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Banuelos and Betances ranked among top 50 prospects

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 26, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Last night, MLB Network and MLB.com announced their Top 50 Prospects list, and as expected, former Yankees top prospect Jesus Montero and current Yankees top prospect Manny Banuelos finished near the top. What might have come as a surprise was the order of those two.

Montero ranked 13th overall, with Banuelos one spot ahead of him at No. 12.*

“Once (Banuelos) throws more strikes,” MLB.com wrote, “he has the chance to be an electric starter who can be a No. 2 or 3 starter.”

Montero was, naturally, touted for his “monster” power potential, but Banuelos finished a spot higher on the list.

Dellin Betances landed at No. 40, and like Banuelos, he was touted as a potential No. 2 or No. 3 starter if he improves his command. Back of the rotation or a setup role were also mentioned as long-term possibilities.

Ranking just outside of the Top 50, catcher Gary Sanchez landed at No. 53 overall, touted as a potential offensive everyday catcher in the big leagues. Center fielder Mason Williams ranked 73rd, earning praise for his bat, speed, defense and advanced approach at the plate.

* One spot ahead of Banuelos, ranking 11th overall, was Gerrit Cole, the right-hander originally drafted but unsigned by the Yankees. Now with the Pirates, he seems to have progressed exactly as the Yankees hoped. Former Yankees prospect Arodys Vizcaino — traded to Atlanta in the Javier Vazquez deal — ranked 36th on the list.

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110 Responses to “Banuelos and Betances ranked among top 50 prospects”

  1. stuckey January 26th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    JF,

    IF Sanchez gets under the redline this season, then the projections alter significantly?

  2. Jerkface January 26th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    IF Sanchez gets under the redline this season, then the projections alter significantly?

    Yes, reducing the strike out rate improves his chances of making the majors. Look in the last post, I pointed out Mike Stanton. He got his K rate down to 22% by AA. Was at 28% in Low A. K rates go up in the majors, so Stanton’s 22% turned into 27% in the majors. Which is why K rate is so important. Unless you’re a straight contact guy, your K rate is gonna go up.

  3. LGY January 26th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

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  4. RobertGKramer@AOL.Com January 26th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I got to see Arodys pitch once for Atlanta last year. Unfortunately he couldn’t find the plate!

  5. stuckey January 26th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    “If Sanchez hits .300 next year in A+ or A- without reducing the K rate he would be a good best case. .240-.260, lots of dingers, lots of whiffs.”

    Real question, isn’t this somewhat assuming Stanton has peaked at the big leagues?

    If you put a piece of paper on front of me and told me if I signed I get a career of Stanton’s 2nd year slash line outta Sanchez, I’d sign it in a sec.

    A month ago, I’d sign it for Montero, for that matter.

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  7. epv2 January 26th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Looking at the list, you swapped Banuelos and Montero. Montero is #12 and ManBan #13.

  8. Yogi Mantle January 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    At least Cole got signed with a very good team that is going places. :lol:

  9. Crawdaddy January 26th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    The top ten farm systems according to the 2012 BA Prospect Handbook:

    1.Nationals
    2.Rangers
    3.Royals
    4.Diamondbacks
    5.Blue Jays
    6.Yankees
    7.Reds
    8.Padres
    9.Mariners
    10.Red Sox

    How the Red Sox have a better farm system than the Rays is beyond me. Also, I think KC’s get a lot publicity, but many of their pitchers had down years last season.

  10. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Many of KC’s 2011 best prospects were called up during the season and are no longer considered prospects in 2012.

  11. J. Alfred Prufrock January 26th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    MLB on Betances does not compute. If he can stay in the strike zone, he’s a No. 1. The whole “risk” part of him is that he may have trouble repeating. His worst-case scenario, though, would be as a less efficient starter. If he can become efficient, like he was in 2010, he’s front-end material.

  12. Jerkface January 26th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Real question, isn’t this somewhat assuming Stanton has peaked at the big leagues?

    If you put a piece of paper on front of me and told me if I signed I get a career of Stanton’s 2nd year slash line outta Sanchez, I’d sign it in a sec.

    No doubt I would take Stanton’s 2nd year from Gary. Just you generally don’t see .300 averages with guys that strike out a lot. It takes a good BABIP year/total dominance to get it. Ryan Howard hit .300 once but is mostly around .250/.260. Stanton might hit .300 a few times when balls bounce his way on BABIP but I don’t see him running off seasons like A-rod/Cano, guys who hit for a lot of power and strike out but not really huge strike out guys.

    If you look from 2005-2011 at the list of players with 1000 PA’s sorted by K rate the only guys who hit above .270 with a K rate above 25% are: Wilson Betemit, Austin Jackson, and Ryan Howard.

