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Pregame notes: Robertson’s status unclear after foot injury

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 08, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Dave Robertson was moving boxes at his Tampa-area home last night when he stumbled down some stairs. Joe Girardi said it was more like he missed one step, not necessarily went tumbling down an entire flight. His right foot felt fine initially but it eventually became sore and Robertson went for x-rays, which were negative. He’s getting an MRI this morning and is currently wearing a walking boot as a precaution and for comfort.

“They were empty boxes,” Girardi said. “They weren’t even heavy boxes. I told to just kick them down the steps next time.”

There is some concern, obviously. Girardi said Robertson wasn’t walking very well this morning, and the official diagnosis so far is a mid-foot sprain. Girardi said there was no swelling, which he’s taking to be a good sign. Because he’s a reliever, Robertson could miss several days and not be at serious risk of missing the start of the season.

Until the MRI comes back, it’s really too early to know how much time Robertson will miss and whether Opening Day is at risk.

• Mariano Rivera threw batting practice this morning and said he expects to make his first game appearance on Sunday. “I’m ready to go,” he said.

• Joba Chamberlain will throw another bullpen tomorrow, and he’ll throw breaking balls for the first time on Sunday. Those breaking balls won’t come off a mound. He’ll throw them off flat ground. He said things are still going well with his rehab from Tommy John.

• Raul Ibanez has seen most of his time in left field, but he played a lot of right field when he was younger and the Yankees want him to be able to play both outfield corners. That’s why he’s in right field today, to get a few reps out there before the season. “I’m pretty confident that he’s going to play it fine,” Girardi said.

• Eduardo Nunez will take batting practice today, but Girardi still not sure he’ll be ready to play tomorrow. There doesn’t seem to be any significant concern about him, just taking things slowly and making sure he’s ready.

• George Kontos will throw a bullpen tomorrow. If that goes well, hell fall back into a regular spring routine and could face hitters within a few days.

• Cole Garner, who’s been shutdown with a sore hamstring, is making today’s trip to Dunedin but he’s not scheduled to play.

• Today’s sides: Graham Stoneburner, Brett Marshall, Phil Hughes and CC Sabathia.

• Tomorrow’s sides: Brad Meyers, Adam Warren, Joba Chamberlain, Cory Wade, Boone Logan, Clay Rapada and Hiroki Kuroda.

• Today’s available pitchers: Ivan Nova, Michael O’Connor, Dellin Betances, David Phelps, Cesar Cabral, Dan Burawa, Adam Miller, Ryan Pope, Chase Whitley and Juan Cedeno.

• Today’s second string: C J.R. Murphy, 1B Brandon Laird, 2B David Adams, SS Doug Bernier, 3B Jorge Vazquez, LF Zoilo Almonte, CF Melky Mesa, RF Chris Dickerson, DH Colin Curtis

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159 Responses to “Pregame notes: Robertson’s status unclear after foot injury”

  1. Mike Ri March 8th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Get better D-Rob !

  2. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    JF,

    It’s no different than saying:

    “the Mariners just traded away a young Nolan Ryan. That’s not hyperbole. Pineda is going to be one of the best several pitchers to ever play this game.”

    If I said that, you’d either refuse to dignify it with a response or you’d tear it to shreds.

  3. hardwired7 March 8th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    The MRI will just show what we already know: D-Rob is comprised of 100% awesomeness.

  4. MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    What I want to hear is mild foot sprain.

    Back within 1 week.

    Ready for the season on time.

    Please.

    :)

  5. Erin March 8th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    hardwired7 March 8th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    The MRI will just show what we already know: D-Rob is comprised of 100% awesomeness.

    ****************

    :D

  6. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    If I said that, you’d either refuse to dignify it with a response or you’d tear it to shreds.

    I’d debate it, might even tear it to shreds. Pineda doesn’t walk enough guys to be Nolan Ryan :) Is it ever allowed to suggest a player might be a ‘young albert pujols’? You said suggesting someone with a handful of at bats? But if he is already successful its not much of a prediction?

    I think you can debate the points, or not dignify it with a response, but you just called it outrageous and embarrassing without doing either.

  7. MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    HW-

    Just a slight correction.

    The awesome is distributed throughout D-Robs body but is mostly found in his right arm.

    ;)

  8. MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    And in his soul.

    :)

  9. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    “Any perceived future need the Yankees may or may not have for offense in the future pales in comparison to the Mariners need for ANY hitting right now.”

    The standards for the two franchises are kinda different…..the Ms are just trying to build a competitor……the Yanks are trying to win the WS every year……so yea the Seattle Mariners need a Montero bat more than the Yanks…..but that doesn’t mean the Yanks wont need one based on their expectations.

  10. Shame Spencer March 8th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    “They were empty boxes,” Girardi said. “They weren’t even heavy boxes. I told to just kick them down the steps next time.”

    ———————

    :shock:

  11. yankeefeminista March 8th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Ugh, DRob…

    Ibanez playing LF at NYS? :eek:

  12. MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Shame-

    As the type of Centaur you said I am I will not be taking D-Rob along anytime soon.

    That’s for sure.

    ;)

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    I’m not making a prediction. He’s got Pujols-like ability. Anyone who thinks that’s a laughable comparison may not really know the difference between a Montero and a Carlos Lee.

    I got similar heat for daring to say Cano would be a great hitter “how dare you compare him with Mattingly,” etc.

  14. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    “Does anyone think it’s a coincidence or dumb luck that Holliday, Freese, Pujols and Berkman got past Philadelphia’s staff? That Texas’ young lineup overcame Tampa’s tough staff, and then Detroit, which gave us such trouble, even though we pitched well?”

