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Using what’s left to fill what’s open

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 16, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

For nearly three months, the Yankees focused on improving their rotation. CC Sabathia was their first order of business, Freddy Garcia was an early depth move, and their biggest splash of the winter was a double dose of starting pitching.

Now they need a bat.

With Jesus Montero shipped to Seattle, the Yankees are in the market for a regular designated hitter. They will obviously use that role to occasionally rest their veterans — and a guy like Andruw Jones could fill that void against lefties — but the Yankees now have a spot for a hitter. Whether they have money for a hitter is something different altogether.

The Yankees are reportedly looking to spend no more than $2 million for a designated hitter, which might not be enough to land some of the top bats left on the market. Carlos Pena and Johnny Damon were almost immediately connected to the Yankees after the Montero trade, but there are some other bats still out there.

Ability to play the field doesn’t matter in this spot. The Yankees are on the hunt for the biggest bat for the buck.

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268 Responses to “Using what’s left to fill what’s open”

  1. Mike Ri January 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Manny Ramirez !! …..

  2. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    No Montero Picture, things are looking up. :)

  3. Stoneburner January 16th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Stoneburner January 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock January 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    like Montero being traded was like Munson losing his life in a plane crash, or, I’m turning in me season tickets (of course, he’s still here).
    ///

    You’re as much a revisionist as that polemicist that tries to snare people with an inexact word rather than a sounder argument.

    What I said was I haven’t felt this down since Munson’s death. I didn’t equate his being traded with Munson losing his life, but just do what you do.

    As for my season tickets, since you’re tucked away in Georgia or where ever you come from, you don’t contribute to the Yankee profit margin so you’re voice is sounding a hollow note. You and Stoneburner, who lives in Texas I believe, are ridiculous with this “loyal Yankee” stuff. The thing is, while I expect that kind of stupidity from him, I would not have from you. So you must be hurting as much as I am, you just express it differently. Therefore, pass. Besides, you have an outlet I don’t: As the World Turns.

    ********

    Hey moron – I used to live in New York – but moved to Texas to take care of my Dad who is ill.

    Hey moron – I get back for Yankees games during the summer.

    Canceling your tickets over this trade shows your true colors.

  4. exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Kevin Long on Austin Romine: “His leg kick is now officially gone.”

  5. Teary . Francona January 16th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Hope your dad is ok Stoneburner

  6. Best To Ever Do It January 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Kevin Long on Austin Romine: “His leg kick is now officially gone.”

    ———————

    Romine will probably end up being a career back-up catcher

  7. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    “Now they need a bat.”

    ——————

    Get him stuckey!!

  8. Stoneburner January 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Teary . Francona January 16th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    Hope your dad is ok Stoneburner

    *******

    Thanks – best to you as well.

  9. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS
    while #redsox are in contact w/ oswalt, they dont have money to sign him now. @bradfo says they can do it if they clear $

  10. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    while #redsox are in contact w/ oswalt, they dont have money to sign him now. @bradfo says they can do it if they clear $

    Trade DJ Mitchell for David Ortiz

  11. Joe from Long Island January 16th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    same people causing trouble

  12. pat January 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    dannyburawa
    Long tossing when its 28 degrees out because you live in the northeast and have to throw a 45 pitch pen the 1st day of ST @MiLBplayerPrblm

  13. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    If the Yankees are really limiting themselves to $2mil… then they are not really looking for any different of a player than I have been suggesting all day.

    If they are smart, that player will back up 3B or SS/2B (or all 3), and that player will have better splits against RHP.

    I just don’t know who that player is this offseason… which is why I started out by saying it may be a good time to let Vazquez et al give it a try for the first few months of the season, and make a move for a better DH if needed in June/July.

  14. butterball January 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    I was under the impression that this horribly overpriced Yankee cap I wear contributes to the Steinbrenner profit margin even though I live in warm, balmy, snow and hurricane free California.

    And I wish he would spend some of those profits on real knickerbockers for the team so that they can stop looking like a bunch of early teens wearing hand-me-downs.

  15. Stoneburner January 16th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    What I said was I haven’t felt this down since Munson’s death. I didn’t equate his being traded with Munson losing his life, but just do what you do.

    ************

    I am not going to comment on the Munson remark – so I am taking that out of the equation b/c that is real life stuff.

    So you are saying – losing Montero was more devastating to you than:

    1) 2001 WS Game 7
    2) 2004 ALCS Game 7
    3) 1997 ALDS Game 4 (the Almomar HR)
    4) 1995 ALDS Game 5

  16. YankeeNiner January 16th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    All they need to do is trade AJ Burnett for someone’s stale popcorn and ask the team to take on half his salary. The Yanks pay the rest.

    There’s got to to be some NL team (Milwaukee, Cubs, Houston, Florida) that would take him and have as a 3rd or 4th option for what amounts to be $8 million/year. He would be successful in the NL.

    We get nothing in return other than a low-level prospect and we can apply half the remaining balance of AJ’s contract to a guy like Damon. We still save money.

  17. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    butterball – what you should spend that money on is some stable walls, and maybe a very light roof? :)

  18. mick January 16th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    I don’t see them not having a 2nd BUIF. Enter Eric Chavez for 2m.

  19. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    if NYYs need a left handed bat and it’s not Chavez, I’d prefer (and I hope somebody isn’t lurking and sends out a hitman) Matsui. I think both can be had for abiut $3.5 mil.

  20. stuckey January 16th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    “Now they need a bat.”

    ——————

    Get him stuckey!!”

    I don’t disagree.

