The Jorge Posada retirement press conference
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2012 
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Everyone is settling in here at Yankee Stadium, all getting ready for Jorge Posada’s retirement press conference. I’ll try to use this post to file some updates along the way, but if you’re around a television, the YES Network is scheduled to televise the entire thing. You can also follow along on your computer at MLB.com. The press conference begins at 11 a.m. ET.
UPDATE, 10:52 a.m.: Brian Cashman just walked in with a few members of the front office. The head table has spots for Jorge, plus his wife and two kids. The past five World Series trophies are on display, Posada pictures are all around the room and the place is packed. Might be
more people here than at the Pettitte retirement press conference.
UPDATE, 11:11 a.m.: Joe Girardi, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera and CC Sabathia just walked in.
UPDATE, 11:13 a.m.: The Posadas have arrived. We’re getting started.
UPDATE, 11:14 a.m.: Hal Steinbrenner, Randy Levine, Lonn Trost and Willie Randolph are also here.
UPDATE, 11:16 a.m.: Posada: “I played baseball for the New York Yankees, and that’s all I could think of or dream of as a little kid.”
UPDATE, 11:18 a.m.: On the verge of tears throughout his opening statement, Posada finally started breaking down when thanking his parents. Followed with thanks for his wife and children for always making him smile.
UPDATE, 11:20 a.m.: Special thanks to Derek Jeter for helping him stay positive through this season. “Hopefully you won’t miss me that much,” Posada said.
UPDATE, 11:28 a.m.: Very nice comments from Thurman Munson’s wife, who said she’s loved two Yankees catchers in her life, and said Jorge is the reason she got back into baseball after her husband’s death.
UPDATE, 11:29 a.m.: Playing a video now with comments from fans and highlights from Posada’s career.
UPDATE, 11:48 p.m.: Posada said he never felt, in his head or heart, that he would want to play next season. He told his agents not to worry about getting offers. Sounds like the season ended with him fully expecting to retire.
UPDATE, 11:52 p.m.: Posada said he never felt really out of shape last season. He couldn’t keep up with the young guys, but he still felt good physically.
UPDATE, 12:03 p.m.: “Talking to my wife during the season and talking to Derek through the season, I knew that this was it. I told him and I told Laura that this was my last year, during the year.”
I knew I stayed home from work today for a reason.
Sad day.
I wonder if AJ and randy johnson show up?
I’d make him the manager, if he’s interested.
ID – I actually enjoyed the movie itself. I loved the cinematography and the playful nature of a lot of it. Overall, I’d say it was B+ (well above average but since when are B+ movies in the best picture category? And does anyone here feel Brad Pitt really stretched himself for that role to deserve a best actor’s nod?) but I wouldn’t think of it as one of the best sports movies ever (as it has been advertised and touted, I kid you not).
….Really wish I could see the presser. I hope they’re replaying it tonight.
and is it me or does Joba never seem like he’s working on getting back? Maybe he just doesn’t tweet about it, it’s always about some random TV show hes watching, or playing golf, which still baffles me after the surgery he had.
Jorge Posada was a great Yankee and should have his number retired.
If you try to rank the best Yankees catchers, here are some numbers:
Jorge hit almost as many HR (275) as Munson (113) and Howard (167) combined.
He has the highest OPS plus of the three. He drove in 303 more runs than Howard and 364 more than Thurman.
I would agree the others were superior defensively, but overall it’s very close.
Yogi, Dickey in that order without debate for # 1 and # 2.
Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 12:24 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees have to trade for a catcher within two years.
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Wouldn’t be surprised. I think ppl are a little to high on Romine.
The Yanks gotta bring him back as a coach, sooner or later. ( If he wants it )
Nothing but a WINNER ! Hip, Hip, Jorge!!!
Hip Hip Jorge!
Rich in NJ, Heck, I want them to sign Miguel Montero next offseason
Thanks Jorge! We’ll miss you.
too*
I sincerely hope MLB Network is carrying this since that’s what I set my DVR for.
Oh, the pains of being an out of market fan.
YES is showing it again at 6:30 PM.
It will be on YES again tonight at 6:30pm.
I bet they put most of it online too.
Shame-I thought Brad was excellent in Moneyball. IMO, he definitely deserved a nom (unlike Jonah Hill who’s a completely different story) I was a bit surprised that it’s nominated for Best Picture as well.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees have to trade for a catcher within two years.
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NAPOLI
I really don’t like Yankee PC’s. Way too dry.
George used to crack jokes.
Ahhh.. thanks Tom!
(Sometimes I vaguely wonder if I know people from the blog. For example: I know a Tom… from NJ. In fact, I know several. What if Tom in NJ is one of my Toms? I’m sorry guys I really don’t wanna work today…..)
These stories about the Posada-Girardi rift, make Girardi look bad. As if Girardi needs any help in that area.
Tom
If he reaches free agency, and he fits their austerity budget, they would be better than extending Martin beyond this season.
