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Off-day notes from the minor league complex

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 19, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Spent part of my off-day afternoon over at the minor league complex where the Yankees lower level teams were playing the Blue Jays. The Triple-A and Double-A work groups were on the road in Dunedin.

The highlight of the day had to be a towering home run by quickly emerging prospect Tyler Austin, a converted catcher who hit .323/.402/.542 in Staten Island last year. And that’s only after he put up even bigger numbers for a few weeks in the Gulf Coast League.

Austin was a 13th-round pick in 2010, and he jumped to No. 20 on Baseball America’s ranking of the Top 30 Yankees prospects this winter. My old friend Patrick Teale over at Pinstripes Plus also has him in the Top 20. Although he spent all of last year playing first and third, the Yankees will have Austin playing right field in Charleston this season. Vice president of baseball operations, Mark Newman, said Austin has “major league average” speed, which lets him handle the outfield, and he picked out Austin as one of the early standouts in minor league camp.

“A name some folks don’t hear,” Newman said. “(But he) looks really good.”

A few other notes from across the street at the complex…

• Right now, Mason Williams is playing with the Tampa group. So is Gary Sanchez, and J.R. Murphy is playing with Trenton. Newman said those assignments will almost certainly change after all the minor league guys are sent out of big league camp. “Doesn’t mean anything,” Newman said. Murphy is likely ticketed for Tampa, both Williams and Sanchez are almost certainly headed for Charleston.

• Speaking of Charleston, Newman said the Yankees plan to have last year’s top pick, Dante Bichette, open this season with Charleston. He’ll essentially skip Staten Island after playing just a handful of games there last season. He hit .342/.446/.505 in the Gulf Coast League last year. That Charleston roster should be impressive with Bichette, Williams, Austin, Sanchez, Cito Culver and Angelo Gumbs (to name a few).

• Newman’s response when asked who stands out in minor league camp so far: “(Jose) Campos, the guy we got from Seattle, really looks good.” Newman also singled out three position players: Gumbs, Williams and Austin.

• Rob Segedin, a regular third baseman who played outfield in the Arizona Fall League this offseason, has been getting most of his time in right field, and he’s likely going to be the regular right fielder in Tampa when the season starts. “We’ve got to see if he can play outfield,” Newman said. “We haven’t seen him play there enough.” Looks like Ramon Flores will be the other corner outfielder Tampa.

• Ravel Santana, who popped into Baseball America’s Top 10 Yankees prospects this winter, has comeback quicker than expected from a fairly severe ankle injury. He’ll be with Staten Island this year. “He’s going to be ready close to the start of the season,” Newman said. “He came back unbelievably fast.”

• One more Newman comment on Santana: “He can hit. He can run. He can throw. He’s got power. He’s got some plate discipline.” Oh, is that all?

• The Yankees other elite center field prospect is Slade Heathcott who’s out with a shoulder injury. I know there was an earlier report that Heathcott would be ready in May, but Newman said today he’s not expected back until June. Either way, he’s not going to be ready to open the season.

• I was a little surprised to see Greg Bird, last year’s fifth-round pick, starting at catcher today. I thought the Yankees were planning to put Bird at an infield corner, but Newman said they’re going to keep him behind the plate for the time being. He’ll open in extended spring training. “We’ve got to see if he can (catch),” Newman said. “He can hit – we really like the bat – whether or not he’s a catcher, we’ll find out over time. But he’s working at it, and so far he’s done well. Right now he’s going to catch. We’ve got to commit to that.”

• Lefty Jeremy Bleich was a supplemental-round pick in 2008 but he missed most of 2010 and all of 2011 with a shoulder injury. It’s taken a long time to fully recover, but Bleich is throwing bullpens at the moment.