    I DO advise them adding a DH type for no other reason I don’t advocate letting the pitcher hit in AL games, but that said, Yankees are going to score 850+ runs regardless of whomever they sign or trade for.

  21. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    ID

    Wilson Betemit fits your criteria but he will probably be exposed with so much PT.

  22. kd January 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    maybe you start the season with chavez and brandon laird and see what they can do. then you look at carlos lee or somebody like that for a few month rental. like when they got the big puma.

  23. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    lgy – you’d be tough to actually sell me on betemit (much like your disdain for eric chavez examples), but yes a player “like that” would be appropriate.

  24. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    The Yankees will almost certainly be in the top 3 in runs scored but I wouldn’t guarantee 850+ runs.

  25. LathamJoe January 16th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    It amazes me how Cashman has hamstrung the Yankee organization with foolish “opt out” clauses – overpaying for FAs and mediocre talent (like Burnett,Feliciano, and then can’t find “enough” money to obtain a legit DH or lefty reliever. Damon/Matsui or even Abreu would be great for 4 or 5 Mil with some incentives.

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock January 16th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    tomingeorgia January 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    JAP,
    I’m the one who is wasting away in Georgia , not in Mercer County, but even when I lived in Morris County, I could not afford a season ticket plan. I am usually one of your big fans on this blog, but this comment seems out of bounds. No, I don’t buy jerseys, or pay for ten-dollar beers, but I’ve been a fan since about 1954. Hell, the TV I get won’t even carry YES. Should I just send the Yanks a few bucks every week to prove I care? Don’t denigrate my investment in the team.

    Not having seen Montero live, I have believed in your estimation of his ability. Not having seen Pineda, live or on TV, I believe in Compass Rosy’s view of his. Seems about even to me. Have another bag of Tate’s, and lets see what happens. Balance seems to be your mantra, most of the time. Center yourself.
    ///

    Tom in Georgia. You’ve picked this up in stream. I was ostracized for giving up my plan. I would never presume to tell anyone they have to purchase season tickets to “prove” their loyalty, much less move out of the state they live in.

    This is a result of Stoneburner jumped all over me for choosing not the renew. A few piggy-backed that. My response, as per my post to JF, is ironic. You can read back and see for yourself, if you like. I’m all out of Tate’s, but I’ll make a supermarket run.

    As for judging or denigrating anyone’s level of “investment” into being a Yankee fan, I would never do that. And it can’t be measured.

  27. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    pat January 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
    dannyburawa
    Long tossing when its 28 degrees out because you live in the northeast and have to throw a 45 pitch pen the 1st day of ST @MiLBplayerPrblm

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    He’s got a big fastball and is moving up fast….faster that Tommy kahnle. Iwasn’t expecting that. Just needs to cut down on the gopher balls and wild pitches.

  28. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Jerkface -Then they have little faith in Banuelos and Betances hitting the majors, or any of the AAA pitching prospects, which is worrisome.

    I completely and whole-hardheartedly disagree. Why would that limit their need for more pitching? You need 5 starters, Banuelos and Betances are only 2.

    I can envision no better situation for a team like the Yankees to have an entirely homegrown pitching staff, and be allowed to spend whatever you want on the lineup/patching holes.

  29. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Pitching on the FA market is the single most risky asset you can attain in baseball.

  30. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    ^ Oh…. Unless it is a one year deal and you are the Yankees. Forgot that :)

  31. stuckey January 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    “Jerkface -Then they have little faith in Banuelos and Betances hitting the majors, or any of the AAA pitching prospects, which is worrisome.”

    A ace rebuttal to my ‘some posters seem fixated on worrying’ claim, btw.

  32. PittsburghYankeeFan January 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Burnett plus A or AA player = Jason Bay.

    Difference in salary? $2 million.

  33. CountryClub January 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    For those of you that were complaining about Hughes getting a raise, you’ll be happy to know that his deal is non guaranteed.

    That’s very interesting.

  34. tomingeorgia January 16th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    JAP,
    For economic reasons alone, I surely don’t mind giving up a ticket plan. The result on the field from this trade is going to be worth watching, though. MLB.tv is as close as I’m going to get to it.

  35. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    A ace rebuttal to my ‘some posters seem fixated on worrying’ claim, btw.

    I don’t believe it, only responding to your argument as you presented it. The Yankees clearly believe a lottery ticket starting pitcher is worth more to them than a lottery ticket bat, though one with better odds. You are the one who said you think they did it because they needed him as a stabilizer to make the playoffs in the future. I think they would have been fine with Kuroda while waiting for the B’s.

  36. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    CountryClub – I think if Hughes falters out of the gate he’ll be sent to the minors to get better and try to build some value for the trade deadline. I don’t think he has a future on this team in the bullpen as he already makes too much money for that.

  37. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    I can envision no better situation for a team like the Yankees to have an entirely homegrown pitching staff, and be allowed to spend whatever you want on the lineup/patching holes.

    Well thats not gonna happen because CC is here for quite a while :) But they have CC, Hughes, and Nova, with 3 guys in AAA and Banuelos and Betances. I think they made the trade because they are still buying into the ‘pitching is scarce’ mentality that isnt necessarily true right now. And because Pineda throws 98 with control.

  38. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Projecting Pineda as a stabilizing force implies a need for stabilization, Stuckey, sorry.

  39. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    I don’t bet against the Yankees but trying to think like an unbiased observer I think 850 runs would be a tough over/under call to make right now.

