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Berra and Teixeira honored tonight at Munson Awards Dinner

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Yankees Hall of Fame catcher Yogi Berra and first baseman Mark Teixeira will be among those honored at tonight’s Thurman Munson Awards Dinner in New York City.

Berra will receive the Munson Legend Award, given to the Yankees icon in celebration of the 50th Anniversary of the 1962 championship.

Teixeira is one of four players receiving “Thurmans,” awarded based on success on the field and through philanthropic work off the field.

Here are some more details.

Who: The honorees – Yankees Hall of Fame catcher Yogi Berra (Legend Award); Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira; Mets pitcher R.A. Dickey; Basketball Hall of Famer/ St. John’s and Warriors guard Chris Mullin; Georgetown/NBA star center Dikembe Mutombo (all accept Thurman Munson Awards); Mets infielder Daniel Murphy (inaugural Thurman Rising Star Award); Robert Tillis, Chief Executive Officer, Imperial Bag and Paper Co., Inc., (Corporate Hero); Thurman’s widow Diana Munson.

What: The 32nd annual Thurman Munson Awards Dinner to benefit AHRC New York City Foundation

Where: Grand Hyatt Hotel, 42nd Street, New York City

When: Tuesday night, January 31, 2012

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126 Responses to “Berra and Teixeira honored tonight at Munson Awards Dinner”

  1. theREALkevin January 31st, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    Good for Tex. Now let’s see some better work from him ON the field.

  2. muwarriorsfan January 31st, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    What success on the field? Trying to pull everything from the left side and hitting pop up after pop up?

  3. Irreverent Discourse January 31st, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Never underestimate the power of the juice press.

  4. Irreverent Discourse January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    yankeefem – He had the same slow start in 2010 as in 2011 IIRC, that’s what I was referring to.

    And we know Montero started slowly in the minors in 2011 after being sent down, but that sure didn’t hurt him in the majors, so guess that theory about his no longer being challenged enough was correct.

    That’s a pretty large assumption based on 50 at bats, if he’s still mashing without hesitation in July then I’ll concede that he may have been more ready than I’m allowing for. If he has a 20% K rate while doing so, I won’t consider myself entirely wrong either.

    That comment was also made in jest, based on the comment before it. No need to look for reasons to jump down my throat, I give you plenty of legitimate ones as it is.

  5. ron January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    I think the mariners,and the yankees will be happy with the trade.

    It is not impossible for a 22 year old to learn a changeup.

    I am still a yankee fan,so it does me no good to get all angry over a trade,that might or might not work out well for us.

    In 5 years from now if montero is hitting 28 hr,and is a dh,while pineda is the best pitcher in baseball,what good is all this misplaced anger doing me?

    I am not going to let a trade ruin the beautiful baseball experience for me,regardless of how this trade turns out.

    The yankees will survive,and so will we.

    We have a lot of nice prospects to be happy about,and for that,i am excited.

  6. theREALkevin January 31st, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Shut up muwarriors. Your joke didn’t even make sense. The award is for his work OFF the field. Hence my joke which did make sense.

    Quit trolling opposing team’s blogs. It’s pathetic.

  7. mick January 31st, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    ron….i like your outlook but you are not controversial enough to post here ;)

  8. Migs January 31st, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    repost:

    SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    migs. Are you miggs of old from sd? Havnt seen him post in over a year.
    Migs January 31st, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    sos,

    no im not.

    i used to post a long time ago under a generic name (back when pete was here)…then finally had to post something when i saw all the outcries over the trade. i usually just lurk…i dont post often, and when i do, its a few at a time, then gone for a whiles.

    of course, watch me post everyday now.

  9. Against All Odds January 31st, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    The whining will end if Pineda reaches his ceiling. That’s all he needs to do and ppl wouldn’t complain about it.

  10. Irreverent Discourse January 31st, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
    Like you predicting Montero would be lucky to hit .270 when he got promoted.
    You’re diakka. A shell.

