Pregame notes: Robertson optimistic while awaiting results
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 09, 2012 
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Joe Girardi said yesterday that there was a “cause for concern” in yesterday’s MRI on Dave Robertson’s injured foot. This morning, Robertson himself painted a much more optimistic picture.
“The first MRI, they said there wasn’t really anything really wrong,” Robertson said. “Just had some questionable things and they just wanted to make sure. They said it looked fine, but let’s just go ahead and check it out again and make sure nothing’s wrong.”
Robertson went back to the hospital for a second round of tests, and he’s still awaiting those results. Today he shuffled into the clubhouse wearing a walking boot and using crutches. The crutches seemed more for stability than anything. He wasn’t putting all of his weight on them, just sort of using them to carry a little bit of his weight as he walked fairly close to normal (as close as he could in a protective boot).
Optimism aside, Girardi sounded legitimately concerned yesterday. At this point, it’s hard to know what to expect while the Yankees wait for a foot specialist to give his diagnosis.
“After hearing that they didn’t see anything in the first round, I’m feeling better today,” Robertsons aid. “I’m hoping it’s something that’s going to pass in a week or so and I’ll be right back out there.”
• Robertson on having to address the injury: “It’s embarrassing. I don’t even want to have to come and talk to you guys about it. I’d rather be like, I tripped over a chair in the clubhouse or something than tell you I fell down the stairs at my house. And not like a full flight of stairs, just one stair.”
• Truth be told, Robertson’s injury wasn’t nearly the most unusual in baseball yesterday. David Price hurt himself while toweling off between innings, and Robertson was happy to hear he wasn’t the only one talking about an awkward injury. “Yes,” Robertson said, giving a little fist pump. “That’s good news right there. That’s the best news I’ve heard.”*
• For whatever reason, Eduardo Nunez isn’t listed for batting practice today. I didn’t see Nunez in the clubhouse and didn’t have a chance to ask Joe Girardi about it before the clubhouse closed for a team meeting. Could be that he’s just going to take BP inside rather than out on the field with everyone else, but it seemed unusual considering he was making progress from that hand injury.
• Brad Meyers, George Kontos, Adam Warren, Joba Chamberlain, Cory Wade, Boone Logan, Clay Rapada and Hiroki Kuroda all have sides today. Dellin Betances, David Phelps and Ivan Nova are throwing sides tomorrow.
• J.R. Murphy is planning to get the vast majority of his time at catcher this season, but today he’s working out at third base during fielding drills. The Yankees like his bat and have given him a look at the four corners, adding some versatility to the young catcher. For whatever it’s worth, Brett Gardner will take fly balls in center field today. He said he hadn’t taken any balls in center field this spring before starting there yesterday, but center field always feels more natural for him anyway.
• Today’s available pitchers: Freddy Garcia, Rafael Soriano, Manny Banuelos, D.J. Mitchell, Juan Cedeno, Chase Whitley, Ryan Pope, Kevin Whelan, Dan Burawa, Adam Miller, Michael O’Connor and Cesar Cabral
• Today’s second string: C Gustavo Molina, 1B Jose Gil, 2B Corban Joseph, SS Doug Bernier, 3B Ramiro Pena, LF Cole Garner, CF Dewayne Wise, RF Colin Curtis, DH Zoilo Almonte
• Making the trip to Orlando tomorrow…
Pitchers: Dan Burawa, Cesar Cabral, Juan Cedeno, Brett Marshall, Michael O’Connor, Michael Pineda, Ryan Pope, Graham Stoneburner, Kevin Whelan, Chase Whitley
Catchers: Francisco Cervelli, Jose Gil, Kyle Higashioka, J.R. Murphy, Gary Sanchez
Infielders: David Adams, Doug Bernier, Bill Hall, Corban Joseph, Brandon Laird, Jayson Nix, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, Jorge Vazquez
Outfielders: Zoilo Almonte, Colin Curtis, Brett Gardner, Raul Ibanez, Andruw Jones, Justin Maxwell, Melky Mesa, Dewayne Wise
* Before any Rays fans get offended, Robertson was clearly kidding and talking strictly about being hurt in an embarrasing way. He quickly said something about not really wanting anyone else to be hurt, he just liked the idea that he wasn’t the only one talking about an unusual injury.
UPDATE, 10:07 a.m.: The Braves have both RHP Buddy Carlye and OF Jordan Parraz on this trip. Those two played in the Yankees system last year, with Carlyle getting a little bit of big league team.
BRAVES
Michael Bourn CF
Tyler Pastornicky SS
Matt Diaz RF
Freddie Freeman 1B
David Ross C
Christian Bethancourt DH
Drew Sutton 2B
Brandon Hicks 3B
Jose Costanza LF
RHP Julio Teheran
Associated Press photo
GB – I’d love to see what he’s got.. I wish they would let him back up Martin. I don’t dislike Cervelli by any stretch of the imagination but I think with him we already know what his ceiling is at this point and frankly the concussions scare me. The guy has been hit so many times in the head its not even funny… love his tenacious attitude, but again I think we already know what we’ve got with him and I’d like to see how Romine fairs with the big club.
I’d say Price’s accident with the towel is more embarassing than DRob’s with the stairs.
Tom in N.J. March 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
The dude who plays Mose Schrute, Dwight’s cousin, is Ken Tremendous of “Fire Joe Morgan” fame.
