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Yankees take right hander in Rule 5

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 08, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

In this morning’s Rule 5 draft, the Yankees took RHP Brad Meyers from the Nationals.

The Yankees lost no one.

The Braves took Robert Fish, the same guy the Yankees drafted in last year’s Rule 5.

UPDATE, 10:23 a.m.: There’s a report from Kansas City that the Royals have traded their pick, LHP Cesar Cabral out of the Red Sox system, to the Yankees.

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205 Responses to “Yankees take right hander in Rule 5”

  1. Benny Blanco December 8th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    wow, if the angels get wilson too it could get interesting.

  2. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    They’ll probably shop Trumbo for a pitcher now.

  3. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Well, I was certainly wrong about the Angels. Crazy.

  4. Benny Blanco December 8th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    IF the angels get wilson they could be a thorn in the yankees rear end again.

  5. Phranchise December 8th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Shop Trumbo to the Cards and really stick it to them.

    At the end Big AL will DH and because of that and the length of this deal it makes far more sense he is in the AL than the NL.

    How long before Carpenter is dealt from the Cards and they go in full rebuild mode????

  6. ac1 December 8th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    guess i was wrong about the all talk stuff.

  7. Phranchise December 8th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Doubt Angels land Wilson now. I think Wilson will be on the Nationals in the end anyway.

  8. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    “Well, I was certainly wrong about the Angels. Crazy.”

    Me too…but that contract will be ugly at the back end and the Angels can’t/wont absorb it the way the Yanks can. It definitely changed their lineup though.

  9. pat December 8th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    BrentSGambill
    A Houston @Astros fan in our office just screamed, “Pujols just will NOT leave us alone!” #fb

    :smile:

  10. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    My guess is the Angels back off Wilson and trade Trumbo or Morales for a SP…..

  11. spidanyc December 8th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    I guess noboy has learned from the AROD contract, but with that said, I roll the dice with Pujols over AROD anyday.

  12. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    If the Rollins deal isn’t done it’ll be interesting to see if the Cards jump back in on him now.

  13. pat December 8th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    From Bob Dutton- Royals beat writer…….Royals pick LHP Cesar Cabral from Boston in Rule 5 draft and trade him to Yankees for cash

  14. upstate kate December 8th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    WOW that is a surprise. I thought the Angels were just attempting to appease their fans by appearing to be in contention.

  15. Ys Guy December 8th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    there goes the statue…

  16. Joe from Long Island December 8th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Wow. Nothing else to say. I’m surprised that the Angels actually did something besides sign over the hill OFs. They’re not done, as they will likely move Trumbo. Maybe to the Phils, who could use a young bat who can also play 1B. When Howard comes back, whenever that is, they could then flip Trumbo for their in-season needs.

    Re: Darvish – This is where someone in Yankee-scouting needs to put his/her name on something, as they make a decision whether or not Darvish is worth a whole lot of $$$$. Also, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the prices on Danks, Floyd, Gio start to come down. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cash uses the threat of going after Darvish to beat some other GMs around the head and neck.

  17. Phranchise December 8th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Next year Angels could technically add three big offensive pieces. Morales back from injury. Big AL and then Trout.

  18. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    This is crazier than the Arod deal imo.

  19. champ809 December 8th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Just hoping the Yanks hold their heads and don’t do something dumb like trade Montero to Oak for Gio F-ing Gonzalez…

  20. yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Intentionally walk him every time up.

  21. champ809 December 8th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    I disagree about Pujols I think for the next 5-7 years he makes them perennial championship favs

  22. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    “This is crazier than the Arod deal imo.”

    Way crazier than the first one…..probably crazier than the 2nd also because the Angels can’t absorb money like the Yankees can and also because I think Albert is older than Alex was.

  23. BTX December 8th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    “This is crazier than the Arod deal imo.”

    Not really— Pujols is younger, in better shape, and is an overall better player. Even when his power starts to diminish, he will still have a high average, OBP, and hit doubles.

    Unless we find out he was on steroids (like we found out with A-rod after signing the deal), I don’t think his body will abandoned him like it has A-Rod.

  24. coney1 December 8th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    For what it’s worth, Incarcerated Bob is tweeting that the Yankees are now in on Prince Fielder. I’m always very skeptical with him, but he has been right a bunch of times this offseason.

  25. BTX December 8th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Cards need to go after Fielder on the “cheap” here— offer whatever they gave to Albert and give it to Fielder

  26. yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    “For what it’s worth, Incarcerated Bob is tweeting that the Yankees are now in on Prince Fielder. I’m always very skeptical with him, but he has been right a bunch of times this offseason.”

    If they trade Montero for a bat then it ain’t the worst idea in the world to plug in Fielder at DH. Would make the lineup potent

  27. MoRings42 December 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    10 years no trade clause at $250 Million plus? lol

    It’s also at the beginning of HGH testing.

    That Arod contract no longer looks like the worst in history. The Rangers have to be laughing at this one.

  28. champ809 December 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Trout
    Aybar
    Pujols
    Kendry
    Torii
    Trumbo
    Kendrick
    Ianetta
    Bourjos

    They could do this if they have Pujols play 3B which he’s capable of for at least a couple years

  29. ron December 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    No way the yankees add fielder.

  30. Mike Ri December 8th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    No way the yankees add fielder.

    —————-

    i agree . .but could you imagine him mashing at Yankee Stadium . …………. Damn … nice to dream

  31. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    The Angels getting Pujols is GOOD PR and BAD on the field. Now they have the ageing Wells, Tori Hunter, AND Pujols. The Angels are a Bad Team, an Old Team, and outside of Weaver, got Nothing to look forward to. They suffered a serious emotional and organizational set-back when that extremely young and talented SP tragically died via a drunk driver. They continued their downward plunge and were totally Humiliated with the Napoli\Wells deal. And NOW, Moreno goes on TILT and absolutely hamstrings the organization with another HUGE contract to an ageing player at a position where they actually did have youth and promise. Believe it or not, Moreno just out-dumbed the Dodgers.

