Wednesday morning notes: Live batting practice comes early
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 22, 2012 
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Didn’t expect to see this on the morning schedule: Live batting practice.
Four different pitchers — Manny Banuelos, Dellin Betances, D.J. Mitchell and Cesar Cabral — actually faced hitters today. That’s much earlier than usual, but a lot of these guys have been throwing for quite a while, so they’re ahead of the typical spring schedule.
Otherwise, today is more or less what you’d expect from the third workout: Another series of bullpens and the same group of hitters taking batting practice. There are a few clouds in the sky, but otherwise, it’s another nice day for (practice) baseball.
• Rafael Soriano is throwing his first spring bullpen today. No surprise that Mariano Rivera is still not on the list of scheduled pitchers.
• We heard yesterday that Joba Chamberlain is scheduled to throw off a mound today, but his name is listed only in a group labeled “conditioning.” He’s there with Rivera, Pedro Feliciano, Brad Meyers and Matt Daley. Feliciano is obvoiusly coming back from surgery, Meyers hurt his shoulder lifting weights, and Rivera is Rivera. But I’m not sure what’s going on with Daley. He’s hasn’t thrown a bullpen yet.
• George Kontos said his oblique wasn’t too sore this morning. He’s still hoping this is just a minor setback. He wouldn’t have thrown a bullpen today with or without the injury.
• Ray Kruml, Ronnier Mustelier, Shane Brown and Kyle Roller came over from the minor league complex to face pitchers during this morning’s live batting practice.
• Still no locker assigned to Raul Ibanez or Eric Chavez. The locker Chavez used last season is still open, as is a locker right next to Derek Jeter.
• Today’s bullpen groups:
Group 1
Phil Hughes (to Gustavo Molina)
Ivan Nova (to Jose Gil)
Michael Pineda (to Francisco Cervelli)
CC Sabathia (to Russell Martin)
Rafael Soriano (to Austin Romine)
Group 2
Freddy Garcia (to Gary Sanchez)
Hiroki Kuroda (to Russell Martin)
Boone Logan (to Austin Romine)
Dave Robertson (to J.R. Murphy)
Cory Wade (to Kyle Higashioka)
• Batting practice groups:
Group 1: David Adams, Justin Maxwell, Andruw Jones
Group 2: Francisco Cervelli, Russell Martin, Austin Romine, Gustavo Molina
Group 3: Jose Gil, Gary Sanchez, Kyle Higashioka, J.R. Murphy
Take some video of live BP chad!
Sounds like another fine day in Tampa.
Good gosh it would be fun to be a major league ball player…
Chad –
any hint as to what the corresponding roster move will be when Chavez passes his physical and the deal is inked?
I would suppose that the easiest thing would be to put Feliciano on the 60 day dl rather than releasing a player.
Phil Hughes (to Gustavo Molina)
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Facing Imposter Molina?
Make or break time for Phil Phranchise.
BloggingBombers Derek Jeter said he knows what Mariano Rivera is going to do next year … But he’s not telling anyone either.
I’m going to start calling the Yankees the NY Pineda’s.
So…RANDY
I’ll be rooting for the NY Pineda’s this year!!!!
I can’t wait.
GO PINEDAS
Chamberlain and or Feliciano to the 60 day DL.
“Make or break time for Phil Phranchise.”
i think hughes will do well this year simply because when he has a bad year he recommits.
there’s really no reason why he can duplicate his 18 win year.
Rich in NJ February 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 am
“How depressing have things become that Joel Sherman gets what escaped Cashman?”
The thing about Montero’s departure putting more pressure on A-Rod to be A-Rod? And that will be every year until another impact bat arrives.
It’s suboptimal, but baseball isn’t real life, so whatever. I’m resigned to the fact that their payroll will erase many of their misjudgments.
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Yes, that thing about more pressure on ARod. Rich, even your resigned terms may be optimistic. Look who they signed to DH!
blake February 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
Im planning on complaining about Ibanez a lot this year…..it worked with Andrew
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That’s great news blake. You’re right it did work with Andruw, who I was especially hard on at the start of the season. Thank god I have a strong affection for Andruw’s mother lol. I wonder what Mama Ibanez has to offer by way of batting tips.
In honor of Ash Wednesday (for the literary sort):
Because I do not hope to turn again
Because I do not hope
Because I do not hope to turn
Desiring this man’s gift and that man’s scope
I no longer strive to strive towards such things
(Why should the agèd eagle stretch its wings?)
Why should I mourn
The vanished power of the usual reign?
Because I do not hope to know
The infirm glory of the positive hour
Because I do not think
Because I know I shall not know
The one veritable transitory power
Because I cannot drink
There, where trees flower, and springs flow, for there is
nothing again
There isn’t any more pressure on Rodriguez this year than there is any other year. Montero wasn’t on the team before and he did pretty well.
Why don’t the Yankees just release Feliciano? He isn’t going to help the team this year so releasing him won’t cost them any money…
bret-
serious question.
what are you studying again?
At least Ibanez did well with RISP.
which by the way, none of you are even close to coming up with good video.
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My video game footage of Pineda was just as compelling as your video game footage of Kershaw.
Patrick February 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Why don’t the Yankees just release Feliciano? He isn’t going to help the team this year so releasing him won’t cost them any money…
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Releasing him would be looked upon poorly by other players. If you keep him on the DL (where he’s also not harming the team) you’re allowing him to have access to your training facility, doctors and rehab specialists at no cost to him. Release him and he’s on his own. Players notice that stuff.