I don’t know anybody named Shame…
Erin – The problem I have with Brad Pitt is I think he’s fantastic in everything because… he’s Brad Pitt. But when I think about roles that have actually challenged him I think of stuff like 12 Monkeys, Seven, and Interview with a Vampire….. I don’t know that when I consider his best work I’ll ever think of Moneyball.
Its like Pacino’s victory for Scent of a Woman. When I think Pacino, I think Carlito’s Way, The Godfather, Dog Day Afternoon, etc…. but NEVER does Scent of a Woman come to mind lol.
LGY
Napoli in, Girardi out!
Tom – Lol, that’s probably for the best.
What if the Yankees groomed Jorge to take Girardi’s job …..again?
Brad Pitt should avoid Any role that requires an accent. He is absolutely Laughable in roles that require an accent.
i always liked posada, and i like girardi. they both have contributed greatly in their times with the yankees. it was obvious that they never got along, but who cares? they were both professional enough to get past it and do their jobs (with an occasional kerfuffle). you cant expect 25+ professional atheletes to get along.
Miguel Montero hit .308/.378/.526/.904 vs RHP last year. A LH power hitting catcher would be a great addition to the Yankees.
Oh, and he threw out 40% of would be base stealers…
DlauraposadaLaura Posada
Almost at yankee stadium
15 minutes ago
DlauraposadaLaura Posada
Just got here!!
5 minutes ago
Miguel would be a replacement Montero
Jorge should throw out first pitch on OD.
willwill January 24th, 2012 at 10:52 am
and is it me or does Joba never seem like he’s working on getting back?
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Joba is working out like a beast:
http://www.twitvid.com/SSXLW
imo posada is a little too lou-like to be an effective manager. lou has had success but more often became a distraction rather than an effective leader. i could see jorge being very similar as a manager. i have an open mind, but i’d have to see jorge manage somewhere else before i’d trust him at the Yankees helm.
F***, Girardi needs to disappear today.
Laura Posada looking fine as ever.
Rosenthal says that the Orioles coukd be a match for AJ.
MLBTR.
The presser is here:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=6261176
Tom-
I prefer Yadier.
I prefer Jesus.
Joba_62 #20 Jorge Posada, Thank you! Enough said!
I could see Posada getting the Yankee Mgr job, and Girardi getting one of those lateral promotions to the front office that George always used for axed Mgr’s.
Shame-gotcha. I don’t think he has any chance of winning, so he won’t be added to the long list of “won for the wrong role” actors.
Jesus was to be Jorge’s successor.
They f***** with the natural order.
That never ends well.
Po already getting choked up
I still can’t believe Jorgie is retiring… won’t be real for me until they start to play in April.
Prufrock – I would have guessed the under on his choking up, he did well.
Awwww…I love that CC’s there
Why is Posada called a pillar of 5 championships? Did he even play in a playoff game in ’96? Kind of silly that the ’96 trophy is sitting up there.
AmberSabathia Best wishes @Dlauraposada an amazing wife, mother and friend.Thx for the words of wisdom thru out the years. U will be missed in the Bronx!
This is really hard to watch, and this is the easiest of the 3 remaining
JonLaneNYC “He was one of the greatest catchers of his era, and one of the best Puerto Rican players to ever play the game.” – Bernie Williams
Wise move for Posada to have his family on the podium with him. They gave him the strength to get through the Presser.
“willwill January 24th, 2012 at 10:52 am
and is it me or does Joba never seem like he’s working on getting back?”
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i just can’t believe it when i read crap like this…by what measure do you think he”s not working out? because he tweets a sentence 6 or 8 times a day indicates he’s not working out? isn’t it at least possible that somewhere in the 23 hours and 48 minutes he’s not tweeting he might be able to squeeze in a workout?
Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 11:20 am
This is really hard to watch, and this is the easiest of the 3 remaining
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Thats what I was thinking too… being at work today might’ve been a good call. The day Jeter goes so does my childhood… and I’m gonna be a total mess.
“isn’t it at least possible that somewhere in the 23 hours and 48 minutes he’s not tweeting he might be able to squeeze in a workout?”
Our generation isn’t able to achieve anything because of our addictions to social networking
#LoHudLogic
Diane Munson said Jorge reminded her of her husband, NOT Russell Martin!
Jorge’s next speech will be in NY also….but it’ll be in Cooperstown NY
I think Diane Munson is confused.
She keeps saying ‘Jorge Posada’ instead of ‘Russell Martin’.
Can anyone answer my question why he’s called a pillar of 5 titles? Not one playoff game in ’96.
LOL, LGY
Blake, hear, hear!
Love that CC is there and stepping up the leadership role…..
Is Cashman there?
Unbearable.
Cue the Tate’s.
yes, that’s more than pushing it, he had only 16 pa’s in 96 and none in the PS. not only not a pillar but barely a footnote on that team. but today’s not a day to quibble about hyperbole.
Where’s the Jorge roll call and hip hip chant? Video isn’t complete without those.
Pruf, QFT. Need chocolate.
