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A young perspective on Curtis Granderson

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 19, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I got this email just before the Winter Meetings. A 10-year-old named Haley Smilow went with her family on a baseball road trip this summer — 26 games in seven stadiums in the month of August — and along the way, she did a Q&A with Curtis Granderson for Baseball Youth Magazine.

Her family, with permission from the magazine, passed along the interview.

1.) In August my family is following the Yankees to US Cellular Field, Kauffman Stadium, Target Field and Camden Yards with stops at Miller Park, Wrigley and Busch Stadium. Do you have a favorite ballpark and why? Is there a ballpark where you feel you always play well other than Yankee Stadium?

I like the Anaheim Angles Stadium because it has good weather to play in and the playing surface is well taken care of, making it a nice place to play ball. I also enjoy the Rally Monkey because he is fun to watch but as a player it means that the Angels are doing well. Other stadiums that I like to play in are Mariners Safeco Field and of course at home in Chicago at US Cellular Field and Wrigley.

2.) Since I am going to be in Chicago, who has the best Pizza in Chicago? Who in New York? Do you like Deep Dish or Thin Crust Pizza?

My favorite Pizzerias in Chicago are Lou Malnali’s, Giordanos and Gino’s and in New York Artichoke Basille’s. Sometimes I like Dominos thin crust pizza, because I like my crust crunchy. If I am really hungry I will order deep dish.

3.) Coney Island Hot Dogs or Nathan’s Hot Dogs?

Since I played in Detroit I would have to say Coney Island Hot Dog’s

4.) What is your favorite meal?

I really love Thanksgiving dinner because you get to eat a little bit of everything and you can go back over and over for more helpings.

5.) My little brother is a fan of WWE, I heard you are as well. Who are some of you favorite wrestlers of today?

Of course I like CM Punk because he is a great wrestler and from Chicago. Jon Cena is another favorite. I also like the Diva’s because they work hard and are as good as the guys.

a.) Do you have any brothers or sisters?
I have an older half sister, Monica.

6.) In your book All You Can Be: Dream It, Draw It, Become It, you share the lessons that you learned growing up, what is one lesson you would tell the Baseball Youth readers if they haven’t read the book?

The selection of friends, good and bad, positive or negative and the people you surround yourself with, will shape your whole life.

7.) I also know you are an ambassador for MLB and have traveled to England, Italy, South Africa, China, and New Zealand is there any place you would really like to go and represent MLB?

I have never been to South America so that would be amazing. I would also like to go to Japan and Australia, those would be on my top 3 list.

8.) Why did you choose the #28 in Detroit and #14 in New York?

I was given the #28 in college, which was great because the numbers 2 and 8 are my favorite numbers, so it was both of them together. When I became a Yankee Joe Girardi was #28 so I chose #14 because that was my number from high school.

9.) I get to go to a lot of Yankees games and have noticed that you have two rituals can you to explain them?

a.) When you step up to the plate you tap it with the bat from left to right then the top, why?
No particular reason I guess it is just a habit.

b.) When you are leading off from first and the pitcher makes a move you always walk around first base same way every time, why?
Because I don’t want to get picked off or called out.

c.) Do you have any other rituals or superstions?
I only chew sugar free bubble gum. Curtis asked Haley “Do you like gum?” make sure you take a hand full when you leave the dug out.

10.) What is it like in the dugout before and after a game?

It is a fun place filled with energy and lots of handshakes. We are always meeting people before games. After the game it depends if we won or lost. If we win everyone is happy and celebrating and if we lost we need to move on to the next game.

11.) When you are on the road do you share rooms with your teammates?

In the majors we get our own rooms. In the minors we share rooms. I used to share with Ryan Raburn, Joel Zumaya and David Espinosa.

12.) AJ Burnett has created a celebration for a walk off win, a pie in the face. Have you ever gotten pied?

No, I have not been pied. If I get pied it means we won, but I am afraid it will burn.

13.) Who is the biggest practical joker you have ever been on a team with? Have you ever been the victim of a practical joke?

Brandon Inge on the Tigers will do funny pranks, silly ones and even some gross ones. We had a little battle going when I played for Detroit. Once I opened his car and filled it with paper and construction tape making it a big mess inside the car and out. Jorge Posada is a real joker as well.

14.) In 2007 you became just one of four players in MLB history to record 20 doubles, 20 triples, 20 home runs & 20 stolen bases in a single season, what are some of your other accomplishments you are proud of?

Graduating from University of Illinois-Chicago and that I am 1 of only 37 players with college degrees. Making it to the 2006 World Series.

15.) Do you have any other favorite sports besides Baseball?

I like basketball, especially college ball. I also like hockey, football and bowling, and I used to run cross-country.

a.) What’s your favorite team?
The Kansas Jayhawks.

16.) Who would you consider your closest friends on the Yankees?

Of course I have special bond with my fellow outfielders Nick Swisher and Brett Gardner. But I also like to hang out with CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Russell Martin we go out to dinner and movies together.

Photo from the Smilow family

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302 Responses to “A young perspective on Curtis Granderson”

  1. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Very cute interview. :)

  2. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Curtis is always the diplomat.. didn’t even take a stance on deep dish or thin crust!!

    (Deep dish is not real pizza, sorry Erin.)

  3. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Curtis is always the diplomat.. didn’t even take a stance on deep dish or thin crust!!

    (Deep dish is not real pizza, sorry Erin.)

    Haha.. Curtis is a pizza flip flopper!

  4. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    “I am 1 of only 37 players with college degrees.”

    What a sad statistic lol.

  5. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    Shame-I actually agree with you. I’m a thin crust girl all the way. ;)

  6. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    @nickpiecoro: GM Kevin Towers said he had an offer out to Hiroki Kuroda for “10 days to two weeks” but couldn’t get a yes. Got tired of waiting around.

  7. MTU December 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Time to walk the Mops.

    I’ll try to check back in later to see who “really” won the Darvish sweepstakes.

    ;)

  8. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Is New York pizza considered “thin crust” ? Grimaldi’s in Brooklyn, best pizza ever

  9. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    KURODA

  10. MTU December 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    “Brothers” off Rt. 18 in E. Brunswick.

    Dynamite.

    :)

  11. Chip December 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    KURODA

    ————

    shhhhh….inside voice

  12. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Patrick – Its only considered thin crust in a conversation about that convoluted nonsense they call ‘pizza’ in the Midwest.

  13. Chip December 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    Is New York pizza considered “thin crust” ? Grimaldi’s in Brooklyn, best pizza ever

    —————

    You don’t know what you’re talking about – Adrienne’s on Stone Street in lower Manhattan will ruin all other pizza for you. You won’t be able to eat a slice anywhere without saying “it’s good, but it’s not Adrienne’s”

    And I say that even though the pies are rectangular and not round.

  14. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    I will say though- the first pizza place Grandyman mentioned, Lou Malnati’s is excellent. They specialize in deep dish, but they also do a thin crust. And it’s gooood. Highly recommended if you’re ever in my neck of the woods. :)

  15. m December 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    AJ? Martin? I knew something wasn’t right about Granderson.

    Nice job by the young lady. Watch out, Chad!

  16. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Kuroda refused coming to the Yanks at the July 31 deadline. He said “No” to the Yanks then, and NOW it’s the Yanks turn to pass on him. I want nothing to do with players that have rejected the opportunity to play for the greatest franchise in the history of sports.

  17. m December 19th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Erin,

    Food wards did an episode on Malnati’s. I think their rival is owned by a sibling or relative? Anyway, it was a tense episode. I think the rivalry goes back a generation.

  18. m December 19th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Food Wars.

  19. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Kuroda likes pizza

  20. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Criticize deep dish pizza all you want. I’ll agree with everything you say.

    Just don’t criticize the Chicago style hot dog. Then we’ll have issues. :P

  21. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Chip,

    Maybe so, I’ll have to try it. That’s how I feel about Grimaldi’s though, I’ve had it once in my life and it was just amazing.

  22. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    m-I’ll have to see if I can find that episode!

  23. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Is New York pizza considered “thin crust” ? Grimaldi’s in Brooklyn, best pizza ever
    ======

    Lombardi’s in Little Italy is second best. My girlfriend’s pizza is the best.

  24. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    I really like Granderson a lot. He seems like such a good guy. I wouldn’t mind it if my kid had a poster of his up on the wall…

  25. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    ‘deep dish’ is midwestern for ‘haven’t got a clue how to make a pizza.’

  26. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    No way the best pizza in NY is down in the culinary wasteland of the Financial District.

  27. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    “And I say that even though the pies are rectangular and not round.”

    Thats actually how they’re made in Italy.. and those people know their pizza.

  28. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    ancona’s on rockaway avenue in valley stream, followed closely by geno’s in long beach.