Randy,
Nutrition and Dietetics.
Going for the RD and the CDE
Starting an online family health media company.
GreenBeret7 February 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
There isn’t any more pressure on Rodriguez this year than there is any other year. Montero wasn’t on the team before and he did pretty well.
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You’re deliberately missing the point, but that’s your affair. Optimal ARod, plus a lineup producing at an optimal level, would preclude or significantly reduce, the need for a hitter like Montero.
So if you believe that will occur (speaking only of THIS season; the “need” for a Montero bat increases with each year forward), then I guess you’d have been on board from “go” with this trade, and we know, through your own comments, that this isn’t so.
Whatever.
The trade still blows.
Releasing him would be looked upon poorly by other players. If you keep him on the DL (where he’s also not harming the team) you’re allowing him to have access to your training facility, doctors and rehab specialists at no cost to him. Release him and he’s on his own. Players notice that stuff.
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Ah I guess that makes sense.
Chad, speaking of video, any tape of the kids–Manny B., Dellin, DJ– facing live hitting? I remember a couple of years ago, this one website/youtuber posted endless camp/ST footage, but can’t for the life of me remember the person/site’s name…
MarcCarig Marc Carig
Confirmed: Jorge Vazquez owns a glove. Who knew?
Vazquez is a statue at 1B, I’m afraid.
“Chad, speaking of video, any tape of the kids–Manny B., Dellin, DJ– facing live hitting? I remember a couple of years ago, this one website/youtuber posted endless camp/ST footage, but can’t for the life of me remember the person/site’s name”
I know ……I think it was a she and she posted here for awhile….im .drawing a blank in the screename though..
I wanna see Gary Sanchez footage
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Yesterday I posted that I hope / figured the Yanks would re-sign Chavez for $900K base so they’d spend only $2M on him and Ibanez and that’s exactly what they did:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....ZOKsrSeP6K
When I saw the Yanks signed Ibanez to a $1.1M base deal I figured they probably want to re-sign Chavez for $900K base so they’d spend only $2M base on the two.
‘Glad Chavez is back on board.
The bench is set: Cervelli, Chavez, Nunez, Jones.
Romine will further develop playing every day in AAA.
I say give Hughes the fifth starter job and tell him it’s his job to lose for a set rotation to go with a set starting nine and bench, this way the only question the Yanks have to answer in spring training is “Who will be the last man in the pen?”
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
At least Ibanez did well with RISP.
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May that continue. Rather have Posada, though. Really would rather have MONTERO!
bret-
are you into alternative nutritional philosophies or just mainstream ones ?
I’m glad to see Sanchez and Murphy getting in on the bullpens. Hopefully, they will get a few spring training MLB at bats.
Non-Yankee question:
If he opens the season pitching well – what (if any) team might entertain a trade for Johan Santana?
He has 2 years at $50 mil remaining on his contract plus an option for a third year at $25 mil (which would likely have to be picked up given his full no trade clause)
Would Boston be interested if the back of their rotation is scuffling in June and July?
Duh Innings,
Yeah except Ibanez’s deal can go up to $4 million based on plate appearances.
blake, there was some footage of Sanchez in that first camp blurb on YES Network.
Do you mean tyanks? This actually was some guy who just taped endless footage and put it up; it was unedited but comprehension. Wish I knew how to find out if he is still filming this year. Think someone on Pinstripes Plus had linked it. 2010, I think. You’d think someone would be filming stuff in this day and age. Where are all you Tampa people?? Get to work!
“blake February 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
“Chad, speaking of video, any tape of the kids–Manny B., Dellin, DJ– facing live hitting? I remember a couple of years ago, this one website/youtuber posted endless camp/ST footage, but can’t for the life of me remember the person/site’s name”
I know ……I think it was a she and she posted here for awhile….im .drawing a blank in the screename though..”
Not tampayanks or some variation, right?
“Would Boston be interested if the back of their rotation is scuffling in June and July?”
Apparently the Sox have pretty much zero financial flexibility ……the Mets would have to eat a ton of money m
*comprehensive
Shame, that was tyanks. She, I believe, has a real job now.
J. Alfred Prufrock February 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
GreenBeret7 February 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
There isn’t any more pressure on Rodriguez this year than there is any other year. Montero wasn’t on the team before and he did pretty well.
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You’re deliberately missing the point, but that’s your affair. Optimal ARod, plus a lineup producing at an optimal level, would preclude or significantly reduce, the need for a hitter like Montero.
So if you believe that will occur (speaking only of THIS season; the “need” for a Montero bat increases with each year forward), then I guess you’d have been on board from “go” with this trade, and we know, through your own comments, that this isn’t so.
Whatever.
The trade still blows.
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There isn’t a point to his remark, unless it was to complain again. Nobody really wanted the trade, and, I think that includes Cashman. The fact remains, though that they needed a quality pitcher and he felt this was it. That trade has nothing to do with putting any pressure on Rodriguez or any other player.
Don’t assume anything. I never said I liked the trade. Just because I don’t throw a temper tantrum doesn’t mean I like it. I can however see why the deal was made.
I wonder how Cabral is looking…
Yea tyanks….that it.