Nice seeing the Yanks are bringing Diana Munson into the fold. The interview of her, Catfish’s widow, and Murcer’s widow was the highlight of Old Timer’s Day last year.
Subway rocks!
It just makes me so sad… Tino, Bernie, Jorgie… none of them got the send off Paul did. They all deserved it.
UPDATE, 11:28 a.m.: Very nice comments from Thurman Munson?s wife, who said she?s loved two Yankees catchers in her life, and said Jorge is the reason she got back into baseball after her husband?s death.
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awwww
I have a feeling many tears will be shed when I watch this later.
LGY January 24th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Is Cashman there?
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Yes, he’s thinking when I get Montero back I’ll be here to see him retire as a Yankee
There has been a lot of HOF buzz around Posada since the retirement rumors started…..much of it positive. I think that’ll build over the next 5 years as folks start looking more closely at his career and the numbers he put up.
when i was a kid claire ruth used to always be at OTD.
posada = hof
now doubts about that
he was a great and fiery yankee
i hope that he and jeter buy the team from the steinbrenners and run it like george in his glory days.
Shame, Pettitte didn’t, either.
The problem was, in Jorge’s case, we were losing an elimination game. Tough for fans to step outside that in-the-moment capture of all your senses, but I thought about it sitting there, that it would be his last game in a Yankee uniform.
Pettitte’s exit from that loss to Lee should have been serenaded, but again, the fan is in the grip of a playoff game the team is losing.
I yelled for them, but they probably didn’t hear me
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Jete I think was fighting back a lot of emotion…you always know when his face starts twitchin’.
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you mean the george in his glory days when we won 2 WS in 26 seasons? as someone who lived through the actual ‘george in his glory days’ i say no thanks.
Jerome_Preisler “There’s not one {experience} that stands out.” As best. Speaks of Wells perfect games, all the World Series championships.
Jerome_Preisler Most disappointing: There’s a couple. There’s not one. Speaks of a day he had three passed balls. How’s that for personal accountability/
Back then we understood that a bat at catcher had value.
“Diane Munson said Jorge reminded her of her husband, NOT Russell Martin!”
Yet Cashman never made that far more accurate comparison.
Well, I’m about as far from a Yankee fan as one can get but, reading some of the quotes and descriptions of Posada’s retirement even chokes me up a little. But then, I’ve always been a bit of a sap when it comes to this stuff…
Best wishes, Jorge.
May your life outside of baseball be even better than your life in it.
AndrewMarchand Plans for the future for Jorge? “I don’t.” He said he wants to spend the summer with his family.
There might not be a place in the HOF for Jorgie but I think every Yankee fan would agree there’s a place for him in Monument Park. I know its not the same, but I hope that means just as much to him.
Freudian overlook?
Did Cashman really not show up?
Jorge should and will be in the HOF.
Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 11:44 am
“Diane Munson said Jorge reminded her of her husband, NOT Russell Martin!”
Yet Cashman never made that far more accurate comparison.
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I don’t recall, if he ever did. But slobbering all over Martin and calling him the next Thurman was a slight at Jorge.
Cash is there. Sitting behind Jeter.
Cashman’s there, LGY.
As long as they don’t put Girardi on the podium for his “I remember when Jorge…” stories, we’ll be alright.
Oh ok. Didn’t see him. Thanks.
Why are you retiring now
I’m tired.
“i have an open mind, but i’d have to see jorge manage somewhere else before i’d trust him at the Yankees helm.”
Seattle?
bkabak Mariano should ask a question. It would be better than most of those getting thrown out there.
bkabak Mariano should ask a question. It would be better than most of those getting thrown out there.
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I wonder if there are mostly national writers there as opposed to NY beat writers.. the AP guys are always the worst. Lucky they know what sport they’re covering.
(Potentially) Great coaching duos: Posada and Mussina, Posada and Leiter, Posada and Arod.
Notice Jorge is wearing pinstripes.
“I don’t recall, if he ever did. But slobbering all over Martin and calling him the next Thurman was a slight at Jorge.”
And Munson
If my recollection is right that he didn’t, imo* it was because he didn’t acquire Posada, unlike with Martin. So by making that spurious comparison, Cashman was really engaging in self-promotion, because he has a complex about having so much money to spend. As a consequence, he likes to trumpet his lost-cost signings.
*Just emphasizing that despite some people asking how do you know when you post something, virtually everything all of us post is opinion
tomingeorgia January 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am
The presser is here:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=6261176
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Thank you, very much.
“MarcCarig Marc Carig
Did i just see the dude from Law and Order ask a question at the Posada news conference?”
Seriously wtf is going on there lol
Surprised that Pettitte isn’t there.
That’s YOUR opinion, Rich
Jerome_Preisler On core four: “We grew up together “. . . met Pettitte and Mo in ’91, Jeter in ’92. “They’re like brothers. We understand each other. We-know what it’s all about.”
