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Posada: “I knew this was it”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Jorge Posada said he couldn’t remember the specific day or time when he decided to retire, but it’s clear that moment didn’t happen in the offseason. It was at some point last season that Posada told his wife and told Derek Jeter that he wasn’t coming back.

Maybe his frustration at losing his job behind the plate and his struggle to find consistency with the bat played a role in that decision, but it’s clear that, when the season ended, Posada knew his career had ended as well.

Posada said returning never crossed his mind, not even after Jesus Montero was traded and the Yankees DH spot became open. He said it wouldn’t have mattered if the Yankees had shown interest from the very beginning of the offseason, he was finished.

“I really can’t go back to tell you when and what, but I knew this was it,” Posada said.

On losing his job at catcher: “That’s tough. It’s like being demoted from Day 1. I never got a chance to fight for my job. They told me, you’ve got to do this, and that’s it. That was probably the toughest thing for me.”

On whether his skills eroded: “Hitting right-handed, I felt like something was wrong. For sure, something was wrong with my swing right-handed. I can still hit left-handed, there’s no question about it. I feel like I can. I felt like, toward the end, I wasn’t given a chance to do it to come out of the slump right-handed, but I felt good left-handed all year. Things didn’t happen for me the way I wanted them to, but I don’t think that was the reason for my decision.”

On what’s next: “I don’t know what’s going to happen for me. I really don’t. I know I want to be home, I want to relax, enjoy it, and then see what comes. See what’s going to come. I know ESPN has called. I know MLB (Network) has called. I know the YES Network has called. I don’t see myself on the mic. I don’t know. I really don’t know. I want to take it easy… I want to be home and I want to enjuoy the summer and see what comes my way.”

I’m sure I’ll be blogging a lot about Posada today. For now, here’s his emotional opening statement.

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222 Responses to “Posada: “I knew this was it””

  1. Ys Guy January 24th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Hip Hip Jorge!!!

  2. Best To Ever Do It January 24th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    ron January 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    Why didn’t the yankees just keep montero,and put joba back in the rotation?

    Joba has a fb,slider,curve,maybe more.

    They are saying that if pineda doesn’t develope another pitch,he is a number 3 or 4 starter.

    What the crap are we doing to develope our pitchers?

    ————————

    That would have made too much sense.

  3. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    On losing his job at catcher: “That’s tough. It’s like being demoted from Day 1. I never got a chance to fight for my job. They told me, you’ve got to do this, and that’s it. That was probably the toughest thing for me.”
    __

    This mindset may have presaged Montero’s departure as well.

  4. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    RobinsonCano Jorge today is a bittersweet day in Yankee History. Its sad to see my friend whose taught so much on and off the fiel? say.ly/jnL1jr1

    :)

  5. Ys Guy January 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    “This mindset may have presaged Montero’s departure as well.”
    ==========================
    agreed, they didnt think either guy could catch.

  6. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Oops…stupid link. Let’s try this:

    http://www.whosay.com/robinson.....de=jnL1jr1

  7. blake January 24th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Henry Schulman @hankschulman 3m Timmy gets two years, $40.5 million Retweeted by Jon Heyman

  8. PacoDooley January 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Thanks for the years Jorge – now we need to find the next great Yankee catcher. I am banking on Gary Sanchez…

  9. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    “agreed, they didnt think either guy could catch.”

    I wonder if Girardi was the manager instead of Torre, whether or not Posada would have had his HoF career as a Yankee.

  10. blake January 24th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    “I wonder if Girardi was the manager instead of Torre, whether or not Posada would have had his HoF career as a Yankee.”

    Maybe not…..but Scott Proctor may have ;) …..ok maybe not

  11. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Hank Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that the Giants have reached agreement on a two-year, $40.5 million contract with right-hander Tim Lincecum.
    Source: Hank Schulman on Twitter

    The Giants were hoping to luck Lincecum up to a long-term contract this offseason, but the 27-year-old had a higher asking price than the club could reach. This deal buys out his remaining arbitration years, and allows him to test the open market in 2014. Lincecum registered a 2.74 ERA and 220/86 K/BB ratio in 217 innings last year for San Francisco and should remain a bonafide ace over the course of his new two-year deal. Jan 24 – 2:28 PM
    - Rotoworld

  12. blake January 24th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Lincecum has used the arbitration process like no other…..bravo. just better hope he doesn’t get hurt in the next two years.

  13. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    DRob30 Going to miss Jorge this season. He is an amazing athlete and great friend. It was an honor to spend the past 4 seasons with him.

  14. PacoDooley January 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Lincecum and his agent did a great jo b playing high stakes chicken with the Giants. They threw out those huge arbitration numbers and the Giants were scared that they would win each of those hearings, or they never would have ratcheted his salary up so fast. Good for him – way to make the system work for you.

  15. CompassRosy January 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    mattpitman
    For the record the REAL Jon Heyman is @JonHeymanCBS. The FAKE ONE is @JohnHeymanCBS, a d-bag loser w/ no job, living in his grammas basement

    =====

    johnpboyle
    By fake breaking the Fielder signing, fake Jo(h)n Heyman has gone from two to 16 followers. Good job.

  16. Ys Guy January 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    wasn’t he under control till 2014 anyway? they just agreed to a set figure as opposed to going through arbitration twice instead?

  17. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Very dumb move on the part of SF. Worst case scenario, the giants woulda paid a little more than this 2yr deal via Arb this season and next. I was countin’ on The Freak chuckin’ for us come Sept. Now you gotta wonder what they will do regarding Cain. Sure seems to be a lotta $$$ floatin’ around All of MLB.

  18. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    There’s a fake Heyman account? :lol:

  19. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    At this point, I’m probably more hoping that the Phillies sign Cole Hamels than not – because I think the Yankees will pass next winter.

    —————————————————————————————————
    That what Pineda is for.

