Garcia contract update, plus other notes and links
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 12, 2011 
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Earlier today, The Associated Press moved this update on Freddy Garcia’s contract.
NEW YORK (AP) — Freddy Garcia can make up to $5,575,000 with the New York Yankees.
The 35-year-old right-hander is guaranteed $4 million under the one-year contract that was finalized Friday. He would make $250,000 each for 25, 27, 29 and 30 starts, plus $275,000 for his 31st start and $300,000 for his 32nd start.
Garcia was 12-8 with a 3.62 ERA in 25 starts and one relief appearance last season. He had a $1.5 million base salary and made an additional $1.85 million in performance bonuses for a total of $3.35 million.
• Adding to the ongoing question of John Danks as a potential trade target, Jon Heyman tweeted today that the White Sox have asked for two of Jesus Montero, Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances. I believe earlier reports said Montero and Banuelos, but subbing Betances for one of those two probably doesn’t make much of a difference. Still a huge price to pay.
• Writing about today’s non-tender deadline, good friend Tim Britton — did some Yankees coverage for MLB.com two years ago — looked at the acquisition and current role of Alfredo Aceves in Boston.
• Ken Rosenthal reports that the Rockies are being aggressive in their pursuit of Michael Cuddyer. He’s another guy who had some Yankees fans attention before the Yankees made it clear they weren’t spending big on a bat this offseason.
• The Blue Jays picked up a solid fourth outfielder today, trading for the Phillies Ben Francisco. Toronto gave up reliever Frank Gailey in return.
• Albert Pujols’ wife isn’t thrilled with the St. Louis Cardinals.
Associated Press photo
Joba’s been watching Fear Factor tonight.
“i feel awkward watching and listening to these conversations! EXES! #fearfactor”
Is his ex-girlfriend on Fear Factor or something?
“It’s just like God,” she said at the end of the interview, “to put us on a team called the Angels.” (Diedre Pujols)
Oh, Lord.
Hong-Chih Kuo wasn’t tendered a contract. The Yankees should offer him an mL contract.
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
Also 1 other small hunch, if Gorzelanny non-tendered by #Nationals, gut is #Yankees will go after. Pitched well as LH rlvr late last yr
7 hours ago
Always consider the player from Taiwan.
““It’s just like God,” she said at the end of the interview, “to put us on a team called the Angels.” (Diedre Pujols)”
Question:
Why is it considered taboo to make fun of peoples religion if it’s Muslim, Hindu or Judaism, but it’s pefectly acceptable and commonplace to criticize Christians?
I am not particularly religious myself, and do not mean to single anyone out. Just posing a question based on what seems to be an unfair currently socially acceptable norm.
Then, again, maybe Kuo isn’t such a good choice to sign. He just had elbow surgery.
Well if someone said, “It’s just like Allah (or Buddha) to put us on a team named the (insert appropriate team name)” then I would have panned that, too.
First of all, God didn’t put them on the team. Albert & Diedre made the decision after Moreno lost his mind. Second, it was a bad pun.
Why is it considered taboo to make fun of peoples religion if it’s Muslim, Hindu or Judaism, but it’s pefectly acceptable and commonplace to criticize Christians?
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Because Christians aren’t funny terrorists that pray to bronze gods?
Interesting discussion on the previous thread. If the Yanks packaged Swisher and Burnett in a trade, swallowed some dollars of their $27 million next year and landed a middle of the rotation SP and then signed Beltran on a 2-3 year deal to play RF that might be a nice deal depending on who the pitcher in trade may be.
Swisher is a nice player who I believe will make $10.25 million this coming year but don’t think he will be a $14-$15 million dollar OF’er for the NYY going forward after this year.
RSM December 12th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
““It’s just like God,” she said at the end of the interview, “to put us on a team called the Angels.” (Diedre Pujols)”
Question:
Why is it considered taboo to make fun of peoples religion if it’s Muslim, Hindu or Judaism, but it’s pefectly acceptable and commonplace to criticize Christians?
