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Wrapping up the month of November

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 30, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It’s the last day of November, and the Yankees are rounding the corner into December just as Brian Cashman said they would: Piecing together their rotation while showing no signs of aggressive spending on either the trade or free agent markets.

They’ve brought back CC Sabathia and Freddy Garcia. Otherwise, a minor league deal with a utility infielder is the Yankees biggest move of the offseason. The Winter Meetings are less than a week away, and the Yankees front office is showing only calm patience.

Where were we at this time last year?

On the last day of November, 2010, the Yankees still had two major deals they had to complete. Mariano Rivera was moving quietly toward a two-year agreement, and Derek Jeter was waiting for a counteroffer in his surprisingly tense contract negotiations. Meanwhile, Cliff Lee remained the biggest target of them all, with no obvious Plan B on the market. 

Oh, and last November 30 was also the day we learned Cashman was going to rappel down a building in an elf costume.

Safe to say, things are quieter this time around.

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118 Responses to “Wrapping up the month of November”

  1. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Oh, and last November 30 was also the day we learned Cashman was going to rappel down a building in an elf costume.

    *********************

    He totally needs to do that again ;)

  2. dogface November 30th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Blake,

    Thanks. Yes, pretty new. Sort of a lurker before. Seeing lay of land and all. Really like what Chad J does here.

  3. Out Pitch November 30th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Anybody else notice that since Steinbrenner left the building, the Yanks stopped spending $ on new acquisitions?

  4. blake November 30th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    “Anybody else notice that since Steinbrenner left the building, the Yanks stopped spending $ on new acquisitions?”

    Sabathia (twice), Burnett, Tex, Soriano.

  5. Irreverent Discourse November 30th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    Bobby V!

    This is a beautiful thing.

  6. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Yay Tex! :)

    YankeesPR congrats to @teixeiramark25 who will be honored as the @marchofdimes Sportsman of the Year today

  7. 108 stitches November 30th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Any blockbuster deal done by the Yankees in Dallas next week would be an absolute shock. None are necessary.

  8. Irreverent Discourse November 30th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Any blockbuster deal done in Dallas next week by any team would be a shock.

    I’m sure Heyman will lose 20 pounds tweeting from the meetings just the same…

  9. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    I wouldn’t be shocked for some big things to happen in Dallas…..the market has been moving slowly and now that the CBA stuff is over I think teams may be ready to act. We’ll see….but there are a lot of FA’s yet to sign and there has been a lot of trade speculation with little to no actual action so far.

  10. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Blake-

    May not be the Yanks but I would not be surprised if someone else gets something big done.

    ;)

  11. longtimefan November 30th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Does anyone else miss Peter Abraham?

  12. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    There are a lot of new GMs in place, too. They are probably taking a little longer to evaluate their rosters, needs, trade chips, etc.

  13. Mike Ri November 30th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Does anyone else miss Peter Abraham?

    ——–
    ummmm not really

  14. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    MTU,

    I agree.

  15. austinmac November 30th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    I think it is clear the Yankees will not sign any of the significant free agent pitchers. Wilson, Buehrle and Jackson will get more than the Yankees will spend.

    If the trade requirements are the Yankees must get a big win, then no trades.

    I don’t see anything big happening. They have so much money tied up with AROD, Teixiera etc., I believe they are going to go with young and cheap and hope they produce. Let’s hope it works.

    I suspect the other teams do not place significant value on the non-Bs pitchers. How long can Warren, Phelps and Mitchell stay in AAA, age and lose value even more? It seems to me something has got to give for them and Romine.

  16. Irreverent Discourse November 30th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Does anyone else miss Peter Abraham?

    No.

  17. Mike Ri November 30th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    I suspect the other teams do not place significant value on the non-Bs pitchers. How long can Warren, Phelps and Mitchell stay in AAA, age and lose value even more? It seems to me something has got to give for them and Romine.

    —-

    totally agree austinmac … something has to give .

  18. bruceb November 30th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Erin November 30th, 2011 at 8:30 am
    Jeter made Barbara Walters’ Most Fascinating People of 2011 List. The show will air December 14:

    http://tiny.cc/2k2ck

    If Kim Kardashian and Derek Jeter are truly among the Most Fascinating People of 2011 then it sure must have been a dull year.

