Chavez: “They do practice it”
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 29, 2012 
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Eric Chavez was on the other side of the Flip Play.
“I heard (the Yankees) started practicing the year after,” Chavez said this afternoon.
Chavez was kidding, adding his own touch of humor in the wake of Bobby Valentine’s comments yesterday.
“I didn’t know they practiced it here, but obviously they do,” Chavez said. “We did it last year too and I was like, ‘Oh God, they do practice it.’ When I heard it, I was like, there’s no way you practice that. But I guess they do.”
It was coincidence that the Yankees practiced cutoffs and relays this afternoon. It’s the last set of fundamentals they go over in spring training, and apparently it had been on the schedule for weeks. The timing couldn’t have been better.
mel –
what was bobby v trying to accomplish by chirping away?
jeter gave the right answer as usual.
some don’t give him enough credit for his leadership.
nobody handles the media better than him.
mick
He’s trolling. Ignore trolls.
what was bobby v trying to accomplish by chirping away?
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Bobby Valentine has a lot of positives as a manager, including his gift for connecting with players, understanding them, providing 1 on 1 instruction to help them, and his attention to detail.
His negatives are egotism, a self-centered desire for attention, temper, delusions of grandeur, and some other stuff I’m probably forgetting.
I think this falls under the ‘desire for attention’ and ‘delusions of grandeur’ category. He probably thinks he is doing some strategy to move the conversation off his teams foibles and onto himself.
You forgot his immaturity.
These comments fall under that blanket.
Unless his higher ups agreed that the fans needed his interference, in which case, they are the immature ones.
I don’t like it when m picks 100 wins because that means she thinks they’ll do worse the next year.
Speaking of immaturity.
I see Joba is chirping away on Twitter, along with Young Master Phil.
Can’t wait for those days to end…
what was bobby v trying to accomplish?
It’s how many days into camp and all you and the media are talking about is Bobby V’s comments and not the Red Sox collapse or question marks.
Mission accomplished?
Is that immaturity, or just age-appropriate amusement?
is reading their tweets more or less mature than writing them?
the sox collapse is played out…who needs or wants to talk about it anymore?
seems like he’s a little late to the party.
who needs or wants to talk about it anymore?
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The media, fans. Many on here.
Is that immaturity, or just age-appropriate amusement?
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for 2 underachieving guys with their potential, to spend time tweeting, i call it immaturity.
Joba hasn’t tweeted in 19 hours, and the last thing he did was a trivia contest for his followers.
bobby v will look the clown with a painted mustache on in the corner of the dugout with that loser outfit…
for 2 underachieving guys with their potential, to spend time tweeting, i call it immaturity.
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You don’t even understand what tweeting is. How is it immature? Should they have been drinking instead like Mantle?
why dont i understand what a tweet is?
is there an inner meaning i’m not getting.
twit.
Joba used twitter to have a little trivia contest. He was giving away a signed hat.
CC has been tweeting about Black History month every day.
I think it’s good that these guys have some interaction with fans. The Yanks need more of that.
What does tweeting have to do with maturity?
I’m genuinely serious.
“It’s how many days into camp and all you and the media are talking about is Bobby V’s comments and not the Red Sox collapse or question marks.”
Heh, not with you in this one ID.
The media was never going to focus on it all day, every day. They already had a winter of that.
ST is period of renewal for all teams.
It will surface again if the Red Sox do not do well, if will surface again when the main players take their first turns. It’ll surface again if the “answers” for their question marks struggle. It will surface again any which way when the regular season starts.
And if it really that big a distraction?
Didn’t the Sox fans the flames themselves just the other day by publicly announcing a new clubhouse policy. Did Valentine himself come out and say some of the players didn’t like his new rules?
Think you, like Valentine, are overthinking this one.
I’d like to see Jeter tweeting.
why dont i understand what a tweet is?
is there an inner meaning i’m not getting.
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You don’t comprehend what twitter is, thus you think it is immature, because you do not understand it. Once again, how is it immature? Your internal fear of the unknown and technology is obvious.
Kids and their new fangled tweeting, its immature! They should be throwing baseballs at 10 pm!! Or drinking like the players of old! Or maybe down at a sock hop! – you probably, while wondering if the steam powered printing press is ever going to take off
Whippersnapper’s and there toys.
seems like someone has a problem with authority.
again…why don’t the serious players who don’t come into ST out of shape and throw away another season spend more time on twitter.
twitter is just another way of passing notes in grade school.
Valentine has done a nice job creating noise, deflecting the media from constantly going on about next year, he’s putting himself in the spotlight instead of the players like Beckett who can’t manage to keep his ridiculous mouth shut and admit he has any fault. So all in all he has done a decent job isolating his players so they can go about spring training, while at the same time trying to cause annoyance for the Yankees fielding these dumb questions. Ultimately though he does this stuff, wears out his welcome with the players and becomes a pain to deal with. He should be entertaining for them this year, especially if they start out poorly, he will be a polarizing character in that clubhouse and I can easily see run-ins with Beckett and others.