Today’s starting lineups for the minor league teams
Remember, these assignments are subject to change before the season opens

Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
Austin Krum CF
Corban Joseph 2B
Melky Mesa DH
Dan Brewer RF
Kevin Russo 3B
Addison Maruszak 1B
Ray Kruml DH
Yadil Mujica SS
Deangelo Mack LF
Ryan Baker C

Trenton
Abe Almonte CF
Ronnier Mustelier 3B
J.R. Murphy C
Zoilo Almonte RF
Rob Lyerly 1B
Kyle Higashioka DH
Cody Johnson DH
Jose Pirela SS
Exicardo Cayones LF
Jose Rosario 2B

Tampa
Mason Williams CF
Carmen Angelini SS
Rob Segedin RF
Gary Sanchez C
Kyle Roller DH
Zach Wilson DH
Fu-lin Kuo 1B
Kelvin Castro 2B
Justin James LF
Jose Mojica 3B

Charleston
Cito Culver SS
Anderson Feliz 2B
Greg Bird C
Reymond Nunez 1B
Tyler Austin RF
Ben Gamel LF
Matt Duran 3B
Cody Grice CF
Kelvin DeLeon DH
Jake Cave DH

* Yes, it’s commond for minor league spring training lineups to have two DHs

** Some names you don’t see here — Dante Bichette, Angelo Gumbs, Daniel Lopez, Ramon Flores, Eduardo Sosa, Luke Murton, etc. — either played half days off the bench or weren’t scheduled to be in games today.

*** In some cases, extremely low-level players are currently playing at a much, much higher level than where they’ll open the season. That’s just because so many guys are still in big league camp. Jose Rosario jumps out at me as one example. I doubt he’ll open above Staten Island, but right now he’s getting some at-bats with Trenton just to fill a hole and get playing time.

**** Craig Heyer started for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre; Brett Marshall, Graham Stoneburner and Mark Montgomery pitched for Trenton; Matt Tracy and Tom Kahnle were among the Tampa pitchers and Bryan Mitchell had the start for Charleston.

 
 

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127 Responses to “Off-day notes from the minor league complex”

  1. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Hey look, Chad went and did his own thing today and got us some quality minor league information. Neat.

  2. Betsy March 19th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    That’s great news on Santana and Campos as well

    Thanks Chad!

  3. randy l. March 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    here’s another reason to watch out for the orioles:

    rick peterson on his new director of pitching title with the orioles.

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/…..-peterson/

    very good audio interview

    this is what the yankees need.

  4. mick March 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    good diggin at the minor league complex…good job chad!

  5. randy l. March 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUYY1kYrR8g

    rick peterson using pitch FX analytics to fix john axford

    interesting if you’re into using fx to coach pitchers

  6. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Great post Chad!!, very good info on the kids

  7. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    coverage of the minors is excellent here, no question! top-notch!

  8. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    I wish Chad would stop with the informative threads and instead focus on taking cheap shots at A-Rod.

    That would make this place fun again!

  9. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Chad is that you speculating on Santana being in SI, or did Newman say that to you?

    It makes zero sense for him to be in SI, since he is going to be ready to play right away, and talent wise he’s too good for that level.

    Guys with his talent who play a large majority of the season in the GCL do not ever not skip SI, so yeah I am hoping that was your statement on SI, and not Newman’s

    From what Patrick has said, they are taking things slow with him to be extra careful, but he is going to be in games by the end of this week/weekend.

    I still say he is on Charleston by the end of April at the latest.

  10. LGY March 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    What would it take to pry Brandon Belt away from the Giants?

  11. stuckey March 19th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    “but where’s the fun? where’s the inside stuff? where’s the interpretation of what’s going on? opinion? insight? humor? exclusive content?”

    For YOU, someplace else.

    Why is that a bad thing?

  12. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Y’s guy,

    I very seldom read the thread post….I love this place for the comments of the posters here

    I take the first part of my statement back…..I do read them, but i love the comments from the posters more.

  13. stuckey March 19th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    “What would it take to pry Brandon Belt away from the Giants?”

    Phil Hughes and Bret the Hitman’s first born.

  14. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    One more question for you Chad, did Newman say Austin was only playing right field, or also playing out there?

    It would make sense for them to play him all over, this way they could get all of their players rotated, and add Santana when he is ready to go .