“PeteAbe Pete Abraham
Varitek lauds Posada upon retirement: bo.st/AF6kMi #RedSox #Yankees”
In case anyone gives a *%$! what Vtek thinks
Tino’s not, either. I’m sure they’ll text or call.
“Surprised that Pettitte isn’t there.”
He released a statement.
Jerome_Preisler On seeing people show up here: “I’ve been blessed … I see a lot of teammates … Flaherty’s back there … I’m honored everybody’s here
Jorge did get better, and so will Montero
Oh, wait…
zecherj January 24th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Surprised that Pettitte isn?t there.
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He and Bernie both released statements
I just realized why the Yankees traded Montero.
It was really an attempt by the Yankees to make fans miss Posada even more.
oops, pat beat me. As usual.
Pretty short notice for guys from out of town like Andy to be there.
Jeter probably just left a girl with a gift basket this morning and headed uptown.
Shoulda caught Mo’s ^602nd….
I just realized why the Yankees traded Montero.
It was really an attempt by the Yankees to make fans miss Posada even more.
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Well, it worked
Rich in NJ January 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I just realized why the Yankees traded Montero.
It was really an attempt by the Yankees to make fans miss Posada even more.
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B a s t a r d s
J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Shoulda caught Mo’s ^602nd….
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Yeah… that was one instance where I couldn’t support Uncle Joe at all. One inning wouldn’t have killed him.
Especially since Mo said “that’s my dream…” to have Po catch that.
What’s that expression, actions speak louder than words…
LGY January 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Pretty short notice for guys from out of town like Andy to be there.
Jeter probably just left a girl with a gift basket this morning and headed uptown.
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OMG
not meaning Mo’s words, meaning the “we support we love Jorge” crap
Oh, please not the “Posada should have caught #602″ again. I’m begging you!!!!!!!!
Po needs to teach that sweep tag to JR Murphy
Wow that was tough to watch. Sucks seeing all the great Yankee players dropping like flys recently. Andy last year and now Jorge, hopefully we aren’t sitting through MO’s retirement presser next year but I fear we might…
MLB Network carried a interview from Jesus talking about what Jorge meant to him just before they went live to the press conference. On the bottom he had the Mariner Logo buy his name though. Could’ve done without seeing that.
Sherman’s column today suggests that todays presser should have been to announce something different…..given the Montero trade….can’t say he’s wrong.
http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/y.....9ZjL78pYmJ
Not by you
C!!!!!!
Hal’s willing to talk to Jorge about a role in the organization
Montero Not showing up for BP everyday last Sept says alot.
Just started to watch the replay of the press conference. Just started to cry.
Hate father time.
Big year for big bat JR in 2012!
MLB Network carried a interview from Jesus talking about what Jorge meant to him just before they went live to the press conference. On the bottom he had the Mariner Logo buy his name though. Could’ve done without seeing that.
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Jesus always gave Po credit. I remember telling somebody that in here who said Posada was selfish. Can’t remember who that was, since there seemed to be a fair amount of those people…
Guys just a thought…..instead of showing your dislike for Cashman and Girardi, why cant we just show our appreciation for one of the great Yankees of this time.
Perhaps. I agree it would have been nice to see Jorge behind the plate.
OTOH it was Mo’s moment. What would Mo have thought about having Jorge come in to catch him? Mo is about as humble as they come and would never do anything to disrespect another team. By putting Jorge in, you are saying you think the other team is going to lose. I just don’t see Mo wanting it turned into a spectacle.
OMG
‘When you’re building a baseball team you gotta do it up the middle” -Brian Cashman
‘When you’re building a baseball team you gotta do it up the middle” -Brian Cashman
*trades away best “up the middle” player in the organization*
Wells: “That’s my guy.”
LGY January 24th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
‘When you’re building a baseball team you gotta do it up the middle” -Brian Cashman
SMFH
Prince Fielder Talks May Conclude Today
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [January 24 at 11:12am CST]
There’s something close to a final four for Prince Fielder at this point in the sweepstakes for the free agent first baseman. There was lots of buzz about the Nationals, Orioles and Rangers yesterday, though their level of interest remains unclear. Here are the latest updates, with the most recent rumors up top:
The Rangers believe they are out of the bidding for Fielder, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. Talks have accelerated and could conclude today, according to Nightengale. The Nationals appear to be the favorites to sign the first baseman.
MLBTR
blake January 24th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Sherman’s column today suggests that todays presser should have been to announce something different…..given the Montero trade….can’t say he’s wrong.
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Yeah the one major thing that blows about the Giants being in the Superbowl is that they’re taking up all the ink… when I read that this morning, it was the only article up about Jorgie and quite frankly I could’ve stood to read something more uplifting lol. Sherman just made me depressed before breakfast.
JackCurryYESJack Curry
Posada said he’s received calls from YES, ESPN and MLBNetwork, but, right now, he added, “I don’t see myself behind a mike.”
Cashman focusing right now on trading for a bat. Feels they can deal from an area of strength (pitching). Agents calling him about the DH spot, not the other way around.
The best part of that had to be Diana Munson’s speech. She is class personified.