It’ll be a sad day if Joba gets pulled over for tweeting at 2am. LOVE!
Big question:
Who will the new Pie Guy be?
Yanks need more of that too.
Last year for Swish and his schtick too.
The Pope tweets, he’s infallible. Does he have a problem with authority?
“It’ll be a sad day if Joba gets pulled over for tweeting at 2am. LOVE!”
That will be a danger for the next wave of young whippersnappers:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/er.....-car-fund/
The Pope is not infallible and he has a message.
What is Joba’s message?
Look at me, love me. I’m Joba.
seems like someone has a problem with authority.
again…why don’t the serious players who don’t come into ST out of shape and throw away another season spend more time on twitter.
twitter is just another way of passing notes in grade school.
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You have no authority, yer an old crank.
CC, Swisher, Cano all spend time on twitter.
How is it like passing notes in grade school? None of them tweet during practice? You are trying to say players doing something in their own free time is immature, when all they are doing is communicating with their fanbase or each other in a public setting.
Is writing back to fanmail immature?
You’d love the NPB mick, players have to practice from 6 am to 12 am every day, often running drills to the point of physical exhaustion like taking 1000 fungos non stop. They are unallowed to have sex with their wives or see their family, they live in dorms from the team with strict curfews, and are fed rice, bean milk, and tea as their only meals.
You are basically complaining that a human spends 5 minutes a day talking to another human, which shows how out of touch you are. Back to the home with you.
Albert Pujols has twitter and last I checked he was one of the best hitters ever.
swisher, cano, joba, hughes are birds of a feather…tweet, tweet, tweet.
sop it up fanboy…
What is this Rock and Roll the kids are listing to these days?
Trisha,
96 wins (and 1st in the AL East) for me.
When will Bobby V learn? I know he’s just trying to spice it up a bit….doesn’t bother me one bit, but I do look forward to pounding the Sox this season and watching Bobby cry when his team misses the playoffs and/or gets ousted by the Yankees in the ALCS, if not in the Division Series.
wha’ happnd to the twitter feed? how can life go on?
I hate this!!
*keeps using it*
Troll on.
Stick to your guns, mick, don’t let these punks bully you with their intelligence and comprehension of modernity.
What is this Rock and Roll the kids are listing to these days?
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pretty bad. now where are the days of Zeppelin, the Stones, the Beatles and a thousand other great groups? today’s rock is garbage.
Jeter and A-rod, two of the most immature players in existence, spend a lot of their time going on dates with various women. Hollywood Jeter especially, spends way too much time in movies and commercials. Imagine if he actually cared about baseball?
Have no issues with Twitter. Especially when Hughes is watching Hockey games, CC is playing video games, Joba is spending time with his kid, Roberston is doing charity work, Granderson the same, Swisher and Martin are working out. Much prefer seeing this stuff, then clubing, drinking and eating chicken, shooting themselves by accident, amongst other things. The Torre coached teams in his last few years were far more out of shape than the random guys that show up out of shape now. Remember all those spring training hamstring injuries and obliques we used to get?
intelligence and comprehension of modernity.
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if that’s what you call it Nick, but i doubt you believe that.
Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: Additional wild cards a “go” for this season. Playoffs to expand from eight to 10 teams. Announcement tomorrow. #MLB
pretty bad. now where are the days of Zeppelin, the Stones, the Beatles and a thousand other great groups? today’s rock is garbage.
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Someone has never heard Melt Banana.
How is Jeter immature?
Johannes Gutenberg and his movable type will ruin us all!
How is Jeter immature?
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Not being 100% committed to baseball, duh. While his teammates are tweeting photos of their workouts, he is out on broadway with some broad. Or maybe building a new mansion. Why doesn’t he care about the game?
If the Yanks offense performs close to as well as it did last year….and they avoid significant injuries…..I think will have a pretty good shot at 100 wins this year despite the strength of the AL east…..they have a chance to have the best overall pitching staff they’ve had in a long time…..
JF, those.same qualities made Bobby V a tough listen as an announcer….he knows the game…..he just seemed to try way too hard to make sure everyone knew he knows the game
Jerkface, how is Jeter “immature”? That’s such an arbitrary claim…you don’t know the guy at all and he’s pretty tight lipped about his persona life…you can site gift baskets if you want, but I find that thoughtful…as if to say “You had your chance and you blew it. Here is your consolation prize.” Its like getting the first pick in a fantasy baseball draft for being so bad the season before…sort of.
http://blacksportsonline.com/h.....Ladies.jpg
Winning the division just got a lot more important.
