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Nakajima reacts to Yankees submitting highest posting fee

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 10, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Japanese shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima spoken about the possibility of signing with the Yankees, though to be perfectly honest, it’s hard for me tell what exactly he said. Nakajima spoke to Nikkan Sports, which means the link is in Japanese.

An online translation of the text, though, includes this line: “the possibility of the entry refusal is extremely low…”

Maybe the translation is wrong, and maybe I’m reading it in the wrong context, but it seems to indicate that Nakajima wants to play next season and is downplaying the chances of refusing to sign a deal with the Yankees. There has been significant speculation that the Yankees might not offer a big enough contract — or a big enough role — to entice Nakajima to leave Japan. He’s surely looking for a chance to get significant playing time, and with the Yankees, he’d be little more than a second utility infielder.

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56 Responses to “Nakajima reacts to Yankees submitting highest posting fee”

  1. PacoDooley December 10th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    repost from the Hughes thread:

    PacoDooley December 10th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    Bumgarner, Verlander, two guys with arm fatigue whose graves their fans were ready to stomp on…

    Fortunately for their teams, the DM weren’t so myopic.
    “““““““““““““““““““

    Great point, and Verlander was 11-17 with a 4.84 ERA in his age 25 season. (so okay, he was pretty dominant the two seasons prior, but so was Hughes, though perhaps not up to the same level). Plus, Verlander is perhaps a bad comparison, think about how many great starters didn’t have their first really great season until they were 25 or 26… Look at Cliff Lee – he was 29 before he had a great season (and had a 5.43 ERA in his age 25 season). Point is – he is still relatively young as starters go and I think he has it in him to have a breakout season still.

  2. PacoDooley December 10th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    As for Nakajima, hopefully we’ll get a decent translation soon!

    I imagine he will prefer to wait a year and sign a deal with a team that sees him as a regular starter. Or they can try to work out a deal with another MLB team, though with such a low post bid I am not sure his current team has a lot of incentive.

  3. GreenBeret7 December 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I think the Yanks might engage another team in an up-the-middle need that meets with Nakajima’s approval and make a trade for something more useful, and allows NYYs re-sign Chavez, even though Cashman says there is no intent to do so.

  4. m December 10th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    He will sign. To quote CJ Wilson, “Who wouldn’t want to play for the Yankees?” Matsui paved the way.

    Sign a short contract, Nakajima. Then you’ll have a chance to prove yourself to other major league clubs and acclimate to the majors at the same time.

  5. Ghostwriter December 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    m December 10th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Sign a short contract, Nakajima. Then you’ll have a chance to prove yourself to other major league clubs and acclimate to the majors at the same time.
    =================

    That could be a very risky proposition for Nakajima. However, if the Yanks offer him for a sum that significantly exceeds what he would make over the next few years in Japan, then it could make sense for him to take a chance.

  6. WGeneral December 10th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    I am fairly fluent in Japanese. He’s my take on the translation:

    Seibu’s INF Hiroyuki Nakajima (29), who is aiming to challenge the big leagues, talked about how he felt on Dec. 9th. He appeared at a ball club function in Saitama. The moment when he found out that the Yankees received exclusive negotiating rights through the posting system, “I thought ‘Wow.’ An incredible ball team has bidded for me,’ he said as his eyes glittered. As for his image [impression] of the ball team, and such probing questions, he said ‘I still don’t know what is going to happen’ and avoided and direct answers in preparation for his agent’s upcoming negotiation with the team. However, there was not a word of refusal, and his will to challenge [the big leagues] is strong, therefore it is extremely unlikely that he will refuse joining the team [Yankees].

    In contrast to the Nakajima’s restrained comments, there was a lot of colorful discussion among the Seibu. Manager Watanabe added “I was surprised. They have a very packed infield, but Nakajima is a player who really thrives when swimming against the tide.” As for the matchup between Nakajima and his ex-Seibu senior Matsuzaka, who is on the rival team the Red Sox, he expressed high expectations, “These are two high-exposure teams. I’d want to see that.”

  7. m December 10th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    WGeneral,

    That’s a great read there. Thanks for that. It sounds much more like what he would say that the disgruntled crap that’s been floating around. Gaijin just don’t understand that Japanese players won’t insult anyone publicly.

    Ghostwriter,

    Good point, but name a team (besides the Sox), that would plug him into their starting lineup? I’m thinking the Yankees is a good entry point. Just need to cross the border first, then worry about finding a home!

