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Sabathia on the sidelines, plus some notes and links

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 20, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees ace was watching his favorite football team this weekend, and outfield bench candidate Chris Dickerson was there with him. A picture of the Big Man seems as good a way as any to lead into a few notes and links from today.

• Andrew Marchand hears that the Yankees bid less than $20 million on Yu Darvish. Obviously that’s not even in the ballpark. The Blue Jays were seen a favorite in the bidding, and missing out on Darvish has fueled plenty of speculation that Toronto might still look to spend big one someone this winter.

• Jon Heyman hears that executives expect Gio Gonzalez to be moved now that Yu Darvish is off the board, and the free agent market is without a truly elite starting pitcher.

• Casey Blake has signed a one-year, $2 million deal with the Rockies. Does that set the market for the Yankees to sign a backup corner infielder?

• Former Yankees minor leaguer Eric Hacker has signed with the Giants. 

• Good friend Bryan Hoch answered some questions in a mailbag over at Yankees.com this afternoon. Go check that out.

• Speaking of answering questions, I’m going to host a chat here on the blog at noon on Thursday. I’ll post another reminder at some point tomorrow. Stop by if you can.

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163 Responses to “Sabathia on the sidelines, plus some notes and links”

  1. pkyankfan69 December 20th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Why even bid if your gonna bid less than 20 Mill???

  2. Red Robin December 20th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    ” Eric Hacker ”

    Wasn’t he an “untouchable” once ?

    L . o . l .

  3. Red Robin December 20th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Honestly, I think we bid less than $ 20 million as a way to humiliate him .

  4. Pat M. December 20th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    I guess the Yanks put up their portion of the posting fee, the problem eas that Jerkface failed to pony up the remaining 30 plus million……In the end Face just couldn’t justify writing that check……

  5. ET December 20th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    “Is there a single person out there who believes the price tag on starters will be any cheaper at the trade deadline?”

    Nope. As it stands now, most teams are delusional about their postseason chances every trade deadline and don’t sell, and some even buy. Now with the extra WC, teams are going to be even more stingy. Teams are going to have to be like 15 games out to trade guys.

    Not to mention, if there are valuable guys available, the competition will be much higher because of the greater number of teams that will be in the “hunt”.

  6. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Pat M. December 20th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    I guess the Yanks put up their portion of the posting fee, the problem eas that Jerkface failed to pony up the remaining 30 plus million……In the end Face just couldn’t justify writing that check……
    =

    :lol: You shouldn’t be starting stuff ;)

  7. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    In the end Face just couldn’t justify writing that check……

    Because you can’t read. I justified the expense plenty. Tell me more about how Phil Hughes is going to win 200 games.

  8. Pat M. December 20th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Yo Face…..I’ll make the same offer to you as I did to LGY…….I bet that Phil Hughes wins 20 games before Yu Darvish does……Want to cover that action champ ????

  9. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    I don’t bet against the Yankees.

  10. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    You are free to give me 100 bucks because of Napoli and wells seasons last year though as a show of good will.

  11. DocTodd December 20th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Does anyone remember what the posting fee was for Igawa????

  12. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    I don’t bet against the Yankees.
    ==

    Good answer!

  13. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Does anyone remember what the posting fee was for Igawa????

    ~26 million. Yankees suck.

  14. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    DocTodd December 20th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Does anyone remember what the posting fee was for Igawa????
    =

    I think that it was #26 million.

  15. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    The Yankees knew they had and all time Scranton wins leader on their hands with Igawa

  16. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Phil,

    if you’re around this thread….what you make of the Cubans?

  17. Pat M. December 20th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Face…..I still think Hughes will win 200 games as will Ian Kennedy

  18. DONNYBROOK December 20th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    I look at what the Rocks got for Ubaldo at the deadline and say NO. When you consider 2 Wild Cards and more teams being in contention, I saw NO, NO.
    If the Yanks wanta deal Swish, they better do it before they break camp. Dealing him during a pennant race will rock the team chemistry.
    Montero is Not gonna get consistent reps behind the plate in 2012. Well, if you consider 1 game a week consistent reps then yea. Either way, averaging 1 game a week is Not gonna polish his game back there, and it certainly needs plenty of “Old English”.

  19. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Pat M. December 20th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Face…..I still think Hughes will win 200 games as will Ian Kennedy
    ========

    That’s a pretty bold prediction. We’ll hold you to it in about 1 years or so.

  20. DocTodd December 20th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Thanks to all for the info…26 million posting for Igawa, and less than 20 for Darvish….wow!

  21. austinmac December 20th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Ghost,

    That’s a heck of a year.:)

  22. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    DONNYBROOK December 20th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    I look at what the Rocks got for Ubaldo at the deadline and say NO. When you consider 2 Wild Cards and more teams being in contention, I saw NO, NO.
    If the Yanks wanta deal Swish, they better do it before they break camp. Dealing him during a pennant race will rock the team chemistry.
    Montero is Not gonna get consistent reps behind the plate in 2012. Well, if you consider 1 game a week consistent reps then yea. Either way, averaging 1 game a week is Not gonna polish his game back there, and it certainly needs plenty of “Old English”.
    ===

    I really don’t see why Montero can’t get 60 to 80 games behind the plate. Have him catch
    Sabathia and Garcia. Leave Burnett, Hughes, and Nova to Martin…

  23. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    austinmac December 20th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Ghost,

    That’s a heck of a year.:)
    ==

    Crap–I can’t type! I meant 15 years :oops:

  24. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    I still think Hughes will win 200 games as will Ian Kennedy

    Its going to be very difficult for Hughes to do that with 1 pitch. This is the year he needs to develop a power curve or split and stick with it.