Extra wild card? Eh, ok fine.
1 game wildcard playoff? Atrocious
162 games and you’re gonna let a playoff team, potentially with the 2nd best record in the league, get knocked out if they lose one game????
Just terrible.
Not being 100% committed to baseball, duh. While his teammates are tweeting photos of their workouts, he is out on broadway with some broad. Or maybe building a new mansion. Why doesn’t he care about the game?
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keep making a fool of yourself, banana boy…you call that music..i call it being tragically hip, dufus.
Jerkface, how is Jeter “immature”?
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You didn’t get it. Its ok, what I’m doing is comparing something similar to what Mick is saying to show the absurdity of his statements. Of course Jeter is not immature (maybe), neither are Joba and Hughes for tweeting. They are spending their free time doing different things. In Jeter’s case people. Hughes watches hockey. Joba hangs out with his kid and talks to his fans. Robertson goes fishing. Mick just doesn’t understand twitter so he hates it on principle.
stuckey – I think you’re missing the point though, you’re still talking about Valentine and his changes and not the teams actual issues. He’s focusing everything on himself, and taking that focus off the players.
mick,
There is a lot of quality, new “rock” music out there nowadays, but it’s tough to give it the straight tag of “rock”. You have a variety of different genres of rock now…Indie, Alternative, Grunge, Punk Rock, Emo.
Quite a few great bands out there, but there is also a tremendous amount of junk.
When its all said and done, Radiohead will be one of the greatest Rock Bands of the past 50 years…right up there with Zeppelin (who, for the record, are one of the most notorious rip offs of all time, however great they are…and their music is great…just not entirely “their” music), Pink Floyd, The Beatles.
What about Pearl Jam? The Black Keys? Beck?
Let me ask you this: what decade were you born in?
“1 game wildcard playoff? Atrocious”
I like it….win the division and you don’t have to worry about it.
“Immature” is assuming that taking 2 minutes out of your day to “send a tweet” is being immature or wasting their time… and then complaining about it.
Mick,
You’ve yet to explain WHY Twitter is immature. Come on, I’m sure you’ve got a good reason. Lets go. Also explain why Jeter/A-rod/Anyone doing anything in their free time like commercials, events, dates, autograph signings, golf, NBA allstar game, etc are different from Twitter.
what is the deep meaning behind twitter?
when they reach their 30′s they will no longer tweet.
Jerkface, I kinda jumped in the fold a little bit ago…I saw your post after mine and noted heavy sarcasm. I get it….but ARod is actually very immature…well, maybe super-weirdo is a better term. The guy is just odd. I love him as a player, but as a person he drives me crazy.
Let me ask you this: what decade were you born in?
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Trick question, decades didn’t exist when he was born!
TRISHA – 101 wins.
Is there a tiebreaker?
what is the deep meaning behind twitter?
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Why does it need a deep meaning? What is the deep meaning behind Jeter having his way with a different woman every night?
I get it….but ARod is actually very immature…well, maybe super-weirdo is a better term. The guy is just odd. I love him as a player, but as a person he drives me crazy.
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He has aspergers, don’t hate. He just doesn’t understand some social situations, but he is very well meaning and one of the most helpful players on the Yankees.
What is the deep meaning behind you complaining about how Hughes/Joba spend their free time?
Is you posting here not equally or more immature? At least they know that people are “following” them and want to read what they say.
10 playoff teams with probably 20 still in the race at the late July trade deadline. Only one team will have surplus pitching to deal.
New York Yankees
Alex is a baseball genius. Most geniuses are socially awkward.
BD (Boston Dave) February 29th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Extra wild card? Eh, ok fine.
1 game wildcard playoff? Atrocious
162 games and you’re gonna let a playoff team, potentially with the 2nd best record in the league, get knocked out if they lose one game????
Just terrible.
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Feel the same way
nick, FWIW, mel is a consistent 100-win predictor.
Alex is a baseball genius. Most geniuses are socially awkward.
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The genius that isn’t socially awkward conquers the world. Thats why there are so few of them!
So much of today’s music is directed toward little girls who spend their daddy’s money.
these “ballads” are all you hear.
Rap has taken over the minds of the rest of them, where words are incomprehensible
because if parents knew what they were, they would not let their little daughters listen to them.
in all honesty, bobby v has bigger fish to fry than a flip play from 11 years ago.
seriously, that team is worse than it was last year. and they didn’t do that well in ’11.
if i were bobby, i’d take care of my own clubhouse and worry about the yankees when the schedule dictates.
any predictions for arod? does .280 30/95 seem reasonable?
“He has aspergers, don’t hate.”
Huh?
why the need to “follow.”
Extra wild card? Eh, ok fine.
1 game wildcard playoff? Atrocious
162 games and you’re gonna let a playoff team, potentially with the 2nd best record in the league, get knocked out if they lose one game????