    LOL when did I ever do that? When are you going to stop flat out LYING Prufrock? Huh?

    Can you get through an entire conversation on here without making something up that the person never said?

    You are just as bad as WCYF and his boyfriend VY… stop making stuff up and stop jumping in on conversations that happened hours ago that have since been resolved. You only make yourself look dumber, like a fool.

  11. SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Your always welcome to post here migs even in this hostile environment. Your read was pretty similiar to what miggs would have wrote. Sorry for the mixup.
    On second thought, wish Pineda did pick #21 and shut people up with his Ace like appearances.

  12. Bronx Jeers January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    The yankees will survive,and so will we.

    ————————————————

    Who are you Gloria Gaynor? We’re all screwed just like that joke of a team.

    Nice try Yanks.. See ya in 2013!

  13. ron January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    mick:

    The main problem i have is,we just don’t know how this is going to turn out.

    What happens if pineda developes a sick changeup,while montero can’t stick at catching,and is hitting 30 hr/100 rbi,batting .280,k’ing at a 22% rate,asa dh or 1b?

    I’ll survive.

    If gary sanchez can cut his k rate down to 21%,i think he can be real good,with more power than montero.

  14. Against All Odds January 31st, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    What happens if they trade Sanchez eventually?

  15. Irreverent Discourse January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    AAO – Mass hysteria, dogs and cats sleeping together… basically the worst parts of the bible all rolled into one?

  16. SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    The whining will end if Pineda reaches his ceiling. That’s all he needs to do and ppl wouldn’t complain about it.

    =======

    Even with Oneils number pasted on him? My second choice of numbers was Pavanoes but I know they retired it and burried it in Old Yankee stadium under the mens toilets used to be.

  17. ron January 31st, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Against All Odds January 31st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    What happens if they trade Sanchez eventually?

    —————————————————————————————————–

    Then i hope we get a good player,or players in return.

  18. SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    What happens if they trade Sanchez eventually?

    ========

    Depends. Will it be for Montero?

    The better question would be what if they traded Mason “Willie Mays ” Williams?

  19. LGY January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    you guys still talking about that Mariner’s guy with no glove??? waste of time…

    Randy I…..I think Montero is going to be a golfer with great skills off the tee, but not around the green to have a complete game……But man can he pound the driver

    ————-

    The type of thinking in these posts is the line of thought that got Z in trouble with the Cliff Lee trade.

    He went with Smoak because he was the more “complete player.” Montero had “no glove.”

    Z realized the error of his ways two years later and had to trade an extremely promising young pitcher to make up for the Smoak blunder.

    When talking about offensive players, the hit tool is by far the most important. 3 or 4 place hitter is his main position and that’s way more valuable than whatever defensive position he plays.

  20. Against All Odds January 31st, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    ron January 31st, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Against All Odds January 31st, 2012 at 7:28 pm What happens if they trade Sanchez eventually?

    —————————————————————————————————–

    Then i hope we get a good player,or players in

    ————————

    Hopefully but that would probably mean another Girardi like catcher behind the plate.

  21. ron January 31st, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Everybody is going to be hearing about sanchez,williams,banuelos,betances,and if david adams can stay healthy,i think he will suprise a lot of people.

    Montero is gone,get over it.

  22. Against All Odds January 31st, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    What happens if they trade Sanchez eventually?

    ========

    Depends. Will it be for Montero

    ————

    Probably for another pitcher

  23. Against All Odds January 31st, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    ron January 31st, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Everybody is going to be hearing about sanchez,williams,banuelos,betances,and if david adams can stay healthy,i think he will suprise a lot of people.

    Montero is gone,get over it

    —————–

    Pineda can help the process if he pitches like a number 2 this season.

  24. LGY January 31st, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    I’m a big Pineda fan. I think he’s going to be a great pitcher if he stays healthy.

    But that if he stays healthy qualification is a major concern for me. Major.