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I knew I liked that guy…
And Erin, totally agree on Erin/Andy. I really liked the idea at the start but then when he suddenly decided to stop pursuing her I lost the thread of the story line.
Morning all
Romine’s on the 40 and his arbitration clock is already ticking because of his September call-up. I think that if there’s an injury to Martin they won’t hesitate to recall him from wherever he winds up.
Mike and Mike spent a good portion of the show this morning making fun of Price.
Creed Bratton:
Bratton’s story gets better when you find out he wasn’t born Creed Bratton at all. He was actually born William Charles Schneider and changed his name after waking up from a night of drinking ouzo and finding a scrap of paper with the name “Creed Bratton” on it. And several other names scratched-off. For all we know, the scratched off names were the previous night’s murder victims. But Bratton’s best rock star story comes when he describes taking acid for the first time:
My hands started melting, and I heard someone, a disembodied bass voice, saying “Play, play.” And I saw notes, like cartoon notes, drifting from staff paper through the air until they fell to the floor and broke into pieces.
http://www.cracked.com/article.....z1odG56iau
Shame-I was actually never a fan of that pairing. I don’t think they have any chemistry at all. I like them both individually, but together it just doesn’t work for me. I think they were trying way too hard to build another Jim/Pam, Michael/Holly relationship.
Romine’s on the 40 and his arbitration clock is already ticking because of his September call-up. I think that if there’s an injury to Martin they won’t hesitate to recall him from wherever he winds up
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He doesn’t accrue service time while optioned, so if they dont think he is ready they can leave him down for 3 more seasons as he has all his options left. He only got .018 service time.
Catcher/3B cross training seems something the Yankees encourage. Because both are reaction positions?
DavidWaldstein It was household accident night Wed. Robertson hurt foot & Nick Swisher cut right index finger on photo frame but is is fine & playing today
Jerkface March 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Romine’s on the 40 and his arbitration clock is already ticking because of his September call-up. I think that if there’s an injury to Martin they won’t hesitate to recall him from wherever he winds up
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He doesn’t accrue service time while optioned, so if they dont think he is ready they can leave him down for 3 more seasons as he has all his options left. He only got .018 service time.
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Fair enough. I still think they will be fine calling him up if there’s an injury to Martin – maybe not Cervelli though – they’ll want Romine to work if he’s here.
JF-
Are you sure of that ?
I thought it was .017999.
Cashmoney March 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Morning all
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Morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joiG0M24W-Q
Here is a japanese band I saw live in concert, who covered Creed Bratton’s song live for today. Which I enjoy a lot, its a good song!
Uh oh.
Looks like Freddy has been loaning out his knife.
Fair enough. I still think they will be fine calling him up if there’s an injury to Martin – maybe not Cervelli though – they’ll want Romine to work if he’s here.
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He is the only other catcher on the 40 man, so yea I think he’d get the call up. They don’t have to rush though if they do not want too.
so is cashman back in camp after taking much of the week off in new york possibly to give grand jury testimony ?
i don’t know, maybe all his work is done and the team is all set.
i guess other people can supervise things whiles he’s busy.
i would think a gm would want to be in spring training just to you know , watch.
as yogi said, “you can learn a lot by watching”.
Is the game on TV today? MLB.TV?
“so is cashman back in camp after taking much of the week off in new york possibly to give grand jury testimony ?”
maybe he was in Arizona scouting that new up and coming bat the Mariners have.
Face it Montero Huggers, Pineda has been the Best Yankee SP thus far. Girardi’s comments yesterday concerning Gardner replacing Jeet as the leadoff hitter, was an attempt to cushion the blow to the Yankee Faithful. Girardi aint just a talker. Gonna happen shortly.
i would think a gm would want to be in spring training just to you know , watch.
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We all know the first week of spring training is super important. I don’t know why Cashman has to pay scouts at all, since he is supposed to do all the watching himself 24/7.
I kinda want to see Teheran throw….I haven’t seen him pitch since the Futures game and it seems like folks are kinda down on him….even before the 6 homer outing this spring.
Come on people, when Michael left, it was Jump-The-Shark time.
“I don’t know why Cashman has to pay scouts at all, since he is supposed to do all the watching himself 24/7.”
scouts are watching pineda work on his change up that cashman says is necessary to make his trade a successful one?
don’t scouts look at other teams players?
Koufax coaching in Met Camp??? The Dodger organization is going down in flames.
scouts are watching pineda work on his change up that cashman says is necessary to make his trade a successful one?
don’t scouts look at other teams players?
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You being willfully ignorant of internal scouting? You don’t think Rothschild and Girardi are the ones paying attention to that? Newman? Contreras? Anyone else?
“maybe he was in Arizona scouting that new up and coming bat the Mariners have.”
nope, but thanks for asking:
“By lunchtime, the baseball bigwig — who has been noticeably absent this week from his team’s spring training in Tampa — had ducked out a back door of the courthouse, according to several sources.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....z1odLwXvsY
“You being willfully ignorant of internal scouting?”
who are the internal scouts ? names are always welcome.
I love when randy stirs up trouble
“Come on people, when Michael left, it was Jump-The-Shark time.”
eh…I think it’s still funny but there doesn’t seem to be an overlying storyline that most all shows except Seinfeld really need to keep it going.
who are the internal scouts ? names are always welcome.
