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Waiting for news to be official, plus notes and links

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 19, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Still no announcement on the Hiroki Kuroda or Michael Pineda moves, and the delay seems to be geographical as much as anything. Kuroda is still in Japan, new Yankees prospect Jose Campos is still in Venezuela and Jesus Montero’s physical is being delayed because of visa issues.

Some other notes and links…

• The New York Post has Dan Martin down in Tampa, and he caught up with Larry Rothschild to ask about the pitching additions. Safe to say Rothschild seems happy about each addition.

• Yesterday, Derek Jeter opened his charity golf tournament and received the Lou Gehrig Memorial Award. “Any award named after Lou Gehrig, it probably means a lot more to me than some other players,” Jeter said.

• Baseball America has video of Yoenis Cespedes hitting his first winter league home run. I still can’t see the Yankees spending big to sign him, but there’s still plenty of interest in him.

• Remember Romulo Sanchez? He signed a minor league deal with the Rays after spending a season in Japan.

• Roger Waters has announced that he’ll be performing at Yankee Stadium on July 6. Anyone want to cover a game in Boston for me that night?

Finally, the Fausto Carmona story… Police in the Dominican Republic say he’s been using a fake name is actually 31 years old, not 28. So, there’s that.

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187 Responses to “Waiting for news to be official, plus notes and links”

  1. Nilsson January 19th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    A state of emergency declared in Washington State. 200,000 lose power in Seattle and airport disrupted. Didn’t realize the baseball gods had this sort of influence.

  2. Nick in SF January 19th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    I think this so-called state of emergency is more about the California Golden Bears leading the Washington Huskies in the 2nd half of their Pac-12 matchup.

  3. stuckey January 19th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    “A state of emergency declared in Washington State. 200,000 lose power in Seattle and airport disrupted. Didn’t realize the baseball gods had this sort of influence.”

    They must really not want the Yankees to get Pineda.

  4. Nilsson January 19th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    In all seriousness, let’s hope the folks in the Pacific Northwest are doing okay. Ice storms really do suck.

  5. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    “They must really not want the Yankees to get Pineda.”

    “In all seriousness, let’s hope the folks in the Pacific Northwest are doing okay. Ice storms really do suck.”

    Bless them all.

  6. Nick in SF January 19th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    We certainly wish them well, but it’s is true that the basketball game on the UW campus seems to be unaffected.

    If this is really by the airport, that’s halfway down to Tacoma. The UW campus is close to a pretty swank neighborhood, maybe they have their own grid.

  7. RMS January 19th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Hope everything turns out okay.

  8. stuckey January 19th, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Hmmm, slow night, let’s take care of that.

    If during the last full AAA season, you could trade Jesus Montero for:

    1.) Derek Jeter
    2.) Phil Hughes
    3.) Michael Pineda

    Which (if any) would you?

    And/or:

    Would you be okay with Brian Cashman marrying your sister?

  9. Jerkface January 19th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    If during the last full AAA season, you could trade Jesus Montero for:

    1.) Derek Jeter
    2.) Phil Hughes
    3.) Michael Pineda

    If you mean while the listed players were in their last AAA season

    1. Yes
    2. No
    3. No

  10. PhiltheThrill January 19th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    None of them.

  11. Yank1 January 19th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    “They must really not want the Yankees to get Pineda.”

    I’d be fine with that as well.

  12. blake January 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Agree with JF. Yes on Jeter, no on the other two. I don’t have a sister

  13. Benny Blanco January 19th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    I hate to be the voice of reality but pineda is coming whether you like it or not!!! :)

  14. Jerkface January 19th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    None of them.

    You wouldn’t trade Jesus for Jeter????????? Jeter was a beast hitter for a long time at a premium position.

  15. blake January 19th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
    Most improved MLB Clubs this off-season: 1. Angels 2. Marlins 3. Reds 4. Yankees 5. Diamondbacks
    2 minutes ago

  16. Bret The Hitman January 19th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Alex Rodriguez on Michael Pineda:

    Rodriguez recalled his one matchup with Pineda, saying “it wasn’t a lot of fun.”

    “He has 3-plus pitches and throws up in the mid 90s, and again he’s quite a figure out there, he’s 6-7 and has a long reach and I’m glad I don’t have to face him anymore,” he added.

  17. Stoneburner January 19th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Rodriguez recalled his one matchup with Pineda, saying “it wasn’t a lot of fun.”

    “He has 3-plus pitches and throws up in the mid 90s, and again he’s quite a figure out there, he’s 6-7 and has a long reach and I’m glad I don’t have to face him anymore,” he added.

  18. Stoneburner January 19th, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    blake January 19th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
    JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
    Most improved MLB Clubs this off-season: 1. Angels 2. Marlins 3. Reds 4. Yankees 5. Diamondbacks
    2 minutes ago

    *********

    So in Bowden’s opinion 2012 team as constructed w/ Pineda and Kuroda is better than/improvement over one w/ Montero and Noesi. Interesting this Jim Bowden and his opinions. . . . .

  19. randy l. January 19th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    “He has 3-plus pitches and throws up in the mid 90s, and again he’s quite a figure out there, he’s 6-7 and has a long reach and I’m glad I don’t have to face him anymore,” he added.”

    no wonder alex has so much trouble hitting if he thinks pineda has a plus change up.

  20. blake January 19th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    If Alex read Lohud then he’d know that Pineda only has 2 plus pitches and is destined for the bullpen ;)

  21. Nick in SF January 19th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Maybe Bowden is going on the addition of Kuroda and Montero to the team, since the trade isn’t official yet. :grin:

  22. Stoneburner January 19th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    randy l. January 19th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
    “He has 3-plus pitches and throws up in the mid 90s, and again he’s quite a figure out there, he’s 6-7 and has a long reach and I’m glad I don’t have to face him anymore,” he added.”

    no wonder alex has so much trouble hitting if he thinks pineda has a plus change up.

    ********

    First, your assumption is that the three pitches Alex saw included a change up. Second – I think at this point you defer to guy that has hit over 600 career HRs. . . .

  23. blake January 19th, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    Bowden really likes Pineda….so probably why he feels that way

  24. LGY January 19th, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    At times Pineda’s heater has a lot of movement of it. It’s possible Alex thinks he throws two kinds of fastballs.

