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Thursday morning notes: Cano returns

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 01, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Robinson Cano was back in the clubhouse this morning after missing a few days to attend his great grandmother’s funeral. She was 91 years old and had cancer.

“We were waiting for it,” Cano said. “They took her to the hospital on Friday, and on Saturday they said, just wait, she’s got no chance.”

Cano always called her by her nickname, Lelen, and although she was technically his great grandmother, she raised Cano’s father. She understood what it meant to be a baseball player, and although she never came to the United States to see Cano play, she watched him on television.

“Two days before I came here I went to see her,” Cano said. “She was like, ‘I’m on my way.’ I was like, ‘No, you need to cheer for me.’ She goes, ‘Oh, I’m too tired to cheer for you. You’re good.’”

• Players are already stretching in the outfield, getting ready for today’s quick workout. Players are supposed to be off the field in about an hour so they can shower for today’s team bonding event.

• Tomorrow is the first exhibition game against South Florida. Adam Warren has the start, but Dave Robertson and Rafael Soriano will be the first Yankees on the mound. They’re each throwing early batting practice tomorrow. The Yankees have a 10:35 a.m. stretch for a pregame workout.

• George Kontos is scheduled to throw tomorrow. It will be his first time since injuring his oblique during a bullpen last week.

• Reggie Jackson has arrived. Among the highlights of the morning was watching Reggie introduce himself to Hiroki Kuroda.

• Today’s early batting practice pitchers:

Field 1 (Chris Dickerson and Doug Bernier hitting)
Hiroki Kuroda (to Russell Martin)
Freddy Garcia (to Gary Sanchez)
Michael Pineda (to Gary Sanchez)
Clay Rapada (to Jeff Farnham)

Field 2 (Colin Curtis and Brandon Laird hitting)
CC Sabathia (to Gustavo Molina)
Phil Hughes (to Jose Gil)
Boone Logan (to J.R. Murphy)
Cory Wade (to Ryan Baker)

• Ivan Nova and D.J. Mitchell are throwing bullpens today. It will be Nova’s final tuneup before starting Saturday’s Grapefruit League opener.

• Looks like there are no specific fielding drills scheduled for today. I’m sure players will still take groundballs and flyballs during batting practice, but there does not seem to be a specific series of fielding drills planned.

• Today’s batting practice groups:

Group 1
Robinson Cano, Derek Jeter, Brandon Laird, Eduardo Nunez

Group 2
Eric Chavez, Ramiro Pena, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira

Group 3
David Adams, Bill Hall, Jayson Nix, Jorge Vazquez

Group 4
Doug Bernier, Corban Joseph, Russell Martin, Gustavo Molina

Group 5
Brett Gardner, Curtis Granderson, Raul Ibanez, Andruw Jones, Nick Swisher

Group 6
Chris Dickerson, Justin Maxwell, Cole Garner, Dewayne Wise

Group 7
Zoilo Almonte, Colin Curtis, Melky Mesa

Group 8
Francisco Cervelli, Jose Gil, Gary Sanchez, J.R. Murphy

Associated Press photo

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195 Responses to “Thursday morning notes: Cano returns”

  1. Tackelberry March 1st, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Still nervous about Nova even though doctors gave him a clean bill of health. Forearm strains alwats raise a red flag and can be a precursor to TJ surgery down the road. Hope Nova stays healthy

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 9:49 am

    I remember when the top team in the AL played the top team in the NL and that was called the World Series. When did the proliferation of baseball teams actually happen and is that the reason playoffs started?

  3. NYYROC March 1st, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Even though it is just BP, must be exciting for a kid like Sanchez to catch Garcia & Pineda.

  4. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Yay, Cano’s back!! :) Sweet story about his grandmother.

  5. tomingeorgia March 1st, 2012 at 9:55 am

    trisha,
    A brief history of MLB expansion:
    http://jameslincolnray.suite10.....on-a107913

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Erin, are you here?

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Thanks tom. Jerkface also gave me info in the last thread. I’m also going to read what you’ve linked to.

  8. dogface March 1st, 2012 at 9:57 am

    When did the proliferation of baseball teams actually happen and is that the reason playoffs started?

    ===============================

    I think 1968 was the last year the AL and NL were both one division and the winners after 162 played in the WS.

  9. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Trisha- I’m here.

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 9:58 am

    VERY interesting. I actually thought it was fine when there were 16 teams and just two leagues!

    :)

  11. blake March 1st, 2012 at 9:59 am

    JF,

    I get your point…..I just don’t see it as being that big of a deal and while that is a negative…..I think their are more positives than negatives from the change…..JMO.

  12. Tackelberry March 1st, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Is Sanchez expected to start back at Charleston this year or will he be in Tampa?

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Question: are my posts with links in them showing up? It says that my comment is awaiting moderation, but I can see it on the screen. Does everyone else see it when it says that?

  14. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:04 am

    I think their are more positives than negatives from the change

    The only positive is the best record gets a better chance. But it adds a negative (worse team gets in) and exacerbates existing ones (weak division winners, better WC winners getting short changed)!

    Problems all start from their stupid division alignment. The game would be in a better place if ALL teams were aspiring to beat the yankees/red sox and upping their game, instead of dumb central/west teams coasting on their crappy divisions.

  15. dogface March 1st, 2012 at 10:04 am

    I think their are more positives than negatives from the change

    =====================================

    Nothing good about a playoff system than puts any of it’s participants at a disadvantage, beyond HFA.

  16. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:05 am

    Question: are my posts with links in them showing up? It says that my comment is awaiting moderation, but I can see it on the screen. Does everyone else see it when it says that?

    If you have more than 1 link your post won’t go through.

  17. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 10:05 am

    trisha

    You can only post 1 link at a time.

  18. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:06 am

    I don’t like how MLB is set-up at this time. I’d prefer 1 league, playing a balanced schedule, and then let the top 4 teams make the playoffs, 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3. This would be much fairer, and give a better chance of the 2 best teams meeting in the WS. How can you judge teams when they don’t play a balanced schedule? I don’t like inter-league play either, because again its unbalanced, and thus in my opinion unfair to some teams. The only time I want to see the AL play the NL is in the ST game and the WS.

  19. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Trisha-try one link at a time. Then they should go through

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Thanks guys! I’ve continued to post two links and ask everyone to tell me if they’re working, and nobody has answered.

    :D

    One at a time.

    http://db.tt/OCyDN9MN

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:07 am

    http://db.tt/qH9Fmp3q

  22. champ809 March 1st, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Sanchez will start in Charleston with Murph in Tampa and each may move a level quickly if they get off to hot starts which I would expect from both guys.

    I’m hoping the Yanks put Higgy in Trenton and just tell him do your thing and play your game

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:08 am

    I wanted to see if the links worked for you. That way you can all check on my numbers.

  24. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Trisha you really should just setup your prediction contest as a public read only google doc. Its tough handing out a link to a .docx file that could contain viruses.

  25. upstate kate March 1st, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Trisha
    are you doing predictions again? put me down for 102 please.

  26. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 10:09 am

    People are looking for perfection in an imperfect world.