  25. DocTodd December 20th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I wonder if Igawa is going to pitch in Japan this season…it would be funny to see his team post him again……..I could see a posting fee war where the high bid could approach $75!

  26. PhiltheThrill December 20th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    blake, am I the Phil you are asking?

  27. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    DocTodd December 20th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Thanks to all for the info…26 million posting for Igawa, and less than 20 for Darvish….wow!
    =========

    I don’t think that the difference reflects the Yanks evaluation of Darvish relaitive to Igawa. The difference likely respects the Yanks’ significantly improved situation in the farm system, and a reduced desire to spend so much money up front on a prospect.

  28. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    “blake, am I the Phil you are asking?”

    yea

  29. LGY December 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Hughes is only 164 wins away from 200. Right on pace.

  30. DONNYBROOK December 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Martin is too good back there to sit him that much. Can you imagine sitting Munson that much? And you also gotta get that 3rd Catcher, (Cervelli?), some time back there. Montero having squatters rights to the DH Slot presents all kinds of problems. And that’s EXACTLY why Cashman waved goodbye to “09″ World Series MVP Matsui.

  31. Against All Odds December 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    # pkyankfan69 December 20th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Why even bid if your gonna bid less than 20 Mill???

    ———————————–

    Just in case I guess :(

  32. jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    Does anyone remember what the posting fee was for Igawa????

    ~26 million. Yankees suck.

    From now on we should call him Brian Nocashman.

  33. Ys Guy December 20th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    definitely a ‘just in case’ bid. i heard only 6 teams bid, so they threw out a #in case nobody really jumped. good play imo.

  34. LGY December 20th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Heard Phil is ditching the curve for a shuuto.

    If only we had Darvish around to teach him how :(

  35. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    DONNYBROOK December 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Martin is too good back there to sit him that much. Can you imagine sitting Munson that much?

    =

    I can imagine sitting Girardi that much, which is how the Yanks broke in Posada. In addition to getting Montero work, it would keep Martin fresh. They could probably give Martin some ABs as the DH to keep him interested.

  36. jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    DONNYBROOK December 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
    Martin is too good back there to sit him that much. Can you imagine sitting Munson that much? And you also gotta get that 3rd Catcher, (Cervelli?), some time back there. Montero having squatters rights to the DH Slot presents all kinds of problems. And that’s EXACTLY why Cashman waved goodbye to “09? World Series MVP Matsui.

    Stop with this nonsense. Montero will catch 40+ games and when he catches, other players like A-Rod, Cano, etc. can DH to get their half/rest days. It works perfectly.

  37. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    Does anyone remember what the posting fee was for Igawa????

    ~26 million. Yankees suck.

    From now on we should call him Brian Nocashman.
    ===

    How about Brian Wontwastehiscashman?

  38. ET December 20th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    ….I bet that Phil Hughes wins 20 games before Yu Darvish does

    ————-

    Would be nice if he actually stayed healthy for a full year first and had more than 1 pitch.

  39. Ys Guy December 20th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    From now on we should call him Brian Nocashman.

    =================================

    …or we could call him brian noblowingccmoneyonaguywhosneverpitchedinthebigs cashman!

  40. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    If the Yankees really did bid less than 20 million then I do find that a little surprising…..I would have thought it would have been in the 30s anyway.

  41. yanks 27 December 20th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Montero could be our 2nd best hitter… who cares if he can catch… him in AAA is a waste

  42. DONNYBROOK December 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Girardi was about done, as Posada was emerging. Martin has a long way to go. No comparison. Also, what about that 3rd Catcher the Yanks are gonna have to carry due to Montero being the DH? He’s also gotta put in some time back there to stay sharp.

  43. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Reds and Cubs talking a Wood, Marshall swap.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  44. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Ys Guy December 20th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    From now on we should call him Brian Nocashman.

    =================================

    …or we could call him brian noblowingccmoneyonaguywhosneverpitchedinthebigs cashman!
    ========

    Well played, sir

  45. Yogi Mantle December 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    It could be that the Yankees might be thinking that one or two young arms will be able to contribute by the trade deadline. I think bringing up young talent has more excitement added than having an unknown, though promising talent bought with big bucks, such as Darvish.

    I keep reading about Beltran being a player who had been healthy for all the years he played but those two years. We could say the same for Rodriguez. His hip is a concern, which might have played a role with his knee last season, but his hip wasn’t an issue this last season. Microsurgery is not always successful. We have seen Sizemore continue to have problems, he had the same surgery as Beltran.

    Adding Montero’s bat might be enough of an offensive upgrade, as well as a young talent that can excite the fans. A healthier Rodriguez will also give a boost. Then getting a young arm up to help either in the rotation or pen might be a better option than trading them away.

    It is fun to get new players on the team that have shown they can play. It is also costly, and having young farm talent come up that is cost controlled might be as good an option. It might not be as “sexy”, but I know I can enjoy watching young talent develop and grow.

    The steroid issue has many clubs afraid of older players, and well they should be. Getting younger and more athletic, as the Rays have helped to show, can pay off well. With the combination of the veteran talent and young talent the Yankees have that are reaching a point where they can contribute could be the best means of building the team while getting the payroll to a less punitive level.

    I have no problem with the Yankees bid for Darvish. They set a level where they felt the posting plus contract cost combined made sense for them. The Rangers and the Jays were more willing to take a high risk for a possibility. The Yankees have gone down that road before enough times to know you can be burnt by this.

    Only time will tell if it was a mistake by the Rangers or if it will pan out well for them. It is also possible, though unlikely that Darvish won’t sign for what the Rangers have left to offer him.