Just terrible.
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I agree.
My idea was have a wildcard weekend where the wildcard teams play each other in a 3 game series with the better team getting homefield for all. The ALDS starts right after and the division winner gets 4 home games. 2-1-2 format. And the ALCS moves to 2-2-2-1
Why does it need a deep meaning? What is the deep meaning behind Jeter having his way with a different woman every night?
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at least he doesn’t tweet about it.
BD – DEFINITELY 1st in the AL East!
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ID, I swear that my first though was 103 wins but then I had to get piggish and go for 105!
Arod is just well Arod. He tries to be personable, he tries to be polished, he tries to be charismatic, but in the end he tries to hard as it’s just not him. Jeter just has that type of personality. So do a few players on this team. It seems though he fits in much better than he did in the beginning and comments like he made in response to Bobby V come off funny and much better than what his response would have been 5 years ago. Now his taste in blond women with muscles is a whole different story.
“why the need to “follow.”
Vicarious interactions have value.
why the need to “follow.”
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You follow a blog and a team, welp.
I really don’t mind the 1 game playoff…..it’ll be exciting so long as the Yanks win the division
Twitter has been removed from the LoHud blog.
How can you be a “follower” if twitter has been removed?
You can’t have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat.
Trisha- put me down for 101. Thank you!
I want those Ritter Sports.
You follow a blog and a team, welp.
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not individuals, dolt.
Another playoff team allows smaller market teams to get in. One game is tough, but any longer series teams that have to wait loose momentum going into the playoffs. It makes teams go all out to win the division. There is now a heavy advantage to the teams that win the divisions who can line up their pitchers where wild card teams would blow thru their #1 to get in. I also think that helps in a five game series where a team with one dominant starter like a Verlander has a distinct advantage rather than a complete pitching staff you need to use in a 7 game series.
Twitter has been removed from the LoHud blog.
How can you be a “follower” if twitter has been removed?
You can’t have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat.
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No it isn’t, and following is the same as subscribing to a news paper, or regularly hanging out on a blog. Once again you fail to understand what you even do every day.
Or you’re just trolling in your typical fashion, which is also a possibility. Either way, keep going! You’re doing great!
Twitter includes lists, which groups like individuals into 1 feed you can read. If you understood twitter you’d know that.
Can two wild card teams come out of the same division then? Can Yankees, Red Sox and Rays all make it?
“Information consolidation is bad!” – An idiot.
jf, you present better arguments when you use #’s to illustrate points you don’t understand…
Don’t tell mick that the Yankees have a twitter account too! Oh the humanity!
Bobby V is probably just trying to connect with fans, and maybe diverting negative attention away from his team. And did anyone ever stop to consider that part of his persona is an act?
Still yet to explain why Twitter is immature and other personal activities aren’t, Mick. What you got? Just hot air?
the only 2 that annoy me are joba’s and hughes…they are constant and needy.
“Don’t tell mick that the Yankees have a twitter account too! Oh the humanity!”
Although, he might be interested in following Yankees Weather. Old people like to know the weather.
https://twitter.com/#!/yankeesweather
who do you follow jerk?
Although, he might be interested in following Yankees Weather. Old people like to know the weather
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Why would he need twitter? He can just feel if his knee is acting up. If his back acts up it means someone tweeted.
the only 2 that annoy me are joba’s and hughes…they are constant and needy.
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How is it constant and needy? What would not be constant and needy? Why is their use of twitter immature but others are not? Please continue to cry about nothing.
Hughes follows (or once followed) Giada. How could that be wrong?
mick,
you’re pointing to pop music and rap…not rock. Pop definitely has some junk these days, no question, but so too does rap. I’m not a big pop or rap guy, but rap is its own genre and there is a lot of great stuff in there too…also a lot of junk. But what is important to keep in mind when evaluating rap and hip hop is that it is also a very significant cultural movement. You may hate guys like Tupac or BIG or Dre, or whoever else, but they struck home with a lot of people who could relate to at least some of what they discuss in their music.
Phranchise February 29th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Arod is just well Arod. He tries to be personable, he tries to be polished, he tries to be charismatic, but in the end he tries to hard as it’s just not him.
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Nah, I think Alex has let that go, pretty much, since coming clean. That, and 2009, took a weight off him; he’s not trying so hard any more.
A friend of mine who’s a NYC chef met Alex, Po and Jeter, as they came into her place for dinner in the East 70s. She said they were all personable, funny, relaxed. They indulged her star-struck nephew, all signed autographs for him. Said they’re good tippers.
you face the same problem some of these athletes face.
get some responsibilities, look in the mirror and face your problems.
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Like your style. Continue keeping these old timers around here “on notice”. They fear anyone that actually bases their understanding of this Great Game on the knowledge they have accrued 1st hand. Don’t let ‘em run you off with their insults and bullying in general.