  25. Jerkface January 19th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Why does anyone think A-rod would say anything negative about someone the Yankees just acquired?

  26. Stoneburner January 19th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    By the time this trade finally goes through – David Adams will have finally healed and Seattle will go back on the deal insisting Adams be a part of it. The trade will then come full circle.

  27. Nick in SF January 19th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    True Yankees say nice things about their teammates.

  28. Stoneburner January 19th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Nick in SF January 19th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
    True Yankees say nice things about their teammates.

    ********

    Unless it is Chad Curtis – and then they just get rid of you.

  29. NYYanksFan January 19th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Plesac said Pineda’s slider has 2 kinds of movement and can look like a split sometimes.

  30. Stoneburner January 19th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Jerkface January 19th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
    Why does anyone think A-rod would say anything negative about someone the Yankees just acquired?

    ********

    Does not mean what he says is false. . . . .

  31. jacksquat January 19th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    His slider has different looks also, he may have thought one was a curve.

  32. Stoneburner January 19th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    NYYanksFan January 19th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    Plesac said Pineda’s slider has 2 kinds of movement and can look like a split sometimes.

    ********

    All that matters is what the hitter thinks – if the hitter believes and sees three different pitches – so be it. More important than any stat tech internet geek charting pitches. . . .

  33. Bret The Hitman January 19th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Video of Pineda where you can clearly see fastball, slider, changeup.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......8;c_id=mlb

  34. lounge lizard January 19th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Alex’s line against Pineda:

    .500/.667/1.167

    Did have one K.

  35. LGY January 19th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Video of Pineda where you can clearly see fastball, slider, changeup.

    —————-

    Where did you see a changeup in that video?

  36. LGY January 19th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    PitchFX says Pineda threw 1 changeup against the Yankees.

    Wonder who he used it against.

  37. m January 19th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    If Alex read Lohud then he’d know that Pineda only has 2 plus pitches and is destined for the bullpen
    ////////////////////

    Or that he’ll have TJS by the end of the season or that he will be out of baseball by the time he’s 28.

  38. LGY January 19th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Yankees pitching coach happy to have Pineda, Kuroda

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....z1jyAt4GY3

  39. jacksquat January 19th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    lounge lizard January 19th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    Alex’s line against Pineda:

    .500/.667/1.167

    Did have one K.

    .500/.667/.500 (1.167 is the ops)

    1 for 2 (single) with a walk and a k.

  40. PhiltheThrill January 19th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Jerkface,

    I like Montero’s bat better, and I think C is a good place to have offense, too.

  41. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    “Yankees pitching coach happy to have Pineda, Kuroda”

    I wonder if Rothschild would have given Montero a chance behind the plate if he was the manager, or if he would have imposed a stilted view of catching like the other guy.

  42. lounge lizard January 19th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Yes, that’s what I meant, thank you for clarifying.

  43. Triple Short of a Cycle January 19th, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    How have the Reds improved more then the Yankees. They signed Madson but lost Cordero so that is a wash for the most part and they got Latos. Pineda + Kuroda > Latos

  44. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees have improved unless A-Rod and Tex return to their prior form.

  45. PhiltheThrill January 20th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Yup, we need Tex and ARod to have big seasons.

  46. Nilsson January 20th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Rich in NJ January 19th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees have improved unless A-Rod and Tex return to their prior form.

    —————————————————————————

    I think Alex will perform if he avoids major injuries.

    Tex is a bigger wild card. And it’s more technical with him. No doubt the adjustment to his left-handed swing has taken on more importance now.

  47. stuckey January 20th, 2012 at 12:19 am

    “Yup, we need Tex and ARod to have big post seasons.”

    Fixed.

  48. m January 20th, 2012 at 12:24 am

    So…that Carmona story is pretty wild, huh?

  49. Best To Ever Do It January 20th, 2012 at 12:26 am

    m January 20th, 2012 at 12:24 am

    So…that Carmona story is pretty wild, huh?
    ———————————-

    Very wild but common as crazy as that sounds

  50. Rich in NJ January 20th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    I doubt that Carmona is an isolated case.

  51. CompassRosy January 20th, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Nilsson January 19th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
    In all seriousness, let’s hope the folks in the Pacific Northwest are doing okay. Ice storms really do suck.
    ===============

    Thanks, Nilsson. You may have missed it in the prior thread.
    We’re hanging in there, treading ice, but hanging in…

    http://tinyurl.com/7xcue4h

  52. Migs January 20th, 2012 at 12:46 am

    Going back to that pineda video:

    1) From what I have read his fastball is pretty straight. However, he does seem to pitch “downhill” however, and his fastball looks heavy. It may have some extra life on it when it reaches the plate. From what I understand, in the minors he had a high gb/fb rate. And in the last 3 months of the season, his gb/fb rate dramatically improved. Most of this is according to fangraphs. I personally think he will have a better gb/fb ration next year and probably improve upon it some as he develops.

    2) I don’t believe there were any change-ups in this video, just some sliders that hung and backed up a bit. They were mistakes and at least one could have been crushed. However, his effective sliders came in at 86 I believe, where these came in at 82…so it is possible it is a circle change of some sort…and considering he really doesnt have much control of it yet, it would make sense that these were hung.

    3) His slider does have different movement to it from what I understand. In this video, there are times it looks as if it could be a splitter. Not sure if these are sliders that are supposed to sink north to south more…or just pitches he didn’t have true command of. Im going to say that he can control his sliders and that he can use either a more traditional slider that sinks down and in to lefties (shown in the video as well) and a more north and south slider that looks like a splitter.

    4) He apparently also has a sinker (according to fangraphs, used even less than his change)…It looks like he may have thrown the sinker it on that double play ball. Looking at it again, it sinks and goes slightly away from the left handed batter, and was clocked at 93. His other fastballs were clocked at 96, except for the first inning when it was clocked at 94. According to some posts I read from Mariners fans, the first 3 innings his fastball is usually a tick or 2 lower than later on in the game. It is possible this double play pitch could just be a 93mph fastball that happened to look as if it tailed away a bit with a little sink.