  29. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    ‘deep dish’ is midwestern for ‘haven’t got a clue how to make a pizza.’
    ===

    :lol:

  30. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    You notice Grandy said “really hungry” in reference to a Deep Dish. THAT is also my sentiment. Tastes great, very filling, and economically wise if a family or group is involved.

  31. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Anybody recommends a “Little Caesar’s” pizza gets banned from this Blog. The box tastes better than the pie.

  32. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    “really hungry” to me means buy two real pizzas!

  33. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Is Little Caesar’s still around? I haven’t seen one of those pl;aces in a very long time.

  34. Don December 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    The girl asked some mature questions. The interview and answers were a good read.

  35. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    yes, some idiot guy ran little ceasar’s into the ground, then he ran for president. 999!

  36. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Erin – I’d eat it and like if it was made correctly but I can’t look at fork and knife dishes and go ‘yeah, that’s pizza.” More like a substantive quiche with more crust and less egg.

    And as far as hotdogs.. I’m open to anything. Just ask Chip.

  37. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    yes, some idiot guy ran little ceasar’s into the ground, then he ran for president. 999!

    NINE PIZZAS
    NINE TOPPINGS
    ONLY NINE DOLLARS EACH

    999

  38. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    Anybody recommends a ?Little Caesar?s? pizza gets banned from this Blog. The box tastes better than the pie.

    ******************

    Agreed.

  39. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    Is Little Caesar?s still around? I haven?t seen one of those pl;aces in a very long time.

    ******************

    Sadly, yes. I pass 2 of them on my way into work. That’s got to be the most tasteless pizza in the world.

  40. m December 19th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    MarcCarig RT @161stAndChilla: @MarcCarig

    Should Toronto win
    Do not forget to spell it
    With an extra Yu
    #YuHaiku

    ______________________________________________________________

    Slow day until the bid is announced. Should we hold a YuHaiku contest?

  41. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    I’ll take your word for it. I’ve never actually eaten at Little Caesar’s (or Papa Johns). and I don’t intend on trying it anytime in the future.

  42. Villa Nova-Ya December 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Sign the girl up!

    Excellent interview.

  43. m December 19th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Here’s one if we lost the bid:

    Y get so worked up?
    It’s not the end of the world
    Whatsa matter Yu?

  44. Joe from Long Island December 19th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    That was actually a pretty good interview!

    When I lived in Chicago, back in the late 70s-mid 80s, I got introduced to deep dish. While very nice in it’s own way, it’s not real pizza. Having said that, Giordano’s, in the old neighborhood, was terrific, best in Chicago. Brings back memories….

    The Yanks will be just fine without YuHoo.

  45. comet December 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Patrick the 999 guy who ran for President was CEO of Godfathers Pizza also disgusting stuff.

  46. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    This is my haiku

  47. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    K
    U
    R
    O
    D
    A

  48. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Patrick the 999 guy who ran for President was CEO of Godfathers Pizza also disgusting stuff.

    Yes I know

  49. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Chad-

    You need to have Miss. Smilow do more Yankee player interviews.

    According to the following tweet by Don Nomura, the Nippon Ham Fighters will make announce that they accepted the high bid on Yu Darvish some time late Tuesday morning:

    Fighters will announce tomorrow late morning, ???????????#??????#darvish

    They might announce the amount of the high bid, but only MLB knows the team that made that bid.

    I believe if the bid is higher than the Matsusaka bid that unless Darvish gets 15-16M/year times 5-6 years he won’t sign. He already makes 12M in salary and endorsements in Japan.

    Thoughts?

  50. Chip December 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
    No way the best pizza in NY is down in the culinary wasteland of the Financial District.

    ————-

    I was as shocked as you. But sure enough – hidden there among the douchey hedge fund guys is the best pizza I (or anyone) has ever had.

    By the way – deep dish isn’t pizza – it’s toppings and sauce served in a bread bowl – if you look at it that way (and that way only) it is tolerable. But calling it pizza is like calling David Wells and athlete.

  51. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Drat-The Japanese above didn’t come thru on the Post. It basically said the Nippon Ham Fighters, after contacting the Yankees, have accepted only their bid in exchange for certain contractural arrangements after Yu Darvish is signed by them!! :)

  52. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Trivia Time.

    Who’s in?

  53. Bo knows December 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    People were talking about ugly cars. I give you the prettiest and fun car to drive. A classic in time.

    The 1974 Alfa Romeo GTV 2000. Now it’s Italian, the drive train is solid, it’s temperamental, important pieces fall off etc, but the driving experience, that resonator – you can break it loose and drive square curves, it’s an experience.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwBXXIxYX1Y

    For the good parts you can skip to the 3.00 min mark.

  54. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    L
    G
    Y-

    K
    U
    R
    O
    D
    A

    Have you done this one yet? :)

  55. Joe from Long Island December 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Yankee Trader – that’s some prohibitive coin. You figure a fee of >50M, plus a contract range of 80-96 years, over 5-6 years, if that is to be believed. That comes to 130-146M, and 6 years, for someone who has a lot of question marks behind him.

    After Toronto got out from that Vernon Wells deal, I’d be a bit surprised if Anthopoulos did another one. But, we’ll see.

  56. BSkolo December 19th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Jersey Boy checking in here.

    Mack ‘n’ Manco’s on the OC boardwalk is the best pizza, imo.

  57. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    LGY-

    That Kuroda was supposed to be indented.

    I’m only up for trivia if given enought time to google the answer.

  58. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    What’s ADORUK spelled backwards?

  59. comet December 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Ugliest car ever the Pontiac Aztec

  60. tomingeorgia December 19th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Bo knows,
    I had one of those, and you are absolutely right. Lucas ignition a constant concern. But I also had a kind of junky Jaguar XK120, an absolutely vicious car that would put you in the bushes with the slightest provocation.

  61. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Joe-

    Some in the media have surmised that the winning team-Blue Jays- are not going to go all out and give Darvish what he wants, and will be satisfied to send him packing-back to Japan. They might have been playing poker all along, trying to block other AL teams from obtaining him. Lot of money but yes I believe he’ll demand that kind of contract.

  62. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    KURODA

  63. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I’m sitting in my Pontiac Aztec while eating Little Caesar’s pizza and thinking about what a bad guy Curtis Granderson is.

    Can I be more wrong?

  64. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Does this count as a car?

    Measuring just 134cm (52.8inches) in length and 99cm (39 inches) in width, the car was designed to fit just the driver (hopefully not too tall) and a shopping bag. Meet the Peel P50, the world’s smallest road-worthy automobile.

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/dogone.....1285698499

  65. Gary December 19th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Erin December 19th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    Criticize deep dish pizza all you want. I’ll agree with everything you say.

    Just don’t criticize the Chicago style hot dog. Then we’ll have issues.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Those dogs are salad on a bun :-) Proper way to do a dog is with mustard, onion, and hot sause.

  66. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Those dogs are salad on a bun Proper way to do a dog is with mustard, onion, and hot sause.

    My favorite is mustard, chili, cheese, raw onions

  67. Chip December 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    Those dogs are salad on a bun Proper way to do a dog is with mustard, onion, and hot sause.

    My favorite is mustard, chili, cheese, raw onions

    —————

    Please – you’re not even a New Yorker. Mustard and Kraut – that’s it.

  68. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    You want ugly US cars-check out this You Tube video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwLTbbWq0

    1960 Plymouth Valiant is right up there!!

  69. Trigeminal Neuralgia Yank December 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Most entertaining interview I read in awhile.

    Whatsamatter Yu
    Yu no likea dis place
    Whatsamatter Yu
    Shud uppa Yu face

  70. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Why have a lowly hot dog when you can have a tasty sausage?

  71. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Please – you’re not even a New Yorker. Mustard and Kraut – that’s it.

    I am so a New Yorker!

    Kraut is gross though

    You’re so mean Chip :(

  72. randy l. December 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    “I am 1 of only 37 players with college degrees.”

    based on their unusual use of stats some sabermetrically inclined members of lohud probably think that a person has 37 times the chance of being a pro baseball player if they don’t go to college .

  73. Joe from Long Island December 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Trader – yeah, I’ve wondered about that possibility – blocking other teams – myself. For the Jays, it makes a lot of sense – if Yanks or Red Sox get any stronger, and with Tampa, it would really kill any chance Toronto has in that division. Even though it would strain MLB’s relationship with the Nippon league, I could see the Jays making a business decision.

    Make a strong bid, have a relatively low ceiling for contract demands, and whatever happens, happens.

  74. Bo knows December 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Tom

    Ah, but the sound of those twin Webers. I still have mine, same as the one shown except it’s midnignt blue with metallic fleck and pearl. The bad part is that it draws crowds, I’ve had it keyed three times, bast**ds.