Next I guess these guys aren’t supposed to text either.
Next I guess these guys aren’t supposed to text either.
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Or talk to each other outside of relaying signals for bunting and hit and runs.
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Like your style.
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Oh how quaint, 2 old know nothings commiserating with each other.
Needy??
Really.
Prufrock, sorry meant he used to do that. He seems to have let go of all of that. Think he has definitely turned the corner with trying too hard. And seems happy with CC, Jeter and others taking the spotlight. People forget he mentored Cano and Melky. He continues to work with the younger players, etc. Doesn’t seem like a self-centered teammate that doesn’t get along with others. In fact you can make the arguement that he does more with these guys than Jeter does.
It’s like reading Benjy Compson.
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They aint even original. Bugs Bunny was doing that, “dog pile on the rabbit” routine eons ago. Hang around. They have No endurance.
They have No endurance.
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How can you know this without FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE?!?!?!
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Been witnessing such for a spell here.
Unknown – good question.
I think the tiebreaker will be the one who guesses the closest number of Sux wins this season.
That means people at some point before opening day have to give me guesses on Sux wins too.
Been witnessing such for a spell here.
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Ah so you were around when Mick creepily stalked, obsessed over, and harassed one of the few female posters off the board? Good good, I see you’ve chosen your allies carefully.
Just another hay brained know nothing shooting off his pistol at the first sign o trouble without checkin down the sights first. Carry on, know nothing!
“When its all said and done, Radiohead will be one of the greatest Rock Bands of the past 50 years…”
Ugh, if that’s the case I’ll side with mick and that damn rock and roll music..
mick
Your a Knicks fan right?
You should follow JR Smith on twitter.
Trisha – I like that! I will go with 88 wins.
mick,
“You can’t have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat.”
Awesome. Pink Floyd. You just made me proud, Mick.
The Floyd is my favorite ever.
jerkface – HAH, I was not the only one that went “well, there’s a shocker” when he said that? Good.
Rambling idiots congregate!
“162 games and you’re gonna let a playoff team, potentially with the 2nd best record in the league, get knocked out if they lose one game????
Just terrible.”
Before 1995, you either one one of 4 divisions, or you were out. after 162 games, just like now.
This gives 4 other teams a chance. What’s wrong with that?
Trisha,
Put me in for 102 wins!
You should follow JR Smith on twitter.
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wouldn’t waste my time….not a follower.
Dynamite Masters Blues Quartet will go down as the greatest rock band of our age.
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Whatever his\her past Might be, names need Not be called. As soon as you resort to names, the discussion digresses rapidly, and the topic whatever it was, is lost.
Awesome. Pink Floyd. You just made me proud, Mick.
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Too bad I don’t tweet.
You could be a follower.
stuckey – I don’t like adding more playoff teams, I’ve always felt that the 162 game season done a perfectly fine job of sorting them out, 5th and 6th (and now 7th and 8th place) don’t need free playoff bids and “chances to win” because they were not good enough all year already.
The problem is the automatic bids for the division winners. If they just flat seeded the playoffs it would be better, with or without wildcards.
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“Clout round the ears face” ? Am I missing something in that translation of your German term for Bobby V?
Jerkface February 29th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Been witnessing such for a spell here.
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Ah so you were around when Mick creepily stalked, obsessed over, and harassed one of the few female posters off the board? Good good, I see you’ve chosen your allies carefully.
Just another hay brained know nothing shooting off his pistol at the first sign o trouble without checkin down the sights first. Carry on, know nothing!
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I’ve been sayin it for a while.. I’m convinced Donny is no stranger to this place and has been hanging here for a while (even longer than he’s been posting, which I know feels like a lifetime already).
trisha -
Put me down for 102 wins.
trisha,
89 Boston wins.
They fear anyone that actually bases their understanding of this Great Game on the knowledge they have accrued 1st hand. Don’t let ‘em run you off with their insults and bullying in general.
So this is not you insulting the intelligence of a majority of the posters here, and your opinion “digressing rapidly and the topic whatever it was lost”?
How come our trolls are getting worse? Honestly, Ruby et al were way more entertaining than this latest TDN crew.
Al:
“A face badly in need of a fist.”
http://betterthanenglish.com/b.....ht-german/
My personal favorite of ALL time is The Cars, and I go back aways. Love the Rick O’Casik look and the style he fronted for their\his great music. I’m also a Big fan of ALL the British Invasion bands. The Animals are one of my very favorites.
“I think you’re missing the point though, you’re still talking about Valentine and his changes and not the teams actual issues. He’s focusing everything on himself, and taking that focus off the players.”
For a news cycle..
Are you suggesting Valentine’s actions has permanently erased the story? The red Sox problems are officially a thing of the past in the media’s eyes?