I am not particularly religious myself, and do not mean to single anyone out. Just posing a question based on what seems to be an unfair currently socially acceptable norm.
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I tend to agree that you’ve hit on a troubling double standard. However, in this case, I think that your concern may be misplaced. The quote is lame, and the groans that it elicits aren’t necessarily anti-Christian. Sometimes, a banana is just a banana.
Is it fun to poke at the ‘Hare Krishna’ freaks standing on street corners chanting, burning incense, dancing around in robes, begging for donations with no shoes on etc……………………heck yeah. Do your personal business at home.
Then, again, maybe Kuo isn’t such a good choice to sign. He just had elbow surgery.
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Because a non-guaranteed mL contract carries so much risk.
Let Boston sign him. 5 elbow surgeries, elbow pain every spring and he isn’t sure if he wants to pitch again? You’ve missed your calling. You should be a scout…for the Red Sox or Mets.
I believe Kuo was treated for social anxiety disorder
Kuo’s agent, Alan Chang, said Kuo plans to play again next season.
“There’s no thought of retirement,” Chang said
Go for Micah Owings for pinch hitting
At the end of the season, he remarked that he was undecided about if he wanted to continue playing.[8]
Following the season, Kuo developed soreness in his left elbow while preparing to play in an exhibition series against the Taiwan National Team and had to undergo his fifth operation on the elbow.[9] He became a free agent when the Dodgers declined to tender him a contract on December 12.
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it’s a waste on paper and ink
Trader, when Owings failed as a pitcher, couldn’t understand why he didn’t convert to an outfielder or 1st baseman.
[Sponichi] Notes a Boston Globe article by Nick Cafardo from 12/11 that mentions the following quote from Mike Brown, Arizona Diamondbacks’ scout and former pitching coach for the Nippon Ham Fighters: “He’s the real deal. … He’s got great stuff, a great presence on the mound. He would definitely be a top pitcher here if he comes out.”
LOL. At the end of October his agent said he doesn’t plan to retire. Only you can get so worked up over a suggested ST invite. It’s hilarious.
How about you spend more time mourning the loss of Raul Valdes.
If lefty Gorzelanny becomes available might be a good pickup as spot starter reliever-very effective against lefties this season
Even for you, the idea of signing a pitcher just having his 5th elbow surgery is pretty stupid.
Why am I worked up but, you who keeps yammering aren’t?
Tom, Gorzelanny is probably one of three that I’d go after, possibly the main one if he could make an emergency start or two as well as long and short relief.
Question:
Why is it considered taboo to make fun of peoples religion if it’s Muslim, Hindu or Judaism, but it’s pefectly acceptable and commonplace to criticize Christians?
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Double standards aren’t fair, but it’s weak when the powerful majority cries foul. Most Christians in this country aren’t affected by discrimination and racial profiling the same way those religions are.
Those religions are under represented in just about every way in our country, culturally socially and politically, while Christian views are over represented in a country that’s founded on the separation between church and state.
Anyway…back to baseball..
Yakyubaka.com is a good site for the latest rumors on Japanese players.
I believe it was mike Brown I heard on XM radio who said Darvish will need to pitch down more in the zone but after an adjustment period pitching to good hitters 1-9 he would excel.
And I’ll also appreciate that racial profiling isn’t the correct term for profiling against people of certain religions, but with these things it often goes hand in hand.
Do we find out Wednesday after 5 PM EST who got the rights to Darvish or do we have to wait up to another four days for the ham fighters to decide whether they want to accept the bid?
“I think we should probably ignore twitterers we have absolutely no reason to believe like Lost and YankeeSource”
A man after my own heart. I say ignore all but the official notification!
I think we have to wait up to four days for the Fighters to decide. I’m sure somebody will put up at least 30-35 and it’s practically guaranteed the bid will be accepted.
Trisha – As Yogi said it ain’t over till the fat lady sings
I’m not at all bothered by the Deidre Pujols comment. I am believing it comes from the heart and I admire anyone who has a thing for the Lord and isn’t afraid or ashamed to put it out there. It’s not vogue to give public praise to the Lord but it’s sure okay to glorify sex, money, and turn our heads to steroid use – meaning that we have some pretty twisted values there, sports fans.
