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Spring training Game 6: Yankees vs. Rays

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 07, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (2-2)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher 1B
Raul Ibanez DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Andruw Jones RF
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner LF

RHP Hiroki Kuroda (13-16, 3.07 last season)
Kuroda vs. Rays

RAYS (0-4)
Reid Brignac SS
B.J. Upton CF
Ben Zobrist 2B
Matt Joyce RF
Jeff Keppinger 1B
Stephen Vogt Dh
Jose Molina C
Jesus Feliciano LF
Elliot Johnson 3B

RHP James Shields (16-12, 2.82 last season)
Shields vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network

WEATHER: Temperatures getting into the 80s. Wind blowing in from center field.

UMPIRES: HP Vic Carapazza, 1B Eric Cooper, 2B Mark Wegner, 3B Marty Foster

RAYS IN RELIEF: After James Shields, the Rays are scheduled to pitch RHP Burke Badenhop, RHP Dane De La Rosa, RHP Alex Colome, RHP Josh Lueke and former Yankees RHP Romulo Sanchez

ROUGH START: The Rays have lost their first four Grapefruit League games for the first time in franchise history. Clearly their season is shot.

FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT IN NEW YORK: The Rays note that MLB Network is picking up today’s Yankees telecast. The Rays have 11 spring training games on television this spring, and apparently that’s the most they’ve ever had.

FAMILIAR FOE: The Yankees know plenty about James Shields, who gets the start today for the Rays. Amazingly enough, the Rays have used a starting pitcher under the age of 30 in 764 consecutive games, which is a Major League record. The streak will end when Shields make his first regular season start. He turned 30 in December. The last Rays starter 30 or older was Jae Seo, who started on his 30th birthday on May 24, 2007.

UPDATE, 1:07 p.m.: Kuroda’s time in pinstripes gets started with a strikeout of Brignac.

UPDATE, 1:09 p.m.: Nine-pitch inning for Kuroda. Strikeout, weak lineout and a routine grounder to first.

UPDATE, 1:26 p.m.: Three up, three down in the first inning. Three up, three on in the second. Kuroda has allowed two singles and a two-run triple this inning and the Rays are up 2-0.

UPDATE, 1:29 p.m.: Kuroda goes through three straight to end the inning.

UPDATE, 1:33 p.m.: Yankees are practically handing the Rays the American League East! Six up, six down for New York. Rays lead 2-0 after two, and Joe Girardi is already going to late-inning reliever Rafael Soriano.

UPDATE, 1:46 p.m.: Robinson Cano brought his glove to the stadium today. Nice play to his left and into the outfield grass. Gets the out at first to get Soriano out of the inning. It’s  a 3-0 Rays lead. Soriano allowed a single, walk and two stolen bases (but not runs) in the third inning. He had two strikeouts.

UPDATE, 1:51 p.m.: Russell Martin breaks the Yankees out of their hitless start with a one-out single in the third inning.

UPDATE, 2:13 p.m.: Can’t make this up: It’s been announced that, for this season, the Yankees Triple-A team will be officially called the Empire State Yankees. Because of stadium renovations in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre — in Moosic, to be precise — the team has to play all of its games on the road. Not a good situation.

UPDATE, 2:29 p.m.: Kuroda on the attention he got after his first spring outing: “In the future I’d like to say a lot of good things about my outings. Unfortunately it didn’t turn out to be that way this time. I’d like to get more people so that I can pitch better and give you guys good news.”

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204 Responses to “Spring training Game 6: Yankees vs. Rays”

  1. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Someone tap me on the shoulder when Cole (“2014 bab-y!”) Garner gets up.

  2. Cashmoney March 7th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Power Garner! :D

  3. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    blake March 7th, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Yea K Brown and Pavano were tough….
    ———————-

    The plus side to Pavano was that he wasn’t actually around often enough that you had to root for him.

  4. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Re-post:

    Melky homered from both sides yesterday. They were talking about him on the Giants’ flagship station this morning. One of the beat writers said Melky has had a very serious and professional demeanor so far this spring. Already speculating how unlikley it is that they’ll retain Melky after this season.

    BTW, only two Giants have homered from both sides in the same game since 1993: Ray Durham and Randy Winn.

  5. yankeefeminista March 7th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Go Kuroda-San, Go Yanks!

  6. yankeefeminista March 7th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    K

  7. Best To Ever Do It March 7th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    nice pitch

  8. yankeefeminista March 7th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Yep, looking good!

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    “No one knows if the Zodiac killer was a Yankee fan or not… but I see a lot of Yankee caps in Vallejo.

    Is it mostly because of CC? Or… is there more to the story?”

    Interesting Nick, because one theory I heard posited is that it was really Tug McGraw, and to take attention away from that and try to put it elsewhere, residents were paid a handsome sum to wear Yankee caps. They were never told why…

  10. Benny Blanco March 7th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    that was easy.

  11. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Nick -

    Bring Melky back to take Swisher’s place next year :-D

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    I told ya Kuroda would be great!!!

    :lol:

    Actually I have to figure out the appropriate amount of mound time before I have to make some kind of public declaration of wrong saying (as opposed to wrong doing).