    Not dumb luck per se, just the shuffle of the cards.

    Consider the Yankees scored more runs and more runs per game than ANY of those teams you mentioned.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp

    St. Louis one a 1-0 Game 5 to advance.

    Yankees scored:

    10
    9
    5
    4
    3 runs in 5 games.

    St. Louis scored

    6
    5
    5
    2
    1

    Anyone who can tell me how they hit demonstratively better than the Yankees in the only round we can compare them is a smarter person than I.

    Texas was shut-out and held to 4 runs or less in 3 of their 4 games.

  15. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Self correct:

    Yankees scored:

    10
    9
    4
    3
    2 runs in 5 games.

  16. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    A-rod is sad that D-rob will no longer be able to take part in the great stamping in the glade under the moonlight. He dips his head and shakes his illustrious mane.

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    It’s got nothing to do with excess and everything to do with coming down to specific ABs against tough pitchers.

  18. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    btw – Berkman hit .167 in the Philly series. Holliday .222.

  19. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    JAP,

    I don’t think its unfair to suggest Montero’s absolute ceiling as a hitter is Pujols and perhaps his floor is a Carlos Lee type. Carlos Lee was pretty good for awhile there…..and while I think Montero has more ability than that and a higher ceiling than that…..you just never know with young players. ……there is a lot more to hitting in the big leagues than just the swing and physical tools….I think he’s got a chance to be really really special…..like best RH bat in baseball special….but he has to go do it still.

  20. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Pru,

    If you’re going to hold Montero to the expectation that he will be one of the top 5 position players in the last 100 years, you’re setting him up to fail.

    Huge difference between that statement and the analogies you give.

  21. Best To Ever Do It March 8th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Cashman told you: he had “a dream.” Translation: I can’t seem to maximize the pitching talent I keep drafting, so I’ll just hope someone else has done the dirty work, here.

    ——————————————-

    That’s what happened. He couldn’t secure a number 2 through free agency and Hughes and Joba haven’t lived up to his hype so he figured this was the best way to improve the rotation.

  22. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Blake,

    Pru made it very clear that the Yanks just traded away a young Pujols. He followed that by saying “that is not hyperbole.”

  23. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Montero has tons of ability but I think the odds say he actually will be closer to Carlos Lee as a hitter than Albert Pujols……and that’s not a knock on Montero who everyone should know I love…..its just the reality of how good Pujols is and how long the odds are that anyone will be THAT good.

  24. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Pujols had a 1.013 OPS his rookie season.

    Least we now have an established basis of comparison.

  25. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    …and I hope J.AP is right.

  26. Erin March 8th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    A-rod is sad that D-rob will no longer be able to take part in the great stamping in the glade under the moonlight. He dips his head and shakes his illustrious mane.

    ******************

    :lol:

  27. pat March 8th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    and Pujols had 1 RBI and scored 2 runs in the Philly series.

    Mariners
    #Mariners catcher Adam Moore suffers a fracture in the third metacarpal in his right wrist.

  28. MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    If Montero turns out to be another Pujols I’ll eat my hat.

    And cry a lot.

    :(

  29. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Pujols had a 1.013 OPS his rookie season.

    And he only spent 1 year in the minors, OPSing .950 at A+ then .284 .341 .481 .822 at aa and finally .214 .267 .286 .552 in a handful of AAA ABs. Pujols is pretty impressive.

    With what Montero did at AA & AAA I think can conclude he is going to be as good as 1.5 Pujols.

  30. Doc Iac March 8th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    yankees shoulda keeped montero and had him hit 1-9 and even pitch CG and go on zero days rest….

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Berkman had 4 RBI in that series, Freese 5 RBI.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    If Montero turns out to be another Pujols I’ll eat my hat.

    And cry a lot.
    ///

    Cue the Kleenex (or Seventh Generation, if you’re into non-toxic ;))

  33. MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Time to walk the Mops.

    BIAW.

  34. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    One thing the Yankees really missed the boat on is how marketable Montero is, as a handsome young, well spoken man.

    Trading for a frankenstein might end up being a mistake once the pitchforks and torches come out.

  35. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    “With what Montero did at AA & AAA I think can conclude he is going to be as good as 1.5 Pujols.”

    Here’s hoping.

    I for one would enjoy the dynamic of the entire baseball world utterly missing identifying the next Pujols/Arod type bat.

    Even if he never played a defensive inning in his career he’d be ranked higher (the highest) as a prospect if the baseball world thought he was that.

    J.AP is seeing something NO one else is, and I hope he is right.

  36. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    I don’t know if I hope JAP is right or not…..ill be rooting for Montero….but if he turns in to a 1 OPS bat and Pineda is anything short of a right handed CC Sabathia then that’ll be painful

  37. MTU March 8th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    JAP-

    I’ll cry me a River.

    Maybe Pineda will be Juan Marichal.

    Then I can at least stop sobbing.

    Later.

    ;)

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Montero has tons of ability but I think the odds say he actually will be closer to Carlos Lee as a hitter than Albert Pujols……and that’s not a knock on Montero who everyone should know I love…..its just the reality of how good Pujols is and how long the odds are that anyone will be THAT good.
    ///

    Montero has that kind of ability as a hitter. Lee is beneath him.

  39. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    “Berkman had 4 RBI in that series, Freese 5 RBI.”

    I thought RBI had been generally discredited as a credible stat around these parts?