    With Austin playing third and first, plus right.

  15. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    randy l. March 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    here’s another reason to watch out for the orioles:

    ——-

    Seriously? Watch out for the Orioles?

    A successful 2012 season for the Orioles would be finding a way to finish anywhere but last place for the umpteenth season in a row.

  16. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    luis, nice catch. but the fact is that if you read the comments section you will see that alot of other people, like yourself, seldom read the posts. there’s very little there.

  17. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    It makes zero sense for him to be in SI, since he is going to be ready to play right away, and talent wise he’s too good for that level.

    I think the implication is that his advanced return is still only going to be in time for the SI season to start. Recovering from his injury AND being ready for the start of the regular MILB season would be crazy optimistic. Original speculation is he was going to lose most of this year.

  18. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Randy I,

    This Rick Peterson is the same one we discussed the other night, right?

  19. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    over/under for the orioles this season is 69wins and i’ll take the under. britton was scratched again today and will likely miss opening day. that puts matusz most likely back in the rotation.
    prediction: O’s barely miss 100 losses and buck gets fired.

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock March 19th, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Now you see what Chad brings.

    Great info on the youngens, Chad. I may be mistaken, but I doubt there is one other guy on the Yankees’ beat who provides this kind of detail on the prospects in camp.

    As a ‘spect head, I thank you kindly, Chad.

    Later

  21. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    luis, nice catch. but the fact is that if you read the comments section you will see that alot of other people, like yourself, seldom read the posts. there’s very little there.

    ======================

    To be fair, i started lurking this place because of Pete….Then i started to read the comments thread…And at some point i decided to comment as well, loved the discussions and opinions from people that i think know a little more than i do…I did read this thread post because i found it interesting, but nowadays i come her more to interact with the community than to get news.

  22. randy l. March 19th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    there’s an unusual mixture of management and coaching personnel with the orioles.

    duquette, showalter, and rick peterson is a very interesting mix. maybe it will blow up because duquette used to be a total a hole but he did lay the ground work for the red sox world series teams.
    showalter and peterson both have their resumes of success.

    my inner psychic baseball quiji board says watch out for them :)

  23. randy l. March 19th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    “This Rick Peterson is the same one we discussed the other night, right?”

    luis -

    yes

  24. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    JF, that is not true, he is already healthy enough to play in the instructional games right now, but they are being extra careful with him, from what Patrick and Santana himself said, he is going to be in games in the next week or so.

    Again I am guessing Chad thinks he is going to be in SI, not Newman, because PT thought Newman was hinting at Charleston by the end of April at the latest.

  25. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Oh and the only person who said he would be out most of the season was that fool Law, who the next time he gets a scoop on a Yankee prospect, will be the first time ever.

  26. stuckey March 19th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Don’t the Orioles have a pretty low-ranker MiL system as well.

    Those three guys better be able to turn water into wine or the Oriole-watch may have to take place with time-lapse photography.

  27. LGY March 19th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    “What would it take to pry Brandon Belt away from the Giants?”

    Phil Hughes and Bret the Hitman’s first born.

    ——-

    That can be arranged.

  28. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    as someone who grew up taking it hard from robinson, robinson, powell, johnson, buford, quellar, palmer, macnally, weaver & Co. the continuing suckiness of the boys from bollimer still makes me a happy man!

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock March 19th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    luis,

    2nd homer of ST for The Son :D .

    Check in later.

  30. GreenBeret7 March 19th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Is Rick Peterson the same pitching coach that’s been fired more times than Art Fowler?

  31. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    The thing is that the Orioles are out manned by a significant margin in the talent level department when compared to their division rivals.

    Great coaching can only take them so far.

  32. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    randy l. March 19th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    From what i read from him, he is the real thing, his success is undeniable…But i wonder what kind of talent he has to work with and if he is going to be allowed the time needed to reverse course, that franchise has been mismanaged for at least 15 years.

  33. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    so basically, it’s costing the broncos $30M to get rid of tebow! :)

  34. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    wait, was peterson’s success with the Met’s undeniable? wasnt he the guy who could fix ollie perez in one bullpen?