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock March 7th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Chip March 7th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    Nick -

    Bring Melky back to take Swisher’s place next year
    ///

    Girardi would have to be gone for that to happen. Not happening under his watch.

  14. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Today’s perfect speaker on motivational strength would have been NBA HOFer, Jerry Lucas. One of the best, along with a connection to George Steinbrenner, beyond being from Ohio.

  15. blake March 7th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    KURODA

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock March 7th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Kuroda looking good.

  17. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 7th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Chip March 7th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    Nick -

    Bring Melky back to take Swisher’s place next year
    ///

    Girardi would have to be gone for that to happen. Not happening under his watch.
    ————–

    Why do you think that?

    I think the Yankees ended up moving Melky because he was going to make too much through arbitration to be a fourth OF (behind Gardner, Granderson and Swisher) and they thought they could get a good starting pitcher back for him. Now that Cano’s older and more mature I don’t think they would have the same concerns.

  18. upstate kate March 7th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    grrr I forgot to set the DVR…anyone know if the game will be replayed later?

  19. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Girardi has pretty much settled on Kuroda to start Game Two of the ALDS, but I predict he won’t announce it yet for obvious reasons.

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock March 7th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Chip,

    Those are also reasons he was moved. But he’s not the manager’s cup of tea.

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I believe that Melky was traded solely to break up the Melky-Cano tandem, and Melky was the sacrifical lamb since the Yankees had no intention of trading Robby.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    upstate, YES typically has a rewind later in the day. If not, it should be archived on MLB.com. Also I read that MLB TV was going to have a “late start” showing, so it may mean that they intend to show it tonight!

  23. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    “Girardi has pretty much settled on Kuroda to start Game Two of the ALDS, but I predict he won’t announce it yet for obvious reasons.”

    I also understand he has no plans to use consensus Most-Improved-Player award winner Cole Garner to pitch hit for Russell Martin in the 3rd inning in a tie game.

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    “I also understand he has no plans to use consensus Most-Improved-Player award winner Cole Garner to pitch hit for Russell Martin in the 3rd inning in a tie game.”

    :)

  25. randy l. March 7th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    and why is it bad for the rays to have shields at age 30 at a good salary because they brought him up at age 24 .

    jerkface?

  26. Bronx Jeers March 7th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Nick & Trisha,

    You guys are communicating on a bizare wavelength today. I’d join in but i have no idea what you’re talking about. :sad:

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    A well-kept secret is that Pete Abe accessed Joe G’s diary and has been telling people that Pineda will get Game Three in all of the postseason series since Game Three is considered the most important game to win.

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Told ya Kuroda was a mistake!

    :D

  29. m March 7th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    There’s one kind of trans-continental Wacky Wednesday thing going on with Nick and trisha. :P

  30. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    and why is it bad for the rays to have shields at age 30 at a good salary because they brought him up at age 24 .

    First of all, its not bad for a player to come at 24 if thats when they come up. That is not the point. Its simply not BETTER. Shields was injured and missed his age 20 season, and struggled when he returned from injury. He didn’t get back on track until he reached AA-AAA at age 23, and was then called up in his age 24 season. Thats fine. If a player comes up at age 24 so be it, but its better for a players major league experience to line up with their physical peak. You get more out of your career.

  31. yankeefeminista March 7th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Kate, 11PM replay according to the YES sched.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock March 7th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    nice

  33. upstate kate March 7th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    thanks Yankeefem

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Bronx, Nick was doing a take-off on people saying that players who played for the Yankees became better people (something like that). So he mentioned Sidney Ponson and Natalie Holloway – the implication being that Ponson, being from Aruba, would have had to murdered Holloway after he became a Yankee, thus throwing question upon the “becoming a better person playing for the Yankees” theory.

    Because Gene Kinsale is from Aruba also, I just added a curveball but brought it back to the “better person playing for the Yankees” with the way I phrased it.

    He went for the CC – Vallejo connection and I made it a Tug McGraw thing because Tug was from Vallejo.

    I don’t think Nick was intending to have a communication. I just decided to expand the mataphor, as it were.

    :)

  35. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    I REFUSE to judge Kuroda on one ST outing.

    I’m sure fans realize that there will be a learning curve going from the NL to the AL (grr!)

    Though you could also look at it the other way, that since they haven’t seen him, there should be some kind of honeymoon period for him.

    Oh well.

    :)

  36. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Incidentally,

    As a Giants fan I am rooting for the Jets to make a serious push for Peyton Manning, then not get him and have to explain to everyone why, if they’re so convinced that Mark Sanchez is the guy, were they desperately trying to replace him.

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Wow, that really surprised me. I never would have thought that Swisher had the best OBP of all the Yankee hitters. Now that’s depressing!

  38. hardwired7 March 7th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Joe Maddon is hoping this game keeps up its brisk pace.

    He has some storage lockers to bid on later today.

  39. Bronx Jeers March 7th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Oh. OK. In that case I recall Reggie Jackson attempting to assassinate the Queen of Englad while wearing an Angel uniform.

    One’s post Yankess years can also be fraught with criminal behavior.