  40. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 10:40 am

    I was hoping JAP was merely saying he thought Montero could potentially be of the caliber of hitter that Pujols is.

    I still don’t think that’s fair to Montero, but at least that’s a possibility.

    But to say it as if anything less is a disappointment. To say the Yanks did in fact trade away a player who is certain to be one of the all time greats, just isn’t fair in my opinion.

  41. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    I think we can all agree that it would be painful if JAP is right :)

  42. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    “Montero has that kind of ability as a hitter. Lee is beneath him.”

    I agree he has that kind of ability….but again you have to.go and do it and Carlos Lee had a pretty good career….made a lot of money ….if that’s Montero’s floor then that’s pretty darn good. Its kinda like saying Betances could turn out to be AJ Burnett…..which sounds bad at first…..but when you look at AJs career….that’s not a bad thing for any unproven prospect.

  43. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Why would anyone hope I’m right and at the same time enthusiastically support the move from a Yankee perspective.

    Whatever.

    Later.

  44. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Anyway, predictions for Bryce Harper?

  45. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    “Anyway, predictions for Bryce Harper?”

    Struggles if he’s in the big leagues

  46. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Anyway, predictions for Bryce Harper? .75 Pujols

  47. Best To Ever Do It March 8th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Anyway, predictions for Bryce Harper?

    ——————————-

    Becomes the next Mantle and joins the Yankees in his mid 20s :D

  48. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    predictions for Bryce Harper

    eta 2013, maybe cup of coffee( tea, orange juice) with D.C. if nationals want to bring him up. Possible Centaur lover… he and rod would make good stampede partners.

  49. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    You’ve got to hand it to some Yankees fans, they tell you Montero, after a handful of ML games is going to be as good as Albert Pujols. I’m sorry, but the fact remains, until Montero performs at a high level in the ML, for an extended period of time, he remains a prospect with a high upside, and nothing more.

    Do I love Montero, yes, was I glad to see the trade, no, but one has to stop thinking every player that ranks high in our system is going to be successful in the ML, and start comparing them to established stars that have earned the praise.

    I have strong doubts the “B’s” will be all that folks here believe they will be, and not in the near future. Control problems are still a major issue, and I don’t foresee either being ready before the start of 2013, or later.

    Now, that being said, I hope I’m wrong on all fronts, time will tell the story.

  50. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    blake,

    Betances is a groundball guy, not a FB guy. Betances will walk people when he’s off, but he’s not serving up BP when he misses location, other than the occasional curve that doesn’t break. AJ falls apart entirely, and then lasars are flying everywhere.

    Anyway, Montero is as complete as it gets for his age, so I don’t see him developing any bat habits for long. I marveled at him at the plate yesterday. He’s unreal. He’s going to break our hearts.

    See u later.

  51. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    “Becomes the next Mantle and joins the Yankees in his mid 20s”

    We can’t afford him.

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock March 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    *bad habits

  53. blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    “Betances is a groundball guy, not a FB guy. Betances will walk people when he’s off, but he’s not serving up BP when he misses location, other than the occasional curve that doesn’t break. AJ falls apart entirely, and then lasars are flying everywhere.”

    Yea I don’t mean the type of pitcher so much as the level of pitcher in that comparison. Have a good one JAP.

  54. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    “Why would anyone hope I’m right and at the same time enthusiastically support the move from a Yankee perspective.”

    Never “enthusiastically” supported the move. That’s ALWAYS been the nuance that escapes red-faced angry people.

    I can understand why (I think) the trade was made, and I think Pineda can wind up being a vast asset to the Yankees for years to come.

    If I’ve seemingly taken a position that the trade was “win” for the Yankees before either plays an inning for their new team, it’s largely because I’ve been reacted to the extreme hyperbole of those who have condemned it.

    I’m not obsessed with “winning” trades. i genuinely believe the best trades are trades where both parties get what they want, rather than “raping” the other side. I’m fully aware this is a foreign concept to many of my fellow fans.

    Jesus Montero IS a Mariner now. Nothing is ever going to change that. I judge trades on the day they are made and live with my assessment. Hindsight has little appeal to me.

    I wish nothing but the best for the guy. No reason not to, unless he faces the Yankees in games with postseason implications, at which point I hope he performs like s**t.

    But to expose MY character flaw (some have admitted rooting against him as theirs), the absolute ZOO this place would turn into if he takes off would be like a bug zapper to me.

    The entertainment value would be too rich to pass up.

  55. GGBG March 8th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    I used to comment here but got tired of the endless Joba bullpen / rotation arguments. Regardless of the thread, that argument was aired and it just turned me off to the point where I stopped coming here.

    I came back here after the Pineda / Montero trade and I see the same exact thing going on with that. Every single thread is argument about the trade. It’s as sure as the sunrise. It’s sickened me to the point where I can’t even read through the comments which is a shame because I know I’ll miss some good stuff but I just can’t stomach this argument every single day. I’ll be honest, I’m not sure how any of you do so.

    I’m sure I’ll have a bunch of people saying “don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out”. Let me assure you, I won’t.

  56. jacksquat March 8th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Montero vs “Montero-like” Pujols today, maybe. ;)

  57. jacksquat March 8th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    jacksquat March 8th, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Montero vs “Montero-like” Pujols today, maybe.

    oops, that was yesterday.

  58. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    GGBG -

    Don’t worry about the door, because your point is valid.

    Its as if some folks can’t think of anything new to discuss, or just can’t let go of their point of view, and act as if they repeat that point often enough, it will somehow change the situation, or make it less painful to accept.

