue November 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    Truthfully Cash actually said that they thought Russell Martin was Thurman Munson-light.

  29. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    Phranchise-careful. You’ve entered into yet another meeting of the “I Hate Russell Martin Club”

    :?

  30. Phranchise November 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    How about a lefty pitcher for the pen?

  31. Niki November 1st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    The Cervelli info makes me very happy.

    Thanks Chad.

  32. Yankee Trader November 1st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    MLBTR’s estimating Prado will make 4.4M next year in arbitration. He had an poor 2011 season but still is a career .293 hitter.

    If the Braves want to add Swisher would you have any interest in some combination of Swisher for both Prado and lefty Mike Minor?

    Blake-you’re a braves fan.

    Prado can play corner OF, 2nd and 3rd.

  33. Nick in SF November 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Brackman: was it about the roster spot?

  34. pat November 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    • On Jesus Montero: “I think he can be catching for us or he can obviously be DHing for us or a lethal bat off the bench for us. All of the above.”

    translation: If he shows up in February ready to bring it everyday, he’ll play alot. If he doesn’t, he won’t.

    • On Russell Martin: “We thought he was Thurman Munson-like… We could go a number of different routes there.” Essentially, Cashman spoke glowingly about Martin, and said he wouldn’t rule out bring him back on either a one-year deal or a multi-year deal.

    Translation: The development of the kids will determine what we do with Martin going forward but he goes into camp at the top of the depth chart.

  35. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    How about a lefty pitcher for the pen?

    ******************

    The White Whale?

  36. Phranchise November 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Erin, apparently, which is actually shocking because although I love Posada for everything he did here, he was just awful calling a game, blocking balls and average at best throwing guys out. So you would figure the upgrade from last year was even more noticeable. And he also could hit some so wasn’t the automatic Molina outs. Guy comes out and says he hates the Sox.

  37. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    How about a lefty pitcher for the pen?

    I don’t think it’s necessary. Our righties can get lefties out and LH relief pitchers are overpriced and injury prone. Boone logan is enough

  38. spidanyc November 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    When does the posting and results take place for Darvish?

  39. Triple Short of a Cycle November 1st, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    So Montero still needs to prove himself as a hitter? Like I said before I would be very surprised if he is still with the team come spring training

  40. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    pat -

    I agree with your translations.

  41. champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    The Yanks should be very careful of not over-valuing nor become over enamored of the job that Martin did last year.

    He was very good at some aspects of defensive catching( blocking balls, framing pitches, working with the staff) and very average at others (throwing out runners) and other than a hot 1st 5 weeks was brutal with the bat.

    From May 1st on and particulary in the postseason he was a terrible terrible hitter. period.

    I know Joe G loves him because he’s in his mold but really anything more than 2yrs is way too much to be commited to a player so limited.

    As a mentor to Montero and a bridge to Sanchez he’s a perfect piece. In a perfect world Jesus catches 40 games or so next season, Romine rakes @ AAA and becomes a bigger trade piece and J.R. Murphy and Sanchez finish at AA mashing.

  42. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Montero is full-time DH next season, catches ~50 games. Cervelli sticks on the roster as a backup in case of injury.

  43. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    “If the Braves want to add Swisher would you have any interest in some combination of Swisher for both Prado and lefty Mike Minor?,

    Heck yea…..don’t think the braves would do that though.

  44. LockDown November 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Don’t need a lefty out of the pen when they have righties who can get both lefties & righties out. Unless of course you’re looking for someone to fill the DL slot for 2012. :P

    Yankees needs:

    1) Darvish

    2) RF who can hit righties (May need to Trade from the stockpile of pitching)

    3) See if Chavez can come back, If not maybe give Laird/Vazquez a shot

  45. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    If they are going to prioritize defense at catcher they need to sign Yadi next winter.

  46. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    “The White Whale?”

    Where is Rich in NJ?

  47. Triple Short of a Cycle November 1st, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Montero is full-time DH next season, catches ~50 games.

    ————————————————————

    Not according to Cash

  48. pat November 1st, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    “So Montero still needs to prove himself as a hitter?”

    If he shows up in February 20 lbs over what he was in October, you rewarding him with a full time ML job?

    I’m guessing Cashman sent Montero a public reminder today to work hard everyday.

  49. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    “If they are going to prioritize defense at catcher they need to sign Yadi next winter.”

    Yes….and they could as he will be a FA.

  50. Yankee Trader November 1st, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    The entire posting process:

    When a player under contract with a Nippon Professional Baseball team wishes to play in Major League Baseball, he must notify his current team’s management and request that they make him available for posting during the next posting period (November 1 – March 1). The NPB team can reject this request, and the player will not be posted. However, if the team consents, the player is presented to the MLB Commissioner. The Commissioner then notifies all MLB teams of the posted player and holds a four-day-long silent auction during which interested MLB teams submit sealed bids in U.S. dollars to the Commissioner’s Office. After the allotted four days have passed, the Commissioner closes the bidding process and notifies the posted player’s NPB team of the highest bid amount but not who the bidding team is. The NPB team then has four days to either accept or reject the non-negotiable bid amount.

