Getting started in Tampa
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 19, 2012 
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Welcome to spring training, everyone.
Pitchers and catchers officially report to camp this morning. They’ll take their physicals — those who haven’t done so already – before going through their first official workout tomorrow. As far as baseball activity, today should be incredibly light.
The Yankees clubhouse opens to the media at 10 a.m., and Joe Girardi will do his annual preseason press conference at 11.
It’s been a long and often quiet winter, but it’s finally time for pitchers and catchers. Baseball is back.
Associated Press photo
Hallelujah !
MTU-
I second your Hallelujah and raise you one. I believe the MLB.com TV package includes the ST games.
If the Yankees sign Ibanez as expected, at least the fans will have someone to gripe about now that Burnett is gone, well practically gone, awaiting a physical and the Commishes approval.
Yay!
Finally. Now, people can officially complain about on- field rather than off-field performance. Any time a pitcher doesn’t pitch well can now be officially blamed on Cashman. Maybe the pitcher was out catting around with Brian.
Cashman said weeks ago that they were going to look for a bat via trade first instead of signing a FA DH…..did he strike out there or is he still looking?
YT-
You are correct sir. At least some ST games will be televised.
I do not think there is any shortage of targets. Fans can usually find someone to throw under the bus.
It usually doesn’t take long.
Two weeks until first the YES game
My phone has “Blakeautocorrect-itis”
Blake-
I just mentioned on the last thread, that perhaps Cashman could work a trade for A’s newly acquired lefty bat, Seth Smith. The Yankees have enough AAA depth to offer Beane some useful players.
blake-
I think Cashman’s phone is always on but the odds seem small.
As you pointed out it may be that one of the reasons they are going for Ibanez is because they would have little reluctance to cut him should someone better come along at the TD.
Teams in contention have a strong tendency to make mid-course corrections.
Austinmac-
Is Roy Oswalt going to take a pay cut and sign a ML contract?
Are the Astros going to be last in their division, before being sacrificed to the AL west next year? Is the new owner doing anything to improve the team?
MTU,
True..
Until later. Time to get in a workout. Will check back later. Have a great day all.
Just think about how many pitchers we get to see pitch in spring training games? The bees, Mitchell, warren, etc!!!!
I can see a pitching staff like ours being able to throw a lot of quality innings.
That will mean our pen is well rested.
It can also mean that the game can be shortened when necessary when a guy happens to have that bad day.
And it should also mean they will be ready for the PS.
There is a lot to like.
Baseball Mogul February 19th, 2012 at 9:15 am
My phone has “Blakeautocorrect-itis”
Lol!
Looks like Joe’s press conference is delayed due to his flight.
“I think if pineda was sent down to develope his change,it would be the best thing for everyone.
I guess it can be done,but in a tight game,it is tough to throw a pitch that is foreign to you.”
ron-
this would be my preference.
the whole myth that because hughes dominated triple a that he needed no more triple a was a myth.
he would not have dominated had he worked on the pitches he needs now but does not have.
pineda is going to run into similar problem that hughes did with being erratically developed if he has to learn at the mlb level with the yankees. ha may even have an 17-18 win year like hughes did , but he’ll likely fall off again because of the erratic development.
so yes, i say send him to scranton to develop into a complete pitcher. this is the best way for him to hit his ceiling and maybe become an ace.
Looks like Girardi is having visa issues getting out of New Jersey. I wonder if he’ll get fined?
eboland11 Erik Boland
Joe Girardi’s 11 a.m. press conference will be, um, delayed a bit as the manager’s 6 am flight from Newark still on ground
YT,
The only thing worse than the Astros this year may be their attendance. They don’t have one player worth following.
Oswalt may be doing a Damon and pricing himself out of the market. I hope he doesn’t take a last minute Red Sox deal.
“pineda is going to run into similar problem that hughes did with being erratically developed if he has to learn at the mlb level with the yankees. ha may even have an 17-18 win year like hughes did , but he’ll likely fall off again because of the erratic development.”
That’s not necessarily true. Just because Hughes had problems, it doesn’t mean Pineda will too. Besides them being two different individuals, their pitching arsenals are not the same and it remains to be seen how much more development is needed for Pineda and his CU.
Wonder if Oswalt will ultimately just take Boston’s 5 million…….kinda think the Reds are waiting for his price to drop where they want it.
