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The plan for tomorrow’s exhibition against South Florida

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 01, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A few notes on tomorrow’s exhibition opener…

Adam Warren gets the start for the Yankees. He’ll be followed out of the bullpen by Brett Marshall, Dan Burawa, Juan Cedeno, Graham Stoneburner, Ryan Pope and Kevin Whelan. Girardi said there are “a few backups” who will be prepared to pitch if necessary.

Girardi plans to start his regular lineup, but the everyday guys will get only an at-bat or two. The regular infielders (who are also playing in Saturday’s game) will hit only once. The outfielders (who won’t play again until Sunday) will hit twice.

Robinson Cano is the exception to the rule. He will not play tomorrow or Saturday. Cano missed three days of workouts to attend his great grandmother’s funeral, and Girardi said he won’t play in a game until Sunday.

Here’s what I know about this South Florida team: They’re called the Bulls… They’re 4-4… They’ve lost their past three games… They have a reliever with 11 strikeouts in 6.1 innings… They’re hitting .228 as a team… Their season stats are right here if you’re really curious.

 
 

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84 Responses to “The plan for tomorrow’s exhibition against South Florida”

  1. blake March 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    You know those South Florida kids are going crazy tonight…..I used to get excited to play our local A ball team when I was in college….can’t image scrimmaging the Yankees

  2. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    Who cares what their stats are.

    It’s real baseball.

    Sort of.

    :)

  3. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    Marshall will still be pitching to guys older than he is. I’d like to see 2 or 3 clean innings from him.

  4. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Any warm body with a pulse and a bat in it’s hands will be greatly appreciated.

    Our long national nightmare is over.

    Or at the least, ST has officially started.

    :)

  5. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    And since MLB umps aren’t used in B games, the game will likely be the best-called of the season…

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Okay gang that’s it. I cannot do the spreadsheet. If anyone wants to take the data and improve upon what I have done, have at. Otherwise, this is it.

    I have done my best.

    If you want to be part of this glorious tradition and possibly win the highly-coveted Ritter Sports Bars, all you have to do is give me two predictions – one for Yankee wins for 2012 and the other (in case of a tie) for Sux wins for 2012. Simple as that. You do have ’til opening day to get your predictions in. Of course, the cool amongst us have already gotten them in…

    8)

    Chart 1 will appear in this post. Chart 2 will appear in the next post. Only one link per post, according to lohud law!

    2012 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    2012 SUXIAN FUTILITY CHART

    If you do give me predictions, always best to put my name in the post so I will be sure to see it.

    Great night, all.

    :)

  8. Tom in N.J. March 1st, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Trish, nice work and thanks.

  9. David in Cal March 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    trisha:

    Yankees 98 wins
    Red Sox 86 wins

  10. kd March 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    any thoughts on nova for 2012? sophomore slump or continued growth? my personal view is that he’s such a gamer, he’ll continue to pitch at a high level.

    i could see a 17-8 year for him with an era in the high 3′s

  11. blake March 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Looks like Im the most optimistic on the Sox so far at 94 wins…..still have them finishing 7 games behind the Yanks.

  12. austinmac March 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Thanks, Trisha. Well done.

    I can’t wait for the glory. :)

  13. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    “The yankees do not start games with 2 runs. Your analogies were all ill put.”

    I was making a broad point and I think you know it.

    The broad point being having an significant inherent advantage is the antithesis of competition.

    I’m make a simpler analogy. I was always a very tall kid. Whipping my friends in one-on-one basketball did not interest me. Didn’t matter the basket was the same height, and the rules applied equally to both of us. I didn’t cheat to get my advantage nor was it unfair by any reasonable definition of the word.

    It just wasn’t any fun. It wasn’t worthwhile. The win didn’t mean that much. After a while, it got stale.

    I’d wanted to get into pick-up games with older kids. It was a challenge. Not only was my height a non-factor, my age was something I had to overcome and that was enjoyable for me.

    “What you want is to play a chess master and have him promise not to use a bunch of his opening set”

    No, I want to beat him at his own game. That’s the appeal of sports to me. To best someone in a fair competition.

