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Girardi: “I don’t see why someone couldn’t play their way on”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 23, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Position players report to camp tomorrow, and there’s not much intrigue surrounding their arrival. Now that Raul Ibanez and Eric Chavez are signed to big league deals, every piece of the Yankees lineup and bench seems to be in place. Obviously injuries can happen, but even Joe Girardi has acknowledged that he has a pretty clear idea which position players are likely to make the Opening Day roster.

“You do,” Girardi said. “But I can’t tell you what’s going to happen, so I don’t want (everyone else) to feel like they don’t have a shot.”

Everyone else includes five players who might be big leagues or bust, and despite the odds being against them, Girardi has vowed to give them a “fair shake” to make the roster.

Chris Dickerson and Justin Maxwell fit the profile of fourth or fifth outfielders, but they’re also blocked by Ibanez and Andruw Jones. Both are out of options, so they can’t be sent to the minor leagues without first passing through waivers. If no roster spot opens because of injury or some other unforseen circumstance, both Dickerson and Maxwell could become trade options.

“Having played for five-plus years now, I’ve seen that in the past,” Maxwell said. “The only thing I can do is just worry about what I’m doing on the field and getting back to being 100 percent. Like Joe said, there’s always competition in spring training. Nothing’s set in stone. Just go out and play your game and, Lord willing, good things will happen.”

Russell Branyan, Bill Hall and Jayson Nix are all experienced big leaguers in camp on minor league deals. They all also have outs in their contracts that let them leave without actually going to the minors (not all three outs are unconditional, though I’m not sure which ones have special conditions attached). Branyan signed at a time when the Yankees had an opening for a left-handed designated hitter, and both Hall and Nix signed with hopes of winning a second utility job. Those spots have since been filled by Ibanez and Eric Chavez.

“They’re going to get a fair shake to try and make this club,” Girardi said. “That’s the bottom line. We’ll have to make some decisions, but I don’t see why someone couldn’t play their way on. I don’t. Do you have to make some moves if that’s to happen? Yeah, but I don’t see why they couldn’t.”

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88 Responses to “Girardi: “I don’t see why someone couldn’t play their way on””

  1. Best To Ever Do It February 23rd, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Miami looking to take the Knicks out early. Amare is having a tough yr

  2. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Please wake up STAT

  3. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    “you would never see a Yankee get this overturned.”
    ==========================
    that’s ridiculous. the tiebreaking vote was by an arbitrator. you are suggesting that every possible arbitrator

  4. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    sorry that’s ridiculous. the tiebreaking vote was by an arbitrator. you are suggesting that every possible arbitrator is biased against the yankees.

  5. BD (Boston Dave) February 23rd, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    Roy Oswalt tells the Red Sox he’d rather eat cheetos on his couch than pitch for them.

    All that turd Bobby Valentine has to say is:

    “I think I may have been more comfortable, but I wouldn’t have been totally comfortable,” Valentine said of potentially signing Oswalt.

    But you’re comfortable with your current rotation big guy? That’s a laugh.

  6. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Technical foul?

    F’in embarrassing officiating.

  7. Tom in N.J. February 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Craig Calcaterra:

    procedures such as chain of custody and the proper handling of samples — which were not followed in Braun’s case — exist for a reason. That reason is not, contrary to popular grunting, to make it harder for decent prosecutors or authorities to do their jobs. It’s to ensure the integrity of the system. And, in this case, the integrity of the sample. Every detail that is not adhered to presents another opportunity for a sample to be tainted, lost or otherwise compromised. When that happens the test itself is, by definition, unreliable and any reference to what it may or may not have shown is utterly beside the point.

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......lity-bull/

  8. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Ball Don’t lie

  9. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    i dont mind the way this game is starting for the knicks. they should be getting killed already but the heat have been sloppy and left the knicks right there with them. alot like the way the nets started out the other night.

  10. BD (Boston Dave) February 23rd, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    “That reason is not, contrary to popular grunting, to make it harder for decent prosecutors or authorities to do their jobs.”

    ————

    Popular grunting?

    I haven’t heard anyone argue that.

  11. austinmac February 23rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Thank you hardball talk.

  12. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    NOVAK

  13. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Not goaltending

  14. austinmac February 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    MLBTR reports that Kuroda turned down $13M from the D’Backs. Accepting less money is the new definition of a true Yankee.

  15. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    wow, kuroda turned down the d’backs, big surprise there. not a west coast team but a helluva lot closer than NY. and a team that has an excellent shot at the postseason. nice job, welcome aboard hiroki!

  16. Baseball Mogul February 23rd, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Accepting less money is the new definition of a true Yankee.

    ——————————————————

    Let’s hope Thurman Martin hears that and takes it to heart.