  35. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 19th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    luis,

    2nd homer of ST for The Son :D .

    Check in later.

    ==================

    Another oppo shot? ;)

  36. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    wait, was peterson’s success with the Met’s undeniable? wasnt he the guy who could fix ollie perez in one bullpen?

    ==================================

    :) Good one, but i will look up his stats, all the teams he has been involved with have improved their collective ERA’s if i’m not mistaken.

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock March 19th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    luis, didn’t see it :(

    I’ll see if I can find out when I get back tonight.

    Good one, my friend, and all.

  38. GreenBeret7 March 19th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Yankees really screwed up by letting Cody Ransom go. a 2 run homer today.

  39. 86w183 March 19th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Rick Peterson lobbied to deal Kazmir for Victor Zambrano…. I hope he stays in Baltimore a good long time.

    He’s hear the phrase, “You’re Fired” more times than Donald Trump’s cast members

  40. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    A’s 2002 3,58 best in the AL 2003 3,63 best in the AL

    can’t find the Mut’s stats but someone posted them about a week ago, and their collective ERA improved after he came in as pitching and worsened after he left…Coincidence? maybe but those are facts

  41. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    You too JAP, see you later

  42. Bo knows March 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Chad works harder at his job than any other blog writer. At the same time he is a professional journalist, he reports the news. He can’t do the thinking for you. Readers are treated as adults and presented information. Now you want him to chew it for you

    Daily there are four, five pieces written, as no where else and the volume of comments reflect that. Some people have more time than others, that’s a given. If they wish to spend it on a baseball blog, their choice. I for one appreciate the work that is done by Chad, I don’t want predigested pap, give me the news, I’ll analyze it myself.

  43. stuckey March 19th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Wow, something is sure happening with the Mariners this spring:

    Montero .296
    Seager .314
    Ryan .318
    Ackley .344
    Saunders .353
    Ichiro .385
    Liddi .393
    Smoak .400

    Impressive.

  44. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    ok i had it wrong, peterson was going to fix victor zambrano in 10 minutes, oops!

    the success with the a’s was impressive, but maybe some of that credit could go to zito, mulder and hudson…

    if we’re going by era, the met’s era went from 3.89 in 2002 under rick waits to 4.48 in 2003 under rick peterson.

  45. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    It’s because they hired Rosy as their new hitting Coach.

    Apparently she’s really good.

    :)

  46. luis March 19th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    ok i had it wrong, peterson was going to fix victor zambrano in 10 minutes, oops!

    the success with the a’s was impressive, but maybe some of that credit could go to zito, mulder and hudson…

    if we’re going by era, the met’s era went from 3.89 in 2002 under rick waits to 4.48 in 2003 under rick peterson.

    ===============================

    LOL!, I knew about who you were referring too, still very good observation.

    I think Peterson took over at the end of 2003, so you had to compare 2003 to 2004

  47. Chad Jennings March 19th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm e
    Chad is that you speculating on Santana being in SI, or did Newman say that to you?

    Newman specifically said Santana will be with Staten Island. He also said Tyler Austin will be a regular right fielder. He didn’t specifically rule out some time at first and third, but he made it clear that Austin is now considered a right fielder.

  48. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Bo knows March 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    I agree this is the best Yankees blog…

  49. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Wow, something is sure happening with the Mariners this spring:

    The montero cascade effect.

  50. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    “The montero cascade effect.”

    Is that like a waterfall of hitting ?

  51. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Chad Jennings March 19th, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Thanks Chad, so Santana is skipping a whole level….Is this guy that good?

  52. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    to be fair to peterson, the brewer’s era did improve slightly from 4.83 in 2009 to 4.58 in 2010 under peterson but nonetheless he was let go after his one season with a year remaining on his contract.

  53. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    “The montero cascade effect.”

    Is that like a waterfall of hitting ?

    ==========================

    They have been illuminated by the son :)

  54. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Thanks Chad, so Santana is skipping a whole level….Is this guy that good?

