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Pinch hitting: Sarah Meira Rosenberg

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

What a perfect Pinch Hitter post for the day of Jorge Posada’s retirement.

Sarah Meira Rosenberg’s brother has been a LoHud pinch hitter in the past, and this year she jumped into act with a wonderfully written essay about fan loyalty to individual players. Born in the Bronx, she’s currently on full scholarship in the Macaulay Honors program at Brooklyn College, majoring in creative writing. At 17 she was published the anthology Nine Novels by Younger Americans, and she’s had a short story published in the December 2011 issue of eFiction Magazine.

At the end of this post, Sarah Meira asks a question. Perhaps one of the wonderful things about following Posada’s career was that he so rarely forced his fans to answer that question.

My little sister is what any self-respecting Yankee fan would call a poser. A wannabe. She barely follows the team, knows next to nothing about the history, but she claims to be a fan, and she loves, absolutely loves, Mark Teixeira. She bought his jersey, knows how many kids he has, and at one point, pictures of him — excised from the New York Times sports section, much to the dismay of those of us who wanted to read the articles on the other sides — wallpapered a significant chunk of her ceiling.

I’m not mocking this. We all do this, to varying degrees. We’re very attached to our players. We even get possessive. I mean, they’re our players. Rooting for a team isn’t always just about the uniform; it’s about the guys in the uniform. Our guys.

This can be crucial to our investment in the game, and to our enjoyment of it. Baseball is a game of tiny, isolated, individual battles — every time a player steps to the plate, every time a ball is hit his way, every time a pitcher toes the rubber — battles which inevitably draw each player into the harsh spotlight at some point or another. So the more wrapped up you are in rooting for individual players, the greater the drama of each confrontation. The more thrilling the victory. The more crushing the defeat.

How do we get ourselves invested in our players? Mostly by osmosis. We hear things, we read things, we see things, and over time we get a feel for a guy and his overall persona. We love the Paul O’Neills and the Jorge Posadas because they’re fiery and intense. We love Mariano Rivera because he’s effortlessly humble and classy. We love Dave Robertson and Curtis Granderson because of their devotion to community service. We love Nick Swisher because he freakin’ loves us, man! And I’m sure one of the reasons my little sister latched onto Mark Teixeira is because he’s an unabashedly dedicated family man, which in its own way is just as swoony as the eligible bachelor angle Derek Jeter works so well.

Plus, Teixeira has pretty good hair.

This is not to take away from any of their on-field accomplishments. Quite the contrary; all of these things add to and complement the statistics, increasing the satisfaction and pride that we feel when our guys do well.

But in recent years, I’ve been learning that this investment in the individual cuts both ways. Just as a charming off-field anecdote can win a player your allegiance, a scandal can lose it. And there have been a lot of scandals, especially since the Steroid Era. All across baseball, to be fair, not just in Yankeeland. But truth be told, every scandal that touches a player of ours leaves a dent in my loyalty to that player, and every erosion of player loyalty leaves a dent in my loyalty to the team, in my ability to root innocently and wholeheartedly for its success and the success of everyone on it. It’s a noxious feedback loop.

Some scandals are more easily weathered than others. Again, it depends — perhaps completely unjustly — on the individual player involved. In the case of an Andy Pettitte, or even a Jason Giambi, the initial reveal of use of performance-enhancing substances is, of course, devastating. Yet often because of all the osmosis, because of all the good vibes we got from these guys, and how well-liked they are by teammates, managers, reporters, etc. — because of all that, we’re sometimes able to demote the scandal to merely A Nice Guy Who Made A Mistake. And we root for nice guys who make mistakes, because who doesn’t love a comeback kid? Every at-bat becomes a step toward redemption, a chance to atone for past misdeeds.

Then we have other players. Ones whose vibes are just . . . not all that great. I don’t know what it is about Alex Rodriguez, and as a fan I obviously don’t know him and have no right to judge from this distance, but pretty much everything he does aside from hitting home runs rubs me the wrong way, whether it’s his demeanor, his family issues, or his steroid use. In a weirdly personal way, I just don’t like the guy, and it’s bizarre and a bit uncomfortable to root for a guy you don’t like simply because he’s on your team. I tell myself to leave the off-field stuff off the field, but that’s just not how the fan experience works for me.

We don’t want to hate on our players. We want to love them, because they’re our gateway drug to the larger world of baseball.

But what are we supposed to do when they make it too hard?

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230 Responses to “Pinch hitting: Sarah Meira Rosenberg”

  1. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Really enjoyed your guest post. Definitely have a career in writing ahead of you.

  2. blake January 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    “But what are we supposed to do when they make it too hard?”

