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Ibanez: “I take pride in being able to play out there”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 08, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It’s entirely possible that Raul Ibanez is too nice.

“Tremendous clubhouse guy,” Joe Girardi said. “Extremely focused on what he wants to do and what he needs to do. Will do anything that you ask him. In some of our communications I’ve asked him, ‘What do you need? Tell me what you’re thinking.’ He’s like, ‘Whatever you need.’ I’m like, ‘That’s not the answer I’m looking for. You’re not helping me,’ but that’s the kind of guy he is.”

Ibanez spent the past three seasons as the Phillies regular left fielder. He came through the minor leagues as a right fielder. He’s played 136 big league games at first base. He was a regular designated hitter through the first half of 2005 before taking over in left field after the Mariners traded Randy Winn.

“I would have been happy doing whatever (this season),” Ibanez said. “I would’ve been happy playing for the New York Yankees, so I’m happy to do whatever. I wouldn’t say (playing the field) was important, but I do take pride in being able to play out there.”

When the Yankees were negotiating with Ibanez, they made it clear that they envisioned him as a designated hitter who could play both outfield corners. Nevermind that he hadn’t played right field since 2005 — all of three games that year — Ibanez was in right when he played the field for the first time this spring. He caught the only fly ball hit that way.

“I haven’t played right field in a long time,” Ibanez said. “But that’s ok. It comes back… I’m ready to do whatever Joe wants me to do. So whatever he needs me to do, I’m ready to help.”

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205 Responses to “Ibanez: “I take pride in being able to play out there””

  1. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Swell. Ibanez is a great guy.

    Any feedback on Betances?

  2. luis March 8th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
    Swell. Ibanez is a great guy.

    Any feedback on Betances?

    ====================

    LMAO!!! +1 :)

  3. Yankee Trader March 8th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Hopefully, Ibanez will show more with the bat than he’s shown. Is Russell Branyan nearer a return?

  4. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    +2 :mrgreen:

  5. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    You’d best hope that Ibanez has a good year at DH instead of complaining about it because he’s the best full-time option NY has at this time. Montero isn’t coming back so you may as well accept it.

  6. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Trader, you could say the same thing about most of the other players, including Cano.

  7. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    JAP, YT and YF,

    Since it seems that we have the forum for ourselves, What do you guys take out of the comments made by Nova earlier?

  8. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Sorry GB,

    Wasn’t aware that you were around

  9. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    I am not concerned about Nova at all.

  10. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Jones will end up the full-time DH.

  11. Abomb82 March 8th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    They really should have sold Nova high this winter, and Romine as well.

  12. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Me neither, just trying to spark some conversation

  13. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Abomb82,

    Nova is the kind of pitcher that you keep, especially after a couple of meaningless ST starts

  14. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    On the 8th of March, there is very little beyond Robertson’s foot to have any concerns about.

  15. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    I would be fine with trading Nova (or anyone else) in the right deal, but I don’t think trading him now would be selling high.

    Romine should have been the catching prospect to be traded.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    WTF??

    I have to jump up and down because Girardi is gushing over what a “tremendous clubhouse” guy 40 year old Raul Ibanez is?

    You know, stalking me about Montero is not going to make this month’s issue of Tiger Beat make it into your mailbox more quickly. You’re just jealous because I’m out-grumping you these days.

    I asked for something on the Yankees’ top pitching prospect – that’s my way of looking ahead and being positive.

    Now leave me to my bitterness.

  17. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Don’t you think if it was Romine that Seattle had asked for, he would have been gone?

  18. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    “I have to jump up and down because Girardi is gushing over what a “tremendous clubhouse” guy 40 year old Raul Ibanez is?”

    It beats puking…

  19. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Romine should have been the catching prospect to be traded.

    —————————–

    Only if the deal made sense. I was hoping to see a tandem of JM/Romine by 2013, the one expendable was Cervelli

  20. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    “Don’t you think if it was Romine that Seattle had asked for, he would have been gone?”

    That assumes that they had to have Pineda and only Pineda.

  21. jacksquat March 8th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    It’s nice that he’s nice, but they still should have signed Damon. They don’t need a backup RF. Hopefully he hits, or Smiley starts hitting rhp.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
    Abomb82,

    Nova is the kind of pitcher that you keep, especially after a couple of meaningless ST starts
    ///

    luis, any RHP that gets the kind of sink on the ball he does is a good bet for Yankee Stadium. This is another reason why y’all need to give my boy Dellin some love :D.

  23. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    Don’t you think if it was Romine that Seattle had asked for, he would have been gone?

    ======================

    Nope, they wouldn’t have made the deal

  24. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    “Only if the deal made sense.”

    Of course, luis. I was hoping that Martin would be traded (one year left of team control, injury history in career), but obviously, that’s more fantasy than reality.

  25. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Johnny Demon is so hooked up on getting his at bats in the next 2 years that it’s possible that he could be rather disruptive if he feels he’s not getting enough at bats. No thanks. That’s not something that’s needed.

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    “I have to jump up and down because Girardi is gushing over what a “tremendous clubhouse” guy 40 year old Raul Ibanez is?”

    It beats puking…
    ///

    Send that pail this way.

  27. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    JAP,

    I saw Dellin pitch last ST, i loved what i saw….I don’t know about his poise though, i haven’t seen him in a game that means something…But i do trust your opinion…I love Nova’s poise, does Dellin has that kind of personality?

  28. Yanks78 March 8th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    I think people do want to get attached to Betances, but are afraid that the nasal elf will trade him for a “proven commodity”

    The Montero trade stuck a knife in our heart’s so I don’t blame people for being skeptical.

  29. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    “Romine should have been the catching prospect to be traded.”

    This isn’t going to make any more sense the more times you write it.

    This is like saying when Austin Jackson was traded, “Colin Curtis should have been the outfield prospect to be traded”.

    The logic thread is so bear it breaks on contact.

  30. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    Don’t you think if it was Romine that Seattle had asked for, he would have been gone?
    ///

    Do you??? (& Seattle wasn’t asking for Romine, so that is just silliness).

