Traders: The Yankees who arrived in trades
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 01, 2011 
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This morning’s post made me curious: How many players on the Yankees 40-man roster originally came over in player-for-player trades? Unless I’m missing one, the answer is eight, both big names and small.
Alex Rodriguez
February 16, 2004
For Alfonso Soriano and Joaquin Arias
His current deal was signed as a free agent, but Rodriguez originally came to the Yankees in a massive trade before the 2004 season. Soriano has not maintained his production, and Arias never developed as expected. Rodriguez has won two MVP awards and one World Series with the Yankees, though he’s battled injuries in recent years.
Kevin Whelan
November 10, 2006
For Gary Sheffield
The Yankees got three young pitchers when they sent Sheffield to the Tigers. Humberto Sanchez was a huge prospect at the time, but injuries took their toll and he never came close to his perceived ceiling. Anthony Claggett got a few innings with the Yankees before landing with the Pirates for a while. Then there was Whelan, a forgotten prospect until his breakout season this year with Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. It was enough to earn two big league outings.
Nick Swisher
November 13, 2008
For Wilson Betemit, Jeff Marquez and Jhonny Nunez
The Yankees also got minor league reliever Kanekoa Texeira in this deal, which was an absolute coup for Brian Cashman. Capitalizing on a down year for Swisher, the Yankees gave up a utility man they didn’t need and two young pitchers who have barely pitched out of the minors for a guy who became an all-star right fielder. No question, this one was lopsided in the Yankees favor.
Curtis Granderson
December 9, 2009
For Ian Kennedy, Phil Coke and Austin Jackson
This was a three-team swap, and the Yankees gave up three young players for their center field MVP candidate. When Jackson got off to a terrific start in Detroit and Granderson struggled through his first half-season with the Yankees, this looked like a rough deal for New York. It now looks like a trade that helped all three teams, largely because Kennedy has developed into a legitimate front-of-the-rotation starter for the Diamondbacks, while Granderson has blossomed into a force for the Yankees.
Boone Logan
December 21, 2009
For Melky Cabrera, Mike Dunn and Arodys Vizcaino
The key to this deal was supposed to Javier Vazquez, but instead the Yankees have gotten more value out of Logan, who’s been their primary left-handed reliever the past two seasons and will likely play the same role in 2012. Vazquez ultimately led to a compensation draft pick that the Yankees used on Dante Bichette Jr.
Greg Golson
January 26, 2010
For Mitch Hilligoss
Golson’s been a role player for the Yankees, an athletic center fielder capable of playing all three outfield positions and steal a bag from time to time. Hilligoss was a minor league utility infielder, and he hasn’t escaped the minors. It’s a small win for the Yankees.
Justin Maxwell
February 3, 2011
For Adam Olbrychowski
Once considered a pretty good prospect for the Nationals, Maxwell never really hit at the big league level, and the Yankees got him for a young pitcher buried in their pitching-rich system. Maxwell was considered good outfield depth, and he might have cracked the big league roster in 2011 had he not missed the second half of the season with an injury. He was hitting for power and getting on base in Triple-A.
Chris Dickerson
March 25, 2011
For Sergio Mitre
The Yankees ultimately got Mitre back, and they found Dickerson to be a useful fourth and fifth outfielder during the regular season. Because he’s a left-handed hitter, this hasn’t been the best fit for Dickerson, but he’s given the Yankees some depth as a position where the Yankees system has been fairly thin since Brett Gardner graduated to the big leagues.
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The Javy trade is the only dud of that group. And the jury is still out based on Bichette’s development, though losing Vizcaino hurt. Not a bad record for Cashman.
Yea overall Cashman has a been very good at trades……the Javy trade is the only one that has semi come back to bite him that I can think of and that’s pretty incredible for as long as he’s been doing this……Cash is a good GM….he really is.
I’ve always liked Phil Hughes’ attitude. I do think this is a make or break year for him, but I’d bet it’s going to be a make.
I don’t think its necessarily a make or break year for him as a pitcher all together……but it very well might be as a Yankee…..they need to see something from him this year…..they need to see progress from last year.