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Ask Billy Eppler. The coaches and instructors can be doing internal scouting as well.
blake – I think the game is on YES today.
“who are the internal scouts ? names are always welcome.”
Jim Hendry!
shame,
Thanks….hopefully i can catch some of it. I really just want to see Teheran and Manny pitch.
Koufax is childhood friends with Fred Wilpon. He always goes to Met camp.
I remember watching Manny and Dellin last spring… man those kids looked good.
Koufax could probably pitch for the Mets now.
shame-
this blog doesn’t need me to stir up trouble…
i saw yesterday’s pain killer induced rant about re building the yankees on a 1959 white sox like model
that would be 6th in hitting and first in pitching .
personally i liked the 1960 yankees- first in pitching and first in hitting.
of course that didn’t stop the pirates , clearly a lesser team from beating them in the world series.
“Ask Billy Eppler. The coaches and instructors can be doing internal scouting as well.”
jerkface-
so are you are saying that billy eppler is the de facto yankee gm while cashman is “busy’ with other personal things. ?
Randy,
Cashman doesn’t need to be there to evaluate the players. That’s what Girardi, Pena, Rothschild, Harkey, Long, and all the minor league coaches and scouts are doing right now.
Much like I don’t think Apple’s new CEO is walking the factory floor to make sure the iPads are properly packaged.
so are you are saying that billy eppler is the de facto yankee gm while cashman is “busy’ with other personal things. ?
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No. He and Jean Afterman are the assistant GMs, so they should be able to handle responsibilities if Cashman cannot, but of course we do not know that he cannot or not. I said that because Billy Eppler, until promotion to asst GM, was the head of the scouting department. So if you want the unpublished names of Yankees scouts, you could simply ask him.
The GM does not need to be sticking his hands in the batter during the first week of spring training. He was just down in Florida for pitchings & catchers up to the first few games.
“The GM does not need to be sticking his hands in the batter during the first week of spring training. He was just down in Florida for pitchings & catchers up to the first few games.”
jerkface -
yeah, i agree. most yankee batters wouldn’t like that.
maybe you’re right.
staying away may be the best approach.
- WEEKLY SERIES THAT I BLOCK OUT TIME TO WATCH -
(1) GAME OF THRONES – Every episode Absolutely captivating.
(2) BOARDWALK EMPIRE -A “Black Sox” subplot adds to the mix.
(3) SOUTHLAND – Makes “Dragnet” and “Adam 12″ look like “Sesame Street”.
(4) AMERICAN PICKERS – Monday night comic relief.
Randy when is Brian Cashman being fired, and/or when is this story going to be a huge distraction in the press?
..like you predicted?
randy l. March 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
“Ask Billy Eppler. The coaches and instructors can be doing internal scouting as well.”
jerkface-
so are you are saying that billy eppler is the de facto yankee gm while cashman is “busy’ with other personal things. ?
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Randy,
Cashman’s in NY – he’s not marooned on an island without communications. How often does he travel with the team during the season? Does being in New York while the team is visiting Kansas City prevent him from being able to do his job if the Yankees need to make a trade or call someone up?
Randy, did you play yet? I just played 9 yesterday but shot. 45. Had to go back to work after.
How is Pineda going to learn a change up with the constant media throng surrounding him and asking questions about Brian Cashman?
Maybe Brian Cashman is going to teach Pineda the change-up?
randy l. March 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
“The GM does not need to be sticking his hands in the batter during the first week of spring training. He was just down in Florida for pitchings & catchers up to the first few games.”
jerkface -
yeah, i agree. most yankee batters wouldn’t like that.
maybe you’re right.
staying away may be the best approach.
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He’s not “staying away.” It’s just not his job to be there on the field. He has nothing to do with it.
It would be like saying Girardi is neglecting his duties by not calling other managers to talk about trades.
Rothchild needs to work with Robertson concerning walking and chewing gum at the same time.
blake March 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Koufax could probably pitch for the Mets now.
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Too expensive for them.
“Randy when is Brian Cashman being fired, and/or when is this story going to be a huge distraction in the press?
..like you predicted?”
stuckey-
cashman has done a good job of delaying his grand jury testimony. however , now that he has likely given it, there should be a decision coming of soon if the grand jury is going to charge meanwell.
that date is march 21.
of course, the best thing for cashman is if charges are dropped in a mutually agreed upon settlement where she just goes away.
if the grand jury indicts her and she plead not guilty there will be a trial and that just kicks the can down the road and keeps the thing alive.
of course. it really doesn’t matter if cashman is preoccupied because as jerkface has said, billy eppler and friends has it all under control.
having cashman elsewhere and delegating may be as good as having him fired.
but you’re right, cashman has just breezed right through this little problem with no effect to his life
randy – I know, I’m just joshin’ ya… Just thought it was funny that your first post evoked such a response. This place is a bastion of debate no matter who pops in. We’ll always manage to find something to argue about… reminds me of Thanksgiving at my mother’s.
I do sometimes vaguely wonder what it would be like to be in the same room as many of you and try to have these discussions in the form of an actual conversation. I picture a lot of shouting and crying in the fetal position.