    The posting system is broken. The RS broke it with Dice K, they got burned by it. The Rangers bid cemented it as a broken system. If Darvish doesn’t pan out it hurt the Japanese posting system for pitching. I’m fine with the Rangers taking that larger risk for little potential gain.

    The Yankees are working smarter on building their club. This is not a bad thing. Even if it doesn’t create the instant excitement.

  46. disco stu December 20th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    So the Yankees bid about 20 million for Darvish with the mindset that they have nothing better to do with themselves during the off season then to insult the intelligence of every Yankee fan who knew full well that the winning bid would be at least double that.

    I wonder, if by some twist of fate they had actually won the posting with that low amount, would they have have signed him to a contract with all this talk going on now that they need to reduce payroll by 2014?

    I would love to have seen Cashman explain to the Yankee fan base after they were all excited about getting Darvish that they could not come to a contract agreement and he is now going back to Japan.

    Like I said previously, I really dont know what the Yankees are doing … they look like fools in my eyes right now.

  47. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    DONNYBROOK December 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Girardi was about done, as Posada was emerging. Martin has a long way to go. No comparison. Also, what about that 3rd Catcher the Yanks are gonna have to carry due to Montero being the DH? He’s also gotta put in some time back there to stay sharp.
    =====

    If it was up to me, I wouldn’t carry a third catcher. However, I would guess that it will be Cervellii.

  48. jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    < $20 mil bid = Nocashman

  49. Yankee Trader December 20th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Travis Wood for Sean Marshall mentioned as being discussed in MLBTRs. Yankees could use Marshall and make him a starter again

  50. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Yogi,

    nice post…..however Sizemore never has really come back from his surgery….whereas Beltran has successfully last year. This of course doesn’t mean he still doesn’t carry some risk….

  51. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    < $20 mil bid = Nocashman
    ===

    Humbug

  52. jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Posada/Martin/Cervelli = Montero/Martin/Cervelli. There is no increase in roster space needed over last year.

  53. Against All Odds December 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    # ET December 20th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    ….I bet that Phil Hughes wins 20 games before Yu Darvish does

    ————-

    Would be nice if he actually stayed healthy for a full year first and had more than 1 pitch.

    ———–

    To be fair he was healthy for all of 2010

  54. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    The Reds are going for it now that Pujols and Fielder are leaving…..might as well give it a go before Votto walks in a couple of years.

  55. LGY December 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    To be fair he was healthy for all of 2010

    ——–

    Eh. He had a case of suckitis in the second half. Flared up pretty bad in the ALCS.

  56. Against All Odds December 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Like I said previously, I really dont know what the Yankees are doing

    ———————–

    Hold the fort down until something pops up on the market. But the prices are high and teams willing to pay them will get those players.

  57. yanks 27 December 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    JeffPassan
    Texas’ bid on Yu Darvish is the biggest sign of what new CBA is wreaking. Teams big in the int’l market diverting $ to major league talent.

    JeffPassan
    If the Rangers can’t spend $17.6M on int’l players as they did in ’11, they’ll drop it somewhere. And so grows the big/small-market chasm.

  58. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    The posting system is broken. The RS broke it with Dice K, they got burned by it. The Rangers bid cemented it as a broken system. If Darvish doesn’t pan out it hurt the Japanese posting system for pitching. I’m fine with the Rangers taking that larger risk for little potential gain.

    =======

    There’s nothing wrong with the posting system. It’s a classic sealed bid, first price auction that have been widely used for years. Teams have differing valuations for players, and differing preferences for risk, and time value of money. If the Yanks had been in a bind, with a sufficiently urgent need to win the bidding, then their bid would have reflected it.

  59. Yankee Trader December 20th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    The Reds and Cubs are discussing a trade that would involve starter Travis Wood going to Chicago in exchange for reliever Sean Marshall, Major League sources tell Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com. It’s not known whether other players would be included in the potential swap, according to the report.

    What would it take for Yankees to match up for lefty Marshall?

  60. Ys Guy December 20th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    i agree with donny i wouldnt carry a 3rd catcher either. the one (maybe 2) times during the season that you have to replace the catcher you can just use the SP for one at bat then use pinch hitters. an extra guy is only a short ride from scranton away, np. i expect them to start the season with a 3rd catcher, but i think when the need an extra arm they will get rid of him and probly not go back to carrying 3. jmo

  61. yanks 27 December 20th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    “To be fair he was healthy for all of 2010″

    Didn’t he have a dead arm in the 2nd half? He dropped off significantly after his first handful of starts. Not an injury issue, perhaps it is more about stamina. Either way, he has a lot to prove… entering his 25-26 age season with only 2 more years of control.

  62. Against All Odds December 20th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    LGY December 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    To be fair he was healthy for all of 2010

    ——–

    Eh. He had a case of suckitis in the second half. Flared up pretty bad in the ALCS
    ——————

    Can’ t argue that he did struggle after the first month and a half of the season and we all know what the Rangers did. SMH can’t stand that team.

  63. Against All Odds December 20th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    # yanks 27 December 20th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    “To be fair he was healthy for all of 2010?

    Didn’t he have a dead arm in the 2nd half? He dropped off significantly after his first handful of starts. Not an injury issue, perhaps it is more about stamina. Either way, he has a lot to prove… entering his 25-26 age season with only 2 more years of control.

    —————————————-

    True he does have a lot to prove especially when it comes to staying healthy. He has to come through this yr or he might end up in the pen or on another team.

  64. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    There’s nothing wrong with the posting system

    Lol. Theres a lot wrong with the posting system. Money doesnt go to the players. No open bidding. Players are under too much control in Japan. Hurts the contracts available to those japanese players who get posted. Its kind of shameful for a japanese player to refuse to sign.