  31. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Dellin’s got great makeup. Cash loves his work ethic. Kid is extremely committed.

  32. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    “Cash loves his work ethic.”

    Then he’s as good as gone…

  33. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
    “Only if the deal made sense.”

    Of course, luis. I was hoping that Martin would be traded (one year left of team control, injury history in career), but obviously, that’s more fantasy than reality.

    ===========================

    I’m not a fan of Martin, his batting approach is atrocious, to put it in a kind way. I stills have nightmares of his at bats in the ALDS, while you know who was sitting in the dugout.

  34. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    This reminds me of several members of this forum the last two months.

    http://t.qkme.me/24qr.jpg

  35. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    You are comparing apples with oranges, Jackson was not nearly the prospect that JM is. Same thing with the comparison between Curtis and Romine, different level of prospects.

  36. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Gary Sanchez:

    “Can you speak a bit more to what specifically has him so high on your list, and perhaps where he resides in your current catcher prospect pantheon?

    Kevin Goldstein
    BP staff

    Guys with this kind of in game power at this age are very, very rare commodities. The bat could be special.

    Or put it this way, he’s three months younger than Bryce Harper, and in the same league, he had more home runs in fewer at-bats.”

  37. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Dellin’s got great makeup. Cash loves his work ethic. Kid is extremely committed.

    ———————-

    Thanks YF, as much as i love JM, i think the perfect yankee story has to be this kid becoming a part of the team….A bleacher creature turned in to the ace of the Yankee staff!! that will be something.

  38. Chad Jennings March 8th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    On Betances….

    Didn’t see a second of his outing. I don’t think any writers did. Nova spoke to the media in the fifth or sixth inning, and all of the writers stayed down there to talk to other guys as they finished playing. Only thing I know about Betances today is hearing him talk about getting into a jam and getting some groundballs when he needed to. He said a curveball got away from him at some point, but I’m not sure what happened on that particular pitch.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
    JAP,

    I saw Dellin pitch last ST, i loved what i saw….I don’t know about his poise though, i haven’t seen him in a game that means something…But i do trust your opinion…I love Nova’s poise, does Dellin has that kind of personality?
    ///

    Dellin’s issues are purely mechanical. His poise shows in that he’s good at correcting control problems once they surface, and he can get a K when he needs it and groundballs for DPs to get out of trouble. I wish they’d let him, Manny, Warren, et al get out of trouble later in games, though. They need to take the next step.

  40. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Luis,

    The level of the prospects is entirely beside the point.

    The “logic” assumes the Yankees were determined to trade a catching prospect and chose the wrong one, as it moving a catcher was the point and premise, rather than trading a player the yankees wanted for a player the Mariners wanted.

  41. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    “Cash loves his work ethic.”

    Then he’s as good as gone…
    ____
    He didn’t say it to the media though, so not the same thing. :) And when did Cash say he loved His work ethic (oh, He of the disciplinary action)?

  42. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Montero isn’t coming back so you may as well accept it.

    —————–

    It would be easier to accept if they had major league ready bats on the doorstep to the big club.

  43. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Thanks, Chad! Dellin can conjure up the GB-DP when he needs it. @49% GB rate in Trenton in 2011.

    How does Adams look running the bases?

  44. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    “Guys with this kind of in game power at this age are very, very rare commodities. The bat could be special.”

    It’s cool fellas, I got this one…

    It’ll be special on another team, because Cashman will trade him…

    Get it..?

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Chad Jennings March 8th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
    On Betances….

    Didn’t see a second of his outing. I don’t think any writers did. Nova spoke to the media in the fifth or sixth inning, and all of the writers stayed down there to talk to other guys as they finished playing. Only thing I know about Betances today is hearing him talk about getting into a jam and getting some groundballs when he needed to. He said a curveball got away from him at some point, but I’m not sure what happened on that particular pitch.
    ///

    Thanks, Chad. I think he may be talking about the HBP on Jimenez. There’s a lot of media buzz around Manny but not much on Betances, even though he’s got the best stuff in the system. I look forward to anything Rothschild has to offer on his progress in ST.

  46. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Montero would be crazy to come back.

  47. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    Luis,

    The level of the prospects is entirely beside the point.

    The “logic” assumes the Yankees were determined to trade a catching prospect and chose the wrong one, as it moving a catcher was the point and premise, rather than trading a player the yankees wanted for a player the Mariners wanted.

    ==========================

    Then i think you misunderstood Rich, i think he meant that if you wanted to trade a catcher prospect, Romine was the one tha tshould have been traded.

  48. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Thanks Chad,

    Hope they let him pitcher longer in to the games

  49. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Montero would be crazy to come back.

    ———–

    Crazy is not the word

  50. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
    GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    Don’t you think if it was Romine that Seattle had asked for, he would have been gone?
    ///

    Do you??? (& Seattle wasn’t asking for Romine, so that is just silliness).

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Boy….nothing gets past you, does it? Didn’t I just say that Seattle wanted Montero and not Romine? NYY wouldn’t have traded either of them for less than the pitcher of their choice, not counting Hernandez. They wanted a near future top of the line and saw Pineda as that pitcher.

  51. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Stuckey,

    Now i am the one that missundertood you. I get your point.

  52. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    misunderstood you.

  53. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    luis

    It’s about expendability and needs. IMO, Romine was expendable while Montero wasn’t. If they felt they needed a young pitcher (I don’t think they did), then you gauge what your expendable assets can yield.

  54. MG March 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    the basic contention of many on this blog is that the Yankees are great at finding talent, awful at developing it and then, when these great talents work through the poor development and are ready to make a splash at the big league level they get traded for a known commodity who may or may not work out.

    there is something very wrong with the above statement, it’s like the Yankees want to eff up every prospect so they don’t live up to the expectations of many of you and delight in sending them elsewhere.

    How about this-the development of baseball players is an inexact science and sometimes you get players like Robbie Cano who emerge with no hype to become future Hall of Famers and sometimes you get Ruben Rivera or Jose Tabata, both of whom were hugely hyped and barely make a mark on the game.

