Nova finishes fourth in Rookie of the Year voting
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 14, 2011 
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After a 16-win season that pushed him into the No. 2 spot in the Yankees postseason rotation, Ivan Nova has finished fourth in the American League Rookie of the Year voting. Jeremy Hellickson of the Tampa Bay Rays won the award with 17 of 28 votes.
Nova received one first-place vote, five second-place votes and 10 third-place votes. With a large field of candidates, Nova was mentioned on more than half of the ballots.
First basemen Mark Trumbo and Eric Hosmer finished second and third. Nova finished ahead of Michael Pineda, an early favorite for the award.
Craig Kimbrel won in the National League. He was a unanimous selection.
Full results can be found at BBWAA.com.
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Great season Ivan!
Nova’s ROY in my book (too bad that doesn’t amount to much)
Sucks that Kemp seems to be staying in LA.
We’ll have to consider 2013 free agents:
BJ Upton
Melky Cabrera
Shane Victorino
Add Ethier and Hamiltoin to that list.
Left fielders
Josh Hamilton (32)
Eric Hinske (35)
Carlos Lee (37)
Juan Rivera (34) – $4MM club option for 2013 with a $500K buyout— i think he already signed
Luke Scott (35)
Delmon Young (27)
Center fielders
Michael Bourn (30)
Marlon Byrd (35)
Melky Cabrera (28)
Curtis Granderson (32) – $13MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Matt Kemp (28)—– done
Angel Pagan (31)
B.J. Upton (28)
Shane Victorino (32)
Right fielders
Matt Diaz (35)
Andre Ethier (31)
Torii Hunter (37)
Carlos Quentin (30)
Ryan Spilborghs (33)
Ichiro Suzuki (39)
Nick Swisher (32)
2010 – hughes 18 game winner
2011- nova 18 game winner
2012- noesi – 15+ game winner?
yankees are churning out pitching prospects
OldHossRadbourn I remember when I was passed over for Rookie of the Year. History did not record who won. This is because I shot him.
Factoring youth and low cost, I like Upton and Cabrera better than the other options.
There’s a really good chance that Swisher would be resigned on a 1 or 2 year deal in 2013. That class is weak.
I hope not. Upton has far more upside and Cabrera could be a .300 hitter from now on…we’ll have to see how he performs in SF this season.
Does a Kemp deal raise the profile of Cespedes?
CESPEDES
the kemp deal just raised the price for kershaw, he’s not signing for less than kemp. maybe less years, but not less moeny
I’d take Ethier. Good all round hitter, defender, good lefty swing for the stadium.
What this shows though is that the Yankees need to start developing their own young talent because good talent on the right side of 30 on the FA market is getting scarcer and scarcer.
Kemp is a huge bat that lots of posters banked on signing. Do the Yankees take a more serious look at Fielder, Reyes or Pujols now that Kemp is off the board?
If A$$face finishes 55 games in 2015 or a total of 100 games between 2014 and 2015, the $13 million becomes guaranteed.
I wonder why that was necessary to include, Amaro doesn’t remember which side of the room he’s on sometimes… I think.
Swisher free agent next year.
Grandy the following year. Will be 32
Yankees OF prospects deeper in the minors.
Looks like they have some decisions to make this year and next. Be that thru trade or internally. Doesn’t sound like Montero in the OF is a good idea at this point. But his bat looms larger as he may be making up for some offense with Gardner and potentially a weaker hitting corner of out there too.
SI_JonHeyman
jurrjens understandably popular on trade market. a star and only 25. you know yankees, redsox, rangers, others are in
Just say no to Jurrjens.
Like Jair……wouldn’t give a ton for him.
NBA season looks done.
Very disappointed in you Matt Kemp…..however the Dodgers did step up and were willing to spend unknown owner’s money.
bret raises an interesting point. perhaps the yankees viewed kemp like they say cc and lee, great players that were destined to be free agents. with kemp off of the board, do they reevaluate the bats that are on the market? maybe they take a flier and sign ortiz to a one year deal, worth a lot?
i don’t see pujols or fielder in pinstripes, just too much of a commitment needed. but if ortiz only gets a one year deal from the sox and the yankees offer a few million more?
maybe they take a flier and sign ortiz to a one year deal, worth a lot?
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Ugh. I certainly hope not
Dump Mark and sign Pujols or Fielder
g. Do the Yankees take a more serious look at Fielder, Reyes or Pujols now that Kemp is off the board?”
They still don’t fit so I don’t think so.
How are you dumping Tex with a full no trade and that contract?
I do think this development may make them up their interest in Cespedes just because they can absorb the risk….
How are you dumping Tex with a full no trade and that contract?