    The worst (ahem) sports cars were the TR6, screw up and it would flip end for end. The Jags were terrible, you had to tune them constantly but the power was breathtaking.

  75. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    sorry i was the guy who mistook the crappy presidential candidate’s crappy pizza company.

  76. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Ever had a hotdog with potatoes, bacon, cheese, hot onions, and chili? BOOM goes the dynamite!!

  77. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    randy l. December 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    “I am 1 of only 37 players with college degrees.”

    based on their unusual use of stats some sabermetrically inclined members of lohud probably think that a person has 37 times the chance of being a pro baseball player if they don’t go to college .

    ———————-

    ZING!! Good to see you back, randy.

  78. randy l. December 19th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    shame-

    i’m just getting ready for the new season.

    though i won’t really start tweaking people on a regular basis until after new years.

    you don’t want to peak to soon :)

  79. Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Richard Blais opened up HD1, hot dog restaurant in Atlanta. Some interesting dogs/sausages and bloated prices.

    http://www.savoryexposure.com/.....ard-blais/

  80. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Those dogs are salad on a bun Proper way to do a dog is with mustard, onion, and hot sause.

    **********************

    Ha ha ha….I kind of like that description. I’ll let you get away with that one. ;)

  81. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Yankee Trader December 19th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    Richard Blais opened up HD1, hot dog restaurant in Atlanta. Some interesting dogs/sausages and bloated prices.

    http://www.savoryexposure.com/…..ard-blais/

    ******************

    That is one interesting menu. ;)

  82. tomingeorgia December 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Bo,
    That’s why Jags had at least two seats; the extra one was for the riding mechanic. But you’re right about the beastliness of the power.

  83. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Randy will bounce back. But he’s still distraught over the 2011 Minnesota Twins.

  84. upstate kate December 19th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Nice article. Sounds like a fun trip.
    Other than lohud, sounds like lots of people like AJ and Russell Martin ;)

  85. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Yea, it makes sence to overbid on Yu, and not sign him in order to block other teams from adding him. The problem is, the fan base is gonna get super jazzed about adding him to the team, and then the perceive mgt. as being inept after not sealing the deal. The ensuing PR Fiasco makes this manuever not worth it.

  86. yankeefeminista December 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Just a drive by; saw the pizza reference.

    IMO, Manhattan pizza is unfortunately unable to compete with other East coast pies.

    1. Brooklyn, Totonno’s (NY Totonno’s doesn’t cut it, nor does John’s, Lombardi’s or Patsy’s; never been to DiFaro’s in Brooklyn, but from descriptions it might make my list…)
    2. New Haven, Pepe’s (Don’t like Sally’s sauce)
    3. Trenton, DeLorenzo’s
    4. Princeton, Osteria Procaccino, clam pie (siiick)

    Thin-crust all the way!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_FZVD5lsAw

  87. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    there was alot of speculation that the socks did that with dice k but the ‘nation’ wouldn’t let them walk away, don’t know if that’s true, but i do remember that everyone who discussed that idea thought that it would do heavy damage to the relationship with japan and that the commissioner and mlb would be really bent outta shape about it. im sure they could do it but i think there would be hell to pay. of course, they cant force you into offering a contract the guy will accept, so its always possible that he doesn’t sign either because they lowball him or just because he doesnt accept a reasonable offer.

  88. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    This is the new Charleston coaching staff:

    Yankees formally announce Carlos Mendoza as manager at low A Charleston; bi-lingual Venezuelan is rising star in organization

    With Mendoza at CSC are Brian Baisley (1BC) Greg Colbrunn (HC) Danny Borell (PC), Jorge Vargas (trainer) & Mike Kicia (strength).

  89. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    why doesn’t Yu just do a one-hour special on ESPN to announce where he’s going, that would be so great! what could go wrong with that its like a dream!

  90. dogface December 19th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    I think whoever submitted the winning bid is in it to get him. After that, it’s just a matter of what’s a reasonable contract. Darvish doesn’t have great leverage here at all. He can shout $15M per year at the moon all he wants. Chances are he’s not getting it because THAT’s not reasonable. If the winning team comes in at $66M – $72M over 6 years, there really isn’t any argument that they aren’t making a reasonable offer.

  91. BD (Boston Dave) December 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    “why doesn’t Yu just do a one-hour special on ESPN to announce where he’s going”

    —————

    because after the Jays or Rangers try to “lowball” him after shelling out $55M for the post, he’ll end up back in Japan.

  92. blake December 19th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Darvish might get less money next year if Hamels, Cain, etc are on the market also…..he may have the most leverage now that he will ever have

  93. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    KathyJacobsonPR http://twitpic.com/7vjkeq – @CC_Sabathia and friends at the refurbished Crest Gardens as part of the #CCChristmasCaravan in Vallejo.

  94. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    KathyJacobsonPR http://twitpic.com/7vjkzh – @AmberSabathia and @CC_Sabathia share laughs with friends from the Crest Gardens today in Vallejo.

  95. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    he’s got leverage, they didnt go after him if they didnt need him and once its announced, like someone said above, the hype and the excitement of the fanbase begins to take over and pressure builds to sign him or look foolish and put yourself in a hot water with the fans and maybe the ownership, who cleared $100M or so because that gm wanted to go after the guy. Also he makes a good buck in japan and they certainly have to bid against that, and also its been a pretty common belief all along that he is going to want $15-$20M/year, so even if he isnt going to quite get that, the jays (or whoever the winner is) had to figure the total package was going to be north of $100M and they still threw in what is reportedly a very large bid. so unless this was totally a blocking move that they know is not going to go over well with either mlb or the japanese leagues, they pretty much already know the parameters of what the deal is going to look like. and its very expensive.

  96. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    but ill be happy if they dont sign him!

  97. djsunyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    for those in jackson heights, queens – famous pizza is fantastic (they make mini pies)…

    and i’m also a big fan of the gigantic pizza slice in hoboken’s benny tudinos…

  98. spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Staten Island has the best pizza!

    Square pie from Brothers pizza

    Regular pie from Denino’s.

  99. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    just speculation? Even his speculation is speculation.

    @JonHeymanCBS
    Jon Heyman This is all still speculation, but fwiw folks whove spoken to #bluejays people say they don’t seem confident they won darvish bid.

  100. Against All Odds December 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    # GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    just speculation? Even his speculation is speculation.

    @JonHeymanCBS
    Jon Heyman This is all still speculation, but fwiw folks whove spoken to #bluejays people say they don’t seem confident they won darvish bid.

    ——————————-

    SMH this is getting ridiculous

  101. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    The Blue Jays had him
    Until they didn’t, so sad
    Hi, speculation

  102. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    MLB Baseball, Japanese leagues and Blue Jays are pumping (or pimping) this for all of the free publicity than can get out of it.

  103. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Cervelli break:

    http://yfrog.com/oeg3pgaj

  104. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    just speculation? Even his speculation is speculation.

    *************

    :D

    It’s only a matter of time before he starts tweeting about the ever mysterious “third team”

  105. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    I’ll bet the Cuban National team has outbid everyone

  106. Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Yea I can’t wait till they start talking about the “mystery team” that got the winning bid – since its all been guesswork from the start.

  107. comet December 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Erin is there any truth that you are about to get hit by a bad winter storm? What’s your weather like? Thanks!

  108. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Yea I can’t wait till they start talking about the “mystery team” that got the winning bid – since its all been guesswork from the start.

    Hopefully the “mystery team” is the Yankees :)

  109. pat December 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Marlins bid on everyone else so far. Why not Yu?

  110. yankeefeminista December 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    Staten Island has the best pizza!

    Square pie from Brothers pizza

    Regular pie from Denino’s.
    _____
    Anywhere near SI Yanks. I usually eat Sri Lankan food on Victory Blvd.

  111. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Comet- I sincerely hope not. LOL

    Earlier today it was in the mid-40s, but looking out the window it looks like the sun has gone away, so I’m sure it’s back to being miserable. I haven’t heard anything about a storm, but I will keep you posted!

  112. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    That might be the closest that Heyman has ever come to admitting the he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

  113. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Erin – I haven’t heard anything about a storm

    “Storms Never Last (Do They, Baby)” – Waylon Jennings and Jessie Coulter

  114. pat December 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    MarcCarig Yu Darvish wasn’t gonna bring any RBI singles to the Yankees anyway. Amirite, @JerseyJBradley?

    :razz:

  115. Pat M. December 19th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Is there really such a thing as a bad pie in NYC ???/

  116. spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    yankeefeminista December 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    Staten Island has the best pizza!