  40. Patrick January 16th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    I don’t bet against the Yankees but trying to think like an unbiased observer I think 850 runs would be a tough over/under call to make right now.

    867 runs last year..

    I’m going with push. I think Granderson will have less offensive production, A-rod a bit more and the rest of the team about the same. I also think they will go out and sign a DH that will improve upon what Posada did last year.

    I think a big wild card will be Teixeira. Does he continue his decline or bounce back to being one of the best hitters in the league?

  41. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    jerkface – I don’t think it’s necessarily true that “pitching” in general is scarce, but pitching that doesn’t cost $15m/year certainly is.

    Still having CC under contract and Pineda/Hughes/Nova/Betances/Banuelos all being good is not a… problem… it’s how you get traded players like Montero. Hopefully the player they eventually try to get in return is a 3B, SS, OF or some other useful position… not a bad catcher. :)

  42. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    The odds are obviously greater that not all of those pitchers will work out, but if 3 or 4 of them do… man… the Yankees are going to be spending comparatively little money on their starting 5 for a long time.

  43. J. Alfred Prufrock January 16th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    tomingeorgia January 16th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    JAP,
    For economic reasons alone, I surely don’t mind giving up a ticket plan. The result on the field from this trade is going to be worth watching, though. MLB.tv is as close as I’m going to get to it.
    ///

    tom, local folks can get tickets to any game via Stub Hub. Many have dropped their plans, not because of Montero, but because the Yankees are pricing out their own season ticket holders on resale. I’ll pick and choose the games I attend, instead of taking the hit for the whole season. Besides, if I’m not at the games, I can watch the West Coast late evening games instead of battling my way through the Bronx for the long ride home. There may be a hitter or two out that way worth watching :D.

  44. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    comparatively little money on their starting 5 for a long time.

    For like 1 season while in the bermuda triangle of all the arbitration eligiblity :twisted:

  45. 108 stitches January 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    PittsburghYankeeFan January 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    Burnett plus A or AA player = Jason Bay.

    Difference in salary? $2 million.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I concur. Bay could be the RH – DH for 110-120 games with the rest spread out for who Girardi wants to give a 1/2 day off.

  46. CountryClub January 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    The number of runs the Yanks score isn’t the most important thing. It’s their run differential that will win them games. So maybe the bats takes a small step back. But maybe their staff takes a small step up (I say small because, numbers wise, the staff had a pretty good yr in 2011).

  47. stuckey January 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    “You are the one who said you think they did it because they needed him as a stabilizer to make the playoffs in the future.”

    “Projecting Pineda as a stabilizing force implies a need for stabilization, Stuckey, sorry.”

    No, it doesn’t not.

    It “implies” that Cashman’s job, by definition, is to explore ways to put the best team on the field, this year and in future years. He thinks this may help accomplish that task. You do not. No harm no foul.

    But it doesn’t conveniently “imply” Cashman thinks it HAD to be done to assure the team’s PS future.

  48. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    The odds are obviously greater that not all of those pitchers will work out, but if 3 or 4 of them do… man… the Yankees are going to be spending comparatively little money on their starting 5 for a long time.

    ————–

    What if Cole Hamels hits free agency?

  49. Stoneburner January 16th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    CountryClub – I think if Hughes falters out of the gate he’ll be sent to the minors to get better and try to build some value for the trade deadline. I don’t think he has a future on this team in the bullpen as he already makes too much money for that.

    *******

    Does Hughes still have options to go to the minors?

  50. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    jerkface – It will take 4-5 years for all of those guys to get up to double digits in arbitration… no? Compared to the FA market… and the level of production we are both assuming here… that’s still really cheap.

  51. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    stoneburner – I’ve found articles that explain that Hughes still has 2 options, because of the timing of his call-ups and injuries. I can’t guarantee that’s true… but it sounded legit. It wasn’t hard to find.

  52. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    The number of runs the Yanks score isn’t the most important thing. It’s their run differential that will win them games. So maybe the bats takes a small step back. But maybe their staff takes a small step up (I say small because, numbers wise, the staff had a pretty good yr in 2011).

    The Yankees have crushed run differential the last 2 years, but I think that was more a factor of their defense. If Pineda and Nova improve on their 2011 the run differential can only increase.

  53. CountryClub January 16th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    I’m only asking because I’m curious: how long is Bay signed for? If his deal runs past 2013, the Yanks will have no interest in him. AJ comes off the books in 2 years and they wont add a bad contract that runs longer than that just to get rid of him.

  54. stuckey January 16th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    “I don’t bet against the Yankees but trying to think like an unbiased observer I think 850 runs would be a tough over/under call to make right now.”

    Can’t say I put a tremendous amount of thought into the exact number.

    I’m be more comfortable saying the Yanks will be near the top in runs scored and differential, which is all that really matters.

  55. yankeefeminista January 16th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Hughes has two options left.

  56. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    jerkface – If Nova improves on his 2011, Cashman might literally pee his pants.

  57. CountryClub January 16th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Hughes definitely has at least one option left.

  58. Melk Man January 16th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Cody Ransom has accomplished more than any of us have. So has Darrel Rasner.

    Gee… a person who plays professional baseball at one point accomplishes more than a “regular joe”. Shocking! That’s the defense of Hughes now?

  59. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Now if only we could get AJ Burnett out of the rotation. Doing that would greatly improve my viewing pleasure in 2012.

  60. Melk Man January 16th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    “What if Cole Hamels hits free agency?”

    Sign him and shop Pineda for a young bat.

    Yanks need to be innovative here and realize their players are assets as much as they are members of the team. It’s like their passing of Dan Haren because they might have been worried about what to do with him in the even they got Lee.