    5) There is an issue I believe I noticed. On his mistake pitches, his arm angle was slightly higher than his more successful pitches. Look at the first few pitches in the video. He also seems to be a lot of arm in his delivery. Even if he gets tommy john, with the success of it today, he can still be a really successful pitcher. Im not a scout or a doctor, so take these comments however you want.

  53. DSJ January 20th, 2012 at 12:46 am

    Happiest person in the country tonight is Obama after seeing that putrid cesspool pool of lunatic rightie freakoids. Carry on.

  54. Migs January 20th, 2012 at 12:48 am

    In case no one noticed, here is the video I was watching: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......8;c_id=mlb

    It was posted on here earlier by Bret the Hitman.

  55. Jerkface January 20th, 2012 at 1:03 am

    From what I understand, in the minors he had a high gb/fb rate.

    He had a very high fly ball rate in the minors.

  56. Nick in SF January 20th, 2012 at 1:03 am

    Cesspool pool? The dumbing down of LoHud continues.

  57. Bo knows January 20th, 2012 at 1:14 am

    My favorite was “Hank Stein was torked”.

    Remedial English dropouts.

  58. Giuseppe Franco January 20th, 2012 at 1:15 am

    WCDB was banned for a reason.

    Buzz off, loser.

  59. NYYanksFan January 20th, 2012 at 1:15 am

    Ryan Braun has slapped a cease and desist on this Mets site. Help them out so they don’t lose their shirts. http://www.metsonline.com/

  60. Migs January 20th, 2012 at 1:17 am

    jerkface,

    do you happen to have the gb/fb% from the minors? i thought i read his gb rate was better in the minors, but i could be wrong…i looked tried to quickly find his minor gb rate, but was unsuccessful.

  61. Ghostwriter January 20th, 2012 at 1:23 am

    Giuseppe Franco January 20th, 2012 at 1:15 am

    WCDB was banned for a reason.

    Buzz off, loser.
    ======================

    Now, now, be nice. The poor little creep has no life. Why else would he keep coming back where he isn’t wanted?

  62. Vineyard Yankee January 20th, 2012 at 1:31 am

    Pot – Kettle – Black.

    LMAO ! !

  63. Pat M. January 20th, 2012 at 1:38 am

    Seems like the Yanks have been keeping tabs on the activity at a very fancy & high profile gym in Carson Ca. There’s someone there of interst …..

  64. PhiltheThrill January 20th, 2012 at 1:46 am

    Phil Hughes?

  65. Nick in SF January 20th, 2012 at 1:55 am

    Phil Hughes asks his driver to avoid passing through Carson.

  66. CompassRosy January 20th, 2012 at 1:57 am

    Thought I’d share a couple of links that may interest some of you – from a Seattle blogger with a very unique writing style and an interesting perspective on Michael Pineda.

    (I’ll post them one at a time, as I seem to remember an issue with more than one link to a post)

    this one speaks to Michael’s now “infamous” second half…

    http://tinyurl.com/8abfm5d

  67. CompassRosy January 20th, 2012 at 1:57 am

    and this one talks about his lefty splits and some details on his “unique” slider…

    http://tinyurl.com/7e3cxd3

  68. kd January 20th, 2012 at 2:21 am

    pat m always has the best rumors.

    no only if there was internet blue label to loosen his lips

  69. Bret The Hitman January 20th, 2012 at 2:42 am

    A very fancy and high profile gym outside Compton? South Central Los Angeles?

  70. Jerkface January 20th, 2012 at 2:46 am

    do you happen to have the gb/fb% from the minors? i thought i read his gb rate was better in the minors, but i could be wrong…i looked tried to quickly find his minor gb rate, but was unsuccessful.

    http://mlsplits.drivelinebaseball.com/mlsplits

    Here is a good website with minor league splits. He has a 40+% flyball rate in the minors for the seasons listed there .

  71. Jerkface January 20th, 2012 at 2:49 am

    Woops, I was looking at the league averages! He does have very good ground ball rates in the minors. Which is good. Though Phil Hughes had the same phenomena where his minor league rates were good but his major league rates were not good. Something where their stuff over powers minor league hitters but major league hitters can get more lift.

    Pineda’s stuff is way better than Hughes though so that bodes really well for him cutting down the flyballs. If he can keep his fastball down in the zone it should be enough to overpower hitters. His change and slider got nice ground balls because of the weak contact, so most of his flyball rate came from his fastball last year.

  72. Migs January 20th, 2012 at 3:21 am

    jerkface,

    this is what i thought. thanks for the website. I am no scout, but I do believe in the small sample I have seen of him, that he can have a successful gb rate. His fastball sinks down in the zone. It seems like it has a little extra life on it and is heavy. He pitches more downhill even with his arm angle not really being over the top. His slider can also act as a splitter. When he is on, I dont see why he should have such an outrageous flyball rate. But someone here might know better than i.

    If you look at his last 3 months, His groundball rate when from like 26-30% to over 40%.

    He has to develop either a sinking fastball that tails away from lefties, or a change up that sinks in the zone (kind of like CCs).

    He has 2 plus pitches. I disagree with others that say he will be a RP. If this happens, it will be because of injury. Last season, the M’s didnt think his slider would be developed enough to win the starting job. They were wrong. Assuming he works hard, he should be able to develop an average change-up over the next 2 seasons…His upside is truly ace-like. He should be a number 2 by the age of 25 in my opinion. But again, I’m no scout.

    I also dont have a big issue with the trade like many on here.

  73. Bret The Hitman January 20th, 2012 at 3:23 am

    It’s Phil Hughes who works out at Athletes Performance, a fitness chain with a sports complex in Carson, CA. So the Yankees are keeping tabs on his progress? I’m not sure if that means they’re going to stick with him and give him a shot in 2012. It’s probably just protocol.

  74. lounge lizard January 20th, 2012 at 3:43 am

    Thanks for the links CompassRosy. I noted the following passage:

    “As for the ‘Shed Pineda While You Still Can’ movement in Seattle, c’mon. There’s a party going on. Grab a dixie cup fulla fruit punch and relax.” (blog entry dated 12/23/11)

    So a significant portion of the Mariners’ interested fanbase was pushing the notion of getting something for Pineda before his value would drop. And the Yankees show up with Montero. Charming.