  19. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Any team looking for a SP is waiting on a resolution to The Darvish Situation. No team with the $$$$ to get in on the bidding, wants to sign somebody like Wilson, or worse yet, trade bodies for Danks or Garza, and Then find out they coulda had a shot at Darvish. This logjam among teams with the $$$ and or bodies to get a SP, is proof-positive concerning the perceived huge athletic difference of Darvish vs. All the other available SP’s. As for the offensive side of the malaise, free agents are waiting on Pujols and Fielder to sign and set the bar $$$ at it’s highest level. Till The Pachinko Kid makes his intentions known, and either Pujols or Fielder signs, things are gonna be Very slow. The Winter Meetings will produce rumors, but Darvish, Pujols, and Fielder are currently holding up the action.

  20. blake November 30th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    “I suspect the other teams do not place significant value on the non-Bs pitchers”

    Are you serious? You mean they can’t trade those guys for Matt Garza ;)

  21. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    si_vault Just like any rational Boston sports fan, I’m ready to put Bobby V on the baseball manager Mt. Rushmore: http://pic.twitter.com/C6w5fOlR

  22. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    At Barb Walters age, dishwater is fascinating.

  23. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Darvish is being valued way higher than guys like Strasburg.

    Does that make sense ?

    ;)

  24. pat November 30th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    “Jeter made Barbara Walters’ Most Fascinating People of 2011 List. ”

    Can’t miss the irony in the guy who pretends to be the least fascinating person alive to be named most fascinating.

    Erin-

    Is Baseball Wives on your must see TV list? I saw a preview this week and it seemed more like Baseball ex-wives of players no one cares about.

  25. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    If the Yanks can’t get comparable value for Phelps,’Mitchell and Warren, probably best to park them at AAA. The Yanks will need rotation help from time to time, so it’s helpful to have those three available for a spot start. It’s the type of luxury the Red Sox did not have last season.

    Of those three, the only one I’ve seen is Phelps. He had decent strikeout totals in the fall league. He spotted his fastball well. Also liked his demeanor — seemed very competitive.

  26. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    pat-it’s not, for exactly the reason you mentioned. LOL

  27. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Phelps is a good pitcher….he doesn’t have overwhelming stuff but he’s been successful at every level and he knows how to pitch.

  28. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    -PAT-
    “We pursue that which retreats from us”

  29. dogface November 30th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Darvish is being valued way higher than guys like Strasburg

    ========================

    Valued in what way?

  30. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Blake-

    I like Warren a little more than Phelps. Stuff is more dynamic IMO.

    I think GB feels that Mitchell doesn’t get the respect he may deserve.

  31. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Darvish-> Monetarily.

  32. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    I like Warren too…..he does have better stuff and he did have great taste in colleges.

  33. pat November 30th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    “We pursue that which retreats from us”

    We pursue that which will make us money is more accurate.

    Agreeing to a primetime interview with Barbara Walters is a hard sell as retreating too.

  34. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Blake-

    If you say so.

    :)

  35. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    If what Cashman says about Noesi are true, he’s the best bet of all of them:

    And Noesi is the next Nova. He’s throwing the (heck) out of the ball in the Dominican Winter League right now, hitting 98 on the gun with his fastball, and commanding his stuff. He’ll be ready to step in next season if we need him.”

  36. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    I don’t know how Darvish is being valued …..I do think that there is this feeling out there that he’s the best pitcher available and I don’t see any way that we can know that for sure. He’s a bigger risk than CJ Wilson is for me……Wilson has his drawbacks and concerns ….but I’ve seen him pitch well against big leaguers in a launching pad 2 straight years.

    Wilson’s road ERA has been under 3 for 2 years in a row…..I understand the appeal of Darvish because of the luxury tax deal and because of his age and upside etc…..but Wilson is a safer bet warts and all IMO.

  37. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Phelps seems like the type of pitcher the Twins would covet. Wonder if Liriano will be made available?