    My fear with Pineda is he’s the next Francisco Liriano.

  25. Oscar Madison January 31st, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    This is really getting exciting, DelCarmen, Choke-a-jima, A. Jones, maybe even Hall and or Ibanez.

    Can’t wait for ST.

  26. SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Z realized the error of his ways two years later and had to trade an extremely promising young pitcher to make up for the Smoak blunder.

    =======

    This reminds me of the movie Theres Something about Marie where he leaves Maries house with someone yelling out “Weve got a bleeder!!”

    The more and more I think of this. The more I believe this trade is like breaking up with that cute girl in high school and when you were with her everything was sexy and cute. When you break up, its knives and guns and stink eye walking past her in the halls. I understand (no i was not that person) both sides of this. For the record, I am for this trade and expected Montero to be dealt sooner or later. I will all get better folks.

  27. randy l. January 31st, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    “In 5 years from now if montero is hitting 28 hr,and is a dh,while pineda is the best pitcher in baseball,what good is all this misplaced anger doing me?”

    why not practice guessing the future?

    to me it’s great practice in testing ones judgement.

  28. GreenBeret7 January 31st, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Randy,

    Congrats on your son’s new contract with Houston. Livan must be thrilled, even though it’s a minor league contract.

  29. randy l. January 31st, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    “Montero is gone,get over it.”

    i’m a baseball fan first and a yankee fan second.

    as a baseball fan, i’m really going to enjoy watching montero play.

    the kid has an elite swing speed that few hitters have.

    it may be twenty years before the yankees get another guy with this kind of swing speed.

    i’m going to watch the kid whether he’s a yankee or not.

  30. SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    My fear with Pineda is he’s the next Francisco Liriano.
    ====

    LGY,
    You can argue that Montero could break down like Mauer now that hes going to be used behind the plate. Makes you appreciate the stability Posada gave us for so long. Its all a crap shoot. A good trade is usually a trade that stings on both sides.

  31. randy l. January 31st, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    “Congrats on your son’s new contract with Houston. Livan must be thrilled, even though it’s a minor league contract.”

    gb7-

    thanks, i taught ivan that all he needs to do is sneak in the back door and make hitters look silly trying to hit the slop he throws up there.

    he’ll be pitching in the bigs five years from now if he wants to.

  32. SoS January 31st, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Livan must be thrilled, even though it’s a minor league contract.

    =======

    Dammit!! I wanted the Yanks to pick him up and slot him in at the dh spot. Now CC will have to do it on his off days.

  33. GreenBeret7 January 31st, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    randy l. January 31st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
    “Congrats on your son’s new contract with Houston. Livan must be thrilled, even though it’s a minor league contract.”

    gb7-

    thanks, i taught ivan that all he needs to do is sneak in the back door and make hitters look silly trying to hit the slop he throws up there.

    he’ll be pitching in the bigs five years from now if he wants to.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I predict that Livan will be pitching in the MLB when Michael Pineda is giving his HOF induction speech.

    Do you remember the old TV series, Combat! with Vic Marrow? Just watched the episode with Warren Spahn playing the part of a German machine gunner.

  34. Oscar Madison January 31st, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Nothing like MeTV.

  35. randy l. January 31st, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    “Do you remember the old TV series, Combat! with Vic Marrow? Just watched the episode with Warren Spahn playing the part of a German machine gunner.”

    yeah , that was a good show. gritty.

  36. Oscar Madison January 31st, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Those poor Germans always caught their lunch on ‘COMBAT’no matter what. The standard move for both sides was always the ‘flanking’ move. :lol:

  37. tomingeorgia January 31st, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    randy,
    Vic Morrow could throw a grenade 125 yards and bring down a bridge!