    He isn’t skipping a level. He is actually kind of being held back a level, to short season low A instead of full season low A.

  55. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Thanks JF,

  56. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Thanks Chad,

    Again it makes zero sense to slow down Santana like this, they never have a kid with talent who put up big #s in the GCL go to SI the next season.

    This is breaking a 6 or 7 year run with everyone one of their players, and I don’t get it one bit.

    The only players who ever go to SI not counting pitchers is someone like Culver who did not have a big year with the GCL team or Williams last year, and most likely Bird this year, who did not really play at all, because of signing late.

  57. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Joakim Soria probably out for the season with a torn UCL.

  58. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Again it makes zero sense to slow down Santana like this, they never have a kid with talent who put up big #s in the GCL go to SI the next season.

    This is breaking a 6 or 7 year run with everyone one of their players, and I don’t get it one bit.

    He suffered a very big injury. I think it makes sense when you think of it that way. David Adams, with an almost 100% similar injury, has been held down for like 2 years.

  59. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    I may have mixed up Bichette with Santana who some say might skip a level

  60. Betsy March 19th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    And then the season will start…….ST is a giant tease and so many media types fall for it time and again.

  61. Betsy March 19th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Oh geez, that’s awful; I don’t like to see anyone get hurt. Poor guy…….the whole season.

  62. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    you are right, the mets era did improve despite the zambrano thing from 4.48 to 4.09 when peterson came in, sorry.

    his thing is the psychology of pitching and competition and i think he can probably help baltimore in that area. they have a few pitchers who have not lived up to what was expected given thier ‘stuff’ chief among them matusz. he can also be of help to other young guys like britton, tillman and arrietta.

  63. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    you are right, the mets era did improve despite the zambrano thing from 4.48 to 4.09 when peterson came in, sorry.

    his thing is the psychology of pitching and competition and i think he can probably help baltimore in that area. they have a few pitchers who have not lived up to what was expected given thier ‘stuff’ chief among them matusz. he can also be of help to other young guys like britton, tillman and arrietta.

    ========================

    Agreed, he could help, But i think that franchise has been so badly mismanaged that he will need at least two to three years to turn things around…

  64. austinmac March 19th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Chad, that was wonderfully informative. Their is nothing we love more than prospect news and hope.

    I suspect they are starting Santana late is to prevent themselves and him from pushing his ankle too early. Less may be more. It is great news he is doing well after much conflicting information.

  65. RadioKev March 19th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Wonder if we could package Robertson in a deal for a Royals hitter? Would they bite?

  66. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    RadioKev March 19th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Wonder if we could package Robertson in a deal for a Royals hitter? Would they bite?

    =============================

    You mean Drob? If i were the Yankees i don’t trade him

  67. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Wonder if we could package Robertson in a deal for a Royals hitter? Would they bite?

    Which one and why are we trading Robertson?

  68. mick March 19th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    # mick March 19th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    that’s not why most people left, imo. and neither was lohud’s head-in-the-sand reaction.
    =====================
    why can’t a sabremetrician come up with some numbers on this…how many left, name names.
    smaller % than you think…and have been replaced by new posters

  69. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Kev-

    Make it Soriano and you’ve got a deal.

    D-rob stays.

  70. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    JF it has nothing to do with his injury though, again he is going to be playing in games this week maybe, and Newman himself said he could have started on Sat with everyone else, but for them taking things slow.

    If they were trying to protect him, he would not have been working out this whole time, and playing in the games in the next little while.

    So now they are going to let him play in instructional games, from the last week of March till June?

    Again, this is a silly decision, if he is healthy, and everyone says he is, there is no way he should not be playing a full season with Charleston.

  71. Tom in N.J. March 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Soria’s 2nd T.J. surgery?

  72. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Once more this time austinmac, the only conflicting information on Santana’s health has come from Keith Law, every person connected to the Yankees has stated since late last year, really November, that he is well ahead of schedule, and was going to be 100 percent by the time spring started, which we now know he is.

