Nakajima rights become official
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 07, 2011 
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Just finished having lunch with Joe Girardi, an annual event at the Winter Meetings. It’s a very informal thing for beat writers and managers. We honestly talked more about Bryan Hoch running the New York City marathon than anything to do with the Yankees.
Girardi’s official media session is in a half hour. That’s when we’ll ask more about the team itself, including the possibility of a new utility man.
Major League Baseball just made it official that the Yankees won the right to negotiate with Hiroyuki Nakajima. Here’s the short release:
The Seibu Lions of Japan’s Pacific League have informed Major League Baseball that they have accepted the highest bid for the negotiating rights to 29-year-old shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima, it was announced today. The highest bid in the posting process was submitted by the New York Yankees.
The Yankees now have a period of 30 consecutive days to sign Nakajima to a Major or Minor League professional contract.
“As long as this new Japanese shortstop doesnt take the field with SHADES on im good.”
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you’re soo funny SoS.
wzup!
I bet teams are hot for Eduardo Nunez. He’s a potential starting shortstop with speed and pop. He’s likely on the trade block.
Gordon Edes @GordonEdes
White Sox,Red Sox meeting on Danks,Floyd
11 minutes ago via Echofon
why does Harold Reynolds (and others) continue to emphasize Hanley Ramirez is a shortstop? Based on what Marlin fans have said the past 2 years, he makes Jeter look like Ozzie Smith
Marlins should trade him to a team, for pitching. And then move him to the OF
DKnobler
While Phillies tried for Gio, they’re def out now. Never planned to trade Hamels. Would have dealt Kendrick or Blanton.
1 hour ago via
makes you wonder if nunez+hughes+romine would get a gio deal done. overpaying? eh, maybe a little.
I wonder if the Rays would trade James Shields for Hanley Ramirez.
@OzzieGuillen: Please don’t worrie about hanley ramirez he is my man to kick some butt
no Pujols news yet?
@JimBowdenESPNxm
Fredi Gonzalez just told us that the rumors involving Jurrjens and Prado are true because they really need another impact bat
I have to go up to Tampa next week, we are meeting the daughter for lunch. Wondered if anyone had any resturant recommendations around Legends?
no Gio Gonzalez. No Danks. No CJ Wilson. No Burhle.
either Matt Garza. Or roll the dice with Darvish (posting fee doesn’t apply to lux tax).
the end.
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If the White Sox are checking on the Red Sox, Kenny Williams has resorted to dumpster diving.
Any trade for Gio starts with Jesus Montero…..
pat m – and promptly ends right there.
“Any trade for Gio starts with Jesus Montero…..”
Hang up…..and I like Gio
Cashman already said that Montero won’t supplant Martin
Girardi already said he wants to give A-Rod, Jeter, Cano, Grandy more DH time
Writing on the wall when it comes to Montero. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gardner is not here next year either. Nunez certainly won’t be with his value this winter.
GreenBeret7 December 7th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
If the White Sox are checking on the Red Sox, Kenny Williams has resorted to dumpster diving.
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Danks for Dubront, Bowden and Lavarnway
vinny-b……One last time, it’s still over a 100 million dollar investment…..$ 100,000,000.00….count the zeros for a guy who has never pitched in The MLB…..
i vote yes on jesus for gio. you have to remember here people wouldnt give up joba for anyone short of king felix when he was at jesus’s stage.
pat m – and promptly ends right there.
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yes, Irreverent Discourse. Unless Price, Kershaw, Felix Hernandez, etc is coming back, Montero doesn’t go anywhere
EA December 7th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Cashman already said that Montero won’t supplant Martin
Girardi already said he wants to give A-Rod, Jeter, Cano, Grandy more DH time
Writing on the wall when it comes to Montero. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gardner is not here next year either. Nunez certainly won’t be with his value this winter.
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Montero will DH 7 of ten games
Martin will catch 7 of ten games
Montero will catch 3 of ten tames
Alex/Jeter will DH 3 of ten games
That quote from Cashman is being taken out of context……I heard the interview….he said he wouldn’t supplant Montero THIS year…..and he said that amongst other ravings about him……didn’t sound at all like the are open to moving him. Called him the best best to.come from Latin America since Miguel Cabrera.
What do the Red Sox have to get Danks +/- Floyd? They are as bare as can be.
Interesting move to bid for the shortstop. Wait until they bid for Yu next week…
Any trade for Gio starts with Jesus Montero
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Which is why Yu won’t be seeing Gio in pinstripes.