PeteAbe: So Begins the Valentine Championship Era in Boston …
The shame . The arrogance . The audacity .
blake…Here’s the thing about Phil Hughes…..As we all understand that his work load doubled in 2010 when compared to his 2009 bullpen role….In fact he logged just about the same amount of innings in 2010 as he did in all the years combined since he hit the Bronx……I fully expect him to return to his status of ” Young Master Hughes ” come 2011……He’s been a snake bitten pitcher ever since arriving at 161st Street & River Ave…….His talent we’ve only seen in abbreviated stretches…..Let’s keep in mind that he’s still a pretty young guy…..I still believe he’ll end up with 200 career wins, and it’s a shame that he’s lost almost 2 seasons with bizarre injuries……..Shout out to Bo Knows
Pat M,
Yea I still believe in him as well…..the problem is that those injuries and because of the way the Yankees brought him up he’s running out of time until free agency……he’s only got 2 more years……so while I think there is a really good starting pitcher in there too…
I think the Yankees are going to have to make a decision on him soon and they need him to perform in 2012…..because if he doesn’t they may be forced to put him in the pen and then at that point I doubt they’d go back.
Coming to ST in great shape with no innings restrictions should be a great start….2012 is the year Phil shows us what he’s made of !
Pat M. – hi, there. Hope you’re well, and the mrs. Pat M. as well.
Was today pool service day?
I’m starting to suspect that Hughes can’t sustain his fastball as a starter. I agree that 2012 will be make or break for him as a Yankee, but it is just as likely that it could be make or break for him as a starter. I think that he could flourish as a reliever if starting doesn’t pan out for him.
I was really heartened to see Hughes’ remarks about coming to camp prepared to compete for his slot in the rotation. It’s very promising.
Wins in 2012, imo.
CC 22
Nova 15
Garcia 12
AJ 10
Hughes 15
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Noesi 6
I believe cashman is in the cat bird seat with his pitching corps. less a small tweak or two.
In his years in the minors, Hughes had one season that that he topped 100 innings…2006. In fact, he has less than 800 professional innings pitched and more than a third of those innings came in 2 seasons 4 years apart. More than anyone, he was hurt by the need to be an emergency call-up in 2007. The flow of his developement has hardly beenm conventional, through nobody’s fault.
Ruby – just STFU already with ‘Pete Abe,’ and frankly in general.
Hopefully it’s AJ and not Hughes who has to pack hos backs after Cash acquires another starter next week.
Pat M, I just pulled the trigger on WV -2, not with some trepidation, however. The line moved a point towards SF very quickly, not sure what that’s all about but I’m not complaining (yet).
Also, I see you’re predicting a CJ Wilson signing. Who leaves the rotation to make room for him?
“Who leaves the rotation to make room for him?”
Cashman is working to Jedi mind trick some team in to taking AJ
Nobody wants to hear it, but if there’s another major starting pitcher signed or traded for sans a trade, then Nova would get bumped.
Please show your math.
“Nobody wants to hear it, but if there’s another major starting pitcher signed or traded for sans a trade, then Nova would get bumped.”
Nah…I really don’t think so.
The only way Hughes or Nova gets bumped out is if they don’t perform in ST and more importantly in April.
Clubhouse Confidential did a spot on Bernie’s HOF candidacy…..compared to Kirby Puckett and Kenny said yes he should get in.
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spend money a year later on a worse player than Beltre
I have less concerns about Hughes and Nova than I do about Garcia duplicating 2011. His junk balls won’t be fooling anyone next season as much as they did in 2011.
Knowing the Yankees, Hughes is headed to the bullpen if the acquire another starter.
Ramirez has been more consistant in his career than Beltre has.
“His junk balls won’t be fooling anyone next season as much as they did in 2011.”
fooled them in 2010 as well.
“Ramirez has been more consistant in his career than Beltre has.”
Beltre is a year younger, a much better defender, and has been a better hitter the last 2 years……he’s been one of the better players in baseball ever since he got out of the land where hitters go to die.