  65. PhiltheThrill December 20th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    blake,

    I think they both may have Yankee Bats, and if they do, the Yanks should sign both of them. They could use a little more talent at their upper levels to cover till the players from the last few drafts and IFA periods move up.

  66. Bret The Hitman December 20th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Whether or not Jesus Montero is in AAA to start the year or MLB he’s not going to get a significant number of reps behind the plate unless Martin or Cervelli get injured.

    So what is the value of passing on Carlos Beltran when you know darn well that Beltran is going to outhit Montero over the next 2 years as a DH?

    After 2012 if you want Montero at DH you make Beltran the RF in place of Swish.

    If you want Montero to catch full time, he’d have significantly more experience as a catcher by the end of 2012 so you could choose to not bring back Martin.

  67. blake December 20th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Phil,

    thanks….I agree. In a way I just want them to sign them both as a “screw you MLB” for messing with the international signing rules.

  68. jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    AL teams carry a DH and 2 catchers. Stop thinking of it as 3 catchers. Think of Montero as the DH who will also catch some games. They will still have 4 bench spots one of them being a backup catcher like most other teams.

  69. PhiltheThrill December 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Frankie Cervelli is done being able to keep Montero in the minors. It’s over. The cat’s out of the bag. He’s a great hitter and he’ll get 500 ab’s with the Yanks this year.

  70. Ys Guy December 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    i dont believe beltran can hold up as an everyday OF. and what if jesus hits his way onto this team this year, a definite possibility. you gonna keep him down in the minors so beltran can be the dh or you gonna put a $10M player on the bench? dont see it happening and i like beltran alot

  71. Bret The Hitman December 20th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    If you brought in Beltran he would not be an everyday OF.

  72. GreenBeret7 December 20th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    What difference if the yanks bid $20 mil or $51 mil….neither one was a winning bid according to reports. Darvish still isn’t worth upwards of $20 mil a year.

  73. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    There’s nothing wrong with the posting system

    Lol. Theres a lot wrong with the posting system. Money doesnt go to the players. No open bidding. Players are under too much control in Japan. Hurts the contracts available to those japanese players who get posted. Its kind of shameful for a japanese player to refuse to sign.
    ===========

    Oy. The money goes to the teams to release the players from their contracts early. This sounds perfectly reasonable to me to compensate the teams for their acquiescence. It’s not as if the NPB teams are rolling in money,

    The first price, sealed bid auction has been in use for decades in any number of applications, and it works just fine in bringing buyers and sellers together. Unless you have an actual charge to make on how the bidding actually failed (perhaps, a leaking of the bids), then you have nothing except some vague objection.

    The third point is related to the first. If the Japanes players wanted to play in the Majors, they probably shouldn’t have signed binding agreements with the club in Japan.

    Finally, the last thing is cultural, and has nothing to do with the posting system.

  74. jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Beltran started 134 games in the OF last year, not bad. For comparison Swisher started 140. But I don’t want him to replace Swisher, I want him in LF. That improves the offense a lot more than him just replacing Swisher. He sure would be nice insurance if Tex and/or Swisher don’t improve their swings vs rhp. .908 OPS vs rhp last year.

  75. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Ghost,

    If you can’t see the numerous things wrong with the posting system and the current setup in the NPB then… well I can’t believe it to be honest. The posting system is unfair to the player being posted.

    Players in the US are under 6 years of team control. Players in Japan are under control for 8 years. Its worse. They can’t get out even if they want to. And the posting system is not a big help. The players get zero choice of destination. Its worse than a trade and its worse than free agency.

  76. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    The system of blind bidding is fine… for a vase. Not for a baseball player.

  77. RadioKev December 20th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Bret The Hitman December 20th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    Whether or not Jesus Montero is in AAA to start the year or MLB he’s not going to get a significant number of reps behind the plate unless Martin or Cervelli get injured.

    So what is the value of passing on Carlos Beltran when you know darn well that Beltran is going to outhit Montero over the next 2 years as a DH?

    After 2012 if you want Montero at DH you make Beltran the RF in place of Swish.

    If you want Montero to catch full time, he’d have significantly more experience as a catcher by the end of 2012 so you could choose to not bring back Martin.
    ——-

    Catching in the majors could have a greater overall benefit than catching in the minors. He’d get to know the pitchers, he could be coached by Girardi and Pena, and he could see how Martin goes about it.

    Also your logic is very backwards if you’re suggesting Beltran shouldn’t be an every day outfielder in 2012, but somehow he should or could be in 2013. The Mysterious Case of Carlos Beltran?

    Montero’s bat should be an overall boost compared to Posada’s regular season last year. His bat will also probably be an upgrade over Martin’s on the days he catches.

    Carlos Beltran is superfluous, in my opinion.

  78. GreenBeret7 December 20th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    NY will carry 3 catchers because Montero will Dh a majority of the time. They aren’t going to risk losing the dH early in the game. Cervelli isn’t perfect and not a great hitter, but, his hits generally produce runs.

  79. RadioKev December 20th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Oy. The money goes to the teams to release the players from their contracts early. This sounds perfectly reasonable to me to compensate the teams for their acquiescence. It’s not as if the NPB teams are rolling in money,
    ——-

    That could be a totally fair statement. Why else would these teams post their players? What’s the incentive for just giving away their players?

    Perhaps there should be an automatic percentage of a players’ salary given to the team. Say 25-30%. Since it’s not a blind bid, the overall player salary would rise because of competition.

  80. RadioKev December 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    GreenBeret7 December 20th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
    NY will carry 3 catchers because Montero will Dh a majority of the time. They aren’t going to risk losing the dH early in the game. Cervelli isn’t perfect and not a great hitter, but, his hits generally produce runs.
    ——

    Eh, I’d take the risk. They’d probably get greater returns out of carrying another bench player or pitcher than carrying a third catcher.

