Catch Robertson tonight on YES Network
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 21, 2011 
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Tonight’s newest episode of Yankees Access on YES focuses on reliever Dave Robertson, the breakout star of the Yankees bullpen and one of the team’s homegrown pitchers making a significant impact at the big league level.
Jack Curry went down to Tampa to spend a few days with Robertson, and during a fishing trip, the two discussed who Robertson would take with him in a fantasy fishing boat. Spoiler alert: It includes two former Yankees.
You’ll also see Dave and his wife Erin discussing their whirlwind relationship, and their charity work down in Tuscaloosa, and Curry goes to the mound with Robertson to discuss his knack for getting out of trouble, as well as his unnaturally long stride.
Yankees Access airs tonight at 8 p.m. ET.
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next years FA class is a good one for OF,SP & RP
Joe buck is now on twitter
https://twitter.com/Buck
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Now Jack Z should go to the Yankees and demand essentially the same package I suggested last March — catcher Jesus Montero, infielder Eduardo Nunez and right-hander Ivan Nova plus righty Dellin Betances or lefty Manny Banuelos.
Maybe the Yankees wouldn’t budge on Nova, who went 16-4 with a 3.70 ERA last season. Fine, tell them to include two different youngsters, make it a 5-for-1. For King Felix, the Yankees would part waters, move mountains and — surprise! — blow past the dreaded luxury-tax threshold yet again.
Are Gardner and Montero gone yet
AZ88 December 21st, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Are Gardner and Montero gone yet
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Gardner would be nice
Joeman with his weekly “Trade Montero” tripe.
“They have 10-15 million to spend under their self cap……and theyd have more if they’d bite the bullet and trade AJ.”
According to Baseball Reference the Yanks would be right around $200MM with expected arbitration raises and filling out the roster. I’d be all for their signing Kuroda at 1/$15MM, but the Yanks just don’t seem to want to do it. You have to believe they want to be around $200-205MM for whatever reason.
“blake, what are they saving? $4 mil a year? To get what back for him? The opportunity to shoot another $12 mil for a 37 year old pitcher? Quite the savings there.”
Probably 6-8 million……and they traded for Jurjjins in the discussion.
The Yankees coukd make the following moves and keep the payroll pretty much where it is now.
Trade Swisher and Nunez for Jurjjins
Sign Beltran 2/25
Trade AJ (sending half his contract )
+12.5(Beltran )+ 8 (Jair) – 10 (Swisher)- 8 AJ= +2.5 million added.
blake-
I think Beltran will get an AAV north of $12.5MM when all is said and done.
Anyway, have to run. Sorry to post and run.
“Now Jack Z should go to the Yankees and demand essentially the same package I suggested last March — catcher Jesus Montero, infielder Eduardo Nunez and right-hander Ivan Nova plus righty Dellin Betances or lefty Manny Banuelos.”
The Yankees should say no to this……Felix only has 3 years of control left…..and costs a lot of money now. He’s not as attractive as he used to be.
“I think Beltran will get an AAV north of $12.5MM when all is said and done.”
Maybe a little…..but I doubt much
blake December 21st, 2011 at 5:46 pm
“Now Jack Z should go to the Yankees and demand essentially the same package I suggested last March — catcher Jesus Montero, infielder Eduardo Nunez and right-hander Ivan Nova plus righty Dellin Betances or lefty Manny Banuelos.”
The Yankees should say no to this……Felix only has 3 years of control left…..and costs a lot of money now. He’s not as attractive as he used to be.
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25 years old and in his prime time years….
“The orioles are dying for top pitchers, not offense and they turned down Jurrjens, Prado and a top pitching prospect. Why? Because most feel somethings up with Jurrjens.”
Or….because they know they aren’t going to compete in the two years of control Jair has left……if they trade Jones Id expect them to want prospects.
Look…..I have concerns about his knee as well…..but that doesn’t mean you rule a guy out totally…..you just lessen what you’ll offer.