  38. dogface November 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Darvish-> Monetarily

    ==================

    Don’t you think that’s based more on the process it’ll take to get him than it is an actual talent evaluation?

  39. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Noesi has more upside than Nova to me…..better delivery…..better command…..misses more bats. That doesn’t mean he will end up better or even as good…..but I like Noesi a lot. He’s my favorite pitching prospect behind Banuelos.

  40. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    I like Warren too…..he does have better stuff and he did have great taste in colleges
    ————————————
    Blake-You must be a Tarheel. Thanks for your input on the luxury tax question I had on the last post.

  41. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Darvish valued @ around 100 mil including posting fee are the speculative estimates.

    Might go higher. Not likely to be lower IMO.

    That’s a lot of coin. Period.

    However, it ain’t my money.

    ;)

  42. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    I’m guessing the Bobby V. signing should knock 30 minutes off every Yankee vs. R\Sox game. He talks a good game, we will see if he backs it up. He was desperate to get back into The Game, and took on a major reclamation project both on and off the field.With Lackey out for the season, I could see them going Dice K all over again for Darvish. Lost a SP, Closer jumped ship, Ortiz may blow town, and the Clubhouse is an Outhouse. Desperate times in Bean Town.

  43. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Trader,

    You know it ;) don’t take that about the luxury tax for gospel because Im not 100% sure its correct ……but I think it is…..I think the tax only applies to players on the 40 man roster…..and if traded he no longer would be.

  44. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    And CJ Wilson values himself at 100 mil for ?5years

  45. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    MLBTradeRumors has a post that the Giants are shopping Affeldt, who will be paid $5 million next year. With that salary, I don’t imagine he would cost much prospect-wise. Yanks could use a second lefty.

  46. Mike Ri November 30th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    I?m guessing the Bobby V. signing should knock 30 minutes off every Yankee vs. R\Sox game. He talks a good game, we will see if he backs it up. He was desperate to get back into The Game, and took on a major reclamation project both on and off the field.With Lackey out for the season, I could see them going Dice K all over again for Darvish. Lost a SP, Closer jumped ship, Ortiz may blow town, and the Clubhouse is an Outhouse. Desperate times in Bean Town.

    ——–
    and Heidi Watney left !!!

  47. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Dog-

    Either way that’s the freight.

    The going price. I don’t want to get too technical about it.

    He is going to cost X dollars per year.

    Way more than Strasburg. More than a guy like Chapman. etc.

    Should a team shell out that kind of dough considering his comps ?

    Is he that much better than Dice-bb ? How did that work out for the Sux ?

    P.S. I doubt his stuff is better than what strasburg showed before TJ. He was considered one of the best pitching prospects to come down the pike in quite some time.

  48. dogface November 30th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Darvish valued @ around 100 mil including posting fee are the speculative estimates

    ==============================

    I think if Strasburg and Darvish were subject to the same processs for entry into MLB, he’d be valued at a much higher number than Darvish.

    The process is what makes the difference.

  49. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    I’d rather have Thornton than Affeldt for that kind of money.

    Besides, He comes with Danks attached.

    :)

  50. LGY November 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Darvish isn’t Cliff Lee. There’s too much risk to wait for him to make a decision unless you’re dead set on winning the posting by bidding $50-60 million

  51. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    FakePeteGammons One of the great things about Bobby V is he’s so little he’s comfy flying coach. #Redsox can save on first class tix! This is Peter Gammons.

  52. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    In hindsight, lefty Aroldis Chapman at 30M might have the best bet for the Yankees

  53. BIG AL November 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    MTU -

    One look at the numbers Sarvish has put up speaks for itself. No, these are not numbers put up at the MLB level, but then again numbers put up by MiLB prospects are not against ML talent either. Darvishis #1 on my wisah list.

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock November 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    As buffoonish as Valentine can be, it really doesn’t matter much who manages the Red Sox. What matters is that their pitching is mediocre.

  55. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Like I said Dogface that’s a technicality in my mind.

    His price is what it is when the 2 are compared.

    You’re new here. Welcome to the board by the way.