  81. GreenBeret7 December 20th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    Cervelli and martin can fill in a couple of spots in an emergency and Cervelli could probably play an outfield corner if he had to

  82. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Ghost,

    If you can’t see the numerous things wrong with the posting system and the current setup in the NPB then… well I can’t believe it to be honest. The posting system is unfair to the player being posted.

    Players in the US are under 6 years of team control. Players in Japan are under control for 8 years. Its worse. They can’t get out even if they want to. And the posting system is not a big help. The players get zero choice of destination. Its worse than a trade and its worse than free agency.
    ==========

    Then your problem is with the system under which NPB contracts their players, and the posting system is only incidental. The posting system at least allows the players a chance to be released from their obligation to their clubs. Frankly, in this day and age, I don’t know why these players are agreeing to these contract terms in the first place, but they are doing so, presumably of their own volition.

    At least the posting system gives them an early out. And a given player’s desire to get out of NPB and into the Majors is what drives this decision. For example. Darvish probably has been under contract with his club since he was 18. Assuiming the eight-years of service required of him, he could have gotten out free and clear in a year or two, without the posting fee and without relinquishing the money that was paid to to the Ham Fighters as the posting fee. Again, it was his choice to do it now, and that decision had consequences of which he was fully aware.

    You’re probably right that the contractual terms for NPB players suck. But that is at best only incidentally related to the posting system.

    And the first price sealed bid system of bidding is used for considerably more than just vases. Before you complain about it, you may want to try informing yourself about it.

  83. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    EDIT:

    You’re probably right that the contractual terms for NPB players suck. But the posting system and the bidding process are least of what is wrong with it.

  84. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    And the first price sealed bid system of bidding is used for considerably more than just vases. Before you complain about it, you may want to try informing yourself about it.

    For a baseball player or someone whose services are required, its not a good system. Surely you can see that.

  85. Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Frankly, in this day and age, I don’t know why these players are agreeing to these contract terms in the first place

    They have no choice

  86. LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Players in Japan don’t have a choice to come to the major leagues before signing half their career away because aside from the sleezeball Red Sox, MLB teams respect the handshake agreement they have with NPB.

  87. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    And the first price sealed bid system of bidding is used for considerably more than just vases. Before you complain about it, you may want to try informing yourself about it.

    For a baseball player or someone whose services are required, its not a good system. Surely you can see that.
    =========

    It’s perfectly fine for construction projects and government contracts (most which are largely service contracts) it works perfectly fine. Why does it not work for baseball players? What is so unique about a baseball player’s services? Explain it to like I’m three years old.

    I’m not even sure that these are the right questions to ask. Essentially, the posting fee is a bribe paid to the NPB team to release a player from his contract isn’t it? Doesn’t this auction process settle the matter in a manner satisfactory to the NPB team? Doesn’t the player get what he wants? Sure, he has to pay to get out of the contract, but anybody that wants to break a contract has to absorb penalties for it to compensate the damaged party. the only thing that I can possibly see wrong with this, is that the penalities for breaking the contract with an NPB are not clearly outlined, with clear limitations on damages (or so I surmise). even if this is so, then the problem is with the contract, and not with the bidding process.

  88. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Jerkface December 20th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Frankly, in this day and age, I don’t know why these players are agreeing to these contract terms in the first place

    They have no choice
    =========

    Is slavery legal in Japan?

  89. yanks 27 December 20th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    The expectation in baseball is that the bidding for Cespedes could get “crazy.” One team official said the outfielder’s agent is seeking $25-45MM, but many believe the total value of the contract will exceed that.
    Some teams regard the Marlins as the early favorite to sign Cespedes

    .mlbtraderumors.com/

  90. jacksquat December 20th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Teams have control for 9 full years, not 8. Yu had 3 more years in Japan if he did not use the posting system.

  91. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Players in Japan don’t have a choice to come to the major leagues before signing half their career away because aside from the sleezeball Red Sox, MLB teams respect the handshake agreement they have with NPB.
    ===========

    What is the nature of this “handshake agreement”? What do the MLB teams agree to do?

  92. LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    “I’m old school — there has been an understanding,” said Cashman, whose team has a formal cooperative relationship with the Yomiuri Giants, a team particularly upset with the Tazawa affair. “There’s been a reason that Japanese amateurs haven’t been signed in the past, so we consider him hands off.”

  93. LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    Japanese are Irked by U.S. Interest in Pitcher

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11.....wanted=all

  94. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    “I’m old school — there has been an understanding,” said Cashman, whose team has a formal cooperative relationship with the Yomiuri Giants, a team particularly upset with the Tazawa affair. “There’s been a reason that Japanese amateurs haven’t been signed in the past, so we consider him hands off.”
    ===

    I see. So, it restricts MLB scouting activities of amateur athletes. Yes, I agree that this isn’t kosher. I wonder if MLB isn’t running afoul of the Sherman Antitrust Act on this one. I don’t think that their antitrust exemption extends to this kind of internationally collusive behavior.

  95. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    LGY, thanks for the info.

  96. Ghostwriter December 20th, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    Japanese are Irked by U.S. Interest in Pitcher

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11…..wanted=all
    ==========

    If I was a GM, I wouldn’t honor this so-called “agreement”. I think that it’s total BS.

  97. LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    If I was a GM, I wouldn’t honor this so-called “agreement”. I think that it’s total BS.

    —————–

    If they don’t it could potentially ruin NPB and destroy the working relationships many teams like the Yankees have built over in Japan.

    MLB would also have to find a way to deal with Japanese teams trying to poach US amateurs.