    Easy….sign in to Lohud and say they aren’t a “true Yankee”

    Good post….enjoyed it.

  3. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Blake-

    Lynch ‘em !

    Or alternatively.

    Be compassionate and forgiving.

    :)

  4. blake January 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    MTU,

    I agree…..trading Hughes would be less than ideal….unless the return made it worthwhile. Im pretty optimistic about him going into the season also…..he should be very motivated.

  5. butterball January 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    “Plus, Teixeira has pretty good hair.”

    Was that a “dig” at Gardner?

  6. blake January 24th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    If Hughes earns the 5th spot then the upside of the rotation would be very high…..

  7. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Just following the conversation from the last thread…

    I could be wrong but I believe it was the same people on here that have actually played the game professionally that tried to refute basic science and convince the blog that there was, in fact, such a thing as a rising fastball… I’m just sayin’ I feel like all of the opinions of the people that post here are basically equal.

  8. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    When will the Kojak-look go out of fashion ?

  9. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Absolutely Blake.

    And I hope he makes it.

  10. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    shame – tried to refute basic science and convince the blog that there was, in fact, such a thing as a rising fastball

    Sigh… That conversation makes me smile and very sad at the same time :p

  11. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Answer:

    When they stop making lollipops.

    When Pirates stop sailing the high seas.

    When it doesn’t go good with tatoos.

    When women say they don’t like the look anymore.

    All of the above

    :)

  12. 86w183 January 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Shame —

    There is such a thing as a rising fastball….

    It would clear the catcher’s head by about a foot and a half.

    Nice post — it makes me think about Willie Mays and Steve Carlton at the ends of their careers. Is it “disloyal” to want someone to retire and get annoyed when he doesn’t? I don’t think so.

    Was it disloyal of Jorge to imply he could sign with the Mets if the Yanks didn’t offer up a fourth year? Maybe a little disloyal to the Yanks, but quite loyal to his family.

  13. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Teixeira does have really good hair. ;)

  14. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Nice post that touches upon the mythology of the game. Alex got cheered quite loudly when he was introduced in. His first game back after the steroids scandal. Sometimes it’s one’s flaws that endears us to them.

    Teixeira has nice hair?

    Beware Kevin Milar in a Patriots jersey if you plan on tuning in to the MLB network this morning.

  15. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Let’s say the Nats sign Fielder this week. They still are looking for a CF’er and would like to unload Adam LaRoche and his 8M contract with a 10M club option in 2013 with a 1M buyout. They could probably use one more starter. Here’s a trade that “might” work for both teams.

    Nats get their CF’er in Gardner[2.8M], get their 5th starter in Hughes[3.2M] and trade Michael Morse due 5.25M in each of this season and next. In return if LaRoche passes his medicals the Nats pay 5M of his 8M. With the buyout of 1M the Yankees have assumed an extra 4M over the next 2 years.

    The Yankees would probably need to add some minor league talent, but would this work?

  16. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    There is such a thing as a rising fastball….

    No, there is a such a thing as imperfect perception though. This is why the “eyes” never have it all right.

  17. Yazman January 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Very well written.

    But I admit I’m saddened by the lack of love for Alex (obviously, Sarah’s far from alone).

    Many of his foibles seem to be based on trying too hard to help his team, perhaps even the steroids (and there, Alex is also far, far from alone).

  18. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    YT – I don’t think the Nats sign Matt Morse to that deal to trade him.

  19. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    YT-

    To make that trade work both of your hemispheres need to be working.

    Mine obviously aren’t.

    :)

  20. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am

    ID-

    That premise is only if they sign Fielder, wanting a CF’er and trying to unload LaRoche.

  21. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Yazman January 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Very well written.

    But I admit I?m saddened by the lack of love for Alex

    ****************

    My thoughts exactly

  22. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    And YT.

    All trades need to be put in their proper Cortex.

    :)

  23. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Andy (Hoffman) LaRoche had labrum surgery didn’t he ?

  24. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    The biggest reason I dont embrace A-Rod is the stance he took when he opted out of his contract, knowing he was cheating at that time and suckered the Yankees into a very lucrative redo contract. I’ll respect him, if the time comes when he can no longer perform well, if he retires and foregoes the rest of the contract.

  25. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    That premise is only if they sign Fielder, wanting a CF’er and trying to unload LaRoche

    ==============================

    Don’t see them involving a .900 OPS bat that cost them $5M just to have Brett Gardner.

  26. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Oops ! that’s his bro. Adam is just on drugs like me.

    SorryYT.

    :(

  27. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    dogfacve – Morse just finally put together a decent season at 29, let’s not call him “a 900 OPS player”.

