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Pineda thrilled with changeup progress

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 15, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Michael Pineda wasn’t excited, and he couldn’t hide it.

“Awesome,” he said. “My changeup today, ooph, it was great.”

That’s right. Ooph. Pineda needed some sort of sound for emphasis, and he went with ooph. The changeup is the pitch the Yankees have asked Pineda to improve, and it’s looking more like a legitimate weapon. Both Pineda and Joe Girardi estimated that he threw at least 10 of them today.

“It was really good,” Russell Martin said. “He got a bunch of strikes on it, a bunch of swings and misses, got a punchout and a first-pitch ground ball to second base. A lot of positive things coming out of that pitch today. … When you work on something and you see results quickly, it’s encouraging. I think he’s happy with that.”

There’s no denying that Pineda is happy. His fastball was once again in the low 90s, but he seems perfectly unconcerned about that. His slider is beginning to look as good as advertised, but that’s to be expected.

“That’s my baby,” Pineda said. “I threw a very good slider today, but I’m very excited because my changeup was great. I threw a lot of changeups today and felt comfortable. … Last year, I didn’t throw a lot of changeups, so this year, I’m focused a little more on my changeup and making a good pitch all the time. I’m not worried about my fastball. I don’t know how my fastball is right now, but it feels good.”

That’s the progress the Yankees were hoping to see.

“It’s nice to have success when you’re working at something,” Girardi said. “If you’re making a change or you’re trying to learn a new pitch, it’s nice to have success because I think if you don’t, you’re going to get frustrated, and you’re going to question, do I use it or not? But he’s had some success.”

Pineda said he’s surprised at how much he’s been asked about his fastball velocity. Girardi called it good training for the media experience in New York.

“He was up to 92 today,” Girardi said. “I know that’s going to be talked about a lot. It’s his third start. We still have time to get his fastball where we need it to be. Because of what we went through with Hughes, I think everybody is much more concerned about velocity this year than we were in the past. Power pitchers, over the years, have taken a while to get going. I hope it continues to improve, but that’s just something we have to wait and see and evaluate.”

Said Pineda: “I know I haven’t thrown my fastball (like) last year, but my fastball is coming. More throwing in the game, my fastball is coming.”

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90 Responses to “Pineda thrilled with changeup progress”

  1. Nilsson March 15th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    If Pineda is happy, then I’m happy.

  2. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Said Pineda: “I know I haven’t thrown my fastball (like) last year, but my fastball is coming. More throwing in the game, my fastball is coming.”

    Is there going to be a slash section at his next start?

  3. G. Love March 15th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    I wish I could honestly say I’m not concerned by the velocity drop, but I’d be lying. There is some bizarre pattern that when guys from other teams put on pinstripes they lose MPH.

    92 is nice, but I thought the whole reason we dealt for him was he threw 95 free and easy for strikes like it was nothing. I just hope and pray we didn’t get rooked and ended up with damaged goods.

    He still has time, but after Hughes last season and seeing Vazquez and others lose their fastball here and what it meant to their overall success, I’m legitimately concerned.

    That said, the good news is he’s getting more feel for his change up and it’s working for him. His normal velocity with that slider and a good change makes him deadly.

  4. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Pineda looked good to me, especially on that ground ball change up.

  5. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Was that a CU that Pineda struck Harper out with ?

    Seemed to run down and away from the lefty.

    If it was it was a really nice pitch.

  6. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    MTU -

    Hey Mike, how are you feeling, better I hope. How’s Mrs. MTU doing?

  7. CashmanSUX March 15th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    There is something wrong. You don’t just go from 97 to 89/90 unless something is wrong.

    By the way, Pineda was throwing at this velocity in his final start of last season, too. Cashman traded one of the very best prospects in all of baseball for damaged goods.

    Why am I not surprised? Hopefully this will cost Cashman his job… FINALLY.

  8. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    I was happy to read that Pineda is getting better results with the CU. As to his FB, he has a history of starting slow in ST. I have no doubt his mid-ninety’s FB will be there soon, along with his great slider.

  9. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Al-

    I’m doing much better. Not quite 100 % yet.

    Mrs. MTU is about 60-70% and improving.

    Thanks for asking.

    How are you doing ?

  10. EA March 15th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    It wouldn’t be Yankees ST without a pitcher we’re counting on losing a few MPH off his fastball.

  11. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    As to his FB, he has a history of starting slow in ST.

    No he doesn’t. He was mid 90s his first appearance in spring last year. And that is the extent of his spring training history. He also has never pitched winter ball, so lets cut that potential avenue for escape off.

