Pineda trade becomes official
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 23, 2012 
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The Yankees have officially announced the Montero-Pineda trade. Here’s the press release.
The New York Yankees today announced they have acquired RHP Michael Pineda and RHP Jose Campos from the Seattle Mariners in exchange for C/DH Jesus Montero and RHP Hector Noesi.
Pineda, who turned 23 on January 18, went 9-10 with a 3.74 ERA (171.0 IP, 71 ER), 55 walks and 173 strikeouts in 28 starts with the Mariners in 2011 in his first Major League action. He finished fifth in American League Rookie of the Year Award voting, leading all AL rookies in strikeouts and strikeouts/9.0 IP (9.11), ranking second in innings pitched, opponents batting average (.211) and quality starts (19), tying for second in starts and ranking fourth in wins. He also held right-handed batters to a Major League-low .184 batting average (min. 225 batters faced).
The right-hander’s 173 strikeouts were the sixth-most by an AL rookie over the last 30 years and second-most all time by a Mariners rookie behind Mark Langston’s mark of 204 in 1984. Both his strikeout-to-walk ratio (3.15) and strikeouts/9.0IP mark (9.11) rank as second-highest all time by a qualifying AL rookie.
Pineda opened the season in the Mariners’ starting rotation and was the third-youngest AL player on a 2011 Opening Day roster at 22 years, 72 days (as of March 31), behind Kansas City LHP Tim Collins (21 years, 222 days) and Chicago-AL LHP Chris Sale (22 years, 1 day). He earned AL Rookie of the Month honors in April (4-1, 2.01 ERA), and was named to the American League All-Star team after posting an 8-6 record with a 3.03 ERA in the first half.
A native of Yaguate, D.R., Pineda was signed by Seattle as a non-drafted free agent on December 12, 2005. He was named the Mariners’ Pitcher of the Year in 2010 and was a finalist for the USA Today Minor League Player of the Year. He entered the 2011 season as the Mariners’ top pitching prospect (second overall), according to Baseball America, as well possessing the organization’s “Best Fastball” and “Best Slider.”
According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the last player to pitch with the Yankees at age 23 or younger after having already pitched for another Major League team was Mike Morgan, acquired by the Yankees from Oakland in exchange for INF Fred Stanley in 1980 after pitching the 1978 and 1979 seasons with the Athletics. Morgan made his Yankees debut in 1982 at the age of 22 years, 187 days.
Campos, 19 from La Guairá, Venezuela, was signed by the Mariners as a non-drafted free agent on January 15, 2009, and has compiled a 14-10 record with a 3.26 ERA (171. IP, 62 ER) in three minor league seasons. He spent the 2011 season with short-season Single-A Everett, where he went 5-5 with a 2.32 ERA (81.1 IP, 21 ER) and a team-high 85 strikeouts, leading the Northwest League in ERA and strikeouts and ranking second in opponent’s batting average (.214). He walked just 13 batters the entire 2011 season, recording a 1.44 BB/9.0IP ratio, third-lowest among Northwest League starters. Campos was named to the Northwest League All-Star team, and was tabbed as the league’s top right-handed prospect (third overall) by Baseball America.
Montero, 22, hit .328 (20-for-61) with nine runs, four doubles, four home runs, 12 RBI and seven walks in 18 games (14 starts at DH, three starts at C) in his Major League debut as a September call-up with the Yankees in 2011. Originally signed by the Yankees as a non-drafted free agent on October 17, 2006, Montero spent a majority of the 2011 season with Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, batting .288 (121-for-420) with 52 runs, 19 doubles, 18 home runs and 67 RBI in 109 games and leading all International League catchers with a .997 fielding percentage (two errors, 655 total chances). He ranked third among all Yankees farmhands in home runs at the minor league level en route to being named to the International League’s midseason All-Star team. Following the season, the Venezuela native was tabbed by Baseball America as the Yankees’ top prospect for the third straight year, as well as being named the organization’s “Best Hitter for Average” and “Best Power Hitter.”