    Jesus Montero may be future Hall of Famer or just an average big leaguer, no one can say either with any certainty, but isn’t it time to either forget about him or become Mariners fans?

  55. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Odds,

    Just curious, what would be the right word?

  56. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    “How about this-the development of baseball players is an inexact science and sometimes you get players like Robbie Cano who emerge with no hype to become future Hall of Famers and sometimes you get Ruben Rivera or Jose Tabata, both of whom were hugely hyped and barely make a mark on the game.”

    Yet some teams have more hits than others, TB, to cite a recent example.

    So is it merely an accident or the fruit of a plan? I think the latter possibility can’t be discounted.

  57. blake March 8th, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    “Or put it this way, he’s three months younger than Bryce Harper, and in the same league, he had more home runs in fewer at-bats.”

    I’ve only seen him one AB and some stuff on youtube but he definitely swings the stick with ill intentions.

  58. luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
    luis

    It’s about expendability and needs. IMO, Romine was expendable while Montero wasn’t. If they felt they needed a young pitcher (I don’t think they did), then you gauge what your expendable assets can yield.

    ////

    Totally agree with you. That’s what i try to say. But Stukey was just saying what the FO thought, and wether we agree with them or not, he is right on that regard. They wanted Pineda more than keeping Montero.

  59. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    MG, how about we don’t forget him, continue to root for him, but remain diehard Yankee fans? Or is that not an option?

  60. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    “But Stukey was just saying what the FO thought, and wether we agree with them or not, he is right on that regard. They wanted Pineda more than keeping Montero.”

    Stuckey’s really going out on a limb there.

  61. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Tampa doesn’t have much of a track record for developing bats. Their claim to fame is stinking for 10 years and then developing pitchers.

  62. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    “They wanted Pineda more than keeping Montero.”

    Apparently, and I hope the risk, that Cashman acknowledged, pays off in a big way, beginning in April and ending in like 2030. Cashman’s track record in trading for pitchers is not overwhelmingly good, so I’m skeptical, which, granted, is heresy to some.

  63. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    blake March 8th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
    “Or put it this way, he’s three months younger than Bryce Harper, and in the same league, he had more home runs in fewer at-bats.”

    I’ve only seen him one AB and some stuff on youtube but he definitely swings the stick with ill intentions.

    ===================

    From what i’ve seen. He needs to shorten his swing.

  64. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    MG, how about we don’t forget him, continue to root for him, but remain diehard Yankee fans? Or is that not an option?

    ————————-

    +1

  65. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    I understand people don’t want to hear about this guy anymore.

    I understand that for the smarter sort in here, it is painful to hear about him.

    I even understand the emotionally-driven pettiness of people here wanting him to fail, and them being genuinely excited about a big young arm like Pineda.

    But I can’t listen to the BS that the Yankees were torn about giving up Montero, whom they tried to trade 3 effin’ times that we know of.

    The spin doctoring about the wise, sage Yankees capitulating under extreme duress is nauseating.

    The manager made Romine fly to the West Coast to avoid catching this guy, so worried were they that potential trade partners would be as dense as they are, and reject a bat like that because he might give up a passed ball or two or not be able to get the ball out of glove in a catching appearance.

    Let’s not turn the Yankees into martyrs who were merely compelled to follow the light of illumination.

  66. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    luis, he is a mere babe; give him time. Plus toward season’s end the word on him was that he was hitting to all fields, and finished up at .433 with something like 7 homers in his last nine games.

  67. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    “But I can’t listen to the BS that the Yankees were torn about giving up Montero, whom they tried to trade 3 effin’ times that we know of.”

    And each time they lowered his value because every sentient GM knew that he was expendable despite any claims to the contrary.

    “I even understand the emotionally-driven pettiness of people here wanting him to fail…”

    Full disclosure, I have to cop to this in the sense that I can’t root for an ex-Yankee. Messed up, I know, but…

  68. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    “From what i’ve seen. He needs to shorten his swing.”

    Yea..its a little long….he’s really young though and most reports indicate he has pretty good stride zone command.

  69. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Spot on.

  70. MG March 8th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    the Yankees made a decision that Montero was not going to be part of the team going forward, for all anyone here disagrees with that it was their decision to make and was not left to a vote of the fanbase.

    It was most likely a clear decision, I think all the statements from Cashman about Montero being the best player he’s ever traded were bs, they just decided he didn’t fit for whatever reason(s) they had, most of which we will never know.

    No matter what happens down the road it can’t be the worst trade ever made, the Reds traded Frank Robinson to the Orioles for Milt Pappas and the Cubs traded Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio. And let’s not forget the Red Sox ‘trading’ Babe Ruth for a bag of balls and enough cash to put the Sox owner out of debt.

    Stuff happens in baseball, these guys get paid to make decisions, we as fans only see a small portion of the rationale, the rest is just spin.

  71. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    “The manager made Romine fly to the West Coast to avoid catching this guy, so worried were they that potential trade partners would be as dense as they are…”

    That’s not spin doctoring?

  72. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    luis March 8th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Odds,

    Just curious, what would be the right word

    ————-

    The word would be insane to come back to an organization that never really believed in you

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Montero would be crazy to come back.

    ———–

    Crazy is not the word
    ///

    What happened yesterday may bring him back, with that long single. Big hitters don’t voluntarily go to Seattle. Montero in Yankee Stadium, at age 27, could own NYC. No more ARod, Cano in mid-30s, etc.

  74. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    •Yankees closer Mariano Rivera denied a New York Post report from yesterday that claimed he would announce his possible retirement plans before the All-Star Break. Rivera told Wallace Matthews of ESPN New York that “nothing’s changed” about his future plans and that he will “tell everybody what my plans are at the same time after the season.”

  75. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Odds, the odds are Girardi won’t be here in six years, even if they win some. Nor Cashman. They’re the ones who gave him no shot. Why take it out on the pinstripes? Contrary to opinion here, Those guys are not the Yankees. The Yankees will be here when they’re gone.

