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Cashman ready to rappel again, plus notes and links

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 30, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It was exactly one year ago that news broke of Brian Cashman’s decision to rappel down a building as part of Stamford’s Heights & Lights celebration.

Today, it was announced that Cashman will do it again.

As he indicated at the GM Meetings, Cashman will once again rappel down the 22-story Landmark Building for the annual holiday festivity. The main event is Sunday night, Dec. 4, at 5 p.m.

Cashman will also rappel down the building on Friday morning, participating in a special live broadcast with Rick Reichmuth of FOX News Channel, “FOX & Friends.”

Some other notes and links from today…

• At the New York Times, Tyler Kepner looks at the Yankees patience heading into next week’s Winter Meetings. As Kepner points out, the Yankees could be quiet at this year’s meetings after routinely making noise — including the 2009 deal for Curtis Granderson — the past few years.

• Here’s the Associated Press story about Bernie Williams and this year’s Hall of Fame ballot. 

Short-term Yankees lefty Raul Valdes was one of eight minor leaguers signed by the Phillies and given an invitation to big league camp.

• Always a popular topic of discussion around here, David DeJesus has signed with the Cubs to be their everyday right fielder.

• The Angels added a catcher today by trading for Chris Iannetta. To get him, the Angels sent Tyler Chatwood, one of their top young pitchers, to the Rockies.

The first competitive balance lottery will include 13 teams vying for one of six extra draft picks in 2013. Those teams are the Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, A’s, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals.

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107 Responses to “Cashman ready to rappel again, plus notes and links”

  1. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    The Yanks are going to miss both Valdez and Ayala. Nothing was very special except for the results.

  2. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Cashman is going to be rappeling again and some people on here are just repelling. Things haven’t changed much in the past year.

  3. LGY November 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Albert Belle should have won the MVP in 98.

  4. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Valdez only threw 6 innings for the Yankees last year

  5. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    LGY November 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Albert Belle should have won the MVP in 98.
    =====

    You’re right! If anybody was robbed that year, it was Belle. He hadd better numbers than Gonzalez, and didn’t get a single first-place vote. Still, it serves him right for being such a jerk.

  6. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    They’ll still miss him. Are there better? Certainly. Now, Cashman needs to find somebody that can do the job for less than $6 mil a year.

  7. LGY November 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    It’s gonna be tough for Cashman to find a warm body to throw 6 relatively meaningless innings in September.

    Might be his biggest challenge of the offseason.

  8. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Rangers Notes: Fielder, Pujols, Moreland, Levine
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 30 at 9:25pm CST]

    9:25pm: The Rangers have interest in Fielder, but he’s not high on their priority list, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Texas isn’t seriously courting Pujols, either.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    Have thought the Rangers would make a play on Prince for a long time…..Moreland isn’t very good and Prince would give them some leverage against Hamilton after next year if they don’t want to go long term with him.

  9. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    They were only meaningless to idiots. For somebody trying to restart his career, it meant everything and so did the pressure.

  10. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Can’t see losing Valdez as a big deal as he barely even pitched for them……Ayala did a nice job for them but seems to be a classic get rid of them before they revert back to their normal mediocrity type decision…..

  11. LGY November 30th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    I’m sure those appearances were important to Valdes, but that has nothing to do with the Yankees missing him.

  12. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Valdez was with them for about 2 weeks after coming from the Cards and spending time in Trenton and Scranton. He did his job well this year. Of course he can be replaced, but, why unload him until that replcement is found. same with Ayala.

  13. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    I wouldn’t recognize Valdez if I was standing next to him in an elevator. With some notable exceptions, the pecking order in the bullpen should be determined by who has the hot hand. Ayala did a nice job for the Yanks in 2011, but Girardi will have plenty of alternatives to pitch those innings that Ayala and Valdez pitched.

  14. LGY November 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    I hope Jeff Marquez is over the injury that landed him on the 60 Day DL last year.

    If not, his 4 innings and only 1 ER will be missed.

  15. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    “Of course he can be replaced, but, why unload him until that replcement is found. same with Ayala.”

    they just didn’t offer them contracts…..Valdes was only on the team because the rosters were expanded.