Felix and CC is a ticket to the WS for the next 3 years
CARLOS BELTRAN:
Sports Illustrated
Free-agent outfielder Carlos Beltran is expected to make a decision on his future sometime within the next week, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
It is believed five different teams are in the mix for the switch-hitter, including the St. Louis Cardinals, Boston Red Sox, Toronto Blue Jays, Colorado Rockies and one unknown.
Beltran, 34, just finished a seven-year $119 million contract which he signed with the New York Mets in 2005. The slugging outfielder played seven seasons with New York before being traded mid-way through 2011 to the San Francisco Giants.
In 142 games last season, Beltran hit .300/.385/.525 with 22 home runs and 84 RBI. The performance was considered one of the best comebacks of the year, as Beltran had failed to play more than 81 games in a season since 2008. Before being traded to San Francisco, Beltran was named to his sixth All-Star team.
Once a world-class centerfielder, it is believed that Beltran would best serve a team as a corner outfielder or even as the designated hitter at this point in his career. In 2011, the former Gold Glove award winner posted a -7.3 UZR overall, a far cry from the 12.4 UZR he posted for the New York Mets in 2008 in his last full season.
Now Jack Z should go to the Yankees and demand essentially the same package I suggested last March — catcher Jesus Montero, infielder Eduardo Nunez and right-hander Ivan Nova plus righty Dellin Betances or lefty Manny Banuelos.
Maybe the Yankees wouldn’t budge on Nova, who went 16-4 with a 3.70 ERA last season.
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they can have Montero/Betances/Nunez/Nova
i’d try and sub Gardner for Nova though.
Blake,
In all seriousness, does adding both Beltran and Jurrjens (two durability gambles) sound like moves this front office would make based on their recent trends the last couple of years?
It seems like some Yankee fans are so starved for this team to make moves that most aren’t being remotely realistic regarding player acquisitions.
AZ88 December 21st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Now Jack Z should go to the Yankees and demand essentially the same package I suggested last March — catcher Jesus Montero, infielder Eduardo Nunez and right-hander Ivan Nova plus righty Dellin Betances or lefty Manny Banuelos.
Maybe the Yankees wouldn’t budge on Nova, who went 16-4 with a 3.70 ERA last season.
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they can have Montero/Betances/Nunez/Nova
i’d try and sub Gardner for Nova though.
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there you go a place for Gardner
joeman December 21st, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Felix and CC is a ticket to the WS for the next 3 years
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Sure it is. Just like Halladay and Lee (and Hamels) was for the Phillies.
Giuseppe Franco December 21st, 2011 at 5:54 pm
joeman December 21st, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Felix and CC is a ticket to the WS for the next 3 years
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Sure it is. Just like Halladay and Lee (and Hamels) was for the Phillies.
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see your point but I like there chances better than what they have now
“Felix and CC is a ticket to the WS for the next 3 years”
Felix/CC with our offense and bullpen = lights out
Yank 97 December 21st, 2011 at 5:58 pm
“Felix and CC is a ticket to the WS for the next 3 years”
Felix/CC with our offense and bullpen = lights out
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are you WCYF…
NYYs have the players right now to continue winning over the next few years while not blowing money on big gambles with ML contracts. Right now, the goal seems to be to get under that penalty tax and save nearly $40 mil a year in penalties and then restarting that clock.
GreenBeret7 December 21st, 2011 at 6:01 pm
NYYs have the players right now to continue winning over the next few years while not blowing money on big gambles with ML contracts. Right now, the goal seems to be to get under that penalty tax and save nearly $40 mil a year in penalties and then restarting that clock.
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sure looks like their plan
“25 years old and in his prime time years….”
Thrown as many innings as a lot of 30 year olds….costs a lot of money …..and only has 3 years of control left……
joeman December 21st, 2011 at 5:56 pm
see your point but I like there chances better than what they have now
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What their roster looks like on December 21, 2011 will look different than it does on October 1, 2012.