  38. GreenBeret7 January 31st, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    randy l. January 31st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    “Do you remember the old TV series, Combat! with Vic Marrow? Just watched the episode with Warren Spahn playing the part of a German machine gunner.”

    yeah , that was a good show. gritty.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Given Spahn’s war record, it was a bit of a surprise that he would have taken the part of a german machine gunner. Lord, but, that guy could pitch, though. Hard to believe that he got just a little under 83% of the HOF votes.

  39. Bret The Hitman January 31st, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    I feel fantastic about our pitching. I even feel Burnett will have a bounceback year at the bottom of the rotation.

    We just need one hitter to complete this lineup. I thought it was Beltran. Maybe it’s Ethier or Butler or Shin Soo Choo.

  40. GreenBeret7 January 31st, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    BryanHoch Bryan Hoch
    Mark Teixeira says he might lay some bunts down this year to beat the shift. He figures he has lost about a hit a week by being stubborn

  41. blake January 31st, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    “Mark Teixeira says he might lay some bunts down this year to beat the shift. He figures he has lost about a hit a week by being stubborn”

    duh

  42. Vineyard Yankee January 31st, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Considering the source I should probably just shine you, ‘Irrelevant Douchebag’. But since you are such an a** clown who calls many here liars, try sticking your derogatory comments where the sun don’t shine. Probably will be tough for you to make them all fit up there though.

  43. tomingeorgia January 31st, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Is no one else turned off by these personal attacks?

  44. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    “Is no one else turned off by these personal attacks?”

    The Florida primary? I kid.

  45. Tom in N.J. January 31st, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Poughkeepsie Seer?

  46. LGY January 31st, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Quotes from Cashman/Epstein event

    http://twitter.com/andrew_perna

  47. tomingeorgia January 31st, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Rich,
    At least no one called the other “A**clown” down there, but about everything short.

  48. LGY January 31st, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Tar should like this one

    @Andrew_Perna: Cashman when asked if he would handle talks with Jeter differently: No.

  49. Joe from Long Island January 31st, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    tomingeorgia – no kidding. i come here less frequently because this nonsense continues to be tolerated. it is really insulting to anyone who has any level of maturity, and sense of civil behavior. a shame.

  50. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    “@Andrew_Perna: Cashman when asked if he would handle talks with Jeter differently: No.”

    With the benefit of hindsight, I think they should have handled better. Not that I think they should have offered more money, to the contrary their offer was fair, but I think they should have kept all their communications with Close (and by implication, Jeter) private, even after Close made the first public breach of confidentiality.

  51. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Tom, yes I loathe the personal attacks on both the players and the posters. Some posters’ every post is a subtly or not so subtly concealed insult/petty competition/narcissistic act. I too am posting less and less.

  52. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Why can’t we all get along?

  53. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    “Why can’t we all get along?”

    I think the primary problem is that some people here can’t tolerate an opinion that is different than the Yankees’.

  54. tomingeorgia January 31st, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Joe from LI,
    You know, there are a lot of “fighting words” exchanged here which would never be said face-to-face, for fear of a thrashing. When there’s not a lot to talk about, the trash talk comes out. Disagree all you want, lay off the personal attacks. The old heads here trade barbs and jokes with good nature, and so do most of the younger ones. Don’t the rest understand they lose respect when they disrespect so openly?

  55. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Tominga
    adhominem my brother…adhomina homina…

  56. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    “You know, there are a lot of “fighting words” exchanged here which would never be said face-to-face, for fear of a thrashing.”

    I agree with this.

  57. Joe from Long Island January 31st, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    rab is reporting that billy eppler has been promoted to assistant gm. besides being a reward for eppler, i wonder if this was at least in part to help him become more attractive when gm jobs come up.

    good foe eppler, and Jean afterman, steve Donahue

  58. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    “I think the primary problem is that some people here can’t tolerate an opinion that is different than the Yankees’.”

    So the detractors to the Yankee organization’s decisions are innocent when it comes to people not getting along. It’s not that simple nor accurate.