  56. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    FakePeteGammons One of the great things about Bobby V is he’s so little he’s comfy flying coach. #Redsox can save on first class tix! This is Peter Gammons
    ——————————————
    Hope the players enjoy flying coach also, especially the big boys like Bobby Jenks!!:)

  57. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Al-

    Good to see you. It’s not my money, or my job on the line.

    If you want him under your tree call Cash and just tell him.

    He’ll listen to you.

    ;)

  58. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    The upside to Affeldt is he’s a one-year commitment, and he won’t cost much talent wise. With Cashman’s track record on lefty’s, one year is appealing. He is coming off a great year, too.

  59. m November 30th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    This CJ Wilson thing is going to be fascinating when we find out. We don’t hear anything except what comes out of his own camp.

    We all must really undervalue him, because he’s bold enough to offer a hometown “discount” of $100M.

    I honestly think if he slipped into the $60-$75M range the Yankees might swoop in.

    But CJ’s agent said he will most likely make a decision by next week.

    O/T, but if you’re a Sherlock Holmes fan, there’s a modern, techie BBC version on Netflix called “Sherlock”. First season is only 3 episodes, but it’s pretty good.

  60. dogface November 30th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    MTU:

    Thanks. Seems to be lot of good discussion here. Look forward to partaking in it from time to time as work and stuff allows.

  61. blake November 30th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    The level of play on Japan is by most reports considered to be equivalent to AAA or better……and Darvish has put up really impressive numbers against that competition.

    There are other factors involved though…..hitters approaches…..the strike zone……the ball……the rest schedule …..the culture……..the approach of MLB hitters and the strike zone really bothered Dice K after a scouting report built up on him. Big leaguers spit on a lot of bad pitches that guys in Japan swing at…..

    I hope they bid on him if he posts because I like the idea of what he coukd be……but its a fairly big risk for an organization that’s been burned twice already.

  62. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Long haul, a Mgr is miniscule in a teams W-L, unless the guy is absolutley incompetent\Stump Merrill. BUT, you absolutely getta jump-start to begin the journey when the new Mgr is the antithesis of the guy he’s replacing. The Yanks saw this with Lemon-Martin, as will the R\Sox. The jump-start teminates quickly, but it is a jump-start none the less.

  63. BIG AL November 30th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    MTU -

    Mike, I want to go all in this off season. If Darvish posts, get him. Then go after the Cuban CF and sign him. Re-sign Chavez and keep Swisher as my 4th OF and BU 1B. I’m done and ready to do battle. Any other SP needs the team feels a need to fill can be done with the talent from AAA. Now, IMO, you’ve built a team for both the season and post season.

  64. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Dogface-

    Just watch out for regulars like Blake, Al, YT, GB,VN, and others and you’ll be fine.

    As far as myself you never have to worry because everyone knows I’m crazy.

    ;)

  65. Irreverent Discourse November 30th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Big Al – Has there ever been a postseason you didn’t want to go “all in” on?

  66. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Got to run.

    Catch you all later.

  67. UnKnown November 30th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    C Grand on The Herd with Colin

  68. 108 stitches November 30th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Tucker :

    Affeldt might be the bullpen LH Cashman is looking for to push Logan or at least until Chamberlain returns in June-July. It depends on what ‘Frisco wants in return.

    http://giants.mlb.com/team/pla....._id=346793

  69. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Al-

    I leave that sort of stuff to the professionals it’s above my pay grade.

    You know me by now though. I’m like Blake. Greedy.

    Later.

    :)

  70. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    MTU-
    Go “take a hike.” :)

  71. BIG AL November 30th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    ID -

    Yes indeed there have been several off seasons where I felt some minor changes were all that was necessary. But, given where this team is now, and where it needs improvement, I think it’s time to be very bold. Again, JMO. :)

  72. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    O/T, but if you?re a Sherlock Holmes fan, there?s a modern, techie BBC version on Netflix called ?Sherlock?. First season is only 3 episodes, but it?s pretty good.

    *****************

    m, I’ve heard that’s really good. I’ll have to check it out.

  73. MTU November 30th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    YT-

    Right away sir.