    I’m all for a meaningful discussion on any subject, even an all day event, but there comes a time to let it go, and move on.

    Have a nice day, and hope to see you posting here again.

  59. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    GGBG,

    You’re right about that.

    Every good game that Montero has will result in a bad environment here. I don’t think it will ever go away either unless he somehow only turns into an average or slightly above average hitter (which most of us see as highly unlikely.)

    I would actually prefer to see the Joba debate at this point. Or Hughes. Or ridiculous trade proposals that net the Yankees an amazing return. Even the awful Pineda radar gun talk is more bearable than listening to the Montero talk at this point, IMO.

  60. Tom in N.J. March 8th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Buster Olney ? @Buster_ESPN Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    This is 1,078th day since MLB committee began studying Athletics/San Jose sit., or 776 days longer than Warren Commission study/report.

  61. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Tom in NJ -

    With that long of a study, perhaps they’ll come to a conclusion as to who or what “Killed” baseball in Oakland.

  62. Shame Spencer March 8th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    One thing the Yankees really missed the boat on is how marketable Montero is, as a handsome young, well spoken man.
    ——————-

    Yeah… I was ready to start swooning over him :(

    Thank god we still have Robbie’s smile. I swear to god, that guy always looks like he’s having the time of his life. I will never forget one game a couple of seasons ago when a player tripped and Robbie had to hide his face in his mitt because he was laughing so hard.

  63. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    I for one sure wish Jose Molina was still our BU catcher, now he’s the #1 C with the Rays, go figure.

  64. CompassRosy March 8th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    :::: Desperately.

    Like historically desperately. :::::

    From desperate to decent to dynasty :-)

    Kinda has a nice ring to it.
    I’m nothing if not optimistic, given the abundance of young talent in the M’s system, at all levels, including the parent club (where they have the third youngest roster in the majors, if I not mistaken).

    Not going happen tomorrow or this season or maybe even In 2013 but, progress will be made and patience will payoff. Hopefully, in the form of the emergence of a strong young core who have grown and matured together on the mound, at the plate and in the field.

  65. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    “One thing the Yankees really missed the boat on is how marketable Montero is, as a handsome young, well spoken man.”

    ——

    I’ll let someone like Trisha be the judge of that. Was she ready to replace Cervelli with Jesus?

    (I guess hitting 30HR would give the guy a leg up :) )

  66. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    I for one sure wish Jose Molina was still our BU catcher, now he’s the #1 C with the Rays, go figure.
    ——
    I think Jaso is in seattle now. Olivo and Jaso, that’s not a bad catching tandem.

  67. randy l. March 8th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    “I would actually prefer to see the Joba debate at this point. Or Hughes. Or ridiculous trade proposals that net the Yankees an amazing return. Even the awful Pineda radar gun talk is more bearable than listening to the Montero talk at this point, IMO.”

    bd-

    had cashman sat on the winning hand he had, there would be no controversy.

    cashman really couldn’t lose in keeping montero. signing kuroda gave the yankees enough depth in pitching.

    cashman put himself in a position where he has a very high chance of losing the hand.

    that’s what’s alarming about this trade.

    yes , he may get lucky and still win the hand.

    do we really want a gm who needs to be lucky when he makes a trade?

    what’s the next bad trade he makes?

    will he need luck again to save his butt ?

  68. Erin March 8th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Shame Spencer March 8th, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Thank god we still have Robbie?s smile.

    ****************

    Yeah baby!! :)

  69. Tom in N.J. March 8th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    The Athletics are a strange franchise. They have won the third most World Series rings, 9, but they cannot find stability.

  70. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Cashmoney -

    I agree, that’s the reason I see Montero getting little time behind the plate, and primarily being used as a DH.

    It appears all aroung baseball we are seeing an influx of some great young players, which is good for the game.

  71. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    The Athletics are a strange franchise. They have won the third most World Series rings, 9, but they cannot find stability.

    The league is keeping them down. The giants petty desire to keep them from San Jose is crippling them.

  72. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:16 am

    And the beat goes on ………………………………………

  73. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    “The league is keeping them down. The giants petty desire to keep them from San Jose is crippling them.”

    Sounds like a regional disadvantage… ;-)

  74. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    AL
    I general idea i got from reading some of the Seattle media and team tidbits is that they see him as a bat, rest gravy. Frankly, that’s how i look at Montero as well.

  75. Tom in N.J. March 8th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    In an alternate universe, the Yankees main rival is the Philadelphia Athletics.

  76. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    “Becomes the next Mantle and joins the Yankees in his mid 20s”

    We can’t afford him.

    ———–

    They better find a way to come up with the money

  77. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    How far is it from San Jose to San Fran?

    The Giants aren’t going to lose their fans to Oakland, if they were, they’d lose them to Oakland now.

    If the Yankees and Mets can do it in NY, the Giants can survive Oakland in San Jose. Doesn’t Oakland have any rights in that area?

    Got to go, catch y’all later.

  78. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am

    JF, Will Darvish be qualified as rookie? I forgot how MLB regards NPB playing time.

  79. Chip March 8th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    blake March 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    “Any perceived future need the Yankees may or may not have for offense in the future pales in comparison to the Mariners need for ANY hitting right now.”

    The standards for the two franchises are kinda different…..the Ms are just trying to build a competitor……the Yanks are trying to win the WS every year……so yea the Seattle Mariners need a Montero bat more than the Yanks…..but that doesn’t mean the Yanks wont need one based on their expectations.
    ———————–

    Blake,

    I think it’s also based on perceptions. Yankees believe that with their park they’ll have an easier time finding and/or cultivating good hitting than good pitching.