  17. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    not a good quarter for the knicks, and yet they are only down 4. i like it. they are going to get better as the game goes on. i’m impressed with the heat’s transition game and thier ball movement, but they haven’t done alot of damage with all that.

  18. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    NOVAK 2 TIMES!!!

  19. Best To Ever Do It February 23rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Novak

  20. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    NOVAK is a beast

  21. Triple Short of a Cycle February 23rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Another non foul call

  22. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Knicks are deeper than the Heat. Second Quarter demonstrating that.

  23. Nick in SF February 23rd, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    This Steve Novak story has turned into a global highly localized sensation!

  24. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Heat came out 100 mph but no one can sustain that type of energy

  25. Triple Short of a Cycle February 23rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Lin having his worst game to date

  26. Best To Ever Do It February 23rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    That’s how you play Stat take it strong to the hoop

  27. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    STAT is awake

  28. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    it’s great that melo isn’t trying to hijack the offense, but he needs to assert himself.

  29. Best To Ever Do It February 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    That’s because the Heat guards are pressing him the minute he touches the ball

  30. Best To Ever Do It February 23rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Melo could assert himself but then he might get into a back and forth with James.

  31. Triple Short of a Cycle February 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Stat got hacked on that dunk yet no call.

  32. Triple Short of a Cycle February 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Funny how quick they are to blow the whistle when the Heat drive to the basket

  33. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Lin looking a little overwhelmed but that’s too be expected. He’s basically a rookie.

    Hopefully he adjusts in the second half.

  34. Best To Ever Do It February 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Landry is playing really well

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock February 23rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    austinmac February 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    MLBTR reports that Kuroda turned down $13M from the D’Backs. Accepting less money is the new definition of a true Yankee.
    ///

    Probably doesn’t hurt that he can get really good Japanese food in NYC :D.

  36. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Somehow both Lin and Melo have been horrible yet the Knicks only down 1.

    Shows how deep this team is.

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock February 23rd, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Baseball Mogul February 23rd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    Accepting less money is the new definition of a true Yankee.

    ——————————————————

    Let’s hope Thurman Martin hears that and takes it to heart.
    ///

    I’d only hope for that if he were really Thurman Munson.

  38. Triple Short of a Cycle February 23rd, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Lin needs to be sat down

  39. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    http://lockerz.com/s/186551180

    A young Mariners catcher wearing his gear

  40. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    knicks completely outplayed that qtr, yet tied them on points! i’m kinda liking the way this one is going. i smell an upset!

  41. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Playoff atmosphere in a hostile environment. Lin has never seen anything like this.

    I think he’ll settle down in the 2nd half but Baron might get some big minutes.

  42. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    •”There were a lot of nights when I woke up at 3 o’clock in the morning staring at the ceiling,” said Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik to Scott Miller of CBSSports.com when talking about the Michael Pineda-Jesus Montero trade negotiations. “In the end, it was pretty simple: [The Yankees] needed a pitcher, and we needed a hitter. I hated to give up a guy like Pineda.”

  43. J. Alfred Prufrock February 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Nice pic of the kid.

  44. Pat M. February 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    GB…….Your biy Montgomery has caught the attention from at least one team as he’s going to get looked over quite well by one scout in particular……Knicks getting 10 still looks good…..I expect to see Baron Davis a little more in the second half…..

  45. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    k smith is right, stat and melo have to bring it home. melo started asserting himself at the end of the first half.

  46. Joe from Long Island February 23rd, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    pat m – which team might that be?

  47. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Pat M. February 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    GB…….Your biy Montgomery has caught the attention from at least one team as he’s going to get looked over quite well by one scout in particular……Knicks getting 10 still looks good…..I expect to see Baron Davis a little more in the second half…..

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Pat,

    They can want all day long but, he’s a keeper. He’ll end up replacing Robertson in about three years as the setup guy. Nasty. nasty slider. below the knees on the outside. Picture a right handed Guidry/Carlton slider.

  48. Pat M. February 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Doc Joe…….Padres

  49. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Good evening,

    If it is The Padres then the kid is safe, at least they won’t trade the kid to the Sux affilate, :)

  50. Joe from Long Island February 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    thanks, pat m. i’ve never seen him play, but the reports of his k’s, including that 5 in one inning performance, sound really interesting. ditto the interview that the trenton reporter did a few months back. i don’t know what sd has that the yanks might want, but, if gb thinks he’s the real deal, that’s good enough for me.

  51. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    heat just can’t put them away so far. melo starting to feel it. they will need some continued good 3 point shooting from novak/smith, but this is anybody’s game…

  52. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Joe, he reminds me a lot of Robertson in size and style. Not much curve but a hard slider that breaks hard and very late. Fastball around 94-95. That 5 strikeout inning was impressive. all on sliders.