    There’s a lot of incentive to go below 189MM. Interesting to see what the yanks will do there.

    It wasn’t too long ago many were saying that A-Rod’s (among others) contract would not have an effect on the way they do business.

    Those waiting for the big Prince to come calling are Godotites.

  20. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    mattpitman
    For the record the REAL Jon Heyman is @JonHeymanCBS. The FAKE ONE is @JohnHeymanCBS, a d-bag loser w/ no job, living in his grammas basement

    Did @JohnHeymanCBS do the FBI background check? For all we know, the fake one is a very rich man living off of the capital gains from hard-earned wealth.

  21. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    @TBrownYahoo: Source: Prince is very close to a nine-year contract with the Detroit Tigers, according to sources.

    Better than the Rangers but worse than the nationals (in terms of hindering the Yankees going to the WS)

  22. GreenBeret7 January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Erin January 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    There’s a fake Heyman account?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Jon Heyman has finally hit the big time. He’s no longer alone as the second biggest jerk with a twitter account. keith Law still stands atop the summit.

  23. CompassRosy January 24th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Erin January 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    There’s a fake Heyman account?
    ========
    Apparently so (note the “n”)…

    JohnHeymanCBS
    Prince Fielder to the #Nationals is official. 8 year deal.

    _______

    now this..
    StoneLarry
    This is the real Tim Brown. RT @TBrownYahoo: Source: Prince is very close to 9-year contract with the Detroit Tigers, according to sources.

  24. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    “It wasn’t too long ago many were saying that A-Rod’s (among others) contract would not have an effect on the way they do business.”

    Most said otherwise, and more importantly, only the suits that run the team agreed to the stupid deal.

  25. CompassRosy January 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    StoneLarry
    The classic Scott Boras mystery team emerges

  26. Ys Guy January 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    wow the tigers! they need to replace vmart, but 9 years? i find it hard to believe that teams keep signing these super long contracts despite the serious risk. good for the tigers it true.

  27. pat January 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Prince close to deal with Tigers?

  28. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    They say Fielder close on 9 year deal with Tigers. I guess Nats and Tigers going at it and Tigers offered a 9th year? Expensive DH. Because Cabrera has proven he stinks elsewhere in the field.

  29. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    OMG….that sucks.

  30. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    CompassRosy-

    Look at these homerun 2011 stats per ballpark.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/p.....t/HRFactor

    Safeco was #13 out of 30, with AT&T in SF last. I see where the LF line is 331 that quickly goes to 390 and 327 down the RF line that goes to 387.

    Smoak hit 10 of his 15 homers there. What makes Safeco a pitchers park, and will Montero be able to go the other way and hit them out in right?

  31. Ys Guy January 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    i think the angels are going to be hurt badly on the back end of pujols’ contract and if this one is true i think the tigers are going to regret the end of this one.

  32. CompassRosy January 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Apparently so (note the “n”)…
    ===========

    I meant “h”

  33. ac1 January 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Dont the tigers already have a power hitting first baseman?

  34. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    We should know by know….its always the mystery team. I guess the Tigers don’t have a problem paying a lot for a DH. :(

  35. stuckey January 24th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Wow (if true)…

    I will never doubt Boras again.

    I will never doubt Boras again.

    I will never doubt Boras again.

    I will never doubt Boras again.

    I will never doubt Boras again.

    I will never doubt Boras again.

  36. pat January 24th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    9/$214M

  37. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Prince to Detroit makes for an extremely slow offense on the bases. Just keep these guys in the park, and pitch around ‘em when possible. A station-to-station offense just don’t cut it.

  38. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 4m price deal is $214M, 9 yrs. #tigers

    Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 4m fielder gets 9 yrs, $200_plus mil. @TBrownYahoo said close

    This blows…..no rotating DHs in Detroit. :(

  39. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    Boras does always seem to get the big boys money…..

  40. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    If that’s true, does Fielder move back to 1st upon Martinez’s return with Cabrera going to 3rd?

    I don’t see Fielder wanting to DH for 9 years and become a FA again at age 36 when his only position will be DH again.

    Tigers scored 787 runs last year, 4th in AL behind Boston, NYY, Texas.

  41. Ys Guy January 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    so prince has landed and you can bet that that means the rangers keep hamilton.

  42. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    $214 for 9 years?

    This is arguably Boras’ all time best. Better even than the time he got Rodriguez $275M plus incenetives as the Yankees “punishment” for opting out of his Texas deal in ’07.

  43. Captain Clutch January 24th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Wow that is going to be a terrible contract for the Tigers. 9 years is crazy…

  44. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Lotta $$$ thrown around this offseason.

  45. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    is baseballprospectus dead for anyone else?

  46. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    9 years $214 ………………… yikes

  47. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    214M or 23.78M/year.

    Wonder if he got the Boras standard opt out clause?

  48. stuckey January 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Is Detroit chasing a TV deal?

  49. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Well, this explains the groans of despair I just heard coming from White Sox Guy’s cubicle. ;)

  50. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Tex 8 years and $180 is suddenly looking not so bad.

  51. Benny Blanco January 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Well, the tigers went for it!!! WOW! miggy and the prince??!! Ooooooweee!!!

  52. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Let me get this straight…
    Miggy signed until 2015
    V-Mart signed until 2014
    Fielder signed until 2020

    For… 2 positions? 1B and DH?
    Are they going to pretend Miggy can play 3B again?

  53. kd January 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    if i were a ball player, i’d hire boras.

    9/214 is just plain crazy. he might start to deteriorate in a few seasons like his dad. and now cabrera has to be full time dh. what happens when they get vmart back?

    but they do have the best 3-4 hitters in baseball now. they’re not going to be fun to play

  54. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    All this in the middle of a horrible US economy????

  55. sammiejohnson January 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    I was countin’ on The Freak chuckin’ for us come Sept.