  40. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    MarcCarig Steven Vogt triples down the right field line. Clearly, Kuroda is an NL pitcher. #TrollTrollTroll

    ___________

    You know it’s easy to dismiss this as a joke, and it is of course (a joke), but it plays to the subject Shame Spencer and I were discussing yesterday.

    The REASON its a joke in the first place is because sports on the internet HAS become a place where “fans” serially overreact to the smallest things. Where “what have you done for me RIGHT NOW” has really become the prevailing mindset.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    “Oh. OK. In that case I recall Reggie Jackson attempting to assassinate the Queen of Englad while wearing an Angel uniform.

    One’s post Yankess years can also be fraught with criminal behavior.”

    :)

  42. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    “He has some storage lockers to bid on later today.”

    Has Joe ever NOT lost money on a locker?

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    GO SORI!

  44. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    ” The REASON its a joke in the first place is because sports on the internet HAS become a place where “fans” serially overreact to the smallest things.”

    This did not happen before the internet?

  45. tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Nick,
    Just not as fast.

  46. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Sori has some filthy pitches.

  47. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    And before this gets into a THING, let me be clear that I only responded so that LGY didn’t have to not respond.

  48. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    “This did not happen before the internet?”

    I’m going to suggest no, not to the same degree.

    “UPDATE, 1:33 p.m.: Yankees are practically handing the Rays the American League East! Six up, six down for New York. Rays lead 2-0 after two, and Joe Girardi is already going to late-inning reliever Rafael Soriano.”

    I don’t recall the absolute serial need to acknowledge a bad inning with a requisite joke like has become SOP of late.

    Do you Nick?

  49. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I don’t recall the absolute serial need to acknowledge a bad inning with a requisite joke like has become SOP of late.

    Do you Nick?

    Were you ever in a dive sports bar in New York where the Bartender did the same thing?

  50. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    You could simply look up old sports articles lamenting a pitchers performance after 1 game and questioning their future on the team.

  51. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Or find transcripts of the sportstelegraph stations where callers would rant in morse code about certain players not deserving their 1000 dollar paychecks.

  52. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Oh Robby!

    :)

  53. Bronx Jeers March 7th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    I’m actually only in here at the request of my wife. She couldnt handle any more Coulter Bean jokes.

  54. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    JF,

    Apparently not.

  55. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    If only Kuroda received that level of defensive excellence behind him :(

  56. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    These jokes don’t prove that the medium created this behavior.

    A lot of stuff happened before the internet.

  57. DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Early chatter outta Seattle is that Montero is gonna challenge Joe D’s 56 Gamer. Or was that here???

  58. Irreverent Discourse March 7th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Someone has never been at a sports bar during a loss. Talk about changing opinions “moving quickly”…

  59. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    All the internet has done is make it easier for you to encounter it :)

  60. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    JF, I suspect this is new(ish).

    I think the internet has provided a tool for people to “vent” about the slightest frustration/aggravation/disappointment, thereby compromising people’s abilities to internally process it, which over time leads to greater perspective.

    I think less and less people can’t see past the next 5 minutes, but the predominant form of communication is ALL about the current 5 minutes.

    I’m totally willing to consider rebuttal to this hypothesis.

    Until Cole Garner gets up, and then I have to get ready to Tweet about whatever he does.

  61. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    “A lot of stuff happened before the internet.”

    Got me there.

  62. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    I think the internet has provided a tool for people to “vent” about the slightest frustration/aggravation/disappointment, thereby compromising people’s abilities to internally process it, which over time leads to greater perspective.

    Eh, the internet has replaced the guys at the bar or your buddies hanging out around the TV, or even anyone within earshot at the park. Go to a game and sit in a crowded section, you’ll want ear muffs because of the deluge of crappy opinions flooding your senses.

    I think you’re off base. Internet just makes it easier for you to read it.

  63. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    “All the internet has done is make it easier for you to encounter it :)

    I would have to say that makes sense. I’ve always been a very patient person, and reading stupidity, whining, crying, and complaining at warp speed hasn’t done anything to less my patience. If anything it probably expands it!

    But I wonder if people who are inclined to fall apart don’t do so more quickly because of the extensive company they have on the internet!

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    I think Twitter is the height of ridiculousness and I refuse to read it or to participate. First of all, I’m not that hung up on anyone’s per second thoughts, nor what they may be doing at any particular moment.

    I always believe that the up-close-and-personal is best understood by what my eyes or ears take in.

  65. randy l. March 7th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    “If a player comes up at age 24 so be it, but its better for a players major league experience to line up with their physical peak.”

    when is a player’s physical peak?

    maybe that’s where we seem to be disagreeing.

  66. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    stuckey, is there some corollary to this hypothesis that explains why some people take longer than pre-internet societal norms would have allowed to pay off losing wagers?

    Like, if someone doesn’t send money within five minutes of thinking about it then he forgets it completely?

  67. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    I think Twitter is the height of ridiculousness and I refuse to read it or to participate

    While some people use it for the mundane, twitter is actually a pretty superior means of communicating between groups, delivering news rapidly, and for comedic purposes.

  68. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    when is a player’s physical peak?

    maybe that’s where we seem to be disagreeing.