  32. Shame Spencer December 8th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    I only like the idea of Fielder on our team because I’d like to see him standing next to CC and Colon as often as possible. …but something tells me incarcerated bob was hitting the objective pipe this morning.

  33. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Not really— Pujols is younger, in better shape, and is an overall better player. Even when his power starts to diminish, he will still have a high average, OBP, and hit doubles.

    ———-

    Arod was 32 when signed his deal. Same as Pujols.

    Also Alex had no injury concerns at the time, unlike Albert who injuries last season. Alex was considered maybe the hardest working and one of the most physically gifted players in baseball.

  34. pat December 8th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    “Not really— Pujols is younger, in better shape, and is an overall better player”

    Hindsight is 20/20 but Pujols is same age, not in better shape and not a better overall player than Alex was coming off the 2007 season when Alex signed the contract.

  35. NJ Pete December 8th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Yanks just added 2 rule 5 guys but only 1 open 40 man slot. someone has to go.

  36. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Arod was better when he signed both his contracts than Pujols is now.

  37. Joe from Long Island December 8th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Signing Fielder and trading Montero might make sense strictly from a lineup perspective. However, financially, it would raise the payroll, make them subject to luxury tax and stuff, and lock them into another longterm contract.

    Might not be the best move.

  38. Shame Spencer December 8th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    No one will let Alex be great. Just let him be great!

  39. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Unless they are trading Montero for David Price or Kershaw then I would HATE trading him to add Fielder.

  40. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    You wanna build a Dynasty, you do NOT do it by trading away good, young, cheap, players. Forget Danks, hang onto the kids\foundation, and spend the $$$. GET THE PACHINKO KID………………

  41. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    The Angels also have the benefit of seeing what has happened to Alex. There was no precedent or comparable when Hank opened the checkbook.

  42. upstate kate December 8th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    I am not seeing how Fielder is a benefit.
    Yankees already have a 1B and an up and coming DH/BUC

  43. willwill December 8th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    I had a dream arod got in a fight with someone in the stands and dislocated his shoulder and then the yankees voided the contract… i swear i really did LOL last night!

  44. willwill December 8th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    actually it was a dislocated arm. i think it was career ending in fact

  45. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Jon_Heyman 37 mins i should learn. the mystery team always wins. #pujols, #250M

  46. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    In 07 Alex hit 314 .422 .645 with 24 SBs in 158 games. Insane season.

  47. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    - KATE -
    Agree. That Fielder $$$ oughtta be directed at putting Darvish in pinstripes.

  48. yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    JoelSherman1
    #Angels have completed deal with CJ Wilson as well, an ewxec who talked to Angels this morning told me

  49. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    coney1 December 8th, 2011 at 10:34 am
    For what it?s worth, Incarcerated Bob is tweeting that the Yankees are now in on Prince Fielder

    ***************************

    Incarcerated Bob? Yeah, that’s not worth a whole lot. :P

  50. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Albert-Napoli back to back is going to be lethal for the Angels.

  51. Mike Ri December 8th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    JoelSherman1
    #Angels have completed deal with CJ Wilson as well, an ewxec who talked to Angels this morning told me

    ———————–

    goodness..

  52. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Joelsherman1 #Angels have completed deal with CJ Wilson as well, an ewxec who talked to Angels this morning told me

  53. blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    The Angels said they had 15 million to spend this winter…….lol

  54. Joe from Long Island December 8th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Now the Angels get CJ, also? Arte Moreno must have decided that the rates on his savings accounts were too low………

  55. Mike Ri December 8th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    its ok Yanks . . .we’ll fight em hard !

  56. Mike Ri December 8th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Now the Angels get CJ, also? Arte Moreno must have decided that the rates on his savings accounts were too low???

    ———————-

    lol lol lol lol

  57. dogface December 8th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    In 07 Alex hit 314 .422 .645 with 24 SBs in 158 games. Insane season.

    ===================================

    Stolen bases aside, these numbers are only marginally higher than Pujols average season.

  58. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    AndrewMarchand Cashman’s reaction to Pujols: “Wow”

    AndrewMarchand Cashman said he was contacted by Pujols’ agent, but he told them they didn’t have a fit.

  59. champ809 December 8th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    LGY December 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am
    In 07 Alex hit 314 .422 .645 with 24 SBs in 158 games. Insane season.
    ———————————————————————————————-

    he had a needle sticking out of his a s s the whole year!

    Pujols is a much better hitter than Alex

    BTW Napoli is a Ranger now but Albert-Kendry back to back is even more lethal for the Halos

  60. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Darvish is going to be so ridiculously overpriced there’s no reason to want the Yankees to get involved int hat mess.

    champ809 – Pujols can only play 1B. His elbow will literally fall apart if he has to throw the ball.

  61. Jdiddyshownopitty December 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Hanley wants out of FL… I bet he ends up in a city that begins with B

  62. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    “he had a needle sticking out of his a s s the whole year!”

    Post drug testing.

  63. upstate kate December 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    sooo who is the winner of the off season so far? Angels or Marlins?

  64. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Keep Trumbo, keep Morales, deal either Abreu or Hunter instead.

    That team is going to be a bear to deal with.

  65. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Any bets Pujols breaks his career high walk total this year?

  66. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Joelsherman1 3 mins Heard #Redsox will not be in on Darvish. Probably Dice-K experience

  67. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    kate – The Yankees. They haven’t overpaid for anyone or signed any bad contracts… and they still have the best team in the league.

  68. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Stolen bases aside, these numbers are only marginally higher than Pujols average season.

    —————

    But Albert is 32 now and coming off the worst season of his career. As we saw with Alex even the most elite players can decline very quickly.

  69. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    They’ll trade Trumbo …..wade davis maybe?

  70. yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    JoelSherman1
    #Yankees will remove Greg Golson from 40-man rosyter to get 2 Rule 5 picks on

  71. pat December 8th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Comment made was Pujols was a better overall player than Alex.