  98. jacksquat December 21st, 2011 at 12:02 am

    With some posting fees paying for a year or two of japanese teams’ entire payroll, you can see why they would not want the system to change, nor their best amateur talent being picked off by MLB teams.

  99. Ghostwriter December 21st, 2011 at 12:07 am

    LGY December 20th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    If I was a GM, I wouldn’t honor this so-called “agreement”. I think that it’s total BS.

    —————–

    If they don’t it could potentially ruin NPB and destroy the working relationships many teams like the Yankees have built over in Japan.

    MLB would also have to find a way to deal with Japanese teams trying to poach US amateurs.
    ============

    It isn’t clear that we get any consideration back from the NPB to warrant this kind of an accommodation. Amateur Japanese players should have the right to decide where they wish to live and work. This whole thing feels dirty.

    I think that NPB probably would be fine. However, some kind of accommodation probably could be worked out to protect NPB. I wouldn’t have a problem with Japanese teams “poaching” American players.

  100. Ghostwriter December 21st, 2011 at 12:09 am

    jacksquat December 21st, 2011 at 12:02 am

    With some posting fees paying for a year or two of japanese teams’ entire payroll, you can see why they would not want the system to change, nor their best amateur talent being picked off by MLB teams.
    ======

    From what I gather, those amateur player contracts seem entirely unfair to me. If I was a Japanese player, I would go to the DR or Mexican, and try to get noticed by an MLB team. I wouldn’t sign that contract with an NPB team.

  101. GreenBeret7 December 21st, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Looks like Cubs and Reds are working on a trade…Sean Marshall for travis Wood

  102. Ghostwriter December 21st, 2011 at 12:11 am

    EDIT:

    From what I gather, those amateur player contracts seem entirely unfair to me. If I was a Japanese player, I would go to the DR or Mexican leagues (or some such), and try to get noticed by an MLB team. I wouldn’t sign that contract with an NPB team.

  103. yanks 27 December 21st, 2011 at 12:26 am

    AdamRubinESPN In 17 relief appearances with Culiacan in Mexico, Oliver Perez has 0.00 ERA, 4 H, 7 BB, 15 K in 12 IP. Opponents hitting .103 (lefties .091)

  104. pat December 21st, 2011 at 12:41 am

    re: Braun’s reported medical condition……MLB has a theraputic use exemption for players who need to use banned substances for medical reasons. If Braun had a medical condition that needed to be treated with a banned substance the burden is on him to get the treatment okay and the exemption granted.

    There have been players who were given an exemption to use synthetic testosterone. They were still tested to assure they were not exceeding prescribed doses but were allowed to use the substance.

  105. m December 21st, 2011 at 3:15 am

    pat,

    That’s interesting.

    Sounds like a case of bad judgment by Braun. Hard to put the genie back in the bottle if what he says is true.

    I don’t know whether or not to believe him or not. The second test helps his case I suppose. But how does a test go to 4X the previously highest level to passing a test in such a short time?

    Either way, the seed has been planted in the mind of a lot of people.

  106. lounge lizard December 21st, 2011 at 5:05 am

    “Baseball players – along with other athletes – are loading up on synthetic testosterone (and perhaps HGH) at night, when the body is repairing itself between games and workouts. The testosterone is administered through patches, gels, creams or orals. By the following afternoon, when that player is vulnerable to MLB testing, the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone is beneath the 4-to-1 ratio that triggers a positive test.

    ‘It’s a loophole,’ Conte said, “you could drive a Mack truck through.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....ing_121211

    Braun got caught because he got sloppy and applied his testosterone booster on the morning of an afternoon test he wasn’t expecting. Of course he passed his own “second test” taken days later by his camp. The drugs we’re talking about clear the system in less than a day.

    And the “Oh, I was taking medication for an embarrassing genital condition” is out of the denier’s handbook. When the last Olympic 400 meter champion got caught he said it was because he was taking Extense.

    Braun can float whatever PR story he wants. But he better serve that ban if MLB is to keep any credibility.

  107. Tom in N.J. December 21st, 2011 at 6:54 am

    What kind of anti-viral drug will raise your testosterone to brobdingnagian levels?

  108. blake December 21st, 2011 at 7:33 am

    Cubs are close to sending Marshall to the Red for Travis Wood and prospects…….if they trade Garza then enter full rebuild mode.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

  109. upstate kate December 21st, 2011 at 7:44 am

    there is that name again :)

  110. Nick in SF December 21st, 2011 at 7:49 am

    I’m in the O’Hare and I’m ready for Yankee news.

    Lay it on me.

  111. dogface December 21st, 2011 at 7:51 am

    Cubs are close to sending Marshall to the Red for Travis Wood and prospects

    =============================

    Like that deal for the Reds. After Venters, Marshall may be the best left handed reliever out there right now.

  112. blake December 21st, 2011 at 7:53 am

    DF,

    Absolutely …..the Reds are going for it now that Pujols and Fielder are gone and before they lose Votto.

    Kate,

    You never know :)

  113. blake December 21st, 2011 at 7:54 am

    “I’m in the O’Hare and I’m ready for Yankee news.”

    Did you know that Gusty Molina is back in the fold!

  114. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 7:57 am

    My condolences if you are in O’Hare Nick

    Best part of that will be leaving it behind. Just make like a rabbit and get the heck out of there.

    Might be the single worst airport in America.

    :(

  115. Nick in SF December 21st, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Molina news just reminds me that commenter stuckey owes me $25 for our wager on whether the Imposter Molina would get an at-bat as a Yankee.

    Too many deadbeats around here. :mad:

  116. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Good morning-

    Apparently it’s Wood and 2 minor league prospects for Marshall. I wonder what the Yankees could have offered to get Marshall, then put him in the starting rotation, a spot he pitched from a few years ago.