Randy,
I eat wild caught fish every day. Veggies. Pastured meat products like pastured ground beef and pastured chicken eggs. High Omega 3′s. Low omega 6′s. No dairy. No grain. No sugars. Low fruits/fructose. Cook with coconut oil. Drink green tea. Supplement with 20,000 IU’s vitamin D, and supplement with natural amino acid precursors of testosterone and HgH such as GABA, Arginine, Zinc, Vitamin D. Also take vitamin C along with the vitamin D for synthesis of serotonin.
As an RD in training, of course my philosophy is that diet is the primary factor determining state of health and disease state. I’m open to scientifically evidenced alternative approaches to health.
For instance, I could provide 33 citations of peer-reviewed research articles that prove the benefits of a paleolithic/ancestral diet common in hunter gather tribes of yesterday and today.
austin mac-
time to board for flying to sunny florida
try to work on the first floor today.
high places might not be good for you.
you seem a little stressed lately
nuts and berries as well.
blake February 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
“Would Boston be interested if the back of their rotation is scuffling in June and July?”
Apparently the Sox have pretty much zero financial flexibility ……the Mets would have to eat a ton of money m
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What if the Mets picked up whatever he had left this season and split the $5.5 mil club option payout he’s do in 2014. That means the Sox would be on the hook for something like $45 mil over 2 1/2 years.
brett-
sounds good
For those that hate the trade, try saying monteros name three times in the mirror and maybe you can reverse the trade.
BloggingBombers Jeter on Mo: “It?s really hard to talk about someone being gone when they?re still here. I think we?ll just appreciate him while he?s here.?
Don’t assume anything. I never said I liked the trade. Just because I don’t throw a temper tantrum doesn’t mean I like it. I can however see why the deal was made.
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I know why the deal was made, and it has nothing to do with logic.
Cashman confessed he had “a dream.”
Guess the guys in his own backyard who he compiled just are mere shadows of a legendary arm like Pineda’s. All this time, I thought we had some worthy homegrown pitching.
Some things never change.
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Vazquez is a statue at 1B, I’m afraid.
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He’s even worse at third base. A Michael Jackson glove hand and a Venus De Milo arm.
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Shame, that was tyanks. She, I believe, has a real job now.
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Ugh! Damn the man.
And I’m not surprised the Sox are operating without much cash to spend… Who knew they liked soccer so much in Beantown
Patrick February 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Duh Innings,
Yeah except Ibanez’s deal can go up to $4 million based on plate appearances.
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Yeah but he’s still being paid $1.1M base + Chavez’s $900K base = $2M base for the two.
I hoped the Yanks would spend no more than that on these two and that’s exactly what they did / I got : )
That I mentioned $900K base to Chavez before the story broke means I’m a Yankee signing psychic LOL.
Early this offseason I said I thought the Yanks should give Sabathia a new five-year deal with slightly more money per year (say $25M a year up from $23M) and I wasn’t off the mark: they tacked on a fifth year for $25M to his current contract. So I was just practicing my psychic powers then Carrie-style LOL.
Benny Blanco February 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 am
For those that hate the trade, try saying monteros name three times in the mirror and maybe you can reverse the trade.
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“That means the Sox would be on the hook for something like $45 mil over 2 1/2 years.”
I think they’d have to eat a lot of that remaining portion….
Chip – I find it hard to believe the Mets would eat ANY money at this point. Even just $5 million.
Bret, not to get into a big discussion about nutrition, but sounds to me like you are overeating protein…
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GB, I unfortunately had to watch Vazquez play defense, if you want to call it that, for far too long at Trenton. Also swing through curveballs. He did hit some mad powerful long balls when he did connect, but the negatives outweighed the positives.
Four different pitchers — Manny Banuelos, Dellin Betances, D.J. Mitchell and Cesar Cabral — actually faced hitters today. That’s much earlier than usual, but a lot of these guys have been throwing for quite a while, so they’re ahead of the typical spring schedule.
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Chad, that’s good info. Can we have some feedback? Not that I expect anything earth shattering, they’ve only begun. The general focus on Pineda will keep the hounds away from these guys, which is nice for them.
Vazquez is a disaster. Next.
Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
Chip – I find it hard to believe the Mets would eat ANY money at this point. Even just $5 million.
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Ugh, did you have to mention the Mets? All I can think about is how they blocked SWB from playing at Newark this season.
If Bret saw my diet he’d have a stroke..
The Mets and Red Sox have been a good match to be trade partners for the last couple of seasons.. but it never happens. I thought they’d make a move for Reyes.
Ugh, did you have to mention the Mets? All I can think about is how they blocked SWB from playing at Newark this season.
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Don’t remind me, I still hate them for it. Never hated the Mets before that, honestly. But now…. its personal. They f*cked with my city AND my baseball team. I hope Mr. Met falls off a cliff.
Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
The Mets and Red Sox have been a good match to be trade partners for the last couple of seasons.. but it never happens. I thought they’d make a move for Reyes.
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I did too.
I can’t really see any team investing in Johan given how much of an injury risk he is. Though in full disclosure I did say that if he had been able to pitch effectively at the end of last season I would have sooner seen the Yankees trade for him than sign CJ Wilson.
“I thought they’d make a move for Reyes.”
Reyes is a tad better than Nick Punto
Where are the SWB Yankees playing this season?
Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Ugh, did you have to mention the Mets? All I can think about is how they blocked SWB from playing at Newark this season.