  53. Pat M. February 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    GB….Monty is going to AA Trenton right ???

  54. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    GB7,

    Comparing him to Carlton or Guidry is already very high praise. Do you think he can learn to start or he has been a relief pitcher his whole career?

  55. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Montgomery was a shortstop in college and they had him start a couple of games and then moved him to a closer spot. He was been working on a change-up near the end of the year, but, I didn’t see one. He’s strictly relief.

  56. Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    I assume Montgomery will be in A+. He only has 24 innings in Low A?

  57. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Pat, last year was his first in pro ball and jumped to Charleston fro SI after about 7 games or so. I’m guessing he begins in Charleston and depending on what happens with Kahnle in Charleston, Montgomery could be in Tampa by May. He could get to trenton by layr August, but, I don’t think so. Needs to work a bit on the control and wild pitches, but a 20 year old that struck out over 16 every nine innings has some kind of stuff. another thing is that he kept the ball in the park last year.

  58. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    He may be a fast mover on the system, like Robertson was

  59. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    trenton by ***late*** August

  60. Ys Guy February 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    guy has 24 ip in low a and we have him taking robertson’s place? now THAT’S optimism!

  61. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Luis, I was only comparing the action on Montgomery’s slider to Guidry/carlton….not the entire pitcher.

  62. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Why not? Robertson was deemed Rivera’s replacement 3 years ago.

  63. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    Luis, I was only comparing the action on Montgomery’s slider to Guidry/carlton….not the entire pitcher.

    =========

    I know, i was just wondering if he has such a filthy stuff, why not try him as a starter. My only concern about that is his size, if he is like Robertson he may not have the body to withstand the rigors of starting.

  64. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    I guess that 10 point line was appropriate.

    Lin and Melo were awful offensively.

    Chandler got torched on defense.

    Not going to win a lot of games like that. Certainly not against the best team in the NBA.

  65. Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    He may be a fast mover on the system, like Robertson was

    Yea but robertson had 80 innings in A ball. Montgomery has 28 innings. Drob made it to AA by the end of his first season. but he pitched a lot before then. Just don’t think Montgomery starts at AA. Either back at Low A or an aggressive promotion to A+.

  66. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    He’s about 6 foot or so and maybe 200 punds. Solid build and really good motion. NYYs have a lot of kids coming in the bullpen and all right handed and hard throwers….Burawa, Kahnle, Montgomery, Pinder…even Whitley, Claiborne and Flannery throw pretty hard.

  67. CompassRosy February 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    the forgotten piece?

    http://tinyurl.com/8xcqror

    Jack Zduriencik insisted on getting a starter back in the trade with the Yankees since he was giving one up. While Noesi has limited Major League experience and most of it is out of the pen the hope has been that he will be a part of the rotation this year. As he has gone about his business this spring pitching coach Carl Willis has watched carefully. What has he seen?

    “A very athletic pitcher,” he answered. “A guy with four pitches. We are going to determine which is the better of the two, the curve and the slider, we’re not going to take one away but we want to make sure he doesn’t get in between.”

    There were reports that Noesi showed increased velocity in winter ball this year. Willis hasn’t had a gun on him but said that his throwing well no doubt is connected to the fact that he is now three years removed from Tommy John surgery. He is 100 percent recovered and hasn’t had a lot of innings put on his arm since the surgery. Willis likes his delivery, likes his stuff, likes what he has seen in person and on video. He apparently is not the only one.

    “More than anything else, in talking to people in other organizations who have scouted the Yankees, this guy is really well thought of and there are a lot of people who really raised their eyebrows when they found out he was included in the deal,” Willis said.

  68. Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    The funniest thing about Noesi to the Mariners is listening to Jack Z mispronounce his name 5 different ways during the course of an interview.

    Noesi should be really good in SafeCo. He pounds the strike zone and has an assortment of stuff and can get strike outs.

  69. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    JF and GB7,

    Point taken, not enough innings, but do you think he can end up in AA by the end of next season? or that might rushing a bit to much?

  70. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    I think if he’s effective and healthy, Montgomery could be in Trenton by the end of the 2012 season. He’s the goods.

  71. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Yup, many people said that he was better than Nova, and for me that’s very high praise because i do like Nova a great deal.

  72. Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Point taken, not enough innings, but do you think he can end up in AA by the end of next season? or that might rushing a bit to much?

    Robertson got there in 1 season so its really good chance. If they put him on the aggressive robertson/melancon plan he should be pitching hella innings all year and a good chance to end up at AA.

  73. Red Lobster February 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    GB turned out to be right about Lin

    Guy was a nice story, but he’s not going to take you anywhere against an elite defense because he is very limited.