  28. Villa Nova-Ya January 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I didn’t know what to expect from this post, but I was very pleasantly surprised. Nice job, Sarah. While the particular players may be different from person to person, you’re right on target.

  29. pat January 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    “….and as a fan I obviously don’t know him and have no right to judge from this distance, ..”

    but you will. :wink:

  30. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Question:

    The Kuroda trade becomes official…… ?

    TIA

  31. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    LaRoche had left shoulder surgery for a torn labrum in June, 2011 with a maximum return of 7 months which should put him close to ready by ST.

    I’m not advocating he’d be a good player to obtain, only as a way of obtaining Michael Morse, after the Nats sign Fielder.

  32. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    YT-

    I like your trade proposals way better than Bret’s.

  33. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    But what are we supposed to do when they make it too hard?

    ===============================

    1)Recognize that true character can never be identified by one’s exploits on the baseball field. 2 Acknowledge that most, if not all of us, know much of anything about who these guys really are.
    3)Acknowledge that they are all human and prone to mistakes just like everyone else. Mistakes in judgement, mistakes on the field, slips of the tongue, etc.
    4) Root, root, root for the home team in good times and bad.

  34. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Erin January 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Yazman January 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Very well written.

    But I admit I?m saddened by the lack of love for Alex

    ****************

    My thoughts exactly

    ——————

    Me three…. I’ll never rank Arod as one of my favorite players but the beatings he’s taken compared to equally or more guilty parties is sad.

    And ID – Thanks lol, I feel the same way about that convo which is why as much as I’d love to take the opinion of someone that’s played the game more seriously I’m not sure I can :P

  35. blake January 24th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    If the Nats sign Zimmerman to an extension……and sign Prince…..wonder if they’d move Rendon?

  36. disco stu January 24th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Great post Sarah … like others, though, I think Arod gets a raw deal at times.

    I always see Alex as our modern-day Reggie Jackson … but even Reggie, for all his brashness and ego, has a certain charm about him … maybe Alex comes across as being too aloof because he simply has a part of him that is just not comfortable in his own skin … I dont know, but personality-wise, he is very much the mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma.

  37. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Let try this again by simplifying it.

    The Nats sign Fielder and want a CF’er and another starter plus they want to unload Adam LaRoche who should be ready by ST after having left shoulder labrum surgery. They are willing to eat some of his contract.

    The Yankees are reportedly willing to deal a pitcher for a hitter that can play the field also.

    The trade therefore is:

    Hughes, Gardner and some minor league talent for

    Michael Morse and Adam LaRoche if he passes his physical, with the Nats giving the Yankees 5M toward Adam’s remaining potential 10M.

    Morse take over LF, can sub at 1st and LaRoche plays DH and can also sub at 1st.

    Fielder at 1st for the Nats. Hughes joins Strasburg, Gonzalez, Zimmerman, Lannan in the starting rotation. Gardner joins Werth and Bernadina in the OF.

  38. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    LaRoche has a potential of 9M not 10M, sorry.

  39. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    The Toronto Blue Jays have signed pitcher Brandon Morrow to a three-year contract worth $20 million.
    The team announced the signing Tuesday, saying it includes a $10 million club option for the 2015 season.

    Is this new news or was this only announced today? I don’t remember reading about it…

  40. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am

    YT-

    Is Morse worse than, equal to, or better than GGBG ?

    I do not know him.

  41. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Nats giving the Yankees 5M toward Adam’s remaining potential 10M.

    The day the Nats pay part of a salary for the Yankees, I think my head may explode.

  42. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    dogfacve – Morse just finally put together a decent season at 29, let’s not call him “a 900 OPS player”.

    ==========================

    I hear you. I think the Nats started seeing evidence of the bat in the 2nd half of 2010 and it appears to have continued. Sometimes guys just figure out late. We can call it the Paul O’Neill Rule if you like. Not to say that Morse’s career in anyway resembles O’Neill’s to this point, but O’Neill was a .737 OPS guy thru his Age 29 season, and didn’t hit .900 OPS until his Age 31 season. It happens sometimes.

  43. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    For some reason I keep thinking of the movie line “Prepare a funeral for a Viking!”

    Something big is happening today right?

  44. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    The day the Nats pay part of a salary for the Yankees, I think my head may explode.
    ————————————
    ID-

    Then I’d suggest you get an MRI before the potential occurs for your head to explode. :)

  45. blake January 24th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Trader,

    That’s interesting….but is Morse more valuable than Gardner? He was last year but he’s only been that guy one year and he’s 29 years old. I think maybe that’s giving up too much.