  16. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    They didn’t offer Ayala a contract in hopes that the Red Sox would sign him to be Bard’s set up man.

  17. LGY November 30th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Letting Steve Garrison go is another head scratcher.

    He did his job well. 2 batters, 2 outs.

  18. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Ghost, not saying that Valdez and Ayala can’t be replaced, but, at least have them in tow before cutting them loose. Ayala especially, pitched a good amount of innings for what was basically a Roogy. He didn’t get hit until about the last couple of weeks.

  19. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    About the only thing you’re good at is being a punk. Go cozy up with your boyfriend.

  20. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    The Rangers offense would be downright scary with Prince Fielder, but he would fit that team so well. Hope it doesn’t happen.

  21. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    “The Rangers offense would be downright scary with Prince Fielder, but he would fit that team so well. Hope it doesn’t happen.”

    yes…hopefully they continue right on thinking Mitch Moreland is the answer

  22. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    tucker November 30th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    The Rangers offense would be downright scary with Prince Fielder, but he would fit that team so well. Hope it doesn’t happen.
    ========

    I agree. Fielder could be a big difference-maker. He would be an enormous upgrade over Moreland. With Fielder in their lineup, Texas has to be the favorite to win the pennant.

  23. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    If they signed Fielder then they can really play hardball with Hamilton and if they don’t like the money or years he wants then they could let him walk knowing that Prince is in the middle of the lineup.

  24. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Here’s hoping the Cubbies can land Fielder…

  25. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Exactly on Hamilton. He’ll demand a big payday, but he has a lot of miles on that body. It would be snakes, preemptive move from Texas’ standpoint.

    If the Rangers do sign him, Cash better get busy finding a second lefty specialist not named Raul Valdez.

  26. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    I still think that the Yanks need another outfield bat more than anything else. Failing that, a return to form for Tex and the continued development of Granderson and Montero will be needed. Here’s hoping Swisher can hit a little closer to his 2010 levels.

  27. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Smart preemptive move, that is. Of course, an argument could be made that it would be a snake-like move, too.

  28. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    “I still think that the Yanks need another outfield bat more than anything else. ”

    unless something off the radar is brewing on the trade front….then Beltran is the only guy that would be an upgrade on what they have.

  29. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Kevin Towers still owes Cashman a favor :)

  30. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Ghostwriter, that is my feeling, too. They need a young, slugging outfielder more than a starter right now. Expect a bounceback year from Phil Hughes, who could really stabilize the rotation.

    If the Diamondbacks get off to a bad start, I wonder if Kevin Towers will dangle Justin Upton.

  31. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Texas needs pitching more than another bat. They have 4 guys that can play 1st base. They also have a high debt and a lot of arbitration cases headed their way.

  32. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    There is no reason to believe that Rodriguez can’t provide the same numbers in 2012 that he did from 2008-2010.

  33. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    If the Dbacks got off to a bad start then maybe they’d dangle him…..but he’d cost a fortune. He does start making real money though after next year….so I would guess he’ll be available at some point….but it might not be for a couple of years. He makes close to 15 million in 2014 and 2015.

  34. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Beltran could have been a big difference for the Yanks last October. We might have won the WS with Beltran. Of course, the price to get Beltran turned out to be prohibitively high. Still, Cashman didn’t seem the least bit interested…

  35. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Beltran would have probably cost Betances or Banuelos given what the Giants paid for him….Cashman didn’t want to pay that price at the deadline.

  36. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Right now, I have a lot of confidence that ARod will have a rebound year in 2012. I’m more worried about Teix. It has been two bad years in a row for Tex, particularly from the left side of the plate. I wonder what he is doing to fix it….

  37. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Beltran would have probably cost Betances or Banuelos given what the Giants paid for him….Cashman didn’t want to pay that price at the deadline.
    =============================

    So, what is more important: Wining the WS in the here and now, or two young star prospects who could be stars of tomorrow? For me, it’s a very tough call, although I think that Cash made the right choice. The thing that bothers me about Cashman is that he seems to be quite content with Swisher in right field. I just don’t get that at all…

  38. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    “So, what is more important: Wining the WS in the here and now, or two young star prospects who could be stars of tomorrow”

    well in that case to me it’s definitely keeping your 2 best pitching prospects….because Beltran would have been just for 3 months, he’s not THAT big of an upgrade over Swisher, and you’re not guaranteed to win the WS anyway. I think Cashman sees Swisher as the best option right now….if something better comes along that makes sense then maybe he’ll act….