    Has anyone heard anything more about the mystery team close to signing Hiroki Kuroda?

  117. Nick in SF December 21st, 2011 at 8:03 am

    If I want to send a picture to someone over twitter, do I have to sign up for some twitter-picture uploading/storage site???? Grrrrrr. Too much.

  118. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:04 am

    YT-

    The Nippon Ham Fighters.

    :)

  119. upstate kate December 21st, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Nick
    It appears that Trisha is the only one who honors bets w/ you.

  120. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Nick-

    You probably have a “smart phone”.

    Why not just ask “It” ?

    :)

  121. Nick in SF December 21st, 2011 at 8:06 am

    Patrick has paid up many times. :grin:

  122. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:08 am

    MTU-

    Joking aside. I just found this on Kuroda and the mystery team might be a Japanese one!!

    by Gen on Dec.21, 2011 @ 12:10 pm, under MLB

    Yahoo Sports’ Tim Brown has the following update on Hiroki Kuroda:

    While none of this is new or a surprise, I heard Monday morning that Kuroda was close to agreeing to a new contract and it wouldn’t be with the Dodgers. The Seattle Mariners said it wasn’t them, and the Arizona Diamondbacks, Colorado Rockies, Texas Rangers, Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees, among others, answered similarly: “Not us.”

    Daily Sports is reporting that six teams + the Hiroshima Carp are interested in Kuroda. They also mention that the Arizona Diamondbacks and New York Yankees offered deals worth around 1B yen a year, more three times the amount the Hiroshima Carp supposedly offered (300M yen a year).

    Kuroda apparently wants to decide on where he will be play next season before the end of the year and will consider all offers that are on the table

  123. dogface December 21st, 2011 at 8:08 am

    I wonder what the Yankees could have offered to get Marshall, then put him in the starting rotation, a spot he pitched from a few years ago.

    ========================

    Wouldn’t have wanted him in the rotation, IMO. Numbers suggest his stuff plays up as a reliever.

    ERA as a starter was almost 5. WHIP was 1.43. OPS against .785. K/9 of 6.1

    As a reliever, his ERA is 2.7. WHIP is 1.18. OPS against .613 and his K/9 balloons to 9.4.

  124. dogface December 21st, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Daily Sports is reporting that six teams + the Hiroshima Carp are interested in Kuroda. They also mention that the Arizona Diamondbacks and New York Yankees offered deals worth around 1B yen a year, more three times the amount the Hiroshima Carp supposedly offered (300M yen a year).

    ===========================

    I think the D’backs offer is probably off the table after the misguided signing of Kubel.

  125. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:10 am

    YT-

    I tell ya’. I have ESPB.

    :)

  126. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Nick-

    You probably have a “smart phone”.

    Why not just ask “It” ?
    ————————————-
    Siri couldn’t help me with twitter.

  127. upstate kate December 21st, 2011 at 8:12 am

    I hope it isn’t contagious ;)

  128. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Nick-

    That’s false advertising on Apple’s part.

    Siri is supposed to have ALL the answers.

    :(

  129. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Kate-

    Nah.

    :)

  130. Nick in SF December 21st, 2011 at 8:19 am

    It’s an Android phone, it told me to shut up and get on the plane.

    See ya!

  131. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Dogface-

    Thanks for the input of Marshall.

    Offer from the D-Backs is off the table for Kuroda. Kubel should have stayed in the AL.
    Other than Kuroda, Oswalt and Jackson, what’s left from the FA starters that might get a ML contract? Maholm? Others worth a ML contract?

  132. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Nick-

    safe flight. Happy Holiday.

    :)

  133. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:21 am

    YT-

    The price on Danks may still drop.

    ;)

  134. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:24 am

    MTU-

    I think this is the Siri whose inside my phone! :)

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Siri_Tachi

  135. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:27 am

    YT-

    You’re a lucky Man !

    She must have one of those “Victoria’s Secret” type voices.

    Mine just says, “Your bill from Verizon is due.” And it’s an old hag sayin’ it.

    :(

  136. joeman December 21st, 2011 at 8:28 am

    CC is rooting for the right football team…..

    They trade Gardner yet ?

  137. dogface December 21st, 2011 at 8:29 am

    The price on Danks may still drop.

    ======================

    Probably will, but that’s a double edge sword. Once you exclude the Betances, Montero, Banuelos names from the proceedings, you’re then talking about prospects packages that a lot of other teams who might be interested in Danks can compete with.

  138. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:31 am

    DF-

    Maybe. Maybe not. Can they include a good young Catching prospect who is ML ready ?

    (Subject to the proper terms of course).

  139. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Will Yu Darvish sign with the Rangers in the next 29 days or return to Japan?

    When reporters asked Nippon Ham Fighters’ team rep Toshimasa Shimada what the team planned on doing with the bid, he replied, “We still have not received the money and there is no guarantee that we will.”

    He is also quoted as saying the following:

    “We just really wanted to help Darvish realize his dreams. This is what is most important to him.”

    “Personally, I think it was good that it was the Rangers. [Yoshinori] Tateyama is there as well. … Of course, if things do not work out, he will be signing with us.”

    He made 6M[contract] and a reported 6M in endorsements this season. Will the Rangers go 15M x 5-6 years for a total outlay of126-141M???

  140. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:35 am

    YT-

    I think he signs.

    ;)

  141. dogface December 21st, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Can they include a good young Catching prospect who is ML ready ?

    ======================

    Don’t know. Not sure the Yankees can.

  142. joeman December 21st, 2011 at 8:35 am

    give them Gardner & for Danks

  143. dogface December 21st, 2011 at 8:36 am

    I think Darvish signs on the last day for about $12M per season.