    27-28

  69. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    What the internet has done is prove that sports fans for NY and Boston teams are as ignorant as the other teams fans.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    GB – :)

  71. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    “Knicks fans are unquestionably the smartest fans in basketball.”

    – Marv Albert, 1971ish

  72. DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Twitter is nothing but an updated version of the old party line. Bell has gotta be rollin’.

  73. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    JF, i’ve attended many live sporting events pre and post-internet.

    I think the tools the internet provides exasperates the need for instant gratification and externalizing rather than internalizing/processing lack of gratification.

    Not suggesting the foundation of the behavior is any different, just the means of dealing with it as changed.

    The internet HAS undeniably rewritten how generations process information. It’s literally changed people’s cognitive functions.

    I’m merely describing a small offshoot of that.

  74. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Twitter is nothing but an updated version of the old party line. Bell has gotta be rollin’.

    Thats a pretty simple means of explaining it which fails to capture a lot of what makes twitter successful.

  75. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    “Knicks fans are unquestionably the smartest fans in basketball.”

    – Marv Albert, 1971ish”

    Not bad for a cross-dresser.

    Cross dresser – definition

    1. Someone who prefers nudity; someone who gets angry when it’s time to put clothes on

    2. Someone who prefers to adorn her or himself in crucifixes.

    3. A set of drawers either made of crosses or one made of wood but then layered in crosses.

  76. tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Way to go, Swish!

  77. DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Oh great. Stuckey gettin’ stuffy.

  78. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    “stuckey, is there some corollary to this hypothesis that explains why some people take longer than pre-internet societal norms would have allowed to pay off losing wagers?”

    Yes.

    Pre-internet I would have reached into my pocket and extended a hand.

  79. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    And also kind of misses the point, since in a party line everyone is sending and receiving, where as in twitter you must be followed to have your messages received by anyone.

  80. J. Alfred Prufrock March 7th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    that was a nice swing.

  81. RadioKev March 7th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Hating on Twitter is pretty ridiculous, unless you’re an writing teacher.

  82. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    stuckey – Instantaneous “gratification” has to have ramifications somewere. I agree with you.

  83. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Before the internet, a Lost might have still disciplined a P, but not with as many of us watching it unfold in real time.

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    “unless you’re an writing teacher.”

    Kev – I’m guessing you’re not!

    ;)

  85. RadioKev March 7th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    “unless you’re an writing teacher.”

    Kev – I’m guessing you’re not!
    ———

    #ironic

  86. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    You know what is like a party line? Ventrilo.

    I’m actually now on the position that twitter is nothing like a party line.

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock March 7th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Zoilo is like Melky. Hopefully, he can be trusted not to corrupt Robinson Cano.

  88. tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Giardy praising Almonte.

  89. Joe from Long Island March 7th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    lt’s not a good situation not just for the team and players, but for the people in and around Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and Moosic, who count on the games for their livelihood.

  90. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Hey, this is a baseball form, so if it doesn’t interest anyone, no harm no foul. It interests me. Contrary to popular belief, I rarely hold conversations between myself (although it may seem that way sometimes).

    But the tools of communication are rewriting thoughts processes and behavioral patterns. Some for the good, some for no net gain either way, some for the bad.

    To suggest modern communication is having no effect on people is not just missing the boat, it’s showing up at the wrong dock a day late.

  91. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Joe, the guys working construction have to be thrilled, though.

  92. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    To suggest modern communication is having no effect on people is not just missing the boat, it’s showing up at the wrong dock a day late.

    Sure, but I don’t think overreacting is anything new :)

  93. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Darvish is going to be pitching today at 3 pm, I recommend anyone who hasn’t seen him live tune in.

  94. Joe from Long Island March 7th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    hi, gb – a few years ago, we went to scranton to see a game, back when lohud was a bit more civilized. ron (i forget his las name) did a really great job in putting it together. we met a whole lot of good people there, as well as chad and your favorite writer Pete.

    one of the things that really struck us was the good people of moosic. everyone was super friendly, and helpful. at the ballpark, the team auxilliary club, and at the hotel and visitor’s center – they were just really nice, regular folks. they told us how they felt when the phillies pulled their longtime aaa team out of there, and how overjoyed they were when the yankees came in.

    i can’t help but wonder how this is going to affect them, and the local economy, esp. in these tough times.

  95. Patrick March 7th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Chad, bet you are glad you aren’t covering the AAA yankees anymore, especially with their current situation…

  96. upstate kate March 7th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    I see the Empire State Yankees in a different light. Rochester/Syracuse is a day trip for me, so I will finally get to see some of our minor leaguers. There are plenty of Yankees fans in the northern and western parts of NYS who have been deprived of a Yankee minor league team.

  97. Tom in N.J. March 7th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Cross dressers prefer nudity? Aren’t people who prefer nudity called nudists?

  98. tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Nice play, Swish!

  99. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Tom – it was a play on words. If you are “cross” when you have to dress, you likely prefer nudity.

    ****************

    jerkface, is it televised? I can’t find it anywhere televised. Of course I can watch it online if I have to.

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Patrick – what is the AAA current situation?