Hughes will need to hold down the fort in the 6th inning until Joba gets back.
Did the Yankees really give Garcia a $5MM contract or was that a Thanksgiving hallucination on my part?
If the answer to the former is yes, would that put him ahead or behind Nova and Hughes on the rotation depth chart?
I believe Hughes last went to API in Arizona prior to 2009, and his fastball that year was as good as it’s been. Of course he was tue set up man that year, but he was routinely hitting 95 on the gun with good rising action. I hope his offseason conditioning program returns his leg strength he displayed that year.
API here in the desert has done some miracle work with committed athletes. Just look at Ellsbury’s season last year. He must have added 10-15′pounds of muscle last offseason, and the results paid off well.
Nick in SF……I have the same wager on WV and I have St. John’s + 25 vs. Kentucky…..As for CJ Wilson, I think and have always thought that The Yanks will make a run for him although The Angels are the one’s who would profit the most in inking him….He lives here and he’d slid right in their rotation……Doc Joe, no pool service today due to the Santa Ana winds that are causing havoc all around So. Cal…….GB, I agree with you regarding Freddy Garcia…..
I don’t think 5 million bucks will ultimately keep Garcia in the rotation if he isn’t one of their best 5…..you have to make at least 16.5 per year for that security.
If Buerhle falls in their lap they will get him and worry about who drops from rotation.
Otherwise it’s Noesi in the mix as the 6th man.
They can always bring back Bartolo.
Nick
I would say the playoff rotation gives us the most accurate depth chart heading into next year.
I see no real reason why Garcia wouldn’t be effective again next year…..he was effective in 2010 throwing slow, slower, and slowest as well. He probably won’t pitch to a 3.62 era again but he’ll keep them in a lot of games and throw a lot of quality innings just like he has the last 2 seasons IMO.
I think if Cashman adds a starter then he’ll be also trying very hard to move AJ behind the scenes…..and if he can’t then I think he’ll be told to come to ST ready to compete for a job with Hughes and Noesi…..
It’s ok to think Garcia won’t be effective, but would Cashman have signed him to that contract if he held the same opinion?
Interesting diversion of opinions; I’m curious what they’re all based on.
LGY,
Can’t tell if you’re being facetious or serious about Hughes. You keep riding it. I’m going to guess facetious.
What I meant to say is that if we acquire a starter without trading one away, it will be CC/AJ/Garcia/Hughes+ the starter slotting into the appropriate slot. And I said a major acquisition, meaning not a retread/minor league contract with a invite to ST type of pitcher.
I think Nova has a guaranteed spot based on what he did last year.
Pat M.,
How are things going out your way? Hope your holidays was near perfect for you and family.
I loved the job that Garcia and for the most part, Colon did for NYYs, but, Garcia has almost no room for error any more and as they’ve seen over the years, guys like Garcia and Moyer can’t afford more than one mistake a game. I’d love to see him repeat this past season, but, have to think that the odds are against that. Hopefully I’m wrong because means things are going right in Yankeedom.
Divergence of opinion, I meant, not diversion. WV’s punt was the diversion.
The question, m, is why you think they take Nova out of the rotation before Hughes.
Two months ago the Yankees felt CC, Nova, and Freddy were their three best starters.
I don’t see why a few winter months would impact that depth chart.
I also think Garcia will be fine. He just has a knack for keeping the ball off the barrell of the bat. He has enough differential between his “fast” ball and his slow slow stuff to keep hitters off balance. Much like Mussina in his last year. I doubt Garcia will repeat his performance last year, but I wouldn’t expect much much worse.
Not looking at how they’re pitching at the time of removal from said rotation, it’s mostly salary based.
Yes, Nova won a ton of games for them this year. But Hughes has done the same when he was healthy in 2010.
If Hughes is has a clean shoulder and pitching like his old self, I fully expect him to be in the rotation.
The Bobby V lovefest has begun.
We’re talking about going into Spring Training and moving towards Opening Day, right?
So if they get CJ Wilson, for example, Nova is dropped in favor in Phil Hughes?