    ____________________________

    Probably not one of your better predictions……

  56. G. Love January 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    It’s a great move for the Tigers. They value the bat more than the misguided myth here that there is nowhere to play plus bats. They’ll work it out with Prince and Miggy sharing 1b and DH and Miggy maybe even playing some 3b. When Victor comes back they can catch him or DH him and still keep all 3 bats in the lineup. It hurts defense but their offense will make it up for it.

    A 3-4 of Cabrera and Fielder is pretty amazing. It’s a bit better than what we would have had with a 3-4 of Cano and Fielder.

    Tigers bring back Cecil’s son to the hometown team. That’s pretty cool for Detroit and kind of makes me smile. I just hope they don’t beat us in the playoffs again and I’m glad he’s not on the Rangers.

  57. pat January 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Heyman reporting Prince gets 1B with Miggy changing positions.

  58. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    For… 2 positions? 1B and DH?

    ======================

    Don’t really have to worry about it this year, but from that point on, it’ll be interesting.

  59. stuckey January 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Well, if there is one thing we can take away from the Fielder move [insert random, redundant criticism of the Jesus Montero trade].

    No doubt about it.

  60. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    BryanHoch Interesting note: Jorge Posada said he would have continued playing if he were 9 or fewer HRs from 300. He retires with 275.

  61. RMS January 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Prince to Detroit makes for an extremely slow offense on the bases. Just keep these guys in the park, and pitch around ‘em when possible. A station-to-station offense just don’t cut it.
    ——————————————————————————————
    Good luck trying to pitch around back to back hitters.

    Captain Clutch
    Wow that is going to be a terrible contract for the Tigers. 9 years is crazy…
    ————————————————————————–
    Is it worse than Arod’s contract?

  62. kd January 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Joe Casale @sportsJC16

    Scott Boras once again found one dumb owner. Great deal for Prince. Not sure how it makes the Tigers markedly better over the long term.

  63. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Again, just keep ‘em in the park. The quagmire on the bases will choke ‘em off.

  64. pat January 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Jorge on WFAN

  65. Felix Unger January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    More pressure on the NYY with the Prince landing in Detroit. Miggy, Prince, Martinez (when he comes back) Avila, D. Young, Peralta. pretty good lineup with a pretty good pitching staff.

    So Prince will be a FT DH with Miggy at 1B ?

  66. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    - Sammie-
    Agreed. But I’m still swingin’ from the heels in spite of the K.

  67. UnKnown January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Holy Smokes on this news. The Central Division is a wrap.

  68. kd January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Yankees @YankeeSource

    With the Fielder signing, one more team falls out of the Cespedes race. Marlins probably have the best chance at him now.

    Time for the yanks to sweep in and sign both cubans

  69. Felix Unger January 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Jorge on WFAN now.

  70. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Not only a bad economy, but in Detriot? All the issues around the auto industry. This all seems like a team heading towards a financial problem at some point in the not too distant future. And now they have two overweight hitters who will start to break down physically if they don’t shape up. Youth can only overcome so much.

  71. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Tex 8 years and $180 is suddenly looking not so bad.

    Uh yes it is. Tex is getting worse a lot sooner than most expected

  72. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Its a crazy contract……but short term it stinks for the Yanks. Detroit now easily has the best 3/4 combo in baseball ans one of the better rotations as well…..its probably better than him signing with Texas…..but not much.

    Where is Cabrera going to play? He will have to DH right?

  73. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    This is what happens when teams are so far under the luxury tax threholds, raking in money, that they can absorb these contracts.

    It didn’t work for lefty Dunn last year, so Erin, maybe your WS fan at work can take some solace in that. :)

  74. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Cabrera/Fielder/Martinez(when healthy) is an ABSURD middle of the lineup. But I don’t see how you can get all 3 of them in the same lineup. Cabrera at 3B or Martinez behind the plate? Both are embarrassingly bad.

  75. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    blake – I think Miggy is a better first-baseman than Fielder… but that’s a twit race if I’ve ever seen one.

  76. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    DKnobler MLB announces Tony La Russa will manage NL All-Stars

  77. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Cabrera used to be a 3rd baseman, however not a very good one.

  78. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    - Phranshise-
    Good point about the Detroit economy. Though I do enjoy watching “Hard Core Pawn”.

  79. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Tex has a sub par season and he is suddenly bad. The guy is 31 not late 30s or something. This isn’t a physical breakdown thing, this is a bad season. And one where he revamped his workout habbits going into the season to try and promote a better start as he has always been notoriously a late starter.

  80. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    They move Miggy back to 3B and the defense suffers along with the team speed on the bases.

  81. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Miggy played 3B about 30 lbs ago…..I don’t think he can play anywhere but 1B or DH…..especially in Comerica.

  82. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Fielder is a slight upgrade if anything to the ridiculous season V Mart had in the clutch for them last year. It’s a high profile sick combo, but let’s be real, the Tigers got marginally better for next year. No difference than the overreaction to the Sox getting Crawford and A Gone but omitting that they lost V Mart and Beltre. Net net, it isn’t drastically different.

  83. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    They move Miggy back to 3B and the defense suffers along with the team speed on the bases

    ====================================

    Team speed no different than last year. Simply replacing the very slow V. Martinez with the similarly slow Fielder.

  84. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Tex has a sub par season and he is suddenly bad. The guy is 31 not late 30s or something. This isn’t a physical breakdown thing, this is a bad season. And one where he revamped his workout habbits going into the season to try and promote a better start as he has always been notoriously a late starter.

    I would agree if this was the only bad season. But over the last 4 years there is an obvious downward trend.

    2008: .308/.410/.552
    2009: .292/.383/.565
    2010: .256/.365/.481
    2011: .248/.341/.494

    Very troubling

  85. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    TEX hit 39 HR’s and knocked in 111. You guys are talkin’ like the Titanic sunk. Stop the Chicken Little routine.