    ;)

  74. BIG AL November 30th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    MTU -

    Miss seeing those pictures from your hikes – get going!

  75. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    UnKnown November 30th, 2011 at 11:49 am
    C Grand on The Herd with Colin

    *********************

    Wow, Grandyman has been a busy little centerfielder this offseason. Taiwan, book tour, visiting schools…

    ;)

  76. austinmac November 30th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    m,

    Thanks for the Sherlock tip. I will check it out as I do like my BBC.

  77. BIG AL November 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Erin -

    Grandy is not only a great asset on the field, but off field as well. He’s been a great addition to this team.

  78. tucker November 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    It would be valuable to have a second lefty in the pen. Somebody Girardi could use for 1-2 batters. I thought Bochy used Affeldt very well.

    The yanks have plenty of righties who can retire lefties: DRob, Mo and Soriano. But you don’t want to waste those guys on 1-2 batters, and Logan is hot and cold. Add a second lefty like Affeldt, and your bullpen is ready … Even though the Sox pitching is in disarray, they still have some dangerous lefties. This would help the Yanks match up.

  79. RadioKev November 30th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    The Yankees won the World Series with Igawa on the pay roll. What’s the worst that can happen with Darvish? Can he be as bad as AJ or Igawa? I don’t really think so.

  80. blake November 30th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    SI_JonHeyman 3 mins 1 remarkable thing about winter is nonexistent pujols market. only bid is lowball bid from #marlins, who really seek reyes

    I think its interesting….and I think the Yankees and Sox certainly hurt him…..but I also think his 2011 season cost him a lot of money……he had a great season again but it wasn’t on par with his norms and he showed just a hint of break down and potential decline.

    There are already whispers that he coukd be older than he’s listed as and teams are just really scared I think to go to the numbers he’s asking for what are likely to be decline years.

  81. Mike Ri November 30th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Can ( Darvish ) be as bad as AJ or Igawa? I don?t really think so.

    ———
    Lets hope your right !

  82. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Tucker-

    Affeldt, although pricey at 5M, could be a good addition to the bullpen-as long as he doesn’t pitch day games!!

    Attached his 2011 split stats:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....my-affeldt

  83. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Al- agreed :)

  84. BIG AL November 30th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    You’all have a great day.

  85. RadioKev November 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Blake,

    On Pujols, I just think it’s the market. Fielder is also out there, and 1B is flooded with talent all ready. Sox, Yankees, and Phillies are tied down to major commitments, along with many other teams. Who are the big players on Pujols? The Cardinals, and maybe the Cubs?

    A-Rod was by far the best player available at 3B when he signed his contract. The talent pool was much more shallow at that position, at that time. We can’t say the same for Pujols.

  86. blake November 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    “What’s the worst that can happen with Darvish? Can he be as bad as AJ or Igawa? I don’t really think so.”

    The investment will be significantly more than Igawa though……so much though that I can’t see banishment to AAA as being an option if it doesn’t work out.

    If they do it then Hal needs to be ok with the risk and has to be willing to absorb it so that it wont significantly affect other decisions……if he is cool with that then go for it……if he’s not then Id be nervous about the investment.

  87. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    I believe the July 31 trade deadline has eclipsed the Winter Meetins in terms of GM’s haggling, players traded, and teams being made or broken. 85% of the Winter Meetings is now free agent signings. You getta lotta rumors generated at the Winter Meetings, but the Hot Stove does that already. Approaching July 31, teams have almost a crystal clear picture of what they need to reach the Playoffs\World Series. The Rangers 2 yrs running have made precise\impact trades, (Lee\Bullpen) that got them into the World Series. Year-in-year-out, the impact trades made at the Winter Meetings can be transcribed onto the inside of a match book cover.

  88. blake November 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Radio,

    Yea I think it is the market in part…..however if Pujols were 25 right now instead of 31 I think the Yankees would find a spot for him whether they had Tex or not. I think the questions about what you’ll actually be getting for the money are a big part of it as well

  89. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    The one positive about getting in on the auction for Darvish, is if you win the bid you have 30 days to work on the contract. The club has the edge, because if you can’t agree the player goes back to Japan and can’t post until the following season, and the posting fee isn’t paid.