  39. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    I’m out….gnight all

  40. GreenBeret7 November 30th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    With nova out for the rest of the Post Season, NYYs didn’t stand a great chance to advance past the first round anyway.

  41. Eroc November 30th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    AndrewMarchand The reason Darvish or Cespedes may make sense is because cba changes will make intl signings harder in future.

  42. Ghostwriter November 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Beltran would have been a significant upgrade over Swisher. Swisher’s OPS obscures the fact that his batting average is too low to produce very many runs. Beltran’s OPS was nearly 100 points higher and his batting average was nearly 60 points higher than Swisher’s. Ther’s no doubt in my mind that the Yankee offense would have been much more formidable with Beltran. I would have much preferred the Yanks’ chances in the postseason with Beltran than with Swisher.

    It’s academic at this point… and I don’t think that it would have been worth Banuelos and Betances to bring back Beltran,

  43. Jerkface December 1st, 2011 at 1:09 am

    I will take 1998 Bernie over 1998 juan gonzalez any year, because Bernie did it in CF not RF.

  44. GreenBeret7 December 1st, 2011 at 2:15 am

    •Brian Cashman admitted to John Harper of the New York Daily News that he’s often tempted by potential deals, but the Yankees’ GM maintains that he’s far from desperate this offseason. “We’ve got a really good team, so I don’t feel like I have to do something stupid,” Cashman said. “If I’m going to do something this winter, I have to feel good about it. I don’t care how big the name is.”

  45. Pat M. December 1st, 2011 at 2:31 am

    GB….Cashamn wants to swing a trade for a solid young outfielder after he signs a free agaent lefty from Texas….

  46. DONNYBROOK December 1st, 2011 at 3:43 am

    I just do not see Texas getting Fielder. It’s overkill. They already have an excellent offense, and Moreland is adequate anyway. They do need a better defensive RF’er. Cruz is supposedly playing a no doubles defense and somehow the ball gets over his head to tie Game 6? If he was a Yankee and did that he woulda been burned at the stake.

  47. raymagnetic December 1st, 2011 at 6:42 am

    If the Yankees are going to be getting rid of outfielders then it should not be Swisher.

  48. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:22 am

    The Angels being forced to acquire Ianetta shows what a bonehead move losing Napoli was.

    That and a few other things must have coast Reagins his job.

  49. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:25 am

    Swisher seems a lot like Rodney Dangerfield to me.

    He’s playing for another contract this season.

    I was hoping we might snag Kemp.

    :(

  50. blake December 1st, 2011 at 7:30 am

    MTU,

    Id say the entire Wells trade had something to do with it…..that and just a total failure to aquire any offense over the last couple years.

    Trying to think of young outfielders that the Yankees could look to aquire……there aren’t many that would figure to be available and that would also be better than what they currently have. Only ones I’ve even heard mentioned or rumored are Mcutchen and Heyward……..and if they were available they both would cost a whole lot in prospects.

  51. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:32 am

    Pat M. -

    Greetings.

    I’m not a Wilson fan at the likely price and years required.

    Therefore I hope it does not happen.

  52. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:35 am

    Blake-

    We’ll see how Swisher performs in his walk year I guess.

    As you pointed out a certain GM owes Cash.

    Maybe they should go rapelling together.

    I like GGBG but I am not sure he is a long term keeper either.

    That .260 avg. was really marginal IMO.

  53. raymagnetic December 1st, 2011 at 7:36 am

    If you could trade surplus pitching for Heyward or Mccutchen you do it and don’t think twice about it.

    I doubt either the Pirates or Braves want to trade their young outfielders though.

    I would trade plenty of prospects for Upton. Anyone not named Montero would be fair game.

  54. Villa Nova-Ya December 1st, 2011 at 7:37 am

    I’m thinking multi-team trade IF a trade for an OF happens.

  55. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:39 am

    VN-

    Where did you come up with that ?

    The Yankees never do that sort of thing.

