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Notes from Day 2: Still nothing brewing for the Yankees

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Nov 16, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian Cashman met with two more agents today — Dan Lozano and Adam Katz — and played phone tag with another (that’s how he heard about Eric Chavez wanting to play again). Basically, in Milwaukee, agents have been texting Cashman, and he’s been meeting with anyone he has time to see.

“That process is so early,” Cashman said. “It’s not necessarily, hey, we want this, can we do this today? I think it’s more everybody feeling out everybody else. I’ve had a hard time getting dollar figures from agents, to be honest.”

He’s also met with some other GMs to talk trades, but those talks haven’t gone anywhere.

“I guess it’s a seller’s market,” Cashman said. “But unfortunately I haven’t been buying much lately. At some point, I’ll get back in the game, but it’s been easy to stand down since last winter. I hate to say it. It’s not like I’m opposed to making trades, but it’s been easier not to make trades based on the asking prices so far. It’s not like I don’t want to — I’d like to do something — but I’m not going to do something at these current costs.”

This is pretty much to be expected in mid-November.

“I’ve made trade proposals that have been turned down, rather quickly,” Cashman said. “I’ve turned down trade proposals, rather quickly. It’s all part of the process.”

A few other notes from today…

• Cashman said he has no meetings scheduled beyond tomorrow in Milwaukee. There are plenty of reports that the Yankees have talked about meeting with C.J. Wilson in New York at some point, but Cashman wouldn’t comment other than to say there are no further meetings planned. He also wouldn’t say whether it was the Yankees or Wilson’s agent that requested a follow-up meeting. “I don’t feel the need to clarify anything, on my end,” Cashman said.

• With Eric Chavez on the market, Cashman stuck to his usual line about finding bench players for next season. “I know that Andruw Jones and Chavez played a role and an important role for us,” he said. “It was nice to have those choices. It all depends on how the rest of the payroll shakes out, the financial commitment I have, the remaining ability I have. Factor in their cost with what else I’m trying to address. So we’ll see.”

• Drayton McClane confirmed today that the Astros are moving to the American League West. Nothing is official, but it seems pretty clear that baseball is going to have two even leagues and four wild card teams.

• Cashman is leaving Milwaukee early tomorrow afternoon at the earliest. He might try to catch an earlier flight because he has two commitments in New York tomorrow night.

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75 Responses to “Notes from Day 2: Still nothing brewing for the Yankees”

  1. ron November 16th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    “I’ve made trade proposals that have been turned down, rather quickly,” Cashman said. “I’ve turned down trade proposals, rather quickly. It’s all part of the process.”

  2. Nick in SF November 16th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    ““I think it was very productive,” said Garber, referring to today’s meeting. “I think Brian is in a situation where he doesn’t want what happened to Cliff Lee to happen again.”

    Yankee fans did their part by not spitting on C.J. Wilson’s non-wife, non-gf, and non-dog during the Yanks’ non-appearance in the ALCS.

  3. pat November 16th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    There’s that word again….

  4. GreenBeret7 November 16th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Tar November 16th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
    RI Attorney

    Are you from another planet? Have you ever watched a sporting event? What a ridiculous post. .

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Tar,

    Did you expect a logical post from an ambulance chasing Red Sox fan?

  5. m November 16th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    The Astros are moving 2013? If it’s 2012, schedules would have to be redone.

    I still think that Garber asked for the meeting. He must have misspoke. Or Cashman is hanging him out to dry. :P

  6. GreenBeret7 November 16th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Is anybody having trouble staying logged in to this site? Where it keeps asking you to log in and when you do, the page tells you that you can’t change login names?

  7. pat November 16th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Merry Christmas and a Tacky New Year?

    PhilHughes65
    Yes we’re “that” house http://pic.twitter.com/ASvaUZt6

  8. pat November 16th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    “Is anybody having trouble staying logged in to this site?”

    Yes. I type a comment, hit the submit button and it tells me I need to be logged in to comment.

    I was logged in or I wouldn’t have the comment box available to type in but there’s no arguing with computers so I just log in again. :sad:

  9. Bo knows November 16th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Now that tree must be the Spirit of Christmas Tack. Oy vey, such a tree – and I’m not even Jewish.