  61. Stoneburner January 16th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Sorry if already posted – Campos report from Baseball America:

    Jose Campos, rhp
    Born: July 27, 1992. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 200. Signed: Venezuela, 2009.

    Signed by: Emilio Carrasquel/Patrick Guerrero (Mariners).
    Background: Campos originally tried to join the Cardinals, but the signing never became official because his parents refused to sign the contract. When the Mariners offered slightly more money at $115,000, he signed in January 2009. A cousin of big leaguers Alcides and Kelvim Escobar, Campos led the short-season Northwest League in ERA (2.32) and strikeouts (85) in his 2011 U.S. debut. He went to the Yankees along with Michael Pineda in a January 2012 trade that sent Jesus Montero and Hector Noesi to Seattle.

    Scouting Report: Campos’ fastball operates at 92-95 mph and has been clocked as high as 98. For a youngster, he has advanced feel for pitching off his fastball and locating it. His heater has deception, angle and life. Just a thrower when he first got to Everett last summer, he really grew as a pitcher. Campos’ hard curveball and his changeup show flashes of becoming plus pitches. They both lack consistency but improved as he cleaned up his delivery midway through the season. Earlier in 2011, he was landing stiff and upright, throwing with just his arm. Now he lands on a softer front leg and gets more extension out front. He shows great poise on the mound and fills the strike zone.

    The Future: The Yankees targeted Pineda to upgrade their rotation, and Campos gives them a second potential frontline starter down the road. He’ll advance to low Class A this season.

  62. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    If there is no trade out there that makes sense the Yankees should send AJ to the bullpen, Hughes to AAA taking the role as the 6th starter, and slot Garcia in the 5th spot.

  63. tomingeorgia January 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    JAP.
    Read that book you suggested months ago.

  64. stuckey January 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    “Now if only we could get AJ Burnett out of the rotation. Doing that would greatly improve my viewing pleasure in 2012.”

    Well, I’ve made one wrong prediction before (Gustavo Molina indeed had 6 PA’s as opposed to my predicted 0), but I’m going to predict somehow, someway, Burnett will NOT be in the rotation.

    I think the Yankees are done with the distraction, of constantly wondering when Burnett will fame out every 5 days.

    I think they’ll want to rid themselves of the distraction it has become.

  65. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    ” I’ve found articles that explain that Hughes still has 2 options…”

    Last year he had the option to not show up to camp looking like the Pillsbury Doughboy and he didn’t take it. I hope he chooses the better option this year. #relaxit’sajoke

  66. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    Whoever is ready to go between Hughes/Nova goes 4th/AAA, Whoever is ready between Burnett/Garcia goes 5th/long man. There is plenty of flexibility around their 7 man pitching debacle that doesn’t preclude firesale-ing Burnett.

    Who knows what guys will look like in the spring, given what happened with Hughes last year I say be ready for anything.

  67. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    I disagree with the “ability to play the field doesn’t matter” philosophy in relation to the Yankee DH Slot. You put a guy in the DH Slot that can also play the field and that gives Girardi flexability on-the-field during games, And Cashman in regard to the 25 Man regarding trades. Signing Damon for $2-$3 Mill plus Incentives fits, and the Yanks can pay-the-piper at seasons end. If all the Yanks need issa bat, they can also sign Vlad Guerrero to hack outta there, but as I said, I don’t believe Cashman wants to hamstring himself and Girardi. Seems like every offseason now there are a couple OF’ers that get left out in the cold and sign for relative P-Nuts. Damon and Vlad could be those guys in 2012.

  68. exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    If the Dh spot needs to be held open for the regulars to get a half day of rest, then wouldn’t it be more important to get back-up infielders for the left side, that can actually play the positions reasonably well and not merely be a bat.

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock January 16th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    For the record, I was never comfortable in 2004, even with the 3-0 lead, for lack of left-handed pitching.

    Keeping Pettitte would have prevented that, but he turned into Phil Hughes, who I still have high hopes for.

    For me, 2001 was fraught with so much else, and if you can lose valiantly, we certainly did – down to Rivera’s comment that the loss saved Enrique Wilson’s life. Besides, there were moments in that series that were collectibles.

    For me, and it’s probably not shared by many, the worst was 1981. 1980 was also tough, Reggie up with no outs and the bases loaded, Gossage coming in for Tommy John, etc.

    Tying back to 2004, though, among other things, Montero for 15 years was also inextricably tied up with beating that team, of course.

  70. JustinMacMiller January 16th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    AJ for Soriano on the CUBS and a prospect if the want :) #SORIANO4DH

  71. JustinMacMiller January 16th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    THEY**

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock January 16th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    tomingeorgia January 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    JAP.
    Read that book you suggested months ago.
    ///

    Any benefits?

  73. exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    http://minormatterstrenton.blo.....-long.html

    Great convo with Kevin Long

  74. Pat M. January 16th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    exiledintampa….Welcome to the team…….Torre used that to perfection back in the 90′s….More athletic and versatile…In other words a more complete ballplayer is wanted..

  75. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Soriano for 3 more years? No thanks.

  76. m January 16th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Romine working out with K-Long? Interesting.

  77. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Josh Norris’ 10 minute interview with Kevin Long

    http://minormatterstrenton.blo.....-long.html

  78. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Pix from Robbie Cano’s dominican workout camp

    RobinsonCano Robinson Cano
    He was there too! Lol RT @C_Rodriguez76: @RobinsonCano @fran_cervelli Where’s Doc Tom? :-)

  79. m January 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Moratorium on Sorianos please.