    I could buy overall hitter but not buying overall player.

  72. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    My guess is that Texas is going to dump a lot of money into that posting to try and get Darvish – they have no pitching and right now the choices are Darvish or Edwin Jackson.

  73. Jdiddyshownopitty December 8th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    cant say the yanks “buy” talent now lol

  74. dogface December 8th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Wilson to Halos 5/$75M???

  75. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:05 am
    They’ll trade Trumbo …..wade davis maybe?

    ——————-

    Just for the heck of it:

    Trumbo and Borgeous to the Cubs for Matt Garza.

    They can bring up Trout to play CF between Hunter and Wells.

  76. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Sign Pujols and trade Trumbo? DUMB,DUMB, DUMB.

  77. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    BTW Napoli is a Ranger now

    ——————-

    Damn. That’s a big trade for the Rangers. ;)

  78. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    “Comment made was Pujols was a better overall player than Alex.”

    I think he was when he signed the first deal……1.000 OPS shortstop > 1.000 OPS 1B.

  79. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    DKnobler Heard that Cardinals had Stan Musial call Pujols to try to encourage him to stay.

  80. pat December 8th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Angels now have $145M tied to 12 players for 2012.

  81. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I think Albert might be the best RH hitter of all time…however the Angels are paying 250 million for his decline years. The Cards have already gotten the best of Albert Pujols

  82. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    oh, and then trade Abreu and money to the A’s for a relief pitcher.

    Lineup:

    Aybar – SS
    Kendrick – 2b
    Pujols – 1b
    Morales – DH
    Hunter – RF
    Wells – LF
    Trout – CF
    Ianetta – C
    Callaspo – 3b

  83. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Wow amazing moves by the Angels.

  84. 4time December 8th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Pretty close between the 2011 Phillies and 2012 Angels

    Halladay-Lee-Hamels-Oswalt is slightly better than Weaver-Haren-Santana-Wilson.

    Both offenses have a lot of aging players on it and are not great offenses. I like the Angels potential offense better though.

    Both have suspect bullpens.

  85. Against All Odds December 8th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    # blake December 8th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    The Angels said they had 15 million to spend this winter…….lol

    —————————————-

    they did have 15….for CJ :)

  86. CompassRosy December 8th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    looks like the Halos new 150mil TV deal was burning a hole in Arte’s pocket already.

    Poor Astros (as I saw mentioned in a couple of tweets) … Thought they were finally rid of Albert.

  87. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Jon_Heyman 4 mins #angels have spent $325M plus this morn. #pujols, #wilson

    Jon_Heyman 6 mins Wilson signs with angels $75M 5 yrs

  88. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:11 am
    I think Albert might be the best RH hitter of all time…however the Angels are paying 250 million for his decline years. The Cards have already gotten the best of Albert Pujols

    —————

    I still think Manny was a better hitter than Pujols – but that just may be from seeing Manny up close for so many years.

  89. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    I would have played on Wilson at 5/75….it probably would have cost the Yanks more though.

  90. Jerkface December 8th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    CJ Wilson cant get more than AJ Burnett or John Lackey. Darvish will take Matsuzaka money.

  91. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Manny was amazing, Pujols is better.

  92. pat December 8th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    “Comment made was Pujols was a better overall player than Alex.”

    I think he was when he signed the first deal……1.000 OPS shortstop > 1.000 OPS 1B.

    Those 2 comments seem to conflict.

  93. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    “I still think Manny was a better hitter than Pujols – but that just may be from seeing Manny up close for so many years.”

    Close…..but nope

  94. yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Boy, how bad do the Burnett an Lackey contracts look?

  95. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Marlins gotta since Prince now. Get on it Loria.

  96. CB December 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Would the Yankees feel comfortable budgeting in 3 pitchers into their rotation that will cost net 20M?

    That’s a question the yankees have answer. Because if signing Darvish is going to make them pass on Cole Hamels next winter (if he makes it to the market) then you really have to think carefully about what you want to do with Darvish.

    There of course is not guarantee that Hamels makes it to the market of course and that’s a real complicating factor.

    Part of the cost of Darvish isn’t “only” the direct money – it’s the opportunity cost.

    If the Sox hadn’t gone after Matsuzaka they could have made a real run at CC.

    This is a very difficult decision. One that you have to make with very partial information.

  97. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    “Those 2 comments seem to conflict.”

    How so? I sound take prime arod over prime Pujols……though Albert is a better pure hitter.

  98. Joe from Long Island December 8th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Both offenses have a lot of aging players

    I think that’s a very big factor here. It’s been apparent for a while now that, in this day and age of PED-correctness, it’s a young man’s game. Between injuries and the season-long aches and pains, players on the wrong side of 30 are going to find it harder and harder. Just look at our own experiences with Jeter and Alex. They’re still very capable ML players, but, it gets harder and harder for them.

  99. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    This deal for Pujols is absolutely worse than the one A-rod got from the Rangers. A-rod was a more valuable player at the time than Pujols is now and he was 6 years younger.

  100. NJ Pete December 8th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    yanks 27
    #Yankees will remove Greg Golson from 40-man rosyter to get 2 Rule 5 picks on

    Thank you.

  101. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    AndrewMarchand Cashman said that Pujols’ bat is “Montero-like.” #ThelegendofMonte

  102. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Can’t wait to see Darvish in front of a packed house at Yankee Stadium, make an absolute laughing stock outta Pujols at the plate.

  103. Ys Guy December 8th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    boras wins again.

  104. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    CB,

    Good point about the possibility of Hamels next year and how that effects getting Darvish now. I think the Yankees’ philosophy of “win every year at all costs” is actually flawed. Hamels is the better bet between the two but if they follow that philosophy they HAVE to pursue Darvish now.

  105. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    JackCurryYES Cashman wouldn’t divulge if Yanks will bid on Darvish. Said history with international pitchers gives them experience in this area

  106. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    “boras wins again.”