    If the bid is rejected, the NPB team retains rights to the player. If it is accepted, the successful MLB team is granted the exclusive rights to negotiate with the player for 30 days. If the player and the MLB team agree on contract terms before the 30-day period has expired, the NPB team receives the bid amount as a transfer fee within five business days. The player is then free to play for his new MLB team in the coming season. The transfer fee is not included when calculating an MLB team’s total payroll, which is subject to a luxury tax when it exceeds $155 million.[ now 178 million]

    If the MLB team cannot come to a contract agreement with the posted player, then no fee is paid and the rights to the player revert to his NPB team. A player can request to be posted again in subsequent years, and the process is repeated with no advantage to the club that had won the bidding the previous year

  51. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    This Conrad Murray stuff is incredible….

  52. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Carlos Santana will be playing 1b more than catching next year – but I did consider him.

    Totally forgot Yadier Molina

    I don’t see much difference between Avila and Martin.

    In the end – I think this is how it will work out with the four catchers:

    Martin – 2 year deal at around 3 or 4 mil per.

    Montero – primary DH

    Cervelli – either traded this offseason or the ML back up

    Romine – AAA starter ready to jump to the majors if Martin is hurt

  53. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    If he shows up in February 20 lbs over what he was in October, you rewarding him with a full time ML job?

    ——-

    Just send him to the Fat Farm with Hughes.

  54. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    Does it ever happen that a player wants to be posted, and it is rejected so it never gets beyond that point?

  55. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    If they are going to prioritize defense at catcher they need to sign Yadi next winter.

    —————–

    Yadi will be quite expensive, even at 30. My guess is that part of what makes Martin attractive to the Yankees is that he not only gives them the solid defense and the leadership but also that he doesn’t cost a lot of money.

  56. Phranchise November 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Don’t need a lefty out of the pen? Logan was awful for a chunk of the year against lefties. It also means we are one injury away from zero lefties. So while I am not saying pay a ton of money, you need to find one for depth. What are you going to do if the Sox bring back Ortiz and we have big games against them? Ortiz, A Gone, Ellsbury, Crawford are all key guys and all lefties.

  57. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Chip -

    I can see that catcher outline.

  58. Triple Short of a Cycle November 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Just seems that Montero has been treated differently then any other young player they have ever had

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 1st, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    The voice in the wilderness says -

    I told you Montero would still be with the Yankees

    It is my good fortune to be batting 1000 so far5. :) (other predictions included)

    I still say AJ will be with the Yanks, therefore in the starting rotation.

    My next prediction is that Garcia is back with the Yanks.

    (I’d really love to see Bartolo given a chance too, but not so sure about that)

    As you was!

  60. RhapsodyInBlue November 1st, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Seems to me If Cash thought that Montero was going to be the full time DH next season he would also have said they thought he was Ruth-like.

  61. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    Even reading Cashman’s comments above I still think the Yankees might make a play for Darvish.

    I think he’s just a different situation than Igawa and Dice – and again – it’s only money and the Yankees have more of that than most small countries.

  62. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Not according to Cash

    Ahhh I think you need to read more carefully what he said.

    “I think he can be catching for us or he can obviously be DHing for us or a lethal bat off the bench for us. All of the above.”

    Basically he said that Montero could do anything next year. Including the idea I set forward which would be for him to catch 50 games, DH 100 games.

  63. Yankee Trader November 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    My predictions for FA signings -subject to change. Saw the RAB predictions.

    Pujols-Cardinals
    Fielder-Nationals
    Reyes-Giants
    Ramirez-Angels-finally get a 3rd baseman
    CJ Wilson-Tigers-get a lefty
    Beltran-Giants
    Darvish-if posted-hopefully Yankees win over Rangers
    Papelbon-who cares. No clue
    Ortiz-Orioles

  64. G. Love November 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Really wish Cashman didn’t say Cervelli was 100%. You know Girardi just put Montero behind Martin, Cervelli, Romine, Sal Fasano and Englebert from the Bad News Bears on the catching depth chart.

  65. blake November 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    I think the Yanks will go after Darvish as he can bad had without giving up anything but money.

  66. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    If he shows up in February 20 lbs over what he was in October, you rewarding him with a full time ML job?

    ??-

    Just send him to the Fat Farm with Hughes.

    *******************

    :lol:

  67. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Roster 2012 (my opinion obviously):

    Jeter SS
    Granderson CF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Cano 2B
    Montero DH
    Swisher RF
    Martin C
    Gardner LF

    Jones – bench
    Cervelli – bench
    Nunez – bench
    Dickerson – bench

    Sabathia
    Darvish
    Nova
    Hughes
    Burnett

    Rivera
    Robertson
    Soriano
    Logan
    Wade (i think we still have control of him right?)
    Chamberlain (unsure on his health but he will have a spot in the bullpen when he’s back)
    Noesi

  68. Triple Short of a Cycle November 1st, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Then why add the lethal bat off the bench. Obviously he isn’t going to play every day but when I hear a guy off the bench I hear platoon and not everyday player

  69. Against All Odds November 1st, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    # ac1 November 1st, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Sounded like Cash is still committee to keeping Joba in the pen.
    This would be the perfect chance to take a try at the rotation again.
    If he gets back to where he was in the beginning, he has the potential to be a #2 or #3 easily…
    At this point, would rather see Joba in the rotation and Hughes in the 7th.