    Square pie from Brothers pizza

    Regular pie from Denino’s.
    _____
    Anywhere near SI Yanks. I usually eat Sri Lankan food on Victory Blvd.

    ————————————————————————————————

    Probably a 10-15 minute drive from the SI Yanks, but well worth the drive. Both Brothers and Denino’s are a minute apart from one another.

  117. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    Erin ? I haven’t heard anything about a storm

    ?Storms Never Last (Do They, Baby)? ? Waylon Jennings and Jessie Coulter

    ************************

    :lol:

  118. spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    yankeefeminista December 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    Staten Island has the best pizza!

    Square pie from Brothers pizza

    Regular pie from Denino’s.
    _____
    Anywhere near SI Yanks. I usually eat Sri Lankan food on Victory Blvd.

    ——————————————————————————————–

    What’s the name of the Sri Lankan restaurant that you eat at on Victory Blvd?

  119. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Josh Norris’ list of the Trenton top 10s of various players and games from 2011 starts today

    http://minormatterstrenton.blogspot.com/

  120. Smilow December 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    Thank you to Chad Jennings & LoHud Yankees Blog for posting my daughters interview with Curtis Granderson. Thank you to Baseball Youth Magazine and Nathan Clinkenbeard for setting up the interview and the biggest THANK YOU goes to Curtis Granderson & John Fuller and the New York Yankees organization… and MLB

  121. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Curtis is always the diplomat.. didn’t even take a stance on deep dish or thin crust!!

    (Deep dish is not real pizza, sorry Erin.)

    ———-

    Most New Yorkers believe that deep dish pizza is not really pizza but I beg to differ.

    Most of us probably like any kind of pizza but I personally don’t think there’s anything better than Chicago Deep Dish – all the places Granderson mentioned are excellent.

  122. blake December 19th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Smilow,

    Your daughter did an excellent job…..however she really should have pressed Curtis on exactly why he likes Dominoes pizza :)

  123. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    These two guys have a great faux-feud going in the Twtter Battles

    @eboland11
    Erik Boland No one beats a dead horse like @MarcCarig but even he’s finding the Yu puns old at this point

  124. yankeefeminista December 19th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
    yankeefeminista December 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    spidanyc December 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    Staten Island has the best pizza!

    Square pie from Brothers pizza

    Regular pie from Denino’s.
    _____
    Anywhere near SI Yanks. I usually eat Sri Lankan food on Victory Blvd.

    ————————————————————————————————

    Probably a 10-15 minute drive from the SI Yanks, but well worth the drive. Both Brothers and Denino’s are a minute apart from one another.
    ______
    I have heard of them, but wasn’t sure where they were located. I will definitely check them out in short season. Either one thin crust?

    The Sri Lankan place I have gone to is Dosa House, combo Sri Lankan/Southern Indian a couple of miles from the ballpark. There is a stretch of them for a block or two in that vicinity.

  125. yankeefeminista December 19th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Shame Spencer December 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Curtis is always the diplomat.. didn’t even take a stance on deep dish or thin crust!!

    (Deep dish is not real pizza, sorry Erin.)
    _____
    QFT. The reason I could never find decent pizza in RI. (Sorry, Trisha. ;) )

  126. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Smilow-your daughter did an excellent job! :)

  127. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    BryanHoch Jeter hosts 300 Kalamazoo children at Turn 2 event http://wp.me/p1rXvG-8WEV

  128. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    blake December 19th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    Smilow,

    Your daughter did an excellent job…..however she really should have pressed Curtis on exactly why he likes Dominoes pizza

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    because Granderson is still upset getting stiffed on contracts and then traded by Tiger’s owner Mike Ilitch, owner of Little Caesar’s.

  129. blake December 19th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Sounds like the tide is turning towards the Rangers here in the final hours……of course that means nothing as none of these guys know anything. FWIW. Cashman never confirmed anything about a modest bid to my knowledge..

  130. blake December 19th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    At least little Caesars costs 5 bucks to be bad though….

  131. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    FakePeteGammons If #Yankees somehow end up w/Yu Darvish I will go on MLB network and yell loudly! Only good for game on other teams! This is Peter Gammons.

  132. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    $5 is still too much money for Little Ceasars

  133. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    I know theres probably no chance the Yankees end up with Darvish but I won’t give up hope!

  134. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    eboland11 Erik Boland
    Have found answering “Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer” to question “what’s ur favorite Christmas song?” usually ends those conversations

  135. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    “$5 is still too much money for Little Ceasars”

    Lol…..depends on if you’re in college or not.

  136. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Wasn’t it Hal that said he doubted their bid would win?

    I thought it wouldn’t be the Yankees, but the last day or so I’ve started to think it could possibly be, no matter what Hal or Cashman said (Cashman is a notorious sandbagger). With the latest news being that the bid was over $51mil, and supposedly Toronto’s was in the 40-49 range, and now news of the Jays’ doubts, plus I can’t see Nolan Ryan bidding that much on a Japanese pretty boy with no MLB track record, maybe it is the Yankees…

    or maybe it’s the Cubs, or Marlins, or… :)

  137. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    So who exactly said the Yankees bid modestly? Mystery source close to the Yankees?

  138. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    “Wasn’t it Hal that said he doubted their bid would win?”

    Lost said that…..

    He also said this :

    Lost .. @LostNYY 2d #Yankees fans should be very hopeful. Just heard Hal gave Cashman carte blanche to bid on #Darvish . Still doesn’t mean it’s the winning bid

  139. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    On November 17th, 2011, the United States Congress declared a serving of pizza to be an adequate serving of vegetables. This was mainly decided after much lobbying by the frozen food industries, despite protest from potato farmers.

  140. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Oh, it was Lost? Forget that then. Please stop posting Lost tweets.

  141. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    eboland11 Erik Boland
    Have found answering ?Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer? to question ?what?s ur favorite Christmas song?? usually ends those conversations

    *****************

    Ha ha

    That’s always been my brother’s favorite Xmas song.

  142. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Blake-very true. ;)

  143. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    I honestly don’t think anyone knows who won or who bid what……doesnt mean I think the Yankees won…..but I don’t know how accurate any of the reporting on this has been.

  144. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    i’m big on denino’s too, me and the boys always stop on the way back from the annual ocean city spring golf weekend. (sometimes on the way down, too) plus im from LI but live in jersey, so i find myself crossing SI pretty regularly. great pie!

  145. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    i LOVE it! thats the best tweet i’ve read in serveral days! its fun to speculate! I’m hoping our buddy theo swooped in with a big # for the cubbies and he goes to a loser in the other league!

  146. pat December 19th, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    JimBowdenESPNxm: MLB not able to keep Braun’s drug test confidential but they’ve done a good job on Darvish bid

  147. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    AndrewMarchand RT @Kevin_Goldstein: I’ve talked to a lot of int’l folks. General consensus is that the #Yankees are BIG on Yoenis Cespedes.

  148. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    JimBowdenESPNxm: MLB not able to keep Braun’s drug test confidential but they’ve done a good job on Darvish bid

    Haha good point by Bowden, that’s actually kind of pathetic. Bad job by MLB..

  149. Against All Odds December 19th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    # Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    AndrewMarchand RT @Kevin_Goldstein: I’ve talked to a lot of int’l folks. General consensus is that the #Yankees are BIG on Yoenis Cespedes.

    ———————————–

    So this goes against reports that the Yankees are not high on Cespedes

  150. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Im not very confident that my bid for Darvish will be enough……hey everyone else is saying it.

  151. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    3 or 4 hours and we’ll find out.

  152. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Against All Odds December 19th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    # Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    AndrewMarchand RT @Kevin_Goldstein: I’ve talked to a lot of int’l folks. General consensus is that the #Yankees are BIG on Yoenis Cespedes.

    ———————————–

    So this goes against reports that the Yankees are not high on Cespedes

    I guess we can’t really beleive anyone anymore.

  153. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    wonder where jf is? haven’t seen him since word got out it was probly the bj’s.

  154. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    wonder where jf is? haven’t seen him since word got out it was probly the bj’s.

    Probably playing star wars old republic

  155. Gary December 19th, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    I thought this was just too good. Shopliffers get their car broken into while they are in stealing in the Grocery store

    Two accused shoplifters got a taste of their own medicine when they sought to clear out of the crime–and found that a passing malefactor had broken into their own car.

  156. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    The Yanks never said they didn’t like Cespedes……they just talked about the budget and blah blah blah.

  157. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Kepner might have won over the hearts of Erin and Erica. Eric boland, looks like he blew it.

    @ @TylerKepner @eboland11 My personal favorite is “Little Saint Nick” by the Beach Boys, as performed by The Muppets in 1979//thats horrifying

    TylerKepner Tyler Kepner
    @ @eboland11 Not a big fan of The Electric Mayhem?