    How?

  107. CB December 8th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Pujols is a better defensive 1b – much better – than Alex has ever been as a defensive 3b.

    3b is a much more difficult position to play – so it’s a difficult direct comparison.

    Overall, I’d say Pujols is a better all around player than Alex was when they signed their deals.

    It’s possible that Pujols body is starting to breakdown and I also think he’s getting too heavy.

    But skillwise – Pujols is just phenomenal. And has played at a level Alex touched in certain years but never played at consistently year in and out.

  108. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Angels best team ever ;)

  109. Joe from Long Island December 8th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Once again, CB takes in the big picture.

    Cole Hamel has to be in the Yankees’ mind. But the question isn’t just whether he makes it to the FA market, but – even if he does, does he want to play in for the Yankees? Just look at the Cliff Lee experience. Everything pointed towards his ending up in NY. It just didn’t happen.

    Again, this Darvish decision will be a big one. If they have any questions about his adapatability, then I’m hoping that the price on an established, talented ML pitcher becomes reasonable.

  110. Against All Odds December 8th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    # blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    “boras wins again.”

    How?

    ——————

    Prince gets a big pay day. Some ppl have speculated he’ll get more than Tex.

  111. djsunyc December 8th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    angels take away the rangers best pitcher and add pujols. if healthy, angels will win the division and will be very scary in the postseason with that rotation…

  112. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Ys Guy December 8th, 2011 at 11:16 am
    boras wins again.

    ———–

    how do you figure – neither Pujols or Wilson are Boras guys – in fact the Boras guys (Fielder, Beltran, Ed Jackson) have gotten almost no play this winter.

  113. dogface December 8th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    I still think Manny was a better hitter than Pujols – but that just may be from seeing Manny up close for so many years.

    =======================

    Disagree. Ramirez was great, but Pujols is the best hitter of at least the past 40 years, IMO. Maybe longer. Arguably the best overall hitter since Mantle. Suppose Bonds is in that argument too, but I’m not buying the power was 100% legit.

  114. champ809 December 8th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Blake

    You must know that ARod was on HGH on ’07….right!?!?

    Pujols is without a doubt the best RH hitter of the last 50yrs.

  115. upstate kate December 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    ID
    I was just thinking about Cashman’s comments on Yankee Daily last night when he said he wanted to be “the king of the winter meetings” :)

  116. 4time December 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Rangers need to jump in on Fielder now. They can’t just sit back and lose ground like this.

  117. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    “It’s possible that Pujols body is starting to breakdown and I also think he’s getting too heavy.”

    That’s my biggest concern……he’s noticeably heavier than he was 5 years ago and its not fat….just looks thicker and more mature…….which leads me to believe he’s older than listed. I coukd be way off

  118. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    I’m still not handing anything to the Angels – yes they’re the favorite in the AL right now – but then again Boston won the 2011 offseason and look how that turned out.

  119. Triple Short of a Cycle December 8th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    So who figures to be in on Darvish?

    Blue Jays,Rangers,Marlins (maybe), Nationals and Yankees?

  120. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    CB,

    Albert is better now than A-rod was when he signed his second big contract but if you compare present day Pujols to 2000 A-rod it’s no contest. A-rod was the better player

  121. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    I know it really doesn’t matter in the scope of what else is going on – but is anyone surprised that Pat Venditte didn’t get claimed in the Rule 5 draft?

  122. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    “You must know that ARod was on HGH on ’07….right!?!?

    How do you know Pujols isn’t? I agree though……probably best RH hitter ever.

  123. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    When weighing the Pujols vs A-Rod signings, you also gotta factor in the position each plays. The Yanks had difficulty replacing Brosius, and really had no one in place to replace A-Rod had he walked. It also seems like Every team hasa killer bat at 1B. Moreno is Severely frustrated at being a Brides Maid several times over in the free agent market, and knee jerked with Pujols.

  124. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    eboland11 Because the media at times has difficulty with the nuances of humor, Cashman was joking when he called Pujols’ bat “Montero-like.”

  125. RadioKev December 8th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    I don’t believe Hamels will hit the market. I’d bet on an extension.

  126. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:24 am
    CB,

    Albert is better now than A-rod was when he signed his second big contract but if you compare present day Pujols to 2000 A-rod it’s no contest. A-rod was the better player

    ————-

    Alex also didn’t have the injury issues that Pujols has shown.

  127. Against All Odds December 8th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    # Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    eboland11 Because the media at times has difficulty with the nuances of humor, Cashman was joking when he called Pujols’ bat “Montero-like.”

    ————————————-

    I guess some ppl don’t realize what a joke is.

  128. champ809 December 8th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Patrick

    the appropriate comparison is ARod’s last contract vs. Pujol’s current contract….Right now I don’t think it’s even close I’d take Pujols 32-42 over ARod 32-42 in a sec.

  129. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Anyways, it’s silly to compare Pujols’ contract now to the one A-rod got in 2000 (or 2001, whatever). It was 10 years ago, 250 million isn’t the same now as it was then

  130. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    I dont think this makes them a favorite for the AL at all, their division? Sure… but their offense still has a long way to go. Pujols isn’t going to make up 200 runs.

  131. m1kew December 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:18 am
    JackCurryYES Cashman wouldn’t divulge if Yanks will bid on Darvish. Said history with international pitchers gives them experience in this area

    Interesting that Cashman said “international pitchers” rather than Japanese pitchers. One might make a case that they have had favorable results from International pitchers whereas they could not say the same about Japanese pitchers.

  132. CB December 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    I don’t know what they should do with Darvish. I just haven’t seen enough of him.

    From what I have seen – I like his arm. I like his frame. I really like his tempo through his delivery. But I do have some concerns with how he throws the ball. I’m concerned he may have some difficulty keeping the ball down in the zone.