Big difference between Garcia and the 2008 Mussina is that nobody had ever seen Mussina pitch that way before…..especially inside. Garcia has been pitching like this for a few years now, although it was in the Central Division or NL.
Nova is going nowhere. He’s their second best pitcher
I believe so. If CJ Wilson is in camp, and neither of AJ, Hughes, or Nova is traded away, then I would say it’s CC/CJ/AJ/Garcia/Hughes. Nova to AAA for depth. I could be (very) wrong, especially since Girardi basically said Nova would never go down again. But, I do believe if Hughes is healthy and pitching well in ST, he will be in the opening day rotation.
If they sign CJ, I think Cash looks to deal AJ or Hughes I’m order to open a rotation spot and offset CJ’s salary a bit.
If they add a starter then either AJ, Hughes, or Garcia will be out…..either they’ll trade one of them or Hughes will go to the pen…..my guess is one of them gets traded.
Nova’s not going to AAA unless he regresses. He’s earned a rotation spot as long as he pitches well.
Looks like I’m way off base. Just forget I said anything.
Carry on.
They could likely trade Garcia pretty easily I would think if they needed/wanted to…..especially once ST starts and teams have injuries….
.in the event of a starter being added though by far the best thing would be to trade AJ if possible.
I also believe Garcia is inevitably going to take a bit of a step back. He exceeded everyone’s expectations in 2011.
Doesn’t mean he can’t help them win games in 2012 but I think he’ll have less room for error so the Yankee offense is going to have to score more runs for him.
m December 1st, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Not looking at how they’re pitching at the time of removal from said rotation, it’s mostly salary based.
Yes, Nova won a ton of games for them this year. But Hughes has done the same when he was healthy in 2010.
If Hughes is has a clean shoulder and pitching like his old self, I fully expect him to be in the rotation.
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There is a very big difference between the two. Nova was much more consistent through the course of the year–if anything, Nova got better as the year progressed. Hughes had a big first half in 2010, and pitched to a 5.9 ERA the remainder of the season. Even if Hughes gets off to a good start in 2012, it remains a distinct possibility that he will not be able to finish the season strong.
LGY….Freddy Garcia is a relatively inexpensive insurance policy…..I could easily see him ending up as the 6th starter / long relief guy…..I think the Yanks Front Office would prefer seeing Hughes & Nova in the rotation……Moving AJ could be on their wish list, makes me wonder what clubs are on the ok list to trade him to ???? GB, I had a good Thanksgiving and I hope you did as well…….It’s just hard to come to grips with the fact that Christmas is less than 4 weeks away….I did get my oversea gifts out several weeks ago for those who are stationed in a far away land……
yanks may like Wilson, but, not for another Burnett contract. If everyone does their job coming out of the chute, Garcia would be the easiest and most logical pitcher to move. Trading good, young and cheap pitching because there is an excess in the major league rotation makes zero sense.
Garcia gives the Yanks too much flexibility just to dump him. Cashman and Girardi know that it’s a long season, and a solid rotation needs at least six or seven pitchers. June’s hero may get injured or wilt down the stretch, and long reliever in May might be a key member of the rotation in September.
“Looks like I’m way off base. Just forget I said anything.”
Hmmm. You said “Nobody wants to hear it” in your original statement, a concession that what would follow might be controversial. I don’t think it’s so out there at all, but I’m not sure I agree, though I have in no way soured on the Young Master.
I agree that both Hughes has shown that he can have the same type of season that Nova had last year. But Nova did it more recently. I think his spot in the rotation going into the season is safer that Phil’s and maybe even safer than Freddy’s.
J. Alfred Prufrock December 1st, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Is the problem in the Yankee system or is it not having a clear plan on how to develop them once they reach the majors. It seems like they are always stuck in between. Let’s have Hughes start no relieve no start again and ofcourse we all know what happened with Joba. One highly touted prospect is on the dl and the other is realizing he’s on borrowed time. Hopefully the Bs make it ////
Free at last of Eiland, let’s see how they fare in the Rothschild era.
Unlike his predecessor, Rothschild appears to be an actual professional pitching coach.