Martin I mean.
To give up Montero for Gio Gonzales says that Gio Gonzales = Cliff Lee. Are you sure you want to go around proposing that?
EA December 7th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Cashman already said that Montero won’t supplant Martin
Girardi already said he wants to give A-Rod, Jeter, Cano, Grandy more DH time
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He probably meant this year. Especially since as of now they only control Martin for one more year.
A little more DH time for others still fits in when Montero catches, which should be at least 40+ games.
Ivan Nova = Gio Gonzales.
Hector Noesi likely = Gio Gonzales.
And the Yankees want Gio Gonzales why?
Pat M:
hey, unlike many, am definitely not on the frontline for Darvish. However, i like the option better then majority of other ones being proposed. Aside from a Matt Garza trade
i dont go around in circles like that, right now i’d trade jesus for gio if i dont have to give any bigger pieces. we need pitching help more than another bat and gozalez is a proven major leaguer whereas jesus is still a prospect and certainly looks to be only a dh.
Pat M
Yankees wasted $50 million or so (post plus salary) on Kei Igawa.
Yankees wasted $39 million on Carl Pavano.
As long as the salary cap hit is under $8 million per year, I don’t think they care about the rest of the $$$$.
“Ivan Nova = Gio Gonzales. Hector Noesi likely = Gio Gonzales.
And the Yankees want Gio Gonzales why?”
Well that’s not exactly true…..but the price is too high.
Larry Bowa is funny…..6 years for CJ Wilson, what are they going to give Hamel, 60 years ????
Plus, Jeter should not be DH’ing unless he is hitting like old (young) Jeter, he should just get the full day off.
Ken_Rosenthal 11 mins Source: #Nationals, #Marlins finalists for Buehrle. And if Marlins get C.J., that seemingly would leave Buehrle for Nats. #MLB
Ys Guy December 7th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
i dont go around in circles like that, right now i’d trade jesus for gio if i dont have to give any bigger pieces. we need pitching help more than another bat and gozalez is a proven major leaguer whereas jesus is still a prospect and certainly looks to be only a dh.
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I feel the same way. If Gio is going to cost Montero, I don’t want to give up any other marquee prospects in that deal. I would even hesitate to include Eduardo Nunez – but would include him reluctantly. Beyond those 2 players, I’d be offering filler. If Beane doesn’t like Montero enough to accept that proposal, then someone else will and we can take a stab at another trade for a pitcher.
and of course what goes without saying is that all these plans are subject to injury – Martin missed a big chunk of time last year – so did Alex – so did Jeter.
If Martin has to sit again – which he probably will – Montero NOT CERVELLI – will be the catcher (if I’m wrong about that Girardi better sleep with both eyes open)
Ivan Nova = Gio Gonzalez in the AL East. And why are the Yankees trading Jesus Montero?
“And the Yankees want Gio Gonzales why?”
Because Gio is the hottest chick at the bar…surrounded by ugly chicks.
blake
“Well that’s not exactly true…..but the price is too high.”
Check out the splits and peripherals of both of them on ESPN. Gio benefits from the Oakland cave of a ballpark as well. Not sure the upgrade (if any) is worth the price
Darvish is wearing too much makeup at that same bar. You wake up in the morning and wonder why…never mind.
Because Gio is the hottest chick at the bar…surrounded by ugly chicks.
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They should probably go to the local library and pickup the hot foreign exchange chick.
viewing MLB network.
why should Mets have made an offer on Reyes???
it was made clear he was going for the highest dollars $$$$$$$$$.
these players and their egos. A joke
Sandy Anderson is a smart guy and I think he knows what he’s doing…..but with the way the rest of the NL east is spending money they are being buried further and further down the standings…….with the new CBA this is a hole that coukd take years to dig out of.
Seems like CJ Wilson will end up with the Angels.
They’ll have Weaver, Wilson, Haren, and whomever else. Enough to take the division back from the Rangers.
I think the Rangers’ pitching will take a big hit this season. It’s way too unstable. Makes it more critical for the Yankees to win the division. Don’t want to be facing any good WC teams in a 1-game playoff.
hey, listen, i love jesus montero, its not that i dont like him, i just think gonzalez would fill the yankees biggest hole. You dont get quality without giving up quality and gio is quality.
this board has been notoritous for its prospect hugging since i’ve been around (since before the twins traded johan) there’s nothing wrong with that, im usually a prospect hugger myself, but in this case, i think gonzalez is the right guy and more of a need than jesus. i’m certainly not going to be mad if they turn down that trade, i’d just prefer they make it.