    ————————————————-

    So would I but they feel Hughes has a better chance at being a starter. I guess the issue with Joba is physical. There is nothing else that comes to mind as to why he won’t get a shot.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 1st, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    It could also be that Cashman remains conservative and does nothing. There’s a possibility that in watching the Detroit series he too lent some credence to the rain out affecting CC’s performance, the rain-in doing a number of Jeter and Cano’s AB, and the performance of Gerry Davis resonating in his mind. In other words, he might have considered the lack of clutch hitting unfortunate but doesn’t see that as the be all and end all, especially if Montero is part of next year’s team, which is appears he will be.

    Just something to think about.

  71. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    I also unequivocally see Hughes in the starting rotation, at least to begin the season (and hopefully to remain there…)

  72. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    Not according to Cash

    Ahhh I think you need to read more carefully what he said.

    “I think he can be catching for us or he can obviously be DHing for us or a lethal bat off the bench for us. All of the above.”

    Basically he said that Montero could do anything next year. Including the idea I set forward which would be for him to catch 50 games, DH 100 games.

    ————-

    and of course what goes unsaid is trade bait.

  73. trisha - true pinstriped blue November 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Over and out.

  74. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    I don’t see much difference between Avila and Martin.

    ——

    Avila can hit

  75. LockDown November 1st, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Yankee Trader November 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    My predictions for FA signings -subject to change. Saw the RAB predictions.

    .
    .
    .
    Darvish-if posted-hopefully Yankees win over Rangers
    Papelbon-who cares. No clue

    —————————

    +1

    :D

  76. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Patrick – replace Dickerson with Chavez or Wilson Betemit and I’m with you.

  77. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    I don’t see much difference between Avila and Martin.

    ——

    Avila can hit

    ——–

    He was a good hitter last year, a bad hitter the year before – let’s see what he does next year.

  78. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    FakePeteGammons #Redsox should sign Andrew Brackman immediately so I can start writing stories about how #Redsox fixed him & turned him into top prospect!

  79. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Patrick –

    Also I think they’ll have Feliciano back to open the season (barring more of the lefty reliever curse)

  80. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    “and of course what goes unsaid is trade bait.”

    It’s a possibility but I think the Yankees are of the opinion that Montero is a generational type of hitter. Obviously if a team blows Cash away with an offer he’d give up Montero but I don’t see that happening. Don’t forget, he was only ever willing to give up Montero if he was getting a top 5 starting pitcher in return.

    “Patrick – replace Dickerson with Chavez or Wilson Betemit and I’m with you.”

    Yeah ok thats fine. It’s the last spot on the bench so I don’t really care. Betemit I’d pass on but I’d be glad to see Chavez back.

  81. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Also I think they’ll have Feliciano back to open the season (barring more of the lefty reliever curse)

    He got rotator cuff surgery in September. That’s a year+ recovery time, there’s no way he pitches in 2012.

  82. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    On those days he’s not playing, Montero can be a lethal bat off the bench.

    That’s not untrue.

    There may be some tough pitchers that he doesn’t start a game or two against, you know?

  83. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Montero is not the type of hitter that has to sit against tough righties. He should play 150+ games if he stays healthy (assuming he’s not the starting catcher). If he doesn’t, the Yankees are making a huge mistake.

  84. pat November 1st, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Cashman on WFAN on Montero… “we think he can catch, we know he can DH and he can also play off the bench.”

  85. 108 stitches November 1st, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Cashman’s key word with Burnett is “if”. Cashman never tips his hand and will discuss with certain teams the dealing of his No. 5 starter. He realizes that with a deal for a LH and the possible emergence of Noesi leaves no room for a pitcher that stands a good chance of imploding anytime after the 4th inning.

  86. Yankee Trader November 1st, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    Does it ever happen that a player wants to be posted, and it is rejected so it never gets beyond that point?
    ————————————————-
    Villa-
    Sorry it took a while to look over this Wikipedia article on the posting system. I believe it has happened, but I can’t remember who. Interestingly after Alfonso was declared a FA, the posting system came into play.

    Attached full article when you have time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....em#Process

  87. Yankee Trader November 1st, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    oops. that’s Alfonso Soriano

  88. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Patrick -

    In general, I agree with you. But I also think that there are other bench players that Girardi will use on occasion at DH rather than Montero.

    I said a tough pitcher or two. And I’m just offering up a scenario.

    Plus, as Girardi is fond of saying, Montero is only 21.

    If Montero is on the team in April, and he is doing great, he is not going to sit. But he will not play every game.

  89. upstate kate November 1st, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    too much splitting hairs here
    I go w/ what Patrick is saying
    DH/BUC

  90. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    str8edgeracer C.J. Wilson by AndrewMarchand
    Just want to remind everyone that negotiations happen in private, between teams

  91. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Thanks Yankee Trader.

    I never knew Soriano played in Japan. Or, if I knew, I sure as heck forgot!!

    I started browsing the Wiki article. I’ll read it later.

  92. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    @pcaldera: Brackman made nearly $11M since being a NYY 1st rd pick. Remembered best for when a vet pitcher nailed his sneakers to a wall in spng trning

    @keithlaw: Brackman’s contract forced Yanks to release him if they didn’t pick up any option. Might be the most player-friendly deal in draft history.

    @jimcallisBA: Worst draft deal ever. Brackman has collected more from his than Price has so far. @bryanhoch: #Yankees did not pick up Brackman’s option.