  76. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    luis, he is a mere babe; give him time. Plus toward season’s end the word on him was that he was hitting to all fields, and finished up at .433 with something like 7 homers in his last nine games.

    ==================

    Don’t get me wrong. I want El Maquinito to be the next Yankee catcher.Probably he was a bit nervous. ;)

  77. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Did Ken Griffey, Jr. ever forgive the Yankee even after Billy Martin was dead?

  78. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    If the Yankees tried to get him back later, that would mean they believed in him. Just like Marcus Thames!

  79. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Tampa doesn’t have much of a track record for developing bats. Their claim to fame is stinking for 10 years and then developing pitchers.

    —————-

    But their so good at developing pitchers that no one cares about the 10 yrs when they stunk. Besides pitching is the keys to the kingdom right.

  80. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Luis, sorry I was caught up in hearing about Betances. Yea, I love Nova. The kid is tough, and I don’t worry about him at all, unless it’s the forearm or something. Doesn’t sound like much but the ST yips. I think Nova’s just very open with the media. He is strong inwardly, so that’s ok. Just says what’s on his mind.

  81. MG March 8th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
    Did Ken Griffey, Jr. ever forgive the Yankee even after Billy Martin was dead?
    —————————-
    He had no grudge against them, I played golf with him right before he signed with the Reds and he didn’t run away from me when I told him I was a lifelong Yankees fan :)

  82. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 9:46 pm Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Montero would be crazy to come back.

    ———–

    Crazy is not the word ///

    What happened yesterday may bring him back, with that long single. Big hitters don’t voluntarily go to Seattle. Montero in Yankee Stadium, at age 27, could own NYC. No more ARod, Cano in mid-30s, etc

    ———-

    He could but where is the desire to come back?

  83. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    The word would be insane to come back to an organization that never really believed in you

    ////

    I hope that’s not the case. But i have to recognize that is going to be a hard sell, which i hope some of us at NYS can start to make. :)

  84. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    They’re not their

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
    “The manager made Romine fly to the West Coast to avoid catching this guy, so worried were they that potential trade partners would be as dense as they are…”

    That’s not spin doctoring?
    //

    Um, because it happened?

  86. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    Which part of that actually happened and which part of it is your theory about why it happened?

  87. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    “He had no grudge against them, I played golf with him right before he signed with the Reds and he didn’t run away from me when I told him I was a lifelong Yankees fan”

    Someone needs to start playing golf with Montero in Seattle!!!!!!

  88. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    He could but where is the desire to come back?
    ///

    He might jump at the chance to play here again. He was psyched to be a Yankee. He said “this is my house,” etc. He knows that this is the perfect home for his bat and natural power stroke away. Baseball players who can put up ridiculous numbers pay attention to that sort of thing. How much more prolific could he be here? How much money could he make?

  89. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
    Luis, sorry I was caught up in hearing about Betances. Yea, I love Nova. The kid is tough, and I don’t worry about him at all, unless it’s the forearm or something. Doesn’t sound like much but the ST yips. I think Nova’s just very open with the media. He is strong inwardly, so that’s ok. Just says what’s on his mind.

    ==================

    I agree, the kid has ice on his veins. I love the kid

  90. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Odds, the odds are Girardi won’t be here in six years, even if they win some. Nor Cashman. They’re the ones who gave him no shot. Why take it out on the pinstripes? Contrary to opinion here, Those guys are not the Yankees. The Yankees will be here when they’re gone

    ————-

    True but ppl can take things hard when it comes to certain situations.

  91. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Odds,

    He was crushed when he heard about the trade. He wanted to be a Yankee more than anything else.

  92. Yanks78 March 8th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    I find it humorous and ironic that the Yankees were classless and petty when leaking all that crap about Montero’s work ethic after trading him, only for the prized player of the trade, Pineda, to show up in camp out of shape.

    Girardi and Cashman are so out of touch, it is funny. Like they expect all young players to act like 10 yr vets like Derek Jeter did coming up. That is the exception, not the norm.

  93. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    luis, he is a mere babe; give him time. Plus toward season’s end the word on him was that he was hitting to all fields, and finished up at .433 with something like 7 homers in his last nine games.

    ==================

    Don’t get me wrong. I want El Maquinito to be the next Yankee catcher.Probably he was a bit nervous.
    _____
    He was learning to go opposite field, to play in night games, work on his defense and to play an extended schedule, as well as continuing to adjust to being stateside. So, he had a lot on his plate. (both literally and figuratively) ;)

  94. MG March 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    if the Yankees offer Montero the biggest FA contract on the table when he is eligible he will sign in a heartbeat.

    Professional athletes know being traded is just part of the business and don’t take it personally for very long, they can’t afford to have long memories about things like that.

    Just look at David Wells coming back to the Yankees after being traded for Roger Clemens and mouthing off about how unfair it was and you’ll understand.

  95. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
    Which part of that actually happened and which part of it is your theory about why it happened?
    ///

    What’s yours?

    At the time, I had this crazy theory that they could have just used Montero rather than pull a catcher out of AAA who was in another time zone.

  96. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    He could but where is the desire to come back? ///

    He might jump at the chance to play here again. He was psyched to be a Yankee. He said “this is my house,” etc. He knows that this is the perfect home for his bat and natural power stroke away. Baseball players who can put up ridiculous numbers pay attention to that sort of thing. How much more prolific could he be here? How much money could he make

    ————————

    True but he can make money in different markets as well. Look what Albert got in LA or what Prince got from the Tigers. He could always go to Boston and hit there.

  97. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    MG March 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    if the Yankees offer Montero the biggest FA contract on the table when he is eligible he will sign in a heartbeat.
    ///

    I don’t see why not. He said it was his dream to follow Posada, be like Posada. He’d get paid, and he’d be a Yankee slugger, which is what he was meant to be.

    It was meant.

  98. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    What was his work ethics problem?…That he was disapointed because he didn’t made the team out of ST?. He is 22 years old, cut him some slack please.

  99. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    True but he can make money in different markets as well. Look what Albert got in LA or what Prince got from the Tigers. He could always go to Boston and hit there.
    ////

    To paraphrase Bartleby, I’d prefer not to think about that :D.