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Don’t remind me, I still hate them for it. Never hated the Mets before that, honestly. But now…. its personal. They f*cked with my city AND my baseball team. I hope Mr. Met falls off a cliff.
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I will never give the Mets a penny ever again.
blake February 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
“I thought they’d make a move for Reyes.”
Reyes is a tad better than Nick Punto
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Reyes for Lavarnaway, Reddick and a pitching prospect made all the sense in the world for both teams.
Glad it didn’t happen.
Chip, mostly Rochester. But various other places as well.
I thought that the Red Sox and Tigers both would have made strong pushes for Reyes this winter…shows what I know.
“I would have sooner seen the Yankees trade for him than sign CJ Wilson.”
Why?
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
Bret, not to get into a big discussion about nutrition, but sounds to me like you are overeating protein…
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GB, I unfortunately had to watch Vazquez play defense, if you want to call it that, for far too long at Trenton. Also swing through curveballs. He did hit some mad powerful long balls when he did connect, but the negatives outweighed the positives.
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He’s the right handed version of Juan Miranda. No doubt that he can mash a fast ball, but, if it has a wrinkle in it, he’ll never touch it. Defense? He plays defense like the Knicks.
Reyes for Lavarnaway, Reddick and a pitching prospect made all the sense in the world for both teams.
Glad it didn’t happen.
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Since there’s no pitching prospect who’s past puberty, it didn’t happen.
I’d take Miranda 10 of 10 times over Vazquez.
Carl Crawford kept the Sox away from Reyes…..needless to say…Reyes would have been a much better fit and sign.
Chip February 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
Where are the SWB Yankees playing this season?
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Its more like.. ‘where aren’t the SWB Yankees playing this season?’
Sure, if Reyes could ever stay healthy.
Actually my macronutrient breakdown is something like 60% fat, 30% protein, 10% carbs.
My primary fuel is healthy fats. But the wrong kinds of fats oxidize, create free radicals and trigger inflammation/immune response…so you have to know what you’re doing. I take in a ton of cholesterol for cellular repair and to give my liver a lower workload. My blood vessels are healthy because I don’t consume refined carbohyrdates like sugar and HFCS…these molecules form AGE’s (Advanced Glycation End products) that damage blood vessels, trigger inflammation and create scars that dam up fats.
As far as proteins go – amino acids are the building blocks of nearly every major molecule required for function. Without them, genes can’t transcribe the proteins that make hormones, neurotransmitters, antibodies and enzymes. So if you don’t eat enough essential amino acids or you’re deficient in them then you risk hormonal imbalance, imbalance in brain chemistry, immune imbalance and digestive imbalance.
eboland11 Some Yankee players doing some spring stuff http://yfrog.com/oct94dej
“Defense? He plays defense like the Knicks.”
Watch out, GB, there are plenty of people on here that think they’re watching a dynasty in the making with these Knickerbockers
I eat wild caught fish every day. Veggies. Pastured meat products like pastured ground beef and pastured chicken eggs. High Omega 3?s. Low omega 6?s. No dairy. No grain. No sugars. Low fruits/fructose. Cook with coconut oil. Drink green tea. Supplement with 20,000 IU’s vitamin D, and supplement with natural amino acid precursors of testosterone and HgH such as GABA, Arginine, Zinc, Vitamin D. Also take vitamin C along with the vitamin D for synthesis of serotonin.
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You have money for all this stuff but can’t find $25 to pay Nick?
He’s the right handed version of Juan Miranda. No doubt that he can mash a fast ball, but, if it has a wrinkle in it, he’ll never touch it. Defense? He plays defense like the Knicks.
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Stick to minor league baseball. The Knicks are the 6th ranked defense in the NBA this season.
blake February 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
“I would have sooner seen the Yankees trade for him than sign CJ Wilson.”
Why?
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Mostly the length of the commitment. Figure even if you did have to pick up Johan’s option it is still 3 years to a 32 year old pitcher instead of 5 or 6 years to a 32 year old pitcher.
There was no way that the AAV would be higher with Wilson than with Johan, but the Yankees wouldn’t have been paying for as many back end years.
“Cashman, for his part, says he is most impressed so far with Pineda off the field, finding that he can converse easily with Pineda, and noting that people have told him the Dominican product has worked hard to improve his English.
‘It’s a great sign of intelligence,” Cashman said. ‘And it does seem the (Latin players) who become successful, guys like Mariano Rivera, are the ones who learn the language. It’s almost like they know how to make adjustments, which is important. The ones that never do seem to fade out and don’t make it.’’’
Not a great sign of intelligence for Cashman to come out with such a close-minded comment. I wonder how many languages he speaks fluently.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1026539
LGY, lol.
BloggingBombers Joba Chamberlain said his first session off a full mound went “really, really good.” He’s slated to throw again Friday.
My credit card is maxed out at $7,000. I always say, they have my money already but they’re not getting my health. When I go bankrupt, I will be one healthy poor guy. Your mortgage owns you but do you really want the hospital to take a chunk out of your rear end on top of that?
Randy,
I eat wild caught fish every day. Veggies. Pastured meat products like pastured ground beef and pastured chicken eggs. High Omega 3?s. Low omega 6?s. No dairy. No grain. No sugars. Low fruits/fructose. Cook with coconut oil. Drink green tea. Supplement with 20,000 IU’s vitamin D, and supplement with natural amino acid precursors of testosterone and HgH such as GABA, Arginine, Zinc, Vitamin D. Also take vitamin C along with the vitamin D for synthesis of serotonin.