  10. Bo knows November 16th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Probably comes with a “Pine Spritzer”

  11. GreenBeret7 November 16th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Thanks, pat.

    This has been going on for a couple of weeks. Not just needing to log back in, but, my personal data page comes up and tells me that I can’t change names. at first, I thought that maybe I had mistyped the name….but, me?….misspelling my name?….impossible.

  12. LGY November 16th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Even if the Yankees were offered a 72 hour window to negotiate an extension with a player like Hamels they wouldn’t use it.

  13. Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Cash has made it pretty clear that he has no interest in trade-and-sign transactions, and rightly so, in my opinion.

  14. LGY November 16th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011.....gators.xml

    Very detailed article on the Sandusky investigation. A lot of suspicious and interesting stuff in there.

  15. LGY November 16th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    @OzzieGuillen: people in south beach take care of they bodies so I may want to be shirtless hahaah no man boobs for me

    Easy for Ozzie to take shots at Phil Hughes on twitter. Let’s see him do it in Tampa :mad:

  16. pat November 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    MikeSilvermanBB
    Whatever John Henry & Hal Steinbrenner said just sent Randy Levine into hysterical laughter.

  17. mick November 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    good job jerry, admitting you took showers with boys…nothing wrong with that?

  18. mick November 16th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    were these people naive enough to think they could cover this up forever?

  19. LGY November 16th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    The Other Penn State Cover-Up: Death Threats Against Black Students

    http://loop21.com/content/othe.....k-students

    “We asked him to talk to the players because we were concerned about their safety,” says Richards, “and he said in that meeting that he would never do anything to put the university in a bad light. So we said, ‘Then you are choosing the university over students lives.’”

    Wolf was chilled by Paterno’s response also. She says Paterno told them, “I’m only a football coach.”

  20. mick November 16th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Whatever John Henry & Hal Steinbrenner said just sent Randy Levine into hysterical laughter.
    =======================================
    maybe something about Hank being tied up and gagged in the basement…

  21. Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    LGY November 16th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011…..gators.xml

    Very detailed article on the Sandusky investigation. A lot of suspicious and interesting stuff in there.
    ==============

    Wow. What a chilling and appalling account. He’s a monster. I still can’t believe that the SOB was caught red-handed raping a boy, and remained free for nine years after the fact.

  22. blake November 16th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    LGY,

    Interesting read….unbelieveable. I wonder if he and his attorney realize how bad he sounded in that interview the other night. I mean it took him what seemed like at least 10 seconds to deny he was a pedophile…..oh yea he just “horsed around” (the defenses key phrase).

    By the way….some states….including mine can carry up to a year in prison for failing to report child abuse to the authorities.

  23. Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    LGY November 16th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    The Other Penn State Cover-Up: Death Threats Against Black Students

    http://loop21.com/content/othe…..k-students

    “We asked him to talk to the players because we were concerned about their safety,” says Richards, “and he said in that meeting that he would never do anything to put the university in a bad light. So we said, ‘Then you are choosing the university over students lives.’”

    Wolf was chilled by Paterno’s response also. She says Paterno told them, “I’m only a football coach.”
    ===================

    This seems to be a fundamentally unfair charge to me. I suspect that death threats are fairly routine at the university–it’s a very big place. What could Paterno have done about it? Yes, it seems that he could have and should have stopped Sandusky, but this other situation is entirely beyond his control.

  24. Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    blake November 16th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    LGY,

    Interesting read….unbelieveable. I wonder if he and his attorney realize how bad he sounded in that interview the other night. I mean it took him what seemed like at least 10 seconds to deny he was a pedophile…..oh yea he just “horsed around” (the defenses key phrase).

    By the way….some states….including mine can carry up to a year in prison for failing to report child abuse to the authorities.
    ==============================

    I can’t believe that his lawyer let him do that interview. Does he really think that he can talk his way out of it at this point? The ship has sailed on that one…

  25. LGY November 16th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Blake

    A few people actually timed him. Apparently it took him 16 seconds to say “no”

  26. Against All Odds November 16th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    # LGY November 16th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    The Other Penn State Cover-Up: Death Threats Against Black Students

    http://loop21.com/content/othe…..k-students

    “We asked him to talk to the players because we were concerned about their safety,” says Richards, “and he said in that meeting that he would never do anything to put the university in a bad light. So we said, ‘Then you are choosing the university over students lives.’”

    Wolf was chilled by Paterno’s response also. She says Paterno told them, “I’m only a football coach.”
    ———————————-

    So what Matt Paknis said yesterday on Mike’d up was true.