Uniform numbers
Kuroda #18
Jones #22
Delcarmen #43
Branyan #45
Hall #40
Cedeno #97
Pineda #35
so it’s the big day, pitchers and catchers reporting all over mlb camps. so i was very much looking forward to hearing ed randall’s talking baseball coming back to wfan for the first time this year. unfortunately, ed is doing the whole show on gary carter. nothing against carter, but it’s been a week and a half of hearing about him and it’s all been said. so nothing about camps, reporting, spring training, etc. just more and more and more on what a great guy the kid was. very dissapointing… RIP gary (and whitney houston) but its time to get back to the present, no offense…
I’m disappointed that Girardi did not report early to camp.
Just thought I’d get the first complaint about Girardi out of the way!
blake February 19th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Cashman said weeks ago that they were going to look for a bat via trade first instead of signing a FA DH…..did he strike out there or is he still looking?
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Posturing. They just said it to make AJ look like more than a salary dump. After the Pirates declined on G. Jones, the Yankees gave up and dumped salary.
Now it’s time to showcase Hughes and get better value at the AS break for a long term solution in the OF.
“Now it’s time to showcase Hughes and get better value at the AS break for a long term solution in the OF.”
I think they’ll listen to anything…..the issue with Hughes though is if he comes out throwing smoke and pitches well then it’d be tough to trade him…..and if he struggles he’s not going to have much value.
The Yankees prefer Raul Ibanez to Johnny Damon because of cost. Damon is seeking about $5MM while Ibanez will likely be in the $1.5MM-$2MM range.
MLBTR
if this is the case then Johnny needs to get real……just like two years ago. Hopefully he’ll wind up taking what they offer
If Hughes gets back to form, then why would you trade him? Then you have to replace at least 2 of Hughes/Garcia/Kuroda for 2013.
Manny + a $20M Cain or Hamels might be one plan, but any number of things could happen to make that plan fall apart.
If he’s throwing smoke it would be easy as pie to trade him but harder to say goodbye. At the July trade deadline he will only be contracted for a little over a year though and the Yankees need to think more long term. The top of the rotation CC – Pineda – Nova should perform well enough to give the Yankees the ability to sell a pitcher. Banuelos and Betances could be crashing the gates behind Hughes as well. There’s surplus there even if Hughes pitches well. The Yankees could be stacked with pitching.
It’s quite possible that Phil Hughes could be the best pitcher made available at the trade deadline and R. Soriano the best late-inning reliever.
The Yankees could use some young, close to MLB ready OF’s and 3b.
m – makes sense to me.
I have a lot more confidence in Pineda than Nova.
CC – Pineda – Nova – Banuelos – Betances and one of Hamels/Cain/Greinke.
With all that pitching on the horizon you don’t pass up an opportunity to acquire a young OF or 3b for one single year of Phil Hughes (2013).
My guess is the Yanks have no intention of chasing a big name free agent pitcher next year. That’s why they traded for Pineda.
That’s not necessarily true. Just because Hughes had problems, it doesn’t mean Pineda will too. Besides them being two different individuals, their pitching arsenals are not the same and it remains to be seen how much more development is needed for Pineda and his CU.
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pineda did not do well at triple a with the mariners. he was rushed and did well because 97mph fastballs with command are hard to hit at first.
pineda will get absolutely hammered in yankee stadium with just two pitches because of teams loading up with lefties and pineda being a fly ball pitcher. the short right field will get in his head.
he has to develop a change and two seam fastball to make the guessing less than one in two.left handed hitters like adrian gonzalez will annihilate him at yankee stadium with just two pitches.
i give hughes
as an example of just kicking the can down the road .he was never developed correctly. doing it right means developing four pitches. even a pitcher like mariano gets hit if a team sees him enough.
the red sox have seen him so much his record is not that good against them compared to other teams that see him less.
pineda will be seen non stop by the red sox over the next 4-5 years. do you want him doing it with two pitches or four pitches?
i say send him to scranton to develop a very good change and a decent two seamer in addition to his plus four seam fastball and slider.
Randy I —-
You cannot be serious.
Michael Pineda was 7th among all starters in K/9 innings. It’s absurd to think he should go to AAA ball and work on a changeup.
Few if any pitchers truly throw four pitches. Most starters are three pitch guys… except for Freddie Garcia who throws about 17 or so.