    If he is really working on his change up as hard as it appears, then maybe he just hasnt felt the need to let loose. He should start thinking about doing so though.

  12. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    AL,
    The slider was there, a few Ks on left-handers.

  13. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    MTU -

    Had to go for more tests today, will have some news by next Thursday.

  14. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Al-

    Please keep me in the loop.

    Got the Blue Angels streaking around our skies. Can see ‘em from the rear yard.

    They’re getting ready for their first ever show in our area this Sun.

    Unfortunately the weather does not look good.

    :(

  15. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    JF -

    I was reading a quote made by Pineda about a week ago where it was he that stated his FB was always lower in ST, but would be there by regular season. I have no other info about it. Do you have a link where I could get that info?

  16. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    MTU -

    Drag out that big lens, and shoot some of those Blue Angels flight.

  17. Bret The Hitman March 15th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    When a hard throwing gets stretched out 170 innings for the first time, he can lose some velocity before regaining it. Didn’t Verlander pitch with diminished velocity at one point?

    I like his confidence. I like that he’s a quick learner. I think he will become a well rounded pitcher. And when he polishes up his secondary stuff and regains the mid 90′s fastball he’s going to be a frontline starter.

  18. blake March 15th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    “Was that a CU that Pineda struck Harper out with ?”

    Yes….it was nasty. The slider was really good today and he’s getting a nice downward plane on his pitches…..I think the arm speed will come…….

  19. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    Al-

    They are movin’ so freakin’ fast and are somewhat far away. Doubt I’d get much.

    As part of the show we were supposed to also get a demo by an F22.

    Haven’t seen any of those practicing though.

    Rain in the forecast for Sun.

  20. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Bret -

    :)

  21. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    I was reading a quote made by Pineda about a week ago where it was he that stated his FB was always lower in ST, but would be there by regular season. I have no other info about it. Do you have a link where I could get that info?

    Go to USSMariner.com and find the blog post from march last year when Pineda’s first start was on. Keith Law: @keithlaw
    Saw him on 3/7/11. 93-96. “@Jbeck73: @keithlaw Pineda’s velocity yesterday is meaningless unless we know what it was at this time last yr”

  22. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Blake-

    I thought it was. Thanks for confirming.

    Slider looks excellent.

    Once the velo appears this guy could be really deadly.

  23. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    MTU March 15th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    Al-

    I’m doing much better. Not quite 100 % yet.

    Mrs. MTU is about 60-70% and improving.

    Thanks for asking.

    How are you doing ?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    If you were any kind of caring husband, you’d move out to the woods, MTU. The poor woman is suffering enough.

  24. blake March 15th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    As I said this morning….even if Pineda does have somewhat of an innings hangover and it takes him awhile to get his velo back to full strength…..in most all cased the velo does come back if the guy is healthy…..Pineda can be really good still at 93 with his command, slider, and a better CU…..now obviously they got him for 97…..but that should be there eventually…..

  25. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    MTU -

    The F22 is a beast, I’d love to see it up close, and in flight. Mrs. will not go to any air shows, she keeps reading about the number of accidents at them.

  26. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    When a hard throwing gets stretched out 170 innings for the first time, he can lose some velocity before regaining it. Didn’t Verlander pitch with diminished velocity at one point?

    Verlander lost 1 mph off his average fastball in 2008, but it was 3 years removed from his pro debut. Dunno how many innings he pitched in college, but he had 130 in the minors, 180 in the majors, 200 in the majors in consecutive seasons before his velocity dipped by 1.

  27. blake March 15th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    MTU,

    His slider is legitimately one of the best in the game…..

  28. Bret The Hitman March 15th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    A loss of 1 MPH average could be 5 MPH on any given day or short period of time (like Spring).

  29. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    JF -

    Thanks for the info, I’ll check it out.

  30. luis March 15th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Hello everyone,

    Missed the entire game… :( .

    JF and Big Al,

    I read in an article that he had learn to not use all his velocity, maybe he is just getting command first, and then go all out with it.

    Did he looked good?

  31. CompassRosy March 15th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    FWIW ~

    The following article from last ST doesn’t mention velocity specifically but, does give some context of where Pineda was in his ML readiness at this time last year, as well as some nice back story that some may find interesting…

    http://tinyurl.com/7x8becu

    ::::”He continues to be confident with his secondary stuff, able to slow it down when he needs to slow it down, which is always nice to see for a young pitcher,” Wedge said. “For a young person fighting for a spot in the starting rotation, he’s handled himself very well. His stuff is the obvious, but I think the way he’s handled himself along with that has been very impressive.”