  93. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Sorry-the last part of that tweet got cut off:

    no journalists/bloggers/writers get votes

    AndrewMarchand That last tweet is from C.J. Wilson. I think is trying to guarantee the Yankees aren’t going to be interested.

  94. blake November 1st, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    That’s what you get for drafting players from NC State

  95. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    AndrewMarchand That last tweet is from C.J. Wilson. I think is trying to guarantee the Yankees aren’t going to be interested.

    I don’t really get it. What is he talking about? Negotiations for what?

  96. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    LGY November 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    @pcaldera: Brackman made nearly $11M since being a NYY 1st rd pick. Remembered best for when a vet pitcher nailed his sneakers to a wall in spng trning

    @keithlaw: Brackman’s contract forced Yanks to release him if they didn’t pick up any option. Might be the most player-friendly deal in draft history.

    @jimcallisBA: Worst draft deal ever. Brackman has collected more from his than Price has so far. @bryanhoch: #Yankees did not pick up Brackman’s option.

    —————-

    As I said, last year at this time he was untouchable – one of the Killer B’s. Such is the fickle fate of prospects.

  97. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    KayShowESPN Joining us NOW to get the Hot Stove fires sparked @Joelsherman1 -ESPN NY 1050 & http://ESPNNY.com

  98. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Erin

    Is str8edgeracer CJ Wilson’s twitter name?

  99. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Per Cashman with Francesca.

    Hughes is going to API this winter and Cash expects him to bounce back.

    He showed up a little out of shape this year and was sent to the Fat Camp.

  100. blake November 1st, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    That’s good news on Hughes…..

  101. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    He showed up a little out of shape this year and was sent to the Fat Camp.

    Haha poor Hughes. Send Joba’s fat ass too

  102. upstate kate November 1st, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    I guess Betsy was right ;)

  103. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Villa Nova- apparently. LOL I don’t follow him-Marchand retweeted it.

  104. LockDown November 1st, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Joba isn’t fat… He’s big boned! :D

    I wuv me sum Joba!!!!

  105. RhapsodyInBlue November 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    I don’t want to see any man boobs in camp next spring.

  106. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Is Fat Camp the actual name of a facility?

    I’d want to avoid having to go there like the plague. It’s a joke on you forever.

  107. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Long winded answer about Manny and Dellin basically just saying we are focused on development with those two.

    Noesi, Phelps, and Warren are well ahead of those two at the front end of 2012. DJ Mitchell not mentioned.

  108. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    blake November 1st, 2011 at 4:06 pm
    That’s good news on Hughes…..

    ————

    This is quite obviously make or break for Phil

  109. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Erin -

    Thanks.

    It was a little difficult to follow where he was going with that.

  110. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Glad to hear Hughes is going to API

    but thanks to LGY, I’ll forever think of it as fat camp. ;)

  111. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    We’ll have a lot of interesting conversations because we have a lot of interesting pieces that will be of interest to large and small market teams….how interesting.

  112. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Joba: Expect him in the summer. He’s a reliever.

    :(

  113. Nick in SF November 1st, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Hughes should’ve gone to Snake Alley. A shot of snake blood might toughen him up some. :neutral:

  114. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Joba: Expect him in the summer. He’s a reliever.

    Might be a nice “mid-season pickup” for us.

  115. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    I thought it was called fat farm but Cash called it “the fat camp” :D

  116. jacksquat November 1st, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    It may be a while before Yu posts.

    http://www.japanball.com/sched.....season.htm

    Interesting way they do the postseason there.

  117. Chip November 1st, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    LGY November 1st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    Joba: Expect him in the summer. He’s a reliever.

    —————

    Joba a starter
    Montero the primary catcher
    signing a DH

    you just keep setting yourself up for disappointment

  118. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Last winter “we had a few trades that fell apart because of failed physicals”

    Interesting.

  119. Against All Odds November 1st, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    He showed up a little out of shape this year and was sent to the Fat Camp.

    Haha poor Hughes. Send Joba’s fat ass too

    —————

    Joba has been losing weight since his rehab began

  120. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Wait-Cashman called it Fat Camp? That’s too funny.

  121. yankee21 November 1st, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    As usual Cashman has very little to say publicly. What matters is what he does.

    Lousy job by NY with Brackman. First round pick that was a complete bust. Clearly NY was incapable of working with this guy who at one time had one hell of an arm. A true head scratcher to pay a guy a 10 mil signing bonus, guarentee him a spot on the 40 man then pay for TJ surgury… Great low risk plan.

    When he was pitching for NY a couple games in Sept did he once even exceed 92 or 93?

    If Cashman really thinks there is no problem with the team’s offense then he is an idiot and I can’t wait till his contract expires…..3 years right? I’m glad he is in love with Martin that makes at least two people, he and Girardi.

  122. LockDown November 1st, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    jacksquat November 1st, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    It may be a while before Yu posts.

    http://www.japanball.com/sched…..season.htm

    Interesting way they do the postseason there.
    ————————–

    How well is his team doing?

    If his team doesn’t move forward, can he then post before the end of the post season?

  123. blake November 1st, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    It’s always hard to know his much to blame the organization and how much to blame the player when a guy busts……

  124. yankee21 November 1st, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    blake absolutely, but the odds were really stacked against NY in winning that bet with Brackman. It takes two to tango as they say but bottom line could not NY have done a little better with a 10 mil bet?