Blake
You do not want Jurrjens. The Braves are trying to unload him-injury and all by offering Prado with him
blake December 21st, 2011 at 6:05 pm
“25 years old and in his prime time years….”
Thrown as many innings as a lot of 30 year olds….costs a lot of money …..and only has 3 years of control left……
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will cost a lot more when he’s a FA with more miles and age on him…..but when he is a FA the Yankees will be waiting
GB – hi, hope you’re well.
That’s the key point, I think, resetting the luxury tax “clock”. I wonder if they’ve checked the FA class for when that clock restarts?
King Felix doesn’t seem too interested in playing for the Yanks.
joeman – Nope. He was banned I believe.
Saving two years of those penalties will almost pay for a Cano contract for 4 years. That’s a lot of money to pour back into much needed players by that time.
forget king felix. focus on the terrific players the yanks already have.
GF,
Im in no way saying the Yankees will do that…..Im speaking in hypothetical. However I believe it would make the team better…..
Yank 97 December 21st, 2011 at 6:11 pm
joeman – Nope. He was banned I believe.
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he’s the only one who agreed with me here……
here come the bombs
“forget king felix. focus on the terrific players the yanks already have.”
LOL
Trader,
His arm is fine….they are trying to move him to fill holes and because he’s getting expensive. They are trying to take him and turn him into other pieces they need……..the knee is an issue…..so that would be reflected in what you offer.
afternoon, joe In LI. Thanks for the Fielder response last night. Doing pretty well, thanks. Hope all is well with you and Mrs Joe and ya’ll have a great holiday.
watched the australia vs World All start Game today. Some good, some bad but really entertaining.
Damned. MLB rehashing the Posey plate collision. dave Valle still blaming Cousins for that one.
Three years of King Felix, at any price, is extremely valuable. You would be getting three prime years of an established star pitcher.
But Seattle is not moving him – it really is a pipe dream right now.
Agree with GB
For the Yankees that clock resets @17.5%instead of 50%
Cano and Granderson are potential FAs in 2014!
GreenBeret7 -
GreenBeret7 December 21st, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Saving two years of those penalties will almost pay for a Cano contract for 4 years. That’s a lot of money to pour back into much needed players by that time.
I like that train of thought.
Jurrjens has had two surgeries in two years on the same knee. I won’t even mention the drop in velocity.
Felix would be awesome but I wouldn’t trade that package for him anymore.
I don’t believe the Yankees could possibly be interested in minor upgrades who have injury issues. They have been burned by Feliciano, Marte and others (those are the two off the top of my head). No need to do that.
Blake
If the Yankees trade for Jurrjens then they are ignoring his medicals
“Jurrjens has had two surgeries in two years on the same knee. I won’t even mention the drop in velocity.”
The velo drop was from the knee…..obviously extensive medicals would need to be done and as I said even if that checks out the risk would be factored into the offer for him. He’s 25 years old…….people do recover from injuries….especially non arm related ones
Trader,
We dont’t know what the medicals say.
NYYs aren’t exactly hurting for talent on the major and minor league levels. Nobody in the AL East has improved over the last season. After the Yanks get into the post season, anything can and usually does happen.
the velocity didn’t improve after the first surgery going into the next season. Why expect it to improve after the second?
Jair was pretty darn good in the 1st half last year.
Blake
Two surgeries same knee. What do you think is left in that joint. I stayed at a HIE
People yammer on about Chamberlain’s and Hughes’ velocity drops then want to go out and get one with the same issues….Jiminez and Jurrjens
the velocity didn’t improve after the first surgery going into the next season. Why expect it to improve after the second?
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Why do you expect Hughes’ velocity to improve?
I acknowledge the risks with Jurjjins…..which is why I wouldn’t give up a ton for him..
Joe from Long Island December 21st, 2011 at 6:11 pm
forget king felix. focus on the terrific players the yanks already have.
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especially the pitchers
blake December 21st, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I acknowledge the risks with Jurjjins…..which is why I wouldn’t give up a ton for him..
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Then you can forget him, because they’re asking a ton…just like Beane and Williams are.