  73. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Kev-

    Make it Soriano and you’ve got a deal.

    D-rob stays.

    =========================

    I like the way you think

  74. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Luis-

    That makes one of you.

    :)

  75. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Oh and JF, Adams had a different injury, supposedly Santana’s was way more serious when they happened, for whatever reason Adams foot never healed, and as of the end of last year he was still feeling it when he ran.

    This is not what we are hearing on Santana, in that he has been running pain free for a couple of months now.

  76. stuckey March 19th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Jason22, think you’re over-thinking this one. Read Chad’s quote again:

    “Santana, who popped into Baseball America’s Top 10 Yankees prospects this winter, has comeback quicker than expected from a fairly severe ankle injury. He’ll be with Staten Island this year. “He’s going to be ready close to the start of the season,” Newman said. “He came back unbelievably fast.”

    Newman doesn’t says he IS ready. He’s going to be.

    Doesn’t it make sense Newman was saying he’s be going to be ready by the start of the SI season, and not the minor league season in general?

  77. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    i love drob and have no desire to trade him but if kc calls asking about him, you have to ask who they have in mind. they have some great young talent.

  78. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    D-Rob stays unless it’s someone fantastic.

  79. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Give ‘em frickin’ Soriano.

  80. Baseball Mogul March 19th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Nice to hear Campos is looking like what they thought they were getting. Hopefully he stays healthy and proves it on the field all year.

    *Bracing myself for a return to further endless debate on the trade*

  81. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    I hope dePaula finally gets his visa.

    His stuff is on a par with or better than Campos.

    Pity so much time has been wasted with red tape.

    A shame.

    Still. If he finally gets it now it’s not too late.

  82. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    i love drob and have no desire to trade him but if kc calls asking about him, you have to ask who they have in mind. they have some great young talent.

    =====================

    Since this an academic exercise, what kind of talent would you trade Drob for?….I guess this question by Kev, came out as a result of Soria’s injury…I think that even though we have a very good BP that is going to get stronger mid season by the addition of Joba, Mo’s retirement looms in the horizon…I don’t think there is a better replacement than Drob at this moment

  83. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    stuckey, I already know Santana is ready from reading at Pinstripe Plus, and yeah, this is not about his ankle being ready, he is healthy enough to be playing in games now.

    This is from Newman, and Santana himself, so that is not the issue.

  84. stuckey March 19th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Jason22, I’d be glad to be privy to the info you are. Can you post it here?

  85. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Baseball Mogul March 19th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Nice to hear Campos is looking like what they thought they were getting. Hopefully he stays healthy and proves it on the field all year.

    *Bracing myself for a return to further endless debate on the trade*

    ===================================

    Got the seat belts fastened? J/k :)

  86. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    i didnt have anyone in mind, someone above asked the question. but the royals are loaded with young hitters, moustakas, hosmer, butler, gordon, drob barely scratches the surface on a trade for those guys, though.

  87. stuckey March 19th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Speaking of Johnny Damon, Indians are passing.

    http://www.cleveland.com/tribe.....ezequ.html

    Who do the have lined up for LF over Damon?

    “Meanwhile, left field remains unclaimed. Manny Acta says he’ll have a better idea on who will play there in the next “week or so when we have about 10 games to go.”

    How could Damon compete with that?

  88. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Luis-

    Give me Hosmer. I’ll consider D-Rob.

    And I said consider.

    Or Butler.

    or possibly Gordon.

    ;)

  89. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Or maybe Mike Moustakas.

  90. RadioKev March 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    I love David Robertson, but you’ve got to trade a set up man/closer for Hosmer/Butler/Gordon. Just a hypothetical ;)

  91. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Kev-

    I said I’d consider it.

    I didn’t say I’d do it.

    Doesn’t matter because the Royals wouldn’t do that, and we aren’t moving D-rob.

    I don’t care what you do with Soriano.

  92. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    No stuckey, I can’t share any of the articles or anything from PP Plus, sorry.