‘When you’re building a baseball team you gotta do it up the middle” -Brian Cashman
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Lip service is all you’ll ever get from me. – Elvis Costello
dh is not up the middle
dh is not up the middle
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Catcher is
Rich, excellent tune!
Jerome_Preisler
On Rivera’s saying he might retire after this year, Posada smiles and says Jeter says Mo has 3 more years.–
Asked if he believes Mo or Jeter, Jorge says: Jeter
‘When you’re building a baseball team you gotta do it up the middle” -Brian Cashman
Gary Sanchez better be the second coming….
jr1212 January 24th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Guys just a thought?..instead of showing your dislike for Cashman and Girardi, why cant we just show our appreciation for one of the great Yankees of this time.
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This!
Should have moved him up in the order in the postseason.
Shame, Gary Sanchez is likely gonna be the second going…
The second big-bat catching prospect going somewhere else, for an arm.
Pitching wins.
Mo won’t retire until Jeter does. I just know this isn’t his last season. After 2013 or 2014 is more likely.
CDickerson_PFTP Chris Dickerson
Christmas dinner convo: my mom talking about how sad she’ll be if Jorge retired. Sorry mom. Thank you for everything Jorge. #hiphipjorge
He shows a little more emotion than me, but we feel the same way…
I’m going to go out on a limb and say this is Mo’s last year.
Shame, Gary Sanchez is likely gonna be the second going…
The second big-bat catching prospect going somewhere else, for an arm.
Pitching wins.
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We will trade him for Arodys Vizcaino after he blows up for Atlanta… sigh…
Say it ain’t so, JAP! Let’s stay positive. Honestly, its less stressful for me to just believe they know what the hell they’re doing in that front office.
Derek deadpan…priceless…
WILLIE!
“JackCurryYES Jack Curry
Posada was asked about relationship with Girardi. “I never had a problem with him,” he said.”
LOL, “can’t picture it”
He had a problem with me
I’ve been a pretty outspoken critic of Jorge. I’ve often thought he was too stubborn for his (or the team’s) own good at times. That when he got older and his body started breaking down he became petulant when Girardi tried moving him out from behind the plate to keep his bat in the lineup – things along those lines.
I still believe all of that. I also believe he’s going to go down with Bernie and Andy as one of the great home grown Yankees (not in the same class as Jeter and Mo) and I would be thrilled if one day this year all three of them were honored with their plaques in monument park.
On WFAN they are debating who should get their numbers retired – the choices are:
Bernie
Andy
Jorge
Paul
Tino
Derek
Alex
Mo
Torre
On the one hand, I could see the arguments for all of them – I think the Hall of Famers are absolute (Derek, Mo, Torre, Alex). After that – they all have sentimental value but are you reducing the honor by putting in so many players?
Very moving speech by Jorge and wonderful tribute.
Bernie – Yes
Andy – No
Jorge – Yes
Paul – No
Tino – No
Derek – Obviously
Alex – No
Mo – Obviously
Torre – No
In all fairness, I’m on the fence about both Andy and Alex, but the rest I’m 100% certain on.
Nice words from Pettitte. And here’s Mo…
So cute
Dlauraposada Laura Posada
http://twitter.com/Dlauraposad.....84/photo/1
From Randy…you have to make an extreme effort to get anywhere in any field.. i fought my way in to get the opportunity to get my hands dirty. you make your own opportunity.
i don’t have a disdain for people who didn’t play. i have disdain for people who are know it alls about something when they haven’t paid their dues in the respective field whether it’s sports of something else.
the fact is the average person is kind of lazy and doesn’t do half what they could with their lives.
i’m as guilty as anyone sometimes in this regard, but make no mistake, if someone pays their dues with hard work, they’ll know something about what they were doing
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Randy, in the previous threads you kept talking about you playing and that is why you know more than others. I played Div I ball and was a catcher. I hold a record that can never be broken and was drafted after my Junior year but stayed in school…I then broke a disc in my back which ended my pro career. I played some semi pro, but the back never was strong enough for me to be good enough to make the pros. Honestly, I would have been a Joe Girardi type of player offensively anyway IMO, but my understanding of the game was FAR better than people far more physically talented than I was. In fact, many of the better guys were not students of the game at all. I do think there is a reason why a lot of catchers make good managers (even though I am not a big fan of Girardi’s) and that is because a good catcher sees things that others don’t.
You have the same flaw most people who played the game have; you believe in the scouts as knowing way more than the SABR guys; in fact you dismiss the SABR guys. I am a COO now and have always had an analytical mind. I was on forums with Bill James and used to take the “side” of an argument that was more on the scout side (James was 100% on the stat side and in fact doesn’t understand the game at all (his own words)). About 10 years ago, I realized I was being ignorant to the numbers and started to embrace them.
There is room for scouting as you need information, but the stats are also good information and should surely not be dismissed, in fact, they are usually more accurate because people have inherent bias’ in what they see. The hardest thing for me to realize was that there is no real such thing as clutch ability; yes there is clutch performance, but ability would mean you could dial it up all the time, and people simply can’t. It took me years of study to realize what I had always thought as a player was wrong. I could expound on this more, but I have written enough.