Noesi, 24, saw his first Major League action in 2011, going 2-2 with a 4.47 ERA (56.1 IP, 28 ER) in 30 appearances (two starts) over four stints with the Yankees. The right-hander was 2-1 with a 4.01 ERA (51.2 IP, 23 ER) in 28 relief appearances, while going 0-1 with a 9.64 ERA (4.2 IP, 5 ER) in two starts—both against the Tampa Bay Rays. Noesi owns a career record of 30-18 at the minor league level with a 2.98 ERA (428.1IP, 142ER) and 401 strikeouts in 97 games (74 starts).
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That’s Pineda?????
Oh man we are so screwed.
Damnit.
Sickels on Pineda: 1) Michael Pineda, RHP, Grade A: I love him. Future number two starter if he stays healthy.
Sickels on Montero 1) Jesus Montero, C, Grade A: Acquired from Yankees in Michael Pineda deal. I strongly, strongly believe in his bat, to the point of giving him a Grade A even with his highly-questionable defense.
Newsflash:
Now that the trade is official the Yankee also announced that AJ Burnett has been traded to the “Penguins” of the Anarctic Southern League.
The “Kodiaks” of the Siberian league also rumored to be interested but the Penguins offered a larger icesheet and better icefishing.
We actually acquired the Michael Pineda who pitched for the Marineros, the mexican league team that plays out of Mazatlan. We’ve been had!
This promises to be a very cheerful thread.
Our rotation will now have the pitchers who finished 4th (Nova) and 5th (Pineda) in 2011 ROY voting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xrlf3taEo
Finally
Pardon if this sentiment has been expressed previously in the last 17 hours, but the last 5 weeks should teach every sports fans in NY if you think you got things figured and are feeling certain about the future, think again.
This has saved us from decades of “Full Monty” home run calls. There are many ways of winning trades
Our rotation will now have the pitchers who finished 4th (Nova) and 5th (Pineda) in 2011 ROY voting.
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Born losers!
Yo no soy marinero.
Soy Yankitan.
What’s a #2 starter?
Tom in NJ – Cliff Lee!
Seriously.
Best of Luck Jesus. Bring your raincoat.
Welcome Michael. You now have the privledge of pitching for the greatest sports franchise in the history of sports. Make the most of it.
P.S. We promise to score more runs for you than Seattle did.
Welcome to the team Pineda!
It’s funny how Noesi when he was a Yankee was just seen at best, a back of rotation starter. Now, that he’s a Mariner, we have Rosenthal coming out that a scout thinks he can be a 3rd starter in a rotation. It’s funny how evaluations change over night.
Michael Pineda had finished pitching to the AL East by August 21st.
Ivan Nova faced 5 of his 9 AL East teams from the end of August on.
It’s not really a secret pitching wears down as the season wears on.
Same OPS? Nova wins that fight.
Now you want to try to squeeze some more stats?
You really should know better than to just throw cold stats up on a screen and think I’m going to bite.
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That said, and since I said from the get go, I’m psyched as hell to have Pineda. It didn’t take me the same convincing it took many of you.
WELCOME MICHAEL PINEDA!
“What’s a #2 starter?”
The object of Cashman’s obsession?
We have many pitching prospects who are potential #1′s for the Pirates.
Born losers!
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Angel Berroa was on the Yankees in 2009, the last time they won a world series. Coincidence?
“Angel Berroa was on the Yankees in 2009, the last time they won a world series. Coincidence?”
So was the REAL ROY of the year Berroa won it.
I think I might become a singularity when Jesus Montero faces Yu Darvish for the first time.
I assume since the trade is official we can now talk about something else. Nevermind, what was I thinking?
Why don’t we talk about how members of the board say Pineda is no good, will go to the bullpen and Montero is generational? That would be satisfying. Oh wait, we can talk about how Noesi added five mph so he was throwing 98 in the winter league, and he really is the best prospect in baseball.