    On the other hand, the Mariners have been looking for power hitters since A-Rod, Jr and Edgar left. They tried the FA route with horrible results (Sexson and Beltre) and had to overpay both guys because sluggers don’t want to hit in a park that huge.

  80. JCPD March 8th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    And the beat goes on ………………………………………

    ————————————

    Like clockwork

  81. Chip March 8th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    I for one sure wish Jose Molina was still our BU catcher, now he’s the #1 C with the Rays, go figure.
    ————–

    I think that says more about the Rays inability to find a good catcher than it does about Jose Molina’s abilities.

  82. pat March 8th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    eboland11
    Robertson, foot in a boot, whisked by some reporters in golf cart. Smiled and said “what’s up fellas?” as he went past.

  83. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    “The league is keeping them down. The giants petty desire to keep them from San Jose is crippling them.”

    I don’t really blame the Giants…..the As terrible ballpark and overall suckiness as a franchise isn’t their problem….why should they give away part of their territory to help them out? Mlb should intervene or the As should move to a new market entirely.

  84. Erin March 8th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    eboland11 Robertson, foot in a boot, whisked by some reporters in golf cart. Smiled and said “what’s up fellas?” as he went past.

  85. munson15 March 8th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Man, this Montero thing is getting tiresome. He’s gone. End of story.

  86. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “……the Yanks are trying to win the WS every year……”

    It’s a fool’s errand though, and they need to recognize that because it’s counterproductive to the goal of winning as many WS as possible over a five or ten year timeframe.

  87. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    “JF, Will Darvish be qualified as rookie? I forgot how MLB regards NPB playing time.”

    Yes but the voters will pick Angel Berroa instead.

  88. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Rich,

    Sure…but my point was that the Mariners and Yankees have different standards of success.

  89. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    “It’s a fool’s errand though, and they need to recognize that because it’s counterproductive to the goal of winning as many WS as possible over a five or ten year timeframe.”

    Something we agree on.

  90. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    blake

    True. I don’t think that justifies the trade, but I can’t disagree with that.

  91. Shame Spencer March 8th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    “Mlb should intervene or the As should move to a new market entirely.”

    Brooklyn anyone?? :D

    Nah, I know that’s crazy talk… I’d rather them play in Newark so I can have an awesomely named team in my backyard.

  92. BD (Boston Dave) March 8th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Rosy,

    Don’t you think, in that regard, the Ms would have been better suited trading Felix than Pineda…

    likely netting Montero, Baneulos?, Betances?, and the Ms keeping Campos…. plus freeing up big $$$ to use however they see fit.

    I guess if all of their young arms work out, they wouldn’t need to do it, but I wonder if they’d have been better off moving Felix and hoping the fans didn’t revolt :)

  93. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    I don’t really blame the Giants…..the As terrible ballpark and overall suckiness as a franchise isn’t their problem….why should they give away part of their territory to help them out? Mlb should intervene or the As should move to a new market entirely.

    They already share the market, and San Jose is farther away!

  94. Against All Odds March 8th, 2012 at 11:40 am

    munson15 March 8th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Man, this Montero thing is getting tiresome. He’s gone. End of story

    —————

    As long as Pineda is a Yankee the talk is going to go on for a while

  95. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    “They already share the market, and San Jose is farther away!”

    Yea but why should they help the As?

  96. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Lot of money in San Jose correct? Isn’t Google there? I can see why the Giants wouldn’t want to lose that piece.

  97. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    JCPD -

    Remember the old 33 1/3 records, when the needle got stuck, and the words just kept repeating over, and over, and over …………..

  98. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Lot of money in San Jose correct? Isn’t Google there? I can see why the Giants wouldn’t want to lose that piece.

    They don’t lose it. Its already shared territory.

  99. Chip March 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “……the Yanks are trying to win the WS every year……”

    It’s a fool’s errand though, and they need to recognize that because it’s counterproductive to the goal of winning as many WS as possible over a five or ten year timeframe.
    —————-

    You can’t know that trading Montero for Pineda will run counter to that goal either. Looking at the deal today you can’t know if – for example – the addition of Pineda will allow the Yankees to trade a pitcher for a Justin Upton a year from now. Who is to say that whatever Montero becomes he would have become that player in pinstripes?

    Cashman can only make best guesses when making deals and based on prior evidence, the Yankees have had an easier time finding solid hitting than solid pitching; so Montero becomes replaceable.

  100. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Yea but why should they help the As?

    It should not even be their right to deny the A’s.

  101. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    “Of the four two-team markets in MLB, only the Giants and A’s do not share the exact same geographic boundaries. MLB-recorded minutes clearly indicate that the Giants were granted Santa Clara, subject to relocating to the city of Santa Clara. The granting of Santa Clara to the Giants
    was by agreement with the A’s late owner Walter Haas, who approved the request without compensation. The Giants we unable to obtain a vote to move and the return of Santa Clara to its original status was not formally accomplished.

    “We are not seeking a move that seeks to alter or in any manner disturb MLB territorial rights. We simply seek an approval to create a new venue that our organization and MLB fully recognizes is needed to eliminate our dependence on revenue sharing, to offer our fans and players a modern ballpark, to move over 35 miles further away from the Giants’ great venue and to establish an exciting competition between the Giants and A’s.

    “We are hopeful that the Commissioner, the committee appointed by the Commissioner, and a vote of the MLB ownership, will enable us to join the fine array of modern and fun baseball parks that are now commonplace in Major League Baseball.”