  27. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Not to mention the meta deta in word files that contains personal information.

  28. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Meta data.

    “People are looking for perfection in an imperfect world.”

    Baseball took something slightly imperfect and just added even more imperfection. There will never be perfection with teams spending different amounts on payroll or having different talent levels in their front office, but what baseball is doing is putting more emphasis on being in a shallow division. They could keep divisions, use a balanced schedule, and go with top X teams if they really wanted too. That would still be imperfect, but it would be MORE perfect.

    Why not get as close as you can?

  29. dogface March 1st, 2012 at 10:12 am

    Problems all start from their stupid division alignment. The game would be in a better place if ALL teams were aspiring to beat the yankees/red sox and upping their game, instead of dumb central/west teams coasting on their crappy divisions.

    ===========================================

    This is true, although the Yankees (and Red Sox) oftentimes benefitted from the crappy division thing you are talking about. From 1999 thru 2007, the AL East wasn’t a very tough neighborhood.

    What they should do, if they’re insistent on X number of teams in the playoffs is have one division, a balanced schedule, and the top 4 teams go the post season, 1 playing 4, 2 playing 3.

  30. Trigeminal Neuralgia Yank March 1st, 2012 at 10:12 am

    Any Yogi sightings?
    Who was his ” shadow ” last year who drove him etc?

    Whatever happened to lee mazzilli?

  31. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:14 am

    dogface -

    I see you agree with my thinking. :)

  32. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:14 am

    jerkface, how do I do that?

    I joined something called DropBox because Verizon doesn’t provide space for data upload. This is supposed to be a public read onlyt. Did it come through as something else?

    The last several years I used my friend’s Cox account but she switched to Verizon so now I have nowhere to go.

    :(

  33. Rich in NJ March 1st, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Interleague play without a uniform DH rule is stupid, and puts AL pitchers at an increased risk of injury at NL parks.

  34. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:15 am

    “Nothing good about a playoff system than puts any of it’s participants at a disadvantage, beyond HFA.”

    Why?

  35. dogface March 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Oops! I see I’ve repeated pretty much what Big Al has with regard to playoff format. Big Al? That dude is a genius.

  36. Tom in N.J. March 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am

    “Perfect is the enemy of good.”

    In your quest for perfection you often end up sacrificing/ ignoring/overlooking something that is already good.

  37. upstate kate March 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am

    TNY
    Ron Guidry is Yogi’s driver. There is a book coming out in April about their relationship. I think it is called “Driving Mr Yogi”, or something like that.

  38. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am

    “Why not get as close as you can?”

    I think this is closer.

  39. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:11 am
    Meta data.

    “People are looking for perfection in an imperfect world.”

    Baseball took something slightly imperfect and just added even more imperfection. There will never be perfection with teams spending different amounts on payroll or having different talent levels in their front office, but what baseball is doing is putting more emphasis on being in a shallow division. They could keep divisions, use a balanced schedule, and go with top X teams if they really wanted too. That would still be imperfect, but it would be MORE perfect.

    Why not get as close as you can?

    ———————————————————

    You’re looking for perfection based on how you see it.

    Someone else could see it totally opposite.

    Who’s right?

  40. randy l. March 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am

    “Isn’t it possible a team’s record doesn’t totally reflect how good or bad a team is?

    hahahahahhahahahahhahahahhaha

    and al those tests you took were just at a bad time.

    of course, it could be true.

    any result is a snapshot in time.

    but that’s what competitive results are.

    i once lost a two person beach volleyball final to a team that we beat 15-0 in a previous match. they came through the losers bracket and it was pitch dark when we played. you couldn’t even see the other players on the other side of the net.

    on the final point point the ref said “it sounded in” .

    so they were the best team when the criteria was”sounded in”

    the old fashioned baseball schedule of 154 games with two teams meeting in the world series pretty much guaranteed tow really good teams meeting in the world series.

    the present system doesn’t guarantee that at all.

    it’s a crap shoot and mostly luck once it gets to the postseason.
    most fans simply don’t care.
    so mlb doesn’t either.

  41. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Trisha- I’ll go back and check, but I think I predicted 101 not 100. I don’t want one game to rob me of Ritter Sports!! ;)

  42. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:18 am

    As I see it, MLB wants more and more money, so they are content on following the path of the NHL and NBA, which is more like everyone except a couple of teams make the post season. Why bother with a post season when the talent is weak, and in most cases a joke of a system, IMO.

  43. dogface March 1st, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Nothing good about a playoff system than puts any of it’s participants at a disadvantage, beyond HFA.”

    Why?

    =======================================

    Mostly because it’s stupid. Why bother playing ‘em, if you’re putting particpants at a disadvantage?

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am

    I see that the brilliance in my post bemoaning the new Wild Card was also lost, since it was in the same post as the double link!

    :)

    In response to blake saying telling teams to win the division and then they don’t have to worry about the wild card, I basically stated that that was certainly music to the ears of the top teams in the weak divisions but didn’t really help the competitive divisions (read: East divisions). As long as there’s an unbalanced schedule, there is little fairness in the way things are set up.

  45. Trigeminal Neuralgia Yank March 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Upstate Kate,

    Hah, for real a book? That’s great.

  46. djsunyc March 1st, 2012 at 10:20 am

    without interleague, i would’ve never seen mariano face bonds at yankee stadium…

  47. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Big AL,

    That would be most fair yes……but teams have to consider finances….and fans are most likely to.come see a team fighting for first place in their division than fighting for 4th place overall……I wouldn’t mind that system….I just don’t know his realistic it is.

  48. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:20 am

    You’re looking for perfection based on how you see it.

    Someone else could see it totally opposite.

    Who’s right?

    Me.

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Erin, the very reason I post the links! I always manage to screw things up, don’t ask me how.

    Kate, we also need predictions for Sux wins this year, in the event that there’s a tie in Yankee wins. 12 Ritter Bars of one’s choice is the prize for the winning prediction.

    :)

    If there’s a tie after a tie, then I’ll spring for two prizes.

  50. Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:21 am

    and fans are most likely to.come see a team fighting for first place in their division than fighting for 4th place overall

    All they have to do is squint and they can see the sleight of the hand being played here.

  51. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:22 am

    “Mostly because it’s stupid. Why bother playing ‘em, if you’re putting particpants at a disadvantage?”

    Because you still have a chance….the better teams should have the best chance. Same reason the #1 seeds in the NCAA tournament play #16 seeds first instead of 2 seeds.

  52. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:23 am

    I’m ultimately looking for fairness. Though you may not ever achieve total fairness because anyone can point out potential flaws that are just inherent in the game, it’s certainly obvious when unfairness is part of the equation – especially when there are solutions to ameliorate the unfairness.

    1. Unbalanced schedule

    2. Inept umpiring

  53. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 10:23 am

    “As I see it, MLB wants more and more money,”

    Of course they do.

    The sole purpose of its existence is to generate revenue.

    OF COURSE it is going to pursue ways generate MORE revenue.

    This is the purpose of its existence.

    MLB is not a public utility.