    The point of nascar is drivers winning with their skill and strategy, rather than just having a vastly superior automobile, is it not?

    I’m not suggesting any of the major sports leagues will ever find a perfect solution to evening the playing the field and I’m fine with that.

    I’m not suggesting the Yankees are breaking or taking advantage of the rules.

    All I’m saying it would be tremendously satisfying and fun and different (which appeals to me) to see the Yankees beat their competition in a different sort of contest, or more competitive (notice I didn’t say “fair”) contest.

    I raise the subject (as i usually do) to try to understand the appeal of watching a on-field contest that is extremely weighted in the Yankees favor because of their advantage in the off-the-field contest.

    A response explaining the appeal would be the most appropriate response, rather than presuming to tell me I don’t know what I like.

  14. Pat M. March 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Tricia…..Put me down for 103 for The Bombers & 92 for The BoSox

  15. blake March 1st, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    I don’t know how much upside Nova has over what he did last year but I think he can be that type of pitcher potentially and that’d be really valuable.

  16. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Stuckey nascar drivers are able to win with better built, more finely tuned machines, or superior pit crews. Everyone in baseball has the same chance to sign the same players as the yankees. Built in advantages are the base of sport. You think arod feels bad crushing guys for hrs????? If you want to be david I suggest you stop cheering for goliath instead of cheering for goliath to shrink. Olympics are not fair under your argument nor any sport in the world.

  17. m March 1st, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Anyone else surprised that Mr. “Still eats PB&J before every game” was the MVP of the outing today? :)

  18. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    “nascar drivers are able to win with better built, more finely tuned machines, or superior pit crews.”

    JF, finding minor flaws in analogies (as is your habit) really doesn’t address the point. You and I both know what the basis (if not absolute) precept of Nascar is – the same car – the people who build it, drive it, are the difference makers.

    “Everyone in baseball has the same chance to sign the same players as the yankees. ”

    Ah, the absolute literal response.

    No they don’t. This is what this forum has been kvetching about for months. That more teams (much less every team) are going to have the same chance to accumulate talent like the Yankees have.

    “Built in advantages are the base of sport.”

    Agreed. One would think the part where I outright acknowledged that would clue you in, but apparently not.

    “You think arod feels bad crushing guys for hrs?????”

    Who said anything about “feeling bad.” Projecting much?

    I’m going to take the intellectual leap and assume Arod probably gets more satisfaction out of hitting a HR against Justin Verlander than he does some guy at the end of Baltimore’s bullpen.

    “If you want to be david I suggest you stop cheering for goliath instead of cheering for goliath to shrink.”

    I don’t want to be David. I’m just not scared of not being Goliath, which has been the predominant fixation of this forum for a very long time.

  19. m March 1st, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    So. Braun. He questions the integrity of the collector. The collector defends himself publicly. Then Braun’s lawyer says “the collector’s attempt to re-litigate his conduct is innapropriate”. Huh?

  20. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Every team can sign any player they want, their owners choose not too. That is absolutely true. The players and 25 man rosters and 40 man and minors are your nascar driver. The yankees brand is the car and the pit crew. You want to be david, you said so yourself. You said you did not like beating your tiny friends so you went against older more experienced players. What else did you want? But the challenge?

  21. yankee21 March 1st, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Tricia,

    Please put me down for 96 wins NYY
    and 91 wins BOS

    Thank you

  22. Tom in N.J. March 1st, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Would Braun have gotten off if his sample sat in a receiving facility all weekend? In theory it’s the same situation.

  23. Tom in N.J. March 1st, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    http://www.theonion.com/articl.....aun,27499/

  24. blake March 1st, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Yankeesource ? @YankeeSource

    Trying to find out if Yankees made bid on Cuban infielder Adonis Garcia. Hopefully not, zero defense, zero patience, zero Youtube videos.

  25. Bronx Jeers March 1st, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Wouldn’t one have to litigate something before one is able to re-litigate it?

  26. rm March 1st, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Trish,

    It’s still spring it time tobe optimistic. The Yankees could have the best, Hitting and the Best Pitching in baseball so I;m going way ot on a limb:

    Yankees 108 Wins
    Red Sox 89 Wins

    I would be wonderful if I’m right

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Damn, I really want to see Warren pitch.