  100. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Odds,

    He was crushed when he heard about the trade. He wanted to be a Yankee more than anything

    ————-

    I’m sure he was crushed. He bought into being a Yankee because all he heard was he’s the catcher of the future.

  101. Yanks78 March 8th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Seattle has a rich owner – they can afford to lock up Jesus

    Besides, why would he want to come back to a team with a GM/manager who think the likes of Austin Romain and Russel Martin are better than him and can’t even give him a couple of meaningless September games to catch?

  102. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    MG March 8th, 2012 at 10:23 pm if the Yankees offer Montero the biggest FA contract on the table when he is eligible he will sign in a heartbeat

    —————-

    Like Cliff Lee? even though it wasn’t the highest it was up there.

  103. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    “What’s yours?”

    I don’t think I’m required to have a competing theory to question the validity of yours, but I’m not even doing that, I’m just asking you to recognize your theory as such.

    The part about bringing in Romine to avoid having Montero catch isn’t very controversial.

    The part about not wanting to showcase Montero’s catching skills or lack thereof isn’t all that controversial either, just your spin about the motive and the density.

    And then the trading partner turned out to be the one team in the league that would care the least about Montero’s catching skills or lack thereof, so I don’t think anyone was fooled by the crafty Cashman.

  104. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Really, when you think about it, Montero probably won’t be available, assuming he does well, until he’s over 30 because Seattle would buy out some years of his free agency. At that point, I would hope that the Yankees wouldn’t have a need.

  105. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Yanks78 March 8th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    By then porbably girardi won’t be at the helm of the team.

  106. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    “And then the trading partner turned out to be the one team in the league that would care the least about Montero’s catching skills or lack thereof,”

    According to what Chad has reported here, that isn’t true. The Mariners have said that they will bring him along slowly behind the plate, but see him as a full-time catcher as he matures.

  107. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    “The Mariners have said that they will bring him along slowly behind the plate, but see him as a full-time catcher as he matures.”

    Yeah, I’ve heard that spin before too.

  108. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
    “And then the trading partner turned out to be the one team in the league that would care the least about Montero’s catching skills or lack thereof,”

    According to what Chad has reported here, that isn’t true. The Mariners have said that they will bring him along slowly behind the plate, but see him as a full-time catcher as he matures.

    =====================

    He is going to catch. he may not become Johny Bench, but he will hold his own, Book it.

  109. CompassRosy March 8th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    :::: Jesus Montero may be future Hall of Famer or just an average big leaguer, no one can say either with any certainty, but isn’t it time to either forget about him or become Mariners fans? ::::

    I’d be happy to have the company :)

    Hey, speaking of company, will you all be watching the MLB Opener? It starts at 6am ET so, I was thinking I might hang out with you for some “cyber company”. I doubt anyone will want to watch it with me in person. It’s hard enough to find company for regular games, I’m thinking it’ll be next to impossible for a 3am first pitch.

  110. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    “Yeah, I’ve heard that spin before too.”

    Oh please, by your standard we can call everything that comes out of every GM/manager’s mouth, spin, which leads to a slippery slope of not bothering to read anything about baseball that isn’t a report of game action.

  111. ZMAN March 8th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    The Yankees used that spin to up his trade value to trade him. They never intended to give him a fair shot.

    What motivation do the Ms have to say that about him? They don’t need to up his value. They also have an opening at DH and recognize the fact that they need bats – not bats at premium positions.

  112. rm March 8th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    The last time I remember anybody whining so much about the Yankees trading a prospect it was for Branden Clausen.

  113. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Hey, speaking of company, will you all be watching the MLB Opener? It starts at 6am ET so, I was thinking I might hang out with you for some “cyber company”. I doubt anyone will want to watch it with me in person. It’s hard enough to find company for regular games, I’m thinking it’ll be next to impossible for a 3am first pitch.

    I’m gonna be watching it.

  114. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    “The last time I remember anybody whining so much about the Yankees trading a prospect it was for Branden Clausen.”

    You’re whining.

  115. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    No, Rich. Not a slippery slope at all. But we heard the exact same thing from the Yankees.

    No doubt the M’s are hoping and praying that Montero can catch some, but they don’t need him to catch, they need him to hit and I bet they do their darndest to maximize his at-bats this season, not his innings receiving the ball.

    We’ll see how much he actually catches. I hope a lot!

  116. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Rosy, yes, I’ll set my alarm clock and as long as I don’t sleep through it, I’ll wake up to fukamushi sencha and eat a Japanese breakfast of yosenabe to set the tone before joining you! :)

  117. luis March 8th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Who will be broadcasting the opener?

  118. CompassRosy March 8th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    OK ~

    JF, YF, et al … it’s a date :-)

    I’m going to try and get the day off work (or at least revise my schedule a bit)

  119. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    It will be on mlb-tv, but not sure if there is a national broadcast because of the early hour–6AM Eastern. What time will it be in Venezuela, Luis?

  120. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    It’s going to be hectic monitoring Montero, Darvish, and Melky.

    On top of watching the Yankees.

  121. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    :::: Jesus Montero may be future Hall of Famer or just an average big leaguer, no one can say either with any certainty, but isn’t it time to either forget about him or become Mariners fans? ::::
    ////

    Unless something happens to him physically, one can say with certainty that Montero isn’t going to be an average hitter. This idea in here since the trade that Montero’s bat is some crap shoot is fantasy.

  122. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    It’s going to be hectic monitoring Montero, Darvish, and Melky.

    On top of watching the Yankees
    ////

    Thanks for reminding me I need new batteries for that remote. Going to be grueling, switching back and forth.

  123. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Ibanez. There’s a guy who will be fun monitoring.

  124. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Luis should be about 30 minutes behind EST. Should be 1130 PM right now

  125. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Too bad Darvish has to be on loathsome Texas of all teams. & Nick, what about adding milb-tv to follow the kiddies to your sched? :twisted:

  126. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Thanks for reminding me I need new batteries for that remote. Going to be grueling, switching back and forth.
    _____
    How about driving from minor league park to minor league park while watching the away games on an ipad? Madness.