His last surgery was a meniscus repair ……Martin, Sabathia, and Arod all had the same surgery in the last year.
ATLANTA — Atlanta Braves right-hander Jair Jurrjens said Thursday he plans to see a specialist after an MRI on his ailing right knee showed a bone bruise.
Pushes off on that knee. Why do you think the MRI shows a bone bruise in the knee joint!
No No No on Jair Jurrjens
BTW-Tim Hudson just had his lumbar surgery
Not only is Hudson out for some time, but, so is Hanson. that tells me all I need to know about wren’s objective. Try to sucker somebody into paying the ransom on Jurrjens..
Thank you GB.
Blake-trust your Georgia connections.:)
.” Try to sucker somebody into paying the ransom on Jurrjens”
That’s what they all try
I don’t see any point whatsoever in acquiring Jurrjens, and certainly wouldn’t trade a top 10 prospect in the Yankee system.
“I don’t see any point whatsoever in acquiring Jurrjens, and certainly wouldn’t trade a top 10 prospect in the Yankee system.”
The point is to try and improve the rotation……but I probably wouldn’t pay what they want to either.
Anyway…..didn’t mean to start a Jurrgins debate.
This jurrjens thing smells a lot like the Colby Rasmus scam that Toronto fell for. The difference is Jurrjens production (when healthy, which he hasn’t shown in 3 years) and Rasmus’ production. He’s been a bust that outweighs what he’s done in 2 of his 3 years. He was a total disaster last year in st. Louis and Toronto, yet almost everybody was drooling all over him and were upset about the Yanks not going after him.
Blake-
Still friends
If you’re trying to improve the rotation 1) aim higher 2) tell us who leaves the rotation (no one is paying AJ much of anything so that is out).
if Burnett continues to struggle and he isn’t traded (if it makes sense for NY), he’ll be in the bullpen.
Anyway need to go
Maybe we’ll get a nice present from the Steinbrenners for X-MAS
Blake-
I wouldn’t mind getting Prado and O’Flaherty.
I wonder if he’s as good as his kid. If so, sign him.
http://www.baseball-reference......nuel001fid
Mason Williams will be on Yankee Baseball Daily on Yes at 7 tonight.
For all of those who keep talking about the Yankees not having a lot of minor league outfield depth, while that is true, you don’t need that if you have one or two super talents, and in Mason and Ravel Santana they have two guys as talented as anyone since Bernie was coming up.
In a year from now, no one will be talking about their lack of outfielders, be patient guys.
GB-
I’m not signing anyone named Fidel.
Next you’ll be looking for his cousin Hugo.
Didn’t Santana play demolition derby with his ankle ?
Is he over that ?
Yes MTU he messed up his ankle with a few weeks to go in the GCL season, but according to both Mark Newman, and his manager Carlos Mendoza, he is doing great in his recovery and should be ready by spring training.
Another team’s scout’s opinions on Manny Banuelos.
Go back and read his other reports if you have interest in Norris’ series.
http://minormatterstrenton.blo.....uelos.html
Jason-
Thanks. From what I had heard it was severe injury.
ZMAN – stuff it.
The Red Sox has a no-brainer to help fill their catching void and a perfect holiday gift for their fans,
http://www.baseball-reference......st01.shtml
The Yanks could also send the Red Sox Noel Castillo, Alexander Santa and JT Snow for Lester.
No problem MTU, and yeah I heard the same thing, but I guess the surgery they did fixed the problem, and he is healing ahead of or right on schedule.
I think it was Mendoza who said he was not even limping anymore, and that was over a month ago.
One more thing on high end prospects that I think some people forget, they don’t take long, when they are the real deal.
Montero if not for the position he played would have been up sometime in 2010.
I think in Williams and Santana they have two players who might fly through their system, since their talent is that high.
The same would be true with Sanchez, although again he is a catcher, but even Jesus flew through from Charleston to Scranton in two years.
Williams is currently on the Eliot Ness list.