  75. Jerkface January 20th, 2012 at 3:46 am

    Oh no Spaceman Lee says steroids were being taken in the 80s! My world is turned upside down!

    http://deadspin.com/5877555/th.....evangelist

    High Times: Let’s talk for a moment about the drugs that are sanctioned—indeed, virtually mandatory—in organized sports, such as novocaine, cortisone, the steroids—

    Lee: It’s all rotgut. Your kidneys produce enough cortisone. As far as the management is concerned, the short-term goals outweigh the long-term ones. Novocaine and steroids, especially. It’s ironic that Bowie Kuhn gets upset about pot when, every day, ballplayers are being shot up with drugs that actually destroy players’ systems. He’s thinking short-term. He’s not taking into consideration, for instance, that steroids are congenital and that the people who take them are passing on heart failure to their offspring that will make them die at a much earlier age because of inability to absorb cholesterol. He’s thinking, “This guy is more of a burden, costs more on society in the long run based on our insurance …” It’s strange, isn’t it?

  76. Mike Ri January 20th, 2012 at 6:45 am

    Newsday’s Ken Davidoff suggests Raul Ibanez might be the best DH option for the Yankees, assuming Johnny Damon signs with a team that can offer more plate appearances.

  77. blake January 20th, 2012 at 6:53 am

    Jon Daniels on radio yesterday:

    “the posting fee is real and its one reason we wanted to do a 6 year deal to spread that money out”

    Also said that they are unlikely to sign Prince as they are already at a record payroll level fir their organization.

  78. Ys Guy January 20th, 2012 at 6:58 am

    ibanez is 40 and there was a pretty precipitous drop-off in his production last year. i’m not big on either guy, but i’d take damon i guess. both are excellent guys.

  79. Ys Guy January 20th, 2012 at 7:07 am

    i meant i’m not that big on adding either guy. both are excellent teammates.

  80. jacksquat January 20th, 2012 at 7:10 am

    lounge lizard January 20th, 2012 at 3:43 am
    Thanks for the links CompassRosy. I noted the following passage:

    “As for the ‘Shed Pineda While You Still Can’ movement in Seattle, c’mon. There’s a party going on. Grab a dixie cup fulla fruit punch and relax.” (blog entry dated 12/23/11)

    So a significant portion of the Mariners’ interested fanbase was pushing the notion of getting something for Pineda before his value would drop. And the Yankees show up with Montero. Charming.

    Fans that wanted to dump him were likely the overreaction types only looking at his ERA in the second half. Where have we seen that before?

  81. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Id explore the trade market to its fullest …and then if nothing materializes see who is left of the Damons and Ibanez’s

  82. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:16 am

    Blake-

    My guess is that is exactly what they are doing.

    ;)

  83. Villa Nova-Ya January 20th, 2012 at 7:16 am

    Not only that, but how do you know it was a “significant portion?”

    People are going to look for whatever information feeds their own bias. I guess that’s human nature.

  84. PacoDooley January 20th, 2012 at 7:17 am

    The last pitcher the Yankees had that had the sort of success that Pineda had at his age was Andy Pettitte. People seem to forget that he is young for a dominant starter in MLB. All prospects have risk. One with a year’s worth of success at the major league level is at least somewhat proven. Montero is still just a prospect (regardless of what a few ABs in NY showed). He could be the next Justin Smoak or Wily Mo Peña or any number of other hyped minor league players that never quite lived up to expectations. Yankees fans are behaving like they traded Miguel Cabrera for a middle reliever, where they actually traded an excellent minor league DH for an established 22 year old major league pitcher that has #1 starter potential.

  85. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:17 am

    That, and searching for a taker for Mr. Burnett.

    ;)

  86. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:19 am

    MTU,
    Any chance AJ Burnett’s real name isn’t AJ Burnett? And that hrs really 42?

  87. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:19 am

    It’s pretty obvious that the Pineda vs. Montero debate will stretch on into Infinity.

    Mathematically speaking, of course.

    :)

  88. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Blake-

    From a trade perspective and for historical purposes I think his real name Is Alan James Bustnett.

    Either that or Edwin Jackson the 2nd.

    His age is under investigation by the local authorities.

    TBD.

    :)

  89. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:23 am

    I think most rational fans understand that its pretty normal for a rookie pitcher with an innings jump to fall off in the 2nd half if their first big league season…

    I think where the issue is…..at least for me….is that if we are trading Montero then I would have liked more certainty in the return…..I love the upside….would have liked less risk if Im dealing Montero. We wont know if this was a good deal or not for a couple of years most likely.

  90. Ys Guy January 20th, 2012 at 7:24 am

    hahahaha! a blog post! nice! well that proves that the Mariner’s Nation (or is it a coffee-klatch?) wanted him thrown out with the dirty laundry!

    ian kennedy anyone?

  91. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:26 am

    “I think where the issue is…..at least for me….is that if we are trading Montero then I would have liked more certainty in the return…..I love the upside….would have liked less risk if Im dealing Montero. We wont know if this was a good deal or not for a couple of years most likely.”

    Blake, I agree. But The King, Clayton, etc. just were not available.

    I like what Rothschild had to say. It’s encouraging.

    :)

  92. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:27 am

    MTU,

    That’s cold man….but I think a more appropriate term would be Edwin Jackson may be AJ Burnett the 2nd? What you think of my AJ for Hafner idea? Everyone else hates it ;) it would save the Yanks some money though and Hafner hit over .300 and had a .400 OBP against RHP last year. He’s hurt all the time sure…..but be could useful IMO.

  93. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Blake-

    I’d trade AJ for a pillow full of bird feathers so yeah.

    :)

  94. PacoDooley January 20th, 2012 at 7:29 am

    blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:19 am
    MTU,
    Any chance AJ Burnett’s real name isn’t AJ Burnett? And that hrs really 42?
    ———————————

    I heard a rumor that his real name is Enrique Sanchez and he is actually 47. (would probably be funnier to claim that he is actually something like 14 years old given his behavior!). They are looking into this and will possibly void his contract.

    MLB is apparently going to award the Yankees 10 more wins for last season in light of this finding, and they will be named the World Series co-Champions for 2011.

  95. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:29 am

    But Blake. You and I both know he is probably goin’ nowhere.