  127. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    No doubt the M’s are hoping and praying that Montero can catch some, but they don’t need him to catch
    ///

    If we “needed” him to catch, why couldn’t we have just tapped the genius for catcher defense that is Russell Munson to mentor The Jesus?

  128. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    # yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Thanks for reminding me I need new batteries for that remote. Going to be grueling, switching back and forth.
    _____
    How about driving from minor league park to minor league park while watching the away games on an ipad? Madness.
    ///

    Nah, I can’t compete with that :D

  129. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    “How about driving from minor league park to minor league park while watching the away games on an ipad? ”

    ipading while driving? btw, DLing iOS 5.1 took a lot of time.

  130. rm March 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    “The last time I remember anybody whining so much about the Yankees trading a prospect it was for Branden Clausen.”

    You’re whining.

    I guess I must be. You’re clearly an expert in the field

  131. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    YF,

    We used to have the same timeline of the East Coast, except in winter when we had one hour diference. But they change it. We have a half an hour diference, right now is 11:37 pm. When do you change the time from winter time to spring- summer time?

  132. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    luis, March 11th. I can’t wait. Additional perk: The time change means baseball is on the horizon. :)

  133. lounge lizard March 8th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    . . . sometimes you get Ruben Rivera or Jose Tabata, both of whom were hugely hyped and barely make a mark on the game.
    ___________________________________________________

    2011 OPS+

    Jose Tabata 98 (age 23)
    Brett Gardner 89 (age 28)

    The Pirates like Tabata enough to lock him up for 6 years/$15 million. His opportunity to make a mark lies before him and it is absurdly premature to put him in a bucket with Ruben Rivera.

    When Bernie Williams was age 24, he OPS+’d 100.

  134. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    “I guess I must be. You’re clearly an expert in the field”

    Ouch. Such wit.

    Lighten up, dude. Seriously.

  135. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    “what about adding milb-tv to follow the kiddies to your sched?”

    I don’t think I have the attention span on top of monitoring the others, and there will be no shortage of updates here.

    Plus, falling in love with prospects is a good way to get your heart broken, don’t you know? :cry:

  136. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    YF,

    On March 11th, i will have 30 minutes less than you guys. YES! baseball is near!!

  137. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    “I find it humorous and ironic that the Yankees were classless and petty when leaking all that crap about Montero’s work ethic after trading him, only for the prized player of the trade, Pineda, to show up in camp out of shape.”

    The first half of this sentence reminds me of people who get talking points from cable news that have relation to reality.

    The Yankees suspended him twice in consecutive years. NEITHER of these things were publicly revealed AFTER the trade. Both were matter of public record BEFORE the trade and neither are actions of a team trying to protect a players trade value.

    I have NO idea of either action was warranted. I have NO idea if Montero didn’t FULLY receive the lesson the second time. They Yankees might have overreacted and/or Montero may have matured or never had to.

    But the Yankees haven’t mounted a campaign after the fact and is amazing to see someone process information in such a slanted, distorted way.

  138. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    2011 OPS+

    Jose Tabata 98 (age 23)
    Brett Gardner 89 (age 28)

    The Pirates like Tabata enough to lock him up for 6 years/$15 million. His opportunity to make a mark lies before him and it is absurdly premature to put him in a bucket with Ruben Rivera.

    When Bernie Williams was age 24, he OPS+’d 100.

    =====================

    ouch!

  139. rm March 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    “I guess I must be. You’re clearly an expert in the field”

    Ouch. Such wit.

    Lighten up, dude. Seriously.

    Exactly lighten up you guys have got to let it go. The trade is done. The Yankees have a great team this year. You should talk about the plaers who are on the team not the one we had to give up.

  140. Ys Guy March 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    hahahaha the montero huggers will never get over losing their boy. it used to be annoying, now its just comical.

    as for damon, every other team passed on the guy for what he was asking, so why do so many want the yankes to be the ‘one dumb team’ let him sit out half a season then when it sinks in that 3000 hits is fading away, he’ll jump to play for anybody. and he still won’t make 3000. he’s basically done and his contract demands (and possibly at-bat demands) are going to end his career. nice guy but maybe he was right about being and idiot.

  141. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    stuckey,

    Not the yankees, but the media has…..

  142. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    I don’t think I have the attention span on top of monitoring the others, and there will be no shortage of updates here.

    ____
    Didn’t you hear the mandate? We are no longer allowed to discuss prospects here because disclaimer: we are not actually scouts.

  143. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    “Exactly lighten up you guys have got to let it go. The trade is done. ”

    You must have missed this post I made earlier in the thread:

    “Full disclosure, I have to cop to this in the sense that I can’t root for an ex-Yankee. Messed up, I know, but…”

    “The Yankees have a great team this year.”

    But since you are intent on keeping the discussion alive, it was never about just this season. It was about the potential decline of important bats in the lineup over the next few years.

  144. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Ys Guy March 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Damon, should have taken the contract the Yankees offered him, instead of going to Detroit, he might have had a chance to reach those 3000

  145. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    # rm March 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    “The last time I remember anybody whining so much about the Yankees trading a prospect it was for Branden Clausen.”

    You’re whining.

    //////

    Do you mean Brandon Claussen? The pitcher who lasted like 3 years? Yeah, that’s a great comp for Jesus Montero.

  146. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    CompassRosy March 8th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
    OK ~

    JF, YF, et al … it’s a date

    I’m going to try and get the day off work (or at least revise my schedule a bit)
    _____
    It’s a date. I don’t have to be at work until 3PM Eastern time.

  147. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    And now we are part of some kind of comedy sitcom. ;)

  148. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Rosy,

    What are their plans for Beavan? He threw a nice game for you (to Montero) two days ago, I think it was.

  149. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
    YF,

    On March 11th, i will have 30 minutes less than you guys. YES! baseball is near!!
    ____
    Do you watch games on mlb-tv?

  150. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Noesi pitched 3 innings today, btw. How’d he look, Rosy?