As an RD in training, of course my philosophy is that diet is the primary factor determining state of health and disease state. I’m open to scientifically evidenced alternative approaches to health.
For instance, I could provide 33 citations of peer-reviewed research articles that prove the benefits of a paleolithic/ancestral diet common in hunter gather tribes of yesterday and today.
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Fruits are natural sugars with tons of fiber and vitamins. Bananas = potassium, orange = vitamin C etc. They also help you lose/maintain weight.
You’re eating primarily two of the five food groups (meat and vegetables), a little of an essential third (fruits), barely a fourth (since the only dairy you eat is eggs from what I’ve read), red meat, and no chicken meat. Unhealthy.
You’re chancing osteoperosis (sp?) by barely having any real calcium and vitamin D by eating just eggs, and heart disease by eating ground beef, the fattiest, most unhealthy of all meats and way too many eggs. Eggs should be eaten in moderation – I’d say four a week tops where you have two twice a week (say Sunday and Thursday.) ‘Nice thing about that is you’d need to buy a dozen eggs only once every three weeks since you’re having only 4 a week x 3 weeks.
Also meat is the most unhealthy of all the food groups because get back to me when someone dies of a heart attack or cancer from eating too much fruit, vegetables, dairy, and grains. And aren’t you bored eating fish every day? Unless you have all kinds of fish which I’m guessing you do. Fish is cool cuz there are so many kinds: flounder, salmon, cod, sole etc.
24oz. of fat free milk the healthiest milk and dairy by amount of cholesterol (8oz. every meal) a day will not hurt you. I agree with no grains as grains are a waste since you can get plenty of fiber and vitamins in fruits and vegetables.
“Mostly the length of the commitment. Figure even if you did have to pick up Johan’s option it is still 3 years to a 32 year old pitcher instead of 5 or 6 years to a 32 year old pitcher”.
Yea bur you know the one guy can pitch …..Id much rather have 5 years of the healthy guy
This conversation is really making me crave a bacon cheeseburger.
‘It’s a great sign of intelligence,” Cashman said. ‘And it does seem the (Latin players) who become successful, guys like Mariano Rivera, are the ones who learn the language. It’s almost like they know how to make adjustments, which is important. The ones that never do seem to fade out and don’t make it.’’’
Not a great sign of intelligence for Cashman to come out with such a close-minded comment. I wonder how many languages he speaks fluently.
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Um.. yeah I dunno that Cash did a great job of expressing himself here..
blake February 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
“Mostly the length of the commitment. Figure even if you did have to pick up Johan’s option it is still 3 years to a 32 year old pitcher instead of 5 or 6 years to a 32 year old pitcher”.
Yea bur you know the one guy can pitch …..Id much rather have 5 years of the healthy guy
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Well that’s the other thing – I don’t completely trust CJ to continue to hold up. He’s thrown a ton of innings for a guy who had only been a reliever until a couple of years ago. I have a feeling that by year two the Angels are going to be in big trouble with this deal.
You’re eating primarily two of the five food groups (meat and vegetables), a little of an essential third (fruits), barely a fourth (since the only dairy you eat is eggs from what I’ve read), red meat, and no chicken meat. Unhealthy.
Very uneducated look at a diet. The 5 food groups are a bad joke.
Listen to Bret, he knows what he’s talking about.
Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2012 at 11:43 am
‘It’s a great sign of intelligence,” Cashman said. ‘And it does seem the (Latin players) who become successful, guys like Mariano Rivera, are the ones who learn the language. It’s almost like they know how to make adjustments, which is important. The ones that never do seem to fade out and don’t make it.’’’
Not a great sign of intelligence for Cashman to come out with such a close-minded comment. I wonder how many languages he speaks fluently.
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Um.. yeah I dunno that Cash did a great job of expressing himself here..
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In fairness I’ve always believed that if you’re going to live and work somewhere you should probably do your best to learn the primary language of that country.
Somebody should open up a organic healthy fastfood restaurant …….they’d make a fortune. Currently eating healthy is too hard and too expensive for most normal working people…..if they made it as easy as ordering a big mac then more people would do it.
Actually Seattle insists their Latin players become integrated and learn English. So, it is more the team’s policy than player initiative.
Other than berries, most fruits are cultivated and their carbohyrdate/micronutrient ratio is unnaturally high.
Two food groups exist because of lobbying efforts of the grain and dairy industries. We as a species existed for hundreds of thousands of years without those food groups. So I would say we must have done something right and benefited from the fish, seafood, wild game, nuts, berries, wild plants. It’s not like that stuff is unhealthy.
I get plenty of calcium when I eat fish bones in sardines and green leafy vegetables. We didn’t become HomoErectus due to lack of dairy.
Meat has all the essential amino acids. To say it’s unhealthy is unscientific.
You’re reading out of handbook.
“Well that’s the other thing – I don’t completely trust CJ to continue to hold up.”
Id still rather have the guy who might get hurt than the guy who already is
Irreverent Discourse February 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
You’re eating primarily two of the five food groups (meat and vegetables), a little of an essential third (fruits), barely a fourth (since the only dairy you eat is eggs from what I’ve read), red meat, and no chicken meat. Unhealthy.