  59. JCPD January 31st, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Joe from Long Island January 31st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    tomingeorgia – no kidding. i come here less frequently because this nonsense continues to be tolerated. it is really insulting to anyone who has any level of maturity, and sense of civil behavior. a shame.

    yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
    Tom, yes I loathe the personal attacks on both the players and the posters. Some posters’ every post is a subtly or not so subtly concealed insult/petty competition/narcissistic act. I too am posting less and less

    ——————————————————————-

    THESE!!

  60. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    The LoHud Civil War continues….

  61. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    “So the detractors to the Yankee organization’s decisions are innocent when it comes to people not getting along. It’s not that simple nor accurate.”

    That’s far too black and white. But I think that’s where the problem originates.

    Personally, I have gone out of my way not to get personal. On Sunday, there was a thread in which like four people accused me of saying things I absolutely never said. To tomingeorgia’s credit, he was the only one who had the character to apologize (again, not that he or anyone else needs to agree with me on anything)..

  62. tomingeorgia January 31st, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    mick,
    Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus vntosissimis exponebantur ad necem.

  63. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Craw, it has nothing to do with which “side” of a discussion one is on. Some posters just show a lack of respect or regard for other posters, regardless of the topic or even the methodology. So, it isn’t based on some bipartisanship. That is a conflation.

  64. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Rich,

    You can paint yourself as the victim, but you have a mean streak too and have said some hurtful things too. Very few are innocent here.

  65. Yogi Mantle January 31st, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    The LoHud Civil War continues….

    ———–

    It’s all Cashman’s fault.

  66. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    “Craw, it has nothing to do with which “side” of a discussion one is on. ”

    Tell that to Rich as he seems to believe it’s only one side guilty here.

  67. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Rich’s recent posts have been very respectful until he has been disrespected.

  68. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    mick,
    Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus vntosissimis exponebantur ad necem.
    ===========================
    right back at ya slick…care to translate?

  69. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    It is not about sides.

  70. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    “Rich’s recent posts have been very respectful until he has been disrespected.”

    That’s not an excuse, but since you’re going to take that tack, I won’t say another word about it.

  71. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Craw

    You’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t think I have a mean streak about sports at all. I have tried very hard not to to come back at you when you question my loyalty for no longer supporting Torre, Girardi, and Cashman.

    I do have a point where I get tired of being attacked for not thinking the Yankees are run superbly, but I pull my punches. At some point, sure I respond, but it has always been in an attenuated manner.

  72. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    “It is not about sides.”

    If you say so.

  73. tomingeorgia January 31st, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    mick,

    Not directed at you, of course!

    “In the good old days, children like you were left to perish on windswept crags.”

  74. Stoneburner January 31st, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    On Sunday, there was a thread in which like four people accused me of saying things I absolutely never said.

    *********

    This is like calling the kettle black – you did the same thing to other people – me included w/ the non-Ubaldo trade. . . . world is gray – everyone has their hands dirty. . . .

  75. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Just to be clear, Craw is basically fine. He is not one of the people who make this blog a pain to read.

    Thanks, yf.

  76. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    no doubt this civil war has montero at the focal point…he seems to be the lightning rod.
    a question of philosophy.

  77. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    “This is like calling the kettle black – you did the same thing to other people – me included w/ the non-Ubaldo trade. . . . world is gray – everyone has their hands dirty. . . .”

    You kept arguing for the Jimenez trade in July. Your constant willingness to trade Montero in July was one of the reasons I stopped posting here. It’s boring.

  78. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    “In the good old days, children like you were left to perish on windswept crags.”
    ========================================
    no doubt there are children that inhabit this crag.

  79. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    OK, Craw. Just calling them like I see them. And I have read the blog the last few days. I disagree with many people here on many topics, but I respect them, and vice versa. However, some people unnecessarily get way too personal here.

  80. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    i’m glad i had my nap…

  81. Stoneburner January 31st, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:27 pm
    “This is like calling the kettle black – you did the same thing to other people – me included w/ the non-Ubaldo trade. . . . world is gray – everyone has their hands dirty. . . .”