    :)

  56. Villa Nova-Ya December 1st, 2011 at 7:40 am

    raymagnetic -

    I think the Pirates are finally trying to really gain some respectability with their fans, so I don’t think McCutchen will be traded. I can never really figure out what the Braves are doing.

    I have to admit that with the rumor that the Yankees were looking into Drabek (who they really do not need), I thought a multi-team trade that eventually netted the Yankees Upton. But again, I don’t really see Arizona trading him, especially after last season’s team success.

    (And I am not a trade speculation person.)

  57. blake December 1st, 2011 at 7:43 am

    You couldn’t trade pitching surplus for those two guys…….it would take some of the best.

    I don’t think Upton will be available with the Dbacks just coming off making the playoffs and with him only making 6 million next year…..if they fall back next year then maybe at some point……he starts making real money in 2013.

  58. Villa Nova-Ya December 1st, 2011 at 7:43 am

    MTU -

    Never, ever!

    ;)

  59. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Blake-

    I agree with your take. JU does not make enough yet to be a burden and the Snakes are competitive right now.

    I want Kennedy back.

    :)

  60. Yankee Trader December 1st, 2011 at 7:48 am

    Good morning-

    Pat M was speculating that the Yankees were in on CJ Wilson and then would package some arms for a young hitting OF’er, making Gardner the 4th OF’er, late inning defensive replacement.

    For CJ Wilson to be a Yankee, he’s going to have to tell his agent to make it happen and be willing to come down from his 100M contract.

  61. blake December 1st, 2011 at 7:50 am

    Personally I also believe the Yanks are a lot more in on Wilson than they are making out……

  62. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:51 am

    Watched MLB network last eve.

    They were trying to decide who thought was the best ballplayer 25 and under from an original list of 25.

    They picked Mike Stanton of the Marlins.

    It could be a pitcher or a position player.

    Who do you think is the best 25 and under player in Baseball right now ?

    I kind of liked Kershaw.

    But we all know it will ultimately be Montero.

    ;)

  63. Yankee Trader December 1st, 2011 at 7:52 am

    Justin Upton to the Yankees-

    Daydreaming already this early in the morning.

    Only news on the Yankees this morning is a short article in the NY Daily News about Hughes getting trim and fit and already throwing to be ready when camp breaks.

  64. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Wilson should stay on that Island with Tom Hanks.

  65. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 7:54 am

    YT-

    Hughes is gonna kick azz and take names.

    ;)

  66. blake December 1st, 2011 at 7:57 am

    “They picked Mike Stanton of the Marlins.”

    Yea I saw that……he’s hot crazy upside but I thought that was crazy.

  67. Yankee Trader December 1st, 2011 at 7:59 am

    MTU-

    Now I had to look up an article to see who’s younger than 25.

    You’ll enjoy this from mlb.com:MLBs best 25- and- unders

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    Upton, Kershaw, Strasburg

  68. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Blake-

    They were seduced by his ceiling.

    They figure him for a 40 hr./yr. guy going forward. El Mucho power.

    Never mind that he strikes out a lot I guess.

    Great fielder. Cannon arm.

    Not sure he’ll hit for avg. or have a high OBP.

    What do you think ? Will the plate discipline and knowledge of the strike zone improve ?

    They seemed to think that he will adjust to what pitchers are attempting to do to him.

    Does he have any obvious holes in his swing ?

    If he does that’s what they’ll exploit.

    That’s the nice thing a bout Jesus. I really don’t think he has many weak spots once he learns not to chase the the low and away stuff.

  69. Yankee Trader December 1st, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Gotta go for a while. Until a little later.

  70. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:04 am

    YT-

    I am still a big Strasburg fan. TJ and all. That guy can be a beast.

  71. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:05 am

    MTU,

    Here is the deal with Wilson…..he has some concerns…..and right now he’s apparently asking for way too much money…..but there are some things to like as well.

    His road ERA has been under 3 for 2 straight years ……he’s had success in the most hitter friendly park in baseball…..he has relatively low mileage on his arm…..etc. id be interested at 5/75 or so…….and even more so if they coukd move AJ.

  72. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:05 am

    And from the little I have seen I reallly, really love Matt Moore.

    What a potential stud.