    This is just an area where you cannot make a mistake with your scouting. You must accurately understand this asset and price him accordingly. It’s a mission critical decision.

  133. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Lost making another prediction. Guess his sources will be tested this winter.

    @LostNYY: #Yankees skipped CJ WIlson for #Darvish, plan to go hard. Hal gave Cash the green light.

  134. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    the appropriate comparison is ARod’s last contract vs. Pujol’s current contract….Right now I don’t think it’s even close I’d take Pujols 32-42 over ARod 32-42 in a sec.

    The appropriate comparison is whatever comparison we feel like discussing. I was discussing A-rod’s first big contract.

    But yeah you are right I’d take Pujols now compared to A-rod prior to his big extension

  135. Against All Odds December 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    # RadioKev December 8th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    I don’t believe Hamels will hit the market. I’d bet on an extension.

    ——————————–

    So do I which is why the Yankees might have to make a move this winter

  136. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    When you start getting into the “best ever” stuff, your getting into dangerous territory. You just can NOT Fairly compare cross-generational players.

  137. 4time December 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    CB – Great analysis.

    There are some fallbacks in the FA market next year that are unrestricted – Danks, Cain, A. Sanchez…. but none are close to Hamels as a pitcher and none might make it to FA themselves (especially Cain). I also wouldn’t go through a team’s salary commitments or read tweets about their financial situations as proof of anything – see the Angels/Marlins this year, and who in the world thought Kemp would sign for that kind of $$ before the season even started or ownership got settled?

    I think they need to strike here on Darvish. If they miss on Darvish and their target (Hamels) signs an extension, then they will be forced to rely entirely on their farm to round out the rotation, overpay in a trade, or sign someone like Danks or Sanchez who are probably middle rotation guys to solve their desire for a front-end guy behind CC.

    I’d take the risk on Darvish.

  138. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    I know that St. Louis has talked about how they were already for planning for life without Albert (move Berkman to 1b) but if I was them I would go beyond that. Use the money they were planning to spend on Pujols and sign Jimmy Rollins, Carlos Beltran and Edwin Jackson.

    The Rollins thing might be tough because Rollins and Pujols both are represented by the same guy.

    On another note – Sandy Alderson took a shot at the Angels for signing Pujols – how about this Sandy – worry about your own team. You were embarassed by having it out there that you didn’t even offer a contract to your own free agent and your big add so far is Jon Rauch.

  139. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    I was talking about Arod’s second contract guys. Of course the first Alex one was better…

  140. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    “the appropriate comparison is ARod’s last contract vs. Pujol’s current contract….Right now I don’t think it’s even close I’d take Pujols 32-42 over ARod 32-42 in a sec”

    True but we have hindsight knowledge on Alex…..let’s see what Pujols looks like in 4-5 years.

  141. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Triple – Texas, Texas, Texas and Texas will be in on Darvish. After losing Wilson (and with Buerhle gone) they can’t afford to miss on Darvish. I don’t think anyone else’s posting fee will be even close.

  142. Gary December 8th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am
    “Comment made was Pujols was a better overall player than Alex.”

    I think he was when he signed the first deal……1.000 OPS shortstop > 1.000 OPS 1B.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Blake wondered what your take is, Angels have been a bad matchup for the Yanks. Personally I can’t see that this trade makes that any worst and probably better for them. Angels play alot of agressive baseball taking the extra base, stealing ect. Albert I think is going to drive in a bunch of runs anyways, but I wonder if they get less agressive now, not letting the other team just walk him to an open base. The guys hitting before behind me may turn out to be the more important factor in how successful he ends up out there.

  143. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am
    I dont think this makes them a favorite for the AL at all, their division? Sure… but their offense still has a long way to go. Pujols isn’t going to make up 200 runs.

    ———–

    Offensively they’re replacing Trumbo, Abreu, Borgeous and Mathis with Pujols, Morales, Trout and Ianetta.

  144. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    baldvinny in other news, i hope Greg Golson goes into the hall of fame as a yankee #WeHardlyKnewYe

  145. jc in tw December 8th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    so…after this crazy offseason signing, Yankees is no longer entitled “Evil Empire”?

  146. Jerkface December 8th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    A-rod wasnt on HGH in 07, he didn’t fail any test as a Yankee. Now he might have been on something undetectable, and if he was, then I think all yankees ought to be using whatever they can get away with.

  147. ron December 8th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    If i’m the yankees i bid on darvish,nothing crazy,but an honest bid.

    I however would love hamels in pinstripes next year.

    The rs are in trouble,the phillies are going to be a vey old team,with a bunch of big contracts.
    The angels will be tough for 2,3 years,then same thing,big contracts and an aging team,while we keep all of our prospects,lower payroll,and still have one of the best teams in baseball,and in good position to get a good fa pitcher next year.

  148. CB December 8th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Also – just my gut impression – I think the Yanks will sign Darvish.

    I don’t buy all of this quietness from them. Don’t think they liked Wilson.

    I do think they will go hard for Darvish. In a blind auction they may not get them – but they will try very hard.

  149. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    A-rod wasnt on HGH in 07, he didn’t fail any test as a Yankee.

    No HGH test until this CBA though.

    Not that it matters, HGH isn’t proven to help performance at all. God please no more PED talk, it’s the dumbest thing

  150. yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    BobKlap
    Friend of Pujols believes rivalry with A-Rod big factor in picking #Angels. Will finish his career making more per year than A-Rod will.

  151. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    The two Yankee Rule 5 picks (baseball america):

    Yankees (purchased from Royals) Cesar Cabral, lhp Red Sox
    Cabral was also selected in the 2010 Rule 5 draft, which means that he is eligible for free agency if he passes through waivers rather than having to be offered back to his original team. Cabral keeps getting picked because he could be a useful left-on-left reliever with some history of success in the minors. He’s been effective in the Dominican Winter League (1-0, 0.87). Cabral sinks his average (88-91) mph fastball that touches 93 mph, he has a decent changeup and throws a fringy slider.