  151. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    “Full disclosure, I have to cop to this in the sense that I can’t root for an ex-Yankee. Messed up, I know, but…”
    ///

    Everybody’s different. I know I can’t not root for him. Too many years invested already.

  152. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
    YF,

    On March 11th, i will have 30 minutes less than you guys. YES! baseball is near!!
    ____
    Do you watch games on mlb-tv?

    ======================

    Yes, so i’ll have to put the watch at 5:30 am :)

  153. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    The Yankees have a great team this year. You should talk about the plaers who are on the team not the one we had to give up.

    ————————

    If the Yankees had bats closer to the majors I doubt it would be this bad. The problem is they traded their only young impact bat that could have made an impact this yr and next. Romine isn’t an impact bat and Sanchez is yrs away.

  154. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    And now we are part of some kind of comedy sitcom.
    _______
    lol, not us. ;) But a little comic relief never hurt anyone… :)

  155. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Odds, deja vu all over again.

  156. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    luis, 5:30 am for you then; what is your caffeine of choice?

  157. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Ys Guy March 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    hahahaha the montero huggers will never get over losing their boy. it used to be annoying, now its just comical.
    ///
    Glad you found your sense of humor. You were getting kind of “Stoneburner”-esque. (That lunatic needs a new username: I like the pitcher too much to address that guy by his name, not that I address him).

  158. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    JAP

    I think it’s the lasting residue of the McGriff, Buhner and Doug Drabeck trades. It’s just too painful to watch kids that should have been lifelong Yankees flourish on other teams after misguided trades, although granted, they got a lot more back for Montero relative to the ones I listed.

    If the consensus reporting is to be believed, some people don’t want to acknowledge how close Mo, Posada, Bernie, and Pettitte came to being traded. Somehow I think that would have made even the most authoritarian (…) Yankee fans into whiners. ;)

  159. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
    luis, 5:30 am for you then; what is your caffeine of choice?

    ////

    Capuccino, courtesy of my nespresso machine :) …I’ll make it a double!

  160. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Luis, read what I quoted. You’re correcting the wrong person.

    I don’t know what the media did or didn’t do. I know what the yankees did or didn’t do.

    And we agree, they didn’t.

  161. Nick in SF March 8th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Anyone who isn’t flying to Japan to watch Montero’s Mariner debut in person… well, you can call yourself a fan of his but… yeah. Just say you like him a little. That’s all.

  162. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    # rm March 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    “I guess I must be. You’re clearly an expert in the field”

    Ouch. Such wit.

    Lighten up, dude. Seriously.

    Exactly lighten up you guys have got to let it go. The trade is done. The Yankees have a great team this year. You should talk about the plaers who are on the team not the one we had to give up.
    ///

    How about you talk about what you want to and let others decide for themselves. what’s discussion worthy.The high anxiety this causes people not interested in it is what’s comical. I scroll past 80 percent of what’s discussed in here. I’d never dream of telling people not to talk about what they’re talking about.

  163. rm March 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    “Do you mean Brandon Claussen? The pitcher who lasted like 3 years? Yeah, that’s a great comp for Jesus Montero.”

    Yep that’s the guy he had one great game as a Yankee and they sold high. Lots of excitable Yankee fans had already counted on him to win a few Cy Young awards. Not unlike some of the outragous predictions for Montero.

    I guess I’ve become part of the problem so I will stop posting about Montero.

  164. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Luis, a double sounds good; the stronger the better.

    Rich, I remember staying up, waiting in agony until 2AM (trade deadline 1999) because I so feared that Pettitte would be traded.

  165. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    Odds, deja vu all over again.

    ——————————–

    Yes it is lol. That’s what it’s all about. If the bats were closer losing Montero would sting but you would hear hey we still have player X and this guy too.

  166. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
    Luis, read what I quoted. You’re correcting the wrong person.

    I don’t know what the media did or didn’t do. I know what the yankees did or didn’t do.

    And we agree, they didn’t.

    ==================

    Oops!! sorry!, second time in the night. The other one i did correct it. Please accept my apoligies

  167. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Apologies…

  168. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    If the consensus reporting is to be believed, some people don’t want to acknowledge how close Mo, Posada, Bernie, and Pettitte came to being traded. Somehow I think that would have made even the most authoritarian (…) Yankee fans into whiners. ;)
    ////

    I don’t know, Rich. That stick up the ass fan doesn’t differentiate.

  169. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    yf

    Fortunately, a Pettitte for Adam Eaton didn’t become fodder for the next incarnation of a Larry David/Jerry Seinfeld sitcom episode.

  170. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Not unlike some of the outragous predictions for Montero.
    ////

    Outrageous? That he’ll be a great hitter in this game?

    Ok.

  171. Tar March 8th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    “Rich, I remember staying up, waiting in agony until 2AM (trade deadline 1999) because I so feared that Pettitte would be traded.”

    It’s posts like this why I think you are the best (even if you do suck at scouting :wink: )

    :D

    Goodnight Yankee fans.

  172. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Well guys, have a great night. I got an early start tomorrow. Today was a very good day in the blog, lots of interesting discussions. let’s keep it up!!

    Good night all!

  173. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Are we televised tomorrow? I think Manny’s in the mix.

  174. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    luis! Have a good one, my friend.

  175. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
    yf

    Fortunately, a Pettitte for Adam Eaton didn’t become fodder for the next incarnation of a Larry David/Jerry Seinfeld sitcom episode.

    =======================

    Maybe we will become famous!! ;)

  176. luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    JAP,

    See ya tomorrow my friend :)

    MONTERO!!!! there, i said it

  177. rm March 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    “How about you talk about what you want to and let others decide for themselves. what’s discussion worthy.The high anxiety this causes people not interested in it is what’s comical. I scroll past 80 percent of what’s discussed in here. I’d never dream of telling people not to talk about what they’re talking about.”

    Good Point I apologize post whatever you want.

  178. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    # luis March 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    JAP,

    See ya tomorrow my friend :)

    MONTERO!!!! there, i said it
    ///

    :D
    ‘night buddy.