    Now if you subbed AJ for Hughes in that deal with the Yanks making the money even then id be more interested…..

  46. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Is this new news or was this only announced today? I don’t remember reading about it

    ==========================

    Happened last night but was lost in all the hubbub of the Cody Ross transaction. 8)

  47. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Jeers-

    Perhaps ?

    It is part of why I asked about when the Kuroda trade becomes official.

    He needs to be in the fold before anything else can happen IMO.

    Once he is secured the fun can really begin.

    :)

  48. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    Bronx-

    The president is speaking tonight, but I think this will trump him today-Fielder to the Nats.

    The Fielder sweepstakes are nearing their conclusion and the Nationals are a leading contender for him, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports. Some members of the Nationals’ ownership would prefer to play Adam LaRoche at first in 2012, then acquire a center fielder and move Michael Morse to first base in 2013, Rosenthal writes.

  49. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    So it’s possible that the 3 biggest bats moved this offseason… Pujols, Fielder… Montero? Go to completely benign places where their bats will do their teams little good. Fantastic :)

  50. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Bronx Jeers- Posada retiring, State of the Union address tonight, and Oscar nominations announced. Huge day. ;)

  51. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    ID-

    Benign in what sense ?

    The Halos are a direct competitor and I hardly think Pujols did nothing to help the Halos O.

    The other 2 yeah.

    ;)

  52. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Blake-
    Gardner will be 29 next August.

    He’s the key to the deal since the nats want a CF’er. I don’t know if Morse is now the real deal at 29, but if he is it might be worth the above trade.

    Morse’s stats:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....hael-morse

  53. blake January 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    If the Nats sign Prince then both Morse and Laroche kinda become expendable….Laroche would have nowhere to play and Morse really wouldn’t either once Harper comes up….unless they really want to put Werth in CF.

    Gardner+AJ and cash for Morse and Laroche.

  54. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Jerome_Preisler Posada’s five WS Championship trophies on display. http://img.ly/d5jj

    Jerome_Preisler Places are set for Jorge and Laura at center of podium, Pauline and Jorge Jr. will flank them. Photo to come.

  55. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    So it’s possible that the 3 biggest bats moved this offseason… Pujols, Fielder… Montero? Go to completely benign places where their bats will do their teams little good.
    —————————————

    Aren’t the Angels now a team to contend for a playoff spot?
    The Nats will be in a tough NL East division with only the hapless Mets as patsies.
    Montero is the only one going to a non contending team this year.

  56. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    I don’t think I’m including GGBG at this point.

    You haven’t convinced me that Morse is even as good as GGBG much less a better fit.

    And LaRoche is risky because of the surgery.

    Unless you can improve the argument I pass.

    Too convoluted. Got to be an easier way.

  57. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Gardner+AJ and cash for Morse and Laroche

    ====================

    Hysterical laughter from the Nats front office.

  58. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    awwww….. :)

    AnthonyMcCarron In program for Posada presser, there’s a pic of Posada and Jeter at Posada’s wedding. Jeter was best man.

  59. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    MTU – He certainly “helps” their offense, but not like the impact on the league if Fielder would have signed with the Yankees/Rangers. The Angels scored 670 runs last year, just adding Pujols isn’t enough.

  60. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    I got an easier idea. Nats keep Morse, keep Laroche and the Yankees sign Prince Fielder.

  61. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    AndrewMarchand Jeter and Mariano are expected at the Posada presser

  62. blake January 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    “Hysterical laughter from the Nats front office.”

    Why is that…..Morse has two years of control and nowhere to play of they sign Fielder…..he’s 29 and has one good season in the big leagues and they need a CFer badly. Laroche would have nowhere to play either and is coming off surgery. They need a 5th starter and innings to go along with the young guys they have…..fills needs for both teams

    Depends on how much they like Gardner probably….listen they may not do it ….but I don’t think its THAT crazy……Gardner and Morse are close to equal values (Garners has one more year of control ) and AJ and Laroche are both damaged goods.

  63. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Blake-

    Make that deal work.

    LaRoche contract:
    12:$8M, 13:$10M mutual option ($1M buyout)

    Morse:
    2 years/$10.5M (2012-13)-not sure how it’s broken down

    Gardner:
    12: 2.8M

    Burnett:
    12: 16.5M 13: 16.5M partial NT

  64. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    I’m really just thinking about Jorge who was as much a ” warrior” for this team as Paul O’Neil.

    State of the lineup is bigger than state of the union IMHO.

  65. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    The addition of Andruw Jones ensures the presence of Gardner IMHO…unless some team gets aggressive and wants to overpay for Gardner.