  73. Gary December 1st, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Morning, looks like some spirited discussion this morning. I read the times article, I guess I didn’t agree. Another of the no pressing needs, patience, stand pat camp. Still think that’s the path to another early exit. Can’t believe the Yanks will be wallflowers at the meetings.

  74. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:07 am

    MTU,

    He’s a specimen ……legit 80 power in the scouting scale. Swing is a little long but he coukd be a .270-.280 guy with 40 homer per season power……he’s a stud but I like Montero’s swing better.

  75. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Blake-

    I understand.

    I just think Wilson is gonna take too many years and too much moolah.

    We’ll see. Fits the Yankees recent MO.

    Why didn’t Texas work harder to re-sign him ???

    He was their ace, right ?

    Holland and Harrison are a lot cheaper but are they his equal ?

    Why let him walk w/o a bigger fight ?

  76. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:09 am

    And I think Upton has more upside than Stanton…..similar power and I think he’s got more potential to be a better overall player. Upton, Kershaw, or Felix souls have been better choices IMO now…….Stanton is a great young player though.

  77. Gary December 1st, 2011 at 8:09 am

    blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:05 am
    MTU,

    Here is the deal with Wilson…..he has some concerns…..and right now he’s apparently asking for way too much money…..but there are some things to like as well.

    His road ERA has been under 3 for 2 straight years ……he’s had success in the most hitter friendly park in baseball…..he has relatively low mileage on his arm…..etc. id be interested at 5/75 or so…….and even more so if they coukd move AJ.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    I never thought he was coming here and still feel the same way. Reading this mornings articles it says he is going to decide next week. I think he either goes elsewhere or stays with the rangers.

  78. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Bold prediction:

    If U-Jim’s arm is healthy he is gonna have a big year for the Indians.

    ;)

  79. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:13 am

    MTU,

    That is a good question ……I think Texas has more payroll limitations than maybe they let on……they have a lot of personel decisions coming down the line on guys like Hamilton, Cruz etc……so perhaps they don’t want that investment now for a guy that isn’t a #1. Or perhaps they are just playing poker like everyone else waiting for the process to drop.

  80. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Can’t wait to see the interaction between Beckett and Bobby V.

    That ought to be a real hoot.

    Is Valentine good at catching chicken bones ?

    :)

  81. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Blake-

    Pitching is precious. You would think they would be all in on Wilson if he’s such a stud.

    That’s not where I would think you would want to scrimp.

  82. dogface December 1st, 2011 at 8:19 am

    Holland and Harrison are a lot cheaper but are they his equal ?

    ===========================

    Think Holland may ultimately be more than his equal. Still a young guy and he looked like he was starting to figure it out the 2nd half of last season.

  83. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Gary
    I doubt they sign him either…..but I also doubt they are totally out on him as some reports have indicated.

    I think maybe if they had a better handle on what Hamels or Cain was going to do then that would help them decide.

  84. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Dog-

    Maybe so. I Like Holland’s stuff.

    Wilson is the proven commodity though even though he costs.

    I just wonder why he does not seem to have been made a PRIORITY.

    I know the Rangers are going to convert Feliz but they have to be very careful with him.

    I do not believe in Ogando long term either. That’s just a hunch.

    Wilson solidifies that rotation.

    Perhaps they were turned off by his PS performance ?

  85. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:26 am

    I like Holland ……I wish he were a FA.

  86. Gary December 1st, 2011 at 8:30 am

    blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:22 am
    Gary
    I doubt they sign him either…..but I also doubt they are totally out on him as some reports have indicated.

    I think maybe if they had a better handle on what Hamels or Cain was going to do then that would help them decide.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Nothing much new that I could find on Darvish, I read that teams continue to go to the Dominican to see Cespades and that the Yanks still have high interest in both the players.

  87. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Blake-

    Just curious.

    Who do you like Price or Moore ?

    I love me some Matt Moore.

    Never seen a lefty throw such easy high nineties gas.

    Seems effortless on his part.

  88. dogface December 1st, 2011 at 8:32 am

    I just wonder why he does not seem to have been made a PRIORITY

    =======================

    Probably because they know what everyone else knows. Just because he was their #1 starter doesn’t make him a true #1 starter. No reason for them to take any action til they see how his market develops.