  86. Nick in SF January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Lincecum was going to be a Yankee by September?

    No wonder the Tigers went all-in on Prince Fielder.

  87. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    What are they going to do when Vmart comes back and they have three guys who should be DHing? Its a kinda weird signing …….and kinda short sided…..it’ll make the Tigers good in 2012 though

  88. Yankee Trader January 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    His dad played 7 years for the Tigers, before becoming a Yankee, so maybe at age 34 he’ll be DH for the Yankees? :)

  89. UnKnown January 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    The “Mystery Team” keeps getting the best players. First Lee, then Pujols, and now Prince. They are pretty good.

  90. G. Love January 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Posada outhit Tex and Swisher against RHP last season and lost his job as primary DH.

    I think there is more than enough reason to be concerned about what remains on offense.

  91. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    What are they going to do when Vmart comes back and they have three guys who should be DHing? Its a kinda weird signing …….and kinda short sided…..it’ll make the Tigers good in 2012 though

    Well they could just trade Victor Martinez ( havent looked if he has a NT or anything). Or entertain Miggy in LF or 3B.

  92. Felix Unger January 24th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    The Detroit economy really has nothing to do with Mike Illich who owns the Tigers and Red Wings and at one point was looking to buy the Pistons as well. He is worth almost $ 2 billion dollars and is in a league by himself in Detroit.

  93. kd January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1

    If V-Mart back healthy in ’13, #Tigers could try trading Miggy with 3 yrs, $63M left (2013-15) Bet new #Dodgers owner would be interested

    interesting thought. at those prices, a lot of teams would be interested.

  94. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    “Well they could just trade Victor Martinez ( havent looked if he has a NT or anything). Or entertain Miggy in LF or 3B.”

    They coukd entertain it….but Miggy has gained some lbs since he played somewhere else….that would likely be ugly.

    Crazy contract…..

  95. PacoDooley January 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Ys Guy January 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    wasn’t he under control till 2014 anyway? they just agreed to a set figure as opposed to going through arbitration twice instead?
    “““““““““““““`

    Yes, this was completely a buy out the option years deal from what I understand. SF must have been scared that he could ask for a lot more next year, because they are basically paying what he asked for in arbitration this year. I have no idea what their motivation was to sign that deal.

  96. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Well they could just trade Victor Martinez ( havent looked if he has a NT or anything). Or entertain Miggy in LF or 3B

    =========================

    Could trade Cabrera too. He’ll have 3 years/$62M left on is deal. Still young. He’d draw some interest.

  97. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    CDickerson_PFTP Chris Dickerson
    It’s been agreed after today’s football toss around @NickSwisher could have buried the 32 yarder missed by Billy Cundiff. #swishalishious

  98. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    - Doggy -
    I’m looking at Martinez\team speed, making it back by Sept at the latest. The DH Slot doesn’t require a lot.

  99. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    If V-Mart back healthy in ’13, #Tigers could try trading Miggy with 3 yrs, $63M left (2013-15) Bet new #Dodgers owner would be interested

    So would everybody.

  100. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    That 3/4 of Cabrera/Fielder is like Manny and Ortiz back in 2004.. so sick. Arguably even better

  101. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Tex Gold Glove every year

    2008 wasn’t even on the Yankees.

    2009 39 homers 122 rbis 81 walks 114 ks
    2010 33 homers 108 rbis 93 walks 122 ks
    2011 39 homers 111 rbis 76 walks 110 ks

    So he isn’t hitting for average, or below his career. The production is still there.

  102. kd January 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    patrick,

    and presumably steroid free. unlike the red sox duo

  103. Wave Your Hat January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    My guess is Cabrera to third, Fielder to first, and don’t sweat the defense.

    The Tigers won’t be a good matchup in Game 1 with Verlander on the mound and Cabrera and Fielder in the lineup.

  104. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    I still can’t see why SF gave The Freak $40 Mill And he can still go free agent in 2 yrs. SF shoulda bought him outta free agency if they were gonna spend that kinda jack.

  105. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    So he isn’t hitting for average

    Without the average his total on base suffers because he doesnt walk enough to offset it. He walks a lot, which made his OBP beastly with a high average, but with a low one its not really that good. Low average also dragging his slugging under .500.

  106. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    It’s been agreed after today’s football toss around @NickSwisher could have buried the 32 yarder missed by Billy Cundiff.

    ==============================

    As long as he wasn’t asked to kick it in October.

  107. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Much better team around Manny\Ortiz, than the Tigers are fielding in 2012.

  108. Captain Clutch January 24th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    This signing will confuse Cashman. The man who doesn’t believe in letting a great bat be the DH. Too bad the Yanks DH was just traded for a prospect.

  109. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Id rather have Cabrera longterm than Prince though…..he’s better……

  110. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Tex Gold Glove every year

    2008 wasn’t even on the Yankees.

    2009 39 homers 122 rbis 81 walks 114 ks
    2010 33 homers 108 rbis 93 walks 122 ks
    2011 39 homers 111 rbis 76 walks 110 ks

    So he isn’t hitting for average, or below his career. The production is still there.

    —-

    Doesn’t matter if he was on the Yankees or not. I’m establishing a 4 year downward trend. Added the extra year because it gives more credence to my argument that Tex is getting worse and worse every year after hitting his peak in 2008.

    Quoting HR and RBI’s means nothing when his average, obp and slugging are all getting worse

  111. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    I still can’t see why SF gave The Freak $40 Mill And he can still go free agent in 2 yrs. SF shoulda bought him outta free agency if they were gonna spend that kinda jack.

    ?? They have him under control for 2 more years. Why would they get rid of one of the best pitchers in baseball when they can afford to spend 20 mil for him? They get 2 more years and dont have to worry about injury or ineffectiveness long term. Its smart to buy him out of the last 2 years because he was going to chainsaw murder them in arbitration.

  112. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Much better team around Manny\Ortiz, than the Tigers are fielding in 2012.