  158. Pat M. December 19th, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Sign the Cuban outfielders !!!!!

  159. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Sign the Cuban outfielders !!!!!

    I’m down with that! I’d stick Cespedes in AAA for most of the season, bring him up in September and he can start for us in 2013. I know he’s getting a ton of hype right now but Cuban league is basically the same level of skill as A ball so it’s not unreasonable to stash him in AA or AAA for awhile.

  160. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    wonder where jf is? haven’t seen him since word got out it was probly the bj’s

    There’s nothing to talk about! Here is a summary of any discussion I will be in:

    - Darvish is good and will be worth it
    - The Yankees will regret losing the bid unless the winner bids like 60+ million
    - If the Jays get Darvish look forward to him shutting us out atleast once
    - The Yankees have some backup options if they dont get him: Kuroda or Danks
    - They shouldnt trade Montero
    - Anyone suggesting the Yankees go after Cespedes who also said they shouldnt get Darvish is a dumbie
    - The Yankees SHOULD get all the cubans but burning a 40 man spot for Cespedes will be annoying
    - Salary dump AJ, its the only way to be sure.

  161. Yank 97 December 19th, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Sign both Cuban OFers and trade them for some pitching

  162. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Erin, this will give you some giggles. Now trending are the Sesame Street Bands. Cout Basie. The Count counting 9 Inch Nails and Fozzie Osborn.

    http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23SesameStreetBands

  163. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    “I’m down with that! I’d stick Cespedes in AAA for most of the season, bring him up in September and he can start for us in 2013. I know he’s getting a ton of hype right now but Cuban league is basically the same level of skill as A ball so it’s not unreasonable to stash him in AA or AAA for awhile.”

    I like…..

  164. sammiejohnson December 19th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    wonder where jf is? haven’t seen him since word got out it was probly the bj’s

    ___________________________________

    Has anyone checked the ledge?

  165. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    GB-I just saw that! The Electric Mayhem are awesome. :)

  166. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    ***Count Basie***

  167. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Cespedes is going to cost 50 million on a major league deal and is a 26 year old A-Ball player, crazy risky.

  168. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Ask for JF and he shall appear!

  169. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Yeah, that Janis is one hot Babe. hubba, hubba

  170. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    So this goes against reports that the Yankees are not high on Cespedes

    ————————

    That was BEFORE his second short film.

  171. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    Erin, this will give you some giggles. Now trending are the Sesame Street Bands. Cout Basie. The Count counting 9 Inch Nails and Fozzie Osborn.

    http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23SesameStreetBands

    *************************

    Awesome. :D

  172. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Not sure it’s realistic to store a player costing as much as Centipedes in the minors.

  173. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    Yeah, that Janis is one hot Babe. hubba, hubba

    ******************

    :lol:

    I was always a big fan of her hat.

  174. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    “Cespedes is going to cost 50 million on a major league deal and is a 26 year old A-Ball player, crazy risk”

    It is…..but he does have some crazy ability on the surface. The Yanks have to decide if they think he can hit in the bigs or not. Its a risk though no question.

  175. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    As opposed to a $100+ mil on a ML contract for a 25-26 year old minor league pitcher?

  176. Against All Odds December 19th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    # jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Against All Odds December 19th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    # Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    AndrewMarchand RT @Kevin_Goldstein: I’ve talked to a lot of int’l folks. General consensus is that the #Yankees are BIG on Yoenis Cespedes.

    ———————————–

    So this goes against reports that the Yankees are not high on Cespedes

    I guess we can’t really beleive anyone anymore.

    ————————————

    Damn you twitter and these rumors

  177. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    As opposed to a $100+ mil on a ML contract for a 25-26 year old minor league pitcher?

    —-

    Darvish would be second best pitcher on the team, not minor league pitcher. And it would be a ~$50 million contract … troll harder

  178. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    As opposed to a $100+ mil on a ML contract for a 25-26 year old minor league pitcher?

    —————–

    Um. What? No one has even remotely suggested sending Darvish to the minors.

  179. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Cespedes is similar to Darvish in that if he comes over and is good then the contract will be a bargain…..and if he comes over and isn’t then it’ll be a big over pay.

    Darvish is probably easier to project because the league he’s played in is better…….but he’s also going to cost more money than Cespedes also.

  180. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    As opposed to a $100+ mil on a ML contract for a 25-26 year old minor league pitcher?

    Hmm lets see, one has pitched 1000 innings in the equivalent of AAAA ball and is a pitcher, which means we know what he can throw and how.

    The other is a 26 year old who has an unknown amount of plate appearances in an A-Ball league and we have zero idea if he can hit major league pitching at all. Yea lets spend 50% of the cost of Player A on Player B, the guy with 100% more risk!

    And its not 100+ mil on a Major League Contract :) Its the same amount of $$ for the ML deal. Just one has a nice sunk cost that doesn’t count against the Yankees luxury tax ledger.

  181. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    I want to see Darvish leg press 2 Japanese men before committing big bucks to him.

  182. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    One player has reels of footage because he pitches in a 1st world country, and you could even watch him on your computer if you wanted.

    The other has 2 youtube videos!

  183. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    I’ll be in DR next month. Maybe I’ll kidnap Centipedes and send Face over to Japan to get Darvish.

    Whoever beats Ahman Green in a footrace we sign.

  184. dogface December 19th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    It is…..but he does have some crazy ability on the surface. The Yanks have to decide if they think he can hit in the bigs or not. Its a risk though no question

    =============================================

    The bat is apparently the big question. Don’t want to drop big coin if I’m getting an Alexei Ramirez-like bat. Not a lot of history of Cuban hitters coming to the bigs and succeeding at a high level, is there? Tony Oliva would be one for sure. K. Morales for a short time. Anyone else?

  185. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    How do you completely fail to misunderstand the difference in difficulty between minor league levels? And then try to be some sort of minor league guru on an internet forum? It boggles the mind.

  186. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    Darvish is still a minor league pitcher. That’s where the Japanese leagues are.

    As far as Cespedes goes, they’ll either carry him as a spare outfielder until they see what he does, or, he’ll start in the minors on a ML contract. They just paid a pitcher to do that for about the same money. NYYs system needs outfielders more than pitchers.

    Don’t worry, if they don’t get Darvish, you can always keep drooling over Kuroda.

  187. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    I?ll be in DR next month

    *********************

    Did you get an invite to Camp Cano???!! ;)

  188. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    The NYY system needs outfielders, not the NYY Yankees Major League Team, which is where Cespedes will have to have an impact to be worth 50+ million. Darvish can jump right in to the rotation, what can Cespedes do?

    You wanna spend 50 million for a 4th outfielder, hilarious. And they’d have to trade/cut one of your untouchables to put him on the 40 man! THEY MIGHT AS WELL BLOW UP THE FARM SYSTEM!

    Haha :twisted:

  189. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    Cespedes is no more of a big money gamble than Darvish is.

  190. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    As far as Cespedes goes, they’ll either carry him as a spare outfielder until they see what he does, or, he’ll start in the minors on a ML contract. They just paid a pitcher to do that for about the same money. NYYs system needs outfielders more than pitchers.

    ——————

    Luckily, as long as Cespedes plays just one game in the Yankee mL system he’ll be a future star.

  191. RayVT December 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    One required the Yanks to win the blind auction bidding to begin negotiating & the other just requires $$$ to sign him. I am sure a bonus & more money could convince the Cuban OFs to sign miLB deals & not count on the 40-man or the Salary luxury cost.

  192. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    NYYs system needs outfielders more than pitchers.

    NYY’s MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM needs pitchers more than outfielders. Darvish helps in 2012 and beyond. Cespedes, probably starts contributing in a meaningful way in 2013.

  193. blake December 19th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    We have Dogface and Jerkface at the same time!!

    DF,

    Yes the bat is the question…….he looks like Justin Upton in a showcase……but you can’t evaluate the hit tool on a showcase …….that’s the big question. I like his opo power and he can fly though. A 6.4 60 is legit speed……swing is a little longish but they could address that. He looks the part…..but you just don’t know if he can hit big league secondary stuff ir not…..their is no youtuve video that can show plate discipline or depth perception on pitches

  194. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    As opposed to a $100+ mil on a ML contract for a 25-26 year old minor league pitcher?

    —————–

    Um. What? No one has even remotely suggested sending Darvish to the minors.
    ========

    Until he plays in the Majors, he’s a minor league player.

  195. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    I am sure a bonus & more money could convince the Cuban OFs to sign miLB deals & not count on the 40-man or the Salary luxury cost.

    I don’t think you’re going to be able to dish out a 50 million minor league deal. The Yankees arent going to give him a 50 mil BONUS.