  125. jacksquat November 1st, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Actually, just looked and the Nippon Ham Fighters are out of the postseason. The Fighters lost his start despite Yu allowing only 1 run in 7 innings, 4 hits, 7 K’s, 0 walks, 101 pitches, left with a 2-1 lead.

    So he should be able to post now, I think.

  126. Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Joba has been losing weight since his rehab began

    Ahh yes just like he lost weight before last season

  127. Eroc November 1st, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Cash also mentioned that Noesi is going to compete for a spot, he is in the Dominican now catching up on the innings he missed. Said they are stretching him out now with the idea of him competing for a starting spot.

  128. blake November 1st, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Cashman on mlbradio now. Sounds like one reason they wanted so badly to get the CC deal done was because they were afraid that talks could get chippy like they did with Jeter by the wrong soundbite coming out or whatever.

  129. champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Trip

    Cash is obviously not going to declare that Jesus will be our starting C or everyday DH and hit 5th in our lineup on Nov. 2nd before he’s even begun to work on the 2012 roster.

    I’m sure plan A is for Jesus to be a primary DH/buC with the idea of him getting 500+ ABs to help out a very LH leaning lineup and inject some much needed batspeed into this team.

    Plan B would be using Montero as a trade chip should a truly elite ace pitcher be made available which I don’t see happening and really hope not.

  130. Gary November 1st, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Cashman said pitching is still a focus.

    “I don’t anticipate a bat being a need at all,” he said.
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    I think you would find pretty much total agreement with the first quote. The second one I think is pretty debatable. Maybe it’s just one of those things you throw out to distract what is the real intent.

  131. Against All Odds November 1st, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Patrick November 1st, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Joba has been losing weight since his rehab began

    Ahh yes just like he lost weight before last season

    ————-

    He did lose weight. The most over blown story in camp was how much weight he gained but yet when pictures of came out he looked slimmer than usual.

  132. Gary November 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Plan B would be using Montero as a trade chip should a truly elite ace pitcher be made available which I don’t see happening and really hope not.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    He used the operative word “Conservative”. I think letting one of your top prospects go would be pretty much of an agressive move. Jesus did some great things in the few games he played and the Yanks saw good things. Right now they see him as the future as it’s only up from here, doubtful he goes anywhere under any scenario

  133. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Some of the idiots need to stay away from sharp knives. Cashman wasn’t saying that Martin was the second coming of Munson. He was comparing the ingame leadership. I loved Munson, but people have romanticized view of Munson. After his 2nd year when he had one error and few passed balls, he was a below average defensive catcher. His throwing was brutal and the passed balls were always an issue. He was a great game caller and he made no bones about who ran that game. What he could do was hit.

    As far as what Cashman said about Montero was he was going to catch, DH and on the days that he’s not playing, he will be there to pinch hit. Nobody in the organization has said that Montero can’t catch, other than the assistant vice president of in charge of anonymous quotes.

    I swear that some of you take the quotes from these things and then rearrange the letters to say what you want it to say.

    People keep saying that they don’t want Burneet because he stinks and then say trade him. If he stinks as bad as you say, why would anybody trade for him.

    Same thing with Swisher and Teixeira. They stink, so trade them. Why? Nobody wants players that stink. The same idiots that whine about his batting averages are the same idiots that insist that batting averages are over rated and useless.

  134. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Erin, he did call it Fat Camp, which was just a different set of exercises and programs to burn off some of the weight. before the advent of multi-year contracts and big money. 75% of the players came in overweight and burned it off and nobody said a word.

  135. Gary November 1st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Same thing with Swisher and Teixeira. They stink, so trade them. Why? Nobody wants players that stink.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    I could see Swisher swinging from his heals every swing and trying to launch balls into McCovey Cove. Wish the Giants wanted him.

  136. sab November 1st, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Nobody wants players that stink.

    *************************

    Alex Rios, Vernon Wells, Austin Kearns, Scott Procter, Derek Lowe, Shelley Duncan, Nick Punto and about 200 other players say hi….

  137. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    GB- yeah, I can only imagine the reaction if the entire team showed up out of shape in February. ;)

  138. Irreverent Discourse November 1st, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    The same idiots that whine about his batting averages are the same idiots that insist that batting averages are over rated and useless.

    This is lies.

  139. Nick in SF November 1st, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Cashman then added, “We’re sending AJ to hair camp. Nobody wants a pitcher with stinky hair.”

  140. blake November 1st, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    “People keep saying that they don’t want Burneet because he stinks and then say trade him. If he stinks as bad as you say, why would anybody trade for him.”

    Same reason someone traded for Derek Lowe…….”stink” is a relative term…..AJ stinks too much to be in the Yankee rotation……but somebody else might think he can help then or that they can fix him.

  141. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Erin,

    They used to fine players if they weren’t down to certain weights during different stages of the ST season. Used to be $25 dollars a pound or some silly thing. Never knew where all of these team directed player fines went to. Maybe a did party with chicken and beer for everyone or the manager and GM shared the money.

  142. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Maybe ***they had a***party

  143. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    As long as AJ doesn’t go back to the nightmare that was the bleach blonde look, his hair is fine. ;)

  144. Erin November 1st, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    GB- :lol:

  145. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Irreverent Discourse November 1st, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    The same idiots that whine about his batting averages are the same idiots that insist that batting averages are over rated and useless.