  13. hardwired7 January 26th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    I wonder if the GM for the mystery team has to wear a mask with a question mark on it when he submits his bid?

  14. PhiltheThrill January 26th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    People forget that Sanchez most of ST last year with a heart scare. I’d expect a much better start out of him this year if he gets a full ST.

  15. austinmac January 26th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Regarding the earlier discussion of walks and strike outs, those who walk a lot strike out a lot. Players who swing at the first strike, have more chances to put the ball in play.

    That doesn’t predict anything on Sanchez, but he shouldn’t be discounted just for some struggles. It is a rare player who hits at every level.

    Surely, to the Montero star proponents, minor league stats the last two years don’t call for stardom.

  16. randy l. January 26th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    “Comparing players in low A. Who is this Jerkface idiot?”

    DSJ

    yeah, well he’s our idiot. who are you? dumb sj?

    we had a smart sj, but he’s on strike.

  17. Bronx Jeers January 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    This will serve as my yearly appeal for the Yanks to end this archaic policy.

    Mr Steinbrenner, Tear down this wall!

    http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....-time.html

  18. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    randy l. January 26th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    “Comparing players in low A. Who is this Jerkface idiot?”

    DSJ

    yeah, well he’s our idiot. who are you? dumb sj?

    we had a smart sj, but he’s on strike.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    The West Coast Daisy. Can’t you tell by the constant political BS?

  19. austinmac January 26th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Randy,

    I will give you my final trade take. They needed pitching very badly, and I had been advocating Kuroda. He would have been enough of an addition to compete with while keeping the offensive addition of Montero. I also like to watch offense, and he can hit.

    That said,the trade is history. If Pineda can be a dominant starter, it is a good trade. He has the raw ability that few have, power and control. I just hope it works out.

    Ultimately, I agree with you, but I have been wrong enough to realize it could work out well. He could be critical in a low scoring playoff game. We shall all see.

  20. Crawdaddy January 26th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Did WCYF get the boot here? Is his buddy still around?

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 26th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    “The West Coast Daisy. Can’t you tell by the constant political BS?”

    Good catch GB. I picked that up the first time he called me “santcimonous cow” and then railed at me for questioning Joe Paterno’s illness, talking about how the whole world stopped when I had a tragedy in my family (paraphrase).

    That was a constant theme, with him lobbing whatever he could at me and then scolding me for not speaking words of comfort to him regarding his own situation.

    Total nut job.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 26th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    “Did WCYF get the boot here? Is his buddy still around”

    WCSF got the boot but snuck back on with another disguise.

    As far as I can see, Vineyard has been very pleasant without WCSF being able to acknowledge who he really is since he would get the boot again.

    Hi Craw!

    :)

  23. Niblick January 26th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    Now that the Yanks have an excess of pitching and need a hitter, maybe they could trade Pineda to get one. I understand that the M’s have some new kid who is supposed to be a real savior.

  24. Crawdaddy January 26th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Wow! He won’t be missed by me.

    Hi back to you Trish!

  25. Giuseppe Franco January 26th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    WCDB was banned a few months back but he returns every now and then as DSJ and quickly reminds us why he was banned with the political BS and general douchebaggery.

    Get lost, dirt bag. Go bother another forum until you are inevitably banned from that one too.

  26. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 26th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    “Did WCYF get the boot here? Is his buddy still around”

    WCSF got the boot but snuck back on with another disguise.

    As far as I can see, Vineyard has been very pleasant without WCSF being able to acknowledge who he really is since he would get the boot again.

    Hi Craw!

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I wouldn’t trust either one of them. They may not be the same person, but, they share the same brain cell.

  27. stuckey January 26th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    For the record, I wasn’t banned, I voluntarily spared you all my general douchebaggery for 6 months.

    But I recently decided you all really deserve some more.

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    Gerardo Concepcion Close To Signing
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    Cuban left-hander Gerardo Concepcion, an 18-year-old free agent, is very close to signing with a team, according to Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes.com (story is in Spanish).

    Concepcion’s agent, Jaime Torres, tells Rojas that the lefty has offers from as many as 10 teams and could sign as soon as this weekend. Earlier this week, Torres said the Rangers, Yankees, Cubs and White Sox have expressed the most interest in Concepcion so far.

    The Cuban defector recently established residency in Mexico and was declared eligible for free agency thereafter.

  30. jpmatrixfan88 January 26th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Wow, chad…you can’t read lol. Montero was ranked ahead of banuelos, might wanna check the list again. Could have sworn that betances was 41 not 40 as well.

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