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Wishful thinking. Obviously not going to happen but I just want him off the team so bad
Dump Mark and sign Pujols or Fielder
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Reasons this won’t happen are explained in full at Igottafullnotradeclause.com
Ken_Rosenthal 3 mins Kemp is 27. Prince is 27. Kemp got 8 yrs on non-free agent deal. Prince? Different body types, positions. But we’ll see. #Brewers #mlb
I don’t want Tex off the team…..I just want him to play better.
How does Kemp signing a deal have ANYTHING to do with Pujols, Fielder, or Reyes?
None of those guys are outfielders.
They already have a first baseman, shortstop, and third baseman and there’s no chance they’ll pay $150M+ for a DH.
FakePeteGammons #Redsox eschewing closer for weather machine. When leading after 5, they’ll make it rain until game is called. Savvy. This is Peter Gammons.
Having a full no-trade clause doesn’t always stop a team from dealing a player.
Players with a NTC get traded every year.
I don?t want Tex off the team?..I just want him to play better.
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Well we all do but 2 straight poor years does not bode well for the future, especially since he is moving out of his peak years
Players with a NTC get traded every year.
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True, but players with an NTC and 5 years/$115M remaining on their contract do not.
“Having a full no-trade clause doesn’t always stop a team from dealing a player.”
Generally it takes the player wanting to leave the team he’s on though and that’s not the case with Teixera
Players with a NTC get traded every year.
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Ok, now find all those guys that had NTC who agreed to be traded from perennial world series contenders
Seems like Nova had a fair showing on the ballots. Yay, Nova.
Kemp signing with the Dodgers is a reason not to drool over players under the control of another team.
Kemp no longer available? No problem. Who’s the next “I want him” guy in the list? Oh, Upton, that’s right. So now it’ll be all about him, until he decides to stay with the D’Backs.
Teams are keeping their stars as well as their young promising players, and players can see that there is a chance to win in places without an NY on it’s cap. NY is a TOUGH place to play and I am certain that there are players who wouldn’t and shouldn’t come to play here. (There certainly are a few over the years that I wish hadn’t come here.)
dogface November 14th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Players with a NTC get traded every year.
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True, but players with an NTC and 5 years/$115M remaining on their contract do not.
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Any trade can happen if two sides (three, if you include the player) want it to happen.
But it doesn’t appear the Yanks are interested in moving him.
Oh, I see it’s a new episode of “Trashing/Trading Teixeira.”
How many DH’s can one team possibly have?
Players that would see some dh in the next 2 years.
Jete
Alex
Teix
Pujols
Fielder
Montero
CC(Just in case everyone is on the dl)
I think I just named off the whole team.
Time to use our farm strenghts to land us an outfielder. Dont have me put out a list of rotating in the next couple years. Time to lose sum to get sum.
catchers
Jerkface November 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Players with a NTC get traded every year.
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Ok, now find all those guys that had NTC who agreed to be traded from perennial world series contenders
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A completely different question altogether. My point was simply that a NTC does not necessarily prohibit a deal from happening.
Signing Cespedes seems like a good risk for a team like the Yankees.
Reyes is not the player Pujols or Fielder is. Pujols and Fielder are “impact” players, whereas Reyes is a very good player and that’s when he manages to get on the field. Any team that signs Reyes long-term is not getting the player a team signing Fielder at better than $20 Mill per is getting, or certainly a team signing Pujols at $30 Mill per is getting. Reyes should not be included in any conversation that includes Pujols and or Fielder.
we need to find another granderson type deal.
the guy i keep zeroing on is mccutchen of the pirates.
we have a stacked system, i think we can make a move for him, since we can also send them gardner in the deal.
Reyes is not the player Pujols or Fielder is. Pujols and Fielder are “impact” players, whereas Reyes is a very good player and that’s when he manages to get on the field.
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pujols + fielder are more “impact” b/c they are middle of the lineup guys. middle of the lineup guys always are more valuable than leadoff guys.
Agreed, Reyes is very overrated and can’t stay healthy. A speed guy with busted hammy’s is not a good investment for any team. He’ll be overpaid no matter where he goes, because there are hardly any decent SS’s in baseball. Odd that the team most interested in signing him has one of the elite SS’s already…
McCtuchen is not a free agent until 2016… why are the Pirates going to trade him?
I didn’t believe Kemp would ever hit the market. Neither will Kershaw so everyone should direct such trade or free agent talk elsewhere. This is a good example one cannot run a team based upon who MAY become a free agent. Same holds true for Hamels.
It would be a mistake to do nothing in hopes next year will be better. Free agency is not like it used to be. I hope the Yankees will use this time to look at the Cubans and Darvish which is about the last place money can really help.