Bernie –no
Andy – No
Jorge – Yes
Paul – No
Tino – No
Derek – yes
Alex – maybe
Mo – yes
Torre – No
Blake-
If the Rangers are out on Fielder, that means he has a multiyear contract on the table. I really believe, like his father, that he’ll be signing a multi-year guaranteed contract with the Nationals very soon, with an opt out at 3 years.
I think Cashman is fielding trade proposals for Hughes to get a bat, since they have gotten nowhere with Burnett, and it makes little sense for the Yankees to absorb most of the contract and make him a 3M/year starter for another team.
Shame -
I think Alex gets in by virtue of his likely being a Hall of Famer and the fact that when he retires he will have spent the majority of his career as a Yankee.
Paulie was my favorite player from the 90s teams but I think you’re ultimately right that he doesn’t get in and the only way Tino gets a day is if he gets one.
Andy could go either way – it wouldn’t shock me if next year there was one day where the three of them go into Monument Park together.
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 9m of final prince teams, #rangers are longest shot. had great meeting. but length issue for tex. need isnt as great for them
Hope that’s true
Trader,
I agree on both counts…..I do believe that if he signs a muktiyear deal then it means he’s got close to Tex money in hand……if he’s got that then he should sign
Trader -
If you’re to believe Joel Sherman and Jon Heyman even with the Yankees offering to pick up salary there’s still zero interest in AJ.
On the one hand it makes sense to deal Hughes for a young, controllable bat. On the other hand you would be dealing him at the lowest possible value.
I think the target that makes sense is Carlos Lee. Maybe a Lee for Soriano deal?
Chip – I think 13 gets retired as well, but I’m on the fence with that one. I could make a better case for Alex than Andy so ultimately I think you’re right.
Kay may not be an all-time great announcer, but he gives a hell of an interview.
JoeAuriemmaYES Paulina now concerned that Jorge being home is going to lecture her for a bad grade on a report card LOL
“Kay may not be an all-time great announcer, but he gives a hell of an interview.”
Centerstage blows, imo.
So old timer’s day this year
Team One:
Posada – C
Tino – 1b
Paul – RF
Bernie – CF
Homer Bush – 2b
Luis Sojo – SS
Wade Boggs – 3b
Straw – DH
and making a special appearance out of no where – Matsui – LF
DavidWaldstein Mo on Posada: It was a privilege to play with him.
Chip – With a real starter that team might beat the astros.
I wonder if Boston will be holding a similar conference for JD Drew…
Irreverent Discourse January 24th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Chip – With a real starter that team might beat the astros.
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How does a rotation of Andy, Wells, Cone, El Duque and Moose strike you? Gossage in the 9th?
Chip – That could definitely beat the Astros… lol
Chip-
Soriano. Find it hard that some team values him as a 14M closer next year.
The players most other teams would be interested in on the Yankees would be Nova, Robertson, Nunez, Gardner, Martin, and maybe Joba and Hughes. Trading any, but Joba or Hughes create holes that would hurt the team.
Gotta go. Will check back later.
Predictions:
Fielder signs with the Nationals today
Moneyball does not win best picture, from a list of some B+ nominations. It was entertaining, nothing else.
Numbers retired?
Bernie – yes
Andy – yes
Jorge – Yes
Paul – No
Tino – No
Derek – yes
Alex – no
Mo – yes
Torre – yes
Hall of fame?
Bernie – no
Andy – yes
Jorge – Yes
Paul – No
Tino – No
Derek – yes
Alex – yes
Mo – yes
Torre – yes
Dlauraposada With Derek and Mariano… http://twitter.com/Dlauraposad.....00/photo/1
I think Robertson is an untouchable. Hughes and Joba would be trading in something close to a liquidation sale.
I’d trade any of the others in the right deal.
patrick – Pettitte for the hall? He lacks the single season accolades and never really led the league in anything important… but his postseason stats alone should do it I guess. Does Mussina make your hall?
Just retire everyone’s number and start fresh from 100 on up…………………..
MarianoRivera Sad to see Jorge retire, a great friend and teammate. It won?t be the same without him in the locker room.
Posada was a great Yankee, true throwback
Laura Posada is hot
A great Yankee. Truly great. There’s no question he should be in the Hall of Fame.
We knew this day was coming. But it still difficult and mixed.
Nearly every great Yankee dynasty has bee built around a plus hitting catcher. It’s one of the themes that resonates across the franchises history. I’ve talked about that quite a lot here because I really do believe it has been fundamental as to why the franchise has achieved such great success.
And for the past generation Posada was the man who carried that torch.
He will be sorely missed.
‘Hughes and Joba would be trading in something close to a liquidation sale’.
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You would ‘try to trade’ Hughes and or Joba when they have little to no value ?