  101. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    It should be on mlb.tv, mlb.com and most likely mlb network will be cutting in live to his innings

  102. Patrick March 7th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    Patrick – what is the AAA current situation?

    Read the update Chad just posted

  103. luis March 7th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Hi everyone,

    I´m on gameday again….Tried the link Trisha gave but no avail…..:(

  104. luis March 7th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    But to no avail :(

  105. 86w183 March 7th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Because of the situation in Scranton is there a chance of a TRENTON Lo-Hud function???

    I’d love to come up all the way from Florida and Trenton is actually easier to get to.

  106. luis March 7th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    How did Warren looked, i know it wasn´t his best outing but just curious

  107. tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Trish,
    Its on YES, and I was talking about a Swisher cut off and throw to third for an out.

  108. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Lacrosse dressers accessorize with their sticks.

  109. LockDown March 7th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    It should be on mlb.tv, mlb.com and most likely mlb network will be cutting in live to his innings

    —–

    Jerkface – Thanks. I haven’t watched a single ST game yet. But I gotta watch YU!!!!!

  110. Patrick March 7th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    One more thing about the Scranton Yankees (or Empire, whatever). The Yankees wanted to play at the Newark Bears stadium for the season but the Mets blocked the move. So the Mets said screw you to the city of Newark (which this move would have helped), the Yankees, the AAA affiliate, etc.

  111. mick March 7th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    I think Twitter is the height of ridiculousness and I refuse to read it or to participate. First of all, I’m not that hung up on anyone’s per second thoughts, nor what they may be doing at any particular moment.
    ==================================
    Yes, but for those in a hurry it’s ultra important.
    Built for a type A society.
    But a great comedy outlet…like this blog.

  112. TheStraw March 7th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    How about a Rochester LoHud function?

  113. mick March 7th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Because of the situation in Scranton is there a chance of a TRENTON Lo-Hud function???
    ====================================================
    We can meet at the Stadium…under the O’Neill Banner.

  114. mick March 7th, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    – a few years ago, we went to scranton to see a game, back when lohud was a bit more civilized.
    =================================================
    i thought we had improved….oh shucks.

  115. theREALkevin March 7th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Can’t watch Darvish just yet. Too depressed finding out the Yankees never had a shot at him :(

  116. Rice Pudding Flavoured Relief Pitcher March 7th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    “How did Warren looked, i know it wasn´t his best outing but just curious”

    He was much much better in the second inning. His fastball reached 93mph.

  117. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Romulo Sanchez spent 2011 in Japan, didn’t fair well.

  118. luis March 7th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Trisha,

    Are you watching the game with the link you supplied me with the other day?…I tried to use it today but it want´s me to download Streamtorrent, is that safe?

  119. luis March 7th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    MLB gameday sucks!!, the inning is over and it hasn´t even started on it.

    Thanks for the info Rice

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    luis – I don’t download anything they say to download. Don’t do it. It’s all gimmick. You have to just keep closing out those ads until you get to the real screen.

    ***********

    tom, I was talking about the Rangers game with Yu Darvish. I’ve been watching the Y’s game on YES.

    :)

  121. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Looks like the normal rangers game isnt going to be on mlb.tv, but you can see the live look in here: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=20139879

  122. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    UPDATE, 2:13 p.m.: Can’t make this up: It’s been announced that, for this season, the Yankees Triple-A team will be officially called the Empire State Yankees. Because of stadium renovations in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre — in Moosic, to be precise — the team has to play all of its games on the road. Not a good situation.

    ————————-

    Based on this I might juggle the minor league rosters a little if I were the Yankees. Leave the top prospects (Warren, Betances, Banuelos, Romine) the guys who might be called up (Pena, Laird, Curtis) and the major league vets (Hall, Branyan) at AA so they have a consistent place to work out, train and sleep and then send a lesser squad to AAA.

    Guys who you aren’t going to use like Gus Molina or Kevin Whalen – let those be the guys who get run around from town to town.

  123. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Patrick – aah, just saw it. That sure stinks!

  124. DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    - FANTASY KEEPER AUCTION DRAFT $$$ LEAGUE -

    Would you be willing to bid $50 on Yu Darvish. Currently $100 under the $260 cap, and need a 1B and 4 bench spots to fill out the 30 Man team.

  125. LockDown March 7th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    and also here YU: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas.....ishs-debut

    :)

  126. upstate kate March 7th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    But they are really not playing all their games on the road are they? My understanding was that most of their games are in Rochester.

  127. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Joe,

    Afternoon. What’s for supper? We’re starving.

    Yeah, the venders are really going to be hurting unless the companies doing the construction work hired a bunch of them to do the manual labor. I don’t know what the unemployement insurance is paying, or if those folks even qualified for it by working enough. Now is not the time for anyone to be out of work. Gotta feel sorry for those folks.

  128. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    luis, someone else gave another link for watching games in yesterday’s game thread. I’ll try to find it.

  129. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    upstate kate March 7th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    But they are really not playing all their games on the road are they? My understanding was that most of their games are in Rochester.
    —————

    If they’re playing half their games in one park, that’s one thing…if they’re moving around from stadium to stadium playing “home” games in multiple sites – then I wouldn’t put guys who I’m trying to develop through that. And it would be downright impossible to get a major league veteran to agree to play in that situation.