    29. Yankees Brad Meyers, rhp Nationals
    Like several of the players selected ahead of him, Meyers lacks a plus pitch, but he does have a feel for setting up hitters, and he throws a wide assortment of fringy pitches. Meyers has had success throughout his minor league career, and his 88-90 mph fastball could play up with a move to the pen where he can air it out.

  152. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Gary,

    I think the Angels speedsters are gonna get a lot of breaking balls to run on hitting on front of Albert…..I don’t know if these moves put them ahead of Texas but they are definitely better than they were yesterday. Still have some holes though.

  153. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    I do think they will go hard for Darvish. In a blind auction they may not get them – but they will try very hard.

    I think (and hope) so too.

  154. Triple Short of a Cycle December 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    ID,

    Unfortunately I agree with you.

  155. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    BobKlap Friend of Pujols believes rivalry with A-Rod big factor in picking #Angels. Will finish his career making more per year than A-Rod will.

  156. yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    One thing for sure – we are lucky CC signed before FA started and wasn’t included in this madness.

  157. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Chip – Ianetta had a .587 OPS on the road last year and a .707 OPS away from Coor’s field for his career… Trout (complete inexperience) and Morales (injury, hasn’t swung a bat in anger in over a year) are giant question marks. They’ve gained maybe 50-60 runs? That’s like 5 wins… that’ll help them pass Texas no problem, but win the AL? They’ll fight for it surely, but I’ll still put the Yanks on top unless they go sign Beltran or Rollins too.

  158. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    In the video I’ve seen on Darvish the one thing I do notice quite often is how many times the Japanese hitters are swinging at stuff that big leaguers never would. I do like a lot of things about what I see though with him just on video

  159. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Yeah ID is right.. offense needs a lot of work and the Angels certainly aren’t the favorites to win the world series or anything. Although I think Trout is more of a sure thing than you are giving him credit for.

  160. Yankee Trader December 8th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Wow-I just got back home and never would have guessed both Pujols and Wilson. Who’s on 3rd-Callaspo? Trumbo? Looks like Wilson was willing to take less than Weaver and really wanted to be an Angel.

    Chip-
    Rollins resigned with the Phillies-Yes?

    CB-
    There’s a lot to like about Darvish. YU have to be concerned with the raised seams on the balls over there that enables Darvish to do more with the curveball.

    Will the Steinbrenners give Cashman the green light to go all out for him?

  161. pat December 8th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Not wishing injury on anyone but…….. if Pujols misses 150 games the next 3 years, who would you rather have 37-42?

    No hindsight makes things a tougher evaluation.

  162. LGY December 8th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    The Rangers payroll was 92M last year. They have 74M committed in 2012 already. Their projected arbitration cases bring them to 106M.

    Do they have the dough to dish out for Darvish especially with Hammy looking for an extension?

  163. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Jon_Heyman 30 secs Stl cards will have to think about rollins … And yes, prince, now.

  164. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Not wishing injury on anyone but…….. if Pujols misses 150 games the next 3 years, who would you rather have 37-42?

    No hindsight makes things a tougher evaluation.

    We are basing the analysis on how Pujols looks right now vs how Alex was performing right before his latest huge deal. Pujols is better now than Alex was then

  165. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:35 am
    Chip – Ianetta had a .587 OPS on the road last year and a .707 OPS away from Coor’s field for his career… Trout (complete inexperience) and Morales (injury, hasn’t swung a bat in anger in over a year) are giant question marks. They’ve gained maybe 50-60 runs? That’s like 5 wins… that’ll help them pass Texas no problem, but win the AL? They’ll fight for it surely, but I’ll still put the Yanks on top unless they go sign Beltran or Rollins too.

    ————–

    I think the addition to the pitching staff along with the additions to the offense combine to make them the favorites in the AL.

    The only teams with offenses that are on their level are Boston and New York and as of now the Angels have a better pitching staff than both.

    Again, that means nothing since at this time last year with their additions Boston was the clear cut favorite in the AL and they didn’t even make the playoffs.

    I do think it is still entirely possible that the Yankees end up with both Darvish and Cespedes.

  166. Gary December 8th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    CB December 8th, 2011 at 11:32 am
    Also – just my gut impression – I think the Yanks will sign Darvish.

    I don’t buy all of this quietness from them. Don’t think they liked Wilson.

    I do think they will go hard for Darvish. In a blind auction they may not get them – but they will try very hard.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Hope so, I don’t see them tendering a bid that they don’t feel will be the winning bid. To just make a bid that you know will be topped is pretty much a waste of time and why bother. I don’t believe there is as much of a unknown out there as people may think. I think the level of technology that exists and the models I believe they have avaliable to them, allow all the teams to be very predictable on what a range each team might be able to bid. They will know with whatever level of certainty what they probably have to bid to win the bid.

    Having said that if they do get outbid it is a much different outcome than most of us expect.

  167. Yankee Trader December 8th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    The Angels offense does need work. They scored 22 more runs than the A’s last year, but they now have Pujols, Morales returning. Of course opposing pitchers can just treat Albert like Bonds and intentionally walk him and make the others drive in runs. :)

  168. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Yankee Trader December 8th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Chip-
    Rollins resigned with the Phillies-Yes?

    ————

    Trader – as of now Rollins has not signed with the Phillies, they were getting closer to a deal but nothing is done.

    I still think the Angels could make another big move – with Morales, Trout and Pujols they can deal Borgeous and Trumbo…put those two with one more prospect and send them to the Cubs for Matt Garza and really lock up that rotation. Then pick up a chunk of Abreu’s contract (because right now he’s a really expensive pinch hitter) and send him somewhere for a relief pitcher.

  169. pat December 8th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    eboland11Erik Boland
    Because the media at times has difficulty with the nuances of humor, Cashman was joking when he called Pujols’ bat “Montero-like.”

  170. CB December 8th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    “One thing for sure – we are lucky CC signed before FA started and wasn’t included in this madness.”