And given the central issue last years seemed to be lack of accountabilty run amok, is that even what the Red Sox need? A hall pass for 2011? Maybe the NEED reminders of what happened last season, why and the consequences of their actions?
Like I say, overthinking, so much you can see the wires and the strings.
In Hungarian there is a similar word but not the same. Tenyérbemászó literally means ‘crawls to the palm (flat of the hand)’. It means that the person has such an annoying behavior that you want to just hit him.
ROFL…
“How come our trolls are getting worse? Honestly, Ruby et al were way more entertaining than this latest TDN crew.”
Hahahahaha, yea its so true. WCYF at least had the ability to structure an argument. They may have been bad ones, but it was structured.
stuckey – No, it merely provided the intended distraction at the beginning of camp. I’m not trying to turn this into anything bigger than a distraction. What the RedSox need is accountable players and a manager who will put the foot down. They already didn’t acquire those players, so they are relying on Bobby for some authority (a laughable concept really).
If you aren’t looking for the wires and strings, you aren’t looking
This gives 4 other teams a chance. What’s wrong with that?
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It allows weaker teams than in the past to get in, potentially, by only having to win 1 game? The ALDS is the same, so the wildcard team still gets to play their 5 game series, but the WC team could be chosen from 2 vastly different teams in terms of record. I think its worse than just 1 wildcard, which alleviated the problem of really heavy divisions sending a better team home while weaker divisions could skate in.
Just my theory anyways. The first wild card fixed (kind of) a pretty specific problem in a divisional format, while the 2nd wild card is just a ratings grab.
Here are the win totals of the WC and WC2 from the last 5 years:
AL,NL
91,90 90,89
95,91 89,90
95,92 87,87
95,90 89,89
94,90 88,88
I like that the first WC always wins atleast 90 games. The 2nd wild card seems to average 88 which seems worse, because of the 8. It would have been an 85 win team in the NL in 2006.
I also don’t like the 1 game. The wildcard should have some kind of disadvantage, but right now the first WC is so disadvantaged that its quite useless. Its why I liked a 3 game series with the WC. Make the WC work before the ALDS and make the second WC work harder.
seems like the troll accusers could also be called trolls, is that a reach?
For the record, I very generously put the Sux down for 83 wins.
Trisha,
A nice round 100.
- ID -
I’d accept your Fantasy invite, but my play is restricted to 3 teams, and I am booked. Actually, I get requests to play in many Leagues, as I have been playing a Very long time.
Trisha…put me down for 98 wins and # 28. Thank you.
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Thanks, my German is a bit rusty. Clout, meaning a punch in the face, I get it now.
In Hungarian there is a similar word but not the same. Tenyérbemászó literally means ‘crawls to the palm (flat of the hand)’. It means that the person has such an annoying behaviour that you want to just hit him
Or inaccurate, take your pick.
trisha -
I think the Sux finish in 3rd with 89 wins.
muns, I’m with you for #28!
We’ve decided to have a tie-breaker and so now people also have to take a guess at the number of Sux wins (just in case there’s a tie on Y wins.)
As long as I get the numbers before opening day, all is good.
Whatever his\her past Might be, names need Not be called. As soon as you resort to names, the discussion digresses rapidly, and the topic whatever it was, is lost.
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Mick was not interested in a discussion, as he continued to just reheat the barf that was his twitter argument without answering any of the questions posed to him. Those with 1st hand knowledge of the internet recognize when people aren’t interested in a discussion, and just looking to rile the feathers.
Maybe when you get some experience you’ll recognize it, instead of throwing in with another poster just because you think yourself a kindred spirit due to crankism.
donnybrook – OK well your personal limitation to 3 teams is your choice, if you choose not to “put up” then…….. ………..
Phranchise February 29th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Prufrock, sorry meant he used to do that. He seems to have let go of all of that. Think he has definitely turned the corner with trying too hard. And seems happy with CC, Jeter and others taking the spotlight. People forget he mentored Cano and Melky. He continues to work with the younger players, etc. Doesn’t seem like a self-centered teammate that doesn’t get along with others. In fact you can make the arguement that he does more with these guys than Jeter does.
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Phranchise, even when he was in that sort of paranoid phase, he was a baseball scholar. Mattingly used to chuckle and say the team relied on Alex more than anyone for scouting opposing pitchers. I think when it comes to baseball, Alex has always been keenly interested in the game, unrelated to his feats within the game. I was very impressed when I heard him on either WFAN or ESPN-Radio a couple years ago, I guess it was, when he was bragging about the Yankee farm system. He was not just being hyperbolic, but differentiating guys and providing info on some of them. I remember when Brackman was drafted. He was Boris’ guy, too, and Alex sat behind the plate and watched him; came armed with his own exuberant scouting report. Alex is misunderstood, even by himself, I think. He’s now no longer apologizing for who he is – he’s much freer. Good for him, he was mightily abused by “fans” for a long time. The nerdy Alex is the real Alex, and I think that guy is actually very likeable. You’re right – Cano and Melky were the pups he helped raise. The friendships endure, too. Good guy, that ARod.