MLB Network has Yankee game on today at 1:00 EST
blake, our game is on mlb-tv, mlb network and YES. The YES replays on at 10PM (or after the Nets’ game).
Did you actually see Teheran pitch? If so, how did he look? I read he was forced to come in an inning early because Delgado had thrown 39 pitches (so he didn’t get to start) and that there was a swirling wind affecting the balls. But even if those two things didn’t actually have an effect, the kid is 21 and has to go through growing pains. Are people already getting all over Teheran in Braves land? I’d love to see Viz pitch for the Braves today as well.
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As for Brad Suttle, the shoulder continues to plague him and he doesn’t think it is worth it to have another surgery. His career could be over. Sad.
“Randy, did you play yet? I just played 9 yesterday but shot. 45. Had to go back to work after.”
benny blanco-
once you can shoot 45 , breaking 80 isn’t far away. just knock 5 shots off with your short game.
i haven’t played this week being back up in maine. i made a huge break through in florida last week though. it involved a really firm back lower leg that had the knee locked in. it turns out that’s what michelson used as a swing thought for winning the pebble beach tournament. look it up and see if it’s something you can use.. it’s a swing thought that makes a lot of other things right.
We have NO idea what is going on in Cashman’s life. To say he has “breezed” thru this is a shot in the dark. What new?
I have a feeling that whenever Cashman and the Yankees part ways – be it a year from now or ten years from now – Randy is going to pop up and say “see, I told you that this affair would cost him his job.”
Randy, just so I’m clear, the emoticon acknowledges you’re not responding to to the question of when you’re so-far incorrect prediction will come true, right?
I played golf once in my life. I shot a 47 on 9 holes and got really bored playing, so I left and hit up the bar.
I’ll say this, however, Randy always does manage to get a rise out of people by saying really, really dumb, self-important things.
Randy wins again!
randy
staying away may be the best approach.
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Try it and report back on how it works.
I think December would be a good time for the report.
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DONNYBROOK March 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
- WEEKLY SERIES THAT I BLOCK OUT TIME TO WATCH -
(1) GAME OF THRONES – Every episode Absolutely captivating.
(2) BOARDWALK EMPIRE -A “Black Sox” subplot adds to the mix.
(3) SOUTHLAND – Makes “Dragnet” and “Adam 12? look like “Sesame Street”.
(4) AMERICAN PICKERS – Monday night comic relief.
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u missing the walking dead, awsome show
“I played golf once in my life. I shot a 47 on 9 holes and got really bored playing, so I left and hit up the bar.”
what you’d shoot on the windmill hole?
I believe Zoilo Almonte controls the fate of Nick Swisher and Curtis Granderson.
If Almonte puts together a strong showing this season in the minors and the Yankees determine he’s ready to play – I believe the Yankees will allow Swisher to walk and put Almonte in RF next year.
If they feel Almonte is close, but not quite ready, then I think they re-sign Swisher and allow Granderson to walk after 2013, moving Gardner to CF and playing Almonte in LF.
(there’s no reason for this post other than to change the subject)
u missing the walking dead, awsome show
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More like terrible.
Shame, I would prefer Romine gets more hitting practice in at AAA before joining the big club. Coming up too soon will be counterproductive to his “O” and doubt they bring him up early unless Cervelli gets hurt.
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Most of the Braves regulars today are playing in the home game against the Mets instead of vs. us (split squad). Braves pitchers we won’t see today b/c they are pitching vs. the Mets are Delgado, Kimbrel, Venters, Eric O’Flaherty, and Anthony Varvaro. Might see Viz.
“Walking Dead” is walking dead.
Jerkface March 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
u missing the walking dead, awsome show
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More like terrible.
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More like it can’t decide. Usually, there are about 10 solid minutes of tv in that show and the rest of the time I want to kill that little sh*t Carl myself with a handgun for not being able to act his way out of a paper bag. When you’re getting out-acted by people playing ZOMBIES there’s a problem.
“randy – I know, I’m just joshin’ ya… Just thought it was funny that your first post evoked such a response.”
shame spencer-
shhhh, don’t let them know i’m having fun watching them go ballistic.
fem – I hear ya.. I think I’m just itching to see some of the kids and Romine is the only one close this year unless we get to see Warren, Phelps or Mitchell pitch. I’m assuming Manny and Dellin won’t be playing for us this season, so all my hope rests on Romine lol.
Donny – The comics are just soooo good…If the show had a budget that could get them off that damn farm it’d be so much better.
haha i cant belive the walking dead hate
Randy, It was a public course in NJ. The guys I payed with thought I was lying to them about never playing before.
I’m sure it was some sort of dumb luck thing and if I played again I’d be over 200.
Shame Spencer March 9th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Jerkface March 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
u missing the walking dead, awsome show
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More like terrible.
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More like it can’t decide. Usually, there are about 10 solid minutes of tv in that show and the rest of the time I want to kill that little sh*t Carl myself with a handgun for not being able to act his way out of a paper bag. When you’re getting out-acted by people playing ZOMBIES there’s a problem.
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Big fan of Person of Interest and White Collar – I feel about the AMC shows like I feel about Ramiro Pena – they don’t bother me but I wouldn’t want to see too much of either of them.
The comics are just soooo good
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More like sooo terrible.
Benny Blanco
Don’t let randy fool you.
The weather is great here.