    You kept arguing for the Jimenez trade in July. Your constant willingness to trade Montero in July was one of the reasons I stopped posting here. It’s boring.

    **********

    You just do NOT get it – I frickin hardly posted back then – so you go around accusing people of the very thing you were accused of – ohhh the irony of it all. . . . .

  82. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    “You just do NOT get it – I frickin hardly posted back then – so you go around accusing people of the very thing you were accused of – ohhh the irony of it all. . . . .”

    What does volume have to do with? In fact, I remember you only because you posted so often about trading Montero. I never remember you posting here before.

  83. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    And I think people who question posters who they don’t even knows passion for and loyalty to the Yankees is ludicrous. Why are we here?

  84. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    but what do i know…i only come here when i’m bored.

  85. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    mick, Montero may or may not be the lightning rod, but some people’s posting style and dissing of others has nothing to do with Montero.

  86. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    mick, Montero may or may not be the lightning rod, but some people’s posting style and dissing of others has nothing to do with Montero.
    ================================================
    that is a judgment call, let me go to the video tape.
    indeed you are correct.

  87. Stoneburner January 31st, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Your constant willingness to trade Montero

    *******

    Hey – first your wrong. Second – by using the word constant – you mean volume and repeated postings. . . . unbelievable

  88. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    “Hey – first your wrong. Second – by using the word constant – you mean volume and repeated postings. . . . unbelievable”

    OK, have it your way.

  89. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Why are we here?
    ============
    To vent?

  90. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    I’m pro-vent.

  91. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Rich,

    The lack of support for Girardi, Torre or Cashman isn’t the point I was making with you. Just that in the end, we as fans change our minds about managers or general managers especially those that stay on the job for a long time. Eventually, their managerial tendencies that we don’t agree with, drives us from being supporters to non-supporters.

  92. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    it seems there is a civil war for domination of the board.
    certain factions unite, take sides.
    and on and on…

  93. Tar January 31st, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    “@Andrew_Perna: Cashman when asked if he would handle talks with Jeter differently: No.”

    Thanks Blake. If Cashman thinks the Jeter negotiations went smoothly, he is even more delusional than I thought.

  94. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    their managerial tendencies that we don’t agree with, drives us from being supporters to non-supporters.
    ===============
    some are even athletic supporters.

  95. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
    Why are we here?
    ============
    To vent?
    —————
    Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:37 pm
    I’m pro-vent.
    ___
    I thought it was to pre-vent. ;)

  96. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    knicks lookin great tonight, against the pistons…

  97. Stoneburner January 31st, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    “Hey – first your wrong. Second – by using the word constant – you mean volume and repeated postings. . . . unbelievable”

    OK, have it your way.

    ********

    The nerve on this guy – he first whines and complains about people on Sunday attributing things to him he did not say (which I believe with this place ironically – I feel for you on that point) – BUT then he does the same thing to other people. . . .Whether you live in New Jersey or California or Iceland – that is called a hypocrite. Good day sir. . . .

  98. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    is the opposite of pro-vent, con-vent?

  99. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    “The nerve on this guy – he first whines and complains about people on Sunday attributing things to him he did not say (which I believe with this place ironically – I feel for you on that point) – BUT then he does the same thing to other people. . . .Whether you live in New Jersey or California or Iceland – that is called a hypocrite. Good day sir. . . ”

    Did you or did you not support trading Montero for Jimenez?

  100. exiledintampa January 31st, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    http://images.t-nation.com/for.....h_guys.jpg

    We are all tough guys here.

  101. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    “If Cashman thinks the Jeter negotiations went smoothly, he is even more delusional than I thought.”

    I don’t think he said that, what he said is he wouldn’t change a thing about their tactics because he served the role his employer wanted him to. Cashman didn’t make those public comments without the urging of Hal, Hank or Levine. He played the role of attack dog while his bosses can come in and soothe everything over in the end.