Boras, that is.
Big Al – I’m thinking 4th place, behind the Jays.
I believe in Yankism, not crankism.
A-rod went to Jeter’s house and turned on the TV and asked what channel the baseball games were on. “Baseball games? I don’t watch that.” Jeter replied. A-rod was shocked! How can you not want to watch baseball?
A-rod just loves baseball. Even if he isn’t playing it.
I believe in Yankism, not crankism.
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You do try to yank a lot of chains, put in the end you’re just pulling your own pud.
trisha – put me down for 86 sux wins
Trisha…I’ll go with 87 wins for the sox ( along with the 98 wins for the Yanks )
89 wins for the Sox.
jerk, you still in high school?
Shame.
I get the same vibe.
ID – again!
My first thought for the Sux was 86 and then I figured I was being too generous!
So you got both of my original numbers!!
mick February 29th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
jerk, you still in high school?
mick – Are you in highschool yet? Just as serious as your above question.
trisha – I’ll share my prize with you when I win :p
trisha -
You may be right, as to a 4th place finish for the Sux. Although I have a great dislike for the Sux, I feel IF they can stay healthy, there is enough talent there to hold onto 3rd place, and the Jays seem to always find a way to fade late in the season.
ID –
- FANTASY BASEBALL TIP -
Get Johnny Cueto. This guy is gonna make a 2012 Cy Young run.
Big Al – it is a toss up!
I’d say it’s the Jays to win or lose. With the wreck of the Titansux meeting up with the SS Bobby V, I see nothing but oceans of trouble.
YAHOO!!!
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One more time!
Big Al – it is a toss up!
I’d say it’s the Jays to win or lose. With the wreck of the Titansux meeting up with the SS Bobby V, I see nothing but oceans of trouble.
YAHOO!!!
DONNYBROOK February 29th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
- FANTASY BASEBALL TIP -
Get Johnny Cueto. This guy is gonna make a 2012 Cy Young run.
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First of all, the Yankees do not like players with his make-up, and the Reds most likely have no intention of moving him.
He only pitched 156 innings last season, and Pineda has a better chance of being a Cy Young winner that that idiot.
Even the most bullish of projections for Cueto ( I believe the fangraphs fans set is the most optimistic) don’t have numbers that would win a Cy Young. He’ll be good, he’s at least a year out from total dominance though.
Trisha,
I have Yanks with 96
Sawx with 90
trisha -
I hope you’re right, and the Sux finish 4th. The stories in the Globe, and other Boston papers would make great comedy reading if that were to happen.
I’m hoping an old friend on the Sux is unable to pitch, and re-injures his back!
I was thinking that Bobby V’s persona has more substance than what he is inside. You know like he doesn’t have a filter?
But he was measured and spoke without resorting so low when he was an analyst.
So, I vote for trying to be funny, get the city on his bandwagon and deflecting attention away from last years bad news bears.
“I’m hoping an old friend on the Sux is unable to pitch, and re-injures his back!”
Plus it appears they are “promoting” Bard to the starting rotation.
This shoudl be fun, fun, fun!
- ID -
– FANTASY TRADE -
(1) KERSHAW
(2) HOWIE KENDRICK
(3) BRENNAN BOESCH
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(1) ADAM WAINWRIGHT
(2) ASDRUBAL CARERA
(3) JORDAN WALDEN
(4) IAN KINSLER
What do you think???????????????
mel, what’s even better is that there is a known dislike between Tito and Bobby (no idea the genesis). So now Tito is the ESPN analyst who will be analyzing his former team. ESPN or no, I can’t see Tito sucking up to his old team, the majority of whom gave him no public support when the hull of the ship was going under!
trisha -
Bard was a total flop as a SP, thus his move to the BP. Now, with few innings to build up his arm, a general lack of control for a SP, he’s put into the rotation, this should be fun to watch.
I might have been too generous thinking the Sux would finish in 3rd place.
Big Al –
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I think bobby v has a filter, he just intentionally lets a lot more pass through it than most. Remember that baseball is entertainment.
Big Al, that’s why I think 3rd is the Jays to lose.
donny – Just for this season? Unless you are severely overvaluing Boesch, that deal isn’t even close… I take the second half of the deal every time. Even if it’s a keeper league that’s the better part of the deal, unless you value Boesch higher than Walden at this point… that’s pretty inconclusive.
First of all, the Yankees do not like players with his make-up,
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What is his make-up?