    ***This is lies.****

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    No they “isn’t” lies

  146. champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Cash is hamstrung as far as the O is concerned because everyone is locked into long term $.

    The only place to attempt to upgrade is in the OF corners where Gardy provides to much value at his salary and still flashes an above average to elite skill set as a 27yr old player so should be kept and ordered to put in a couple of offseason months with the guru K Long to improve his hitting mechanics and balance to better drive the ball into the gaps.

    I think the Yanks should upgrade Swish in RF by trading him and signing Beltran.

    If they really wanted to get creative they could either trade for or sign Grady Sizemore as well depending on what Cleveland decides to do.

    Girardi would have then the ability to rotate Beltran and Grady into a rotation with Grandy and Gardy and have a sick OF rotation for relatively cheap $. It may halp both Beltran and Grady from a health standpoint as well getting 400-450 ABs next year instead of 600.

    If Beltran is signed for 2yrs + an option and Grady a 1yr deal, then ’13 your starting OF could be Grady LF/ Grandy CF and Beltran RF with Gardy the 4th OF’er or a trade piece with Slade, Mason, Ravel Santana, Eladio Moronta, The Almonte bros and Melky Mesa at the upper levels of the minors getting ready to make the jump up in ’14-15.

    Grady and Beltran being added to the mix with Swish being traded would be thinking out of the box a bit but represent potentially huge upgrades talent and production wise for the ’12 roster as well as the potential ’13/’14 teams.

    Other than the corners the Yanks are locked into Jeter, ARod and Tex and have to hope that these guys bounce back to norms, stay healthy and or both.

  147. Jerkface November 1st, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    His throwing was brutal and the passed balls were always an issue.

    For a guy whose throwing was ‘brutal’ he sure threw out 40+% of runners a lot. Last 3 years, 40, 45, 46%

    Martin wishes he could do that.

  148. blake November 1st, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    I both think batting average is important…and that Tex needs to do better

  149. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    I just about pissed my pants when somebody on here said that Arencibia was better than Martin. In what world. He’s a brutal defensive catcher that hit about .220 with a tom of strikeouts.

  150. blake November 1st, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    That was me and I would rather have Arencebia than Martin…..23 homers as a rookie isn’t that bad……it was his first year

  151. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    You can have Arencibia, then.

  152. blake November 1st, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    Arencebia had a .986 OPS in AAA last year…..give him a little time.

  153. RadioKev November 1st, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Grab bag of comments:

    Joe from Long Island November 1st, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    i think he’s speaking to a different audience than fans.
    ——–

    I agree, I read it that way too. Talking to players, agents, and other teams.

  154. blake November 1st, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    I like Martin for next year…..he does a nice job defensively and he’s solid back there……I don’t think he’s a difference maker type player though…..he’s not giving the Yankees an edge over the team they are playing in most cases

  155. Jerkface November 1st, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Martin and Arencebia had similar OPS except 1 is younger with room for improvement, the other is coming off 3 weak seasons 2 of which he had to deal with major injuries. I don’t think its unfair to prefer the younger guy on the up swing than the older guy on the down swing.

    I’d take Montero over Martin as well and he has like 1 game caught in the majors.

  156. RadioKev November 1st, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Martin was quite good last season, despite his bad bat in the playoffs. Our pitching staff greatly exceeded expectations, and it’s not unreasonable to believe he had a hand in it.

    That said, I’m not sure in endorsing Martin is condeming Romine. We’ll see. In either case, Montero should be the back up catcher, and given a legitimate shot to be the starting catcher too.

  157. LockDown November 1st, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Francesa saying that swisher is a mistake pitcher & is an add-on player (meaning he adds runs as an exclamation point, basically not clutch)…. yet yells at people who call to say that swisher should be replaced since he’s not clutch in the post.

  158. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    I just about pissed my pants

    ——-

    So that’s what woke you up from your nap?

  159. Pat M. November 1st, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    GB….Maybe Bill James has published a book on the art of stealing bases…..I was taught like most players was that you stole on the pitchers…..Tat extra 2 staps ( the crossover especially ) was key regardless who was behind the plate……..In fact, Cox made us all read the Muray Wills book on base stealing…..

  160. LockDown November 1st, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Gardy – Grandy – Grady :P

  161. Jerkface November 1st, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I was taught like most players was that you stole on the pitchers

    Tell that to the catchers that consistently put up above average CS%. If its so much on the pitchers then who cares about Russel Martin? Put Montero back there so we can get a .900 OPS @ Catcher and relive the Posada glory days.

    Weak argument, Pat M.

  162. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    This is what Cashman said about the offense. Seems that a few people ignored the last 7 words of the last sentence.

    “BloggingBombers Mark Feinsand
    Cash: “I don’t anticipate a bat being a need at all. Offense is not a problem with this club despite what happened in the Detroit series.”

  163. Bret The Hitman November 1st, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    • On Russell Martin: “We thought he was Thurman Munson-like… We could go a number of different routes there.” Essentially, Cashman spoke glowingly about Martin, and said he wouldn’t rule out bring him back on either a one-year deal or a multi-year deal.

    **************

    I hope it’s a multiyear deal, cheap.