    :(

  96. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 7:29 am

    Good morning.

    Here’s the latest on a lefty pitcher from Cuba on the Yankees radar from bleacherreport.com:

    Gerardo Concepcion is no stranger to baseball. He was awarded Rookie of the Year for the 2010-11 season within the Cuban Serie Nacional, which is Cuba’s main amateur league.

    The 18-year-old’s stats are impressive, accordingly, with a 3.36 ERA in 21 games, with a record of 10-3. He’s started 16 times with Industriales de la Habana.

    According to Concepcion’s agent, Jaime Torres, the young and talented player is now considered a free agent and able to talk to any major league team he wishes.

    Not surprisingly, the team seemingly most interested in Concepcion? The New York Yankees.

    Concepcion has officially declared his residency within Mexico as of Tuesday, after defecting from Cuba last summer during a tournament. He is currently training in the Dominican Republic, and is scheduled to train at the Yankees’ camp in the same area on Thursday.

  97. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:30 am

    Because that would make too much sense.

    ;)

  98. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:32 am

    I will say this though……I wouldn’t have traded Montero at all really….but given that it seems now that he was always destined to be used to aquire a pitcher……the deal they made is infinitely better than some of the others he’s been linked to in the past. Value for value its fair…..and its sounds like Campos could take a giant leap up the rankings if he performs at Charleston this year.

    If Cashman can swing a deal for a young bat Ill understand the move a lot better.

  99. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:33 am

    YT-

    If that young guy makes a stopover in sunny Mexico and he’s a lefty we know the pedigree and he will HAVE to turn out good.

    His new found buddy Manny Banuelos says so and even vouches for his amigo.

    :)

  100. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Blake-

    I don’t like Campos for Noesi.

    Why ?

    Because I think Noesi had the potential to be really good. A better version of Nova.

    :(

  101. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Looks like the Pineda/Montero deal is still not official until the fat lady sings, or until Montero and Campos get to the states and have their physicals.

    Or until Randy has enough info to prove that Canpos and Montero are not their real names! :)

  102. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:36 am

    YT-

    The Yankees are at the mercy of the baseball Gods.

    And some really effed up customs people.

    ;)

  103. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:37 am

    I think Cashman is developing a pitching complex…..get the Lefty …..but pick up Soler on your way home please.

  104. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:37 am

    YT-

    And by the way, Has Hugo Chavez approved this deal ?

    After all, it is to those Yankee dogs to the Norte.

    ;)

  105. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:39 am

    Blake-

    Let’s hope Cashman likes seafood and wants to get some Filet of Soler on the way.

    Is he hungry enough ?

    :)

  106. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:42 am

    MTU,

    I love Noesi…..think he’s got a chance to be really good as well….but there probably wasn’t going to be room for him this year and he’s 25 already. They got a really high upside guy and allowed Noesi to move on to a place where he could pitch now…….Noesi will surprise some.folks in Seattle this year.

  107. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    Blake-

    Maybe they would have been wiser to keep him and his potential and give him a shot in Ro in place of ???

    Know what I mean Vern ?

    ;)

  108. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:45 am

    “Or until Randy has enough info to prove that Canpos and Montero are not their real names!”

    You know Randy is on the case! He’s probably called MLB and claimed that Montero’s real name is Miguel Cabrera and that he shouldn’t be allowed to leave the country!

  109. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 7:47 am

    Blake-

    Wasn’t privvy to the Travis Hafner discussions, but what was the outcome of the strained tendon in his right foot that put him on the disabled list last season. I couldn’t find that he had surgery. This appears to be a chronic problem.

    Otherwise based on last years 325 ABs 13 homers and .302 BA from left side, he’d be a good fit at DH.

  110. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:48 am

    If anyone can stop this trade it’s Randy.

    I have every confidence.

    Me. I’d recruit Luis. He lives there and is a double-agent.

    ;)

  111. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 7:48 am

    *privy*

  112. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:49 am

    MTU,

    Sure if they weren’t going to make this deal……actually I would have preferred to not make the deal…..sign Kuroda give Noesi a shot at the rotation ……however when they decided to do they trade it makes sense to have included him…..there just isn’t room for everyone. They have a bigtime logjam at AAA that’s just going to get worse when Manny and Betances are ready. My guess is cash is exploring what he can get for some of this excess..
    ..

  113. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Luis knows the local natives.

    He told me so.

    He kidnaps Montero and takes him up the Orinoco to Angel Falls where he is help prisoner in a batting cage.

    Although, that is dangerous because no batting cage has been known to be able to hold him when he is swinging away.

    :(

  114. Villa Nova-Ya January 20th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    You have to look at this from the Seattle point of view, too, though. Montero has spent one month (plus the playoffs) in the big leagues. He is still a question mark to all but the most avid Montero followers. Not a big question mark, mind you, but they already had Smoak disappoint them last year, and he was taken over Montero in the first place. I mean, there’s always uncertainty when dealing with young players.

  115. 108 stitches January 20th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:34 am
    Blake-

    I don’t like Campos for Noesi.

    Why ?

    Because I think Noesi had the potential to be really good. A better version of Nova.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    While you make a valid point with Noesi, he still would have been blocked by the so-called pitcher that wears No. 34.
    By the time Juan Campos is major league ready, all of Burnett, Garcia, and Kuroda will be gone.

  116. blake January 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am

    Trader,

    I don’t know the specifics….I just know he’s hurt all the time. I proposed AJ + 8 million for Hafner. Hafner makes 13 million next year so the Yankees kicking in 8 would essentially save then 12 million over the next two seasons and allow Cleveland to have AJ for what amounts to a 2/12 contract to replace Carmona or give then depth. The main goal would be moving AJ….but I think Hafner coukd be useful if they coukd keep him healthy enough…..he still hits RHP well and gets on base well when he can play……if he gets hurt you still cit some payroll. File it in the never happen section if you want ;)

  117. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:53 am

    Blake-

    I wouldn’t have spent the 10 mil on Kuroda and taken a chance with Noesi in the Ro instead.

    Bet he could put up as good numbers as Kuroda for a fraction of the cost.

    Guess we might find out from his time in Seattle.

    ;)

  118. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    108-

    It’s blockages like that that give me heartburn.