  89. ron December 1st, 2011 at 8:35 am

    What outfielders are we going to get that phelps,warren,mitchell,the lesser prospects will get us in a trade?
    I don’t see us getting an upgrade that is worth it.

    The uptons,heywards,etc… will take more than 2nd,3rd level prospects.

    Also,we need a balanced offense,meaning,swisher,tex,jeter have to do better against rh pitching.
    Doubt jeter gets much better though,because he has been trending down against righties.

    If swisher,tex,etc…,can’t turn it around against righties,then you make a change.
    You can’t have 40-50 % of your lineup struggling against rh pitching.

    ops against rh pitchers.

    martin-.750

    jeter-.666

    swisher-.763

    tex-.773

    gardner-.738

    Arod,granderson,cano are fine against them,but 5 out of 9 starters have an ops under .800,and it is to early to tell about montero.

    If swisher had an ops of .850 against rh pitchers,we wouldn’t be talking about upgrading the outfield.

    Now combine all of this with tex’s,grandersons,swishers,martin’s low batting averages,arod’s slipping production,and less playing time,and tex’s dropping obp,and it is concerning.

    That is not even mentioning nunez & his .673 ops against righties,so everytime he replaces arod we are not nearly as good.
    Pena i won’t even mention,and who knows about laird yet.

  90. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Dog-

    I think Wilson is gonna have lot’s of options.

    That’s a risky strategy on Texas’s part IMO.

    They had exclusive rights to negotiate with Wilson for a while and they chose this instead.

    If they really want him (which I doubt) they would have been in stronger on him from the get go.

    You don’t play Russian roulette with a guy you value highly.

    That’s my take.

  91. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:38 am

    MTU,

    Price has a special special arm…..but Id take Moore…..he’s just so impressive as a total package.

  92. dogface December 1st, 2011 at 8:41 am

    MTU:

    I think Wilson was hellbent on getting to the open market one way or another, so I don’t think the Rangers had much of a choice. Somebody may well pay him as a #1 starter (Burnett/Lackey money, maybe a little more) and my guess is they’ll end up sorry they did.

  93. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Blake-

    That’s what I think too.

    If he stays healthy I see No No’s in his future.

    Among other things.

    Looks like a special talent to me.

    Can’t remember one I was this impressed with on 1st viewing.

  94. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Dog-

    As you may have seen above I am not a big Wilson fan at the price point he will likely get.

    I’m with Cashman. Younger, faster and more athletic.

    We are about a year away from seeing what our young stud lefty can do.

    If we can’t get a real upgrade at a reasonable price I favor patience.

    Time is on our side.

  95. Erin December 1st, 2011 at 8:47 am

    FYI- December is Alex Rodriguez month

    Carry on ;)

  96. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Erin-

    I ALWAYS carry on.

    ;)

  97. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:50 am

    MTU,

    I saw Manny B vs Moore pitch against each other this year…..Banuelos didn’t look outclassed at all stuff wise and they both have that smooth motion and can create a downward plane with their arm angles……Moore just looked a lot more polished and aggressive. Moore was in low A ball at Manny’s age.

  98. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Blake-

    You are preaching to the choir on Manuelito.

    I’m glad he’s ours.

    I still love Moore though. I’m just not certain how good his 2ndary stuff will turn out to be.

    With that gas i’m not sure how much he even may need it.

    Manny’s CU is scary good and his curve has now become a serious weapon too.

    Once he gets the command down watch out.

    He’s smallish so I hope he can stay healthy. The delivery is smooth so that gives me some confidence.

    I hope they do not rush him because we know he can get ML’ers out now. Youkilis found that out in ST last year.

    :)

  99. ron December 1st, 2011 at 8:56 am

    “It’s just a matter of time,” said one scout who saw Banuelos make several starts this season. “It’s all there. He may have gotten caught up in trying to get (to the majors) this year, because it looked like he was overthrowing at times and got a little out of whack.

    “Remember, the kid is still only 20. His fastball touches 95-96 on the gun and it seems faster than that to the hitter because his delivery is so smooth and easy. And his curve and changeup are at least average major league pitches right now. He does compare to Moore, with a little less fastball and I’ll be surprised if he’s not in the Yankee rotation next season – by May or June, if not at the start.”