  54. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:23 am

    “All they have to do is squint and they can see the sleight of the hand being played here.”

    The type of fans that are teams bread and butter money makers don’t read as deeply into this stuff as we do…..

  55. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Thanks Trisha

    And I forgot to give you my Boston wins- I’ll go for 83.

  56. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 10:24 am

    This discussion is based on how we as fans see it.

    I know some think teams shouldn’t worry about it but the main focus for these teams is to make money.

    Don’t like it, fine. If they don’t make money you have no league.

    Be a fan of some of the teams that don’t have the financial might of the top teams and you might see it differently.

  57. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Jerkface March 1st, 2012 at 10:20 am
    You’re looking for perfection based on how you see it.

    Someone else could see it totally opposite.

    Who’s right?

    Me.
    ——————————————————

    For some reason I expected that answer. :D:

  58. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Mlb basically guarantees two game 163′s every year with this……its mainly about generating more.money and more excitement for casual fans……but aside from that…..I like it…..understand why others wouldn’t…..but if the Yanks run the table and have the best record in the AL then I want them to be rewarded for it…..and now they will be.

  59. tomingeorgia March 1st, 2012 at 10:26 am

    trisha,
    You have my numbers correctly.

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Erin – :)

    Thanks tom. Every year I get someone’s numbers wrong. The year is young!

  61. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Valentine’s initial claim that the Yanks do Not practice the “flip” play, was actually calling into question the integrity of the Yankee Capt. Jeet’s on-field yell\comment during the Yankee practice of the “flip” drill, showed that Jeet took the Valentine comment in that vein also. Valentine then clapping his hands when informed of the Jeet response, shows Valentine is attempting to do everything he can to make his R\Sox team feel they are relevant in the AL East. Valentine knows the R\Sox are an absolute mess on the field, in the dugout, in the clubhouse, in the front office, basically everywhere. He is gonna use every avenue possible to try and make his team believe they “gotta chance”. He’s basically going the Jim Carrey route in “Dumb and Dumber”. Ultimately, Valentine’s sophmoric efforts will render him nothing but tasting countless doses of Grandma’s Cough Syrup.

  62. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am

    blake -

    I’m more interested in watching the best of the best in the post season. Again, how can you judge teams by W-L records to make the post season when they don’t play a balanced schedule?

    If a teams W-L record is how they are judged for the post season, then to be fair, they must be required to play a balanced schedule.

    Is it fair if 2 teams in the AL East, that finish #2 and #3, have better records than the division winners in the Central and West don’t make the post season, I don’t think so.

  63. upstate kate March 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Trisha
    86 wins for the red sox

  64. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:29 am

    If 3-4 more teams are in the race in September because of this then that’s a good thing for baseball…..despite some potential unfairness to the WC teams.

    Its guaranteed to not be unfair for the best record in both leagues and to me that’s very important because they are the two teams that should never be slighted…..

  65. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Got it kate. Do the docs come through as read-only public docs? Can you see any other information besides those pages?

  66. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:31 am

    AL,

    Can’t argue with that….I just don’t know if they’ll ever do away with the divisions

    .

  67. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:31 am

    If 3-4 more teams are in the race in September because of this then that’s a good thing for baseball…..despite some potential unfairness to the WC teams.

    It’s a good thing for baseball RATINGS, not the game itself. More wildcards cheapens the prize at the end of the road, and the importance of the regular season..

  68. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Th essence of MLB as a commercial enterprise whose product is competitive sport is not find the sweet spot between rewarding achievement so the crowning of a champion carries weight, and the generation of revenue.

    The problem for some of your is the latter informs the former.

    If baseball makes changes and it positively affects the game’s bottom line – if it generates more interest from fans as a body, then those changes are by definition, smart ones.

    If baseball opens the gates too much, the MARKET will inform them if they achieved success or made a mistake.

    As hardcore fans we can certainly and should discuss our personal preferences and what we FEEL is the sweetspot for maintaining the integrity of the game, but MLB is going to go by what the market tells them, as they should.

    What we likes and what works are two different things.

    I’m much more interested in the latter topic myself, but your mileage may vary.

  69. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:33 am

    “It’s a good thing for baseball RATINGS, not the game itself. More wildcards cheapens the prize at the end of the road, and the importance of the regular season..”

    Better ratings is better for baseball…..but aside from that….this doesn’t cheapen the regular season for me……it actually makes it more important for the best teams because you really like want to win your division now…..way moreso then before..

  70. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 10:35 am

    LoHudYankees David Wells throwing some BP on the main field. Colin Curtis, Melky Mesa and Zoilo Almonte taking their hacks.

  71. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:35 am

    I’m going to set it up as a Google doc anyway. I don’t know anything about Drop Box but if jf suggests Google doc, I know it has to be safe.

    New links will be coming.

  72. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:35 am

    stuckey -

    I’m not against MLB and teams making as much money as possible, but, I want the post season to reward the BEST teams, and thus a balanced schedule is the only way you can assure that.

    If teams make the post season based on W-L records, and have an advantage of playing a weaker schedule, how is that fair, and how does that assure the best teams make the post season and fight for a WS championship?

  73. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:37 am

    blake – It makes the regular season more important for 2 teams, less important for 28 teams. They went from 8 teams directly competing for the world series to 10 teams

    That’s “cheapened” no matter how you stretch or “like” it.

  74. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 10:37 am

    “It’s a good thing for baseball RATINGS, not the game itself. ”

    You can’t remove the two ID.

    The purpose of the game is to get more people to watch. In the stands, on TV, on the internet.

    If more people respond “hey, I’m more interested in THIS brand of MLB”, then it is by definition good for the game, because that’s the purpose of the game.

  75. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:37 am

    “it actually makes it more important for the best teams because you really like want to win your division now…..way moreso then before..”

    cakewalk for best team in easier divisions, really tough for teams in competitive divisions. Hence, unfair.

  76. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:38 am

    stuckey – Why not? I don’t give a rats about their ratings. The change cheapens the game played on the field and that’s all I am concerned about. I know why MLB made the move, and it wasn’t for the fans. Don’t let them make you think it was.

  77. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:39 am

    It was for MORE fans, not FOR the fans. That’s a big difference.

  78. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:40 am

    “It’s a good thing for baseball RATINGS, not the game itself.”

    I absolutely agree. And personally it makes me feel a little dirty to be part of a mass that helps to improve the ratings of something inherently unfair, because it tells me that integrity is taking a back seat to a “oh well, what the hell” attitude.

    Sad.

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 1st, 2012 at 10:41 am

    “Why not? I don’t give a rats about their ratings. The change cheapens the game played on the field and that’s all I am concerned about. I know why MLB made the move, and it wasn’t for the fans.”

    A-FLIPPIN’-MEN!

  80. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:41 am

    They could have eliminated all concerns by removing the guaranteed bid for division winners and re-seeding the playoffs appropriately.

    They left the system intact that essentially show-horns BAD teams into the playoffs, but added another team to help their ratings. They are merely trying to improve the marketability and accessibility of their product to the public, not the quality of it.