    And what’s your point?

  113. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    “My guess is Cabrera to third, Fielder to first, and don’t sweat the defense.”

    Probably so…..

  114. CompassRosy January 24th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Erin January 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Well, this explains the groans of despair I just heard coming from White Sox Guy’s cubicle.
    =======

    :-)

    that reminds me, I’ll have to check in with the resident WS fan here….

  115. stuckey January 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    “So would everybody.”

    Wonder who might make for a good trade partner?

    Maybe a team in need of a DH with lots of major league ready young pitching to spare?

  116. CB January 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    “That 3/4 of Cabrera/Fielder is like Manny and Ortiz back in 2004.. so sick. Arguably even better”

    DH’s don’t matter. They aren’t valuable. There’s nothing to worry about.

    Crazy deal from the Tigers. Flags fly forever. Ilitch sees a window and wants to bring a championship to detroit. I’m sure they know they’ll regret it later – but it’s a short term play.

    In a year where the Sox and Yanks are constraining spending – makes sense in a certain way.

    That’s an impossible 3-4 to pitch to.

    Contracts like these just remind you of how much money has flooded the game. Its mind boggling. People really don’t have a good sense for how much money is concentrated in such a small industry.

    It’s why the players aren’t grossly “overpayed” and why cries of poverty from ownership are most often hollow.

    And the person who really knows that is Boras. Phenomenal job for his client.

    This a year after Jason Werth. A year after Crawford and Dunn were disasters.

  117. Nick in SF January 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    SF shouldda oughtta whatta?

    They offered him a 5 year deal.

    He countered with asking for 8.

    They’re probably going to pay him a little less now than he would have — sorry, than he wouldda — gotten with two single-year deals.

  118. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    - JERKY -
    SF had him under control for the next 2 yrs whether they made this deal or not. So what are they going to give Cain now? Any of you Stat Heads know how Cain stacks up to Fister?

  119. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    2008 .357 .462 .653
    2009 .327 .443 .658
    2010 .312 .414 .596
    2011 .299 .366 .541

    That’s a down trend to.

    That’s Albert Pujlous.

    I’ll take the homers and production he has any day.

  120. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    - Pat -
    Comparison was made of Manny\Ortiz vs Prince\Miggy.

  121. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    I still can’t see why SF gave The Freak $40 Mill And he can still go free agent in 2 yrs. SF shoulda bought him outta free agency if they were gonna spend that kinda jack.

    ==========================

    Don’t see how it hurts them. If they went to arb with him twice, they spend that money anyway.

  122. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    SF had him under control for the next 2 yrs whether they made this deal or not.

    Except at greatly increasing costs. Tim was going to win arbitration this year and the next for even more money. Thats why its a smart deal. He won’t accept a 5 year deal and thats the max SF is willing to go.

  123. Captain Clutch January 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    The Yanks are lucky that the Sox are such a mess because the Angels and Tigers have really improved. The Rangers are also going to be tough. Cashman has to get the Yanks a bat to DH.

  124. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    - NICK -
    Key word being “probably”. If I was gonna shell out that kinda $$$, I gotta get some of The Freak’s free agent years included. 6yr deal woulda been a good compromise.

  125. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Does this mean we can trade AJ for Cabrera?

  126. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    - Doggy -
    So why Guarantee it Now????

  127. dogface January 24th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    SF had him under control for the next 2 yrs whether they made this deal or not

    ================================

    Giants Arb number was $17M. Lincecum’s was $21M. He wasn’t getting less than $17M this year no matter what and assuming good health would be in the low $20′s next year. This deal is $18M for this year and $22M for next. It was the right thing to do.

  128. Nick in SF January 24th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Donny, I too would like to live in a world in which I can get whatever I want without leverage.

    What color is the sky in your magical world?

  129. Joe from Long Island January 24th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    CB – the game does bring in an awful lot of money. that’s why i was really perplexed as to why the pa would countenance that luxury tax deal, and a harder line on draft contracts. no wonder they were all so friendly with michael weiner when the deal was announced.

  130. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Cashman has to get the Yanks a bat to DH.

    Why?

  131. kd January 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    guess texas will sign hamilton now

    who is the next great outfielder to hit free agency?

    gotta sign those cubans

  132. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Why?

    Because right now the Yanks DH vs RHP is going to suck and the Yankees should never punt a lineup spot.

  133. Phranchise January 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Because I wasn’t thinking about it. How cool is it for the Tigers to have Fielder Sr and Jr playing for them. That is pretty neat when you think about it. Another nice pitch Boras had I am sure.

  134. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    jerkface – they risked the extra… what.. $5-$6mil he would have earned in arb? on him not getting injured for 2 seasons… not outrageous but not completely brilliant either.

  135. CB January 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    The Giants get cost certainty on Lincecum the next two seasons and also avoid potentially nasty arbitration hearings on a player they will still likely want to try to sign long term.

    However, they aren’t saving much money and have lost the protection the arbitration process offers teams with respect to injury.

    Not sure if the cost certainty was worth the risk they absorbed but probably not that major an issue.

    Great deal for Lincecum though. He’s now easily guaranteed himself enough money to set himself up for a lifetime. That frees him to hit the market unencumbered and look to maximize his overall earning potential.

    Lincecum and his dad have talked for a long time about how much they believe in his mechanics and how those mechanics protect him from injury.

    That may or may not be true – this could be good fortune or genetics – but they certainly put their money where their mouths were so to speak by going year to year in the arbitration process. They were willing to take the risk and maximized how much me could make while SF had “control” of him.

    Stark contrast to say Matt Moore and the Rays. What a deal for them. Even if Moore has 1-2 good years the deal will almost pay for itself.

  136. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    jerkface – Because right now the Yanks DH vs RHP is going to suck and the Yankees should never punt a lineup spot.