The object of Cashman?s obsession?
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I thought that was a left-handed reliever.
http://tracking.si.com/2012/01.....ul-ibanez/
Please PLEASE add Matsui, Detroit. I’ll pass on Ibanez and Damon, too.
Mac-
Did you see the Newsflash I posted above ?
stuckey – That depends on how much you detract from Mastui because of his lack of defense… particularly range. He led AL OF in errors that year too.
OK. Now the dominoes can continue to fall.
Can’t wait to see this guy geared up in pinstripes.
stuckey – That depends on how much you detract from Mastui because of his lack of defense… particularly range. He led AL OF in errors that year too.
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and he played something like 8-10 years in japan.
While being interviewed on the completion of his trade to NYY’s Michael Pineda revealed a little known fact.
He said, “I do have a CU. I’ve been keeping it a secret from the Mariners though I plan to use it now that I am with the Yankees. People who thought it was no good are gonna be surprised.”
Still don’t like this trade. The more time that has gone since it was announced hasn’t improved my opinion of this trade, if anything, after watching numerous videos of Pinata pitching, it has hardened my opinion that this was not a good trade.
Oh well.
Cashman’s phone bill is gonna spike now that the trade is official.
“OK. Now the dominoes can continue to fall.”
Have they traded AJ yet?
JF-
When that happens perhaps you will turn into a Neutron Star.
Blake-
Yes. See my newsflash at the beginning of the thread.
They should sign Fielder and pay him in Dominos (pizza)
Pineda looks happy throwing that pitch. It’s almost like he knows he’ll be pitching for the Yankees shortly.
Amazing how long it took to consummate the trade.
Best of luck to Noesi and Montero.
And Pineda & Campos, too!
Blake-
Sorry but the Nats have offered pizza and money. lot’s of it.
MTU,
I think Burnett, if he can throw strikes, would dominate in that league. Luckily, he didn’t list them on his no-trade.
I wonder if now we will see any DH action. Their isn’t much as a free agent so I am hoping for a creative trade. They will not take on money in 2014, so anyone with a contract extending beyond that is out. Bay has an option for 2014, but I don’t know how it kicks in.
If no trades then Damon, Matsui and Ibanez in that order. I do much prefer a left handed hitter.
MTU,
NY has better pizza though!
HW-
He’ll be even happier when sees they have scored over 5 runs on average in his starts.
Jason Bay
4 years/$66M (2010-13), plus 2014 option
signed by NY Mets as a free agent 1/5/10
$8.5M signing bonus
10:$6.5M, 11:$16M, 12:$16M, 13:$16M, 14:$17M club option ($3M buyout)
2014 option guaranteed with 600 PAs in 2013 or 500 PAs in both 2012, 2013
full no-trade clause
Also not part of his contract, hitting RHP.
Pass.
Tom in N.J. January 23rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
What?s a #2 starter?
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Matt Cain for the Giants, Greinke for the Brewers, Hamels for the Phillies (Cliff Lee is a #1 on most teams), Shields for the Rays, Haren for the Angels, etc
Austin-
I think your needs will be satisfied shortly.
And no, I do not work for a fortune cookie company.
Finally it’s official. Now let’s see who else we sign and hope and pray for AJ ! ( to be TRADED )
Done deal, get over it, stop nit-picking this guy to death before he even gets to ST.
Pineda will have to get use to the longer breaks between innings…..hes used to throwing innings like 5 minute apart after the Mariners go down 1-2-3.
Blake-
No argument there !
blake – More rest! He could throw like 400 innings…
Blake-
That should improve his stamina.
Apparently Cashman is holding a conference call at 5pm. This should make the evening interesting.
ID-
He’ll pitch even less innings because the game will be over after 5-6 innings with our pen.
Another luxury he is not used to.