  81. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:42 am

    shoehorns…. sigh… it’s way too early for typos.

  82. Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Expand by 2 teams.

    Create 4 divisions in each of 2 leagues, every team in each division plays the same schedule (i.e., balanced within divisions).

    Winner of each division goes to the post-season. Simple. Fair. Won’t happen.

  83. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 10:43 am

    “I’m not against MLB and teams making as much money as possible, but, I want the post season to reward the BEST teams, and thus a balanced schedule is the only way you can assure that.”

    Al, I’m simply saying what you like/want and what you think is fair may not be the thing that maximizes MLB’s revenue potential.

    “If teams make the post season based on W-L records, and have an advantage of playing a weaker schedule, how is that fair, and how does that assure the best teams make the post season and fight for a WS championship?”

    Honestly, I’ve been responding to a macro point here. I haven’t delved deeply into the unbalanced schedule thing, which at first blush may be a perfectly legitimate issue.

    Trying to wrap my head around the implications of the current system vs. your proposed system. If anything wrings a bell, I’ll respond.

    My immediate thought is anything that cuts into the number of painfully tedious Yanks-Red Sox games I’d likely endorse.

  84. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Big Al

    If you don’t like how playoff teams are determined in MLB how do you feel about the rankings in college basketball?

    Are the teams ranked from best to worst when the top 25 are ranked before they even play a game.?

  85. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:44 am

    “blake – It makes the regular season more important for 2 teams, less important for 28 teams. They went from 8 teams directly competing for the world series to 10 teams”

    No….it makes it more important for all playoff contenders unless you want to play a sudden death WC round.

  86. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:45 am

    WYH – They can actually get to a balanced schedule now without changing the divisions, now that they have accepted having inter-league at all times instead of bunched into 2 weeks of the season.

    They have to actually implement it though. And they have to let got of their interleague rivalry NONSENSE.

    MLB makes so many POOR decisions for the integrity of the game on the field, it’s a good thing the game was already popular :p

  87. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:46 am

    No….it makes it more important for all playoff contenders unless you want to play a sudden death WC round.

    Again only making changes that effect some teams (the popular ones that get good ratings), not all.

  88. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 10:48 am

    blake – To expand no that a little more… it makes the regular season more important for the teams trying to win divisions, and less important for everyone else. A mediocre team now has an extra chance of making the playoffs. THey don’t give a crap about the difference between making the playoffs and winning the division. Only teams like the Yankees do.

  89. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:49 am

    IMO, if MLB is as concerned as they state about the integrity of the game, then some very important changes must be made.

    All teams should be required to play by the same rules; So either all teams have the DH, or none.

    If you disagree, then why not allow different size baseballs in the NL than the AL. Why not allow the NL to use aluminum bats, while the AL can only use wood bats. What if the NL changed their rules, and allowed a pitcher or position player to re-enter the game after being PH for. Yes, I agree, ridiculous, but, so is having 2 sets of rules for what should be MLB all being the same.

    All teams should play a balanced schedule.

    Why not allow the DH in all post season games, including the WS. AL teams are at a disadvantage in the WS when their pitchers must bat, so change the rules, it might be good for MLB, and make even more money for those poor teams.

  90. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 10:50 am

    At this point I find myself in agreement with those who think the new WC setup is a bad idea.

    :(

  91. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:50 am

    “Again only making changes that effect some teams (the popular ones that get good ratings), not all.”

    The ones that are popular are popular because they win.

  92. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 10:51 am

    “Why not? I don’t give a rats about their ratings.”

    ID, see my 10:23 and 10:32 posts.

    I have NO argument in opposition to your personal preferences, or what you think cheapens the game. That’s a wholly subjective topic in which there is no right or wrong.

    “I know why MLB made the move, and it wasn’t for the fans. Don’t let them make you think it was.”

    This doesn’t make any sense. If any “move” MLB makes increases revenue and/or ratings, WHOM do you think that increased revenue and increased ratings are coming from…?

    FANS.

    YOU may not be among them, but if MLB picks up 2 new fans to replace the 1 of you, they are being consistent with their purpose – to create a game the most people want to watch, follow and mostly spend money on.

    Again, MLB is NOT an public utility and not a public institution. It is a private commercial enterprise.

    There can be NO argument that suggests increased ratings does not equal more FANS and greater interest amongst FANS.

    The math doesn’t work.

  93. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Everone has valid points in favor of how they think MLB should be run.

    The common theme here is we are all avid fans. If not we wouldn’t spend as much time here.

    That being said MLB has our attention and know we will follow almost no matter what. Thus the term fans.

    They are trying to draw in the casual fan in order to expand their revenue stream.

    We may not like it but it’s the way all the major sports are operating.

    randy mentioned Kodak the other day. MLB doesn’t want to become obselete like that and die out.

  94. blake March 1st, 2012 at 10:53 am

    – “To expand no that a little more… it makes the regular season more important for the teams trying to win divisions, and less important for everyone else. ”

    I think it’s for both….more teams in contention..

  95. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:54 am

    MaineYankee -

    NCAAB is not MLB, so they must use a group to rank them based on numerous data, and one can not compare the two.

    I enjoy March Madness, as long as Duke is still in the mix, lol. :)

  96. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2012 at 10:54 am

    One of the key reasons for going to what was supposed to be a Geographic Division format, and playing teams in your Geographic Division countless times, was to reduce the expense of teams flying\traveling from coast to coast, and to minimize the wear and tear of said travel on the players. there were exceptions like the Rockies being in the NL West, but the $$$\travel was a big part of the switching from just the AL\NL. With the huge long-term contracts now being handed out, $$$ is obviously not an issue, and I would simply go back to the old AL\NL setup. Top 4 teams from each qualify for the Playoffs, and go from there. I would Kill the interleague play as the novelty has worn off, and return the World Series to the stature it enjoyed long ago. The MLB Network, ESPN, etc allows fans numerous opportunities to see players from both the AL and NL. This make the argument of interleague play allowing fans to see players they would not normally get to see is moot.

  97. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 10:56 am

    “THey don’t give a crap about the difference between making the playoffs and winning the division. Only teams like the Yankees do.”

    Any team that makes the PS as a WC is now guaranteed just ONE game, and if you have the 2nd best record of the WC teams, you aren’t guaranteed ONE home game, which is APPEAL of making the postseason.

    As a division winner you are guaranteed no less than 3 games and 1 homegame, with a more than decent of 2 or 3 homegames, and an increased likelihood you advance to the next round to get a guaranteed 4 more games, with a minimum of 2 homegames.

    There is a significant incentive for teams qualifying as division winners as opposed to WC qualifiers, and there is even a significant incentive to qualify as the WC team with the better revenue.

    A 163 game, at home, generating millions of dollars in revenue.

  98. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:57 am

    MTU -

    Good morning, no hike today?

  99. Bronx Jeers March 1st, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Has anybody heard that the outing is to a comedy club to do improv?

    If true my money’s on Jeter.

  100. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 11:00 am

    BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:49 am
    IMO, if MLB is as concerned as they state about the integrity of the game, then some very important changes must be made.