    ;)

  119. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    YT-

    Can you please get us Kotchman ?

    :)

  120. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Blake-

    I thought Hafner was a “pronk”.

    Aren’t “pronks” supposed to be strong aside from bein’ stubborn ?

    :)

  121. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    108-

    I want to see the Yankees drive their cars on the test track for longer periods before they trade ‘em away.

    Are they just chevy’s, or are they Ferrari’s ?

    :)

  122. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    What you think of my AJ for Hafner idea? Everyone else hates it

    ===============================

    Doubt anyone hates it as much as the Indians would.

  123. blake January 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    “Bet he could put up as good numbers as Kuroda for a fraction of the cost.”

    Eh…ultimately yea I think so….but I doubt he would as a first year starter

  124. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Ok. I admit it. I like hoarding and collecting talented young arms.

    I want ‘em all.

    I’ll get some treatment for my obsession. I promise.

  125. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Reviewing the possible candidates to DH for the Yankees via FA. Help me out here if there are others.

    Pena-made 10M last season, good power, can field also. However would command more than 1-2M and want more abs than strictly a platoon against righties.

    Kotchman-Good season with the Rays, secondary to improved vision-lasik? Good fielder , limited power, but better OB% than any Yankee regular last year. Would 2M nab him?

    Ibanez- Will be 40 this summer and diminishing skills

    Matsui-If he plays in MLB this year it’s 10 years and 10 years in Japan. Actually hit, for average, lefties better than righties. Liability in field.

    Damon- wants abs to chase 3000. Major liability in OF. Still good power and speed.

    Vlad- Hit .290 last year, equally against righties and lefties in AL East, but swings at everything with 17 walks in 562 abs.

    If the Yankees go this route to find a bat, and won’t worry about needing them to play the field, all the while giving 1-2M, it could be Damon, but most likely Matsui.

    Are there any others they should look at? Fukudome?

  126. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Blake-

    How do we know if we are not willing to find out ?

    Maybe Noesi already IS what Campos might just become ?

    Comprendo ?

    We didn’t really give ourselves a chance to find out partner.

    Anyway, that’s now water under Mt. Ranier.

    :)

  127. blake January 20th, 2012 at 8:05 am

    “Doubt anyone hates it as much as the Indians would.”

    Maybe….Hafner hasn’t exactly been good or healthy for awhile though and its his walk year unless they pick up his 13 million dollar option which I doubt. Depends on what happens with Carmona and how bad they need a pitcher Id say. Makes more sense than a bad for bad Jason Bay swap to me

  128. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    MTU-

    Yankees need Kuroda to teach the young’uns how to throw a nasty splitter. He has one of the best to compliment his 92 mph fastball.

  129. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    YT-

    We had Freddy for that but OK.

    ;)

  130. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Bet he could put up as good numbers as Kuroda for a fraction of the cost.

    ================================

    Possibly. In general, I like this Kuroda deal, but there were some numbers from last year that really give me pause.

  131. blake January 20th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    If the Nats sign Fielder…..would Laroche be available?

  132. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Maybe….Hafner hasn’t exactly been good or healthy for awhile though and its his walk year unless they pick up his 13 million dollar option which I doubt.

    ==========================================

    Why take on 2 years of Burnett? More likely scenario is Hafner starts the year an Indian and is traded to a club that needs a bat late in the season, with the Tribe paying most of his remaining salary. Then in ’13 they have neither Burnett nor Hafner and they’d be miles better off.

  133. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    The Yankees tried using more than 1 young starter in their Ro and things blew up in their face.

    Ever since then they have studiously avoided it.

    Perhaps the idea was not bad just the particular implementaion ?

    ;)

  134. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:12 am

    in other words they used the wrong 2 guys.

    What if those 2 were a Nova and a Noesi.

    What then ?

    Makes me wonder.

    ;)

  135. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    If the Nats sign Fielder…..would Laroche be available?

    =================================

    I’d think. Can easily see him being dealt to the Brewers if Fielder ends up signing with the Nats.

  136. blake January 20th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    “Why take on 2 years of Burnett?”

    Because 2/12 of Burnett is pretty cheap innings they may need? Can’t see them getting anything more than a fringe prospect for Hafner at the deadline unless he really has a bigtime comeback.

  137. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    Blake-

    Carmona had a 7M club option which was probably picked up. Wonder if they can void that deal.

    Is Shelley Duncan available?

  138. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:17 am

    YT-

    Carmona came up with a pretty slick name for himself.

    Perhaps his mistake was in not calling himself “Dante” instead of “Fausto”.

    :)

  139. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Because 2/12 of Burnett is pretty cheap innings they may need? Can’t see them getting anything more than a fringe prospect for Hafner at the deadline unless he really has a bigtime comeback.

    =============================

    Suppose so. Don’t really see the Yankees paying Hafner’s $15M (’12 and buyout) AND $21M of Burnett’s remaining salary though.

  140. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Adam LaRoche has this remaining on his contract.

    12:$8M, 13:$10M mutual option ($1M buyout)

    The Brewers have stated that they are tapped out.

    By Mike Axisa [January 19 at 8:13pm CST]
    Coming off their first NLCS appearance in 29 years, the Brewers are looking at the first nine-figure payroll in franchise history heading into 2012. Tom Haudricourt of The Journal Sentinel spoke to GM Doug Melvin, who confirmed that the team will outspend its projected budget next year.

    “We’re way over what we projected our budget to be at this point,” said Melvin. “It’s over $100 million. We hoped to be in the low 90s.”

  141. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    It’s a good sign that we find ourselves only worrying about who our DH might be in the future ?

    Most teams would love to have just that concern.

    Instead of as many holes a a nice piece of Swiss cheese like so many do.

    :)

  142. upstate kate January 20th, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Good morning
    nice to see a post w/ a pix of Pineda instead of Montero

  143. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Kate-

    Morning back at ya”.

    We will all have to learn to love Pineda Colada’s now.

    :)

  144. Benny Blanco January 20th, 2012 at 8:26 am

    MTU,

    Remember, bloggers on here were saying right after the season that they would not deal for montero for felix because of the enormous amount of innings on his arm already.

    I’m convinced that we are all senile and dont know what we what.

  145. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    nice to see a post w/ a pix of Pineda instead of Montero

    ======================

    Instead of who?