    Need a Molina. :P

  80. Irreverent Discourse January 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    m – I assume that after trading Montero, the next great Yankee project is making damn sure that one of these other catchers “makes it”. :)

  81. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    sorry, no Cano pix yet.

  82. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    I would have thought K-Long would just give a nothing answer but he brutalizes Vazquez

    JN: I brought up plate discipline to bring up Jorge Vazquez, who’s gotten a lot of ink since the Montero trade as a possible in-house candidate as the designated hitter. How do you teach him to lay off the bad stuff, and what kind of big-league impact do you think he could have this year?

    KL: I don’t know. I couldn’t tell you. I know that he had a very good year in Scranton, a lot of home runs, but he hit .250. Two-fifty in Triple-A is probably equivalent to .200 in the big leagues, so does that warrant him getting called up? I’m not so sure. Is he a big swing-and-miss guy? Is his strike-zone discipline not where it needs to be? Those are things that our minor league guys are going to have to evaluate and stay on top of.

    When I get Jorge one of the first things that we’re going to talk about is, ‘Listen, we’ve got to get better about staying in the strike zone.’ He’s getting as much of that in the minor leagues as I was going to give him in the big leagues, and we’ll kind of see how this plays out, but I’m excited to have him in our system and I hope he continues to get better and we’ll see what happens.

  83. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    I’d still do the AJ\NUNEZ – BAY\MURPHY deal.

  84. blake January 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    Translation …..Vasquez will swing and miss the ball too much in the bigs.

  85. Stoneburner January 16th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    For me, 2001 was fraught with so much else, and if you can lose valiantly, we certainly did –

    *********

    Sorry – hard not to be crushed by game 6 blowout and then hopes after Sori hits that homer – in the moment – going for four in a row – to divorce yourself from that vs. speculating that Montero will be what he will be – let alone for 15 years???

    Plus prefer the career we are getting out of another Yankees farmhand – Cano and enjoying that one while we are still in the moment. Sad thing is – you will go through always believing the imaginary stats you would think Montero would put up – without ever knowing – and consider that the most devastating moment for you as a fan in the last 33 or years – wow – but everyone is entitled to their opinions – just glad I do not have your ones.

  86. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    So you’re saying Vasquez wouldn’t GIDP much? :grin:

  87. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Vasquez turns 30 in March. The time usually alloted a busher to “get better” has expired.

  88. blake January 16th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    “So you’re saying Vasquez wouldn’t GIDP much?”

    The Anti-Posada!

  89. Nilsson January 16th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Yanks haven’t had a surer bet like Montero’s bat fast-track through its system in a very long time. So sure of his talent that I’ve gone through most of the 7 stages of grief; I’m at the final stage of acceptance and hope. I think you’re more emotionally invested in him, Prufrock, having seen his games in person. I suspect you’re still in the early stages. Hopefully, it’ll pass through in time.

    I don’t believe this deal is a sign of things to come. The new CBA makes it more difficult to accumulate high-end talent domestically and internationally. If anything, the B’s and the other kids at the lower levels ought to be safe if they perform. The cream of the crop should get legitimate cracks at the big league roster. IMO, the Montero deal is the exception, not the rule.

    Pineda better get the mother of all physical exams. Possibly the latest state-of-the-art in MRI technology. I want all kinds of pictures inside of his right elbow and shoulder. No expenses spared, lol.

  90. Tom in N.J. January 16th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    I would love it if the Yankees could find a Tim Raines-Darryl Srawberry late 90s platoon.

  91. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    If Montero could play decent defense anywhere, Cashman woulda kept him. Cashman sold high before the cat was Completely outta the bag.

  92. Tom in N.J. January 16th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    By watching YES don’t we all contribute to the ‘Yankee profit margin’?

    The higher the ratings, the more YES can charge for ads, right?

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock January 16th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Mr. Nilsson, I appreciate the fan empathy. Agree about the sure bet, needless to say. The signs that this was in play all along were always there (down to Martin/Munson comparison), I just didn’t want to see them, I suppose. Hope you are right about the CBA qualifier, but they do need immediate help in the lineup and I do think Betances is the one to go, since Pineda fills that big righthander with power stuff profile. We’ll see.

  94. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    The “04″ collapse was more of a “Chinese Water Torture”. “01″ Game 7 was just an absolute “Crusher”. That was Not the Swan Song we wanted for Paul O’Neill.

  95. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    I tried to support the Yankees by furthering US-Taiwan Yankee relations, but they severely undercut me. :mad:

  96. exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    I think Long’s answer to the Vazquez ? was very telling about his future in pinstripes. Basically, Short answer: No. Long answer: Hell no. –josh norris

  97. blake January 16th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    A Pena/Jones platoon sounds better and better the more I think about it……if they’ll spend the money for him. They could get 30 homers or more out of that

  98. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    George was great at trading Yankee youth for guys who already had MLB track records. He woulda Never done the Montero deal.

  99. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    jnorris427 Josh Norris
    I think Long’s answer to the Vazquez ? was very telling about his future in pinstripes. Basically, Short answer: No. Long answer: Hell no.

    Apparently, the yanks have had some contact with matsui about the left handed bat opening.

  100. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    They get 30 HR’s outta Damon\Jones also. I like the versatility Damon gives the Yanks offensively, defensively, on the bases, and taking pitches vs the 1 Dimensional Pena.