    All teams should be required to play by the same rules; So either all teams have the DH, or none
    ———————————————————————————-

    No argument there.

    MLB is so intent on holding on to the past in some areas it makes no sense.

    Little by little they have been changing, like finally using the same umps for both leagues, but unlike the other major sports they want to cling to a few things that make them seperate.

    Their stubborness is almost childlike.

  101. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:00 am

    This doesn’t make any sense. If any “move” MLB makes increases revenue and/or ratings, WHOM do you think that increased revenue and increased ratings are coming from…?
    FANS.

    Stuckey – The money comes FROM the fans. The change was made for more MONEY, not because the fans wanted it.

  102. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Bronx Jeers-yeah, I just saw that too.

    Swisher gets my vote. ;)

  103. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Later folks.

  104. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:03 am

    stuckey – There have always been monetary incentives for teams to make the playoffs though, this doesn’t change that Teams like the Yankees may need to focus on winning their division a little more, the second wildcard is like a safety blanket for them. The middle of the road teams are the ones that take the advantge, as they have now been given an extra chance at making the postseason (whether this is to play 1 game or 5, they MADE it and that’s all you need to do to win it). The poor low caliber teams are not helped by this change at all, as they still play an unbalanced schedule and the playoffs stay out of reach for the most part.

  105. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 11:04 am

    BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 10:54 am
    MaineYankee -

    NCAAB is not MLB, so they must use a group to rank them based on numerous data, and one can not compare the two.

    I enjoy March Madness, as long as Duke is still in the mix, lol.

    —————————————————–

    I like Duke as well so we share that.

    Are the top 25 really the best 25?

    A team that starts outside the top 25 is at a distinct disadvantage.

  106. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am

    There can be NO argument that suggests increased ratings does not equal more FANS and greater interest amongst FANS.

    Just as there can be no argument that having more fans in the seats makes the game on the field better.

  107. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am

    No Al.

    Yesterday. Rest day today.

  108. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:08 am

    LoHud bonding day.

    :)

  109. Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2012 at 11:09 am

    In the long run I don’t see the new set-up boosting ratings particularly.

    In the short run, there will be increased excitement as more teams have a chance at the playoffs. That’s because fans will bring to the playoff race the old expectations of a playoff spot.

    But as fans increasingly internalize the fact that a playoff spot has been devalued by 50% and is essentially a coin toss, that increased excitement will die back.

    But, business is all about the short run these days.

  110. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 11:09 am

    “The money comes FROM the fans. The change was made for more MONEY, not because the fans wanted it.”

    ID, this fundamentally makes no sense.

    Increased ratings and revenue = increased fan interest.

    Fans of teams that wouldn’t have been in the mix in September are not paying attention longer, not because they HAVE to, because they want to.

    Fans of teams who wouldn’t have qualified for the PS before are now paying attention in October because they WANT to, not because they have to.

    Again, the math doesn’t make sense to say fans are generating increased ratings and revenue for something they don’t want. That’s an inherent contradiction.

    It may not be what you as a PARTICULAR fan wants, but that isn’t what we’re taking about.

    You’re arguing the increased ratings and revenue is being generated off of something fans don’t want, and this is a failed premise.

    Give fans what they DON’T want, you get lower ratings and lower revenue.

    Again, you’re fighting math here.

  111. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:10 am

    stuckey – Increased fan interest does not equate to improving the integrity of the game, which is where this all started.

    Please stop harping on the money side of things, i know they made the decision because it makes MLB more money. That doesn’t mean it was better for the game on the field, it’s simply better for MLB’s pockets.

  112. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:11 am

    You’re arguing the increased ratings and revenue is being generated off of something fans don’t want, and this is a failed premise.

    No, you have pigeon-holed this conversation into the ratings and money, which is not my focus at all. Please stay on topic.

  113. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:14 am

    FANS, Fanatics…. are irrational, moody and suffer from group think. They want their teams to make the playoffs and win. For the most part they are not concerned with things like a level playing field, game integrity, or the value of a wild card spot. All they care about is at the end of the day, did their team win.

    Those that are concerned about the game actually being played on the field and not blinded by fandom do not appreciate this change at all, because the reward at the end of 162 games is cheapened by the 2 extra teams that have a chance to get lucky/hot and win it.

  114. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 11:14 am

    ID, as I keep trying to make clear, I’m not attempting to argue the “integrity of the game” removed from the purpose of the game.

    I don’t begrudge anyone having that conversation, it just doesn’t register with me personally.

    I have NO issue with anyone not liking these changes. I don’t understand “its just to make money” lodged as a criticism.

    This is like criticizing water for being wet.

    “This is going HURT interest, turn off fans and decreases revenue” is a argument that is relevant to ME.

    “Just as there can be no argument that having more fans in the seats makes the game on the field better.”

    Not sure I understand this?

  115. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am

    ID, as I keep trying to make clear, I’m not attempting to argue the “integrity of the game” removed from the purpose of the game.

    So you are trying to make it clear that you are not talking about what I am talking about… why are you talking to me then?

    Not sure I understand this?

    Whether there are 100 fans in the seats or 1000 or 1 million, the 162 games played during the regular season are now less important on a whole than they were last year.

    More fans in the seats = more popular, but… the Jersey shore is popular… that doesn’t mean it’s good television.

  116. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 11:18 am

    “No, you have pigeon-holed this conversation into the ratings and money, which is not my focus at all. Please stay on topic.”

    ID, you responded to ME. I made my position on this issue very clear between 10:34 and 10:42. This is MY topic.

    I’m not debating the “integrity of the game”. You’re trying to convince someone who isn’t disagreeing with you.

  117. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:20 am

    stuckey – No, actually I wasn’t talking to you at all.

    I was talking to blake… and you bullied your way into the conversation, changed the topic and told me I was wrong about something I wasn’t even talking about.

    Great job, stuckey.

  118. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:20 am

    GREAT BOLD ID, YOU TURD. :/

  119. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 11:24 am

    “So you are trying to make it clear that you are not talking about what I am talking about… why are you talking to me then?”

    I made the short, simple point that removing the integrity of the game from the very purpose of the game doesn’t make sense to me.

    In immediate reply, you lodged the criticism that changes aren’t being made for fans, but to just increase interest in the game, which I find to be oxymoron and still do.

    “More fans in the seats = more popular, but… the Jersey shore is popular… that doesn’t mean it’s good television.”

    And I’m saying what is good television is subjective. I don’t like Jersey Shore one bit. But I don’t begrudge MTV for airing it. They aren’t in the business of offering good TV. They’re in the business of offering TV people like, and I’m intellectually able to recognize the difference.

  120. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 11:24 am

    Kate, Correct.”Driving Mr. Yogi” is the book. Guidry and Berra will be at Yogi’s museum to sign the books in April, the 4th, I believe.

  121. CompassRosy March 1st, 2012 at 11:24 am

    Scrounge slot?

    http://tinyurl.com/6wvqqqf

    “The MLB Wild Card, maybe for the first time in sports, becomes the scrounge position that it is supposed to be.  That, to me, is the most important thing about this decision.  The ratio between the WC and division slots has created beauty and symmetry at the end of the season.