  27. jacksquat November 16th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    I’m surprised that the law supposedly only required McQueary to report the child rape he witnessed to a superior at the school. Huh?! If I witness that, f the superior, I’m calling the cops from my cell as soon as I exit the locker room. In fact, I may not even exit the locker room, I might right there and then just “ask” Sandusky what in the hell he is doing raping a young boy.

    Why is McQueary seemingly getting a free pass in this, at least morally speaking?

  28. LGY November 16th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    So what Matt Paknis said yesterday on Mike’d up was true.

    ——-

    What did he say?

  29. Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    jacksquat November 16th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    I’m surprised that the law supposedly only required McQueary to report the child rape he witnessed to a superior at the school. Huh?! If I witness that, f the superior, I’m calling the cops from my cell as soon as I exit the locker room. In fact, I may not even exit the locker room, I might right there and then just “ask” Sandusky what in the hell he is doing raping a young boy.

    Why is McQueary seemingly getting a free pass in this, at least morally speaking?
    ================

    It seems that people feel sorry for him. I kind of feel sorry for him too, but he screwed up badly–there’s no sugar-coating that as far as I’m concerned. And frankly, I feel more sorry for the boys that were abused.

  30. Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    jacksquat November 16th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    I’m surprised that the law supposedly only required McQueary to report the child rape he witnessed to a superior at the school. Huh?! If I witness that, f the superior, I’m calling the cops from my cell as soon as I exit the locker room. In fact, I may not even exit the locker room, I might right there and then just “ask” Sandusky what in the hell he is doing raping a young boy.

    Why is McQueary seemingly getting a free pass in this, at least morally speaking?
    ================

    It seems that people feel sorry for him. I kind of feel sorry for him too, but he screwed up badly–there’s no sugar-coating that as far as I’m concerned. And frankly, I feel more sorry for the boys that were abused.
    =================

    Moreover, I REALLY wonder about McQueary’s dad. Why did he leave it alone? Did he tell his kid to keep his mouth shut, and play along with the coverup? If Mcqueary had been my son, I would have followed up on the situation, and I would have advised him to go to the police to report the crime if PSU was dragging its heels.

  31. LGY November 16th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    McQueary is hard to figure out. I really hope his credibility is not called into question at trial because he seems to be making some contradictory and even false statements the past few days.

    Also it was reported today he played in golf charity event for the Second Mile in 2003. How do you participate in that type of event with Sandusky a year after seeing him rape a young boy in the shower?

  32. Ghostwriter November 16th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Not much chance of that. Besides, Mcqueary’s credibility deserves to be questioned. Something doesn’t sit right about it. Nevertheless, even if McQueary is discredited, it seems like there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence piled up against Sandusky. I don’t think that Sandusky has a chance of getting acquitted.

  33. Against All Odds November 16th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    # LGY November 16th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    So what Matt Paknis said yesterday on Mike’d up was true.

    ——-

    What did he say?

    ————–

    Basically how Paterno was like the Pope and everything was about the image of the program. One time in a meeting they brought up the idea of starting a black QB and Joe Pa said Penn State isn’t ready for a black QB.

    you can listen to it below hopefully the link shows up

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/?p.....cid=CBS.NY

  34. BX33 November 16th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    The person who compared Feinsand to Pete Abe was spot on… watching Feinsand on the replay of this Hot Stove show… all he needs is a beard….

  35. LGY November 17th, 2011 at 12:33 am

    Thanks Odds

  36. Nick in SF November 17th, 2011 at 4:31 am

    If Brian Cashman does pull off some big trade, I would like it to be as beautiful as this Beach Boys song but to make more sense:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ2OKoLpNBM

  37. Mike Ri November 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am

    SI.com’s Jon Heyman reports that C.J. Wilson is looking for a six-year, $120 million contract.
    It doesn’t seem likely that he’ll find it, but that’s not a bad place for his agent to start. Wilson has drawn interest from enough teams that he should be able to land a contract of five years or more, but asking for $20 million annually is probably a reach. The Marlins, Red Sox, Yankees and Angels are said to have serious interest, and the Rangers will also attempt to re-sign the lefty.

    -
    I like CJ.. .but not at that price.

  38. blake November 17th, 2011 at 7:16 am

    SI_JonHeyman 17 Nov Asked theo if he has his manager. Answered, “we don’t have a manager under contract.” just a technicality. #sveum

    The Sox should name Bucket the player/manager.