Because Gio is the hottest chick at the bar…surrounded by ugly chicks.
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They should probably go to the local library and pickup the hot foreign exchange chick.
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Well that would be the smart thing to do.
. “And why are the Yankees trading Jesus Montero?”
They aren’t…..
Ys Guy,
Same here.
“Check out the splits and peripherals of both of them on ESPN. Gio benefits from the Oakland cave of a ballpark as well. Not sure the upgrade (if any) is worth the price”
The price is the issue…..I like both Nova and Noesi but neither are as good as Gio Gonzalez right now. The price he’s asking is crazy though and there’s no way id include Montero.
m December 7th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Seems like CJ Wilson will end up with the Angels.
They’ll have Weaver, Wilson, Haren, and whomever else. Enough to take the division back from the Rangers.
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Ervin Santana.
When you have a hitter like Jesus Montero who you can build a lineup around for the next 10 years, it’s not prospect hugging to want to keep him instead of trading him for a likely #3 starter.
some Yankee prospect notes:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....97372-1038
Not every scout thinks you can built a lineup around Montero for 10 years. Not every scout thinks of Gio as a #3 starter.
Some scouts see Montero as a man without a position. Some scouts see Gio as a potential ace or a solid #2 which is something the Yankees need and something that is harder to find on the open market than offense.
Marc Carig
Girardi says there would be room for both Nakajima and Nunez on roster.
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Carig saying Girardi saying that there’s room for both Nunez & Nakajima on the roster. I guess that makes Nunez the 4th OF.
Yanks have an aging lineup with lack of impact bats at the higher minor league levels. Be sensible. Trading away Montero would be foolish.
This hard-on for Gio Gonzalez has to stop.
Buster_ESPN:
Source: Hanley Ramirez’s rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley
#ruhroh
its fine to want to keep jesus, but don’t try to sell anyone who knows baseball on hector noesi or ivan nova being equal to gio gonzalez. if you think jesus is more valuable, thats fine, but dismissing gonzalez as a #3 undermines your credibility.
joba was never where montero is now. joba was never supposed to be good, he got overhyped because of 17 relief innings.
You can build a lineup around Montero’s bat. Just a question of where he plays.
Pat M. December 7th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Larry Bowa is funny…..6 years for CJ Wilson, what are they going to give Hamel, 60 years ????
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In the same piece on MLB network, Harold Reynolds ranting at the Mariners for not trading King Felix. And Reynolds is former Mariner. #Herewegoagain
“Not every scout thinks you can built a lineup around Montero for 10 years”
Most think he has that potential……im no prospect hugger but you can see it with this kid…..you can see the bat speed…..the swing plane…..the plate coverage. He’s legit.
dismissing gonzalez as a #3 undermines your credibility.
Why? If he’s any higher than #3 in your rotation you need better starters.
m December 7th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Carig saying Girardi saying that there’s room for both Nunez & Nakajima on the roster.
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25 or 40?
joba was never where montero is now. joba was never supposed to be good, he got overhyped because of 17 relief innings.
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Uh? What? Joba was a huge prospect that destroyed the entire minor leagues.
I’d trade for Hanley and make him DH.
Pick your poison… either give up good prospects to get a young pitcher with minimal financial risk
or sign a FA pitcher without surrendering any prospects, but allotting big $$ and a guaranteed rotation spot for at least 60% of the life of the contact minimum.
Jobas problems were always that he would be injury prone.
Trade Nunez and Phelps for Hanley…..is that too much?
@Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source: Hanley Ramirez’s rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley (more).
Hehehehehe, Nilsson said hard-on…hehehehehehe… carry on!
didn’t sound at all like the are open to moving him. Called him the best best to.come from Latin America since Miguel Cabrera.
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Right, & he’d look pretty foolish trading away the “next” Cabrera, by his own definition. I’m not going to worry about this one.
Prior to 2007 Joba was never ranked higher than 4th in the yankee system and #75 on BA… that’s nothing compared to the hype surrounding Montero.
Miami Marlins sign Reyes + Miami Marlins lose Hanley Ramirez
net gain for Miami Marlins offense = 0
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jacksquat December 7th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Buster_ESPN:
Source: Hanley Ramirez’s rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley
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Horsepoop – just turn to Hanley and say, “Play 3b or retire – choice is yours”
Buster Olney
If the Marlins can trade Hanley and his salary — he’s owed $46 million over the next three seasons–their hope is to use that $ on Fielder.
via web
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Phil Hughes + for Hanley !