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I like Larry he did a great job last yr. Can’t wait to see his impact on the Bs. Eiland is with the Royals right lol.
Freddy took a discount to stay here. He’s not doing that unless he gets the guarantee from Cash that he has a rotation spot.
Not to mention Cashman came out and said Freddy has a spot in the rotation next year.
Cash is not going to publicly lie and play games with a respected veteran free agent.
GreenBeret7 December 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
yanks may like Wilson, but, not for another Burnett contract. If everyone does their job coming out of the chute, Garcia would be the easiest and most logical pitcher to move. Trading good, young and cheap pitching because there is an excess in the major league rotation makes zero sense.
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Cashman seems pretty sensitive to the Yanks-buy-championships charge. I hink that he really wants to win with his kids. If the Yanks make a move to sign Wilson, it’ll be Steinbrenner’s doing. My guess is that Steinbrenner will be reticent to do so again, after the way Soriano worked out last year.
based on the info that’s out there and what people are saying…..I think Wilson is being undervalued and Buerle is being overvalued on the market…..and that’s not going on what the players are asking for but just what people are saying they are worth.
LGY December 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Freddy took a discount to stay here. He’s not doing that unless he gets the guarantee from Cash that he has a rotation spot.
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He got guaranteed $5 million. I rather doubt that Cashman guaranteed him a spot in the rotation.
“Not to mention Cashman came out and said Freddy has a spot in the rotation next year.”
It’s a process. and sh*t happens. Nobody is going to hold that against Cash.
@JackCurryYES Jack Curry
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he could never leave the YES broadcast booth.
Pat M.,
The troops will greatly appreciate the thoughts of the gifts. People have little idea just how many troops are overseas that have little or no family back in the States or how many come from destitute families. Nothing is worse than being that far away and never seeing a letter or package. Much of what is sent in packages can be purchased in PX’s, but, not the same thing as being from home. Churches, Legion and VFW posts and NG armories are great places to get names to these troops. Hopefully, more will follow your lead, Pat.
It doesn’t have to be a lot of money spent, just a book that most would like or crossword puzzles or a CD thrown in are welcome diversions. Chocolate in the summer is never a good idea, but, packing stuff in real popcorn is best…not the styrofoam type. Good packing material and good eating. Thanks for your thought, Bud.
It’s a process. and sh*t happens. Nobody is going to hold that against Cash.
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Then why not say I *expect* Freddy to be in the rotation next year like he has said about Nova, Hughes, and AJ.
Cashman has guaranteed rotation spots for CC and Freddy.
@BloggingBombers
Spoke with Joe Girardi today; he’s happy Garcia re-signed and said the veteran won’t have to compete for a rotation spot – he’s got one.
“Cash is not going to publicly lie and play games with a respected veteran free agent.”
Especially one who’s the honey in the King Felix trap.
LGY….Garcia will report to camp as a starter, however I wouldn’t go as far as you have and proclaim him being a lock come April…….As our old pal SJ used to say all the time, The NY Yankees are in the business of winning baseball games…….I think Cashman wants to beef up the rotation and get a young outfielder ……If he can buy a starter it frees him up to trade away some of his farm assets…..
“I think Cashman wants to beef up the rotation and get a young outfielder …”
who?
The problem with the Hughes/Chamberlain/Kennedy group was that they never had a chance to get 500-600 minor league innings in. Hughes had the most…a little over 300. all three came up because of team needs. They all should have had another 250-300 innings in and they didn’t get it. That’s where NYYs has the advantage now over before. They have depth and pitching to wait on the youngest of the kids. If the fans doen’t like it, too damned bad. it’s the proper way to develop pitchers.
If they are going to trade for an outfielder then it needs to be for somebody that a real upgrade over what they already have……If McCutchen is available then they should absolutely at least ask….same with Heyward….but both are going to cost an awful lot on the prospect end…..I can’t really think of anyone else.
A big part of me wants to agree with GB, Pat and GF that Freddy is more likely to lose some of his magic next year.
But I can’t help but think back on some of his starts and how smart he pitched. If something isn’t working he’s smart enough to reach into that bag of tricks and pull out something that will.