  28. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    looks like johnny damon overreached and now his pursuit of 3000 is likely over. bad play, johnny, what’s going to be more important 5 years from now, the extra $3M or the fact that you priced yourself out of the market and didn’t make it?

  29. CompassRosy March 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    WCS ~

    NYY 91
    BRS 88

  30. rm March 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Re: Braun
    The MLB drug testing system is severely flawed. This information is supposed to be confidential. The collector and the lab tehcnician should not have any idea who’s sample they have or even if it a real sample. It should be impossible for the press or anyone else to find out who’s carried any individual plaayer’s sample. There is no need for any person who can in any way intentionally or unintentionally change the results to have any knowledge of the player who gave the sample or even if it is a real sample or a accuracy/reproducibilty test for the lab.

    The system needs to be fixed and MLB needs to be held accountable for breaches in confidentiallity.

  31. CompassRosy March 1st, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Um…
    I meant ECS
    (even though I sometimes talk to myself ;) )

  32. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    how is the collector not going to know who’s sample it is? he’s supposed to actually watch the player pee in the cup to make sure there’s nothing phony going on.

    the leak probably came from braun’s end, he probably talked to several lawyers and one that wasn’t hired spilled the beans.

    no system is perfect.

  33. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    and how do you know espn found out from someone in mlb?

  34. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Unless the system is different than how the military does things, the people in charge of transporting the samples are not the same as the monitors and the sample is never out of the doner’s sight until the sample is sealed and signed for by three people on the seals of the container.

  35. m March 1st, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Bronx,

    I was wondering that. If the collector went before the panel. I was thinking “most likely he did”.

  36. m March 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    The collector’s statement says that Braun watched him seal the sample and signed off on it.

    BTW. People were wondering how the testisterone levels could be so high. I read that in other sports that kind of result does occur. So it’s not as if sitting in soneone’s basement caused it to sprout synthetic hormones.

  37. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    its important to remember here that the player’s agreed to the program as it is. They’ve been using this system for a few years now. if the program is flawed, that’s the player’s fault as well as mlb.

  38. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    m,

    the testosterone was tested as synthetic.

  39. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    I read that in other sports that kind of result does occur.
    So it’s not as if sitting in soneone’s basement caused it to sprout synthetic hormones.

    Diane Modahl had her sample sitting about, and was able to overturn a positive test by showing that sitting around degraded the sample to cause a false positive.

    So you’re right, Braun’s situation has happened in sport before!

  40. Trigeminal Neuralgia Yank March 1st, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Tricia
    Yanks 95
    Sux 88

    Let’s get #28!

  41. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    M,

    My error. I missed the last part of your post.

  42. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    ill take yankees 101 and socks 96

  43. m March 1st, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Anyway, Braun and his people doth protest too much.

    I’ve seen people comment, “you got off, so stop talking”. I agree there!

  44. rm March 1st, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Ys Guy,
    Once the collector gets the sample he should put a number on it and pass it to somebody else. That person should scramble the numbers and pass on to a delivery person who brings it to the lab. There should be no opportunity for anybody to know who’s sample they have and there should be severe penalties for any breach of cofientiality at any point in the process.

    It is inexcusible for this type of confidential information to be made public. It could be used to void the entire testing procedure if the Players association ever decides they are better of without it and challenges the breach of contract.

  45. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Braun and his lawyers never answered nor challeged publically why he tested for synthetic testosterone. All they seem to respond to was the process or handling of the samples.

  46. m March 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    False positive as in 20:1? or as in just outside the norm?

  47. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    rm, how do you know they use #’s? that leaves the possibility of mixing up the #’s. I’m pretty sure they sign across a seal that would split the signature. a # system adds to the possibility of error. so does adding another person to the system, which your plan does, too by adding a courier. it complicates the chain of custody, too.

    the player’s association couldnt do squat about the system they agreed to and agreed to the proceedure being used. and if its so flawed, why didnt the players complain years earlier?

    and again, how do you know the player isn’t responsible for the news getting out?