    They aren’t punting it, and they aren’t paying it $15mil either. Best of both worlds.

  137. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    They aren’t punting it, and they aren’t paying it $15mil either.

    Right now DH is punted vs RHP.

  138. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    no it isn’t. it’s not “punted” until the offseason is over pal.

    rome wasn’t built in a day.

  139. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    REGARDLESS jerkface, Fielder’s signing doesn’t make the Yankee’s signing a DH thta can hit RHP any more important. I’m not debating the DH spot with you all freakin’ season.

  140. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    no it isn’t. it’s not “punted” until the offseason is over pal.

    Uh you just asked ‘Why’ when someone said the Yankees need to go get a DH? And now you’re saying the position isnt punted because they are going to go get a DH???? You’re not making sense. Until Cashman does something for DH vs RHP its a blackhole. I think he will do something, eventually. But you’re the one that asked ‘Why does Cashman need to get a DH’?

  141. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Maybe you shouldn’t try to jump into every single conversation?

  142. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Miggy and Prince back to back??

    Holy sh*t. That’s Manny-Ortiz level.

  143. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Maybe you shouldn’t post on a public blog comment section?

  144. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    no it isn’t. it’s not “punted” until the offseason is over pal.

    That’s why he said RIGHT NOW DH is punted vs RHP.

    Right now we have Andruw Jones DHing vs RHP. That is punting it

  145. sammiejohnson January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    I would like to know the details of Prince/Tiger’s deal, opt-out and NTC.

  146. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    2011 OPS +

    Tigers: 110
    Yankees: 106

  147. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Great patrick, wasn’t talking to him or about “right now” SO moving on…

  148. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Holy sh*t. That’s Manny-Ortiz level.

    And the great thing is.. Fielder will be 28 this year. Cabrera will be 29.

    Going to be nasty for awhile

  149. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Why would the Tigers sign Prince just to trade the best hitter in baseball a year later?

  150. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Dlauraposada Thank you to the Yankees and the fans for making today so special; we will never forget this day!

  151. blake January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    CB,

    I agree…..the Tigers are going for it clearly while they have Verlander and Cabrera in their primes. That team is gonna be really good short term…..I didn’t want Prince to wind up in Texas……with regards to being an obstacle for the Yanks reaching the WS this is almost as bad…..

  152. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Great patrick, wasn’t talking to him or about “right now” SO moving on…

    Lol what yes you were

  153. Patrick January 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Why would the Tigers sign Prince just to trade the best hitter in baseball a year later?

    They woudln’t, that’s not going to happen.

  154. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Great patrick, wasn’t talking to him or about “right now” SO moving on…

    -

    Captain Clutch said the Yankees need to go sign a DH because the rest of the AL is tough. You asked Why? I said because the position is bad right now (which is true). Then you said but it wont be bad forever because they’ll sign a DH! Thus proving how you tripped over your own feet. You werent even having a conversation, you replied with 1 word to part of a statement Captain Clutch said which wasnt even directed to you!

    I see what you’re up to, sneak-thief.

  155. blake January 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    “Why would the Tigers sign Prince just to trade the best hitter in baseball a year later?”

    Yea im not sure they are planning on trading Cabrera……I doubt they are any time soon.

  156. djsunyc January 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    the team that won the world series didn’t have a lineup as good as the top 4/5 american league teams.

    it comes down to who’s getting the big hits at the time.

    cano + tex + arod underperformed in our series. it’s on them to step up. we are paying them to be the offensive stars.

  157. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    patrick -no, actually… i was responding to captain clutch above, and jerkface decided to rehash his DH nonsense gain… like I forgot since yesterday.

    nice reading comprehension. amybe if the two of you weren’t trying to be so quick to jump on people, you’d be able to follow this.

  158. blake January 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Both fake insiders were wrong this time…..neither Scott Swaim or incarcerated Bob guessed right

  159. G. Love January 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Until the Yankees sign a DH or backup for Arod who can hit better than Nunez, they are punting the DH since if Arod or Jeter DH’s, Nunez starts and the lineup suffers.

    I love Nunez, but if the plan is to play him 500 at bats and give Arod and Jeter tons of DH time against RHP we’re in trouble unless Texeira and Swisher have some kind of offensive awakening against RHP.

    They need a big stick to face RHP in the DH spot.

  160. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Ibanez
    Damon
    Matsui
    Vladdy

    I actually had Jorge as the best option against righties. I’d probably take Damon if it has to be one of them. Maybe Erica would come back? But you can see why Cash is talking about a trade to fill that spot.

  161. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    patrick -no, actually… i was responding to captain clutch above, and jerkface decided to rehash his DH nonsense gain… like I forgot since yesterday.

    But the points are all valid and you are weakly trying to dodge it while also asserting that the Yankees WILL improve the DH by the end of the offseason? You messed up, its ok.

  162. G. Love January 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    For the record, fake Peter Gammons is never wrong.

  163. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    jerkface – I’m not trying to weakly dodge anything, we’ve gone over this for a solid week now. I see no reason to go over it again today.

  164. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Did you think Captain Clutch said the Yankees need a DH for no reason because its perfectly fine vs RHP at the moment? Doubt it!

  165. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    We’re not talking about week old arguments, we’re talking about what you said right now and why it is funny that you’ve tried to argue 2 things at once while maintaining snark even though you’re clearly wrong.

  166. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    jerkface – the points are hardly valid. If Andruw Jones bats .247/.356/.495 as the DH… the Yankee offense will live. I simply don’t care that you feel the need to overspend on every position in the lineup.

  167. PacoDooley January 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Better to see Fielder go to Detroit than Texas, but with their pitching and that 1-2 punch, that Tigers team is going to be a force. Why couldn’t he give it a go with those losers in DC?

  168. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    . If Andruw Jones bats .247/.356/.495 as the DH

    Cool you’ve posted his platoon line! This includes 76 PA vs RHB, we both know he would not hit this as the full time DH so please, continue back peddling.