  90. Irreverent Discourse November 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    I’m not so sure… The July 31st trades are simply easier to ascertain the impact from.

    The Rangers had a good team that was going to the playoffs for the last 2 years regardless of the moves they made at the deadline.

    Signing Beltre before last year was arguably more of an impact than anything they did mid-season. Mike Adams and Koji Uehara pitched like absolute garbage after they got traded to Texas. Cliff Lee may have been a great move in 2010, but in the end it won them nothing and cost them Smoak.

  91. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    A good point was made about the upcoming July trading deadline. Now that there’s an extra wildcard, more teams might feel they are in the race and be reluctant to trade-especially pitching. The new CBA should have extended the trading deadline at least thru the middle of August.

  92. blake November 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    ” The club has the edge, because if you can’t agree the player goes back to Japan and can’t post until the following season, and the posting fee isn’t paid.”

    Yea and I’ve said this…if they decide to go after him then they should bid to win and then play hardball on the contract…..however they do have to be fair there….if MLB feels that’s they are lowballing him or aren’t negotiating in good faith then they can pull their bid and give it to the runner up.

  93. austinmac November 30th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees are going to spend $5M on the pen. Cashman is in charge. I suspect Levine’s days of decision making on personnel are over after Soriano. Cashman will, IMO, see if he can find a cheap lefty as he did with cheap starters last year.

    I still like the Danks and Thornton combo plan.

  94. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    The Yankee signing of Igawa was a knee-JERK reaction to losing out on the Dice K bidding to their arch nemesis\Boston. Darvish has been scouted to no end. All teams have plenty of intel on Darvish and are anxiously waiting fully informed and open eyed. The guys age\experience is the kicker.

  95. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Blake-

    Are you certain that the MLB commissioner can award the runner up with the Japanese player. Then that team has another 30 days to sign the player. I haven’t heard this.

  96. 108 stitches November 30th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    I believe that the Rays will be the main competition for the Yankees in the AL East.
    They’ll have a full year of Desmond Jennings and Longoria. It’s a contract year for B.J. Upton and the Rays will not sign him as a free agent for 2013. He’ll put up good numbers.
    With Matt Moore and Alex Cobb pushing to be in the starting rotation, they can deal either Jeff Niemann or Wade Davis for a bat or relief pitching. They have some good bench depth.

    Boston has glaring pitching holes to fill and a RF is desperately needed with no trading chips to use. No surprise if Toronto finishes 3rd.

  97. austinmac November 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Donnybrook,

    I don’t think the trade deadline will be as active with the additional wild card in each league. More teams will be in the race and less will be out meaning less players available and more competitors. Even before that change, Cashman didn’t seem willing to convert young players into proven players as the Rangers did to their great benefit.

  98. RadioKev November 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    blake November 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    Radio,

    Yea I think it is the market in part…..however if Pujols were 25 right now instead of 31 I think the Yankees would find a spot for him whether they had Tex or not. I think the questions about what you’ll actually be getting for the money are a big part of it as well
    —————

    Well, that’s a bit of a paradox. You can’t imagine what the bidding on Pujols would be if he was 25, because his value is based on his overwhelmingly great years prior to this one.

    I’m skeptical that in theory the Yankees would take on that kind of contract even if he were 25, and then move Tex (who’s also 25 in this comparison? I don’t even know). The Yankees have money, but I don’t know if they’re willing to spend that much money all at once. A-Rod, CC, Tex, and Pujols? That’s a lot of resources right there.

  99. Irreverent Discourse November 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    No, only the team that wins the posting bid can sign the player or he stays in Japan.