Would Hanley play RF for the Yankees if he wont play 3B for the fish?
Because Hughes has proven he is a a stud right? This ain’t 2006 Trenton anymore
And Burnett has “nasty stuff” and is a great #2 right?
Nova and his 5 Ks per 9 and 1-1.5 BB/K ratio screams #2 starter right?
Gio Gonzalez is significantly better than any of these guys, stuff-wise, durability-wise, and reliability. I can pencil Gio in for 200 above average innings with lots of strikeouts. What can I pencil in Hughes for? throwing 88 in the 4th inning and flucuating stuff? What about Burnett? I can pencil him in for his 5 ERA and blown leads right? Nova, who I actually like, should be sold high.
People are simply talking themselves into the fact that the rotation is fine.
Blake,
Hanley could start DH, cover 3b, ss and RF
Ramirez for Wright + ?
Lol Marlins aren’t going to just give Hanley away
jacksquat,
25. I’m sure there are better 4th OF on the 40 than Nunez!
As I said – sign Prince sign Betemit – trade Hanley to the Mariners for King Felix.
Joba what could have been
if hanley is going to pout and demand a trade b/c he’s being moved off SS, how do you think he’s gonna feel about being made a DH?
Bret The Hitman December 7th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Blake,
Hanley could start DH, cover 3b, ss and RF
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They don’t need a DH.
“Would Hanley play RF for the Yankees if he wont play 3B for the fish?”
Hanley loves Girardi from everything that was said. Also said Jeter is his idol.
I have a feeling he will be much more team-oriented here than in FLA
if hanley is going to pout and demand a trade b/c he’s being moved off SS, how do you think he’s gonna feel about being made a DH?
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then he can move to the OF. The choice is his
yanks 27 December 7th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
“Would Hanley play RF for the Yankees if he wont play 3B for the fish?”
Hanley loves Girardi from everything that was said. Also said Jeter is his idol.
I have a feeling he will be much more team-oriented here than in FLA
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Excellent points.
Hanley for DH.
Montero for Gio.
Hanley to SS and move Jeter to RF.
Seriously, is Montero much of an upgrade over Hanley Ramirez?
Jeter didn’t want to move off short for A-rod ….he’s not going to move off short for Hanley.
Montero for Gio.
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You mean Montero plus
jonmorosi
Nolan Ryan just told me he expects CJ Wilson and Mark Buehrle to sign with someone other than #Rangers.
jonmorosi
#Nats are out on C.J. Wilson.
jacksquat December 7th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Ramirez for Wright + ?
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That would actually be amazing.
Although it would end my dream of Wright coming to the Yankees
Billy: You have to include Montero.
Brian: I’m walking away.
If I were Cash, I’d talk to Girardi about Hanley. Ya never know, and I’d take his opinion on the type of player and clubhouse presence Hanley is, rather than media reports and reputation.
Seriously, you want Hanley to DH at 15+ mil each of the next 3 years, plus whatever it costs to trade for him, over Montero at minimum wage, when Montero could very easily hit as well and likely better than Ramirez?
Excellent points.
Hanley for DH.
Montero for Gio.
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This might be a good move. ‘Cept Hanley’s a primadona. Though he is proven and can presumably play better defense. ATM, both Montero and Hanley would be without true positions on the Yankees.
Hanley would be a pretty good candidate for a change of scenery. He wouldn’t dare act up with Jeter and Alex in the clubhouse.
Rangers better hope Feliz can start. They also might wind up overpaying for Ed Jackson.
PittsburghYankeeFan December 7th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
When you have a hitter like Jesus Montero who you can build a lineup around for the next 10 years, it’s not prospect hugging to want to keep him instead of trading him for a likely #3 starter.
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Um, yes. I am in a state of stunned amazement that there is even one Yankee fan who doesn’t comprehend that Montero’s bat is not a luxury. Stunning that this even needs to be stated, but there you have it.
# vinny-b December 7th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
if hanley is going to pout and demand a trade b/c he’s being moved off SS, how do you think he’s gonna feel about being made a DH?
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then he can move to the OF. The choice is his
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He wants to play short nothing else.
I really think Hanley for Felix Hernandez makes a ton of sense for both teams.
Money matches up, Mariners get a tremendous offensive upgrade to their team, Marlins wind up with Felix and Johnson at the top of their rotation.
Young star for young star.