Donny:
Not enough information to comment. I do think Knedrick and Boesch are going to be the primary beneficiaries of the American League’s offseason 1st baseman haul.
Best To Ever Do It February 29th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
First of all, the Yankees do not like players with his make-up,
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What is his make-up?
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L’Oreal. Because he’s worth it.
Baseball Tonight is actually doing a pretty good 30 minute show right now based on reports out of Yankee Camp. I’m plesantly suprised.
lol
The face of Sox fandom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....hotostream
trisha -
It appears each new season the Jays look as if they are ready to be strong comperitor’s in the AL East, and each season they seem to make the necessary improvements, but, lack the kick to finish strong.
Perhaps they put it together this season, and take the next step up the ladder, and if they can do it at the expense of the Sux, great.
I do not like Madden of the Rays, so if he could finish in 3rd, behind the Jays, that would be a nice dream come true.
Best To Ever Do It February 29th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
First of all, the Yankees do not like players with his make-up,
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What is his make-up?
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Kicking at people with metal spikes is dangerous and stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTO_iOYgvzQ
“L’Oreal. Because he’s worth it.”
LMAO!!!!!
Trisha..thanks for doing this.
BIG AL February 29th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Best To Ever Do It February 29th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
First of all, the Yankees do not like players with his make-up,
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What is his make-up?
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Kicking at people with metal spikes is dangerous and stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTO_iOYgvzQ
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Oh yea I remember that a couple of yrs ago.
Shame Spencer February 29th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
munson15 – it is my pleasure!
Oh yea I remember that a couple of yrs ago.
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August 2010
Well it will be a couple of yrs this August. Has he had any incidents since then?
Trisha,
Red Sox 91 wins.
Just saw footage of AJ taking the bunted ball off his face. Look nasty. Blood started coming out and everything. I guess he is going back to Pittsburgh today to get looked at.
On a funny note – http://i.imgur.com/JyPpO.png
Wow – massive heart attack in his sleep.
RIP Davy.
Best To Ever Do It February 29th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Well it will be a couple of yrs this August. Has he had any incidents since then?
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“During a bench-clearing brawl in the first inning of a game on August 10, Cueto began kicking wildly at various Cardinals, injuring Chris Carpenter and Jason LaRue. Due to the injuries LaRue suffered in the brawl, he was forced into early retirement.”
This is all I need to know about him to say he would not be a fit with the Yankees, a hot head that ruined another players career. The fact he only got a 7 game suspension, given the fact he injured 2 players, and ended one of those players career, is mind boggling, he should have been treated much harsher.
I don’t think he was insinuating the Yankees should go get Cueto, just that he would be good this season.
Let’s not go crazy here.
OT – boy do we live in a messed up world.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.c.....sed_to.php
Big storms heading this way, got to go tie things down, later.
OT – boy do we live in a messed up world.
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http://oglaf.com/
Alex just said on Kay’s show that his teammates make fun of him because when he’s at home he’ll have 2 or 3 games on TV and study the game and early in his career even used to take notes.
BIG AL February 29th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Big storms heading this way, got to go tie things down, later.
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Later Big AL take care
Big Al – we’re in the middle of snow up here – only our second snow of the season!
Alex has always been a baseball freak.
“Alex just said on Kay’s show that his teammates make fun of him because when he’s at home he’ll have 2 or 3 games on TV and study the game and early in his career even used to take notes.”
Nothin wrong with loving the game.
94 wins and a WC birth for the Sox
“When Cashman and the front office makes a move like this it makes you feel like a little kid again” -re Pineda
Unknown, u have a Burnett vid link?
Yankees 101-61
Red Sox 94-68
Rays 91-71
Jays 88-74
Orioles 65-97
Trisha-
101 wins for the Yanks
88 wins for Bobby Bigmouth’s team.
J/K, what do u think Miguel Montero can command on a open market …. more importantly, whether he is a possibility for the Yanks to pursuit in the off season. from afar, I like Montero’s offensive game.
Listening to Kay’s interview live instead of just getting quotes later it’s pretty easy to see why that discussion the other day about the players not lamenting the loss of Montero was so silly.
The reason you hear quotes about Burnett, for example, is because Kay asked Alex about AJ.
The reason Alex didn’t say anything about Montero is because Kay didn’t ask him about Montero.
I haven’t talked to my mom yet, but I’m pretty sure I’m gonna go home to find a 50 something year old woman in her pj’s eating Ben & Jerry’s and watching Monkee reruns while crying tie-dyed tears into her shirt.
Poor baby boomers.
Shame Spencer February 29th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I haven’t talked to my mom yet, but I’m pretty sure I’m gonna go home to find a 50 something year old woman in her pj’s eating Ben & Jerry’s and watching Monkee reruns while crying tie-dyed tears into her shirt.
Poor baby boomers.
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