  196. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    What really boggles the mind is how you two share the same brain and know exactly when to show up together and say the same thing. It’s like a daisy tag team.

  197. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Until he plays in the Majors, he’s a minor league player.

    ——————-

    Good thing the Yankees won’t make a decision on a technicality. Darvish will be a contributing member of a MAJOR LEAGUE team right away.

    People are suggesting dropping $50M on Centipedes and sending him to the minor leagues.

  198. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Cespedes is no more of a big money gamble than Darvish is.

    He is more of a gamble because there is less information and he is the same age but with experience at a lower level of competition, but I am of the opinion the Yankees should be going after all of them.

  199. dogface December 19th, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    I am sure a bonus & more money could convince the Cuban OFs to sign miLB deals & not count on the 40-man or the Salary luxury cost

    =============================

    Can’t discount the possibility that another team(s) will offer straight up MLB deals, which is quite likely what his agent will be seeking. I think the chances of getting him to agree to a minor league deal are pretty slim.

  200. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    TylerKepner Tyler Kepner
    @ @eboland11 @judybattista Nothin says Christmas like “She’d been drinkin’ too much egg nog” and “She forgot her medication.”

  201. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Did you get an invite to Camp Cano???!!

    ——————-

    It’s in the mail ;)

  202. Erin December 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Have a good night, LoHudders.

    Play nice. :)

  203. sammiejohnson December 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    As opposed to a $100+ mil on a ML contract for a 25-26 year old minor league pitcher?

    —————–

    Um. What? No one has even remotely suggested sending Darvish to the minors.

    ___________________________________

    Interestingly, before Dice-k signed with Boston, Boras actually negotiated a clause in his contract stating that he could not be sent to the minors.

    via Cot’s:

    Daisuke Matsuzaka rhp

    6 years/$52M (2007-12)
    posted by Seibu Lions 11/06, with Boston submitting high bid of $51,111,111 to Seibu to acquire negotiating rights with Matsuzaka for 30 days
    signed by Boston 12/06
    $2M signing bonus
    07:$6M, 08:$8M, 09:$8M, 10:$8M, 11:$10M, 12:$10M
    full no-trade clause:may not be traded without consent, provided player gets his first day of Major League service during a guaranteed contract of at least 6 years after player has been with a professional baseball league team other than a major or minor league team
    award bonuses: $0.5M for MVP ($0.125M for 2nd, $0.1M for 3rd, $75,000 for 4th, $50,000 for 5th), $0.5M for Cy Young ($0.4M for 2nd, $0.3M for 3rd), $0.1M All Star start ($50,000 for All Star selection), $0.15M for WS/LCS MVP, $50,000 for Gold Glove, $25,000 for Rookie of Year
    may not be sent to minor leagues
    escalators may increase contract value to total of $60M

  204. blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Cespedes will take a big league deal for sure…..that doesn’t mean you can’t start him off in the minors……however if you give him the money then you had better believe he will be in the bigs by the All star break at a minimum. Soler should be a minor league deal

  205. Pat M. December 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Jerkface’s defense team will be throwing out this 60 million dollar contract demand for Cespedes in an attempt to off set the Yanks not committing 120 million dollars for his Japanese bonus boy……If both Cuban ballplayers keep impressing clubs as their workouts peak then you may get both for 60 million which is 1/2 of what Yu Darvish will cost and they’ll play as regulars…….Don’t cheapen their talents and do much sense it makes as an organization and their current needs…..These guys have great raw talent……3 years ago the same was said about Matt Kemp when Torre threw him out to play CF……

  206. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    How many Scranton Yankee games does GB have to listen to before Cespedes is the next Willie Mays? 3?

  207. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Until he plays in the Majors, he’s a minor league player.

    ——————-

    Good thing the Yankees won’t make a decision on a technicality. Darvish will be a contributing member of a MAJOR LEAGUE team right away.

    People are suggesting dropping $50M on Centipedes and sending him to the minor leagues.
    =============

    Darvish’s background isn’t a technicality; it’s a factor that they have to consider when deciding how much they want to risk on him.

    Dropping $50 MM for Cespedes to the minors wouldn’t be a good idea; $5 MM perhaps but not $50 MM.

  208. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Cespedes is no more of a big money gamble than Darvish is.

    He is more of a gamble because there is less information and he is the same age but with experience at a lower level of competition, but I am of the opinion the Yankees should be going after all of them.
    ===========

    You’re right, but it also depends on the amount of the bet.

  209. blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    In that 2nd video Cespedes hits a line drive over the RF wall that simply not many humans on this planet can do……again that doesn’t mean he’s going to be a star in the big leagues…….but Im very intrigued by him…..not my money though.

  210. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Pat, according to some wags, they’re placing Soler at around $15-$20 Mil on a minor league deal. Like any other auction, nobody has a real clue. Cespedes agent placed the starting bid at the Chapman level. I doubt that even he isn’t stupid enough to think he’ll start in the majors, unless it’s a team like Seattle, white sox or Padres.

  211. blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    Just can’t see Cespedes getting significantly more than a left hander that throws 103 mph. They can ask for whatever they want but teams likely have the same concerns about him hitting in the bigs as we do.

  212. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    Signing Cespedes would be awesome.

    I just don’t want to hear that Darvish is some huge risk but the Yankees need to get Cespedes because they are thin in the OF at the mL level.

  213. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Pat, according to some wags, they’re placing Soler at around $15-$20 Mil on a minor league deal. Like any other auction, nobody has a real clue. Cespedes agent placed the starting bid at the Chapman level. I doubt that even he isn’t stupid enough to think he’ll start in the majors, unless it’s a team like Seattle, white sox or Padres.

    =======================

    What did Chapman get $15 MM to $ 20 MM over about 4 years sounds about right to me.

  214. blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    I think Darvish and Cespedes are fairly even risks…..Darvish is a more known commodity and is more projectable…..but will also cost more. Darvish potentially better fills a need though at this moment.

  215. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    EDIT

    What did Chapman get? $15 MM to $ 20 MM over about 4 years sounds about right to me for Cespedes.

  216. blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Chapman got 6/30 I think

  217. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Ghost, I was thinking around $30 mil, but, I never paid a lot of attention.

  218. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Wow now cespedes is matt kemp! His legend grows.

  219. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    I would much rather bet $20 MM on Cespedes than $100 MM on Darvish.

  220. blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    6/30 would be a worthwhile risk for Cespedes to me……that’s 5 million a year…..they are used to wasting that much on LOOGYs every year.

  221. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
    Signing Cespedes would be awesome.

    I just don’t want to hear that Darvish is some huge risk but the Yankees need to get Cespedes because they are thin in the OF at the mL level.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I don’t want to hear about your stupid assed fantasy numbers every day, either, but, it doesn’t stop you.

    Like ne….live with it.

  222. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    Cespedes is literally Mickey Mantle reincarnated. LITERALLY

  223. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    6/30 would be a worthwhile risk for Cespedes to me……that’s 5 million a year…..they are used to wasting that much on LOOGYs every year.
    =============

    That’s pretty much my thinking on the subject. It’s less money than the Yanks owe AJ.

  224. RayVT December 19th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    I believe Soler might be as good as Kemp, but not sure about Cespedes. IMO, with the International FA market possibly being in Flux after this year, signing Darvish, Soler & Cespedes would be a real opportunity/bargain in the long run!

  225. Ghostwriter December 19th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    RayVT December 19th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    I believe Soler might be as good as Kemp, but not sure about Cespedes. IMO, with the International FA market possibly being in Flux after this year, signing Darvish, Soler & Cespedes would be a real opportunity/bargain in the long run!
    =============

    It’s hard to call anybody a bargain at $100 million.

  226. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    Since when is Darvish Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Roy Halladay, Bob Feller reincarnated, LITERALLY?

  227. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Since when is Darvish Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Roy Halladay, Bob Feller reincarnated, LITERALLY?

    no

  228. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    No, What? Nobody compared Cespedes to Kemp or Mantle.

  229. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Nobody compared Cespedes to Kemp or Mantle.

    Soler and Cespedes are being compared to Kemp – the most talented outfielder in the major leagues. Nobody is comparing Darvish to Felix Hernandez….

  230. blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    One thing I would like to see the Yankees avoid is a situation where Swisher has a lot of leverage against them next winter……they don’t have any minor league options close and aside from Hamilton there isn’t a lot out there next winter.

    Swisher is going to want a big pay day next winter because he’s never gotten one and this will be his only chance……so Id rather not get into a situation where he’s the only option.

  231. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    I don’t want Darvish because he might block DJ Mitchell.

  232. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    I don’t want Darvish because he might block DJ Mitchell.