Even a broke team like the Dodgers is keeping it’s big young star but there are some Yankee fans who offer Montero in exchange for nearly every trade target.
Bats like Kemp (and Montero) don’t grow on trees, which is why it’s insane to trade their best young bat away.
Congrats to Nova. There were a lot of good candidates this year of ROY. He is getting a lot of love on various xm shows.
McCtuchen is not a free agent until 2016… why are the Pirates going to trade him?
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they’ll trade him if we give them a good package. we can give them a top prospect pitcher + catcher for him (along with an MLB OF in gardner)…
Isn’t the other OF a lot younger than Cespedes?
Would it be greedy to sign both? Good gambles, imo.
Oh, I see it?s a new episode of ?Trashing/Trading Teixeira.?
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Not new, I’ve been on that train for 2 years now
Congrats to Nova for getting some recognition in a tough rookie class.
Now that we cant get Kemp its time to look at that glass as half empty.
8 year deal for Kemp? What happens if he reverts back to 2010 now that he hit the lotto? Strikeout per game was a bit much for Yankee fans to handle. And last but not least, for the last few years its been Cano for Kemp trade. We lohuders decided to keep our smooth silk second baseman and are proud of it. The man that has Tiawanese glued to their tv set. Kemp cant say that.
Personally, I’m not worried about who will play RF in 2013. I’m much more concerned about what the rotation looks like in 2012.
A completely different question altogether. My point was simply that a NTC does not necessarily prohibit a deal from happening.
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Not really, the NTC is exactly why Tex cannot be traded from the Yankees. Mentioning other players with NTC doesnt matter because they arent on good teams.
IF, and I repeat IF the Yanks were looking for a CF’er, I would zero in on Cameron Maybin of the Padres. That guy is a comer big time. Whenever Kemp is discussed, I always think back to when the Yanks coulda traded Cano straight-up for him. Considering the scarcity of power hitting 2nd basemen, the Yanks made the right move when they hung onto Cano.
djsunyc – McCutchen is the result of their best prospect becoming reality. You want to send them another “maybe” and a worse OF? That’s never going to happen.
We had a dynasty in the 90′s while playing musical chairs in left field. Lets just play that game in right this decade.
Doesn’t this just open up a spot for DeJesus??
An argument can be made that elite offense has surpassed pitching as the most valued commodity in baseball. Teams are locking up their young, productive position players at a much higher rate than pitchers. Combine that with the fact that scoring is down in baseball, making elite offensive players all the more valued in today’s market.
Although trading Montero for Cliff Lee may have made sense two years ago, it no longer makes sense to trade such a young, blue chip offensive talent for a veteran, top-of-his-game pitcher. Yanks really need to keep Montero unless they can package him for a young superstar like Justin Upton.
LGY November 14th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Doesn’t this just open up a spot for DeJesus??
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seriously?? people here are still throwing his name around? dejesus is marginal at best. is it the one good half season he had or the fact that he is from NY?
The really non-elite pitching staff the Tigers threw out there beat supposedly a very elite Yankees offense.
Offense generally can carry you thru a season.
Pitching wins the playoffs.
Carpenter was huge for the Cards.
SoS November 14th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
We had a dynasty in the 90?s while playing musical chairs in left field. Lets just play that game in right this decade.
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good point, but lost in that is that those years we had a stalwart in RF in the opposite corner but now we just had gardner (who had a nice playoff but stunk most of the year)
seriously?? people here are still throwing his name around? dejesus is marginal at best. is it the one good half season he had or the fact that he is from NY?
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You’re gonna tell me we don’t need a CONTACT hitter like DeJesus!?
Couple reasons why Mccuthchen is doable.
1. Pirates are our AAAA affiliate.
2. They love our #6 pitchers
3. SJ44 is in the circle of trust.
4. They are allergic to good players.
5. Are already losing sleep on the big pay day coming up 2016.
6. Need more players in the minors to sing kum ba yah in bus rides.
7. Want to make sure that the Pirates do not take attention away from the Steelers.
8. They love being in the same sentence as the word Yankees.
9. Are closet Yankee fans.
10. Cash has a stealth mask he needs to bring out.
Let me know if I missed anything.
I can’t see trading something we’re deficient in (legitimate hitting prospects) for something that we’re flush in (pitching).
Yes, I’d love to have a rotation of CC, Halladay, Felix, Lee, Hughes (you didn’t think I’d leave him off did you?!).
But it’s not happening.
With Cash and Girardi building knockout bullpens, you don’t HAVE to trade the farm for top pitching at all costs. You can take play the market and make reasonable trade deadline deals.
DeJesus is a nice addition as a 4th OF. Longer term he really ads no value to the Yankees over a starting gig for similar money on another smaller market team.