    I’ve been thinking about that a lot with these crazy prices.

    CC was obviously the key. But getting Freddy signed when they did was terrific business as well.

    Buehrle is a better pitcher than Freddy. But Freddy at 5m x 1 year vs. 58M over 4 for Buerhle – I’ll take Freddy.

    Yanks did great business already.

  171. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:38 am
    Jon_Heyman 30 secs Stl cards will have to think about rollins … And yes, prince, now.

    ———-

    I think the Cards will stay away from Prince and just move Berkman to 1b

    I like Rollins for them but again it’s tough – the agent who represents Rollins just delivered Pujols to the Angels.

  172. Gary December 8th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Yankee Trader December 8th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    The Angels offense does need work. They scored 22 more runs than the A’s last year, but they now have Pujols, Morales returning. Of course opposing pitchers can just treat Albert like Bonds and intentionally walk him and make the others drive in runs.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Well they certaintly are working on, I think their run production is going to jump substantly both on their acquisitions and people that have left. He will get his share of walks, but his stats are pretty impressive. This isn’t Carl Crawford coming on board.

  173. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    “We are basing the analysis on how Pujols looks right now vs how Alex was performing right before his latest huge deal. Pujols is better now than Alex was then”

    Block the last 4 years from your mind…..its tough to do and then compare 2007 arod vs current Pujols. Alex never had a significant injury then….he coukd still run…he looked athletic as ever and was coming off an incredible season where he carried the Yanks on his back to the playoffs. Albert is great but some of his peripherals offensively have been declining for 3 or 4 years and he looks heavier and older than he says he is.

  174. dogface December 8th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Pujols analogy from Twitter:

    Cardinals got the Beatles. Halos are getting the solo stuff

  175. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    and it has started:

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......ujols-now/

  176. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    “One thing for sure – we are lucky CC signed before FA started and wasn’t included in this madness.”

    Absolutely ……they coukd have saves millions of dollars.

  177. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    St Louis will be better off for signing Fielder instead of Pujols…

    LGY – I don’t see them giving Hamilton the extension before the season starts… contracts should decline overall again next year with the CBA changes so they would only hurt themselves by giving him money now. I think that their new ownership group will panic and they’ll splash on Darvish… especially since they lost their Ace to a division rival.

  178. CB December 8th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    “In the video I’ve seen on Darvish the one thing I do notice quite often is how many times the Japanese hitters are swinging at stuff that big leaguers never would. I do like a lot of things about what I see though with him just on video”

    Blake,

    I kind of there with you. There are pitches he gets swing and misses on or called third strikes on that would never produce those results in the majors. Pitches he’s missing his spot on by a foot that produce good outcomes.

    The deception in his wind up means that he has to get his arm through very quickly otherwise his front side opens up too early – which can leave him prone to having the ball up in the zone.

  179. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    “Cardinals got the Beatles. Halos are getting the solo stuff”

    Yup….and the Beatles cost half as much.

  180. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    dogface December 8th, 2011 at 11:46 am
    Pujols analogy from Twitter:

    Cardinals got the Beatles. Halos are getting the solo stuff

    *********************

    :lol:

    Love that

  181. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    CB,

    True…..guess we have to trust the Yankee scouts on this one.

  182. tucker December 8th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    It will be fun to see Pujols assault the green monstah.

  183. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    blake,

    It’s easy to block the last 4 years out of your mind when all you care about is stats and spreadsheets like me.

    Kidding..

    No but seriously, both were/are great hitters but Alex has never looked that good at 3B while Pujols is one of the top fielding 1B in the game.

  184. Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    CB – <i.Pitches he’s missing his spot on by a foot that produce good outcomes.

    This is the biggest thing I notice with video on Darvish. He has good stuff and his pitches are hard to hit for teh Japanese batters, but he doesn’t really hit his spots that often. He’ll have the same walk struggles every Japanese pitcher does when they come over, so now you are looking at a posting fee + a contract + probably starting that contract with a below-expectation season.

    He’s just way too expensive, probably twice the cost of a regular pitcher with the same question marks surrounding him.

  185. Yankee Trader December 8th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    LGY-
    The Rangers have the trade chips to now go get Gio Gonzalez, without raising their payroll significantly.

    The Yankees will be at approximately 78M in guaranteed contracts by 2014[ARod, CC, Tex, and Jeter if he picks up his 8M option] Signing Cano and probably Granderson to new contracts would most likely raise it to 115M or more. Then there’s the rest of the 40 man roster.

    I would think they want to be under the new luxury tax threshold of 189M in 2014. If they go all out for Darvish, I’d expect he’ll be looking for 10M/6years minimum, to match the 52M and 8M in incentives on the contract Matsusaka received.

    Will we be surprised yet again? 4 days of silen auction possibly starting this weekend.

  186. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Irreverent Discourse December 8th, 2011 at 11:48 am
    St Louis will be better off for signing Fielder instead of Pujols…

    LGY – I don’t see them giving Hamilton the extension before the season starts… contracts should decline overall again next year with the CBA changes so they would only hurt themselves by giving him money now. I think that their new ownership group will panic and they’ll splash on Darvish… especially since they lost their Ace to a division rival.

    ————-

    One thing about Texas – if you ask Nolan Ryan he’s going to tell you that he’s already replaced CJ Wilson by moving Neftali Feliz into the rotation. It might be BS, but I don’t think he’s going to go overboard trying to replace Wilson.

    I see them or the Cards being the landing spot for Edwin Jackson and they have the minor league depth to go out and get either Matt Garza or John Danks.

  187. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    “No but seriously, both were/are great hitters but Alex has never looked that good at 3B while Pujols is one of the top fielding 1B in the game.”

    Lol true……but its still 3B vs 1B…….3B is so thin in baseball right now…..its unbelievable how many crappy players are playing 3B in the big leagues. What I meant is that based on what I knew about Alex in 2007 I would have thought he’d be better from that age forward than I feel about Albert now. Albert has a better swing and one that should age very well…..but I think age and injury are big worries here.