  101. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    - Beret7 -
    Yea, I was surprised at Long’s bluntness\tone also. Vazquez obviously hassa snow balls chance in Long’s eyes of being on the 25 Man.

  102. blake January 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Damon would be ok as well…..I like the intangibles and leadership etc….I do think the might may have come on his gas tank in the 2nd half last year though.

  103. BD (Boston Dave) January 16th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    might be old news?

    “According to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, there has been “some contact” between the Yankees and free agent Hideki Matsui.”

  104. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    MLB Network at 6 PM will have an indepth analysis of the Montero trade. My guess is that they stole all of the indepth analysis from LoHud. After all, who knows more that them?

  105. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    This could be a situation where Cashman just sits back and waits to see how low the cost of Damon\Pena\Matsui is gonna drop. I believe Derrek Lee is also still out there.

  106. DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    - Beret7 -
    Brian Kenny knows.

  107. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    I’m guessing Matsui would come cheaper than Damon, isn’t chasing 3,000 hits, and rumor has it that he left some type of “collection” in a storage locker in Bayonne and he wants easier access to it.

    FWIW

  108. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Occassionally, Twitter has humor from somebody other than Carig and Bokand. This isn’t them, but still funny as Hell

    TrippingOlney Not Buster Olney
    WHEN WE HEARD THAT THE ROCKIES HAD AN OFFER OUT TO A VETERAN STARTING PITCHER, I DIDN’T KNOW THEY MEANT WORLD WAR I VETERAN. #MOYER

  109. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Kenney knows what?

  110. CompassRosy January 16th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    DONNYBROOK January 16th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    “If Montero could play decent defense anywhere, Cashman woulda kept him. Cashman sold high before the cat was Completely outta the bag.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Speaking of which, Dave Cameron’s take on Montero’s value at catcher vs. DH…
    http://tinyurl.com/77l7jw7

  111. Tom in N.J. January 16th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Miguel Montero is a guy I would love to see the Yankees sign next offseason.

    Lefty bat power and a very good defender.

  112. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    GB-

    If Heathcott stays healthy could he make AA sometime this season ?

  113. m January 16th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Money aside, who you take? Damon or Matsui?

  114. exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Jamie Moyer make me wish I was 10 years younger. Just kidding. :D

  115. blake January 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    “Miguel Montero is a guy I would love to see the Yankees sign next offseason.”

    No imposter Monteros !

  116. DaSaint007 January 16th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Last I heard, Yankees still had Cervelli and Romine for next to free to back up Martin. No need to sign a catcher.

  117. BD (Boston Dave) January 16th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    MLB channel has Dave Cameron from FanGraphs – says Oswalt is a steal at $8-10M

  118. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    Matsui; KURODA needs a buddy on the team.

  119. yanks 27 January 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    ;MLB channel has Dave Cameron from FanGraphs – says Oswalt is a steal at $8-10M;

    If they have the money – BOS should be all over him.

  120. blake January 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    “Money aside, who you take? Damon or Matsui?”

    Damon Id say……he can at least fake it in the outfield if they had to….

  121. JT January 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Would love to see Vlad, but Chavez gives them more versatility.

  122. blake January 16th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Who could Boston dump to.clear money for Oswalt?

  123. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    GB-

    Also. Is Melky mesa a lost cause. He has lot’s of tools and is already at AA.

    Any chance they get that swing under control and cut down on the K’s ?

  124. Patrick January 16th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    The Yankees should SIGN JOHNNY DAMON immediately

  125. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    m-

    Damon for the speed aspect.

  126. William Buckner January 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    JD Drew. Does he make sense for high risk, low $ DH option? Hits ok and good OBP guy.

  127. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Last I heard, Yankees still had Cervelli and Romine for next to free to back up Martin. No need to sign a catcher.

    You misread, Montero is a FA next season. Conveniently enough when Martin is a FA.

  128. Tom in N.J. January 16th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    J.D. Drew?

    Lets sign the last “next Mickey Mantle” to replace the next “next Mickey Mantle”

  129. BD (Boston Dave) January 16th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    blake,

    there’s not much they can move.

    certainly not enough to land Oswalt.

    moving Ortiz just opens up another big hole.

  130. m January 16th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    I go with Matsui for all kinds of reasons.
    Not the least of which is that the t-shirt I own would be relevant again.

  131. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    MTU January 16th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
    GB-

    If Heathcott stays healthy could he make AA sometime this

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I don’t think so, unless he’s in the running for the FSL Triple Crown. He’s lost a lot of developement time. As far as Mesa goes, he could come on this year. Seems that it always takes him at least a year and a half in each league to get it going. He did hit around .280 in the second half, though.

  132. blake January 16th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    The easiest way for Boston to cut payroll is to try and work out a two year deal with Ortiz that would be cheaper than his arbitration number will be.

  133. BD (Boston Dave) January 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    the Red Sox are on extremely thin ice with their depth.

    very good team. one or two injuries away from some real problems.

    they could be posturing to get Oswalt’s price down but if they are not expanding payroll, it’s not gonna happen.

    my solution? expand the damn payroll.

  134. m January 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Drew. Not bad, but talk about a glass player. Would he look less douchey? Less bored? Then maybe.

  135. DaSaint007 January 16th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    MLB Network loves Montero-Pineda trade for Yankees.
    And Kuroda.

  136. BD (Boston Dave) January 16th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    blake,

    no doubt.

    it’s crazy – he wanted 2/24 2/25 (I heard) and they said no way.

    now they better cross their fingers that he’d accept it. I think he may get $16M in arbitration.