    I’m worried about Phelps actually

  233. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    One person mentioned Soler as a comparison, AFTER your clever remark.

  234. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    The Yankees are not deep with minor league outfielders, but it’s not hard to find decent corner outfielders if/when the need arises.

  235. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    “One person mentioned Soler as a comparison, AFTER your clever remark.”

    Oh really?

    “These guys have great raw talent……3 years ago the same was said about Matt Kemp when Torre threw him out to play CF……”

  236. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Pat m compared cespedes to kemp, l2r. He looked good in a video designed to make him look good, it remains to be seen how his raw talent matches up with the shouldabeenmvp of the nl.

  237. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    blake December 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
    One thing I would like to see the Yankees avoid is a situation where Swisher has a lot of leverage against them next winter……they don’t have any minor league options close and aside from Hamilton there isn’t a lot out there next winter.

    Swisher is going to want a big pay day next winter because he’s never gotten one and this will be his only chance……so Id rather not get into a situation where he’s the only option.

    That’s another good reason to sign Beltran for 2 years and keep Gardner. Then in 2014 they have the option of moving Beltran back to RF and playing Gardner in LF, if necessary.

  238. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    I find it interesting that pat m is so fervantly defending the cubanos and telling people not to cheapen their talent despite knowing very little about them yet was so down on darvish and constantly tried to cheapen his talent despite knowing very little about him.

  239. Villa Nova-Ya December 19th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    What if Swisher has a good season? Like he’s had since he’s been here?

  240. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Then make your idiot remarks to him, not me. Then, too, I’d trust his judgement more than you and the rest of the Illegimate sons Of The Bill James/Tom Tango marriage.

  241. Villa Nova-Ya December 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    And let’s just ignore the fact that Beltran spends a good part of each season on the DL.

  242. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    All videos and workouts are made to so the players look good. I don’t care who, if any get signed, but MY has pitching, but are short on outfielders. Whomever they sign, if any, for that money, they need to be right.

  243. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Then make your idiot remarks to him, not me. Then, too, I’d trust his judgement more than you and the rest of the Illegimate sons Of The Bill James/Tom Tango marriage.

    Haha what

    We made comments addressed to nobody in particular. You picked them up and ran with it. Jeez talk about ego, not everything is about you GB7!

  244. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Beltran is now looking at 3 years and up to $13 mil a year. go with the Cards

  245. Jerkface December 19th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Beltran at 39 mil is more likely to produce than cespedes for 50

  246. Patrick December 19th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Beltran is now looking at 3 years and up to $13 mil a year. go with the Cards

    Talk about overpayment.. Beltran is good but he’s so injury prone..

  247. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Beltran is now looking at 3 years and up to $13 mil a year. go with the Cards

    ——–

    Which is one of several reasons why Swisher will remain the starting right fielder in 2012.

  248. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    NO to Beltran whether it’s a 2 or 3yr deal deal. He’s a china dol now,l and needs to DH to stay healthy. Montero nixes that option. Again, the Yanks should work on KC regarding Alex Gordon. Gordon goes to arbittration this offseason and KC is gonna be stinging from the $$$ he gets. KC has Always loved Gardner if the Yanks gotta go that direction.

  249. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    I don’t think I’d go 3 on Beltran. Probably the Yankees wouldn’t either.

  250. Red Robin December 19th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    You have my permission to put up that new post , Chad .

  251. Howe Farr December 19th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    So KC is willing to Trade Alex Gordon cause he is about to hit arbitration for Brett Gardner who is about to hit arbitration?

  252. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    i like beltran, but he doesnt fit the yankees unless they are trading montero for pitching. he won’t hold up in the OF every day and the yankees dont have enough dh ab’s for him.

  253. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    “Which is one of several reasons why Swisher will remain the starting right fielder in 2012.”

    My guess is that if Swisher has another Swisher like year in 2012 then it’ll take something like 4/50 to sign him……maybe more and Id want no part of that.

  254. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    - FARR -
    You think Gardner is gonna get the $$$ Gordon is gonna get??? Besides, who said anything about straight up???

  255. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    i disagree on gordon, i think the royals will be ok paying him this year then they will think about moving him next year. even if he rakes at arb this year as a super 2, he’s still worth it and he can still bring them a haul next offseason if they need to move him before he becomes a fa.

  256. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    I don’t care where beltran plays, but it’s not likely to be NY or Boston. toronto’s and Tampa’s turf knocks them out.

  257. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    “Which is one of several reasons why Swisher will remain the starting right fielder in 2012.”

    My guess is that if Swisher has another Swisher like year in 2012 then it’ll take something like 4/50 to sign him……maybe more and Id want no part of that.

    —–

    I’m not sure what he’ll get a year from now but I wouldn’t be shocked if he produces something closer to his 2010 numbers than his 2011 numbers given that 2012 is his walk year.

  258. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 50m Wherever Beltran lands, his salary figures to be in Berkman/A. Ramirez/D. Ortiz range – $12M to $12.5M per on two- or three-year deal. #MLB

    This is all I see on Beltran…..don’t see anything about a 3 year offer from the Cards? Id give him 2/25 if he’d sign for that and I thought I coukd move Swisher for something of value. That makes the 2012 team better and gives you a little more time to find a long term option……

  259. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    David “WalMart” Glass issa bottom liner. Gardner+ = Gordon.

  260. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    “I’m not sure what he’ll get a year from now but I wouldn’t be shocked if he produces something closer to his 2010 numbers than his 2011 numbers given that 2012 is his walk year.”

    Or what if he presses all year because its his walk year like he does in the postseason and is terrible? Not saying that’ll happen……but it could.

    I usually don’t buy into the postseason clutch stuff ….but with Swisher its obvious that he changes his approach …..or he has to this point.

  261. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Where are all you guys that want the Yanks to get “younger”. Beltran doesn’t fit that mantra.

  262. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    swishy had the same OPS as arod last year.

  263. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    If Swisher repeats the last 3 years, NY will be fine with that and if he overvalues himself he’ll be out of NY and he’ll be a Type a FA.

  264. champ809 December 19th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Beltran played 150 games all in the OF last year. He’s past the surgery and is an upgrade over Swisher.

    Having acknowledged that fact I’d much rather the Yanks buy the upside of Cespedes & Soler with an eye on moving Swisher at the deadline or prior to it and promoting Cespedes from AAA if he’s mashing down there like I think he will.

    The Yanks evaluaters came away from his workouts of the opinion that he’s a legit major league ready starting CF with the potential to be an impact player if the hit tool is legit. They rate him as having 70+ power and 70+ speed with Bo Jackson like strength and athleticism. Buy that and put him in RF, yesterday not tomorrow!

    As far as Soler I’ve read comparisons to Bubba Starling as far as build skillset and again that is a must sign for the Yanks as we will never- or at least until draft pick trading comes into the game- be able to acquire those type talents in the draft based on our yearly success and may soon not be able to ” buy ” them in the international FA mkt if an int’l draft is instituted like many small market owners want.

    Get ‘er done Ca$h!!!!!!

  265. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    If Swisher repeats the last 3 years, NY will be fine with that and if he overvalues himself he’ll be out of NY and he’ll be a Type a FA.”

    And replaced by whom? I think that’s what they need to guard against……he’s not accepting a discount. Him changing agents signifies that he wants to get paid next winter to me.

  266. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    so much will depend on the PS this year (im assuming they make it). no matter how many RS games they win, if they dont make it to the WS this year, the natives will be very restless and yelling for scalps and they will have to make some big moves. espeically if they don’t end up bringing in another name this offseason.

  267. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Unless the Yanks can get either of these guys for a bargain basement bid, they aint gonna spend the jack.
    Moving Swish at the trade deadline is tough to do as it jolts the team chemistry going down the stretch. I don’t see that scenario playing out unless the Yanks are outta the running.

  268. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    champ809 December 19th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Beltran played 150 games all in the OF last year. He’s past the surgery and is an upgrade over Swisher.

    ——-

    Beltran is the better player when he’s healthy but he’s also a bigger gamble in terms of cost, age, and durability – which is why Cashman isn’t going to make such a move.

  269. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    The Beltran is hurt all the time stuff really isn’t factual…..he’s had one significant injury in his career and was super durable before the microfracture surgery. If he’s past that…..and playing 140 games last year suggests he may be…..then the injury risk is much less.

  270. champ809 December 19th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    I happen to think that Cano and Cespedes could be very good influences on each other and Yoennis will fit right in with the ARod/Robbie/Nunez click as far as being workout demons.

    Would really help his transition potentially, imo.

  271. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
    If Swisher repeats the last 3 years, NY will be fine with that and if he overvalues himself he’ll be out of NY and he’ll be a Type a FA.”