  146. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    It’s a good sign that we find ourselves only worrying about who our DH might be in the future ?

    Most teams would love to have just that concern.

    Instead of as many holes a a nice piece of Swiss cheese like so many do.
    —————————
    MTU-

    Few holes, many concerns!

    i

  147. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Benny-

    Well the Yankees sure did !

    :)

  148. upstate kate January 20th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    regardless of how we feel about the trade, he is ours now…or almost ours

  149. BD (Boston Dave) January 20th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Not much point in the Yanks worrying about the DH. Theres a month left and a bunch of capable hitters. One of them will sign for 1/$1-2M over the next couple weeks.

    Unless Prince REALLY wants to be a Yankee for 1-3 years, the Yanks can just sit back and let guys come to them.

  150. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    If we only knew which 10 teams are on Burnett’s no trade list this year. There has to be one LoHudder who can sneak into his home and “bug” it!

    http://www.celebritydetective......ofile.html

  151. BD (Boston Dave) January 20th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    Alex Rodriguez suggested that various Yankees should assume designated hitter duties from game to game.

    “You want the DH spot to be one that’s kind of a revolving door,” he told ESPN Deportes. For his part, A-Rod is willing to pitch in at DH, but stated that he is “really excited about playing third base.”

  152. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    YT-

    Not bad for a 2nd home.

    :)

  153. pat January 20th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    If Derek and/or Alex slapped a cease and desist on people who made unflattering T-shirts about them, Boston’s unemployment rate would go up a %.

  154. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Cecil Fielder thinks his son will sign with the Nationals. With the power of an opt out clause, it makes sense for him to guarantee himself more than 2-3 years.

  155. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Are we signing Chavez ?

  156. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    YT-

    Perfect sense.

  157. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    The Brewers have stated that they are tapped out.

    ======================

    We’ll see. I can’t believe that a team with pitching good enough to compete for a playoff spot is going to settle for the production a stiff like Matt Gamel offers at 1B, especially with Braun out til Memorial Day.

  158. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    YT-

    It’s analagous to what we did with CC.

    A reassurance.

    ;)

  159. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Not bad for a 2nd home.

    http://www.celebritydetective......ofile.html
    ——————————
    MTU -

    Good one!! Where will he be staying next? :)

  160. blake January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Trader,

    Given that the Indians signed Carmona’s deal based on knowledge that he was three years you her than he is…..I would think they’d have pretty good grounds to void it if they wanted to pursue that.

    DF, Hafner is only owed 13 million for 2012 with a club option for 2013 I think.

  161. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    In Arkansas.

    At his fishing place.

    :)

  162. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Dogface-

    Here’s the rest of the MLBTR note on the Brewers: However I see your point, especially since the NL Central title could still be within their grasp.

    There’s no indication that the Brewers will need to move some players to shed payroll, and Haudricourt notes that the $100MM+ figure includes players who under team control but remain unsigned. That includes the arbitration-eligible Shaun Marcum and Jose Veras, who filed for $8.7MM and $2.375MM earlier this week, respectively. The team countered with $6.75MM and $2MM.

    Melvin also said it’s unlikely the Brewers would be able to re-sign Prince Fielder even if the slugger was willing to take a one-year deal. Milwaukee agreed to sign Norichika Aoki for two years and $2.25MM yesterday, but their biggest additions came earlier this offseason: Aramis Ramirez (three years, $36MM) and Alex Gonzalez (one-year, $4.25MM).

  163. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:43 am

    DF, Hafner is only owed 13 million for 2012 with a club option for 2013 I think

    =========================

    Yes. Buyout for ’13 is $2.75M, so it’s really almost $16M for Hafner.

  164. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Blake-

    Hafner’s contract:

    07:$6.3M, 08:$8.05M, 09:$11.5M, 10:$11.5M, 11:$13M, 12:$13M, 13:$13M club option ($2.75M buyout)
    limited no-trade clause allowing Hafner to block trades to certain unspecified clubs

  165. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    YT:

    Yeah, I’ve seen that. Who knows? Brian Cashman once said Bubba Crosby is his CF. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    BTW, does anyone know whether Braun’s salary for 50 games comes off the books should he wind up serving those 50 games? We’re only talking about $2M, but they are apparently in tight budget mode.

  166. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Is Nunez going to take all the extra IF time at 3rd, ss, and 2nd ?

  167. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    What about trading Burnett [33M] for this players remaining 2 years on his contract.

    12:$14M, 13:$14M

    Like Hafner with his concerns over his tendon injury in his right foot, this player has injury concerns that have limited his playing time.

    Justin Morneau?

  168. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Way off topic, but sorta interesting. The St Louis Rams have been named the home team for the NFL annual game in London……for the next three years. Can’t imagine logistics allow for an NFL franchise across the pond, but this seems like maybe a baby step in that direction.

  169. Duh Innings January 20th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    There’s an article in today’s New York Post where A-Rod says he’s not a full-time DH.

    Since he wants to force the issue, he should be the full-time DH. He’d be better than Damon, Matsui, Pena, Vasquez, or Jones and the Yanks defense at 3B would be upgraded.

    I say re-sign Eric Chavez, make Gerald Laird who has power the new #9-slot hitting 3B for the rookie minimum, give Chavez and Nunez some starts at third (Chavez bats eighth when he starts, Nunez ninth), and make A-Rod the full-time DH, too bad if A-Rod doesn’t like it. If Laird doesn’t get the job done with the bat, send him back to AAA, call up Vasquez to be the DH, put A-Rod back at 3B, and have A-Rod there until a new everyday 3B could be acquired via trade. Another option would be start Nunez at 3B, leave A-Rod at DH, and call up Dickerson for a Dickerson/Cervelli/Chavez/Jones bench.

    A-Rod is in full “me” mode already. I know why he doesn’t want to be a full-time DH. He doesn’t want to be a full-time DH because it means all the homeruns he hits in his final six years under contract will be as someone who doesn’t play the field and people will say he’s not the true homerun king because he never played the field in his final six years. Hey A-Rod, you cheated when you were with Texas 2001-2003, so you already wouldn’t be the true homerun king if you broke Bonds’ record which is arguably a record itself considering steroids and other PEDs will forever be linked to his name even though he has not been formally found to have used them, and Bonds perjured himself. Hank Aaron played his entire career in the field and while DH is a position of sorts, that’s exactly what it is, but the DH is actually something created in the ’70s to prolong the careers of players who could still hit but can’t play the field anymore and to boost offense since pitching dominated the late ’60s-early ’70s.