Right between Al Capone and “Babyface” Banuelos
“I wouldn’t mind getting Prado and O’Flaherty.”
What you giving
GB-
yessir.
Don’t forget “Machine Gun” Montero.
And “Pretty Boy” Betances.
Is “Machinegun” Betances, “Masher” Montero and “Scarface” Bichette on there, too?
LGY……Think torque when discussing Phil Hughes and his fast ball…..Core muscles are vital…The essence to pitching..
I thought “Pretty Boy’s” name was Jeter
Blake-
Nunez and Phelps.
or
Nakajima and Phelps.
We can’t write off Rasmus and Jurrgins in their mid 20s and then say that Hughes and Joba are still developing.
GB-
OK.
Dellin “the Chin” Betances.
Feel better.
MTU,
Id do that…especially Nakajima. Id really test the Braves on their interest in Nunez and see how far it goes.
Pat M.,
Glad you’re here. I mentioned last night that Robertson has said he lengthened his stride by nearly 14 inches since his early years and picked up control and speed. Question is, has both Hughes and Chamberlain somehow shortened theirs since the minors and lost speed and control.
Blake-
Only can deal Nunez if the Yankees sign Nakajima.
Still risky though because Naky might just suck even as a utility guy.
MTU December 21st, 2011 at 7:32 pm
GB-
OK.
Dellin “the Chin” Betances.
Feel better.
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OK, but, how about Joba “Chins” Chamberlain?
The Pitcher who holds the record for longest stride for a given height is one Timmy Lincecum.
One of the reasons he is called “The freak”.
GreenBeret7 December 21st, 2011 at 6:33 pm
blake December 21st, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I acknowledge the risks with Jurjjins…..which is why I wouldn’t give up a ton for him..
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Then you can forget him, because they’re asking a ton…just like Beane and Williams are.
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They could get Jujins for Swisher and a couple of prospects (not Montero or the B’s). However, I just don’t trust the Braves.
I saw earlier today a post about Andrew Jones, one thing to think about, if they let him walk, use Nunez as that right handed outfielder, and sign Nakajima, you get younger, faster, cheaper, and maybe even better.
GB-
Nope.
That was “Chins” Colon.
Williams is next folks on Yes.
Cross John Danks off your Christmas wish list.
Jason-
I don’t get YES.
I get NO.
From my cable co.
Jason22 December 21st, 2011 at 7:37 pm
I saw earlier today a post about Andrew Jones, one thing to think about, if they let him walk, use Nunez as that right handed outfielder, and sign Nakajima, you get younger, faster, cheaper, and maybe even better.
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That sounds like a pretty good idea….
5 years, 65M for Danks.
I just dont see Jonesy as a necessity …..especially if he’s wanting more money than last year.
LGY-
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MTU December 21st, 2011 at 7:38 pm
GB-
Nope.
That was “Chins” Colon.
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More chins than a Chinese phonebook?
If I’m looking to move a SP with good stuff but having spotty results, (AJ), my 1st call goes to the Cards\Duncan. The Cards were ready to trade for Pavano back when the Yanks were attempting to dump him, but Cash lollygaged and Pavano got hurt again. Yanks need to eat 1\2 of the remaining contract and move on. What the Yanks receive in return is inconsequential.
LGY-
From whom ?
link please.
Hold that thought. Saw it on twitter but hasn’t been confirmed yet. My bad.
GB-
More folds than an accordion.
A human Shar Pei.
So, Mason Williams has started out on the wrong foot on his way up the ladder. He’s let himself go and ballooned up by 25 pounds.
LGY-
You are in deep sh*t for that.
Sorry
Forget making trades and sign Oswalt dangnabit!
LGY-
Kuroda was hit by a bus while crossing the street.
I see where Randy’s friend, Neil Allen has interviewed for the Red Sox opening for pitching coach. Wasn’t selected though…at least not yet.
that danks bit doesn’t make sense. he’s not a fa, so it would have to be from the white sox. but, the white sox are in rebuilding mode. that’s why they hired robin ventura for manager.
both the white sox and cubs in rebuilding mode. what a next couple of years for chicago’s baseball fans.