  130. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    - FANTASY KEEPER AUCTION DRAFT $$$ LEAGUE -

    Would you be willing to bid $50 on Yu Darvish. Currently $100 under the $260 cap, and need a 1B and 4 bench spots to fill out the 30 Man team.
    —————

    It would depend on who else is available, but playing his home games in Texas in a division that includes the Angels I would say no.

  131. randy l. March 7th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    “Thats a pretty simple means of explaining it which fails to capture a lot of what makes twitter successful.”

    i think the best thing twitter has going for it is that trisha isn’t on it :)

  132. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Lockdown, thanks! Got it.

    :)

  133. Best To Ever Do It March 7th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    @ Chip sounds like a good idea

  134. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Here’s a shocker – Jon Heyman is still trying to find Johnny Damon (Boras client) a job.

  135. DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    16 teams in League, 30 man rosters, and unlimited Keepers, make the Draft Pool shallow.

  136. Warning Track Power March 7th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Can someone please tell me the name of the Yankees radio station in NYC?

    Also, does that radio station stream Yankees games live over the internet?

  137. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    luis, this is the link someone gave us the other day.

    http://www.oleoletv.com/

    I can’t find baseball anywhere on it but if you play around with it, maybe you’ll find it.

    Hope so!

  138. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Darvishing working 92-94 with wicked offspeed stuff :(

  139. DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    - Jerky -
    Your making Yu sound worth the $50 bid money.

  140. Tom in N.J. March 7th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    http://www.freebaseballradio.com/NYyankeesAug.html

  141. LockDown March 7th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    I’m in love with yu. :P

  142. Cashmoney March 7th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    just watch Davrish finish his first inning… the fast ball look slightly above average with some lateral movement. He struck out quentin on a pretty good 12-6 curve and shows a decent slider as well. The broadcast dudes said he has a screwball or shinto something other, have yet to see that.

  143. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Shuuto, its like a change/screwball type pitch.

  144. upstate kate March 7th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Chip
    Someone, Yankeefem I think, posted their schedule awhile ago. I printed it out b/c I wanted to catch some of the games. If it remains as originally scheduled, half their games are in Rochester, which includes 6 games they are playing against Rochester.

  145. Cashmoney March 7th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    ah, thanks JF. shuuto.

  146. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    8 swinging strikes so far on 21 pitches. SIGH. Darvish.

  147. blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Darvish looked pretty good….his stuff doesn’t jump out at me like Strasburg or Felix or anybody like that…..but looks good. One thing is he’s going to have to work down in the zone….he pitches up a lot from what I’ve seen because probably he coukd elevate that fastball in Japan……Pujols will deposit that deep into the night if he pitches up there in that ballpark.

  148. DONNYBROOK March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Heard the same stuff about Dice K and his Gyro Ball. I haven’t seen Darvish Chuck yet.

  149. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Then he gives up a big fly ball, bust!

  150. tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Tom in NJ,

    WCBS, at any rate, does not stream Yankees games. They cut to their newscasts. I think the only place to get Yankees radio is MLB.com. Costs like $20 for the year.

  151. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    I thought shuuto was a pitch that approaches the plate through a variety of complex number grids.

  152. RadioKev March 7th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    Darvish looked pretty good….his stuff doesn’t jump out at me like Strasburg or Felix or anybody like that…..but looks good. One thing is he’s going to have to work down in the zone….he pitches up a lot from what I’ve seen because probably he coukd elevate that fastball in Japan……Pujols will deposit that deep into the night if he pitches up there in that ballpark.
    ——-

    Just like our buddy Igawa

  153. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Darvish showing off his gold glove :<

  154. Cashmoney March 7th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    good point, blake, his fbs are up in the zone so far.

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Either the Pads don’t have fans, they don’t care about YU because he’s in the AL, or they’ve never heard of him.

    Place is a ghost town!

  156. Warning Track Power March 7th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Tom in NJ,

    WCBS, at any rate, does not stream Yankees games. They cut to their newscasts. I think the only place to get Yankees radio is MLB.com. Costs like $20 for the year.

    ********************************************************************
    Not the info I wanted to read.
    This is 2012. There must be a stream online that is free for Yankee fans like myself that
    refuse to give Bud Selig $20

  157. Yank 97 March 7th, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Darvish looks like a solid pitchers – not a stud, but he could be an Ervin Santana/Johnny Cueto/Chad Billingsly type.

  158. blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Welcome to the big leagues Yu

  159. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 7th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Not bad!

  160. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Gets LHB on a nasty splitter :(

    Darvish can pitch up in the zone because he has an explosive fastball, unlike Igawa who was doing it at 89-91 with no movement. But he does pitch down in the zone as well. Doesn’t hang his breaking stuff and can locate his 2-seam and 4-seam in the lower half.

  161. pat March 7th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    craigcalcaterra
    Plenty of seats available here in Peoria today. Didn’t everyone hear that Darvish was gonna rock our world today? :wink:

  162. Cashmoney March 7th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    at first look, I am more impressed with his off speed stuff than his fastball. it looks like he has a good array of ‘secondary’ pitches.