He’s just to much of a wienie to play if it’s under 70.
I feel about the AMC shows like I feel about Ramiro Pena
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The real good shows on AMC are Breaking Bad and Mad Men.
Even if Melky Mesa or Z.Almonte have break out seasons or regress they can still offer Swisher arb & if he accepts then at least that’s one extra year before they figure out what the long term situation in R.F is (2014 and on)
I also like “Hardcore Pawn”, but it didn’t make the cut. I anticipate seeing Fielder come in there and get in some kinda “beef” with the owner. Exposes “Pawn Stars” for the fraud it is.
haha i cant belive the walking dead hate
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Whats not to believe? Is it the best zombie show on TV? Sure. Its also the only zombie show on TV, which gives it a huge pass to people who want to watch zombie shows, while ignoring the terrible acting, characters, plot, pacing, dialogue, show logic, etc. The original show runner was already fired, and the replacements have been trying to pick up the pieces and doing a lackluster job of it.
Jerkface March 9th, 2012 at 11:36 am
I feel about the AMC shows like I feel about Ramiro Pena
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The real good shows on AMC are Breaking Bad and Mad Men.
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Like I said – I can take them or leave them. It’s not something I would feel compelled to tune into.
i like the show…shane is bad ass
“I’m sure it was some sort of dumb luck thing and if I played again I’d be over 200.”
tom in nj
maybe not.
just think , you may have a natural swing and could be making millions instead of posting comments here on lohud.
on second thought, i see your point, why would anyone give this up ?
i like the show…shane is bad ass
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I have some bad news for you then.
Am I wrong for wanting to see this movie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34x6m-ahGIo
Doc Iac- my dad, brother and cousin are all huge Walking Dead fans. Don’t worry, you’re not the only one.
The best AMC show was Rubicon, but sadly it died an early death.
Jerkface, sounds like someone is tuning in weekly to watch a really terrible show.
Would that be correct?
I saw couple episodes of Game of thrones while I was in AC… pretty solid adaptation of Martin’s book. The opening was pretty awesome.
Erin March 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Doc Iac- my dad, brother and cousin are all huge Walking Dead fans. Don’t worry, you’re not the only one.
The best AMC show was Rubicon, but sadly it died an early death.
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glad u got my back erin
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Gotta be an “end game”. Just where are they supposedly attempting to go??? And the sexual stuff is absolutely ridiculous. Hadda good thing going and parked it on that farm. And that barn full of Zombies they supposedly knew Nothing about was beyond belief.
Anytime Doc Iac.
Jerkface, sounds like someone is tuning in weekly to watch a really terrible show.
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8 million people actually, I can’t figure it out.
“Catcher/3B cross training seems something the Yankees encourage. Because both are reaction positions?”
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My guess is Cashman is experimenting with long term development (30+yrs in advance) of managers in the farm system. Torre caught. Torre played 3B. Makes sense.
“8 million people actually, I can’t figure it out.”
Explain it to me. Why are you watching?
I’m REALLY asking. No sarcasm.
8 million people actually, I can’t figure it out.
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mindless escapism… same appeal that lohud baseball blog has for me.
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I liked Rubicon. I think the problem was you really had to watch Every week in order to keep up with the story line. People just are not inclined to commit to 1hr every week without fail.
stuckey March 9th, 2012 at 11:45 am
“8 million people actually, I can’t figure it out.”
Explain it to me. Why are you watching?
I’m REALLY asking. No sarcasm.
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People tune in to watch Met games – there’s no accounting for taste
Explain it to me. Why are you watching?
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My friends watch it, and we usually watch serialized shows together. Walking Dead has the advantage of being on when Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, & Game of Thrones are on break for sunday TV. The show was promising early, so I was hoping it’d turn around under the new show runners. Having read the comics (up to a point where it got so dumb I stopped), I was also interested in how they’d adapt it.
And there is some appeal to ‘so bad its good’ TV. Though doing it as a drinking game ended with us throwing up.
Donny- you’re probably right. It definitely wasn’t everybody’s cup of tea. I loved that frickin’ show though.
And that “after show” following each episode of Walking Dead, is akin to having an “after show” folowing a train wreck.
And as I said, it is the only zombie show on TV. So if you’re a fan of the zombie genre then its all you got, and sadly its just terribly disappointing.
Jerkface March 9th, 2012 at 11:38 am
haha i cant belive the walking dead hate
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Whats not to believe? Is it the best zombie show on TV? Sure. Its also the only zombie show on TV, which gives it a huge pass to people who want to watch zombie shows, while ignoring the terrible acting, characters, plot, pacing, dialogue, show logic, etc. The original show runner was already fired, and the replacements have been trying to pick up the pieces and doing a lackluster job of it.
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Agreed on most counts but its really the budget.. the original show runner did not want to spend the first six episodes on a farm lol, they made him because they won’t pay for them to film at other locations. I do watch it only because its the only zombie show on tv and if HBO decided to try its hand at zombies I’d probably never tune into TWD again. I do love Andrew Lincoln though. And some of the new episodes have had some great throw backs to early Romero stuff. I guess that’s the problem though, the best stuff on that show is just a reproduction of Romero’s visions.
….Why doesn’t George Romero make a zombie show?!