  39. blake November 17th, 2011 at 7:18 am

    CJ is dreaming on that 6/120…….doesn’t hurt to start there but I can’t see anybody getting near that number

  40. NYYanksFan November 17th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    A-Rod giving duck and cover to everyone else again.

    “If Chavez played instead of A-Rod the results might have been different”. Chavez could have played 1B for Teix, Montero could have played for Martin, Jone for Swisher, Nunez for Jeter and the results might have been different.

    “We need Alex to be Alex”. How about they need everyone to be who they should be?

    Everyone else hides in the shadow of just A-Rod needing to be better and do more.

  41. upstate kate November 17th, 2011 at 7:47 am

    espn this am reported that the Cubs have offered the managerial position to Sveum. They speculated that he is waiting to hear from the red sox first before he decides. If I were Theo or a Cubs fan it would not make me happy to think I was a second choice.

  42. blake November 17th, 2011 at 7:59 am

    On the radio they were talking like he turned down the Sox job for the cubs.

  43. dogface November 17th, 2011 at 8:00 am

    If I were Theo or a Cubs fan it would not make me happy to think I was a second choice

    =========================

    Epstein may have shot himself in the foot a little with talk of a 5 year rebuilding program. That’s great if you’re team president or GM, but managers don’t often survive rebuilding programs(read: losing).

  44. upstate kate November 17th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    hmmmm sounds like a lot of nothing getting air time b/c not much is going on ;)

  45. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Good morning-

    Did Maddux decide he was staying with the Rangers?

    CJ Wilson will not be a Yankee if the offers go 5-6 years.

    Matt Cain and Giants are working on an extension as well as Lincecum.

    No news on Yu Darvish, except that the Orioles will post if he becomes available.

  46. dogface November 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    Did Maddux decide he was staying with the Rangers?

    ======================

    Thought I heard last night that he withdrew his name from consideration for the Cubs job, again citing family matters.

  47. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    If you want another lefty starter, here’s a longshot if the Blue Jays are seeking to dump Brett Cecil. I know he was sent back to the minors after posting 15 wins in 2010. I’ve read that he’s a Yankee fan. His record was 4-11 last year with a 4.73 ERA. Held lefties to a .186 BAA.

    Here’s an interesting tidbit on an injury that ended his 2011 season while at Fenway:

    The 2011 season seems to be the year of weird injuries, as Toronto Blue Jays starting pitcher Brett Cecil(notes) adds his name to the list after a problem with a blender.

    Will this have any affect on his chances at being a part of the team’s 2012 starting rotation?

    About a week after news that San Francisco Giants reliever Jeremy Affeldt(notes) injured himself for the rest of the season due to a food-related stabbing injury, another major league pitcher suffers a fate to one of his hands due to a kitchen utensil. In the latest kitchen mishap to hurt a MLB player, Toronto Blue Jays starting pitcher Brett Cecil had his scheduled start pushed from Friday to Tuesday after cutting his left index finger while cleaning a blender in the visitor’s clubhouse at Fenway Park.

    Was he having a drink with the fried chicken sent over by Lackey, Lester and Beckett? :)

  48. blake November 17th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    “Matt Cain and Giants are working on an extension as well as Lincecum.”

    Link?

  49. upstate kate November 17th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    YT
    wasted away again in Margaritaville?

  50. Mike Ri November 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Blake — Per rotoworld.com

    According to SI.com’s Jon Heyman, the Giants will attempt to lock up Matt Cain this offseason.The San Francisco front office is also efforting a long-term extension with Tim Lincecum. Both pitchers are set to make significant salaries in 2012, so they may prefer to continue going year-to-year. But the comfort provided by a multi-year deal could be attractive. Cain, 26, posted a sparkling 2.88 ERA and 1.08 WHIP in 33 starts this season. He can become a free agent in 2013. Nov 16 – 5:02 PM

  51. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Blake-

    From yesterdays MLBTRs:

    Giants Attempting To Extend Matt Cain
    By Luke Adams [November 16, 2011 at 4:39pm CST]
    While we heard earlier today that the Giants are more focused on a long-term extension for Tim Lincecum than fellow starter Matt Cain, team president Larry Baer says the club is trying to lock up Matt Cain as well, tweets SI.com’s Jon Heyman. Heyman adds that the Giants may prefer deals of approximately four years.