Very uneducated look at a diet. The 5 food groups are a bad joke.
Listen to Bret, he knows what he’s talking about.
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As I understand it, your diet should look like a plate divided into 3 sections – half of it non-starchy veg, 1/4 protien and dairy and 1/4 fruits, grains, nuts and starchy veg.
Blake,
I’ve thought about that but in this age, the money is not in brick and mortar, the big money is really in online businesses that successfully merge local markets. But I agree, there is money in health themed restaurants (lots of them here around Asheville, NC). Thinking bigger, i’d say there’s big money in grocery chains that merge farmer’s markets – like a more localized version of Earth Fare.
“Lots of them here around Asheville, NC). Thinking bigger, i’d say there’s big money in grocery chains that merge farmer’s markets – like a more localized version of Earth Fare.”
Yes there are…..they just opened a Fresh Market where I live and I swear they coukd sell admission tickets to that place and people would buy them.
LGY February 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
He’s the right handed version of Juan Miranda. No doubt that he can mash a fast ball, but, if it has a wrinkle in it, he’ll never touch it. Defense? He plays defense like the Knicks.
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Stick to minor league baseball. The Knicks are the 6th ranked defense in the NBA this season.
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That makes it about right, then. Vazquez is the 6th best defensive 1st baseman in the organization. It still stands. The Knicks are on a hot run on offense because of a fluke streak. More power to him, but, all sports have his type, from the Braves Bob “Hurricane” Hale to “Joltin’ Joe Charbineau to Shane Spencer. I hope that Lin has a great career, but, I wouldn’t count heavily on it.
blake February 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Somebody should open up a organic healthy fastfood restaurant …….they’d make a fortune. Currently eating healthy is too hard and too expensive for most normal working people…..if they made it as easy as ordering a big mac then more people would do it.
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It’s a cost thing. It’s a lot cheaper to use processed meats and cheeses (like subway does) where a sandwich costs them little enough that they can afford to sell it at $5 and still turn a profit than to use healthy stuff and expect people to shell out $8.
The key to any diet (as I’m learning) is moderation.
I’m 6’4″ and weighed 280 for pretty much the last 10 years. Trying to avoid knee problems, back problems and other health issues as I enter my mid 30′s I’ve cut back on carbs significantly (going for things like mashed cauliflower and spaghetti squash and faro instead of mashed potatoes, pasta and rice and basically just cut back on the portions and upped my workout routine to 30 mins everyday – and I’ve dropped nearly 15 pounds in a month. Do I miss a bag of pretzels? Sure. But homemade turkey jerky or homemade parmasean cheese crisps are pretty damned satisfying too.
Farmer’s markets are the best source of local organic produce, and prices are pretty reasonable.
Diet is great but you have to hit the gym. Get the body fat down and the muscle weight up and you have a lot more leeway in what you can eat. Most people are going to stray from their diet anyway.
I get the feeling that Bret is the reincarnation of Euell Gibbons.
The Knicks are on a hot run on offense because of a fluke streak. More power to him, but, all sports have his type, from the Braves Bob “Hurricane” Hale to “Joltin’ Joe Charbineau to Shane Spencer. I hope that Lin has a great career, but, I wouldn’t count heavily on it.
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The Knicks offensive rating has actually dropped since Lin took over.
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Farmer’s markets are the best source of local organic produce, and prices are pretty reasonable.
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That’s very true – hard to find too many of them in the northeast in the winter though.
Too much muscle without fluidity, lengthening of limbs though isn’t a good thing. Yoga, tai chi, etc. Yanks should incorporate the latter.
Yoga can be extremely bad for you, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
As I understand it, your diet should look like a plate divided into 3 sections – half of it non-starchy veg, 1/4 protien and dairy and 1/4 fruits, grains, nuts and starchy veg.
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Bret can speak to this more intelligently than I but it kind of depends what you are going for. A lot of people trying to build muscle will have a lot higher protein content.
I try to divide my diet into three categories .. protein/carb/fat. 40/40/20
Then for carbs, 50% of them should be from non-starchy vegetables, 25% from fruit and 25% from starches.
I’m not an expert but that’s the diet I try to stick to
“Too much muscle without fluidity, lengthening of limbs though isn’t a good thing. Yoga, tai chi, etc. Yanks should incorporate the latter.”
Absolutely. You have to stretch. Lot’s of choice when it comes to stretching.
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Too much muscle without fluidity, lengthening of limbs though isn’t a good thing. Yoga, tai chi, etc. Yanks should incorporate the latter.
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Lots of ball players in football and baseball are doing that. I remember Amani Toomer was big into yoga and dance to keep himself flexible as he got older.
Chip,
I agree…but for me its more of a convenience thing when I eat bad..a lot of people eat bad because they don’t have time to eat healthy without hiring a personal chef. If I could go through a drive through and get a healthy meal that didn’t taste like cardboard……then id do it and id pay more for it than I would be a burger and fries too.
Lin is a very talented and extremely athletic young PG. He’s not Lebron James, who statistically he’s playing just as well as, but he’s a starting PG in this league no doubt.
Anyone that doubts his natural athletic ability should watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inarvjDJuHo
Yoga can be extremely bad for you, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
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Really? How so? I know next to nothing about Yoga but I’ve always heard it’s really good for you so I’m curious to hear more..
Chip February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
This conversation is really making me crave a bacon cheeseburger.