  137. BD (Boston Dave) January 16th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    DaSaint,

    you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who doesn’t like the trade for the Yankees outside of this blog.

    I still don’t like it, but I don’t think it’s as bad as some others here do.

  138. DaSaint007 January 16th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    No, actually I didn’t misread. They like Martin and will extend him.

  139. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Matsui could still play in the outfield once a week at least as well as Demon in a short outfield.

  140. Yankee Trader January 16th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    If Matsui plays one day this year it’s 10 years here and10 in Japan. Yankees should arrange a one day return on opening day in NY with Matsui and then let him retire.

  141. blake January 16th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    “my solution? expand the damn payroll.”

    Yes….it would be really dumb form then to have spent all that money last year only to leave so much risk on the roster this year…..hopefully that’s what they do.

  142. exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    If you believe “HOT STOVE” they think we got a steal in Pineda for 5 years of low cost. And Kuroda is more important in 2012 than Pineda.

  143. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    GB-

    Doesn’t Mesa do just about everything well ?

    I wish Long could re-tool that swing a bit.

    Too much movement.

    Needs to cut down on the K’s and just make better contact.

    Has a gun for an arm and can really shag ‘em.

    Fast.

    4 out of 5 tools so far.

    Maybe he is worth putting a little bit more effort into ?

  144. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    MLB network has a talent for stating the obvious.

    Tell us something we don’t know.

    ;)

  145. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    For those of you who didn’t watch that MLB segment, in which the whole panel said the Yanks got the better of the trade, Gammons came on and said that Boston was also hot for Pineda but were told that the cost would be Ellsbury.

    They were also all very bullish on how Kuroda will do for the Yanks, even if you want to add a half point to her ERA.

  146. Jerkface January 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    No, actually I didn’t misread. They like Martin and will extend him.

    Thats just like your opinion, man. Just say its your opinion they will re-sign Martin, no need to act snarky like someone is suggesting to fill a spot that is already taken. Right now they do not have a catcher for 2013 and beyond, and Montero would be a good choice. Better hitter than Martin, equal or better D.

  147. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Matsui?

    Very smart by the Yankees trying to get back in the Japanese market after Prufrock cancelled his season tix :D

  148. Yankee Trader January 16th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    BD-

    RS will have to unload payroll first to prevent paying the LT now at 40% for them for every dollar over 178M. Oswalt will stay in NL with the Cardinals, possibly.

  149. dogface January 16th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Doesn’t Mesa do just about everything well ?

    =========================

    Everything but hit……and walk

  150. dogface January 16th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    RS will have to unload payroll first to prevent paying the LT now at 40% for them for every dollar over 178M. Oswalt will stay in NL with the Cardinals, possibly.

    =======================

    Ownership has already announced they will go beyond cap in 2012. Makes sense given they don’t seem to have much choice.

  151. Yankee Trader January 16th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Why didn’t the Yankees demand lefty James Paxton from Mariners, or is Campos better?

  152. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    DF-

    He’s at AA. Can’t that swing be re-tooled for better contact ?

    He has everything else.

    Maybe he is just another version of Golson ?

    :(

  153. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Gammons: Damon has contacted the Yankees but the interest isn’t reciprocal. Matsui would be a part-time DH/PH and in a sense Nunez will be like the DH because he will end up playing 100-ish games in different positions.

  154. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    And Maxwell.

    Is he a lost cause ?

    He also has some tools.

    Just wondering if there is anyone overlooked before we have to reach down to Williams/Santana level ?

  155. dogface January 16th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    MTU:

    He’s not all that young. 25 years old. Been with the organization since 2006 and nobody’s been able to do anything with his swing.

  156. DaSaint007 January 16th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    JF, snarky isn’t my style. Others here have that locked up. ;-)
    Yes, it’s my opinion of course.

  157. austinmac January 16th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    The Kevin Long interview told me he is not real high on Vasquez. Neither am I.

    Also, he made no mention of working with Teixiera. Wasn’t that a plan for the winter?

  158. Mike Ri January 16th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Gammons said Matsui and Yanks in talks..

  159. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    I think Damon has more left in the tank but Matsui may handle the role better.

  160. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Thome would be such a perfect fit. :(

  161. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    DF-

    OK. Thanks.

    Wonder if we could do a MiLB swap ?

    Our decent AAA pitcher for someone else’s decent AAA OF prospect ?

    I have always though that might be a good idea. It does not seem to be done very often though.

    Example: Phelps or Warren for ?????

    We had a chance to beef things up with Cespedes and Soler too.

  162. dogface January 16th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    And Maxwell.

    Is he a lost cause ?

    He also has some tools
    ============================

    4th OF. Maybe 5th on a good team.

  163. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    MTU, everything except make consistant contact. He’s right there as a center fielder with Gardner and Mason Williams with a much better arm. He’s got Granderson tools from the right side. he just needs to locate the tool bag.

    And, no, people…I didn’t say he was Granderson’s replacement

  164. Yankee Trader January 16th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Matsui posted a .251/.321/.375 line with 12 homers in 583 plate appearances last year. He recovered from a slow start to produce better results in the second half (.753 OPS after July 1st), but the average DH posted a .265/.340/.429 line in 2011, so the positionless Matsui hasn’t drawn much interest. A return to Oakland doesn’t seem likely and no other teams have been publicly linked to the Wasserman Media Group client.

    I just posted that the Yankees should arrange a one day return for Matsui to play in the opener in YS, then allow for him to retire. This will give him 10 years here and 10 years in Japan.

    Thoughts?