  163. tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    WTP,
    Wish I had better news. Maybe one of those rural stations Tom in NJ cited will forget to turn off their internet feeds. Happens all the time.

  164. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Darvishing working 92-94 with wicked offspeed stuff :(“”

    Texas isn’t playing the Yankees.

    Why is this bad?

  165. LockDown March 7th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Yu off speed stuff is nasty. And that’s with him getting used to everything including the ball. He’s gonna be a stud, no doubt about it.

  166. RadioKev March 7th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Darvish can pitch up in the zone because he has an explosive fastball
    ———

    92-93 doesn’t sound that explosive. But then again, I didn’t see it, so who am I to judge?

    His season ended later too, right? Would that mean he’s ahead of the US pitchers too? When does the Japanese season typically start?

  167. m March 7th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    That’s Yu-envy, stuckey.

  168. UnKnown March 7th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    hardwired7 March 7th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    Joe Maddon is hoping this game keeps up its brisk pace.

    He has some storage lockers to bid on later today.

    ———–

    Too Funny…

  169. blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Darvish looks good…..guys had some pretty good swings off him though….some pretty solid contact made…..gave up a 425 foot blast to CF that the high fence kept in the park.

  170. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    92-93 doesn’t sound that explosive. But then again, I didn’t see it, so who am I to judge?

    His season ended later too, right? Would that mean he’s ahead of the US pitchers too? When does the Japanese season typically start?

    Got up to 95 on american guns, and it has life. Dudes gonna be good.

    Japanese world series ends later than the american world series, believe it was into november this year, but Darvish was not a part of it. The postseason is in october as usual.

  171. Warning Track Power March 7th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    tomingeorgia March 7th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    WTP,
    Wish I had better news. Maybe one of those rural stations Tom in NJ cited will forget to turn off their internet feeds. Happens all the time.

    *********************************************************************
    Thank You. Previous season I managed to “view” the game via MLB Gameday. This season I was hoping to actually “hear” the game instead. I’ll keep my chin up and hope for the best.

  172. blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Love how the Colts owner stood up there today and said it wasn’t about the money…..too funny.

  173. blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    JF,

    You think Darvish will beat Wilson’s 2011 numbers this year? I would bet not…..

  174. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    “That’s Yu-envy, stuckey.”

    Got it.

  175. UnKnown March 7th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    I’m glad they got Soriano going today and that it was against the Rays. Last year if I remember right he had some hesistation to pitch against them or whatever. Also, seemed like he was trying to create his own Spring Training schedule like MO does.

    At any rate, Soriano seems more comfortable to be a Yankee this year and I think will have a very good season.

  176. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    You think Darvish will beat Wilson’s 2011 numbers this year? I would bet not…..

    You know who else isn’t going to beat Wilson’s 2011 numbers? CJ wilson. How about CC Sabathia? He didn’t hit that ERA mark for the Yankees. Clay Buchholz managed a 2.33 ERA in the AL east but that don’t mean anything. Darvish is going to be consistently excellent for the Rangers over the life of his contract.

  177. LGY March 7th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    I’ll use free baseball radio (the site Tom linked) on my phone if I’m out during a game, run an errand during the game, or whatever. It usually works but it takes some effort to find the right link.

    It’s fine occasionally but it’s not worth the hassle to save 20 bucks if you plan to listen to the radio stream regularly.

  178. blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    “You know who else isn’t going to beat Wilson’s 2011 numbers? CJ wilson.”

    So that’s a no then :) Wilson was pretty good in 2010 also. I think Darvish is gonna be good….Im not sure he’s a top tier guy here though. He’s gonna have to prove that to me…..we shall see.

  179. ZMAN March 7th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    We’ve lost 3 straight ST games, have to get back on the winning track tomorrow

    Now all the media will say that Kuroda can’t pitch in the AL East and we missed the boat on Darvish after 2 innings

  180. Warning Track Power March 7th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    LGY March 7th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    I’ll use free baseball radio (the site Tom linked) on my phone if I’m out during a game, run an errand during the game, or whatever. It usually works but it takes some effort to find the right link.

    It’s fine occasionally but it’s not worth the hassle to save 20 bucks if you plan to listen to the radio stream regularly.

    *******************************************************************
    I appreciate the feedback.
    I plan to hear games on the radio during “afternoon” games and maybe for an inning or two during “evening” games between M-F
    If I spend the $20, I don’t think I would get my money’s worth

  181. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    So that’s a no then

    Hard to predict anyone to throw a 2 ERA in the majors. Even good ones like Felix can fall back into merely the elite level. I think Darvish has the capability to do that in the states, I don’t know if he does it THIS YEAR, but he is going to be worth 4-5 WAR this year which would put him in the top ~30 for starters.

  182. blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    “Hard to predict anyone to throw a 2 ERA in the majors.”

    Exactly….which is why its tough to invest 100+ million in a guy that’s never pitched here IMO

  183. Warning Track Power March 7th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    blake March 7th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    “Hard to predict anyone to throw a 2 ERA in the majors.”