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Seconded.
Carbohydrate is a volatile fuel that requires immediate fast burning. You don’t want that stuff festering in your system at high levels.
The human body is engineered to derive its primary fuel from fatty acids.
Carbs should really be a supplemental, backup fuel.
We are fat burning machines if the the diet is right.
blake, NYC has “Better Burger,”a fast food restaurant with organic hamburgers, veggie burgers, hot dogs and veggie dogs and awesome air fries. It is occasionally one of my go-to places when I am heading to the Stadium, and want some “sleazy” inexpensive baseball food.
YF,
Nice!
Yoga is not categorically bad for you. Hardly. It can be bad for you if you don’t let your body tell you what you should or shouldn’t do or if you are older and overexert yourself. If you see it as a Western style competition or you have a bad teacher who pushes you. However, if you let your body speak to you, it is actually quite good for you.
There is an Energy Kitchen near me and it is the worst food I’ve ever had. If you want to eat healthy do yourself a favor and just cook something yourself, never go to energy kitchen
blake. Better Burger link: http://betterburgernyc.com/
I know what Mariano is going to do next year, but I’m not telling any of you.
YF,
That’s interesting….kinda what I was thinking of except on a bigger and national scale.
Ground lamb burgers.
patrick – Kinda what yankeefem just posted above. Some of the advanced positions people attempt can cause all sorts of nerve and bodily damage. This was one article I read about it recently.
https://www.sott.net/articles/show/239981-How-Yoga-Can-Wreck-Your-Body
Done properly I’m sure there are benefits, but the potential for people to do things properly is always pretty low
LGY February 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
The Knicks are on a hot run on offense because of a fluke streak. More power to him, but, all sports have his type, from the Braves Bob “Hurricane” Hale to “Joltin’ Joe Charbineau to Shane Spencer. I hope that Lin has a great career, but, I wouldn’t count heavily on it.
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The Knicks offensive rating has actually dropped since Lin took over.
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.
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LMAO. You’re just a little over protective of this, aren’t you? You’d think that I was insulting your best little buddy. The Knicks might make the post season, but, so will just about half of the NBA. They’re not exactly the ’73 Knicks.
blake, you’d think someone would have come up with the idea on a more national scale. I’d have Better Burger deliver when I lived in Manhattan. I’d call them; tell them, hi, I have to leave for the Yankee game momentarily. How soon can you get this food to me? Delivery was pretty quick. Very convenient when you crave baseball food and don’t have time to make it yourself.
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Yoga is not categorically bad for you. Hardly. It can be bad for you if you don’t let your body tell you what you should or shouldn’t do or if you are older and overexert yourself. If you see it as a Western style competition or you have a bad teacher who pushes you. However, if you let your body speak to you, it is actually quite good for you.
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Spot on, YF.
If you’re too much of an “end-gainer” and can’t suspend that, and can’t stand the silence of being totally in the present, can’t set aside your fictions, self-story and objects you are normally in pursuit of – like meditation, you won’t be able to “do” yoga.
It’s the reverse of “competing” and “pushing”, as you point out. It’s risking just being, and being interested in disinterested discovery, and “listening” with right-brain intuition (what quantum mechanics tells us is the ground of all being).
Too much of a designer mentality has grabbed and run with yoga as a marketing ploy. If you’re peeking at the other guy or gal to see if their bow is “better” than yours, you’re done. You’ve missed thewhole point, and you’ve missed the adventure and health benefits, which are slow and steady. You barely notice them, but then the expansion just seems to magically arrive. Kind of like watching the sun rise, or a flower open. You can’t do it; your focus waxes and wanes, but suddenly the sun is up, the flower’s petals are open; so you have been “allowing” something, rather than “doing’ something…
patrick – Kinda what yankeefem just posted above. Some of the advanced positions people attempt can cause all sorts of nerve and bodily damage. This was one article I read about it recently.
https://www.sott.net/articles/show/239981-How-Yoga-Can-Wreck-Your-Body
Done properly I’m sure there are benefits, but the potential for people to do things properly is always pretty low
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Interesting..
I think the same can be said for weight training and running though. Any exercise really, you have to do it properly or you will likely get injured
Some of what bret is saying makes sense, like minimizing carbs, esp. simple sugars. but, fruits and vegetables are on the earth for a reason.
personally, i like something that michael polin, a writer who seems to specialize in food and nutritional issues. it’s simple, and covers a lot of ground –
1. eat food – if your grandmother wouldn’t recognize it as food, don’t eat it.
2. just less of it.
3. less red meat, and more fish, and plants.
4. finally, exercise a bit more.
“In fairness I’ve always believed that if you’re going to live and work somewhere you should probably do your best to learn the primary language of that country.”
Oh I don’t disagree with that notion at all, Chip. It just wasn’t worded all that well… the way he words it, the implication seems to be that if you aren’t a decent English speaker you aren’t as committed.
BryanHoch Yankees sign David Aardsma
” Some of the advanced positions people attempt can cause all sorts of nerve and bodily damage”
A friend of my girlfriend went to a chiropractor two days before her wedding. She ended up in a coma after a poorly executed “neck manipulation” tweaked her brain stem.
ID, I figured you were quoting the Times article. There are pros and cons to everything. Running isn’t good for you either or bulking up. All things have their qualifiers, and if you are an overly rigorous Yogi or someone who isn’t in good health, sure like with anything, there is risk.