    Are you aware of any other sport in which a Wild Card has been devalued appropriately?  This 50% proportion is very elegant:  the Wild Card will be a red-headed stepchild, and the division will be front-and-center.  The Red Sox and Yankees (or Rangers and Angels) will, even if wayyyyy out in front of the AL, still battle hammer and tongs for the division.”

  122. MaineYankee March 1st, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Integrity of the game.

    What an overused phrase.

    Comes in handy when a person runs out of things to say to back up their point.

    Look back through the history of the game and tell me where the integrity was.

    Every generation has something they can point to that hurt the integrity of the game.

    It’s not like they are messing with perfection.

  123. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Hey! No fighting on team bonding day!!! :x

  124. Shame Spencer March 1st, 2012 at 11:27 am

    MLB probably has more room to play with things like this because there still isn’t the same amount of parody in the league the way there is with the NBA and NHL and there never will be (without a hard cap). They also aren’t opening the floodgates for 50% of the teams to make the playoffs… 2/3′s of the clubs in the league are still going to be shut out of October baseball.

    I agree it is far from perfect, but 1 extra team from each league doesn’t ruffle my feathers all that much. The fact that it would be ‘unfair’ to the WC team doesn’t seem like something worth caring about, since the WC was made in the devil’s workshop (Selig’s office) to begin with.

  125. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:27 am

    stuckey – I made the short, simple point that removing the integrity of the game from the very purpose of the game doesn’t make sense to me.

    If this was your point this entire time then fine, I don’t agree with it. End of discussion. See how much easier that is?

    The decisions they made here were financial in nature, and nothing more.

  126. pat March 1st, 2012 at 11:27 am

    MarcCarig

    Hal holds court: is locked into getting payroll down to 189m by 2014. Not a fan of extensions in middle of contracts. But didn’t rule out.

  127. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2012 at 11:28 am

    - stuckey -
    The guy likes to argue. He doesn’t do it well, but that’s what he likes to do.

  128. blake March 1st, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Hal better call Cano then

  129. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Maybe we can spare ourselves the change and spin Cano off for another flame-throwing righty. Who needs bats? Pitching wins.

  130. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:33 am

    JAP -

    Still a bit pissed by the Montero trade?

  131. Best To Ever Do It March 1st, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Hal holds court: is locked into getting payroll down to 189m by 2014.

    ————————————

    No Hamels or Cain

  132. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:34 am

    In immediate reply, you lodged the criticism that changes aren’t being made for fans, but to just increase interest in the game, which I find to be oxymoron and still do. It’s not an oxymoron, they made a change they thought would put more butts in the seats, not one that they thought would improve the game being played on the field. They have nothing to do with each other, unless they realize that making the game better on the field would put those same butts in the seats.

    And I’m saying what is good television is subjective. I don’t like Jersey Shore one bit. But I don’t begrudge MTV for airing it. They aren’t in the business of offering good TV. They’re in the business of offering TV people like, and I’m intellectually able to recognize the difference.

    Good baseball is subjective too. The difference between 100 fans in the seats or 1 million fans in the seats doesn’t make the game more or less enjoyable for me. Maybe it does for you, and that’s why you are so stuck on this. Are Marlins games inherently less entertaining to you than say… Royals games? Both bad teams, but one has fans in the seats and one does not. Doesn’t make a lick of difference to me, I find them equally entertaining.

    The change was simply made to change the number of butts in the seats, not to improve the quality of the regular or postseason play. Good teams like the Yankees actually suffer as a result (outweighing the 2nd WC blanket in my eyes) because now there are 2 more teams in the mix that have a change to “get hot” and run away with the postseason.

  133. blake March 1st, 2012 at 11:34 am

    “No Hamels or Cain”

    Nope

  134. Shame Spencer March 1st, 2012 at 11:35 am

    I still can’t believe the players agreed to those ridiculous tax hits…. how do they expect to get those $100 million contracts with rules like that? Its times like this that I wish more guys went to college like Grandy.

  135. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 11:35 am

    “If this was your point this entire time then fine, I don’t agree with it. End of discussion. See how much easier that is?”

    ID, get huffy if you like, but I’m not doing anything I don’t do everyday, which recently you’ve defended.

    Apparently that was only because I happened to agree with you at the time.

    “The decisions they made here were financial in nature, and nothing more.”

    Yes, which should be the dictating premise of all decisions MLB makes, given they are a commercial enterprise.

  136. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Gimme Hank anyday.

  137. Best To Ever Do It March 1st, 2012 at 11:36 am

    BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:33 am

    JAP -

    Still a bit pissed by the Montero trade?

    —————————

    lol he’s not going to get over that but he’s not the only one. Many fams really wanted to see the kid be a fixture in the line-up for the next decade or so.

  138. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:36 am

    MTU -

    My daughter-in-law is in the hospital, waiting to hear about the birth of my twin grandsons, that will make 4, almost a BB team, working our way up to a starting 9. :)

  139. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Al,

    Just tryin’ to flow with the company party line :D

  140. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:37 am

    ID, get huffy if you like, but I’m not doing anything I don’t do everyday, which recently you’ve defended.

    I think I’ve earned the right to “get huffy” since you’ve done nothing but focus on things I’m not even trying to talk about.

    Yes, which should be the dictating premise of all decisions MLB makes, given they are a commercial enterprise.

    So you admit they are not making the change based on improving the “game”, only their “pockets”. What a giant waste of time this was… :/

  141. Best To Ever Do It March 1st, 2012 at 11:37 am

    blake March 1st, 2012 at 11:34 am

    “No Hamels or Cain”

    Nope

    ———————

    :( damn

  142. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Al,

    Your daughter-in-law doesn’t fool around, doe she? Congrats!

  143. Shame Spencer March 1st, 2012 at 11:38 am

    “In immediate reply, you lodged the criticism that changes aren’t being made for fans, but to just increase interest in the game, which I find to be oxymoron and still do”

    It really isn’t an oxymoron, stuckey.. just say the word ‘shoot out’ to any hockey fan and you’d see.

  144. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Shame, there is definitely parody in this league. ;)

    Hate the new format, and the rush to implement it. mlb couldn’t care less about squeezing teams into untenable schedule this year in order to serve their cause, and the one game playoff is a joke.

  145. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 11:39 am

    randy l. March 1st, 2012 at 9:32 am
    “the burrnett injury is a reminder of way im glad the yankees are an AL team, remeber wang injury? imagine CC strains an obleck (i cant spell) in a game”

    what was pittsburgh thinking having a yankee bunt without special training first and protective gear?

    everyone knows that the yankees suck at bunting.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Come on, now. We’re not really going to blame the Yankees for Wang’s initial foot injury or for Burnett fouling a ball off of his face, are we? It’s not like Burnett hasn’t ever bunted in a game or swung a bat before. He was in the NL and batted in WS games.

  146. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Congratulations Al.

    Guess they took that “be fruitful and multiply” thing kinda seriously.