  169. Captain Clutch January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    If Tex and Arod continue to decline the lineup isn’t going to be a strength. Granderson and Cano are going to be asked to do too much just like last year. The lineup is still good but not like it used to be. Hopefully Cashman is working on something instead of continuing to say it’s a strength and making it seem like losing Montero isn’t a big deal.

  170. CB January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    The Tigers are going to generate huge marginal advantage from that DH spot. The only player remotely close to his production at the DH spot was Ortiz.

    Day in and out the tigers will have a major advantage over every team they play for the entirety of the season.

    The deal will work out badly long term. Everyone knows that. Illitch knows that.

    But for the next 3-4 seasons – they are going to be unpitchable through that middle of the order.

    And I don’t think they are going to trade Cabrera. There’s almost no way to find a bat like that anymore. They’ll just punt defense and do what most businesses do – make the best of an imperfect situation and the resources they have at hand.

    It’s hard to find truly elite bats in the game. Detroit now has two of them.

  171. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    jerkface – we both know he’s not going to hit vs RHP at all so what on earth are you talking about? did you forget to take your pills today? Jones LHP splits along with RHP splits from A-Rod/Teixeira/whoever will be PERFECTLY FINE as the DH.

    Spending any major resources on that menial position is a waste of time.

  172. blake January 24th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    “For the record, fake Peter Gammons is never wrong.”

    :) where is hank….he would have never let this happen.

  173. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    I notice fake Gammons is being featured on the It Is High…. blog.

    That’s hot.

  174. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    jerkface – we both know he’s not going to hit vs RHP at all so what on earth are you talking about? did you forget to take your pills today? Jones LHP splits along with RHP splits from A-Rod/Teixeira/whoever will be PERFECTLY FINE as the DH.

    No it won’t because your inclusion of A-rod/Tex/whoever ISN’T the problem. Its the extra 400 PA you’re giving to Eduordo Nunez! Right now Nunez is the DH vs RHP. That needs to change. And you have said yourself that the offseason isnt over and they will probably get a LHB, WHICH WAS THE POINT.

  175. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    jerkface – Nunez is not getting 400PA as the DH, guess again.

  176. G. Love January 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    I would take Damon, Matsui or Vlad at DH at this point. They all lengthen the lineup in their own ways.

    The only plus with Damon is you can throw him out in the field if need be. Just pray he doesn’t have to make a game saving throw.

    If Cashman’s plan is to trade AJ for a DH then we’re looking at 5 players; Carlos Lee, Adam Dunn, Alex Rios, Jason Bay and Soriano.

    Don’t see Lee happening as the Astros and AJ won’t want one another.

    I can see AJ going to the White Sox for Dunn if Ventura can convince AJ to come there. Don’t think the Yankees would take on Rios or Alfonso Soriano.

    As for Jason Bay I would do it if he waived the plate appearance option year kicking in thing Omar gave him. Doubt he would do that though since if the Mets play him and he’s healthy he’ll get that option on his own.

    If DH is about moving AJ, maybe Dunn is the guy.

    I don’t see them trading Nova or Hughes for a DH bat.

  177. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    jerkface – Nunez is not getting 400PA as the DH, guess again.

    Oh ok so who is DHing vs RHP right now?

  178. G. Love January 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Jeers, is that true? I didn’t even know. Someone wrote me claiming on behalf of the real Gammons and asked me to stop so I knew I was getting under people’s skin.

  179. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    G. Love,

    Interesting take. But I do see either Hughes or AJ being moved.

  180. 108 stitches January 24th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Be thankful that Detroit is in the Central Division. A few regular season series playing the Tigers is enough. The postseason ? Assuming they get there, the Yankees will deal with it then.

  181. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Montero :(

    http://twitpic.com/8b9knh

  182. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Young Prince Fielder

    https://twitter.com/#!/si_vault/status/161915348482916354/photo/1

  183. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    jerkface – vazquez? laird? A-rod? One of those Cubans? I have no idea, because the offseason isn’t over on January 24th and we have no idea what kids have progressed that may be able to take on the role or what the team has actually planned to begin with.

    Why would you assume Nunez is going to be the DH vs RHP? The only reason Nunez is on the 25 man roster is because he backs up SS and 3B and he wasn’t supposed to be a defensive embarrassment like he was last year. There isn’t a single bat at AAA that could hit RHP better than Nunez? I find that hard to believe.

    Detroit signing Fielder and LA signing Pujols didn’t make it any more important for the Yankees to panic and spend money on a DH. It made their pitching staff much more important though.

  184. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    jonmorosi Jon Morosi
    #Tigers had Miguel Cabrera get into shape to play third base, just in case, source says. Fielder 1B/DH, Cabrera 1B/3B/DH

  185. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Young Prince looks exactly like the fat kid in Hook. Bangerang…

  186. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    jerkface – vazquez? laird? A-rod? One of those Cubans? I have no idea, because the offseason isn’t over on January 24th and we have no idea what kids have progressed that may be able to take on the role or what the team has actually planned to begin with.

    Laird? He cant even OB over .300 in AAA and is a righty. Vazquez can BARELY OB over .300 in AAA and is a righty. One of the cubans? The 19 year old one or the older RIGHT HANDED one? A-rod? So you mean NUNEZ is the DH there because its not like A-rod can hit at third and DH right?

  187. Bret The Hitman January 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    CC Sabathia
    Cole Hamels
    Michael Pineda
    Ivan Nova
    Manny Banuelos

  188. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
    heard cabrera is excited to welcome #prince, doesn’t mind moving to 3b. #tigers

  189. sammiejohnson January 24th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Heyman via twitter

    “there is no opt out in #prince deal.”

  190. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Centipedes can be the Designated Fastball Hitter. Just make sure he’s not in the lineup vs any pitcher that throws a breaking ball.