    Exactly….which is why its tough to invest 100+ million in a guy that’s never pitched here IMO

    *******************************************************************
    Rangers can have that guy.
    They overpaid by a large margin for an unknown.
    Maybe the team hit paydirt or maybe they have the next Irabu on their hands? Nobody knows the second week of March.
    IMO, the Yankees did the right thing by not paying $100 million for that arm.

  184. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Exactly….which is why its tough to invest 100+ million in a guy that’s never pitched here IMO

    Uh Darvish doesnt have to throw a 2 era to be worth what the rangers are paying? Did the Yankees sign CC demanding his 2 ERA 2008 season? He’d be a quite a disappointment if that is the standard.

  185. stuckey March 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    “We’ve lost 3 straight ST games, have to get back on the winning track tomorrow

    “Now all the media will say that Kuroda can’t pitch in the AL East and we missed the boat on Darvish after 2 innings”

    ____________

    Your first sentence explains the second.

    Receptive audience.

  186. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    So the question is, why did the Rangers take the plunge on Yu Darvish?

  187. Irreverent Discourse March 7th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Because they lost Wilson?

  188. Chip March 7th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    You think Darvish will beat Wilson’s 2011 numbers this year? I would bet not…..

    You know who else isn’t going to beat Wilson’s 2011 numbers? CJ wilson. How about CC Sabathia? He didn’t hit that ERA mark for the Yankees. Clay Buchholz managed a 2.33 ERA in the AL east but that don’t mean anything. Darvish is going to be consistently excellent for the Rangers over the life of his contract.
    ————–

    I find it hard to believe that he’s going to match expectations. Forget the change in schedule and the change in ball and the increase in opposition talent – he’s also going into a really tough situation for any pitcher. Launching pad of a park, oppressive heat. It won’t be an easy transition for him.

  189. dogface March 7th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Darvish looks like a solid pitchers – not a stud, but he could be an Ervin Santana/Johnny Cueto/Chad Billingsly type

    =========================================

    Don’t know about Darvish, but I’d be happy if Phil Hughes could somehow pitch his way into the E. Santana/Cueto/Billingsley neighborhood you refer too.

  190. Warning Track Power March 7th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Nick-
    Rangers took a chance.
    A leap of faith.
    The team has the resources and they put a lot of eggs in that basket for Yu.

  191. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Because they lost Wilson?

    They didn’t even want to re-sign Wilson :)

  192. Irreverent Discourse March 7th, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Whether they wanted to or not was irrelevant to the fact that he signed with LA. That forced the issue with Darvish, Nolan wasn’t going to lose out on a stud pitcher… and I even posted that exact scenario here. :)

  193. Nick in SF March 7th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    “Because they lost Wilson?”

    Unconvincing. :arrow:

  194. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    It doesn’t force the issue with Darvish, because Texas was targeting Darvish from the very beginning.

  195. blake March 7th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    “Uh Darvish doesnt have to throw a 2 era to be worth what the rangers are paying? Did the Yankees sign CC demanding his 2 ERA 2008 season? He’d be a quite a disappointment if that is the standard.”

    No….but there is no guarantee or track record that he will be a 3 era pitcher either…..or even a 3.5 era pitcher….Sabathia had that…..so do a lot of other pitchers. Look it may work out…..he is talented…..but its one of the bigger gambles a team has ever made IMO

  196. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Garber said the Rangers were polite and cordial to Wilson, but never made a serious offer to keep their ace who made $7.15 million this year.

    Oh no they lost wilson ~

  197. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    .but its one of the bigger gambles a team has ever made IMO

    Bet on the talent. Any big contract for a pitcher is a gamble. Injury or sudden ineffectiveness are the norm for these guys.

  198. blake March 7th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    “Bet on the talent. Any big contract for a pitcher is a gamble. Injury or sudden ineffectiveness are the norm for these guys.”

    Wouldn’t you agree its less of a gamble if the talented guy has a big league track record?

  199. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Wouldn’t you agree its less of a gamble if the talented guy has a big league track record?

    Yes, but it also depends on the pitcher. Lackey, Wilson, Burnett, Zito, Edwin Jackson. I’d not spend 10 million per year on these guys.

  200. Irreverent Discourse March 7th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    jerkface – Glad you have such a great grasp of the situation AFTER IT HAPPENED just like everyone else.

    The public perception at the time was that they lost out on Wilson, so Darvish becoming the focus was obvious. It didn’t come out until after they signed Darvish that was their main plan.

    Don’t let them tell you now that they didn’t want to get Wilson back, because that’s just pure nonsense.

  201. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Don’t let them tell you now that they didn’t want to get Wilson back, because that’s just pure nonsense.

    In the article where CJ Wilson signed, CJ Wilson’s agent said the Rangers never made a serious offer. I’m pretty sure I’m right on this one.

  202. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    The public perception at the time was that they lost out on Wilson

    By whom? You? The rangers were never in on CJ wilson, just like the Yankees were not. Was the public perception that the Yankees lost out on CJ wilson?? If so did you think it was true?

  203. Jerkface March 7th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    The Yankees and Rangers ‘lost out on’ Cliff Lee. Neither lost out on CJ Wilson. If anyone was paying attention to the Rangers they knew a team that was going to be all in on Darvish.

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