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 6m fielder expected to get AT LEAST 7 yr contract, and perhaps 8. #prince
“You would ‘try to trade’ Hughes and or Joba when they have little to no value ?”
The opposite.
Bernie – no
Andy – yes
Jorge – Yes
Paul – No
Tino – No
Derek – yes
Alex – yes
Mo – yes
Torre – yes
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I’m a No on Pettitte. Posada’s is an interesting case. Really depends on how he’s measured. Measured against other catchers, he’s in. Measured against other players of his era, he’s probably not. Voting pool will change some in the next half decade and that could work in his favor.
‘Laura Posada is hot’
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Drippy Hot
A moving tribute to Jorge by Diane Munson.
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Jorge telling Kay that he felt demoted by the Yanks telling him he would not catch.
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Thanks Jorge. One of my favorite Yankees.
This day saddens me. I loved Po’s clutch hitting in so many big games. Then I saw my daughter posted that today is 6 months since her husband was killed in a surfing accident off the coast of Sumatra, Indonesia. Kinda puts it in perspective for me. He was so well liked that they named the beach after him in Long Beach, N.Y. I’ll miss Po’s fist pumps after a big late inning hit.
I’ve read a lot of pro HOF stuff on Jorge the last couple weeks ….guys that have votes that think he’s a legit candidate. I think that’s a very good sign when you have guys already considering him this early……it wont be first ballot…..but I think he’s got a great chance to get in
Trading Hughes at his lowest value does not make sense to me. Carlos Lee has very little value to me as his OPS over the last 2 years has been about 740 and at 35 he isn’t getting better. That being said, if we are not signing A. Jones, Lee would be a great right handed platoon because he woudl hit lefties well. Was great last year, but mediocre the year before.
patrick – Pettitte for the hall? He lacks the single season accolades and never really led the league in anything important… but his postseason stats alone should do it I guess. Does Mussina make your hall?
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Pettitte yes, Mussina yes
Dlauraposada Laura Posada
The kids are happy!!! http://pic.twitter.com/v8rVVz0p
“Then I saw my daughter posted that today is 6 months since her husband was killed in a surfing accident off the coast of Sumatra, Indonesia”
I’m very sorry.
‘The opposite’.
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Meaning you can’t give either one away right now.
Thanks.
Rich in NJ, he was a Yankee fan.
Said he felt demoted and was never given a chance to fight for his job.
Glad he didn’t go the hypocrisy route, but then again, he’s too authentic for that.
Jorge telling Kay that he felt demoted by the Yanks telling him he would not catch
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Pretty reasonable to feel that way given that that’s exactly what happened.
Said he felt demoted and was never given a chance to fight for his job.
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Too bad the concussions he suffered contributed to it. Glad the MD’s knew better.
CC_Sabathia Just left the press conference for a great player but even greater friend and teammate Jorge Posada! U will be missed.
Interesting they risked his health, having him catch a game…I guess needing an emergency catcher trumped what the MDs said was best.
Glad he didn’t go the hypocrisy route, but then again, he’s too authentic for that.
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True. Guy never pulled any punches. Always said it the way he saw it. No whitewash.
A.J. Burnett not at the press conference? Clearly still a rift
Why didn’t the yankees just keep montero,and put joba back in the rotation?
Joba has a fb,slider,curve,maybe more.
They are saying that if pineda doesn’t develope another pitch,he is a number 3 or 4 starter.
What the crap are we doing to develope our pitchers?
Next stop Cooperstown…….Hip Hip Jorge…..Thank You for the memories # 20
Very nice presser and feel very grateful to have seen the Core 4 win at home in 2009 and to have seen Jorge’s last game. Hip hip and thank you, Jorge, a future HOF’er.
It was a very last-case scenario with Cervelli’s concussion and Martin taking the foul ball off his thumb, they were left with 2 immediate options… but it is interesting they risked Posada’s health rather than having Montero catch that day. Apparently they were that hell-bent on hiding Montero’s defense last year to keep his trade value up.
Whatever JAP………….
banish all dismay
extinguish every sorrow
if I’m lost or I’m forgiven
the birds will still be singing
– Elvis Costello
What Prince fielder is really up to…
http://www.theonion.com/articl.....ake,27111/
ID, Montero was the DH that game.
“Apparently they were that hell-bent on hiding Montero’s defense last year to keep his trade value up.”
Sarcasm?
If not, are GMs so myopic that even a tiny sample of potentially bad catching that it would alter their p.o.v.? I doubt it.
It’s always about offense/defense, which is why they may not have their catcher of the next five years in the organization.
yankeefem – Yes, so again… risking Posada’s mashed potato brain to save losing the DH for 2 at bats?
yankeefem – I assume by that time of the season Posada’s concussions were not an issue anymore… I just found it odd, and this was also followed by the Romine call-up.
Girardi being Girardi or the concussions were just an excuse. We’ll never know until the book comes out. I am out until later; have a good one.
Concussions can be a problem for years. You can’t assume that a few months cures the problem
On another note – perhaps the biggest story in baseball that’s received the least attention in a proportional sense is that in the last CBA, the players functionally agreed to a salary cap.