  164. RadioKev November 1st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Put Montero back there so we can get a .900 OPS @ Catcher and relive the Posada glory days.
    —————

    As long as he’s not awful, there’s really no reason not to start him.

  165. blake November 1st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    The problem is that many folks here were worried about the Detroit series because of the good right handed pitching that they had…..it was a weakness for them all season and one that cost them in October…….

  166. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Pat M. November 1st, 2011 at 5:25 pm
    GB….Maybe Bill James has published a book on the art of stealing bases…..I was taught like most players was that you stole on the pitchers…..Tat extra 2 staps ( the crossover especially ) was key regardless who was behind the plate……..In fact, Cox made us all read the Muray Wills book on base stealing…..

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Other than Brock and Bobby Bonds during that time, base stealing wasn’t that big of a weapon and pitchers held runners well. That is a lost art, espectially with the Yanks.

    As I said, I loved Munson, but Willie Randolph and Gene Michael saved Munson a lot of errors when he had to start throwing side-arm and almost underhand because of the shoulder injuries.

  167. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Lockdown -

    Oh, my. That would just be waaaaay too confusing (Gardy, Grandy, Grady). No. No. Just for my sanity’s sake. LOL

    Joe from Long Island -

    If you are here, I just want to say I certainly appreciate your posts.

  168. MoRings42 November 1st, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    lol Thurman Munson-like?

    I wouldn’t go that far.

  169. Pat M. November 1st, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Face…..here’s MY WEAK ARGUMENT….In the past 20 years I have never seen a pitcher hold runners better than Andy Pettite, yet ( and I don’t know the numbers ) people could steal on him at least 60 % of the time regardless who was catching…….Where you a good base stealer ??? If so, what was your mind set and approach before game time ????? The great Johnny Bench tossed out about 45 % of the guys maybe….But then again, Bamberger and Sparky took great time working with their pitchers on holding the runners…….

  170. RadioKev November 1st, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    blake November 1st, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    The problem is that many folks here were worried about the Detroit series because of the good right handed pitching that they had…..it was a weakness for them all season and one that cost them in October…….
    ——–

    That’s true, but they easily could have won the Verlander game and game 5. They just didn’t.

  171. Villa Nova-Ya November 1st, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    But it may not be a weakness next season. It wasn’t the season before.

    The season before it was pitcher’s they’d never seen. yet last season, they were able to defeat unknowns.

    It’s baseball.

  172. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Earlier in his career, Mussina was as good at holding runners as any right hander I’ve seen, but, as the years went on, he almost gave up on holding runners close. I think he had about 5 years straight that nobody stole a base on him…..or very few. 130 games in a row sounds close. Nobody was worse than Clemens and even Rivera’s not that great, Maddox was bad, too. Koufax and Ryan were terrible. Power pitchers seem to be the worst at holding runners.

  173. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    LaCava turned down the Orioles GM job to stay in Toronto as assistant GM. It appears that anybody with a future as a gm has no desire to have to work under Showalter, who has the need to run everything.

  174. champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Now that Beltran has fired Boras hopefully the Yanks revisit bringing him in on a 2yr deal and trading Swish.

    I would definitely add Grady to this team as well now that all it would take is $ and he’s amenable to doing a short term incentive laden deal. It’s definite upside deal that could add potentially high end talent to you roster. No brainer to me and rather than paying a guy like Chavez a couple a mil to ride your bench give Laird that job and some ml instruction.

    The Yanks at this point should be thinking the same way about AJ that the Braves did with Lowe. The $ is a sunk cost and the roster spot has more value to the team trade him to whomever with a big fat check and spend his $ on Yu.

    CC
    Yu
    Nova
    Hughes
    Bartolo

    with Warren/Noesi/Phelps and the Killa B’s percolating down in AAA putting on the finishing touches is crazy depth.

    I’d really like to see both Kontos and DJ Mitchell on this team in the ‘pen in the “Aceves” role of 6th starter/long man 6th inning guy.

    I prefer Bartolo to Freddy as I think with a year under his belt and some incentive to get into better shape he offers more upside to the team. If he can give you 30 starts like his first 15 or so were last year then your ‘ro should be able to handle whatever adjustments a Yu might have to make and any regression that you may see from Nova although I’ve got a feeling that Nova may be even better next season than this past season barring any lingering injury to the forearm.

  175. yankee21 November 1st, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    NY should absolutely shop AJ. If ATL can move the epitome in mediocrity in Lowe and eat some salary in the process, what stops NY? You flat out can not have a guy serving up an era north of 5 for two consecutive years on a contending team,, especially with the RH arms NY is cultivating.

  176. champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Really Cash’s offseason should be very simple to me.

    Sign Beltran and Grady now.

    Trade AJ.

    Bring back Bartolo and send him to fat camp with Phil.

    Win the bidding for Yu and sign him.

    Then move on to your arb cases.

    The bullpen is pretty much set and the 1 or 2 holes can/should be filled out from within. Same with the bench.

    With these moves you’ve improved your team your OF/SP/BP are all set and now you can focus as an organization on health and offseason workout performance.

    Maybe take a flier and trade Swish to the Gints for Johnathan Sanchez and see if you can get something out of him in terms of increased control.