    The giants actually have MORE territory than the A’s despite the fact that they should share the area.

  102. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    “They don’t lose it. Its already shared territory.”

    They don’t share luxury boxes and ticket sales and stuff like that do they? What if there are companies in San Jose that currently buy luxury sweets with the Giants…..who would switch to the San Jose As if they came there? Again….why should the Giants help the As unless they have to?

  103. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Chip

    I’m really not taking a position in that regard, other than the trade in and of itself doesn’t necessarily support the idea that they are trying to win the WS every single year.

    When they get Justin Upton, I will reassess though!!!!

    As for Cashman, he admits to a bias that I disagree with, that pitching holds the keys to the kingdom.

  104. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    They don’t share luxury boxes and ticket sales and stuff like that do they? What if there are companies in San Jose that currently buy luxury sweets with the Giants…..who would switch to the San Jose As if they came there? Again….why should the Giants help the As unless they have to?

    They don’t have to help the A’s, they could simply stop fing them.

  105. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    “It should not even be their right to deny the A’s”

    Why not? Its any businesses’s right to try and protect their market from competition

  106. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    If I were the Giants aid be trying to run the As out of California all together …

  107. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    San Jose is the 3rd largest city in CA. and the home to Silicon Valley. Lots of money there, and the NHL team San Jose Sharks play there. A big industrial city of nearly 1 million. San Fran has 7.5 million to draw from, so they might be better off if Oakland moves. MLB needs to grow a pair, and make a decision, in favor of Oakland.

  108. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Why not? Its any businesses’s right to try and protect their market from competition

    I don’t buy the luxury box theory. Oakland and SF are really close, San Jose is equidistant. What they MIGHT lose from San Jose could be gained from Oakland. McDonalds or some other company can’t stop a competitor from building a store/restaurant/business nearby. The only thing stopping the A’s is the petty owner politics of the MLB, which is caused by the incredibly dumb territorial rights that have no place in the modern entertainment industry with the way technology has progressed for delivering content.

    The Giants have already been the beneficiary of these rules above and beyond anyone else in a ‘shared market’.

    Just like it was stupid for the Mets to decline the Yankees the right to house their AAA team in Rochester, it is stupid for the Giants to block the A’s from San Jose, a move that would place them geographically FARTHER than they are now.

  109. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    blake -

    Oakland is already in the San Fran market place now, what’s the big deal if they move to San Jose, futher away than they are now????

  110. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Blake has a good point about corporate sponsorships and things like luxury boxes. Luxury boxes aren’t about hardcore fandom, they’re about territory and what’s the hot ticket.

    The A’s and Giants may “share” that territory now, but if someone were to move into the backyard, that changes the equation.

  111. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    The A’s and Giants may “share” that territory now, but if someone were to move into the backyard, that changes the equation.

    The A’s are trying to move OUT of the backyard.

  112. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    The move to San Jose comes with no adjustment to their shared territory, which is currently uneven with San Fran having MORE than Oakland.

  113. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Because there is moreimportant money in San Jose than Oakland…..and they’d have a new stadium in San Jose…..why do you think the As want to actually move to San Jose?

  114. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    “The A’s are trying to move OUT of the backyard.”

    We’re talking different backyards.

    So why doesn’t the Giants want the A’s to move out of their backyard?

  115. Warning Track Power March 8th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Someone needs to confirm that Robertson has thrown away his “old school socks”
    as of this morning?
    Making that change was bad luck.

  116. blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    The As are trying to move to an area with more money…..the Giants are trying to keep them out of that area.

    If you’re the Giants wouldn’t you rather have the As in Oakland in a crappy ballpark than in San Jose in a brand new one?

  117. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    So why doesn’t the Giants want the A’s to move out of their backyard?

    Because they’d prefer the A’s move out of the state altogether, which is the alternative.

  118. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    the Yankees have had an easier time finding solid hitting than solid pitching; so Montero becomes replaceable.
    ——–
    I think cash is hoping that he is getting good to great pitching by trading away Montero. good to great pitching or hitting (cheap and young) are never that easily replace or found. I think the myriad of debates seems to come down to Montero’s potential vs Pineda’s potential to become great. But only time will tell the tale on that one. but cashman is wrong about one thing imo,that is, he is not dealing in the area of strength or excess when you trade a bat like Montero simply because Yanks has no such potential bat at a higher lvl. that said, we can readily move on to another subject matter until such time arrives.

  119. Warning Track Power March 8th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:54 am

    The A’s and Giants may “share” that territory now, but if someone were to move into the backyard, that changes the equation.

    The A’s are trying to move OUT of the backyard.
    **********************************************************************
    In order for the A’s to call San Jose their new home, the Giants organization will need to be paid a VERY LARGE SUM of $$ for the trouble.
    Bribery is what they call this sort of situation.

    Bud Selig is afraid to get his hands dirty. He has kept his distance, in order to save face.

  120. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    completely OT
    anyone is looking forward to see Ridley Scott’s Prometheus film?

  121. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    blake March 8th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Because there is moreimportant money in San Jose than Oakland…..and they’d have a new stadium in San Jose…..why do you think the As want to actually move to San Jose?

    ************************************************************
    San Jose is willing to build a new modern stadium for the A’s, Oakland is not. Reason enough?

    I believe NL fans do not support AL teams, and AL fans do not support NL teams, thus the Mets and Yanks play as close as they do, and can both do well. The product on the field has alot to do with attendence.
    One only has to look at the Rays, losy stadium, hard to get to, low attendence. Move them to a better area, and they’ll draw 3-4 milloin.