  100. blake December 1st, 2011 at 8:56 am

    I see the comparisons of CJ Wilson to AJ Burnett a lot….and I get that…..they figure to get similar type contracts and they both have warts or undesirable traits that make them risks.

    However to be fair……AJ has never had a season anywhere close to as good as Wilson’s 2011…..and certainly has never done it two years in a row like that. AJs best year with regards to ERA + was 122 years ago with the Marlins and that’s the only time he’s ever been over 120. Wilson was at 134 in 2010 and 152 in 2011 (which was better than Sabathia’s actually). I think how he’s pitched in that ballpark is undervalued.

  101. Gary December 1st, 2011 at 8:57 am

    MTU December 1st, 2011 at 8:47 am
    Dog-

    As you may have seen above I am not a big Wilson fan at the price point he will likely get.

    I’m with Cashman. Younger, faster and more athletic.

    We are about a year away from seeing what our young stud lefty can do.

    If we can’t get a real upgrade at a reasonable price I favor patience.

    Time is on our side.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    MTU, just see it a bit differently. I”m not ready for another year of not winning. Yankee tradition is to go out and win the WS, not to hope for what next year might bring. If I had a dollar for every hyped up minor league prospect who never made it in the bigs I’d be a rich man. Yanks need to make a move to fortify this years rotation to get to the goal, given the market it may not be as reasonable as Cash would like.

  102. Erin December 1st, 2011 at 9:00 am

    MTU-that’s good :)

  103. Gary December 1st, 2011 at 9:01 am

    ron December 1st, 2011 at 8:56 am
    “It’s just a matter of time,” said one scout who saw Banuelos make several starts this season. “It’s all there. He may have gotten caught up in trying to get (to the majors) this year, because it looked like he was overthrowing at times and got a little out of whack.

    “Remember, the kid is still only 20. His fastball touches 95-96 on the gun and it seems faster than that to the hitter because his delivery is so smooth and easy. And his curve and changeup are at least average major league pitches right now. He does compare to Moore, with a little less fastball and I’ll be surprised if he’s not in the Yankee rotation next season – by May or June, if not at the start.”

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    I thought you were recycling a Joba article from a few years past. :-)

    Seriously I think we all know the kid has potential, but to my earlier point many have had potential and it didn’t pan out, there aren ‘t many sure things out there. Lets see how he does in AAA this year.

  104. Erin December 1st, 2011 at 9:04 am

    New Post: Even the trade market running dry for the Yankees

    :arrow:

  105. MTU December 1st, 2011 at 9:04 am

    Gary-

    I understand how you feel. Everyone loves rings.

    I just think Cashman and co. have worked very hard to get the Farm up to the level it is now and I would hate to see it wasted by not deriving excellent benefit.

    I am not talking about guys like Phelps, Warren, or Mitchell.

    They might be more expendable.

    Trouble is they might not bring back what we want.

    Romine Is probably expendable too in the right trade.

    We have the chips. The question is how and when to use them ?

    Reasonable people can disagree on that.

    We do need to move some of the aforementioned guys soon as they will be rule 5 eligible if the
    Yankees do not protect them. And they cannot protect them all.

    The targets have to be available too. That’s something we can’t control

    The Yankees are always looking ahead. They will improve if it makes sense to them.

  106. ron December 1st, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Gary :

    Agree 100 %

    It is just nice to at least be able to get excited about our own,and we saw him pitch in st against ml hitters,and he looked ok.

  107. Villa Nova-Ya December 1st, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Not winning?

    Gary, they win. They win a lot. There is no way they are EVER going to win the WS every year. It is totally amazing to me that they are pretty much a given for the playoffs every year – not a whole lot of teams in their league in that regard.

    I’m not saying they can’t stand a tweak here and there, but from my end, it seems you paint such a bleak picture, a person without knowledge would think the Yankees are at the bottom of their division.

    WS or Bust is a great motivational and promotional mantra, and it is definitely something I see the Yankees working towards each season. But there are a lot of other teams gunning for the same prize. I like that the Yankees have a legitimate shot every year. I think that’s all one can reasonably hope for.

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