Yes….The Yanks now have the first name on the baseball register.
RAB has a good post up about the draft and the new CBA and about the amount the Yanks will have to spend in the first 10 rounds……
One thing I didn’t know was that when if you draft and don’t sign a player you still lose the slotted amount for that pick and can’t use it elsewhere…….however you can draft players (like college seniors ) who you can sign cheaply and then save some money for other picks.
The new CBA sucks…..but their will be some areas to cheat it I guess.
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Knicks’ W/L record: 16-17
Everyone get excited!!!
Just playing guys
Pruf, the endgamer thing is the issue. And kind of the opposite of the point. Like the Yogi the Times interviews in the article says, “It’s ego,” he said. “The whole point of yoga is to get rid of ego.” Kind of a given.
yankeefem – Aye, it was a good read
It seemed they were implying that even simple stretches that may not hurt at the time you are doing them can have long term, painful ramifications. Separated enough that people fail to equate the pain with the Yoga they are doing.
Obviously anyone can hurt themselves from over-extending themselves in a workout in one manner or another. This seemed to imply that that extra effort may not even be necessary to hurt yourself through Yoga.
*endgainer AND endgamer
Sometimes I get the urge to exercise…. I usually just try to lie down until the feeling passes.
Aardsma was pretty decent before he got hurt
LMAO. You’re just a little over protective of this, aren’t you?You’d think that I was insulting your best little buddy. The Knicks might make the post season, but, so will just about half of the NBA. They’re not exactly the ’73 Knicks.
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Interesting that you characterize pointing out the facts as being over protective.
Bret..Have you ever tried the Mellow Mushroom in Asheville?
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Pruf, the endgamer thing is the issue. And kind of the opposite of the point. Like the Yogi the Times interviews in the article says, “It’s ego,” he said. “The whole point of yoga is to get rid of ego.” Kind of a given.
yankeefeminista February 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
*endgainer AND endgamer
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I think a good analogy is when a player is “in the zone” – not thinking, at one with his activity, full engagement, etc. That’s a kind of yoga. My dad golfed that way; none of him was missing from what he was engaged in. It’s being the activity. Great athletes, great dancers, etc. are often in that place, I’d say. They call it “letting the game come to me.”
“Bret..Have you ever tried the Mellow Mushroom in Asheville?”
I have….many times
blake February 22nd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
“Bret..Have you ever tried the Mellow Mushroom in Asheville?”
I have….many times
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I have too!.. but I dunno that we’re talking about the same thing…
Tom in N.J. February 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
” Some of the advanced positions people attempt can cause all sorts of nerve and bodily damage”
A friend of my girlfriend went to a chiropractor two days before her wedding. She ended up in a coma after a poorly executed “neck manipulation” tweaked her brain stem.
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That is awful.
Yoga is a lot safer. Half of Yoga is being there to respond to what your body’s saying back to you in the poses. If you don’t listen, sure, you can get hurt. But not listening is not doing yoga. It is not a “body” thing solely.
Lol Shame
“I have too!.. but I dunno that we’re talking about the same thing…”
Lol
ID, I think that the article cautions people who do yoga to be aware that it may not be as benign as you think; that’s a good thing. So, I would just say awareness is your friend. Obviously someone with unstretched muscles who tries to push it can hurt him/herself. Also, some yoga’s are gentler than others. A person who isn’t in optimum shape shouldn’t be trying kundalini yoga or holding poses for very long. But playing sports and other forms of activity, for instance even cycling have their red flags as well, especially if you keep playing/riding etc w/an “asymmetrical” body; however, we all have our little physical quirks/imperfections, so… being alive is a risk.
Jeter would be a good yogi. He has that crazy flexibility. And Mo has the perfect disposition for yoga, but because he has it so deeply within him, he doesn’t even need to do yoga.
Shame Spencer February 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Sometimes I get the urge to exercise…. I usually just try to lie down until the feeling passes.
Mellow Mushroom menu???
A person who isn’t in optimum shape shouldn’t be trying kundalini yoga or holding poses for very long.
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I have a friend who had a 3rd eye “incident” while driving. Nearly totalled his car. Kundalini is NOT for everyone, to say the least. Even “in shape” people should be wary; you open that 3rd eye before you’re ready for that, that would not be a good thing.
I think Hatha, with the right attitude going in, is eminently safe. The “weekend warrior” type mentality could abuse even this, though, and get hurt.
Burger talk is good but French fry topping talk guarantees a Yankee victory.
SAT time.
Finish this sentence.
The Republican Party is to Barack Obama what the LoHud Yankees forum is to ______?
The Republican Party is to Barack Obama what the LoHud Yankees forum is to ______?
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Need multiple choice, otherwise it’s too arbitrary
I’ll go with Peter Abraham.
LGY February 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
LMAO. You’re just a little over protective of this, aren’t you?You’d think that I was insulting your best little buddy. The Knicks might make the post season, but, so will just about half of the NBA. They’re not exactly the ’73 Knicks.
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Interesting that you characterize pointing out the facts as being over protective.
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You only talk about the “facts” as you see them. Go back and read your comments about the game the other night. You blamed that game on everything but, Lin’s poor shooting, poor decisions and bad defense. Mostly, you turned to the old standby….poor officiating. Right now, Lin is the new toy that you’re playing with. What are you going to do when he bombs out? Find a new toy?