  144. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:36 am

    DF-

    You don’t think Romine is such a person ?

    I do.

    YT-

    Darvish just wants to top DiceMan. If the Rangers exceed that he’ll sign for sure.

  145. Erin December 21st, 2011 at 8:38 am

    What is that behind CC? An ape? LOL

  146. dogface December 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am

    You don’t think Romine is such a person ?

    =====================

    Not right now, no.

  147. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:41 am

    Joeman-

    Did they trade Gardner yet?? Interesting. Are there any teams out there that are looking for a CF’er that might be willing to trade a starter? I know the Nationals are but I’m sure Jordan Zimmerman and Strasburg are untouchable.

  148. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:41 am

    DF-

    Then I guess we agree to disagree on that one.

    But what will Kenny Williams think ?

    Because that’s what really matters.

    ;)

  149. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:45 am

    MTU-

    Matsusaka got 52M guaranteed in his 6 year contract [8.66M/year] and another 8M in incentives that he won’t reach. If he signs for that he’ll be taking less than what he could make in Japan-salary plus endorsements.

  150. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am

    YT-

    OK. Then they need to beat that amount by a dollar.

    Maybe he really wants to prove himself where it really counts too.

    ;)

  151. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Here’s my dream.

    I want the Yankees to have a minimum of 2 quality left-handed Starters ( 3 would be even better).

    The reason(s) is/are because many of our competitors have strong left-handed lineups.

    Not only that, we play the majority of our games in a stadium that is very friendly to left-handed hitters.

    I want to neutralize that with respect to our opponents.

    In that regard, I also hope we get another left-handed reliever who can really shut down left-handed
    batters.

    So. How about ?

    CC
    Hamels
    Nova
    Hughes
    Banuelos

    At some point (maybe 2013).

    Like it ? I do.

    P.S. Danks would work almost as well.

    :)

  152. Mike Ri December 21st, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Not sure why the Yanks aren’t in on Oswalt on a ONE year deal. I know the back injuries draw some red flags… But its just a one year deal. prior to Last year Colon had some injuries and the Yankees still took a shot on him.

    idk

  153. joeman December 21st, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:41 am
    Joeman-

    Did they trade Gardner yet?? Interesting. Are there any teams out there that are looking for a CF’er that might be willing to trade a starter? I know the Nationals are but I’m sure Jordan Zimmerman and Strasburg are untouchable.

    ———————————-
    lot of teams out ther looking for some O….

  154. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Mike-

    Tony Pena’s scouted/managed Bartolo all DWL season before they signed him.

    So the risk was minimal.

    ;)

  155. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am

    What starting pitchers are rumored to be available thru trade. Looking at the ones that will require the biggest return from the Yankees to the least. Help me out here.

    1. Gio Gonzalez-dealing with Beane. Lefties are gold. Under wraps for 4 more years.

    2. Matt Garza-dealing with ex-Red Sox. Strikout stuff. Used to pitching well in AL East. Playoff tested

    3. Wandy Rodriguez-Lefty. Contract becomes a 3 year one with trade. Lefties held to a .233 BAA. Pitches for worst team in NL

    4. Wade Davis-Only ahead of Danks because he’s not a FA next season. Hold righties to a .246 BAA

    5. John Danks- Lefties are gold, however a FA. Had an off year?

    6. Jair Jurrjens- Young was once pretty dominant. If the braves are willing to deal him-buyer beware.

    So therefore MTU, the price on Danks “might” come down, especially if the pitchers listed above him don’t fetch as much as some thought.

    Open for disagreement and additions.

  156. Yankee Trader December 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Meant to add for Jurrjens-Injuries-buyer beware.

  157. 108 stitches December 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Getting a taker for Burnett would open the floodgates for Cashman to do a few things either internally or externally. It opens doors for talent within the organization or trigger a reasonable deal elsewhere.

  158. Erin December 21st, 2011 at 9:01 am

    BryanHoch Red Sox could make play for Andruw http://wp.me/p1rXvG-8WF2

  159. Carlo December 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am

    A – Hamels will not be a Yankee after next year. Wont happen, you can forget it.

    B – Sabathia, Hughes, Nova, Burnett, Garcia, Noesi………C’MON MAN!

  160. Erin December 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am

    New Post: Little progress between Yankees and Andruw Jones

    :arrow:

  161. joeman December 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Mike Ri December 21st, 2011 at 8:56 am
    Not sure why the Yanks aren’t in on Oswalt on a ONE year deal. I know the back injuries draw some red flags… But its just a one year deal. prior to Last year Colon had some injuries and the Yankees still took a shot on him.

    ———————————————————
    I believe his back issues started after he took time off to go back home because of the massive tornado outbreak, he did have a issue with his back but some of the time he missed wasn’t because of the injury

  162. MTU December 21st, 2011 at 9:03 am

    YT-

    Cashman will wait for an opportunity.

    If the price drops sufficiently I believe he’ll move.

    If not we go to war with what we have.

    Hike day today. Got to run soon.

  163. pat December 21st, 2011 at 9:05 am

    m

    Can’t be lying since he hasn’t said anything. “Trial balloons” being launched by someone to see what might work now before he speaks.

    I’m guessing Braun’s camp already knows they aren’t getting the suspension reversed so now are working on preserving his reputation in the court of public opinion.

    Not sure an STD defense is the way to go but to each their own.

    I read that Conte interview as well as another where he says he doesn’t think HGH has much of a PED effect. The judge in the Galea ruling also seemed to make a distinction between the HGH used for healing and used for performance enhancement. Made me wonder if MLB would issue a therapeutic use exemption for HGH for a player trying to rehab from an injury if they applied for one.

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