    And replaced by whom? I think that’s what they need to guard against……he’s not accepting a discount. Him changing agents signifies that he wants to get paid next winter to me.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    NY has more than a year to find a replacement for Swisher if they need one. I’ll worry about that when necessary.

  272. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    I’ll worry about replacing Swisher a year from now. Just like I’ll worry about replacing Mo when he actually retires.

  273. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    everybody is mentioning Beltran and his surgery, but what you fali to mention is his Age and the physical ringer this guy has been run through. He would be the Ideal 4th OF’er\DH which brings us to Montero.

  274. champ809 December 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    and on that note I think the Yanks have made that much more of an emphasis than in the past.

    How would this player potentially fit in the clubhouse and in the Yankee family?

    From all reports Yoennis seems like he may have some Yankee fiber in him.

  275. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Why are we looking to sign Cespedes and Soler now if we will worry about a replacement for Swisher if they need one????

  276. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Worrying about problems when they are problems can lead to either over paying..or being stuck without though.

  277. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    The Yankees have no OF depth! Need to sign Cespedes and Soler! I’ll worry about a replacement for Swisher when necessary.

    Does.not.compute.

  278. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    DONNY is right, beltran is a very very good guy for a DH/4th OF, but the yankees aren’t currently in the market for that. there are no DH ab’s available this coming year.

  279. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Who knows? That new OF’er could end up being Jeet.

  280. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Beltran would be the 2nd or 3rd best hitter on the team vs RHP……not a 4th outfielder.

  281. Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    I’ll worry about replacing Swisher a year from now. Just like I’ll worry about replacing Mo when he actually retires.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Isn’t there a glut of guys out there that swing from their heals and can’t hit good pitching?

  282. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Worrying about problems when they are problems can lead to either over paying..or being stuck without though.

    ———-

    But the Yanks seem to overpay for their guys anyways – whether it’s via FA or GMs wanting to fleece them in a trade.

    I’d rather be fleeced via FA if given the choice. I think Cashman would as well since it’s not his money but the young guns on the farm are his babies.

  283. Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    heels

  284. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    “Who knows? That new OF’er could end up being Jeet.”

    Who plays SS? Nunez just committed 3 errors playing xbox thinking about it…..

  285. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    I’ll worry about replacing Swisher a year from now. Just like I’ll worry about replacing Mo when he actually retires.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Isn’t there a glut of guys out there that swing from their heals and can’t hit good pitching?

    ———-

    A lot of players have issues hitting good pitching. That’s why it’s called good pitching.

  286. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    i’ve been a really big fan of beltran but i really dont think he can be trusted to hold up playing the OF every day. if they dont have an open dh spot he can share with arod and others, i don’t think they’d pay beltran what he’s gonna get just to be a PT player. jmo

  287. Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    I’ll worry about replacing Swisher a year from now. Just like I’ll worry about replacing Mo when he actually retires.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Isn’t there a glut of guys out there that swing from their heals and can’t hit good pitching?

    ———-

    A lot of players have issues hitting good pitching. That’s why it’s called good pitching.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    No disagreement he is definitely one of them.

  288. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    “But the Yanks seem to overpay for their guys anyways – whether it’s via FA or GMs wanting to fleece them in a trade.”

    That’s not really a good thing though and is one reason their payroll is so high……I don’t mind it for Jeter or Mo or CC as much…….but I don’t want to get in a situation with Swisher where he has all the leverage and the Yanks are forced to give him a big contract because there are no other quality options.

  289. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    The Yankees have no OF depth! Need to sign Cespedes and Soler! I’ll worry about a replacement for Swisher when necessary.

    Does.not.compute.

    ———-

    Not sure who you are addressing, but I haven’t jumped on the Cuban bandwagon.

  290. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    I’ll worry about replacing Swisher a year from now. Just like I’ll worry about replacing Mo when he actually retires.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Isn’t there a glut of guys out there that swing from their heals and can’t hit good pitching?

    ———-

    A lot of players have issues hitting good pitching. That’s why it’s called good pitching.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    No disagreement he is definitely one of them.

    ——–

    Swisher does hit Cliff Lee. I don’t really pay that close attention to what his numbers are against specific pitchers.

  291. Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    people are gonna call me a blasphemer (what else is new?) but mo’s time is near. eckersley is the only guy who kept it together as a closer as long as mo has, and he fell apart near the end when he was 42 and only got one more save before he was out. mo is 42 this year. I’ve been in ‘whatever we get now is gravy’ mode with him for about 3 years now, its amazing, but when it goes its likely to go fast . and the yankees will never be the same.

  292. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    “But the Yanks seem to overpay for their guys anyways – whether it’s via FA or GMs wanting to fleece them in a trade.”

    That’s not really a good thing though and is one reason their payroll is so high……I don’t mind it for Jeter or Mo or CC as much…….but I don’t want to get in a situation with Swisher where he has all the leverage and the Yanks are forced to give him a big contract because there are no other quality options.

    ——

    It’s not a great thing for the Yanks but that’s the price (figuratively speaking) they’ve had to pay for their success and revenue.

    Other teams and FAs know they have more resources than anyone else.

  293. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    I stopped comparing Mo to mere mortals a long time ago.

    In every way possible, he’s in a category of his own.

  294. Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    I’ll worry about replacing Swisher a year from now. Just like I’ll worry about replacing Mo when he actually retires.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Isn’t there a glut of guys out there that swing from their heals and can’t hit good pitching?

    ———-

    A lot of players have issues hitting good pitching. That’s why it’s called good pitching.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    No disagreement he is definitely one of them.

    ——–

    Swisher does hit Cliff Lee. I don’t really pay that close attention to what his numbers are against specific pitchers.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Not much help though since he pitches in the other league. He’s an easy strikeout for a control pitcher with good velocity.

  295. LGY December 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Is there any evidence to suggest Swisher doesn’t hit good pitching?

  296. jacksquat December 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    I suspect this might be Mo’s last year. He could probably pitch another year or two, but I think he won’t.

  297. Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Ys Guy December 19th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    people are gonna call me a blasphemer (what else is new?) but mo’s time is near. eckersley is the only guy who kept it together as a closer as long as mo has, and he fell apart near the end when he was 42 and only got one more save before he was out. mo is 42 this year. I’ve been in ‘whatever we get now is gravy’ mode with him for about 3 years now, its amazing, but when it goes its likely to go fast . and the yankees will never be the same.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Mo I think will make it his time long before his pitching skills become an issue. The fire can go out quickly if you tire of the travel, long nights and the daily grind. Think of sitting out there every night there is a game and maybe coming in to throw a handful of pitches. It’s got to be boring afterwhile.

  298. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Gary December 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    I’ll worry about replacing Swisher a year from now. Just like I’ll worry about replacing Mo when he actually retires.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Isn’t there a glut of guys out there that swing from their heals and can’t hit good pitching?

    ———-

    A lot of players have issues hitting good pitching. That’s why it’s called good pitching.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    No disagreement he is definitely one of them.

    ——–

    Swisher does hit Cliff Lee. I don’t really pay that close attention to what his numbers are against specific pitchers.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Not much help though since he pitches in the other league. He’s an easy strikeout for a control pitcher with good velocity.

    ————

    I think the “Swisher can’t hit good pitching” theory is way overblown.

    The guy did hit roughly .290 in 2010 (granted it was a career year) so I’m sure all of his hits weren’t against everyone’s #4 and #5 starters.

  299. Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Is there any evidence to suggest Swisher doesn’t hit good pitching?

    ——–

    Yeah, I’m kinda wondering where that comes from. People here throw that out there like it’s fact.

    Having a rough postseason or two doesn’t prove anything. A-Rod had the same problem for a few years.

  300. DONNYBROOK December 19th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    - Blake-
    Your forgetting about Nakawhatshisname as a possible SS.

  301. blake December 19th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    I think Swisher has the ability to hit good pitching……especially right handed…..he just changes his approach in big games and goes away from what makes him successful. He’s an emotionally guy and on the surface it seems he has trouble relaxing and letting the game come to him when the pressure is on…..It just takes one series sometimes to.turn that around though

  302. GreenBeret7 December 19th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Giuseppe Franco December 19th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
    LGY December 19th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    The Yankees have no OF depth! Need to sign Cespedes and Soler! I’ll worry about a replacement for Swisher when necessary.

    Does.not.compute.

    ———-

    Not sure who you are addressing, but I haven’t jumped on the Cuban bandwagon.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    As usual, he’s talking out of his ass again. I had said that the Yanks are thin in the upper levels in the outfield, Swisher, if they need him, they’ll resign him, because Cespedes isn’t stepping into a full-time spot in ST with any team that has a chance to compete for a playoff spot. he has once again decided to play punk.

    If he’s ready by September, they can rethink Swisher’s case.

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