For my money, go God. And I don’t worry about being judged by my contemporaries since they don’t either pay my bills or run my life.
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Radio Kev, it’s not unusual for a society founded by and heavily populated by christian sects to have the major representation in that society. And any discrimination, whether it be against a majority or a minority, is discrimination. It doesn’t sting any less if you happen to be in the majority! Ask white males who have felt the sting of “reverse discrimination”.
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GO YANKEES!
The always connected Jon Heyman will certainly have the inside scoop by 4:01 EST on Wednesday as to which team won the bid and how much it was for!
Good night all.
Will Boras allow Heyman to release any scoops before Boras gets the rest of his clients signed?
I’m still guessing 40 mil post and 40 mil to sign YU.
Diedre Pujols is allowed to say whatever she wants. Especially since the Christian radio station was funded by her husband and herself.
But anyway, that’s all besides the point. I’m sure that the people of St. Louis feel much better knowing that it was all part of His plan to have Pujols go play for the Angels.
Seriously, though. What’s with the personal services contract? You can read into that all kinds of ways. That really cuts ties with the Cardinals. 20 years is a long time.
Rangers in a slight financial bind according to Rosenthal.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ter-121211
sounwhatds like good idea..===============somewhat…
4 NYY December 13th, 2011 at 12:45 am
I’m still guessing 40 mil post and 40 mil to sign YU.
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And I am guessing that, overall, YU are about $40M light….
Perhaps Jeter ticked off the New York Post… http://nyp.st/vNjJPt
Don’t Yu dare think about pinstripes just yet.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....AoRK5boyrK
Martin for a multi-tear contract? Maybe.
If that happens, doesn’t mean that Montero is gone, but, you can almost bet that Romine or Cervelli will be gone by July.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....um=twitter
GreenBeret7 December 12th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Why is it considered taboo to make fun of peoples religion if it’s Muslim, Hindu or Judaism, but it’s pefectly acceptable and commonplace to criticize Christians?
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Because Christians aren’t funny terrorists that pray to bronze gods
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Crusades anyone?
“I’m not at all bothered by the Deidre Pujols comment. I am believing it comes from the heart and I admire anyone who has a thing for the Lord and isn’t afraid or ashamed to put it out there. It’s not vogue to give public praise to the Lord but it’s sure okay to glorify sex, money, and turn our heads to steroid use – meaning that we have some pretty twisted values there, sports fans.
For my money, go God. And I don’t worry about being judged by my contemporaries since they don’t either pay my bills or run my life.
Radio Kev, it’s not unusual for a society founded by and heavily populated by christian sects to have the major representation in that society. And any discrimination, whether it be against a majority or a minority, is discrimination. It doesn’t sting any less if you happen to be in the majority! Ask white males who have felt the sting of “reverse discrimination”.
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trisha: intelligent post. Set the secularists and anti-Christians straight. Soid work.
co-signed.
Why not LH Joe Saunders ? Cashman and his pal Kevin Towers can talk reasonable. Saunders has AL experience. The Snakes just added Trevor Cahill and Craig Breslow.
Add Tom Gorzelanny and Cashman’s work is done. He gets his pitchers.
Tired of the heavy demands of Kenny Williams to get Danks who can be had in a year with free agency.
http://diamondbacks.mlb.com/te....._id=434578
I don’t think m was mocking christianity in general or Mrs. Pujols’ faith specifically. She was just reacting to a corny statement – and it was a bit corny, heartfelt and sincere or not. (I’ve said similar things all my life – just because it’s there, you know?)
Anyway, it’s a shame that they have to go out there and justify their decision. In the long run, I think the Cardinals may be better off. If he was looking for a 10-year-contract, it really is in his best interest to be in the AL, where there is more flexibility for an aging player. The Cardinals really may have found themselves hamstrung in the latter years of the deal. And the Angels simply made an offer that no one could refuse. 10 years more of playing and then the next 10 years employed in the organization.