  66. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    ID-

    Just my take but in no way would I describe the addition of Albert Pujols to that lineup as “benign”.

    I think the Halos are way more dangerous now.

    Especially with their pitching.

    Agree to disagree on this one.

    ;)

  67. Tom in N.J. January 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Dickey
    Berra
    Howard
    Munson
    Posada

  68. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    He certainly “helps” their offense, but not like the impact on the league if Fielder would have signed with the Yankees/Rangers. The Angels scored 670 runs last year, just adding Pujols isn’t enough

    ===========================

    Additions of Trout and Ianetta could help some and I think whoever the guy is that bats ahead of Pujols (I’m thinking Kendrick) probably gets a nice boost as well.

  69. Tom in N.J. January 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    The Angels lineup, to me, is like the Blue Jays lineup now.

  70. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Tom in NJ – Not just because they are paying that familiar Vernon Wells contract? :p

  71. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    The Angels might also get back Kendry Morales at DH to add to the 667 runs they scored last year, plus the #1 pitching staff, based on ERA in AL, now with the addition of Wilson.

    Afraid I disagree also.

  72. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    I think the Rangers are gonna have their hands full with the Halos.

    Gonna give ‘em a serious run for the money.

    Blake-

    Who is gonna play LF if GGBG is traded since Morse is a 1B/DH type ?

    Surely you can’t be considering Jones as a FT player ?

  73. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    MTU – Really what I was getting at was Pujols doesn’t win them their division… merely pulls them up “close” to the Rangers… I doubt many would argue that the Rangers aren’t a better team… Fielder won’t win the Nats their division either…

    With the second wild card, the Angels are not really a direct threat to the Yankees…

  74. Tom in N.J. January 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Fun with saber stats:

    Freddy Garcia had a better ERA+ (122) than Dan Haren (120).

  75. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Tom-

    Did you put the catcher’s in order of best first.

    New York Yankees (1928-43, 1946)

    Bill Dickey-He’s the second-best Yankees catcher to wear No. 8, but that’s no knock on Dickey, Yogi Berra’s predecessor in New York. He batted .313 in his career, better than .300 in 10 of his first 11 seasons, and hit .362 in 1936, the highest average for a catcher until Joe Mauer hit .365 in 2009. With a strong arm and durability, he was also legendary defensively. He made 11 All-Star teams and his Yankees teams won seven World Series.

    Yogi Berra-Wasn’t quite the defensive equivalent of No. 2 on this list[Bench], but he was probably even better as a pure hitter. He was AL MVP three times – and received MVP votes for 15 years in a row – and was a 15-time AL All-Star who won 10 World Series as a Yankee in a 16-year span. He hit 358 chomers and led the Yankees in RBI in every season from 1949-55 on teams loaded with future Hall of Famers. He also caught Don Larsen’s World Series perfect game in 1956.

    From top 10 catchers in ML history:

    http://baseball.about.com/od/m.....istory.htm

  76. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    ID-

    I kinda thought we might be talkin’ a bit of semantics here.

    I gotcha.

    I do think the halos are always are a threat because it would not shock me if the Yankees had to face them at some point.

    I agree with those who respect them especially with their rotation in a short series.

    Of course we got quite a bit better in that regard too.

    :)

  77. ron January 24th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    I would love to land alex gordon.

    He can play 3b + the of.

    It would take a ton to get him.

    23 HR/87 RBI/101 R/.303 AVG/.376 OBP/.502 SLG/.879 ops.

  78. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    MTU – It’s the winter, it’s all semantics lol :)

  79. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Fun with saber stats:

    Freddy Garcia had a better ERA+ (122) than Dan Haren (120).

    ==============================

    My favorite is:

    Jack Morris career ERA+ 105
    Aj Burnett’s career ERA+ 105

  80. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Ron-

    How about GGBG and Hughes for Gordon ?

    Would that get it done ?

    Too much ? Not enough ?

  81. Tom in N.J. January 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Eras that they played in. Dickey was first because he was the first….

  82. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Gordon used to be the equivalent of Montero for the Royals, keep that in mind.

  83. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Oscar nods are in.. if Moneyball wins anything I’m gonna flip the *&%$ out.

  84. MTU January 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    ID-

    Yeah.

    Parlor games and Theory mostly.

    You’re right about that.

    ;)

  85. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    shame – I actually just watched Moneyball for the first time 2 days ago, it was pretty good? I had a hard time caring getting into the “dad” aspect of the movie, but the rest was pretty damn good. In a year of fairly poor movies is was a breath of fresh air IMO.

  86. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    AnthonyMcCarron Diana Munson, Thurman’s widow, is here at the Posada presser

  87. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am

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