    I said all the relevant info though, and that may have been too much, but yeah all I know is he is healthy enough to be playing in games right now, but they held him out for an extra week.

    I guess I can say that Patrick who runs the site, thought there was a good chance Santana would be on Charleston by the end of April, but that was his guess.

    Chad got the info straight from Mark Newman, so I am sure he is correct, I just disagree with it.

  93. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    MTU,

    For Hosmer or Butler i would consider it, but they will ask for a kings ransom for those players.
    Gordon, lets see what he odes this season first. Still i would try to do a deal without Drob involved . ;)

  94. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Kev-

    I know D-Rob is only a reliever but he was on an Elite level last year.

    I think he’s gonna stay there.

  95. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Or the B’s

  96. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    That’s if he doesn’t keep tripping over empty boxes.

    :(

  97. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Oh and stuckey if you want the best info on Yankee prospects, I would suggest you join up.

    http://yankees.scout.com/

    It’s a great service, it costs like $86 for a year if you can afford, it I think it is well worth the money.

    You get all the info on the prospects, as well as lots of stuff about the coming draft, and then tons of stuff on all the kids they select.

  98. RadioKev March 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Haha MTU, find me one person on this blog that cares about what we do with Soriano :P

    I’m just saying, a hypothetical: we’ve got a wealth of pitching and the Royals have a wealth of hitting. Their closer just went down. We’ve got a strong bullpen, and bullpen depth in the minors.

    I’d bet Cashman will put in a call to see what’s up.

  99. blake March 19th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    “Joakim Soria probably out for the season with a torn UCL.”

    Maybe my boy Holland gets the closer nod.

  100. luis March 19th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    To get Gordon, i think Hughes straight up, but after this season

  101. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Kev-

    You may be right.

    Doesn’t hurt to check in.

    ;)

  102. austinmac March 19th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Jason,

    I had a subscription several years ago, and frankly it was far too optimistic on nearly every player. Perhaps it has changed.

  103. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Don’t the Royals also have Broxton ?

  104. luis March 19th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Austinmac,

    i had it too, and had the same impression. But it does gives good profiles on the kids, especially of those that go under the radar

  105. Bronx Jeers March 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Don’t the Royals also have Broxton ?

    ———————

    Yes. The Royals will “make do” with Broxton and Greg Holland. What they wont be doing is adding 25MM over the next 2 seasons on Rafael Soriano.

  106. Ys Guy March 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    wow, nobody wants damon. i cant think of any reason they would have contacted him then passed other than damon asking for too much money.

  107. luis March 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    Yes. The Royals will “make do” with Broxton and Greg Holland. What they wont be doing is adding 25MM over the next 2 seasons on Rafael Soriano.

    :(

  108. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Jeers-

    Too bad. I was hoping to recoup some of that Levine money, and get a player back at the same time.

    :)

  109. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Jeers-

    Funny thing was I actually favored the move at the time.

    That was when I thought we would be getting the lights out version of Soriano from the previous year.

    Not the one we got last year.

  110. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    austinmac, it’s not overly optimistic in my view, it has never been.

    If you read what Patrick says, the articles he writes, it’s very clear who he thinks the legit prospects are, and who are not. He tells you the strength and the minuses of all the players.

    Now they also have Frankie Pillier writing for them and Kevin (LaneMeyer) who does all the prep stuff, and then after the draft all the interviews, so it’s even better.

  111. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Hey Jason.

    Why don’t you just cut and paste some of it from time to time for us poor folks ?

    ;)

  112. Bronx Jeers March 19th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    I just hope he’s healthy and has a kick-ass season. Maybe he’ll find employment elsewhere but I sincerely doubt he’s gonna do better than the 14MM owed to him next season.

    The Yanks have thrown away so much money on middle relief over the years.

  113. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Jeers-

    How about how much has been wasted on trying to get LOOGY’s ?

    I’m glad we have enough talent to fill our BP from within now, or on the cheap.

  114. MTU March 19th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Gotta Run.

    I’ll try to check in later.