    :)

  147. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:40 am

    In immediate reply, you lodged the criticism that changes aren’t being made for fans, but to just increase interest in the game, which I find to be oxymoron and still do

    This assumes that the fans know or care to display the difference. Does the average person know why they are “being sold” certain things? No they do not.

  148. djsunyc March 1st, 2012 at 11:41 am

    It’s a good thing for baseball RATINGS, not the game itself. More wildcards cheapens the prize at the end of the road, and the importance of the regular season..

    ———-

    how so? i don’t think it’s cheapens the prize at all. i think it makes it tougher to win it.

  149. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:41 am

    JAP -

    This will be my youngest sons first birth, the older son has 2 boys as well, but not twins. I count all the grandsons as 1 team.

  150. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Al-congratulations!! :)

  151. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Now it can be revealed . . .
    March, 1, 2012
    MAR 1
    9:51
    AM ET

    By Wallace Matthews

    “The Yankees annual bonding experience for this spring training will be a trip to a comedy club in Ybor City, where the players will be asked to perform improvisations for the entertainment of their teammates. Joe Girardi spilled it last night at his annual dinner with the beat writers, on the condition no one write until today so as not to tip off the players. If I understood him correctly, there are a bunch of pre-written sketches that have been selected for certain players, who will then get up on the stage to work them out. Sounds scary.

    PS — I have the feeling that Rafael Soriano will be a sensation at this thing, and you’ll know why at 11:45 when Andrew Marchand gives you a look at the enigmatic reliever as you’ve never seen him — or heard him — before.

    Make sure to check it out. You won’t be Sori. (groan)”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....e-revealed

    Kind of psychological to have the players do improvs, no? Do we have a sports psychologist on board? Will there actually be video?

  152. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Best To Ever Do It March 1st, 2012 at 11:36 am
    BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:33 am

    JAP -

    Still a bit pissed by the Montero trade?

    —————————

    lol he’s not going to get over that but he’s not the only one. Many fams really wanted to see the kid be a fixture in the line-up for the next decade or so.
    ///

    Best,

    Let’s just say the next time I see Mr. Cashman in the elevator at NYS, or down in Trenton, I’ll have a few choice words for him. I see him once in a while, and I just nod. He’s very pleasant, as I will be; but I’ll have a little something to say.

  153. austinmac March 1st, 2012 at 11:43 am

    No Hamels, Cain or some of the current Yankees who have expiring contracts in 2012 or 2013. The team in 2014 will be very different from this year’s team. Enjoy it while you can.

    There is no room for Granderson at $15M+, Swisher are $12M+, Martin at $10M+. We shall see about Cano at $20M+.

    As I have been saying, the Yankees will be among the least likely to spend money on players in the next two years. They will underspend the Royals in new money.

  154. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:43 am

    MTU -

    Not really, they tried for 7 years to have a family, and were told they couldn’t have children, then, surprise, twins. I guess practice does make perfect. :)

  155. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Al-

    Is that a SEAL team, or a baseball team ?

    ;)

  156. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Big Al, congrats. Any lefties in the mix? ;)

  157. blake March 1st, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Congrats Al!

  158. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:44 am

    djsnyc – It does make it tougher to win it for the 8 teams that would have made it anyway… and easier in general to make the playoffs in the first place. Making it is all that matters, any team in the league is technically capable of getting hot and winning it.

    Looking at it a different way, making the playoffs was an “elite” 8 out of 30 teams, now it’s slightly less elite 10 out of 30 teams, again… cheapened.

  159. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:44 am

    BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:41 am
    JAP -

    This will be my youngest sons first birth, the older son has 2 boys as well, but not twins. I count all the grandsons as 1 team.
    ///

    Big AL, what if they want to be the next Caruso, instead of the next Mantle? ;)

  160. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Al-

    Yeah. And all those new-fangled fertility drugs.

    You’re lucky she didn’t have octuplets or somethin’.

    :)

  161. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 11:45 am

    “It’s not an oxymoron, they made a change they thought would put more butts in the seats, not one that they thought would improve the game being played on the field.”

    My position is clear. The purpose of the how the game is played on the field is to put butts in the seats.

    “They have nothing to do with each other”

    They have EVERYTHING to do with one another.

    “Good baseball is subjective too. The difference between 100 fans in the seats or 1 million fans in the seats doesn’t make the game more or less enjoyable for me.”

    Again I am not and would not presume to challenge your personal preferences. That’s a debate you will mop the floor with me on every time.

    “Good teams like the Yankees actually suffer as a result (outweighing the 2nd WC blanket in my eyes) because now there are 2 more teams in the mix that have a change to “get hot” and run away with the postseason.”

    Are you still convinced I’m debating this point with you?

  162. Tackelberry March 1st, 2012 at 11:45 am

    DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2012 at 11:35 am

    “Gimme Hank anyday.”

    After the way he stuck the Yanks with that ridiculous Arod contract? No thanks! I’ll take Hal anyday

  163. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Best To Ever Do It March 1st, 2012 at 11:36 am
    BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:33 am

    JAP -

    Still a bit pissed by the Montero trade?

    —————————

    lol he’s not going to get over that but he’s not the only one. Many fams really wanted to see the kid be a fixture in the line-up for the next decade or so.
    ______
    This. :(

  164. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 11:45 am

    yankeefem-I kind of doubt we’ll get to see video. I think the most we can hope for is pictures. ;)

  165. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:46 am

    I would say that the change has made winning the division more important, but making the playoffs in general easier. This does not make the post-season any better in my eyes.

    MLB will be happy with the change, because since it’s easier to make the playoffs there will be more teams in the race and more fans in the seats.

    The playoffs overall got worse, the profits of the game improved. Net change for MLB = increase. Net change for fans = wash. Net change for players = decrease.

  166. DONNYBROOK March 1st, 2012 at 11:47 am

    - Tackle-
    Hanks is more like the Old Man in Every way. Hal issa slide ruler with legs.

  167. Shame Spencer March 1st, 2012 at 11:47 am

    fem – I agree, but there’s also still a lot of clearly better teams than the others and a lot of clearly worse teams than the others. And its not just 1-2 teams that are ‘clearly better’ but at least 6-7. Then you have like 10 teams that are god awful. Then there’s the middling group. The middle of the pack teams, of course, could be grouped into that category but as long as there are those big payroll disparities its harder to get a league of 30 .500 teams.

  168. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Pruf et al, the Perez-ManBan comparison by Sickels yesterday was pretty uninformative and not worth the read.

    Here’s hoping mlb voids Texas’s signing of Jairo Beras. I wonder if we would have been in on him had we known he was 17.

    Hate hate the new format. And Shame, at least the NHL doesn’t use shoot outs in the playoffs.

  169. luis March 1st, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Hi everyone,

    Trisha, Yankees 99, Sux 85

    MTU,

    If you are still around…..Hello, hope whatever was ailing your family is better now.

    Tom in Georgia,

    Hi!! good to see you around

    On the WC system, i rather have no divisions and the best four teams make it to the PS, with a balanced schedule, it´s more fair, and usually the best teams will make it.

  170. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Are you still convinced I’m debating this point with you?