Shame, DJ might be up as a long reliever, although I continue to see him as a starter. Also the long baseball season will likely guarantee Phelps and Warren get spot starts here and there. I think Romine will be up second half, after we deal Cervelli (assuming the latter can stay healthy).
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Chip, Zoilo was a hot topic for us “Trentonians” going into ST. Pruf thought he could be a Melky type for us next year and we’ve been discussing his attributes with the bat here on the blog. I like him too, but he is still on a learning curve, more of a 4th OF right now.Thing is he can be very good, but he’s inconsistent. He shows power/decent SLG from both sides of the plate, which you have to love (really nice splits for pop) but he can also show lack of plate discipline. He raked first half in Trenton and that is the player I hope to continue to see. But then he had a woeful second half and bad habits where he is out of whack and doesn’t square to the pitch; also in moving up from Tampa his overall numbers vs. righties was much worse than in A+. He’ll go back to AA, and hopefully put up first half numbers and have better splits, but he is definitely a player to keep an eye on.
Jerkface – I at least think the pacing of the comics is a lot better so even if you don’t like a particular story line they are following it usually ends up changing up very quickly. The show, however, can’t seem to stop this endless loop of stupidity.
And stuckey – I still watch it too lol, we also tried a drinking game. For every time one of the characters says something that has already been said/established on more than one occasion we’d do shots….I’ve been wasted every Sunday for weeks.
Great stuff fem, thanks!
Thanks for the response JF.
At the core of this is why I think I often am so at odds with fans of common things. Stops being fun, I have no problems walking away.
I often use the restaurant analogy. After a while and the food and/or the service is consistency bad, and the quality of the restaurant just makes you angry, just makes more sense (to me) to find a new restaurant.
stuckey – Needless to say, I would never try to establish a drinking game for this blog
Agreed on most counts but its really the budget.. the original show runner did not want to spend the first six episodes on a farm lol
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Well that and the writers. They could have made the farm interesting if they had interesting characters and stuff made sense. Its a shame because I thought the first 3 episodes of season 1 were really good. The first episode in particular.
“i would think a gm would want to be in spring training just to you know , watch.”
This jihad is the product of thinking?
I love The Walking Dead…one of the best shows on TV, as far as I’m concerned. I DVR it every night.
I enjoy the moral and ethical dilemmas that could rise if society were to totally collapse around you. I like saying, “But what if it DID happen?” and then speculate from there. No criminal justice system, no government, no public utilities, money is now worthless, etc. I think that is fascinating! “The Stand” is my favorite Stephen King novel for the same reasons.
Just because it’s not your cup of tea doesn’t mean that it’s horrible.
I often use the restaurant analogy. After a while and the food and/or the service is consistency bad, and the quality of the restaurant just makes you angry, just makes more sense (to me) to find a new restaurant.
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For a TV show thats part of a friend group tradition of hanging out, this hasn’t quite hit the level of ‘too bad to continue’. Though its about to be replaced by Mad Men & Game of Thrones within the next few weeks. It gets a bit of a break because it started strong and it is run by AMC, who so far have made some of the best TV on. In the end its not a bad price to pay to hang out with people I like.
Tarheel In NYC March 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I love The Walking Dead…one of the best shows on TV, as far as I’m concerned. I DVR it every night.
I enjoy the moral and ethical dilemmas that could rise if society were to totally collapse around you. I like saying, “But what if it DID happen?” and then speculate from there. No criminal justice system, no government, no public utilities, money is now worthless, etc. I think that is fascinating! “The Stand” is my favorite Stephen King novel for the same reasons.
Just because it’s not your cup of tea doesn’t mean that it’s horrible.
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thank you,
i find myself puttin me in their shoes and thinkin what choice would i make…
i find most ppl that dont like it require instant gradification and watched the transformer movies 50 times
The writers can’t seem to stop having to have the characters explain everything! They seem to have no concept of letting the audience make inferences. They can’t even utilize flashbacks properly. Shouldn’t flashbacks be used to still move the story forward instead of showing us what has already been explained?! The daughters Herschel are my personal favorite to mock.. oh, and T-Dog, the only black guy on the show that they don’t even bother giving lines to for entire episodes at a time. Stupid Shane, Horrible Lori, and Can’t Act Carl are also endlessly entertaining (for all the wrong reasons).
I’m sorry I’m ranting about tv… this will probably earn me multiple demerits.
JF, did you see zombie movie with Woody in it, I forgot the name… pretty entertaining.
i find myself puttin me in their shoes and thinkin what choice would i make…
i find most ppl that dont like it require instant gradification and watched the transformer movies 50 times
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The characters are blank enough that I think you could do this pretty easily. Read Game of Thrones and get back to me on instant gratification.
no books, i dont read…im not a loser
JF,
I was making more of a general point – I don’t get the sense that for you the TWD has turned into the source of constant bitterness being a Yankee fan has for some.
haha im half kiddng, i dont read alot, but readin dont make u a loser
like a termite choking on a splinter!
“I enjoy the moral and ethical dilemmas that could rise if society were to totally collapse around you. I like saying, “But what if it DID happen?” and then speculate from there. No criminal justice system, no government, no public utilities, money is now worthless, etc. I think that is fascinating! “The Stand” is my favorite Stephen King novel for the same reasons.”