Really confusing that anyone who watched Montero in september/october thinks the Yankees should trade him.
He wants to play short nothing else.
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No. He wants to play SS for the Marlins.
as for other respective teams, you’re only making this assumption
# J. Alfred Prufrock December 7th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
PittsburghYankeeFan December 7th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
When you have a hitter like Jesus Montero who you can build a lineup around for the next 10 years, it’s not prospect hugging to want to keep him instead of trading him for a likely #3 starter.
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Um, yes. I am in a state of stunned amazement that there is even one Yankee fan who doesn’t comprehend that Montero’s bat is not a luxury. Stunning that this even needs to be stated, but there you have it.
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I could understand if ppl we’re talking about Felix or Halladay(a couple of yrs ago) but Gio. I like him and would be excited if the Yanks acquired him but not for Jesus.
I should have added – as part of talking to Girardi, I’d scout out his agent re: Hanley playing OF. That might free up – not Montero – but Swish, to deal for Hamel.
I’m sure the Phillies could use a prime, switch hitting, 1B/OF. Howard’s out, Utley is getting old fast, and Ibanez is gone. They need a bat, unless they plan on having a record-setting number of 1-0 shutout wins.
“Seriously, is Montero much of an upgrade over Hanley Ramirez?”
Was just going to ask this question. What are the realistic chances that Montero is a better offensive player than Hanley for his career? Hanley is already a batting champion, 4-time all-star (in his 6 year career), a guy who will hit around 30 HRs (and more in this division with all the small parks) and is a lock to steal 30+ bases.
Hanley had a 7.4 and 7.5 WAR in 09 and 10. To put that in perspective, Miguel Cabrera has never had a war higher than 7.3 (this year).
you guys are ignoring the huge hole in the front end of the rotration. no good bat is a luxury, but neither is an excellent pitcher, especially a young one under control. its not stunning that anyone would consider moving a dh prospect for a proven and improving young pitcher on a team that really really needs pitching help.
Jerkface December 7th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Really confusing that anyone who watched Montero in september/october thinks the Yankees should trade him.
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Depends on what you’re getting back for him.
# vinny-b December 7th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
He wants to play short nothing else.
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No. He wants to play SS for the Marlins.
as for other respective teams, you’re only making this assumption
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So you honestly believe he would be traded to another team and be told you’re not playing SS here either.
“you want Hanley to DH at 15+ mil each of the next 3 years”
I want him to play SS.
Why hasn’t Swish been in any of the trade proposals on here? It seems like we’ve gotten rid of Gardner 100 times already but no one has any creative ideas for Swish?
(Disclaimer: I’m not advising a Swisher trade since I dunno that for his price you can find that type of production but does anyone think he can be packaged for something useful?)
Hanley is not getting traded guys.
jcrasnick I’m hearing that C.J. Wilson’s decision is pretty much down to the #Angels and #Marlins
Joe from Long Island December 7th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
I should have added – as part of talking to Girardi, I’d scout out his agent re: Hanley playing OF. That might free up – not Montero – but Swish, to deal for Hamel.
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THAT’S more like it. Thank you for reading my mind lol.
Shame Spencer December 7th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Why hasn’t Swish been in any of the trade proposals on here? It seems like we’ve gotten rid of Gardner 100 times already but no one has any creative ideas for Swish?
(Disclaimer: I’m not advising a Swisher trade since I dunno that for his price you can find that type of production but does anyone think he can be packaged for something useful?)
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Because (at least in my suggestions) the team I’m trading with is a smaller budget team and so Brett Gardner, making less than $1mil, has a higher value than Swisher who is making 10 mil now and is a FA after the season.
Really confusing that anyone who watched Montero in september/october thinks the Yankees should trade him.”
For real …..
Ken_Rosenthal
#Marlins prez Samson: Hanley did not ask for contract to be restructured. Hanley not getting traded. Hanley critical part of team. #MLB
@clarkspencer
Agent for H. Ramirez did not ask #Marlins for restructured contract and team is NOT exploring trades for him. “Not even close,” source said.
LGY December 7th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Hanley is not getting traded guys.
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Agreed.
Marlins should (and likely will) just tell him that his options are:
1. Play
2. Retire and walk away from his contract.
“So you honestly believe he would be traded to another team and be told you’re not playing SS here either”
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I believe chances are Hanley Ramirez gets traded to another team, and plays a postition other then SS.
because the general consensus is Hanley sucks at shortstop. And he’s getting bigger
“Hanley is not getting traded guys.”