Cashman is smoking his objective pipe now to prepare.
trisha
Do you have any evidence to support your contention that pitchers wear down as the season progresses and/or that hitters do not wear down?
Over/under on number of times he uses the word “process”?
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 12m hearing aj burnett has exactly the trade market youd expect for an expensive, mediocre flake. #pieinthesky
This is the kind of stuff that makes Heyman a clown.
I was hoping they’d put down the pipe. Oh well.
heyman has the twitter following i would expect from a hackneyed flake of a reporter.
What # does Michael get ?
“What # does Michael get ?”
28 would be cool.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 53m Rival scout calls Noesi “surprise piece” for #Mariners, maybe even this year’s Fister. Sees Noesi as 3-4 starter. #Yankees #MLB
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 26m #Yankees in no rush to sign another bat. Why should they be? A good number still out there. Teams in need can almost name their price. #MLB
Does Heyman only cover the Yankees? I never hear him call players from other teams names like a teenage bully on teh internets.
Noesi is going to do really well in Seattle, and probably bring in some nice pieces at the trade deadline in a year or two.
I wish Heyman would have the courage to say that to AJ’s face so I could watch AJ mop the floor with him.
A good number means theres lots of bats, not necessarily good ones, Kenny
“I wish Heyman would have the courage to say that to AJ’s face so I could watch AJ mop the floor with him.”
Oh c’mon.
That’s the foundation on which this forum is built.
I’m not at all interested to hear what Cashman has to say.
I think we covered it all here since the trade was announced.
YankeesWFAN Yankee conference call being moderated by woman named Sade. Seriously. #smoothoperator
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS if you disagree about aj burnett, you’re free to convince me otherwise over a sushi lunch. my treat. #lonelyatlunchtime
“Noesi is going to do really well in Seattle, and probably bring in some nice pieces at the trade deadline in a year or two.”
I would have rather then traded Nova.
Nick-
I think Heyman “becomes” the sushi.
hardwired7 January 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Pineda looks happy throwing that pitch. It’s almost like he knows he’ll be pitching for the Yankees shortly.
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I see a lackadaisical oaf. Clearly he’s not cut out for this stage.
Montero was spitting nails and pissing vinegar.
Big trouble I tell you.
Te deseo toda la suerte del mundo, Michael! Y mantenerte saludable! (Y Jesus tambien!)
I wish Heyman would have the courage to say that to AJ?s face so I could watch AJ mop the floor with him.
No, MTU, Heyman, in his tweets, has as much courage as some of the folks who post here.
I think part of the fantasy involves AJ breaking his hand, no?
I think Heyman sucks, but if the test of expressing an opinion is whether or not you want to fight someone over it, it would be a pretty quiet world, and not necessarily a better one.
Depends on the place but I’d take a free sushi lunch with Heyman to discuss the merits of AJ.
#throwingpiesainteasy
@ESPNNYYankees
we are one of the deeper catching organizations in the game, and we’re really deep in offense — Cashman on trading Montero
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Cashman said remaining DHs on FA market are “secondary,” will explore trade market first
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Cashman: Maybe we use one of our excess pitchers to get a bat
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I’m not ready to speculate on how it’s all going to shake out — Cashman on the Yankees sudden surplus of starting pitchers
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He may very well be the best player I’ve traded — Cashman on Montero
I just think Heyman is mean spirited and a douche…….critizing a guys ability to pitch is one thing…..questioning their intelligence and calling them a flake etc….is another.
I like those quotes about looking to trade for a bat and about Hughes being a starter.
Blake,
Brian Cashman gets MUCH worse around these parts.
Why the different standard?
Bronx Jeers, I would do the same but with the proviso that we’re sitting at the sushi bar and not across from each other at a table because I fear Heyman is a spray talker. #heymanspitandwasabidontmix
Great visual. Thanks.
I fear Heyman is a spray talker.
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To me he sounds like a New York version of Barney Frank. Spicy ramen could definitely pose a problem.
Barney Frank deserves better.