  52. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Blake-

    I see where Mike Ri beat me to the punch on Matt Cain. It seems, that while we fantasize about getting the Cains, Kemps and Hamels, as well as Kershaws of the world, their clubs are going to try and lock them up to extensions.

    Might have to think smaller this year.

  53. blake November 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Mike,

    Yea but wanting to sign them and actively working on an extension are two separate things……I don’t think we have any confirmation yet that either of them is actually willing to negotiate with them. Lincecum is going to take them to the cleaners in arbitration so he may be fine with just letting that process player out.

    Heyman said yesterday that the Giants would prefer 4 year deals……can’t see that cutting it for either guy. Cain would get at least that 6/120 that Wilson wants or more as a FA…..same with Timmy.

  54. Erin November 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    I was a little surprised at how low Girardi ended up being in the manager of the year voting. I knew he wouldn’t win, but I thought he’d end up second or third.

    Plus, now they totally ruined the continuity of Yankees finishing in fourth place. :x

  55. blake November 17th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    The Dodgers stepped up and gave Kemp an extension that was at least in the neighborhood of what he would get as a FA ……and that’s why they signed him.

    If the Giants want to do the same with Cain and Lincecum then they’ll have to step up to the plate with real fair market value offers most likely for both……

  56. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Think Reed Johnson as 4th outfielder. BA .309[.305 vs lefties, .312 vs righties], doesn’t walk much , has some power and plays all OF positions.

    Maybe lefty Tom Gorzelanny, moved from starter to bullpen later in the season by the Nats. 4.03 ERA, overall BAA .258, .157 against lefty batters.

    Cashman waiting to see those that will be non tendered.

  57. MTU November 17th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Fortunately for the Yankees they are a competitive just as they sit.

    They don’t really have to do anything.

    I could see a rotation of :

    CC
    Nova
    Hughes
    Garcia
    AJ
    (Noesi)

    Still think the WS might be our best trading partner. It seems like they want to move someone. Or maybe something with the A’s or Braves.

    I hope they don’t go overboard for Wilson.

  58. Villa Nova-Ya November 17th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Erin -

    That’s exactly how I felt about Girardi. :(

  59. blake November 17th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    MTU,

    How are you? I agree with you……but as you know….Im greedy ;)

  60. blake November 17th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    It’ll always be tough for Girardi to win anything because “they buy championships ” and all that ya know.

  61. MTU November 17th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Blake-

    Thank you for asking.

    I’m fine but I do have an ongoing family issue. That is why the posting
    has been so sporadic. It’s gonna take a while to resolve.

    Yeah. Me too. I’m greedy. Especially when it comes to Pitching.

  62. dogface November 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am

    If the Giants want to do the same with Cain and Lincecum then they’ll have to step up to the plate with real fair market value offers most likely for both

    =========================

    Probably be more about contract length than anything else. Both will be around $15M-$16M this year probably, so going up to $20M isn’t a quantum leap. Question is will they go 5-6 years? They’re out from under Zito after 2013, so maybe that makes it easier for them to do it.

  63. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    MTU-

    Agree that the WS might be the best trading partner for the likes of Danks, Floyd and Quentin, all reported as being available. However Kenny Williams has said he’s gotten lots of calls by “sharks” swimming in the water.

  64. MTU November 17th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    YT-

    It’s very early in the Hot stove season.

    Things will become clearer as time goes on.

    ;)

  65. MTU November 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    At this stage of the OS parties are jockeying for position, putting on the spin, and trying to gain leverage over each other.

  66. Yankee Trader November 17th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    dogface-

    I see where Zito has a huge buyout option for 2014. I’m certain the Giants won’t allow that option to vest.

    12:$19M, 13:$20M, 14:$18M club option ($7M buyout)
    option vests with 200 IP in 2013 or 400 IP in 2012-13 or 600 IP 2011-13
    if 2014 option vests, Zito may opt out & receive $3.5M buyout
    full no-trade clause

  67. MTU November 17th, 2011 at 8:50 am

    And since Cashman really doesn’t HAVE to do anything he is in a strong poisition.

    He can afford to be patient which is good.

    Except for us impatient fans.

    :)

  68. MTU November 17th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    New thread —>

  69. Erin November 17th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    New Post: One last day begins in Milwaukee

    :arrow:

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