  122. Erin March 8th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    eboland11 Robertson: “I don’t feel it’s something that will set me back for a long time.”

    DanBarbarisi David Robertson seemed embarassed – but not too worried- about his foot sprain. “Just clumsy. Mo already wore me out about it.”

    JackCurryYES Girardi said Robertson could miss up to 2 weeks and still be ready for opener. Said MRI results will be sent to Dr Ahmad, team doc, in NY

  123. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    anyone is looking forward to see Ridley Scott’s Prometheus film?

    Re-watching the original trilogy on blu-ray in anticipation

  124. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    “San Jose is willing to build a new modern stadium for the A’s, Oakland is not. Reason enough?”

    Sure…reason enough to.move….also reason enough for the Giants to want to prevent it and keep them where they are.

  125. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    The same reasons the As want out of Oakland are probably the same reasons their competitor wants them to stay there.

  126. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Sounds like Drob shouldnt miss much if any of the season….hopefully he can get back and get some ST work in before opening day though.

  127. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    The same reasons the As want out of Oakland are probably the same reasons their competitor wants them to stay there.

    And it shouldn’t be their decision to make.

  128. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    same here JF, according to him it’s not really billed as prequel but I just want to know who the dude on the chair was.

  129. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    “And it shouldn’t be their decision to make.”

    That’s fine…but you can’t fault them for trying to prevent it I don’t think.

  130. Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    same here JF, according to him it’s not really billed as prequel but I just want to know who the dude on the chair was.

    Not billed as a prequel yet takes place in the same universe at a time before the other movies :twisted: The previews so far are pretty hype.

    https://www.weylandindustries.com/

  131. CompassRosy March 8th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    BD ~

    “Don’t you think, in that regard, the Ms would have been better suited trading Felix than Pineda…”

    ~

    Nope. For just the reasons you cited yourself. They have plenty of talented young arms of their own but, you can’t be ALL young. Felix is a great mentor and has a ton of intangible value on top of his over-the-top tangible worth.

    As for money…
    the M’s are definitely not lacking in that regard (granted, they haven’t always spent it wisely). And, hopefully, their financial position stands to get an extra boost in 2015 when they are able to invoke the opt out clause of their current TV deal. A renegotiation of that or, better yet, a creation of their own RSN, would substantially increase their ability to keep up with the Joneses of the West.

  132. m March 8th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    I’m in the SF/Oakland market and I’m over 3000 miles away. I get screwed by both teams with blackouts. :mad:

    The Yankees really need a “boxes & knives” clause.

    If DRob is not back for the season I see them sliding back soriano into the setup role, where he would stay unless he shows that it’s too much for him.

  133. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    “I believe NL fans do not support AL teams, and AL fans do not support NL teams, thus the Mets and Yanks play as close as they do, and can both do well.”

    As Stuckey said….I don’t think its about fans so much as indifferent corporate money. The Giants don’t want Google giving money to the San Jose As instead of them….

  134. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    blake -

    What area rights does Oakland have? Why do the Giants have the right to stop a team, already in their area from moving further away?

    The situation is what it is because there is no leadership come from the commissioner’s office, which is of no surprise.

    I can’t see Giants fans going to A’s game, and stop seeing their team play, no way. That would be like Yankees fans switching to the Mets because the Yankees moved to New Jersey, please.

  135. BIG AL March 8th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Time to cut the lawn, later y’all.

  136. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    “What area rights does Oakland have? Why do the Giants have the right to stop a team, already in their area from moving further away?”

    Whether they should have the right to is a different topic……all Im saying is that I can see why the Giants would want to prevent the As from moving from their crappy stadium in Oakland……to a brand new one in corporate rich San Jose. Its not about geography…..its about money and the As moving to an area the Giants want to keep money coming from I would guess.

  137. DONNYBROOK March 8th, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Gotta hope Ridley doesn’t go nuts with the CGI. Technology run amok.

  138. jacksquat March 8th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Jerkface March 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Lot of money in San Jose correct? Isn’t Google there? I can see why the Giants wouldn’t want to lose that piece.

    They don’t lose it. Its already shared territory.

    Are you familiar with the area? I lived in the San Jose area for a while. The majority of baseball fans around there are Giants fans. That might change for quite a few people if a team moves right into San Jose in a nice, new ballpark.

  139. Erin March 8th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    AnthonyMcCarron “If it’s just a sprain, I’m not really that concerned. I’m hoping it can just be a week or so.” Robertson on his foot injury

  140. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    The San José area is home to the largest concentration of technology expertise in the world–more than 6,600 technology companies employing more than 254,000 people.

    http://www.sanjoseca.gov/about.asp

    That’s 6,600 technology companies that could be giving money to the Giants now……

  141. Cashmoney March 8th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Gotta hope Ridley doesn’t go nuts with the CGI. Technology run amok.
    —-
    I think Ridley has always favored models over CGI. He definitely has an eye for cinematography and set though.

  142. DONNYBROOK March 8th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Typical Bud, allowing the move\territorial rights concerning Oakland\SF to drag on. He even drug out the Theo compensation decision. He missed his calling. Shoulda been manning a window at the DMV.

  143. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    I don’t think Jaws would have been nearly as scary if the shark had been computer generated…..something about CGI monsters just takes the edge off or something…..

  144. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    “He even drug out the Theo compensation decision.”

    The teams did that…..they settled it themselves and the reason it took so long was because the Red Sox were dummies and let him go without receiving compensation first.