No soup for Yu
gozalez is a proven major leaguer whereas jesus is still a prospect and certainly looks to be only a dh.
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pitchers are too fragile.
what if gio winds up being aj burnett?
hitters are easier to judge than pitchers..
Twitter has ruined the offseason.
blake December 7th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Really confusing that anyone who watched Montero in september/october thinks the Yankees should trade him.”
For real …..
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and not that I think this is the case – but remember there was a September/October where Shane Spencer looked like Babe Ruth.
BTX – Gio Gonzalez and his 4+ BB/9 really screams “realiable” to you?
MarcCarig Girardi was interesting on Montero. He wants to have him develop behind the plate but stayed clear of giving a sense of how often he’d catch
They’ll have Weaver, Wilson, Haren, and whomever else. Enough to take the division back from the Rangers.
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not if the rangers get Prince.
BTX December 7th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
“Seriously, is Montero much of an upgrade over Hanley Ramirez?”
Was just going to ask this question. What are the realistic chances that Montero is a better offensive player than Hanley for his career? Hanley is already a batting champion, 4-time all-star (in his 6 year career), a guy who will hit around 30 HRs (and more in this division with all the small parks) and is a lock to steal 30+ bases.
Hanley had a 7.4 and 7.5 WAR in 09 and 10. To put that in perspective, Miguel Cabrera has never had a war higher than 7.3 (this year).
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Again, Ramirez costs 15mil/year for the next 3 years, Montero costs around minimum wage. That should end the discussion right there. Montero certainly has the ability to hit as well or even better than Ramirez.
And Hanley had WAR’s of 7.4 and 7.5 in 08 and 09, not 09 and 10. And in 10 and 11 he had WAR’s of 4.6 and 1.3.
Chip – I’m not saying I don’t understand the value of Gardner vs. Swisher when you take everything into account, what I’m saying is I think Swisher has good value for his production (and more hitting power/ability than Gardner – different skill sets, yes, but Swish despite his flaws is a better offensive player) so I’m just surprised given all the venom in October re: Swish that no one has found a creative way to move him lol.
I think you’re right, Gardner’s value is higher because he’s dirt cheap and provides gold glove defense with serious speed… but I like Gardner better lol. Make me smile and trade Swish
just like Tebow cant QB in the NFL, ppl are giving up on Montero as a catcher?
good/great hitting catchers are impossible to find and we are ready to trade one away?
“and not that I think this is the case – but remember there was a September/October where Shane Spencer looked like Babe Ruth.”
It has nothing to do with what he did…..it was the process of how he did it. Those Cabrera comparisons aren’t exaggerated based on his swing and bat speed and ability to make solid contact.
sandusky on 250k cash bail…trish will like that.
blake is right!!! This has nothing to do with the great and highly respected Shane Spencer!!
New post —->
I remember an October where Cody Ross became the best hitter in the league. Looking at less than 1000 at-bats for any player is pointless.
never had a idea that a hitter could be great? i remember when i first saw mattingly…knew he was a can’t miss.
Against All Odds December 7th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
# J. Alfred Prufrock December 7th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
PittsburghYankeeFan December 7th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
When you have a hitter like Jesus Montero who you can build a lineup around for the next 10 years, it’s not prospect hugging to want to keep him instead of trading him for a likely #3 starter.
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Um, yes. I am in a state of stunned amazement that there is even one Yankee fan who doesn’t comprehend that Montero’s bat is not a luxury. Stunning that this even needs to be stated, but there you have it.
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I could understand if ppl we’re talking about Felix or Halladay(a couple of yrs ago) but Gio. I like him and would be excited if the Yanks acquired him but not for Jesus.
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Odds, I get what you’re saying, but I’m not trading this dude for anyone, unless I’m getting a super position player with a comparable offensive pedigree. The lineup is what needs remaking – the pitching is potentially good and in a year or two, it’s very good. We have no bats that can just move into the lineup and be dominant mid-order types. What seems lost is that he’s not just “a bat”, his talent is extraordinary.
blake December 7th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
“and not that I think this is the case – but remember there was a September/October where Shane Spencer looked like Babe Ruth.”
It has nothing to do with what he did…..it was the process of how he did it. Those Cabrera comparisons aren’t exaggerated based on his swing and bat speed and ability to make solid contact.
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Nothing to do with it, but if you don’t appreciate the difference in quality between Shane Spencer and Jesus Montero (statistics aside), then you could reach a false conclusion that the latter is expendable, which I think is happening.