  8. Don December 10th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Question for the experts here: why haven’t the Yankees made a big splash and picked up free agents (pitchers and otherwise) in the last two winters? Is it because they are now confident in what their farm system is producing or is it because they are feeling the consequences of the big contracts to Arod, Tex, AJ, CC etc.? (some of the baseball writers suggest the latter)

  9. DONNYBROOK December 10th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Nakawhatever has nothing to prove by staying\playing in Japan. Much like a mercenary looking for a War anywhere on the globe, an athlete at the Top of his field is looking for a challenge on the largest stage possible. You also got some culture\pride involved here, as going back to Japan would be regarded as the equivalent of retreating from the heat of battle. I also believe Nakawhatever does not wanna give Darvish center stage via absentia, and actually would Love to compete alongside a fellow countryman on the Yankees. That’s my assessment of this situation. No Charge at this time.

  10. Giuseppe Franco December 10th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Don December 10th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Question for the experts here: why haven’t the Yankees made a big splash and picked up free agents (pitchers and otherwise) in the last two winters? Is it because they are now confident in what their farm system is producing or is it because they are feeling the consequences of the big contracts to Arod, Tex, AJ, CC etc.? (some of the baseball writers suggest the latter)

    ———–

    I think it’s a little of both.

    They’ve had to adjust their philosophy because the market has changed. They can no longer rely on obtaining big guns via free agency because fewer and fewer of them are becoming available.

    Smaller market teams have much more money than they did 5-6 years ago and they are using that cash to lock up their younger players to long term contracts.

    And the Yanks have greatly benefited in recent years by relying on their young players and promoting from within (Robertson, Nova, Joba, Hughes, Gardner, etc, etc.).

  11. ctyankeefan. December 10th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    I think last year was more a case of Lee signing with the Phillies and there not being anyone else left good enough to sign.

  12. pudinhand December 10th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Prus, he leary rike rold sealies ling.

  13. Nilsson December 10th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    On a slightly different note, just read somewhere there’s a movie coming soon on Jackie Robinson. Harrison Ford will play Branch Rickey. Han Solo/Indy Jones will be Branch Rickey. Man, I’m getting old.

  14. m December 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    It’s Nakajima.

    Naka=inside
    Shima=island

    Naka+shima=Nakajima

    No charge for the Japanese lesson. ;)

  15. m December 10th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Nilsson,

    Watched ‘Morning Glory’ the other day. Cute little movie, but man Harrison Ford looks old. Still fit, but looks old. In contrast, his co-star Dianne Keaton still looks fabulous.

  16. m December 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    No word if Lucchino was drunk, but man he waxes poetic about Fenway. Also slips in the collapse. IMO, he could have left that part out. :P

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b....._fe_2.html

  17. GreenBeret7 December 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    That’s the difference between going natural and having a good surgeon.

  18. Nilsson December 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    I’ll have to check out Morning Glory, haven’t seen it yet.

  19. austinmac December 10th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    m,

    Don’t know if you saw my post the other day. Loved Sherlock.

  20. JD December 10th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    My two cents is he’ll sign. Yankees didn’t invest too much in the posting that they would feel bad about a short term contract. He’ll get his shot with injuries and such. If he’s better than nunie then he’ll get plenty of playing time.

  21. m December 10th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Rachel McAdams is SASSY in it.

    If you have a ton of time, there’s a feel good movie on Netflix called “The Winning Season” about this drunk guy who coaches a group of 5 girls +1 on crutches in girl’s high school basketball. Has that guy from Matchstick Men, something Rockwell.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Verlander is perhaps a bad comparison, think about how many great starters didn’t have their first really great season until they were 25 or 26… Look at Cliff Lee – he was 29 before he had a great season (and had a 5.43 ERA in his age 25 season). Point is – he is still relatively young as starters go and I think he has it in him to have a breakout season still.
    ///

    Yeah, some fans have indulged their own foundation-less “cutoff” age for young pitchers at 25. LOL.
    ///

    On Hughes having a “tired” arm: the guy had a jump of some 90 innings, more than doubling his 2009 and trumping his previous high of 116 (which was 2006, not really relevant any more considering what followed). Um, not exactly uncommon, Donny dude.

  23. m December 10th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    austin,

    Yeah, I saw it. Glad you like them. Hopefully there’s more coming out.

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    ^^^Sorry, the first part of post was in response to PacoDooley’s comments about ages of pitchers turning a corner…

  25. tucker December 10th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Does the posting and potential signing of Nakajima have any bearing on the team’s intention w/Yu? The Red Sox signed Okijima the same year they got Dice-K.