He’s a great guy to have around, starter- long guy whatever, he will earn that 5 mil.
“That’s where NYYs has the advantage now over before. They have depth and pitching to wait on the youngest of the kids”
I agree and I think/hope they learned from their previous experience with that group that came up a few years ago. Manny and Betances need to build their innings to a point where they are ready to step in and carry a major league work load…..
Tar December 1st, 2011 at 9:03 pm
A big part of me wants to agree with GB, Pat and GF that Freddy is more likely to lose some of his magic next year.
But I can’t help but think back on some of his starts and how smart he pitched. If something isn’t working he’s smart enough to reach into that bag of tricks and pull out something that will.
He’s a great guy to have around, starter- long guy whatever, he will earn that 5 mil.
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I think that Freddy will be fine. He did what he did last year with toughness and smarts, and he’ll still be smart and tough next year as well. His ERA may climb a bit north of 4.0, but he’ll compete, and give the Yanks a solid 12 wins, or more, if he stays healthy.
a 3.62 era is unlikely…..but a 4-ish ERA with a ton of quality starts is very doable for Freddy. He lost his stuff a long time ago and has figured out how to get guys out with what he has now for 2 years now. Really solid back end and clubhouse guy.
NYYs have young pitchers and young catchers to deal. I’m referring to Romine, not Montero. Cervelli has limited value on the open market except to a team in need. The problem there is he would be trade filler and Romine would be a hi-liter in a deal. Cervelli has more value to the Yanks than to most other teams. He’s not expected to be a front line starter in NY. They have near ready young pitching that teams like KC, ‘Zona, White Sox or Colorado could value, without including Betances or Banuelos.
Certainly Al East teams faced Garcia before and had plenty of game film to review. I don’t see anything different for this coming year. If he continues to hit his spots, he’ll be fine. He’s a frustrating pitcher to try to hit, and he knows how to pitch.
The only question is will Garcia continue to be effective if he loses another mile or 2 off of that fastball?
GreenBeret7 December 1st, 2011 at 9:11 pm
The only question is will Garcia continue to be effective if he loses another mile or 2 off of that fastball?
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As long as he can continue to hit his spots and tease hitters with that splitter of his, he will be effective. If he tries to compensate for lost velocity by throwing harder, and leaving balls over the plate as a result, he will killed.
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As long as he can continue to hit his spots and tease hitters with that splitter of his, he will be effective. If he tries to compensate for lost velocity by throwing harder, and leaving balls over the plate as a result, he will get killed.
Cashman is holding on to his assets. Some team could raid the chest, so to speak.
Any guesses to the next big trade for the involving real Yankee prospects?
I don’t get why some Yankee fans think Garcia is continually in danger of losing his spot in the rotation.
First he was going to get bumped when Hughes came back healthy, then he was getting moved at the trade deadline, after that he wasn’t making the playoff roster, and now he’s potentially a 6th starter/swing man next year.
Nothing the Yankees have done or said in the past year indicate Garcia’s spot in the rotation is anything but secure.
Nobody’s spot is guaranteed. Surely not a 5 million dollar insurance policy. He’s mediocre he’s on the bench.
I’m not against having Garcia in the rotation, but, if every one of the 6 main starters do well, he’s the easiest to move. Not much money involved to a gaining team and the Yanks don’t lose part of their future. at this point, neither Hughes nor Nova would bring back talent that is their equal and what they could provide over the next few years.
Cashman lies all the time anyway.
Cashman is sneaky. If he makes a trade, it will be clever and unpredictable. Who saw the Granderson deal coming? If I had to hazard a guess, I think Cashman will go after a young, athletic outfielder with the potential to be a high OPS guy, possibly somebody coming off a down year in a bad situation with his current club. If you can figure out who that guys is, then you’ll know who cash’s next target…
Nobody’s spot is guaranteed. Surely not a 5 million dollar insurance policy. He’s mediocre he’s on the bench.
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Of course. I meant out of ST his spot is guaranteed.