  115. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    luis and austinmac, I will give you two examples of where you might say he was overly optimistic, or just giving you the positive high end of what a prospect could be.

    He for years said that Nova and Nunez were way more talented then they were showing with their #s.

    Now he always said Nova, needs to learn how to finish guys, and he needed a better breaking pitch, but when nobody ever mentioned Nova, he was always the one person saying, this guy is a strike thrower, who has very good stuff, he just needs to learn how to pitch more.

    The same thing with Nunez, he said he was not consistent with his fielding,but it was not a lack of talent but of concentration. He always said he needed to be more patient at the plate, but his offensive talent was real.

    In both of these cases, I am sure people were reading him writing about these two guys, and saying wow this guy is just blowing smoke, because he writes for a Yankee site.

    He is a Met fan, he has no reason to overhype any Yankee prospect.

    I think he loves Romine too much, but you know what, he knew they wanted him to be their catcher more than Montero, so he kept on saying this, he was right.

    The guy never comments on a player unless he has seen him in person, that is so much more than some of these fools are who are famous online for being experts.

    In my opinion, he does the best job of any prospect guy, and that’s why I pay the money it costs.

    You guys should both checj it out for a month, and read all the top 50 scouting reports, then if you like the service keep it, if not, drop it.

    I would say that to all Yankee fans, if you are a minor league fan, it’s a great place to learn and enjoy the kids.

    Plus the forum is a good place as well to talk Yankees, and the minor leagues.

    http://yankees.scout.com/

  116. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    MTU, I know you’re joking, but yeah I could not do that, it’s pay stuff, and even if I did not like him and the other people there, which I do, I would not do that.

    Like I said, pay for a month, if you don’t like it, at least you can read all the scouting reports, like the top 50 which he just finished a week or two ago.

  117. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    You could excerpt an article. Providing the whole thing is a no no but people excerpt bp and espn insider all the time. They do not offer up enough of a preview of paid content to dive into that sight unseen, even knowing lanemeyers work from nomaas.

  118. luis March 19th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Thanks Jason,

    I forgot to unsubscribe so i got in fairly easily, thanks again

  119. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    I know it’s a no no JF, me even saying what is said just the tiniest details is probably wrong, but I do that sometimes, so yeah I won’t be posting anything like that.

    You’re a big minor league guy, you would love all the articles, if you can even afford the one month, I think it might be like 9 for a month, you should check it out.

    The info you get, is so worth the full yearly price I pay, and yes the lanemeyer stuff is golden, he does even more stuff then he did at nomaas, he talks to many of the kids they draft, plus the D.O. interviews basically going through pick by pick is gold.

    With Frankie Pillier is over at Scout now too, you have his talent over there.

  120. Jerkface March 19th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    I’m saying posting tiny details is not a no no. Rab excerpts keith laws espn insider stuff all the time.

  121. Jason22 March 19th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    No problem luis, enjoy the top 50 articles and everything else, and also check out the forum, you can comment on the articles and ask Patrick questions there.

  122. Rich in NJ March 19th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    blake March 19th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    “Joakim Soria probably out for the season with a torn UCL.”

    Maybe my boy Holland gets the closer nod.
    __

    Didn’t the Yankees trade their entire farm system for Soria last season? Oh wait…

  123. luis March 19th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Read about the potential 5 trading chips the Yankees had by the end of the winter meetings…1 Montero, gone…2 Noesi, gone. I hope number three stays with the team

  124. luis March 19th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    That’s Betances….He must have an inside scoop of the Yankees FO mindset

  125. blake March 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    “Didn’t the Yankees trade their entire farm system for Soria last season? Oh wait ”

    I think that was just Bret ;)

  126. Rich in NJ March 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    luis

    I proposed a trade moratorium at the end of last season. Sadly, the offseason demonstrated why I was concerned.

  127. luis March 19th, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Rich in NJ March 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    luis

    I proposed a trade moratorium at the end of last season. Sadly, the offseason demonstrated why I was concerned.

    ===========================

    Rich,

    If only they would have listen to you…. :(


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