    Lost 3 of 5 now with a murderous schedule in March – lots of road games, lots of playoff teams. At least we know the Yankees are already elite and will kick @#$ from day 1, no “waiting” for this guy to mesh with this guy or develop chemistry or play defense, etc.

  74. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Question to the forum:

    I read an article about the penalties for going overslot in the draft with the new CBA, as hard as forfeiting your number 1 and 2 draft picks on the next draft, is there any way to get around it?, because the way i see it, they took away the only advantage the Yanks had ( money ), and most of the real talent will be off the board way before the yanks have a chance to pick if they stay competitive on a consitent basis. Is it going to be the same way with the international draft?

  75. yankeefeminista February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    I figure Montgomery will be in Trenton later in year. Supposedly, he might move quickly, depending on progress of his FB command. He only spent two weeks in NYPL before moving up b/c he was just so good.

    Montero will be catching in an intrasquad game on Friday: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....VwsgI?CMP=

  76. Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I read an article about the penalties for going overslot in the draft with the new CBA, as hard as forfeiting your number 1 and 2 draft picks on the next draft, is there any way to get around it?,

    No. You can only go over 5%, everything after that isn’t worth it generally because you lose picks. And losing picks directly reduces your pool the next year. The most you can do is sign guys who will take way under slot and then use the savings on other picks to go overslot. As long as the total is only 5% over its fine.

    If you don’t sign a pick 1-10 you lose the slot money there. They implemented a system and then imposed rules that close off any creative finagling.

    The Yankees

  77. Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    The Yankees would be best served just signing best available at each slot. Players will have very little leverage to ask for over slot.

  78. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    JF,

    In the article i read it said that the Yankees had about 4,1 mil to spend in the draft, so they could in theory spend it in just two guys, and get some other talent in the latter rounds?. boy the yankees, Boras (lol) and the prospects got screwed big time in my view.

  79. BD (Boston Dave) February 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    “boy the yankees, Boras (lol) and the prospects got screwed big time in my view.”

    ———–

    Japan should step up and start offering big money to the top prospects.

    US keeps sniping their guys?

    Right back at ya….

  80. yankeefeminista February 23rd, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Badler doesn’t think International Draft will take place until 2014. Here’s hoping.

  81. Jerkface February 23rd, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    In the article i read it said that the Yankees had about 4,1 mil to spend in the draft, so they could in theory spend it in just two guys, and get some other talent in the latter rounds?

    No. If you don’t draft someone in a round, or don’t sign someone you lose the money.

    So if the 1st round is worth 1 million etc like this

    1: 1 million
    2: .9 million
    3: .75
    4: .7
    5: .6
    6: .5
    7: .4
    8: .3
    9: .2
    10: .1

    If you don’t sign the 2nd rounder, your total draft pool is reduced by 900k. You cannot spend it elsewhere. You could waste your 2nd pick on a guy that would sign for less, but because there is pretty hard slotting now anyone drafted has little leverage to ask for more and the teams have little leverage to try for less. If the guy you draft doesnt wanna sign for a pittance he could torpedo all that money.

    1-10 has slotting, and 11+ signs for like 200k max. Any overage above 200k counts towards the pool.

  82. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) February 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 pm
    “boy the yankees, Boras (lol) and the prospects got screwed big time in my view.”

    ———–

    Japan should step up and start offering big money to the top prospects.

    US keeps sniping their guys?

    Right back at ya….

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I’ve said it for years that eventually, some agent will find a player that’s willing to break the draft by going to court and threaten the anti-truxt or sign with a foreign team for one year and the making himself ineligible for the draft, so he could come back to the States and sign with a team of his chosing.

  83. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    threaten the ***anti-trust***

  84. BD (Boston Dave) February 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    GB7,

    it might need to happen.

    If there are ways to circumvent this new draft, players will find it. If not, players and agents will be forced to explore other options (like signing with a foreign team.)

  85. LGY February 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    :arrow:

  86. luis February 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    GB,

    I think this all draft scheme is collution against the Yankees.

    Yankeefem,

    I was wondering about the international draft, how do you seed the kids?, and even if you do, there is going to be plenty of prospects out of the radar that can be had. I think the best action should have to have a very good scouting department to find the diamonds in the rough that can be found and other teams don’t notice.

    Jerkface,

    Then, it’s going to get very good talent in the draft unless you don’t compete for a while or you have a very extensive scouting program that allows you to pick potential stars that go under the radar

  87. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) February 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
    GB7,

    it might need to happen.

    If there are ways to circumvent this new draft, players will find it. If not, players and agents will be forced to explore other options (like signing with a foreign team.)

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    About 12 or so years ago, I thought that guy might be JD Drew when he went to an independant league to get to a team he wanted, but, Boras didn’t follow through. I’ll take a guy like boras to pull it off….somebody with the money to gamble and the guts to go against MLB.

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