  48. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    what you need to do is get people who are experts at setting up drug-testing proceedures to come up with what’s best and least likely to be able to be ovecome. oh, yeah, that’s what they did. are you an expert on drug sampling systems and their efficacy?

  49. m March 1st, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Once it leaves the courier it’s numbered. So the Fedex guy wouldn’t know of it was Braun’s or Mitre’s. :)

    BTW. Did you guys talk about Howard? He’s had a setback. Had another surgery on his foot due to an infection

  50. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    just because ryan braun says the system is severly flawed doesn’t mean it is. both mlb and the player’s association put out statements saying the system in use is sound.

  51. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    just because ryan braun says the system is severly flawed doesn’t mean it is. both mlb and the player’s association put out statements saying the system in use is sound.

    And yet the arbiter sided with him :) What is MLB and the Players association going to say? We suck? All testing stinks so everyone is probably using steroids? :)

  52. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    There is one roster of pre-printed adhesive numbers that correspond to the pre-printed numbers on the adhesive labels placed on the bottles. There should only be roster of names with numbers.

  53. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    “And yet the arbiter sided with him What is MLB and the Players association going to say? We suck? All testing stinks so everyone is probably using steroids? ”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    yes, this was a failure on the part of the collector, he didn’t follow the protocol, that’s why the arbiter sided with the player. it was a failing by a person in the system, not by the system itself.. its no different than if the person opening the sample accidentally dropped it on the floor. no system is perfect, humans can always defeat the best designed system.

  54. Nick in SF March 1st, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    The FedEx guy shouldn’t know if the package has urine samples or bobbleheads.

    And don’t tell the FedEx guy that it’s an important package, he’ll be all “Every package we ship is important. No package is more or less important than any other package.”

    And you’ll be all “I don’t want to get into a thing here, I just don’t want any mistakes with this package.”

    And he’ll be all “We try not to make any mistakes with any package. We don’t try harder for certain packages and less hard for others.”

    And you’ll be thinking “I think I offended the FedEx guy.” And the next thing you know you’ll be driving that package across the country yourself because you’re all paranoid that the FedEx guy is going to mess with your delivery. And halfway through rural Ohio you’ll realize that you broke protocol and those vials of urine sitting in the trunk are worthless.

  55. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    yes, this was a failure on the part of the collector, he didn’t follow the protocol, that’s why the arbiter sided with the player. it was a failing by a person in the system, not by the system itself.. its no different than if the person opening the sample accidentally dropped it on the floor. no system is perfect, humans can always defeat the best designed system.

    Yes but Braun in his statement says the system worked, and that what failed is that the result was leaked before he had a chance to defend himself because its a guilty until proven innocent theory. That is what failed. And of course scientific tests are only as good as whats put into them. Which is why the arbiter sided with Braun, not to mention the stuff Will Carroll said about Braun’s team proving letting a sample sit caused the same result.

  56. rm March 1st, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Ys Guy,

    The contract calls for a confidential system. They clearly do not have that. The players association probably will not challenge it because of the fear of the public reaction but if they chose to challenge the lack of confidentiallity they would probably win.

    The lab tech should not be allowed to see the signature of the playe who’s sample they are testing there must be some form of coding and decoding of the identity. If the coding/decoding is challenged the player should be able to opt for a DNA test to prove if the sample is or is not his.

  57. m March 1st, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Lol, Nick. Too many movies for you. :)

    I meant collector in my last post. Technically Fedex would be the courier.

  58. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    If you guys think that was a breach of confidentiality, check this stuff out!

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/0wmm9g

  59. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    The FED-EX guy would know what he was transporting because the the shipping labels has the address and name of the company and it’s destination. If the seal on the box or the bottles were broken, MLB, FED-EX and the testing company would have been notified.

  60. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    you have no way of knowing who leaked the result, its as likely braun let is leak by mistake or by telling somene he shouldn’t as it is that mlb leaked it.

    i have no problem with what caroll or others said about a false positive being possible. as far as i’m concerned, braun was not caught by a reliable positive test and therefore is not guilty of anything. that is the standard i would demand if i was the one taking the test.