This article is talking about Saunders with respect to Boston, but I think the message is the same for the Yankees. He pitches to contact, and in the AL East, that can be a bad thing.
Also, what explains his “downfall” for lack of a better word at 7:24 in the morning? He was really quite good for 2 years, and then, at least with a glance at his stats, seems to have become pedestrian.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/12/jo.....t-fit.html
He’s not a #2, and that’s what the Yankees are looking for, right?
Morning, I can’t believe that there would be this level of money paid just to go to out to the mound. I hope the Yanks think there isn’t much probability to make such a offer.
The 35-year-old right-hander is guaranteed $4 million under the one-year contract that was finalized Friday. He would make $250,000 each for 25, 27, 29 and 30 starts, plus $275,000 for his 31st start and $300,000 for his 32nd start.
Saunders isn’t the kind of addition I think they are looking for……aside from being left handed he’s really a lateral move (of worse) for the back end of their rotation……makes a lot of sense for Boston though.
Add Tom Gorzelanny and Cashman’s work is done.
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Gorzelanny held lefties to a .157 BAA. Unfortunately he was not non tendered by the Nats.
I would have liked Jeff Keppinger, until I noticed that he now has only played 2B the last 2 years.
Micah Owings might be worth a shot-pitched fairly well for the Diamondbacks.Would be a great pinch hitter.
Gary-
Wonder if Garcia has a “kitchen clause” in his contract to stay away from knives.
Anyone remember when Micah Owings was “the guy” Cashman needed to get?
Villa-
Morning. I need to look up the pitcher the Yankees finally decided on when Randy Johnon was traded back to Arizona. Owings was on that list of available pitchers.
New York would receive Luis Vizcaino and minor league right-handers Ross Ohlendorf and Steven Jackson, and shortstop Alberto Gonzalez, a baseball official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The Yankees also would pay $2 million of Randy Johnson’s $16 million salary this year.
Yankee Trader December 13th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Gary-
Wonder if Garcia has a “kitchen clause” in his contract to stay away from knives.
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I wonder if he has anything relating to using AAA pitches late in the season vrs starting him
No real news or new rumors about the Yanks this morning. The one piece was that the Rangers say they are after pitching (not relating to Darvish), but the other names are basically the same ones that get mentioned in the Yanks rumors. Kind of makes sense as there isn’t much left out there to go around.
So where is Price going?……Boras has done his littleyear dance now and all the other big dogs have signed…….so that should pick up soon.
Cubs, Rangers, Nats, Mariners, Marlins should be somewhat of a list of suitors I would think…….
One non tender lefty reliever that might be worth a look on a minor league deal is Hong-Chih Kuo. Coming of elbow surgery for a bone chip and dealing with social anxiety disorder.
October 26, 2011|By Dylan Hernandez
Hong-Chih Kuo is scheduled to undergo his fifth elbow operation Friday, but his agent said he intends to pitch next season — even if it’s not for the Dodgers.
“There’s no thought of retirement,” Alan Chang said. “He’s fully committed and highly motivated to do what it takes.”
In the final month of the regular season, Kuo sounded uncertain about his plans for 2012, telling The Times he wanted to pitch but telling mlb.com he might want to run a restaurant in his native Taiwan instead. In addition to dealing with elbow problems, Kuo had to overcome an anxiety disorder that sidelined him for five weeks.
blake -
Prince, right? LOL
For a couple of seconds I thought the Rays went nuts and released David Price. Then the coffee kicked in.
The Rangers almost have to add a starter…….id love to block Darvish from them and then force them to over pay in a trade or go into the season with a weak rotation.
If the Yanks believe Darvish is for real then they should bid whatever number they believe will win the posting and then set a number they feel is fair on the contract and not budge much at all.
Yea yea Prince……if Price were available I know where he’d be going
Blake-
Haven’t read of any rumors that the Rays are offering David Price. Wade Davis is the one available. I would think that James Shields will be available at some point in the season as his 2013 and 2014 club options are 9M and 12M.