  188. Shame Spencer December 8th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    I never bought that Pujols was clean to be honest.. there’s a whole generation of cynical fans that were born out of the ’90s.

  189. blake December 8th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    “LGY-The Rangers have the trade chips to now go get Gio Gonzalez, without raising their payroll significantly.”

    They were asking for Perez (who is their Banuelos) + more

  190. Chip December 8th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    The Pujols deal is going to look bad in years 6 – 10 when Albert is in his late 30s; but let’s be honest – Pujols is the best hitter in the game right now – if he loses a step in the field he can DH and with the composition of the team it was a move they absolutely were right to make.

    Certainly Wilson and Pujols was a better investment than if they had signed Crawford, Soriano and Beltre last winter.

  191. BIG AL December 8th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Pujols and CJ Wilson to Angles has to make them not only a force in the AL West, but in the AL in general.

    Let’s hope Cashman don’t sit on the current roster and hope for another 97 win season.

  192. PittsburghYankeeFan December 8th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Gee, Lost. Tell us what we don’t know.

    I’m looking forward to the NY Post Headlines, such as: “We Luv Yu,” “Where Have Yu Been All My Life,””Yu Know Where to Stick It, Red Sox!”

    That will be almost as much fun as watching him pitch.

    Yu will get $8 million AAV or thereabouts. Posting fee will be somewhere between $25-35 million.

    Sox not in it. Texas could be, but my guess is that they trade for Garza instead.

    Interesting that Arte Moreno, who supposedly was the hard core guy for the owners holding the line on spending in the CBA, suddenly gives Albert $260 million and goes after Wilson. Smell a bit of hypocrisy here?

  193. Yank1 December 8th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    PeteAbe Who’s the best 1B in the American League now? Pujols, Gonzalez, Teixeira or Cabrera? Tough call for All-Star teams.

    ——

    Excellent point by Pete. Tex can probably kiss any ASG births goodbye for the rest of his career. The Pujols/Cabrera/Gonzalez battles will be awesome though to see who gets in.

  194. Erin December 8th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    New Post: Yankees wrapping up in Dallas

    :arrow:

  195. blake December 8th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    PeteAbe Who’s the best 1B in the American League now? Pujols, Gonzalez, Teixeira or Cabrera? Tough call for All-Star teams.

    Pujols….but Cabrera might be a better bat now and going forward……albert a better player still though

  196. CB December 8th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    On the Rangers –

    Where’s Hank Greenberg?

    Remember him. The guy everyone was talking about at this time last year. The industry player who was shaking things up, etc, etc.

    It’s amazing how fast things are now forgotten. He’s such a distant memory now that his 15min are up.

    Greenberg was always a figurehead there. He was never the guy with the money so he didn’t really matter (which is why I could never understand why yankee fans made such a big deal out all of the things he was saying last winter…)

    But the reason why he was pushed out by the people with the money was that they felt his pursuit of Cliff Lee at 100M+ was crazy and that he was being irresponsible.

    So the men with money in Texas decided that Cliff Lee at 100M+ wasn’t something they wanted to do.

    But now those same guys are going to want to pursue a Japanese pitcher with no stateside experience or track record at a similar total dollar figure? No Darvish won’t cost 125M+ – but his total outlay is going to be enormous. And he’s nowhere near what Lee was.

    The Rangers clearly new they weren’t bringing back wilson. It’s why they moved Feliz to the rotation so quickly this winter. That spot in the rotation has been replaced.

    They can find a closer. That’s all they need.

  197. CB December 8th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Hank Greengeg, Lol, …. Chuck Greenberg… I’ve already forgetten his first name!

  198. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Excellent point by Pete. Tex can probably kiss any ASG births goodbye for the rest of his career. The Pujols/Cabrera/Gonzalez battles will be awesome though to see who gets in.

    1. Pujols
    2. Cabrera
    3. Gonzalez
    4. Teixeira

  199. Villa Nova-Ya December 8th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    We know for sure that not one of those 1B is ever going to have a set-back? Or a decline?

    We’re also so ready here to write off any Yankees as second-rate. Tired of it already.

  200. Villa Nova-Ya December 8th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    And it is “berth” not “birth” unless the ASG is happening in a maternity ward.

  201. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    We know for sure that not one of those 1B is ever going to have a set-back? Or a decline?

    We’re also so ready here to write off any Yankees as second-rate. Tired of it already.

    Lol im sorry but that’s how they rank right now

  202. Villa Nova-Ya December 8th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    I don’t care about rankings.

    And that didn’t answer my question. The question is: none of those will ever see a set-back or a decline?

    And perhaps Tex doesn’t get voted to start in an ASG, but htat’s not to say he is never again an all-star.

    Just tired of the constant downgrading of Yankees players.

  203. DONNYBROOK December 8th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Gonna be interesting to see how Bautista rises to the challenge of having Pujols in the AL. I do CHALLENGE the assertion that Pujols is “the best hitter in the game right now”. The guy has been consistently injured the last couple season, and he plods both offensive and defensively at this point in his carrer. Hell, he even muffed a simple cut-off in the World Series, and Everybody looked the other way. LaRussa has covered for him the last couple seasons, and has had plenty of practice having managed Mark McGwire. Pujols is a very good player, but he aint what he once was, which is why the age question continues to gather steam. I believe Donald Trump has demanded Pujols produce a birth certificate.

  204. jacksquat December 8th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    yanks 27 December 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
    BobKlap
    Friend of Pujols believes rivalry with A-Rod big factor in picking #Angels. Will finish his career making more per year than A-Rod will.

    Lol, a salary rivalry. A-Rod wins, rivalry over.

  205. Patrick December 8th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Just tired of the constant downgrading of Yankees players.

    It’s the truth not downgrading. THe topic was “which of these is the best 1B” so I ranked them 1-4. You are being silly, stop

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