  165. raymagnetic January 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Someone should tell Kevin Long that Robbie’s plate discipline was horrible last year. He walked 38 times.

    Those intentional walks don’t count. Besides he was walked intentionally less last year too because teams know he’ll swing at anything. Why walk a guy who’ll swing at junk anyway.

    Anyway, I think Long is very overrated. That’s just me though.

  166. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    GB-

    Why not have him visit the hitting Dr. then. Might pay dividends ? We need ML ready OF’ers.

    Perhaps our MiLB hitting instructors are not up to the challenge ?

    Do they need an upgrade ?

  167. austinmac January 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    MTU,

    Maxwell strikes out more frequently than Vasquez. He is not an answer.

  168. Teary . Francona January 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Id much rather have the Matsui man back than Wilson Betemit. Betemit already showed his true colors in pinstripes once.

  169. Pat M. January 16th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    I think The Yanks will take things real slow with Pineda as they see him as a long term investment……I also think Jesus Montero will become a player much like Carlos Lee, which isn’t a knock at all so save the barbs…….Nick in SF….Marquette covers Clippers push….

  170. austinmac January 16th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    I would still like Matsui at bat in an important situation. He would be a good call, bit they still need an infielder unless they intend to use Laird.

  171. Yankee Trader January 16th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Why not turnthe 6’4″ Justin Maxwell, since he has a good arm into a pitcher. :)

  172. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Mac-

    You’re a lawyer.

    Has a final verdict on Colin Curtis been reached ?

    Career MiLB ?

    At one point I thought he showed us some talent.

    Hits from the left side.

  173. BD (Boston Dave) January 16th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Pat M,

    hope you’re watching your back in here after that comment ;)

    of course Carlos Lee was deemed worthy of a huge contract…

  174. dogface January 16th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Anyway, I think Long is very overrated. That’s just me though

    ================================

    I think the position is more overrated than Long is. For the most part they aren’t really going to have much impact (see also: pitching coach). If he can impact the results of one everyday player, he’s probably had a good day. No denying that Long helped Granderson. Not much to suggest he’s done much for anyone else. Getting Granderson going alone is enough to have earned his keep, IMO.

    That said, I would never leave him or any other hitting coach alone with Cano. He’s not going to walk a lot and that’s not going to change. Just the way it is. But he’ll rake, rake, and rake some more. Stay away from him and let him go.

  175. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Nobody outside of sherman Obando has worked with Melky Table in 3 years…..at least somebody who can teach. Still hoping NT resigns Cody Johnson and works with him. Unreal left handed power, but, until late in the season at Tampa, nobody ever got him to move the knob of the bat off of his back hip.

  176. Yankee Trader January 16th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    If the Yankees could arrange for Burnett to go to Houston for Carlos Lee, that might work to get him for DH for the one year left on his 18.5M contract.

  177. m January 16th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Do the Yankees do one day contracts for retirement purposes? If so they need to do one for Matsui if and when he retires.

  178. Tom in N.J. January 16th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Carlos Lee has had a nice career for himself: 350 home runs, 112 million bucks in the bank. There’s no shame in that.

  179. LGY January 16th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Carlos Lee of the career .286/.339/.491 115 OPS+?

    For shame Pat M. For shame.

  180. exiledintampa January 16th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    I don’t know what I think yet about Matsui yet as a DH but I do think his bat plays better in YS than in Oakland. He wouldn’t be a bad option till the trade deadline. There’s always a Hunter Pence or a Michael Bourne type some team is looking to unload.

  181. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    Thanks GB.

    Just wondering if we have “overlooked” solutions at the higher levels.

    I think Almonte had a breakout year too but I don’t know much about him.

  182. Teary . Francona January 16th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Its a great honor to know I model myself after MLK Jr.

  183. Pat M. January 16th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Matsui’s bat speed improved in the second half last season and I’ve always liked him very much, however he’s a one trick pony….Who backs up Texeria, Swisher with Gardner going to right and Jones to left ??

  184. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
    GB-

    Why not have him visit the hitting Dr. then. Might pay dividends ? We need ML ready OF’ers.

    Perhaps our MiLB hitting instructors are not up to the challenge ?

    Do they need an upgrade ?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    They brought Rick Down back as the organizational hitting coach. He has a lot of guys to work with and on.

  185. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Which young arm is going to have the biggest impact on his new team:

    Billy Ripken: Michael Pineda.

  186. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    GB-

    Is he any good ?

    Don’t know a thing about him.

    What’s your opinion on him, if any ?

  187. MTU January 16th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    New thread —>

  188. Yankee Trader January 16th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    If the Yankees can’t trade Burnett for another bad contract-a hitter, than Casey Kotchman might be the best overall bet to DH and play 1st on occasion, after a good year for the Rays.

  189. djsunyc January 16th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    when i look at hughes, i see the heir apparent to mariano. he has a different disposition on the mound as a reliever. he just goes out and attacks you. i’m hoping the yankees see that also when mariano finally decides to hang it up…

  190. kd January 16th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    why not just let brandon laird be the backup for the corners and see if the kid has anything to offer?

    saves you 2 to 3 million over damon and matsui and might post comparable numbers. then you have that much more room to take on money at the trading deadline. also, if he excels, then you’ve got a good trading chip

  191. Nick in SF January 16th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    :arrow:

  192. GreenBeret7 January 16th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Down was the hitting coach in NY twice…93-95 and 2002-2003, around Chris Chambliss and Donnie Mattingly. He worked with Mattingly to turn him from a slap hitter to a power hitter.

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