That gave me a start too Villa…I think Blake is seeing if we are paying attention this am!
And unlike some…..I think it’ll take at least 50 million to win the posting on Darvish …….there has been precedent set for that number and these things rarely go backward…..especially when every report is that Darvish is much better than Dice K and younger. If the Yankees really want to win the bid they’ll put 55 million on the table…..because I think somebody else will go 50…..JMO
Trader,
I meant Prince
just checking to see if you’re awake 
Why the Rangers might be out on signing a big ticket FA-Ken Rosenthal:
Once the Rangers add the salaries of their nine players who are eligible for arbitration, their payroll likely will surpass $105 million, according to projections by Cot’s Baseball Contracts and MLBTradeRumors.com. Their Opening Day payroll last season was $92.3 million.
The owners also are incurring other expenses, including a $30 million payment to former CEO Chuck Greenberg and $12 million in stadium improvements, according to The Dallas Morning News. The payment to Greenberg is due around the same time the Rangers would need to pay Darvish’s posting fee if they had the high bid for his negotiating rights, a source said.
Meanwhile, the Rangers’ reported new 20-year, $1.6 billion TV contract with FOX Sports Southwest does not start until 2015. The Angels’ reported new 20-year, $3 billion contract with FOX Sports West begins next season.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ter-121211
Blake-
Didn’t you mention a few weeks ago that David Price might be made available as he’s nearing expensive arb years?
Fielder between Cubs and Mariners with Cubs winning?
“I would think that James Shields will be available at some point in the season as his 2013 and 2014 club options are 9M and 12M.”
However…..I wouldn’t be shocked if Friedman were shopping Price behind the scene just to see if he coukd get a monster package. Price is going to get very expensive in arbitration over the next 3 years …….and he would figure to bring a bigged return than Shields. The Rays have done things like this before…..Garza was getting expensive and would bring more in return than some if their other guys…..so while he was probably their 2nd best pitcher in 2010…..they traded him
Perhaps that’s why the Rangers are shopping for a trade so hard……..paying 30 million to Greenberg…..12 million for the stadium…..and 50 million for Darvish all at one time would likely be frowned upon by ownership.
That’s still just speculation by Rosenthal….so you never know.
Teams “rumored” from different sources to be interested in competing for Yu Darvish. Why they might not be serious suitors:
Rangers-read the Rosenthal article above.
Red Sox-will go over the luxury tax threshold which they want to avoid, and still interested in signing a closer-Madson.
Angels-could be a smoke screen but GM has stated they are happy with their SP
Marlins-Already spent more than expected and are “praying” that they will fill the new stadium to pay for their players.
Blue Jays and Nationals-Might be in it-but to win it??
And then there is the Yankees-Will they be in it, and will they essentially be bidding against themselves?
Any others that you have heard rumored to be willing to bid big bucks??
Trader,
Not specifically but you always have to throw the Nats in there…..they have the cash and I could see them bidding aggressively to try and set up a Strasburg, Darvish, Zimmerman front 3……they’ve seen first hand what a star player and hype can do for a franchise.
blake December 13th, 2011 at 8:08 am
And unlike some…..I think it’ll take at least 50 million to win the posting on Darvish …….there has been precedent set for that number and these things rarely go backward…..especially when every report is that Darvish is much better than Dice K and younger. If the Yankees really want to win the bid they’ll put 55 million on the table…..because I think somebody else will go 50…..JMO
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Blake I think we could see a number in that neighborhood. I suspect the Yanks will be working today to put the finishing touches on the bid, that would then give them tommorow to just sleep on it and do any last minute tweaks if they need to. Can’t believe if they are a serious bidder that they don’t have their number unless there is some breaking trade movement that they may have been working in parallel.
Also, believe I heard the Mariners could bid, and then trade off some of their younger pitchers for hitting. No King felix wasn’t mentioned.