  26. DONNYBROOK December 10th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    - GEN. FRANCO -
    Yanks went hard after Lee, so the Yankee philosophy has Not changed. With the Big Time $$$ even utility guys are now making, in many cases it truly is NOT the $$$ that players are looking for. Playing where you are happy is Now the primary concern, which is why established players are re-upping Before becoming eligible to file for free agency. Top Tier players are somewhat obligated and pressured by their Union to file for free agency and reap the biggest $$$ contract possible as, “a rising tide lifts ALL boats. But as for the Yanks, they Will still spend the coin for a quality free agent atta position of need. Enter Darvish stage left.

  27. DONNYBROOK December 10th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    -PRUFROCK-
    Your also getting into Lefty SP’s taking longer to develop than Righties.

  28. RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Yeah, I think there’s good reason to have faith in Hughes this season. I think this season will be indicative of where his career will go. Of course one season isn’t the end all be all, but we’ll have a pretty good idea at the end of 2012 what quality of pitcher he is.

  29. Barry December 10th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    The Hughes Verlander comparison isn’t “perhaps” poor, it is way off the mark. Hughes does not have similar talent or upside. And, what fans believe, contrary to the stuff on this blog, carries zero weight with those in decision making positions.

  30. LGY December 10th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    At least Phil Hughes doesn’t look this this

    http://twitter.com/#!/Dutch_Ov.....49/photo/1

  31. RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Barry December 10th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    The Hughes Verlander comparison isn’t “perhaps” poor, it is way off the mark. Hughes does not have similar talent or upside. And, what fans believe, contrary to the stuff on this blog, carries zero weight with those in decision making positions.
    ————

    You’re totally missing the point. The point is not that Hughes may become as great as Verlander, I don’t think anyone on the planet would suggest that. The point is young pitchers struggle for various reasons.

    I would say that the comparison is off the mark too. I think Verlander said his problem that season was not a physical one, but a mechanical one. Hughes’ issues were largely physical. And it is well documented that young pitchers have issues if their work load suddenly jumps, the Verducci effect. It’s completely logical. Anyone who’s ever worked out a gym knows you need to slowly increase work load or else it can hurt your body.

  32. RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    LGY December 10th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
    At least Phil Hughes doesn’t look this this

    http://twitter.com/#!/Dutch_Ov…..49/photo/1
    ———

    Wow. That’s a pretty awful picture haha. He looks 30lbs fatter too.

  33. waka flocka December 10th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    how long before we start to admit that Hughes is never going to be what we were dreaming about in 2005? how old and injury prone must you be to stop having the word “upside” handcuffed to your wrist?

  34. Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Really tied of this hughes overweight nonsense.

  35. Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    waka – 3 years.

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    You’re totally missing the point. The point is not that Hughes may become as great as Verlander, I don’t think anyone on the planet would suggest that. The point is young pitchers struggle for various reasons.
    ///

    That’s valid as the overall point, the specific point was having a “tired” arm after a significant innings jump is not uncommon and is not an accurate way to gauge what a pitcher might do going forward (which leads back to the overall point: YOUNG).

    Donny, Bumgarner’s the lefty, Verlander’s a righty. Handedness has nothing to do with having a “tired” arm after jumping innings..

    I find some have a point they want to make and instead of making it on its own, they try to coattail a post so they can have a “reply” to feign some context, regardless of whether their response makes sense to what they pretend to be responding to……

    Time to walk the fake dog…

  37. waka flocka December 10th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    they should put him in he bullpen. unlike someone else *coughJobacough* he actually deserves to be considered as a guy whose stuff plays better in the bullpen.

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock December 10th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Barry December 10th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    The Hughes Verlander comparison isn’t “perhaps” poor, it is way off the mark.
    ////

    Hey Barry, let’s find where anyone said that Hughes was on par stuff-wise with Justin Verlander….go ahead, knock yourself out….

    Dog now threatening to spoil the rug…(also imaginary).

    Ciao

  39. Gary December 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    So, you would assign a higher probability to Darvish–a guy that has never pitched in the Major Leagues– being a dominant number-2 starter in the Major Leagues than to the likelihood that Hamels might be a free agent next year? Interesting
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    I’ll be generous that Hamel wants to be a FA, that he wants to leave the NL, and that the Yanks are able to sign him. I don’t think it’s 50/50 probability for all those, but lets assume for the moment that they are. I’ll also just for the moment assume that he would be as effective here as he is there in a non DH league. The odds are 1 chance in 10 of getting him, I sure would not be basing my future strategy on such a low possibility.

  40. RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    I can’t wait until next Wednesday. Once Yu Darvish is off the board either way, I can stop caring so much :P

  41. RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    The odds are 1 chance in 10 of getting him, I sure would not be basing my future strategy on such a low possibility.
    ———–

    I’d roll with those odds. A lot of teams would bid on him, including the Phillies and he’ll go wherever he thinks he’ll be happiest.