    When a player under contract with a Nippon Professional Baseball team wishes to play in Major League Baseball, he must notify his current team’s management and request that they make him available for posting during the next posting period (November 1 – March 1).[4] The NPB team can reject this request, and the player will not be posted.[22] However, if the team consents, the player is presented to the MLB Commissioner. The Commissioner then notifies all MLB teams of the posted player and holds a four-day-long silent auction during which interested MLB teams submit sealed bids in U.S. dollars to the Commissioner’s Office. After the allotted four days have passed, the Commissioner closes the bidding process and notifies the posted player’s NPB team of the highest bid amount but not who the bidding team is. The NPB team then has four days to either accept or reject the non-negotiable bid amount.[16]

    If the bid is rejected, the NPB team retains rights to the player. If it is accepted, the successful MLB team is granted the exclusive rights to negotiate with the player for 30 days. If the player and the MLB team agree on contract terms before the 30-day period has expired, the NPB team receives the bid amount as a transfer fee within five business days. The player is then free to play for his new MLB team in the coming season.[16] The transfer fee is not included when calculating an MLB team’s total payroll, which is subject to a luxury tax when it exceeds $155 million.[23][24] If the MLB team cannot come to a contract agreement with the posted player, then no fee is paid and the rights to the player revert to his NPB team. A player can request to be posted again in subsequent years, and the process is repeated with no advantage to the club that had won the bidding the previous year.[16]

  100. Deal With It November 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    ==============

    Thanks for the perspective Chin.

  101. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Igawa was a poor signing. I watched some of the Japanese video on him and wasn’t impressed. He wasn’t even getting lefties out. Darvish is light years ahead of him and could very well be the best Japanese pitcher , better than Nomo, to pitch in the US. But it’s not my money!!

  102. LGY November 30th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    @alexspeier: Sources: #RedSox officials told player(s) at end of year that they wouldn’t hire someone like Bobby Valentine http://t.co/T50wgta5

    @TrippingOlney: THE RED SOX DID NOT LIE WHEN THEY SAID THEY WOULDN’T HIRE SOMEONE *LIKE* BOBBY VALENTINE. THEY HIRED BOBBY VALENTINE HIMSELF.

  103. Erin November 30th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    New Post: Teixeira being honored today

    :arrow:

  104. DONNYBROOK November 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Texas practically has had a cake walk into the Playoffs considering the patsy division they (compete?) in. Add that extra wild card AND Houston and it gets even easier. Any deal or signing they engage in is not to get into the playoffs, its to progress through it. By July 31, a team also has a pretty good idea of who they are gonna be matched up against and can arm themselves accordingly. Playing in the AL West and having $$$ gives Texas a huge advantage come July 31, and in general.

  105. blake November 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    I read somewhere that the commish could reward the bid to the 2nd place team if it was clear that the winning bidder wasn’t negotiating in good faith…….like if they just won the bid to block him from signing with anyone else and then offered like a one year contract. I think the commish has the latitude to do that…….coukd be wrong.

    In general ….yes they can only negotiate with the winning bidder…..but I think the winning bidder actually has to try to reach an agreement.

  106. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    ID-

    Thanks again for posting the bidding process for Japanese players. It took a full 6 months from the posting until signing to get Matsusaka signed.

    Again, sinc Yu Darvish is going thru a divorce, a decision by him to request to be posted by the Ham Fighters, might wait until the divorce is finalized.

  107. m November 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Erin,

    I like it because the text messages pop up on the screen (yes, like those irritating retirement plan commercials). Just adds another dimension to the show.

    austinmac,

    If you like your BBC, then you should check out Luther. Season 1 is on Netflix. I hunted down seasons 2 & 3 (very short) online. The guy who played Stringer Bell on the Wire is the title character. Very good show.

    As for the Phillies, they are looking to get older. Of the 8 minor league contracts with spring invites, included are Podsednik, a 33, 34, and a 35 year old pitcher. (mlbtr)

  108. Irreverent Discourse November 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Any deal or signing they engage in is not to get into the playoffs, its to progress through it

    As I have explained for the last 2 days, this is not true. Deadline deals are for plugging gaps and solidifying your playoff run, yes. Off-season signings are for winning the regular season and your division, nothing more.

    The Rangers are certainly not foolish enough to believe they are in an easy division to win. Especially if they lose out on Wilson.

  109. Yankee Trader November 30th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    DONNYBROOK-

    The Rangers also had the advantage in 2010 of having MLB allow them to take on payroll with the trades for Lee, Molina and Gomes, plus some others, when they were in bankruptcy.

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