    Impressive enough to make it impossible for the Mariners to keep him out of their rotation? Too early to tell, but Pineda’s first two outings might have them thinking hard about the possibility, never mind the implications for free agency in 2017.

    Pineda has wisely aligned himself with Hernandez, watching his every move on and off the field. And Hernandez is enjoying the mentoring role, initially delaying his media session on Monday because he wanted to watch Pineda.:::::

  32. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    http://www.fangraphs.com/pitch.....8;pitch=FA

    You can look at his velocity chart here. Still in the 90s each start. Not near the 90 line.

  33. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    MTU,
    Went to an airshow in Sussex County, NJ, were the attraction (besides the aerobats and the war birds) was supposed to be a fly-over by a B-2 bomber. The crew of the B-2 couldnt find the airport (!). We saw him in the far distance, but he couldn’t find us. My faith in the Air Force was a little diminished that day. They flew all the way from Kansas, but they couldn’t find a rural airport on every aeronautical chart.

  34. Villa Nova-Ya March 15th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Hamels and Verlander had a bit of a letdown after having great first seasons. And I would say they bounced back well. Seems that there could be a pattern here. Patience is the key. Even IF Pineda has a year with lesser velocity, it doesn’t mean he’s a bust. He could bounce back stronger. Also, doesn’t mean he would necessarily have a bad year. If he can locate the fastball well, even at lesser velocities, plus mix in the other pitches effectively, ti doesn’t have to be a bad thing

  35. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Tom-

    If these guys are practicing again tomorrow I’ll see if I can snag a few spy photos.

    I’ve seen B2′s in the air near Nellis. Looks like something out of science fiction.

  36. m March 15th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    So, the gun was only off by 2 mph? Doesn’t seem right.

    Ugh. Espn New York headlining Yanks Pineda: “I’m a little scared”. So I click on it thinking it might be postgame stuff.

    Um. No. Something from 7 am about how he’s sometimes he’s a little scared because he doesn’t want to make mistakes (speaking English with the media).

  37. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Rosy -

    Thanks for the link, nice story, brought a smile to my face.

  38. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    Rosy-

    You answered a question I had.

    I wondered if Pineda benefited from being around the King.

    Thanks.

  39. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    MTU,
    I’d love to see an F-22, or better yet, an F-35, if they can keep them in the air long enough.

  40. Villa Nova-Ya March 15th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    m -

    Time for an interpreter. And a crash course in Yankee Media Relations 101.

  41. mick March 15th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    I don’t understand the emphasis on a CU being the only difference between Pineda being a master
    or a bust. He changed speeds today be it with his curve, slider or just off speed pitches.
    It shouldn’t be as hard as somebody here said, to throw that pitch anyway. Maybe some have agendas to fill.

  42. m March 15th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Bard finally has an ERA. :)

    Take a look at the box score from today. Fugly.

  43. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Tom-

    What I’d really like to see is the “Aurora”.

    The alleged super secret replacement for the SR 51 Blackbird.

    I don’t live too far from area 51.

    The access to the area has been continually cut down over the years to avoid prying eyes.

    ;)

  44. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    mick -

    Agenda’s to fill, is that what they call it, lol.

  45. mick March 15th, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    what would you call it big al?

  46. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    MTU -

    “I don’t live too far from area 51.”

    *********************************************************

    Now I’m starting to understand you better. Could be the reason you take so many hikes in the desert, just trying to go home. :)

  47. mick March 15th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    big al-
    i read your dissertation and must say you have fed the beast, if you know what i mean…

  48. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Al-

    ET call home ?

    :)

  49. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    mick -

    At this point, I don’t care one bit. I’ll not address it further, just had to say what I felt, period. If he wants to continue, he’ll be talking to himself.

  50. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    MTU,
    The Russians and Chinese know more about Aurora than we do. Seen any flying discs?
    There’s an SR-71 on the deck of the USS Enterprise. Unbelievable that it’s a 40-year-old airplane. Nobody has beaten its records, at least not officially.

  51. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    MTU -

    You said it …………..

  52. m March 15th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    It’s actually a good thing to be on the DNR list.

  53. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
    Tom-

    What I’d really like to see is the “Aurora”.

    The alleged super secret replacement for the SR 51 Blackbird.

    I don’t live too far from area 51.

    The access to the area has been continually cut down over the years to avoid prying eyes

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    “Aurora” is a myth, MTU.

  54. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Tom-

    Nope. Though some believe I belong in one.

    The Blackbird was an amazing plane.

    Can you imagine what the next generation would be like with all of the advancements since then ?