  145. DONNYBROOK March 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    - CASH -
    I’m a big fan of “Blade Runner”, but AMC kills that movie with the endless commercials. Glad they went HD, but almost every movie they run now runs a minimum 3 hrs due to the endless shilling. We need Turner Classic to go HD, and start showing stuff like “Blade Runner” commercial free. I would pay for Turner Classic alone, if it were HD\commercial free, and was showing relatively current flicks like “Blade Runner”.

  146. DONNYBROOK March 8th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    - Blake -
    I thought the teams let the Commish make the choice when they couldn’t. Then Bud proceded to dance the same dance they did.

  147. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    “I thought the teams let the Commish make the choice when they couldn’t. Then Bud proceded to dance the same dance they did.”

    I don’t think MLB ever intervened….they ironed it out themselves.

  148. Warning Track Power March 8th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    DONNYBROOK March 8th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    - Blake -
    I thought the teams let the Commish make the choice when they couldn’t. Then Bud proceded to dance the same dance they did.
    ***********************************************************************
    Let’s all be clear on 1 thing.
    Bud only cares about himself, his friends and $$$
    Bud could care less about the game. His track record has proven so and if anybody does not believe me, just look at the Braun situation.
    Why Bud chooses to hide behind the lawyers shows just how much he cares!!!

  149. Chip March 8th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Chip

    I’m really not taking a position in that regard, other than the trade in and of itself doesn’t necessarily support the idea that they are trying to win the WS every single year.

    When they get Justin Upton, I will reassess though!!!!

    As for Cashman, he admits to a bias that I disagree with, that pitching holds the keys to the kingdom.
    ———————

    In fairness I think you’re taking Cashman’s statement out of context. I don’t believe he means that pitching is more vital than hitting – just that young pitching allows you the freedom to do a lot of different things due to how treasured a commodity it is around the league.

    Take the Mariners for example – they had a lot of depth in terms of young pitchers which allowed them to trade one of their top end young pitchers for a top end slugger prospect. If they didn’t have Hultzen and Walker they wouldn’t have been able to get Montero because they wouldn’t have been able to trade Pineda. The Tigers were able to pay for Prince Fielder because they have very good young pitching (Scherzer, Porcello, Fister and Turner) all cost controlled for a long time to go with Verlander – meaning that they don’t have to worry about spending their money on Cole Hamels or Matt Cain – they can spend it in other areas.

    I think Brian understands that you need balance to win, but if MLB is determined to take away the financial advantage – then you need another way to acquire what you need going forward – and young pitchers are often that commodity.

  150. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    “Bud could care less about the game. His track record has proven so and if anybody does not believe me, just look at the Braun situation.”

    Didn’t MLB vehemently disagree with the Braun ruling? Selig had nothing to do with that..

  151. Ys Guy March 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    i was busy working all morning. so how did we work out blaming robertson’s injury on the evil duo (cash and girardi)?

  152. blake March 8th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Does anyone think baseball is in worse shape than it was before Selig took over? I don’t think Bud is perfect and he’s done some boneheaded things at times (the all star game) but I think people have too easily forgotten the cookie cutter and empty stadiums that we’re far too common in the 80s and early 90s……pre-Bud.

  153. Ys Guy March 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    ““Bud could care less about the game. His track record has proven so and if anybody does not believe me, just look at the Braun situation.”

    Didn’t MLB vehemently disagree with the Braun ruling? Selig had nothing to do with that..”
    ==========================================
    revenues are up sevenfold under buds leadership. SEVENFOLD! hate him all you want, he has been GREAT for the buisness of baseball.

  154. dogface March 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Does anyone think baseball is in worse shape than it was before Selig took over?

    =========================================

    No.

  155. UnKnown March 8th, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Even if DRob misses a few weeks to start the season, I hope NY doesn’t use it as a reason to put Hughes in the pen. We need to figure out if he can start once and for all..

  156. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    “And it shouldn’t be their decision to make.”

    MLB is an association. A team has to agree to their constitution before joining it, or abide by whatever amendments to their constitution that are made according to their bylaws.

    I’m always reluctant to say an association that has crafted their own set of rules should live by mine.

  157. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    I think I shot my load a little early buying the new MLB app.

    I’m jonesing for a Sterling fix.

  158. stuckey March 8th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Which by the way is why I haven’t advocated an overall to the financial system that allows vast payroll inequity.

    Tampa joined the league knowing the situation, I’m happy to see them live by it. If the 30 team association agrees to change the system, that’s another story.

    But San Francisco and Oakland are exercising and living by the rules they are members of the association have crafted and ratified.

    Good enough for me.

    I’m reasonably sure they exist for a reason.

  159. Duh Innings March 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Jay Buhner and Mike Lowell were and still are the only Yankee everyday player prospects who became stars after being traded from the Yankees since the Buhner trade.

    Two players.

    Recent history shows the Yanks will not be burnt by trading Montero.

    The Traded Away Yankees Team Since The Buhner Trade:

    C – Dioner Navarro
    1B – J.T. Snow
    2B – Alfonso Soriano
    3B – Mike Lowell (the only player on this team who grabbed a World Series rng after being a Yankee)
    SS – Cristian Guzman
    OF – Melky Cabrera, Austin Jackson, Juan Rivera
    DH – Nick Johnson

    None of those trades have burned the Yanks and spare me 2003. Happenstance, besides that the Yanks won five World Series in seven tries after Lowell was traded. Lowell has three World Series rings only because he was lucky enough to get called up for a cup of coffee in 1998. He has two real WS rings as far as I’m concerned and he lucked out with 2003 along with 1998.

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