  102. J. Alfred Prufrock January 31st, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Ever since this trade, it’s like the Pod People in here.

    The intolerance for even suggesting the trade is an awful one is creepy.

    I’ve had a guy in here tell me to calm down, that I wasn’t thinking clearly – this is a guy I have never even crossed posts with! I did not need to reply to that one.

    Perhaps most idiotic of all is the kook who assumes a comical indignation that I have given up my Yankee season tickets. And now, the stepfords turn their attentions to trying to character assassin the poor kid who got traded.

    The place has really lost a great deal of its charm, especially with the relentless polemics and amateur debating team BS that goes on and on and on…

    It’s my team, too, and if I want to rail at the GM and manager because I think they have made a fatal error, that’s my right. I can say express this however many times to choose to. I have no obligation to stop discussing Montero because others’ anxiety thresholds have been reached.

    Disagreeing is one thing; stalking posters who don’t like the trade with a manic zeal that is the stuff of advanced neurotics is altogether something in excess of what this place should be.

  103. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    a manic zeal that is the stuff of advanced neurotics
    =================================
    some here have degrees in advanced neurotics

  104. stuckey January 31st, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    “I do have a point where I get tired of being attacked for not thinking the Yankees are run superbly, but I pull my punches. At some point, sure I respond, but it has always been in an attenuated manner.”

    As stated clearly several times, it is possible to respect the position that Cashman is anywhere from imperfect to incompetent and having issue with the logic and reason stated in support of these positions.

    These two things are in no way mutually exclusive.

    This is an exceedingly simple premise.

  105. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Is this instance of civility, Stoneburner?

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-2100909

    Hey moron – I used to live in New York – but moved to Texas to take care of my Dad who is ill.

    Hey moron – I get back for Yankees games during the summer.

    Canceling your tickets over this trade shows your true colors.

  106. Crawdaddy January 31st, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Rich,

    By the way, I thought Torre needed to go and probably a few years earlier than he did.

    I’m disappointed in Girardi and thought he would be a more instinctive manager than he’s shown us.

    As to Cashman, his vision needs to start taking hold this year, he’s had six years of basically total control even with some instances of ownership getting in his way. I need to see the fruits of his labor that he and his organization have cultivated since 2006. Furthermore, I think this is his last contract as Yankee GM and either he will get promoted and take Levine’s job which is my hope as I can’t stand Levine or he’s going to leave the organization. Either way, the live expectancy as Yankee GM is past due with him. A fresh voice is needed after 18 years or so.

  107. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    The Yanks are here to enhance our lives, win or lose.
    Of course winning is better.
    They are with us more than half the year to help us through our days.
    They provide pleasure, joy, heartache and controversy.
    What more can anyone ask for?

  108. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    mick, and we spend the other half killing time and each other on Lohud.

    19 days till pitchers and catchers report.

  109. stuckey January 31st, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Here’s another exceedingly simple premise:

    This trade may turn out to be a tremendous mistake. Anybody with an ounce of intellectual honestly would readily acknowledge this.

    Who on the con side is simply willing to acknowledge this trade may work our tremendously in the Yankees favor?

    Anyone?

  110. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Craw

    Well-stated, although it seems to me that Levine handles some business issues that are not in Cashman’s area of expertise. I could see Levine leaving for a political job (that’s where he came from), but I am pretty confident that the Steinbrenners think that he makes them money.

    Again, as I said, I think there were two key non-pitchers in this organization (given age factors), Cano and ….

    So yes, my reaction (or overreaction, I’m sure according to some) flows from that premise.

  111. jacksquat January 31st, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Andrew_PernaAndrew Perna

    Fan: Do you feel comfortable with AJ? Cashman: I’m comfortable with AJ and the work he’s putting in and how much he cares.

    1 hour ago

    (but I’m still trying to trade him)

  112. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    mick, and we spend the other half killing time and each other on Lohud.
    =========================================
    helps you appreciate the better half?