  61. m March 1st, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Didn’t you tell me the appeal system worked? Because the testing system failed. He tested positive when he said no way, no how was there any synthetic hormones in his body. Why would he say the system works if he had a false positive?

  62. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Why would he say the system works if he had a false positive?

    Because he was able to win his appeal. Thats the point of the system. There is testing and then an appeal process. Nothing involving pee and complicated chemical tests can be perfect.

  63. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    “Every team can sign any player they want, their owners choose not too.”

    That literal argument is beneath a serious thinker.

    Just because rules don’t prevent any team from signing any “player” they want, practical revenue realities effectively prevent a team like the Rays from having three $25m+ players on their roster the way a division rival can.

    Stick to the argument that you enjoy inequity, you can can’t be wrong about that one.

    Suggesting there isn’t very real inequity is a loser.

    “You want to be david, you said so yourself. You said you did not like beating your tiny friends so you went against older more experienced players. What else did you want? But the challenge?”

    You’re doing a fine job avoiding the simple question that blake and Jack answered. What is the appeal of a system that greatly weights the teams in each opposing dugout?

    Knicks won 8 of 11 games before the All-Star game. What games generated the most excitement and biggest response?

    Lakers, Dallas and Miami maybe?

    You’re really trying to deny the inherent appeal in sports of a team or individual competing against a team or individual of relative competitive strength and coming out on top?

    Good luck with that.

  64. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    No one would even know about this if it wasnt leaked, and I don’t buy the lawyer leaking it. Like a rich as hell baseball player is going around to a bunch of lawyers trying to find the best one. The MLBPA probably handed him the best.

  65. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    he may well have approached several lawyers. or someone could have overheard him telling someone, or he could have told someone he trusts who then turned around and told espn. its definitely 50-50 who spilled the beans on the positive test.

  66. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    You’re really trying to deny the inherent appeal in sports of a team or individual competing against a team or individual of relative competitive strength and coming out on top?

    Good luck with that.

    An individual game is more exciting when you beat the odds. I don’t want my team to be constantly forced to beat the odds, I’ll take consistent winners that excel at running the team. In the NFL I’m a Bucs fan. We have season tickets. The owners are horse dung and the team sucks more often than not, because while the system for fielding a team is fair just like in baseball the owners and the team itself stink. When they win its exciting, but I’d rather be the patriots or colts or steelers or packers. No one wants to play for the bucs and the owners won’t spend the money. They want to win without spending money on it that other teams do. If owners dont wanna spend, get them out of the sport.

  67. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    i personally like the changes in luxury tax penalties, and i want to see an international draft. these changes may work against the yankees in the short term, but they are good for baseball as a whole, imo.

  68. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    There’s 104+ names out there that should never have been released, but, they were. Why is it that nobody made much of a stink after this happened? As long as they got a big fish, that’s all the media and public cared about. That pig should have been in jail until she squealed on whoever provided her with the list. It certainly shouldn’t have been released in the Mitchell report, after he had a chance to delete the names that would have embarrassed the Red Sox. They threw a couple of long released or retired names like Crawford and Alexander out there.

  69. Nick in SF March 1st, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Jerry: I got the call.

    George: Jean-Paul?

    Jerry: Jean-Paul!

  70. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    jailing journalists to reveal thier sources is against the constitution.

  71. Nick in SF March 1st, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    stuckey, I would have gone with this:

    “That literal argument is beneath a serious thinker, Jerkface.”

  72. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    i personally like the changes in luxury tax penalties, and i want to see an international draft. these changes may work against the yankees in the short term, but they are good for baseball as a whole, imo.

    The draft is inherently unfair. As its purpose is to create a cyclical league where teams rise and fall based on an arbitrary system instead of a teams ability to work and attract talent.

    Its hard to have an international draft, as there are no real standard leagues for IFAs to grow up in and develop in like college baseball. Teams run training centers where players stay and learn, and then sign with the team. Those kids are the ones who are going to get hurt.

    They should get rid of the draft, let those kids get on the open market.

  73. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    No one knows the real teams revenue, its all closed book. Its in baseballs best interest to hide it and cry poor so they can lean on public funding for stadiums and threaten cities with moving franchises. Baseball owners be rich, spend to win, baby.