Yankees can’t carry another non power corner outfielder with Jeter at SS as well.
I like him, but simply doesn’t work unless he is in a rotation which I can’t imagine he wants to do.
Montero is doing signings all over NYS (this weekend in Syracuse).
He will be in the starting line up this year.
Frozen Rope,
An offseason cannot be complete without a Dejesus to the Yankees request. Its the longest streak ever. As long as lohud has been around. You can bet he will retire a Yankee.
CC, Halladay, Felix, Lee, Hughes
mel,
Is this a what doesnt belong here game? I know I know(hand stretched as far up as I can get it with the other holding arm pit)!!
2013
DeJesus-Granderson-Melkmanisinhotlanta
4th OF: Andruw Jones
5th OF/pinch runner: Gardner
Sign Cepedes… stash him in the minors, then trade him for a young, stud OFer. That is how you maximize resources. Don’t look at Cepedas as a player, look at him as an asset. That is something that Ben Cherrington/Jon Daniels/Dombrowski/Friedman/Anthopolous etc. would do. Turn an asset into another asset.
SoS
is the answer “who doesn’t pitch on the east coast” ?
That is the obvious answer to me
Wait. Apparently the Tigers are shopping Delmon Young. We gotta get him.
He’s a contact hitter and clutch.
kate,
Where is Montero in Syracuse? Depending on work, I may go stalk…er..meet him.
bkabak RAB Inbox 2 weeks ago: Trade Swisher ASAP. RAB Inbox today after Kemp rumors: Sign Swisher to a long-term deal ASAP!
LGY-
There are a few older, questionable, previously awesome OF out there (Beltran & Sizemore) to name a couple.
But they’re all going to want a full-time job. Granderson is not going anywhere. Swisher could be traded, but maybe they don’t. That means Gardner would be your 4th OF. Which would be a shame, because he’s proven he’s a full-time player. Not sure that Cashman stalls his development.
I know Sizemore would sign a 1 year deal to prove himself, but hard to do that as an OF. Teams are going to want to know that he can handle the grind of a full-season again.
Some team (cough-Boston) will give him 2 years and will actually use him. Beltran is not a stop-gap player on a 2 years or more contract.
No Kemp in NY???
Can’t lose what you never had
bring me DeJesus!
Sign Cepedes… stash him in the minors, then trade him for a young, stud OFer.
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You take our expensive unproven minor-leaguer and we’ll take your cheaper proven commodity ?
sandusky in laguardia, by himself?!!? the judge served in his charity??!!!? the same judge who ordered 100k bail with no security bracelet. wonders never cease in this coverup. for what?
a godfather ??!!!
According to SI.com’s Jon Heyman, the Mariners are “hoping to be in on” free agent Prince Fielder.
Heyman says the Mariners’ higher-ups are “unsure if there’s enough room in the budget,” but they’ll give it a shot anyway. Fielder, 27, posted a sparkling .981 OPS this year with 38 home runs and 120 RBI in 692 plate appearances. He’s going to be one of the most highly coveted bats on the open market.
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I would give Seattle about a .000000000069% chance of signing Prince.
Baseball Mogul
At the Carousel Mall on Sat, roughly between 11 and 1. I have a flier at home w/ the specifics. I think it is thru Cooperstown Connection.
Some team (cough-Boston) will give *Beltran* 2 years….
New Post: Phelps named Fall League Pitcher of the Week
Since Jeter and A Rod have no range (amirite?) we need to go with a 4 OF alignment.
LF: Centipedes
Short LF: Delmon Young
CF: Melkman (Granderson strikes out too much to be part of our new high contact alignment. Trade him for #1 starter IPK)
RF: DeJesus.
kate,
Ding Ding Ding Ding!!! I see im not the only one who played it in elementary school. lol.
Fellas. We are talking about trading for an outfielder or more offense. Ask yourself this question. Were the last 2 W.S. champions offense better than ours? Not even close. Time
to get a rotation with 3 #1′s. 4 is bad luck. See Philli.
kate,
Thanks. Working til 2 though. :/
Since Jeter and A Rod have no range (amirite?) we need to go with a 4 OF alignment.
LF: Centipedes
Short LF: Delmon Young
CF: Melkman (Granderson strikes out too much to be part of our new high contact alignment. Trade him for #1 starter IPK)
RF: DeJesus.
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LGY,
NO! NO! NO!! Why trade for the short position if you can just get it by spending money. And better yet, you can get the best short ever to play the game. Cat like reflexes, catching everyone by surprise. Knows just the right time to get involved. Yes im sure you now would like to back track your comment and just insert SIGN MANNY!! Best short/cuttoff guy ever!!
Baseball Mogul
I could be wrong, it might be 1-3, I will check when I get home