I think the problem is they don’t highlight those themes enough.. instead they sit around arguing with each other about absolutely nothing important. And I still don’t get how there is so much electricity available in this post-apocalyptic zombie world.
Doc lac,
Agreed. Many of the complainers that I hear judge the quality of the episode by the number of walkers and deaths in the episode, which seems pretty childish to me.
“Did you actually see Teheran pitch?”
nah I didn’t….I haven’t see him since the futures game.
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Some of us saw the very short Season 1. By comparison, Season 2 is flat-out Horrible.
So since we’re talking TV, who’s looking forward to Game Change this weekend?
Or is MOVIES about politics against the rules too?
So since we’re talking TV, who’s looking forward to Game Change this weekend?
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HBO can pretty much do no wrong, so I’ll be watching.
blake, it will be interesting to see him pitch today. Think he makes the club from the get-go or goes to AAA?
stuckey-I’ll be watching. Looks really good.
Doc Iac March 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
no books, i dont read…im not a loser
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I do acknowledge by coming to an internet blog, I assume a certain risk…
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Manny and DJ alert today
. I’ll keep popping my head in to try and catch both guys.
Donnybrook & Shame,
I have to very respectfully disagree
I think the ethical dilemmas are addressed frequently, and I’ve seen every episode from both seasons, and I think it’s marvelous. I guess we just have different expectations and needs.
I’m enjoying the conversations, though…they’re definitely bringing out my inner nerd
I’ll check out “Game Change”. I like Ed Harris in just about anything he does. I also want to get a look at “Veep” at the end of the month.
Or is MOVIES about politics against the rules?
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It’s not TV, IT’S HBO !
“Night of the Living Dead” scared the hell outta me on the big screen when I was a kid. AMC has made a mockery outta that movie with Season 2 of Walking Dead.
Jerkface March 9th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
So since we’re talking TV, who’s looking forward to Game Change this weekend?
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HBO can pretty much do no wrong, so I’ll be watching.
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I’d like it better if it was fiction..
Donny-I’m looking forward to “Veep”. “Girls” too.
Tarheel – I’m sort of a horror movie fanatic and specifically LOVE zombie flicks. I’ve even started getting really into zombie books lol. So I’m a tough critic, I’ll admit it.. but I dunno, there are just too many under developed characters for me. And I think it sucks when all of the women on a show are rendered entirely useless/annoying.
Love The Stand!! I’ve read it 3 times, but haven’t read it in 20 years. I Sid find my original copy while going thru boxes this past weekend.
Sadly, I’d be a blend of Kelly, Pam, and the receptionist. It’s sad because I don’t care for any of those characters. Just take the best parts of all 3, that’s me.
. Kelly is getting her own show on Fox. I think she plays a drunken slut and it’s modeled after some other famous person.
IMHO, The Walking Dead is more about the people/relationships/adapting to their new enviroment, and not so much about the the walkers. Maybe that’s why I enjoy it so much (b/c of the sociological implications); I don’t ordinarily go for the zombie genre. Hm.
I think the ethical dilemmas are addressed frequently, and I’ve seen every episode from both seasons, and I think it’s marvelous. I guess we just have different expectations and needs.
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I wouldn’t say frequently, and the problem for me is how they are arrived at. The confluence of stupid events and character actions to get to a ‘what do we do with randall’ moral dilemma is uninteresting. For a post apocalyptic series, they’ve dealt little with the necessities of the setting like scavenging and resource scarcity. Shane, upon finding jugs of water, opens one up all over his head wasting the entire thing? And then they dont even pick any of them up? Lori doesnt wanna loot cars because ‘its like a shrine to the dead’? Get real. The drama is weak because its wholly manufactured by really dumb plot choices, like Sophia’s disappearance. Not to mention they have been unable to keep a consistent universe for the zombie rules.
Take a look at the sequence of events that led up to the latest moral dilemma of what to do with Randall and you can see the problem. Its an attempt at the LOST dynamic without Michael Emerson’s gravitas.
Shame, I think you and I were having the same revelation at the same time. See my post before this one
Ifa person is a horror movie/zombie fan, then I can see why TWD would be disappointing and frustrating. Point well made
m-I’ve heard Mindy Kaling’s new show is supposed to be very “Bridget Jones” like. I think she plays a doctor.
I love her, so I’m really hoping that it gets ordered to series.
I’d like it better if it was fiction..
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Think I understand what you’re getting at.
That said, Palin’s campaign manager, who is one of the 4 main characters in the film, was on MSNBC last night helping promote it.
I think we can vouch for its accuracy.
The Best Steven King story that was transferred to the Big Screen was “The Dead Zone”. Christopher Walken has steadily been going down hill ever since playing that lead role. Walken has found a home on Satuday Night Live, but other than that, his pinnacle was achieved in that gripping Steven King tale.
Erin,
Lol. The blurb I read did say Bridget Jones. ‘drunken slut’ was what stuck in my mind as I completely blanked on the Bridget Jones part.
JF, I understand what you’re saying and why you’re frustrated.
I just disagree is all. I think we have different expectations; mine are being met. Yours are not. And that’s always disappointing as hell.
In any zombie genre movie, the zombies are never really the focus, but presented as more of an ever-present natural phenomenon that works against the main characters. Its always about the group dynamic, character flaws, and human nature. Those are the things that get people killed in zombie movies and drive the plot. The problem in the walking dead is that all the characters are really shallow and bad. The drama is unable to be formed organically from the characters because there is not enough there.