    Can blame the Military from trying to keep it blacker than black.

    Mach 5 or so and radar cross section of a bumble bee.

    Whew !!!!

    ;)

  55. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Should read : “can’t blame the Military”. sorry.

    GB-

    Even if it is the myth can really spark the imagination.

  56. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    They say that Pineda can throw at Mach 5.

    With command.

    And he has a really stealthy CU to go with it.

    ;)

  57. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    GB7,
    Were you under Marine air cover? They wouldn’t fly their F-4s under 1500 feet. Thank the Lord for the VNAF F-4Us.

  58. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    Should read : “can’t blame the Military”. sorry.

    GB-

    Even if it is the myth can really spark the imagination.

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    Even in a pressurized suit and cabin, they’re not sure the human body could withstand the Mach 7+ and G-forces in level flight.

  59. BIG AL March 15th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Have a good night folks, Later Y’all.

  60. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    GB-

    Maybe it is designed as a UAV ?

    With all the technological advancements that might be the next level.

    ;)

  61. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
    GB7,
    Were you under Marine air cover? They wouldn’t fly their F-4s under 1500 feet. Thank the Lord for the VNAF F-4Us.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, we were. The props were actually better for ground support though, until the Cobras came on line. Knowing “Spooky” was overhead was always a comfort, too. The droan of those props on that C-130 made for a usually quiet night and scared Hell out of Chuck.

  62. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    GB-

    Maybe it is designed as a UAV ?

    With all the technological advancements that might be the next level.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Hard to believe that most of the B-52s have been flying since just after Korea….and are schedule to fly untl 2040.

  63. Rice Pudding Flavoured Relief Pitcher March 15th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Wait wait wait hold up did someone mention that Pineda never pitched winterball in his career?

    He’s been pitching with the Licey Tigers since 2008. Look it up , every year except the winter of 2010 and obviously 2011 he’s pitched winterball.

  64. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    With Crimson in Triumph Flashing, even though we may lose to Vandy, a valiant effort. Vanderbilt goes down in the next game, that’s how thoroughly they were put though the mill by the Ivy League Champions. Gaudeamus Igitur!

  65. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    GB-

    You’d think they would have disintegrated years ago.

  66. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    He’s been pitching with the Licey Tigers since 2008. Look it up , every year except the winter of 2010 and obviously 2011 he’s pitched winterball.

    He has been signed with the Tigers since 2008, but he didn’t pitch there in 09 10 or 11. He himself said he has never pitched winter ball. And if he did, it looks like it would be 1 season in 2008. Which doesn’t help anyones case with his velocity being higher last year due to winterball.

    And actually I just checked here and he didnt even pitch in 2008: http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/.....038;y=2008

    So yea.

  67. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    MTU, you referring to the B-52s? Those things are built to last. They’ve changed the wings and jet engines a couple of times to handle the heavier loads over the years, but still the same basic design. They just change the electronics and install new wings. Fusilage is the same.

  68. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    GB-

    Oh yeah. That’s for sure.

    The punishment that some of the Boeing bombers took during the war is the stuff of legend.

  69. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    GB7,
    Nothing like an Arc light within mile.

  70. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Tom,

    We used to sit on top of the bunkers and blow the tops off of the mountains with those things. Everything in your body shook if you were within 15 miles.

  71. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Only took three of them, too.

  72. RadioKev March 15th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    I think his progress with the change up trumps velocity concerns. As long as he’s healthy this should be nothing to worry about.

    He threw 139 IP in 2010, and 171 IP in 2011. Isn’t that a pretty typical increase for a young guy?

  73. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 15th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    After Pineda’s first start:

    Typical for power pitchers, Rothschild said Pineda did not hit his typical velocity. Catcher Russell Martin described Pineda as throwing at about “90 percent” of his capacity. For comparison, Pitch F/X data showed that Pineda’s fastball last season averaged 94.2 mph.

    According to two scouts in attendance, who requested anonymity because they’re not allowed to comment on players, Pineda’s fastball came in between 89 and 92 mph.

    “(That’s) not what it’s gonna be later in spring,” Rothschild said when asked about Pineda’s velocity. “A little bit below, which you expect. Guys who are power pitchers usually take a little longer.”

    Actually stunning that someone wouldn’t have figured that out. And Big Al was right (I think it was Big Al who said it.) Pineda did say that he doesn’t start out throwing his fast ball at warp speed, he works up to it.

    I also think that working on other pitches automatically causes distraction from the fastball. But not to worry, this is ST. The guy knows what he’s doing.

    *********

    PINEDA IS A BEAST.