It’s a sort of “soft salary cap.” But in practical terms its a salary cap.
When you see the Sox doing a pure salary dump of a productive player like Scutaro, a player for whom they have no definitive replacement, only to sign a player like Ross at a position they are barren of – then you really are dealing with a salary cap. Call it what you like. But that’s essentially what it is.
And it’s really unclear whether the players association fully understood this or the ramifications of the deal. If they had I can’t imagine they would have signed off on it. It’s a salary cap of “carrots” more than “sticks” so that may have been how the owners got it by them.
At this point, I’m probably more hoping that the Phillies sign Cole Hamels than not – because I think the Yankees will pass next winter.
KerryWood Congrats to #20 Jorge Posada. Awesome career, I was honored to throw to him for 2 months. #ballplayer
yankeefeminista January 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Very nice presser and feel very grateful to have seen the Core 4 win at home in 2009 and to have seen Jorge’s last game. Hip hip and thank you, Jorge, a future HOF’er.
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Yankfem, I’m grateful, too, that it came at home. I sensed, like many I’m sure, that it would be the last one for the Core Four. I told myself when Victorino’s grounder was bouncing toward Cano to take a long look – especially at the 3 old-timers on the infield. Mariano ran like a kid to first and then ran back to greet Posada, and Jeter ran in from short. Was right there with all of them, but these 3, and Alex, who had been so maligned as a “loser”, were who my Yankee soul communed with most in that moment.
ron January 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Why didn’t the yankees just keep montero,and put joba back in the rotation?
Joba has a fb,slider,curve,maybe more.
They are saying that if pineda doesn’t develope another pitch,he is a number 3 or 4 starter.
What the crap are we doing to develope our pitchers?
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Um, “pitching wins” ??
agree with id. from the day they rushed romine up to YS it was obvious they were hiding him. they let him catch one game that mattered after that, then let him catch the last day of the year just so they could say he caught. i don’t know why so many people chose to ignore what seemed so obvious to me.
sigh… i have left YES on for too long.
Fatcessa just went on a rant saying that death threats to professional atheletes on twitter are not legitimate. The same guy that harps on tweets from sports writers ad nauseum.
I gave you an hour Mike, you lasted 33 minutes. Can’t wait til this clown gets cancelled.
‘said Fielder, adding that he has been craving Mexican lately and might entertain an offer from the Dodgers if it means scoring free tacos. “At this rate, I’m almost positive I’m going to sign a one-year deal so I can do this again next winter.’
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Hal ? ? A one year deal……….Do you have the checkbook ?
In the Angels’ game where Posada came in to catch, Montero was already the DH. It was early, so if Montero went behind the plate, the pitchers would have to hit, presenting another injury issue (remember Wang).
The next day, when they had the choice, Montero started with Romine being flown in for the end of the game. That was in Anaheim not at the Stadium.
exiledintampa January 24th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
This day saddens me. I loved Po’s clutch hitting in so many big games. Then I saw my daughter posted that today is 6 months since her husband was killed in a surfing accident off the coast of Sumatra, Indonesia. Kinda puts it in perspective for me.
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Should put things in perspective for everyone, exiled. So sorry to hear that and I hope your daughter is holding up okay.
“And it’s really unclear whether the players association fully understood this or the ramifications of the deal. If they had I can’t imagine they would have signed off on it. It’s a salary cap of “carrots” more than “sticks” so that may have been how the owners got it by them.”
Of course, it’s possible that they were unaware of the negative consequences, of the agreement, but I think there may have been two reasons for their acquiescence: 1) they believed (wrongly, imo) that it was worthwhile to cement gains for present players even if it was at the expense of income for future players; and 2) they may have overlearned the lessons of the NFL and NBA labor disputes, and as a result, paid too high a price for labor peace.
Thanks, Shame. Yes she is. The Long Beach community is very supportive.
agreed cb. the owners seem to have quick-pitched a salary cap right past the player’s association.
l.l. you are right i stand corrected!
Most teams don’t spend anywhere near the lux tax limit.
Hip Hip Jorge!
Sure, no prob. There was a backstory to that because Romine was already driving home to SoCal (minor league season had wrapped up) when he got the call somewhere in mid-America that his services were needed. Ditched his rent a car and hopped a plane to get to Anaheim mid-game.
the owners seem to have quick-pitched
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You sound like Tim McCarver..
He’s like a child that learned a new word during broadcasts. QUICK PITCH QUICK PITCH QUICK PITCH~~~
true most teams don’t spend up to the luxury tax, but even restraining the top 2 or perhaps 3 teams, the owners have accomplished something they’ve wanted for decades. had they straight-up demanded a hard cap there would have been a strike and even if they got it in a settlement of the strike, they would have had to cave on a salary floor and likely alot more. they seem to have gotten a defacto (if high) salary cap without giving up anything more than an extra day off after the ASG.
Did we sign Prince yet ?
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