  179. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    Yes, Pruf, televised by all 3, I believe. Manny should pitch, hopefully 2 innings; thus, hoping to figure out AAA pitching rotation soon. I want both Killer B’s to pitch in the first two games at LHV.

    Thanks, Tar. Have a good night! Y tu todos, Luis, a muy buenas noches!

  180. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Apology accepted.

  181. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Good night guys take care

  182. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    YF, I’m turning in, but yes, that would be convenient to knock off both B’s in one trip.

  183. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    ‘Night, Odds!

  184. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    Odds, have a good one. Manny B tomorrow! One they’re not likely to turn into a BP arm!

  185. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    ‘Night, Pruf. It’s a nice idea but I am afraid that they will both end up pitching in … Syracuse instead. Grrr!

  186. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Pruf, you don’t think that if they need a second (first?) LOOGY late in the season they won’t turn to ManBan? Guess again.

  187. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    # yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    ‘Night, Pruf. It’s a nice idea but I am afraid that they will both end up pitching in … Syracuse instead. Grrr!
    ///

    Yankeefem, Syracuse has some beautiful churches. Can’t stand religion, but I’m a sucker for an old church. You’re probably right, Warren, Phelps will get the nod, because of AAA seniority. Ah.

    Have a great night, YF.

  188. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Adam Eaton for Pettitte? Ugh.

  189. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    I work in an industry that has common dynamic as this – hardcore, long-time fans (often gping back to childhood) of entities/properties that go back further than the current shepherds/custodians of those properties.

    Many of the fans have been fans longer than the shepherds have been in control, which often results in the shepherds being regarded as temporary interlopers that the fan will eventually outlast. This breeds resentment.

    I’ve see this play out on a daily basis. After so many years, passive observation becomes unsatisfactory, and fandom becomes developing very strong, active ideas about how your favorite property should be managed.

    No pragmatic execution is EVER going to match or top this fan’s ideal version of how things can be, and this is when things go off the rails.

    Now I’m not saying fans don’t and shouldn’t have opinions and preferences, and express them, but the stratifying lines becomes when your fandom essentially becomes a perpetual bitterness and resentment towards the custodians.

    Its all about perspective. I’m seen loss of it the last 2 months in some.

    Being a Yankee fan has seemingly become a losing proposition for these people, a constant source of regret, longing and anger.

    I’d love someone to explain to me what the appeal of sports turning into a vehicle of serial negativity.

    Maybe it’s time to move on.

  190. rm March 8th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    “Not unlike some of the outragous predictions for Montero.
    ////

    Outrageous? That he’ll be a great hitter in this game?

    Ok.”

    I was referring to the Mantle etc comparisons

  191. CompassRosy March 9th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    J. AP ~

    Beavan is definitely competing for a spot in the starting rotation.

    Locks = Felix, Vargas
    Everyone else = Iwakuma, Millwood, Beavan, Noesi

    ***

    YF ~

    I love ST when I’m actually there (like I was last season) but hate it when I can’t because of all the daytime starts. And, can’t even listen, let alone watch, the “B” games. From all reports though, sounds like Noesi had a nice outing today.

  192. pat March 9th, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Yu gets a Media 101 lesson.

    http://kenrosenthal.yardbarker....._post=true

  193. Pat M. March 9th, 2012 at 2:03 am

    I missed the Lohud Comedy Hour { s } tonight…….So many with so much to say, little information or knowledge to share…….Humor is the outcome…..Emotional attachment compromises logic and objectivity…..Been preaching this now for some time now……….Roberto Duran has one thing in common with Jesus Montero,,,,,,,they both have hands of stone…..

  194. Nick in SF March 9th, 2012 at 2:33 am

    Big day at Staples, Pat M! Huskies out, Bruins out (sorry about that), but the Cal Bears advance. Looking forward to getting a little revenge against the Buffs tomorrow.

  195. Pat M. March 9th, 2012 at 2:56 am

    Nick in SF….Lost on UCLA ( -1 ) rebounded with Cal ( -4 )…Also picked up a few coins on Notre Dame but loss a few on UNLV……..Today I was close enough to get a real good look at the Cal cheer & pep squads,,,,,They need serious work, not to easy on the eyes Nick……..Cal is a Sweet 16 Club…..Big day tomorrow as I hope to make up for a sluggish college season….Only up a few benjis and this is after my big score with NC over Duke……Drank a few too many Johnny Walkers in the car on the way back……Sal the driver stocked up on Johnny W Black……Later Nick…

  196. randy l. March 9th, 2012 at 7:11 am

    “.Roberto Duran has one thing in common with Jesus Montero,,,,,,,they both have hands of stone…..”

    pat m-

    you forgot about that part about being a word champion and the best in the business :)

  197. MaineYankee March 9th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    randy l. March 9th, 2012 at 7:11 am
    “.Roberto Duran has one thing in common with Jesus Montero,,,,,,,they both have hands of stone…..”

    pat m-

    you forgot about that part about being a word champion and the best in the business

    ————————————————————————

    Did they both win a spelling bee? :D:

  198. Benny Blanco March 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    With regards to d rob, I’m preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.

  199. tomingeorgia March 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Everybody taking the day off?

  200. MaineYankee March 9th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    tomingeorgia March 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am
    Everybody taking the day off?

    —————————————————–

    I think they have switched to being Seattle and Tampa fans. :lol:

  201. tomingeorgia March 9th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Maine,
    You may have a point.

  202. blake March 9th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    we ready for another day of solving all the Yankees problems today?

  203. Erin March 9th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    blake March 9th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    we ready for another day of solving all the Yankees problems today?

    *****************

    It’s Friday. Can’t we take a long weekend? ;)

  204. MaineYankee March 9th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Erin March 9th, 2012 at 8:27 am
    blake March 9th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    we ready for another day of solving all the Yankees problems today?

    *****************

    It’s Friday. Can’t we take a long weekend?

    ————————————————-

    What you going to call it, whine free weekend?

  205. Erin March 9th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    New Post: Vazquez gets a start vs. Braves

    :arrow:

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