    I support players not just signing for the Yankees for the money. I want guys that actually want to be here.

  42. Gary December 10th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    I can’t wait until next Wednesday. Once Yu Darvish is off the board either way, I can stop caring so much

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Radio, I don’t think it’s Wednesday. I think there is another 4 day period after that for the Nippon club to accept the posting, then starts the 30 day negotiation. Yu are going to hear this for awhile.

  43. RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    Nooooooo

  44. Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Wednesday we find out who won the bid. That’s all that matters.

  45. Pat M. December 10th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    It’s always amusing to read the rants and misdirected arguments…….As for Hughes, here’s the point, when he’s right he’s a very good starting pitcher…….I do agree that this is a must prove season for him as a Yankee but not as a MLB starting pitcher…..You just don’t want to give up on a talent like him……Keep in mind, by the time he was Manny B’s age he was already pitching in the Yanks rotation………Although I was excited and in the belief that he was ready for The Bronx, the only person here back then to go on the record that it was too soon was Randy I…..Randy was quite adamant about that……..I can easily see Hughes being a 17 game winner in 2012…..

  46. Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    pat m – I’m not even concerned with the “results” of Hughes this season, I just want to see some consistent action on his pitches. When he shows up 3-4 games in a row with the same stuff we might be getting somewhere. Hughes has been in a perpetual “building” mode with the strength of his arm, here’s hoping he can stay healthy and put this all behind him.

  47. Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Is anyone else a little upset they knocked 50 games off Manny’s suspension? Storming off like a baby when you fail a drug test is now being rewarded…

  48. LGY December 10th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Maybe Hughes ate the other 50 games.

  49. Gary December 10th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    Wednesday we find out who won the bid. That’s all that matters.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    I still don’t think it’s Wednesday. Here was the timeline on Dice K I think there are more days in there then we are accounting for beyond the 4 days for the actual bids to be submitted.

    On November 2, Matsuzaka was officially granted permission by the Lions to pursue a career in Major League Baseball via the posting system.

    On November 14, the Boston Red Sox won the bidding rights to Matsuzaka with a bid of $51,111,111.11, outbidding the Texas Rangers, New York Mets, and New York Yankees.[

  50. Gary December 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    I think based on what I read there is a second step beyond Wednesday. I don’t think anything can be announced until AFTER the home club makes their decision per the last sentence.

    When a player under contract with a Nippon Professional Baseball team wishes to play in Major League Baseball, he must notify his current team’s management and request that they make him available for posting during the next posting period (November 1 – March 1).[4] The NPB team can reject this request, and the player will not be posted.[22] However, if the team consents, the player is presented to the MLB Commissioner. The Commissioner then notifies all MLB teams of the posted player and holds a four-day-long silent auction during which interested MLB teams submit sealed bids in U.S. dollars to the Commissioner’s Office. After the allotted four days have passed, the Commissioner closes the bidding process and notifies the posted player’s NPB team of the highest bid amount but not who the bidding team is. The NPB team then has four days to either accept or reject the non-negotiable bid amount.[16]

  51. Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Right, so Wednesday (the first 4 days) we should know who won the bid. Unless they don’t leak that information for… some reason. Then they have 4 days to accept it.

    All that matters is winning the bid.

  52. RadioKev December 10th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Is it possible to block bidding by submitting a ridiculous posting fee of say $100 million with no intention of actually signing the player? What would happen in that case?

  53. Yank 97 December 10th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    keithlaw
    I’m shocked CJ Wilson was willing to sign with Anaheim even though he won’t get to work with that proven winner, Jeff Mathis

  54. Gary December 10th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    Right, so Wednesday (the first 4 days) we should know who won the bid. Unless they don’t leak that information for… some reason. Then they have 4 days to accept it.

    All that matters is winning the bid.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Not the way I read it. Note again the last two sentence’s. No team name is communicated until after the second four day period. I don’t expect there to be leaks, it took 12 days after the posting announcement for Dice K to be announced with respect to the winning team.

    After the allotted four days have passed, the Commissioner closes the bidding process and notifies the posted player’s NPB team of the highest bid amount but not who the bidding team is. The NPB team then has four days to either accept or reject the non-negotiable bid amount.[16]

  55. Gary December 10th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    I guess the NPB team could accept the bid anytime druing the 4 days they have. I don’t know if the process has to run the 4 days or could end earlier then that? At any rate I’m pretty sure that no team is announced before it goes through that second phase.

  56. Irreverent Discourse December 10th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Gary – Yeah, I was just wading through google news and it doesn’t look like the winning bid leaked until the 6th or 7th business day after he was posted. Oddly it was a similar situation where he was posted right before the weekend… so hopefully we will know by the end of the week.

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