Yankee Trader December 13th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Teams “rumored” from different sources to be interested in competing for Yu Darvish. Why they might not be serious suitors:
Rangers-read the Rosenthal article above.
Red Sox-will go over the luxury tax threshold which they want to avoid, and still interested in signing a closer-Madson.
Angels-could be a smoke screen but GM has stated they are happy with their SP
Marlins-Already spent more than expected and are “praying” that they will fill the new stadium to pay for their players.
Blue Jays and Nationals-Might be in it-but to win it??
And then there is the Yankees-Will they be in it, and will they essentially be bidding against themselves?
Any others that you have heard rumored to be willing to bid big bucks??
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I think you have the list of the main caracters, I might put the Cubs in there also. Probably 2-3 on this list that won’t make a bid at all, and a couple that just make a let me see if I can steal it. I think there are probably three teams that would be in to win it and willing to make the big bid to win it. Yanks, Rangers, Blue Jays
Yankee Trader December 13th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Also, believe I heard the Mariners could bid, and then trade off some of their younger pitchers for hitting. No King felix wasn’t mentioned.
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I don’t know what their situation on money is, but given their success with Ichiro they might be less concerned about the Japanese effect. I don’t think they have the money.
Think the Nats will be serious players in this Darvish thing.
Personally, I hope the Yankees get Yu Darvish. The pros outweigh the cons on him and he would add a level of excitement along with Montero to the Yankees this year. I would however expect that he will need some time to get used to pitching more down in the zone and to hitters 1-9.
Realistically the Yankees, IMO, really want to make sure they are below a 40 man payroll of 189M for the start of the 2014 season, for reasons discussed here. They’ll have guaranteed contracts at that time of some 78M to ARod, Tex, CC, and Jeter if he picks up his 8M player option, as well as new contracts for Cano and probably Granderson, pushing the payroll perhaps to around 115M or so for 6 players.
Have to go for now. Until later-have a great day all.
“Think the Nats will be serious players in this Darvish thing.”
Me too…..this has their name written all over it and they have been quite so far this winter.
Yeah, the Nats could come up with the “one crazy bidder” bid. Look at what they did last season with “whatshisname” that ended up framing the entire FA market last season. Gosh, why can’t I think of his name?
Werth
Right now the Yanks have around 75 million committed to 2014……they’ll have some money coming off before then and the big sold cards are Cano, Granderson, and Jeters option that year.
Just from a projection standpoint they look in better shape to get under that 189 with a competitive team than Boston does to me…..the Red Sox already have 94 million on the books for 2014……
*wild cards*
Thanks, upstate kate.
the Red Sox already have 94 million on the books for 2014
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They’ll get a small break by backloading some of those deals. For example, even though Pedroia is paid $10M, he’s only at $6.75M on the luxury tax. If Lester’s $13M option is picked up, his lux tax hit would be $7.1M. Lackey’s number drops to $13.8 from $16.5 because of a clause that dictates an injury automatically triggers vesting of a 6th year at the league minimum, so 5/$82M becomes 6/$83M.
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Enough of Whu? Darvish!
Nomo
Irabu
Chen
Matsuzaka
Kuroda
Igawa
Each Japanese starting pitcher worse than the next until Kuroda who is a bump up from Matsuzaka then it’s back to crap with Igawa.
History shows Japanese starting pitchers are not worth the years and money twofold:
1. As starting pitchers for the Yankees (Irabu and Igawa.)
2. As starting pitchers for anyone.
Nomo was/is the best of the above list, but he was the first and his best seasons were his first three and he got worse with each year.
History shows Darvish could easily be another bust.
Sabathia/Burnett/Nova/Hughes/Garcia to start 2012.
Matt Cain and Cole Hamels will (hopefully) be free agents after 2012.
The Yanks should not partake in the posting fee anymore.
If the Yanks aren’t involved, who would be?
The Red Sox posted what they did for Matsuzaka in direct response to the Yanks posting what they did for Igawa.
Those posting fees were the first, only, and last big ones.
I say send the Japanese League a message: no more posting fees or you can keep your players.