  113. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    “Who on the con side is simply willing to acknowledge this trade may work our tremendously in the Yankees favor?”

    I have already posted that more than once.

  114. mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    whats the difference what we think about the trade at this point?

  115. Bret The Hitman January 31st, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    When they trade Phil Hughes we can move onto other topics. He’s next.

  116. mick January 31st, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    :arrow:

  117. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    I think most people on the pro-Montero side have acknowledged the pitching side plusses. However, there is much less comprehension of what we may have lost from the other side, if you want to get technical. But been there, done that.

  118. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    *potential* pitching side

  119. yankeefeminista January 31st, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Malkin is the best player in the NHL right now.

  120. stuckey January 31st, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    “I have already posted that more than once.”

    To your credit, then

    Can you then also acknowledge that its possible some opposition to the anti-trade argument has focused less on the conclusion about the trade and more about the heightened level of rhetoric that any reasonable person would conclude this trade has created? The repeated railing with manic zeal (to paraphrase) self-described by an acknowledged critic not 20 minutes ago?

  121. G. Love January 31st, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    If you want to rail on the team, the GM for making a fatal error in trading Montero I am 100% behind any of you on that. That’s your right.

    That being said, some of you also could have shown a little more patience for people who railed on Cano in the past when he wasn’t playing his best and when the media were leaking that he was out partying and not taking his job seriously until Larry Bowa and some of the veteran Yankees read him the riot act and he was benched.

    It goes both ways.

    The fact is, we’re all entitled to our opinions in here. Some of us are right. Some are wrong. Some are to be determined.

    Everyone needs to stop taking everything so personally. This place is a diversion and at one time it was a very enjoyable diversion.

    I don’t hold any ill will against someone telling me I was moron for wanting Cano traded for Matt Kemp. I still would probably trade Cano for Matt Kemp or at least consider it.

    The only people I hold ill will for are the few that still kick around who accused me and many others of being racists because we wanted to see Brett Gardner get his chance over Melky Cabrera. As if that whole thing had to do with race. Meanwhile my favorite Yankees were Mo, Bernie and Matsui. That never counted to some of you.

    Those posters still come here. I think one of them changed his name and thinks he tricked all of us into believing he’s not who he was even though his writing style and point of view is identical to the one who suddenly disappeared after that boiled over.

    Either way, be civil with each other. Talk Yankee baseball. It’s actually simpler than you think.

    And to anyone telling the pro-Montero people to get over it? Knock it off. If they still want to talk about that to deal with something that bothered them as a fan, let them. I’ve rationalized it every way I can and I’m still not thrilled with it.

  122. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    “Can you then also acknowledge that its possible some opposition to the anti-trade argument has focused less on the conclusion about the trade and more about the heightened level of rhetoric that any reasonable person would conclude this trade has created? The repeated railing with manic zeal (to paraphrase) self-described by an acknowledged critic not 20 minutes ago?”

    I think reaching that conclusion requires using too subjective a standard, which, from my perspective, is at odds with what a blog is in part for, venting by fans, who are inherently powerless as they continue an increasingly irrational avocation well into adulthood.

  123. mick January 31st, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    fans, who are inherently powerless as they continue an increasingly irrational avocation well into adulthood.
    ==================================
    but prolong their childhoods…

  124. stuckey January 31st, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    “I think reaching that conclusion requires using too subjective a standard, which, from my perspective, is at odds with what a blog is in part for, venting by fans, who are inherently powerless as they continue an increasingly irrational avocation well into adulthood.”

    Then I believe arguments for any standards of discourse or civility are effectively moot.

  125. Rich in NJ January 31st, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    “Then I believe arguments for any standards of discourse or civility are effectively moot.”

    I think that’s subjective.

  126. Vineyard Yankee February 1st, 2012 at 12:29 am

    mick January 31st, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Why can’t we all get along?

    ————-

    A great thought.


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