  170. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Is Nunez going to take all the extra IF time at 3rd, ss, and 2nd ?

    ===========================

    Seems to be the leading candidate right now, no?

  171. Shame Spencer January 20th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    “BTW, does anyone know whether Braun’s salary for 50 games comes off the books should he wind up serving those 50 games? We’re only talking about $2M, but they are apparently in tight budget mode.”

    Not sure dogface, but I hope it doesn’t come off the books. That way, teams would have incentive to try and make sure their players are clean.

  172. dogface January 20th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    YT:

    What do the Twins get out of that?

  173. Shame Spencer January 20th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Arod isn’t in me mode – he’s smart enough to know he’s more valuable to us if he’s playing 3rd base.

  174. Shame Spencer January 20th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    “Is Nunez going to take all the extra IF time at 3rd, ss, and 2nd ?”

    I really hope not…again, sorta makes you wonder if they knew they were moving Montero before they let Nakawhateverhisnameis head back to Japan.

    That’s funny about the Rams… 3 years in a row? Isn’t it kind of weird they’d showcase the same team over there for 3 straight seasons?

  175. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    DF-

    Yes. And that concerns me a bit unless his fielding improves.

    He was brutal at 3rd at times last year.

    Much rather have the sure-handed Chavez manning 3rd base.

    Nunez seems a bit better at ss and he can play a little OF too.

  176. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    And that’s another reason I was hoping they’d come to terms with Nakajima.

  177. Erin January 20th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Morning LoHudders

    Gossip Break: http://tiny.cc/hah3f

    Sidenote-Alex is looking mighty fine in that suit. ;)

  178. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Pena has a glove but the bat is missing.

    :(

  179. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    I’ve got the answer.

    Clone Nunez and Pena.

    :)

  180. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    What ever happened to discussions about sending Burnett cross town for Jason Bay. One bad contract for another.

    12:$16M, 13:$16M, 14:$17M club option ($3M buyout)

    2014 option guaranteed with 600 PAs in 2013 or 500 PAs in both 2012, 2013
    full no-trade clause

    Close to even if the 2014 option doesn’t kick in and helps the Yankees at DH and outfield, plus replaces Swisher if they decide to let him walk, while looking to the FA OF class for 2014. Plus Bay hit well in AL

    Thoughts?

  181. Duh Innings January 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    ‘Say A-Rod hit 35-40 HR as the DH this year.

    Who wouldn’t be happy with 20 HR from 3B mostly from the #9 slot (as I’d bat Chavez eighth in games he starts) like this:

    Laird 8, Nunez 7, a re-signed Eric Chavez 5

    ???

    I would be thrilled because that’s more homeruns than A-Rod hit last year, andLaird would be making the rookie minimum, Nunez still very little/well below $1M, and Chavez say $1.5M base.

    The Yanks would have A-Rod back in through 2007 production mode or almost that and as many as five options for 3B for 2013: Laird, Nunez, Laird-Nunez platoon, trade acquisition, and free agent signing (David Wright?)

  182. MTU January 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    YT-

    I must admit I like the way you think.

    Which means you are in a lot of trouble.

    :)

    New thread —–>

  183. Erin January 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    New Post- Pinch hitting: Eric Kopp

    :arrow:

  184. PacoDooley January 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    blake January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 am
    Trader,

    Given that the Indians signed Carmona’s deal based on knowledge that he was three years you her than he is…..I would think they’d have pretty good grounds to void it if they wanted to pursue that.
    ————————————

    Technically the team has a deal with a ‘Fausto Carmona’, not Roberto Hernandez Heredia. Therefore, I imagine that the deal could immediately be voided on legal grounds that the person named in the contract does not exist. I also imagine that he may not be allowed to re-enter the US given that the government has been trying to be more aggressive in its reaction to identify fraud.

    That said, I agree with Tim Brown (on Yahoo!), who made an argument that we should be sympathetic to people like Carmona and the others that have committed identify fraud to get a ticket out of poverty.

  185. Yankee Trader January 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    New post. Pinch hitting: Eric Kopp —–>

  186. blake January 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Trader,

    That horrible Omar Minya special vesting option on Bay is reason enough not to even consider him IMO

  187. Duh Innings January 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Shame Spencer January 20th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Arod isn’t in me mode – he’s smart enough to know he’s more valuable to us if he’s playing 3rd base.

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    He is in “me” mode because by him saying he’s not a full-time DH, he’s saying he doesn’t want to be that. Who is he to say what he is and isn’t? If the Yanks think he is a full-time DH now, he is a DH. They’re his boss not vice versa. ‘Thing is, the Yanks don’t think he is a full-time DH, so why is A-Rod running his mouth about what he is? I know the Yanks will start him at 3B and that is a mistake because the Yanks are better offensively and defensively with A-Rod at DH and Laird/Nunez/Chavez at 3B and in the #9 slot (Chavez in the #8 in games he starts at 3B.)

    A-Rod is better than Damon, Matsui, Pena, Jones, or Vasquez at DH.

    Laird/Nunez/Chavez are younger and overall better than A-Rod at 3B.

    Laird would cost the rookie minimum, Damon I’d say at least $3M, Matsui $2M, and Pena $6M (bare minimum.) Laird can play the field, Damon, Matsui, and Vasquez can’t, and there’s no need for Pena to play 1B because we have Teixiera. Jones is best served as the #4 OF who starts at DH vs. lefties because he kills them.

    The Yanks would be three men-deep at backup 3B and two men-deep at backup 1B (Chavez and Swisher), three if Laird could play 1B in a pinch.

    The fact that A-Rod has publicly said he’s not a full-time DH when nowhere have the Yanks said he will be one this year or even next means he is one and he knows it, else why force the issue? Why say you’re not something when no one in the organization has said you are that? Cuz you are that! If you bring it up when no one else in the organization (the only people who matter in the end) has, you have tipped your hand.


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