“I don’t get why some Yankee fans think Garcia is continually in danger of losing his spot in the rotation.”
Turn it around- why do you think he is such a lock for a spot, apparently no matter how well he pitches?
Nobody’s saying that Garcia is getting a rotation spot in perpetuity, but the question has been, if the Yanks get another starter who will be assured of his own spot to start the season, such as Wilson, Buehrle, Danks (not including Darvish for this exercise), who leaves the rotation to make room for him?
Managers and GMs that don’t keep their plans or disguise their plans don’t usually stay very successful or stay in one place very long. Why disclose a team weakness or need if you don’t have to?
Of course there’s always a kitchen knife accident in the wings …..
“who leaves the rotation to make room for him?”
6 man all year! jk….no really Girardi….I was just kidding.
Nick in SF December 1st, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Nobody’s saying that Garcia is getting a rotation spot in perpetuity, but the question has been, if the Yanks get another starter who will be assured of his own spot to start the season, such as Wilson, Buehrle, Danks (not including Darvish for this exercise), who leaves the rotation to make room for him?
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I think that the premise is flawed. I don’t see Cashman going after any of those guys. He is not going to do a sign and trade, and he isn’t going to go into a multi-year contract for a second-rate ace; he already did that with Burnett. However, if he does go after Wilson, I think that Burnett’s days are numbered.
Pat M,
who are some young outfielders you’d have in mind?
Never mind LGY you just answered. I think that’s fair out of ST Freddy is pretty much a sure bet for a starting spot.
“Yanks get another starter who will be assured of his own spot to start the season, such as Wilson, Buehrle, Danks (not including Darvish for this exercise), who leaves the rotation to make room for him?”
CC is a lock anybody else is open for discussion based on early performance.
Pat M. December 1st, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Of course there’s always a kitchen knife accident in the wings …..
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Tonya Harding
What happened to Colon? Did he sign with somebody already?
If Cashman adds a starter they have 4 options: 1) trade AJ (best option) 2) trade Garcia 3) trade Hughes 4) put one of options 1-3 in the pen.
Tar
Sorry for the confusion.
I don’t think that Hughes will go to the ‘pen unless he flops as a starter. It makes more sense to trade him, than trying to trade him, after demoting him.
If the Yankees get another starter AJ is gone.
If there were an outfielder to be traded out there that might require a 3 team deal, Adam Jones would be the perfect outfielder to pick up. since that isn’t likely to happen, I wouldn’t mind seeing Garrett Jones from Pittsburgh for a corner outfield and first base fill-in to team with andruw jones.
If the Yankees get another starter AJ is gone.
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Hard to imagine the Yankees paying $20M + for Burnett to pitch for another team.
I’m not sure how much better Adam Jones is than what they have and he’s a FA in 2 years……
Paying AJ 20 million to pitch for another team would be better than paying him 33 million to pitch for the Yankees…..
Adam jones or Granderson in right field over Swisher? I’ll take Jones to replace Swisher in a year or 2. He won’t be 27 until July.
Paying AJ 20 million to pitch for another team would be better than paying him 33 million to pitch for the Yankees…
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Maybe. Won’t get anything for him even while paying the money. Hasn’t been Cashman’s style, especially in recent years. You never know though.
Paying him $20 mil to pitch somewhere else and getting very little back in return? why?
I’d rather have Swisher I think…..especially since you’d have to trade for Jones. Jones is a FA after 2013 also.
Logan Morrison fits the profile of what I think Cashman would pursue: young, relatively cheap, high OBP guy with some pop. Prado is coming off a down year, looks like he could fit the bill, and is a righty. Upton or Makakis are possibilities.
“Paying him $20 mil to pitch somewhere else and getting very little back in return? why?”
to save 13 million dollars and so that someone better than him can be in the rotation.
if you sign Wilson for say 15 million per year….then trade AJ (eating 20 million)…..then Wilson’s salary for 2012 and 2013 becomes more like 8.5 million because you’re saving 13 million from AJ over those 2 years.
And then they are stuck with Wilson for another 3 years and right where they are now…paying another team to take Wilson.