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 15th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    “I think his progress with the change up trumps velocity concerns. As long as he’s healthy this should be nothing to worry about”

    Yep.

  75. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Actually stunning that someone wouldn’t have figured that out. And Big Al was right (I think it was Big Al who said it.) Pineda did say that he doesn’t start out throwing his fast ball at warp speed, he works up to it.

    I also think that working on other pitches automatically causes distraction from the fastball. But not to worry, this is ST. The guy knows what he’s doing.

    Thats Rothschild talking about Pineda, and Pineda had no trouble throwing 95 in his first start of spring last year.

  76. kd March 15th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    cc was at 92 last start too.

    don’t worry, the velocity will come.

    this kid looks like a beast out there.

    but watching the game made me miss cmw in his prime. he had a chance to be a really special pitcher for the yankees, just caught the injury bug

  77. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 15th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Pineda himself said he was starting off slow with his fastball this year and would build up. I have no reason to disbelieve what a player says so I’m good with it jerkface.

  78. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    I do not know exactly how many pitches Pineda threw today but just for argument sake let’s say it was around 50.

    It was said that he threw 10 CU’s.

    That’s around 20 % CU’s.

    Obviously he is practicing.

    Some of them were very effective.

  79. MaineYankee March 15th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
    MTU, you referring to the B-52s? Those things are built to last. They’ve changed the wings and jet engines a couple of times to handle the heavier loads over the years, but still the same basic design. They just change the electronics and install new wings. Fusilage is the same.

    ——————————————————————————–

    The loads wouldn’t have been so heavy if you guys had done some exercising. :D :

  80. MaineYankee March 15th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    MTU March 15th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    I do not know exactly how many pitches Pineda threw today but just for argument sake let’s say it was around 50.

    ——————————————————————

    That’s the trouble with you. All you want to do is argue.

    You didn’t get some sort of bite that’s causing your sickness did you?

  81. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    MaineYankee March 15th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
    MTU, you referring to the B-52s? Those things are built to last. They’ve changed the wings and jet engines a couple of times to handle the heavier loads over the years, but still the same basic design. They just change the electronics and install new wings. Fusilage is the same.

    ——————————————————————————–

    The loads wouldn’t have been so heavy if you guys had done some exercising

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    It did mean that they could carry heavier payloads if they didn’t have guys from Maine flying. They were usually full of it and themselves.

  82. GreenBeret7 March 15th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Maine, 67 pitches was the last count I heard on Pineda.

  83. tomingeorgia March 15th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Maine,
    When we jumped, it was C-119s, a 1940s design, or a C-130, or a C-121s. all very old airplanes. Why would anyone jump out of a perfectly good one?

  84. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Pineda himself said he was starting off slow with his fastball this year and would build up.

    Where did he say this? So far all he has said is that his fastball will come, not that this is part of some overarching plan to not touch his average velocity from last year.

  85. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Maine-

    It isn’t lyme disease.

    As far as I know Wratchett is still in Maine somewhere.

    Perhaps you should worry ?

    :)

  86. MTU March 15th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    New thread —–>

  87. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 15th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    “cc was at 92 last start too.

    don’t worry, the velocity will come.

    this kid looks like a beast out there. ”

    I got chills watching him when I went and watched the beginning of the game, which I had missed. I agree, kd. He is a beast. What a joy that we have him.

    “but watching the game made me miss cmw in his prime. he had a chance to be a really special pitcher for the yankees, just caught the injury bug”

    :(

    I feel so sad for him. He’s just got the kind of personality that makes you want to protect him. He’s quiet and gentle and I fear he doesn’t speak up for himself. He has so much talent. I just have to wonder how much it has been mucked with. I don’t know the answer to that, if at all. I have a general distrust for anything that happened under Eiland’s tutelage.

  88. MaineYankee March 15th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    GB7

    Watch Animal Planet at 9 tommorrow night.

    They are doing a show about Maine game wardens.

  89. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 15th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    “Where did he say this? So far all he has said is that his fastball will come, not that this is part of some overarching plan to not touch his average velocity from last year.”

    I don’t believe that I said that he said this is part of some overarching plan to not touch his average velocity from last year. How did you get that from my post saying he said he was starting off slow with his fastball and would build up?

  90. Jerkface March 15th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    How did you get that from my post saying he said he was starting off slow with his fastball and would build up?

    Because the way you have implied it, he said he is starting off slow on purpose and planning to build it up. Rather than the other way it could be read, that he is starting off slow because he simply cannot reach his velocity, which is a much different and more concerning read.

    So if he said its his plan to start slow, then post the quote.


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