    Then

  177. Jerkface November 1st, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    n the past 20 years I have never seen a pitcher hold runners better than Andy Pettite, yet ( and I don’t know the numbers ) people could steal on him at least 60 % of the time regardless who was catching

    This is obfuscating the argument, because part of what Pettitte’s holding runners did is stopped ATTEMPTS from even being taken. So not only does Pettitte stop runners from stealing successfully, but he also stops them from ATTEMPTING to steal a base. They only attempted in 5% of their opportunities. Players like Ellsbury and Gardner and Crawford attempt in 25%+ of their opportunities. He also had a hilariously good pickoff move which isn’t counted in his basestealing numbers. If you consider that every attempted steal not taken is a win for the team, Pettitte was doing a lot better than 60%.

    So you have a pitcher that is limiting opponents attempts to steal, combined with a great pickoff, and then you have the catcher as the third line of defense. Thats really good and way better than league average.

  178. GreenBeret7 November 1st, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    NYY isn’t going to pay upwards of $20 mil to have Burnett pitch for somebody else and get nothing useful back.

  179. LGY November 1st, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    NYY isn’t going to pay upwards of $20 mil to have Burnett pitch for somebody else and get nothing useful back.

    ——-

    Why not?

  180. RadioKev November 1st, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Did I just read a suggestion to trade AJ Burnett and then trade Nick Swisher for Jonathan Sanchez? What?

  181. blake November 1st, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    If the Yankees trade AJ +20 million dollars to some team then they save 13 million and by my understanding all 33 million as it relates to the luxury tax. Today was the first time I can ever remember Cashman even slightly opening the door that they may look to deal him…..good sign.

    Champ,

    I agree with you except for that I prefer Garcia to Bartolo…..and I think it’ll be difficult to get Sizemore to accept a bench role.

  182. jacksquat November 1st, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Posted this earlier but had two links in it so it got stuck in “awaiting moderation” (I know, rookie mistake).

    LockDown November 1st, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    How well is his team doing?

    If his team doesn’t move forward, can he then post before the end of the post season?

    See previous post, his team is out of postseason.

    I think he could have posted after the regular season ended, but I got the impression that he did not want to even announce he would post until his team was done with the postseason. Kind of like some MLB players don’t want to discuss contracts during the season. I suppose it’s possible there is some sort of respect thing in Japan where he would not want to announce while the postseason was still being played out, but Matsuzaka posted on Nov 2 in 2006.

    “On October 25, 2006, Scott Boras was announced as Matsuzaka’s agent to represent him in any contract dealings in the Major Leagues. On November 2, Matsuzaka was officially granted permission by the Lions to pursue a career in Major League Baseball via the posting system.

    On November 14, the Boston Red Sox won the bidding rights to Matsuzaka with a bid of $51,111,111.11, outbidding the Texas Rangers, New York Mets, and New York Yankees.[11][12][13] The enormous figure — two[14][15] to three[16] times the Lions’ payroll — astounded both Japanese and American baseball executives.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisuke_Matsuzaka

  183. blake November 1st, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    I tend to think the Yankees got most of what Bartolo had left last year as I think league adjustment played a big role in his struggles down the stretch in addition to the velocity dip.

  184. tomingeorgia November 1st, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    blake,
    Colon to the Red Sox will come back to haunt us.

  185. blake November 1st, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Tom,

    Eh….I don’t think so…..but I could be wrong.

  186. Jerkface November 1st, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    Colon with just a fastball isn’t going to haunt the Yankees, who kill fastballs. Now if he had a change up that was worth anything…

  187. Jerkface November 1st, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    On the pitching front I’d do:

    - Offer arb to Garcia, if he doesnt get 2+ years from a team sign him for 1 year
    - See if Colon will come back in the same capacity, bullpen and backup starter
    - Try to explore a way to dump AJ
    - Try to see if Danks could be had for a reasonable amount
    - Bid 40+ on Darvish and make it happen
    - Re-sign Brackman to a minor league deal
    - See what the surplus AAA arms can bring back

    Go into next season with CC, Darvish/Danks, Nova, Hughes, Noesi/Burnett – Noesi/Colon, Warren, etc

    Plan on having Betances and Banuelos get some spot starts

  188. tomingeorgia November 1st, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Colon’s two-seamer, which he seemed to lose after the hamstring, would make Teix and Swish look foolish if he can find it again.

  189. champ809 November 1st, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Blake

    I hear you I just prefer Bartolo’s stuff to Freddy’s and think his wearing down had more to do with being out of shape for a full season and needs to build up his stamina.

    As far as Grady I wouldn’t offer him a bench role but more of a utility OF role with a chance to displace Gardy as the starting LF on a championship caliber club.

    In the scenario that I set forth if everybody stays healthy and plays up to potential that Gardy becomes the 4th of’er based on merit/ability but could still see 300-400 ABs with Grady/Grandy and Beltran getting about 120-130 games in the field to keep them healthy and potentially maximize their performance.

  190. Dill Pickler November 1st, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Sometimes I yearn for the old days when Cashman didn’t say anything.

    Martin is like Munson?

    Please. Cashman forgets that offense is a part of the game, too.

    Munson hit .292 for his career, and hit below .280 just twice in his whole career. The most he ever struck out was 70 times in a season. In 1976, he struck out 38 times in 665 plate appearances! Martin hit .237 with 81 whiffs in 417 at bats. And let’s not forget that Munson’s first five seasons he played in the old Yankee Stadium, before they renovated and moved the fences in.


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