LGY spreading rumors
GB-
I hope not.
Don’t want them getting anyone good.
blake December 21st, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I just dont see Jonesy as a necessity …..especially if he’s wanting more money than last year.
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He’s a good $2 mil for one year investment.
Good interview for the most part with Williams, he talked about putting on weight, they asked him about being a 5 tool talent, which does not really make sense right now for what he already is.
He is a 4 tool guy with the potential to be 5, but even if he never develops big time power, it does not matter, his other 4 tools are all above average.
He also mentioned working out in Tampa, which he has been for 6 weeks, and being there with a lot of the veterans, and how that feels, and he said, he was wide eyed, and he looks forward to the day when he is the veteran.
Very funny GB, yes Mason Williams has become fat, lets hope he puts on another 10 to 15 in the next year or two.
curry has an interesting take on the dodgers-angels dynamic in socal. i think he’s right.
Joe from Long Island December 21st, 2011 at 7:49 pm
that danks bit doesn’t make sense. he’s not a fa, so it would have to be from the white sox. but, the white sox are in rebuilding mode. that’s why they hired robin ventura for manager.
both the white sox and cubs in rebuilding mode. what a next couple of years for chicago’s baseball fans.
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Along with the Mets, it’s going to be the Ugly Girls Prom all vying for queen and her court.
I’ll take Venters over O’Flaherty.
MTU December 21st, 2011 at 7:49 pm
GB-
I hope not.
Don’t want them getting anyone good.
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Could send them Randy instead.
Sorry Randy….just too easy to pass up.
GB…..I think in the case of Robertson the longer stride gets him down and his release point is more directed to the zone….Think how low Tom Seaver was so if you’re going to miss it’s going to be in the lower rather than up in the zone which as we know is not a good thing…As for Joba and certainly for Hughes if your carrying some extra baggage around the torso, it’s hard to make a powerful turn towards the plate…….I think we’re going to see a different Phil Hughes come spring…….I’ll look at some video tonight comparing both guys from a few years ago, but frankly I didn’t see anything unusual with Phil during his struggles in the earlier part of 2011 when he lost zip and was flat….I say it was due to a hangover from his innings consumption from the year prior……Joba, well we can only hope he takes his conditioning seriously
gb – with the dodgers’ situation being ironed out – mccourt selling the team, new owners in about a year – that leaves the mets as the most messed up franchise in mlb. and i really don’t see it getting better. wilpon will be forced to sell the whole thing. how long it takes him to realize it is the only question.
It was a joke because of all of the whining over Chamberlain and Hughes. Williams went from 155 to 180.
Pat M. December 21st, 2011 at 7:55 pm
GB…..I think in the case of Robertson the longer stride gets him down and his release point is more directed to the zone….Think how low Tom Seaver was so if you’re going to miss it’s going to be in the lower rather than up in the zone which as we know is not a good thing…As for Joba and certainly for Hughes if your carrying some extra baggage around the torso, it’s hard to make a powerful turn towards the plate…….I think we’re going to see a different Phil Hughes come spring…….I’ll look at some video tonight comparing both guys from a few years ago, but frankly I didn’t see anything unusual with Phil during his struggles in the earlier part of 2011 when he lost zip and was flat….I say it was due to a hangover from his innings consumption from the year prior……Joba, well we can only hope he takes his conditioning seriously
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Thanks, Pat. I just remember hughes being more of the Seaver/Ryan “drop and drive” pitcher than he is now. Maybe not to that extreme, but, more than now. Was just curious about your thoughts
I wasn’t aware that David Robertson’s brother was Conner Robertson who pitched for Oakland.
People compared Hughes to Clemens a bit because of his drop and drive type delivery. I don’t know if it has changed significantly. I just wish he’d get that great curveball he used to have back.
Norris’ scouting report on Corbin Joseph
http://minormatterstrenton.blo.....oseph.html