DONNYBROOK March 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
“The Best Steven King story that was transferred to the Big Screen was “The Dead Zone”. ”
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I think The Stand was made into a tv show awhile back, I did not think it did the book justice. I borrowed my friend’s older brother’s copy, well, I never gave it back, so it’s mine! I remember being 1600 pages and very heavy. King’s crown achievement imo.
There is atleast some level of competence in the new showrunner, as they managed to bring all the previously ‘hidden conflict’ to the forefront. By revealing the affair, the baby, shane’s transgressions at the school to the entire group, instead of having this network of people keeping a secret that the audience already knows which just makes it frustrating for viewers as it makes the characters look dumb in their eyes because of all the information the audience knows which the characters do not. You can’t let info like that sit out there too long.
The Best Steven King story that was transferred to the Big Screen was “The Dead Zone
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Cujo, Christine and Shining were pretty good as well… so was ‘It’ …scared the crap out of me as a kid. I stress this… Clowns are not funny at all.
True story I sat next to Stephen King at a Rays game 2 years ago and even tried to hook up his sister in law with Todd Kalas. Got them to meet and everything but she was too shy and none of my gamesmanship was able to blossom their love.
Time to get back to work…and watch my Heels whip the Terps. Tar! Heels!
stuckey March 9th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I’d like it better if it was fiction..
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Think I understand what you’re getting at.
That said, Palin’s campaign manager, who is one of the 4 main characters in the film, was on MSNBC last night helping promote it.
I think we can vouch for its accuracy.
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No doubt about that stuckey, more what I’m getting at is that I don’t think there’s anything wrong with women capitalizing on getting promoted in life through the ‘wink and nod’ method…. I just have a problem with a women getting to the point where she may be made the second most powerful person in the country by using that tactic. Palin set women in politics back about 50 years, easily. How could anyone take us seriously after that mess….
I should note that because I met Stephen King and talked with him about stuff that I am now a LOHUD SME on movies, books, and whatever else Stephen King is into.
/randy’d
Jerkface March 9th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
In any zombie genre movie, the zombies are never really the focus, but presented as more of an ever-present natural phenomenon that works against the main characters. Its always about the group dynamic, character flaws, and human nature.
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They haven’t scared us enough with other living people.. who are usually the most dangerous in apocalyptic times. There haven’t been enough threats to the group by other humans. Grimes killing that Philly version of Renee from True Blood was pretty cool.. it just didn’t last.
They haven’t scared us enough with other living people.. who are usually the most dangerous in apocalyptic times. There haven’t been enough threats to the group by other humans. Grimes killing that Philly version of Renee from True Blood was pretty cool.. it just didn’t last.
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That was hands down the best scene in season 2. I wish they were a bit more subtle about it though. They hammered the ‘these 2 guys are creeps’ button a bit too hard. It would have been better if it was more ambiguous so that Rick’s decision had more impact on his character arc of beginning to do whatever it takes to save his group.
” I should note that because I met Stephen King and talked with him about stuff that I am now a LOHUD SME on movies, books, and whatever else Stephen King is into.
/randy’d”
When you write with him get back to me
Shame,
Her campaign manager didn’t vote for the McCain/Palin ticket. She couldn’t bring herself to. She didn’t vote at all.
To her credit, Lawrence O’Donnell try to make hay of this but she graciously didn’t harp on it or throw Palin under the bus.
The book did and apparently the movie has things the book did not, but her there endorsing the movie says all you need to know about how accurate the book was and apparently the movie is.
So who watches Spartacus?
[waits for the inevitable not as good as Season 1, Liam McIntyre is not Andy Whitfield response].
I’ll say this “more” Viva Blanca is never a bad thing….
Cashmoney March 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
The Best Steven King story that was transferred to the Big Screen was “The Dead Zone
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I prefer Stand By Me (aka the Body) – but that is just me. . . .
Game Post up
havent watched spartacus yet, but i gotta, im BIG into ancient rome and ancient greece
Rome on HBO was great
So who watches Spartacus?
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Best show on TV (until game of thrones comes back). The ability of the show runners to make a completely gratuitous TV show in terms of violence, nudity, and swearing while maintaining an incredibly dynamic plot structure & intriguing characters is incredibly impressive. It took awhile for McIntyre to grow into the role but the last few episodes have been hitting on all cylinders. It was always going to be tough to replace Andy (RIP), and its clear he doesn’t have the fight training Andy did, but they’ve managed to make it work. It helps that Spartacus now is a much different Spartacus from season 1 just in terms of his goals & attitude.
The real loss was Batiatus, as he was the standout from Season 1 and the prequel, but Glaber moving from distant oppressor to hands on villain this season has been great, while Illythia remains a very credible villain & Ashur is great. If you look at Batiatus’ rise to power through season 1, the echelons that Glaber & Company are working in now are much higher a station than even Batiatus dreamed of reaching, and they are 100 times more ruthless & crazy. Really shows the depravity of the roman elite and the futility of Batiatus’ striving in season 1. Cossutius was a man who would stop by Batiatus’ ludus to treat it as a private pleasure house, but he is a good friend and maniac to the current villain group. It will be even more nuts when Crassus gets involved.