  191. yankeefeminista January 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    More good news: “Several reports indicate that the Marlins are committed to outbidding anyone who stands in their way of landing recently defected Cuban star Yoennis Cespedes once the MLB declares him a free agent. It makes sense. Not only would Cespedes be the cherry atop the Marlin’s new talent sundae, but the slugging center fielder’s backstory would also peak interest among locals.”

    http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com.....to_lan.php

  192. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    jerkface – so it is your belief… your statement right now that there is not a single batter in AAA for the Yankees that can’t manage better than a .320 OBP vs RHP in the majors?

  193. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    G Love

    Yes. You’re in the 2 spot right under Fake Sterling.

    A cease & desist from old greytooth himself would be like a HOF induction. Keep up the great work!

  194. austinmac January 24th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    The Tigers signing Prince eliminates them for Damon. The Rays are also likely out. He is looking like the best option of the free agents to me. Damon and Chavez.

  195. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    your statement right now that there is not a single batter in AAA for the Yankees that can’t manage better than a .320 OBP vs RHP in the majors?

    Yup. Certainly not to open the season. We have no one in AAA that is going to be an average or above average major league hitter vs right handed pitching in 2012. Look at the roster. Everyone is terrible AND right handed.

  196. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Young Prince looks exactly like the fat kid in Hook. Bangerang…

    ——————

    Did you know the pirate in Hook that was sent to the Boo-Box was played by Glenn Close? Facts people. I’m hitting you with them.

  197. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Yet another reason why trading Montero was baseball-goofy.

  198. LGY January 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    jerkface – so it is your belief… your statement right now that there is not a single batter in AAA for the Yankees that can’t manage better than a .320 OBP vs RHP in the majors?

    ————–

    Who do you think could that?

  199. Bronx Jeers January 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Tigers had Miguel Cabrera get into shape to play third base, just in case, source says.

    ———————-

    How does that work?

    “Hey, you better get into shape cause we’re signing someone even fatter than you”

  200. yankeefeminista January 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Agree, no one in AAA will OBP .320+. So that means we have to go out and get a bat by trading elite prospects again because we just traded away our elite hitting DH.

    Do we know that Cespedes recent hitting has only been vs. fastballs?

  201. spidanyc January 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Blue Jays and Francisco Cordero have agreed to a one-year, $4.5 million contract, pending a physical.
    ————————————————————————————————-

    Great job by Yankee brass giving Rafael Soriano a 3 year $39 million deal last year!

  202. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    These are the 2 guys DHing (by this I mean they enter the lineup vs RHP regardless of how the defensive positions are arranged) vs RHP at the moment:

    .259 .313 .360 .673
    .172 .303 .406 .709

    AND NO ONE IN AAA IS GOING TO BEAT THIS. Thats the funny part. And why trading Montero was dumb.

  203. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    yf

    You’d be a better than GM than Cashman. I’m serious.

  204. yankeefeminista January 24th, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Rich, so would you.

  205. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    NickSwisher Thank u Jorge for all you’ve done for the Yankees. You’re a true class act & we’ll miss u in the clubhouse & out on the field! #HipHipJorge

  206. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    At least I know what I don’t know! ;)

  207. austinmac January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    I agree with Jerkface that the Yankees do not have anyone–at any level–who could currently have an OBP of.320 in the majors. Sad, but true.

    I do believe I would bunt with Cabrera at third.

  208. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    Young Prince looks exactly like the fat kid in Hook. Bangerang?

    **************

    OMG, he totally does. :lol:

  209. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Is Parraz an option? I don’t know squat about him but the numbers and splits look right.

  210. yankeefeminista January 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Rich, better to know what you don’t know than to think you know what you don’t know. (I think Yogi said that. ;) )

  211. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Where as I think we have 3 pitchers in AAA who could enter the rotation out of spring and be league average or better. Position of strength!

  212. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Did you know the pirate in Hook that was sent to the Boo-Box was played by Glenn Close? Facts people. I?m hitting you with them.

    ****************

    Seriously? That’s awesome. Everytime that movie comes on TV I have to drop everything and watch. It’s addicting. lol

  213. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    jerkface – 2008 called and said don’t call up your AAA pitchers too early. Not sure if you got that message.

  214. Jerkface January 24th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    jerkface – 2008 called and said don’t call up your AAA pitchers too early. Not sure if you got that message.

    2012 called and said “lmao look at this idiot that doesnt know that Adam Warren, David Phelps, and DJ Mitchell have thrown like 500 innings each”

  215. G. Love January 24th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Jeers,

    If I get a cease and desist from Gammons I will autograph a copy and send it to you.

  216. jacksquat January 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    AJ for Hafner. Make it happen.

  217. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    ROFL OK…

    Warren/Mitchell/Phelps are not ready to be called and are NOT ready to be league average starters. are you for real?

  218. Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    one half of the platoon split for the least important position in your lineup, or a starting pitcher… man that’s such a tough choice.

  219. Erin January 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    New Post- In their words: Friends and teammates congratulate Posada

    :arrow:

  220. Best To Ever Do It January 24th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    It’s hard to find truly elite bats in the game. Detroit now has two of them.
    ——————————-

    This can’t be right everyone on here says hitting is easy to obtain.

  221. Best To Ever Do It January 24th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Yet another reason why trading Montero was baseball-goofy.

    ———————————-

    Don’t worry they’ll get him back in 2017-2018

    signed
    Delusional fan

  222. ron January 24th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Damon against righties – .715 ops – .255 avg

    Matsui against righties – .654 ops – .242 avg

    Vlad against righties -.743 ops – .291 avg

    posada against righties – .814 ops – .269 avg

    eric chavez against righties – .687 ops – .255 avg

    montero against righties – .877 ops – .216 avg

    Nunez against righties – .673 ops – .259 avg.

    Damon,matsui,chavez,nunez, are not options at dh.
    At least not good ones.

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