    Stuckey – No, I’m convinced that you are having your own debate that I was never participating in. The change was made to increase the number of fans in the seats. We are in total agreement. That is NOT what I was talking about with blake when you decided to jump in here. You have concocted this wedge on your own, and I should have realized it earlier and stopped the conversation there.

    The game as a whole got worse, in my eyes… because they made it easier to make the postseason. I don’t care how many butts are in the seats.

    They didn’t make the change because they think the postseason got better. They made the change because they want more fans in the seats at the end of the regular season, and they want to reap the money from the 2 game 163′s.

    There were no other legit reasons I can think of. They constructed this as a way to make money, not because they really really wanted a second wild card because that was going to make the playoffs better.

  171. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Erin March 1st, 2012 at 11:45 am
    yankeefem-I kind of doubt we’ll get to see video. I think the most we can hope for is pictures.
    ___
    I demand video, but as we can’t even get any video of ST, I am not holding my breath. ;)

  172. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:51 am

    MTU -

    No drugs. My son kept poking fun, and his wife finally took it serious.

    My son is a lefty, so maybe we we the makings of a couple of LHP or power strokes in YS. My oldest grandson is mostly lefty, but has become quite the switch hitter, and now pitches both LH and RH.

  173. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:52 am

    yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:48 am
    Pruf et al, the Perez-ManBan comparison by Sickels yesterday was pretty uninformative and not worth the read.
    ///

    Yea, Sickels is rarely worth the read ;).BTW, I thought I read Perez got hurt.

  174. Shame Spencer March 1st, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Congrats Big Al on all of the Little Al’s!

  175. stuckey March 1st, 2012 at 11:52 am

    “I think I’ve earned the right to “get huffy” since you’ve done nothing but focus on things I’m not even trying to talk about.”

    “So you admit they are not making the change based on improving the “game”, only their “pockets”. What a giant waste of time this was… :/”

    ID, your first sentence contradicts the second. You can’t ask me a question and ALSO complain I’m focusing on something you are not even trying to talk about.

    There are two equal participants on this conversation, no one is forcing you to engage.

    But to answer your question, yes, I admit it. Have NOT understood anything I’ve written to this point. “Admitting” it has been my point all along.

    The ONLY purpose of MLB is to generate revenue. Your using their sole reason a criticism against them.

    This is logic fail.

  176. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Hi Luis.

    Thank you for asking. Should know more about the final outcome in about 1 or 2 months.

    As always, I remeain optimistic.

    How are you and your family doing. Well I hope ?

    Looks like our buddy Hugo is getting ready to go down for the count just like I told you.

  177. blake March 1st, 2012 at 11:52 am

    “Let’s just say the next time I see Mr. Cashman in the elevator at NYS, or down in Trenton, I’ll have a few choice words for him.”

    Its a process….

  178. luis March 1st, 2012 at 11:52 am

    PS — I have the feeling that Rafael Soriano will be a sensation at this thing, and you’ll know why at 11:45 when Andrew Marchand gives you a look at the enigmatic reliever as you’ve never seen him — or heard him — before.

    ============

    YF,

    He is going to do a Marcel Marceau impersonation!! :)

    Big Al,

    Congrats on the new grandson

  179. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:53 am

    OK, so I didn’t actually just set an appt. for 3PM on Good Friday, did I? It is Yanks OD at Tampa… Ugh, brain freeze. :( Now, trying to backtrack and get out of it.

  180. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Either way Al.

    Much health and happiness.

    :)

  181. upstate kate March 1st, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Al- congrats on the twins :)

    GB
    thanks for the info on the book…2 of my all time fav Yankees

  182. BIG AL March 1st, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Thanks everyone!

  183. Erin March 1st, 2012 at 11:54 am

    New Post: Hal: ?189 is a real number, and we’re going to be shooting for it”

    :arrow:

  184. MTU March 1st, 2012 at 11:55 am

    new thread ——->

  185. yankeefeminista March 1st, 2012 at 11:55 am

    luis, Sori has a very expressive face actually. Could be interesting… ;)

  186. luis March 1st, 2012 at 11:55 am

    MTU,

    Yes, family is great…..I don´t rejoyce in his personal ordeal, but we are a little more hopeful nowadays, thanks for asking.

  187. austinmac March 1st, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Al.

    Congrats on the new grandson. I had my first grandchild in November. Fun stuff.

  188. Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2012 at 11:56 am

    The way I see it, devaluing the wild card is going to have a counterproductive effect in super-competitive divisions like the AL East.

    The same level of investment in talent is not going to produce the return it did under the old system. Under the old system, it made sense to go all out even in a strong division, because you could finish second, make the post-season and have essentially the same chance to win it all as every other team.

    Now, your chances to win, as opposed to the same as every other post season team, are 50% of the division winners.

    I understand the theory is that this will make teams compete harder to win the division, but I disagree. Under the new system, increasing your payroll and adding talent in a super-competitive division like the AL East will be very risky, because it’s now all-or-nothing.

    I think that will have the perverse effect of reducing the incentive to add talent and increase payroll.

  189. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:57 am

    blake March 1st, 2012 at 11:52 am
    “Let’s just say the next time I see Mr. Cashman in the elevator at NYS, or down in Trenton, I’ll have a few choice words for him.”

    Its a process….
    ////

    What was once “cute” is now incredibly annoying…

  190. J. Alfred Prufrock March 1st, 2012 at 11:58 am

    He is going to do a Marcel Marceau impersonation!!
    ///

    luis!

    I can see Sori as a mime! Good call.

  191. GreenBeret7 March 1st, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    eboland11 Erik Boland
    And let the “Hal Steinbrenner is cheap” talk commence in 3,2,1… #toopredictable

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Too late. It started about a month ago.

  192. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    ID, your first sentence contradicts the second. You can’t ask me a question and ALSO complain I’m focusing on something you are not even trying to talk about.

    I wasn’t asking you a question, just stating an observation… so there is no contradiction to be had.

    There are two equal participants on this conversation, no one is forcing you to engage

    The conversation was actually about how postseason play and regular season play was effected and considered in the decision making process. That was the post I made to blake… and then you decided to make the conversation about the thing we ALL know it was about, money.

    I apologize for not reading your posts more carefully, because I would have stopped responding to them much sooner.

    You were right earlier, I usually do defend you because you usually operate in an honest manner. I think you were too intent on getting your point out there just now, and not focused at all on what was being discussed.

  193. Irreverent Discourse March 1st, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    The ONLY purpose of MLB is to generate revenue. Your using their sole reason a criticism against them.
    This is logic fail.

    No, I was discussing the sentiment that this will improve the postseason in some mythical way with blake. You decided to make this about what you wanted it to be about.

  194. http://pencerdd.com/scripts/cheapkobeshoes.htm August 21st, 2014 at 4:50 am

    These two statements jumped out at me. Sometimes on the DT, people will post questions about what “class” people are, and try to give income parameters as a guide. But income is only one aspect of class.

  195. http://www.wonews.com/max.aspx] August 29th, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    A new creative impetus is needed. A little, yes! But not too much!.

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