  74. Tar March 1st, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    “In the NFL I’m a Bucs fan”

    HAHAHAHAHa

    Oops sorry.

  75. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    well, like it or not, the draft not only isn’t going away, but it will cover international amateurs too within a few years.

  76. Ys Guy March 1st, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    ““In the NFL I’m a Bucs fan”

    HAHAHAHAHa

    Oops sorry.”
    ———————————
    i have that same feeling every time i meet an eagle’s fan!

  77. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    well, like it or not, the draft not only isn’t going away, but it will cover international amateurs too within a few years.

    Ok I choose not! Its bad for the kids, bad for the sports health overall.

  78. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    HAHAHAHAHa

    Oops sorry.

    Its ok, bucs fans make fun of our team more than anyone else, mostly no one else cares.

  79. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Scraton’s ST schedule

    http://blogs.thetimes-tribune......witterfeed

  80. Joe from Long Island March 1st, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    there seems to be some confusion over the collection process, and the science involved. i guess that shouldn’t be too surprising, given that infomation has come out in dribs and drabs. I get the impression that no one talking seems to have access to all the necessary information, and those who do aren’t talking.
    like always.

    the gist that i get is that ryan braun’s lawyers got him off on a technicality. but, that still leaves unanwered the question of how the synthetic testosterone got there in the first place. while braun doesn’t have to answer that, at this point, inquirig minds want to know. unfortunately, we are unlikely to get an accurate answer on this.

    i’m not surprised that braun is affecting all sorts of righteous outrage. he’s got a lot of money at stake, money in endorsements that he may lose. a nytime story, last fall before this came down, reviewed ryan braun, inc. it’s quite an enterprise.

    i readily acknowledge that i do not have all the facts in this case. however, from what has been reported, and my science background (such as it is), my conclusion is that mr. braun did something he shouldn’t have done. like ricky ricardo once said of lucy, he’s got some ‘splainin’ to do. only, i’m not expecting him to do so. there’s too much money at stake.

    funny, it always seems to come down to money. how ’bout that.

  81. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    “I don’t want my team to be constantly forced to beat the odds,”

    We’re not effectively talking about that, you’re moving the goalposts.

    We’re talking about an unquantified lessening of odds stacked greatly in the Yankes favor, a significant portion of which is an inherent regional advantage.

    “If owners dont wanna spend, get them out of the sport.”

    Again, NOT the issue at hand in our exchanges. We’re talking about one team having the means to spend exponentially more than some teams have the means to, regardless of desire.

    Citing cheap owners on one end of the spectrum in an attempt prop up significant spending advantage on the other is amateur hour.

    “The draft is inherently unfair. ”

    Ah, of course.

    “As its purpose is to create a cyclical league where teams rise and fall based on an arbitrary system instead of a teams ability to work and attract talent. ”

    Man, you’re right. The Yankees never get the the credit they deserve for single-handedly building the greater NY metropolitan area into the large media market in the world.

    It’s a shame.

  82. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Man, you’re right. The Yankees never get the the credit they deserve for single-handedly building the greater NY metropolitan area into the large media market in the world.

    Something about the Yankees being incredibly successful and well managed has something to do with it.

  83. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    I don’t believe the system is weighted like you think, so the appeal of the current situation is that the yankees put a lot back on the field and I’m not particularly interested in lowering the competition down to the level of those who do not wish to compete at their fullest.

  84. rm March 1st, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    GreenBerret

    “That pig should have been in jail until she squealed on whoever provided her with the list.”
    I agree this was a document sealed by the court that somebody chose to leak. That is a very serious offense that caused great harm to several players who took “confiedential test” with no punishment attached for failing. They should never have atached any names to any of he samples for that round of tests

    Joe from Long Island
    “he’s got some ‘splainin’ to do”

    I agree with that too. I expect there will be some sort an explanation. He has certainly acted like he has some sort of credible buttcomplicated explanation and I expect we will hear it at some point and there will still be some doubts. I hope he does. I don’t think the fact that he didno challenge the results at the hearing is relevant because I beleive the rules make it extremely difficult to do this. If he can prove the result is wrong MLB may need to revisit some of those rules.


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