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Pregame notes: Pettitte ready to face hitters

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 21, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees say they’re going to take things slow with Andy Pettitte, but after yesterday’s 50-pitch bullpen, they’ve already decided he’s ready to face hitters. Pettitte will throw batting practice on Friday, just three days after he officially arrived in spring training.

“Larry’s happy with where he’s at with his bullpen,” Joe Girardi said. “A lot of guys throw two or three bullpens (before they face hitters). Andy threw one for us 10 days ago and he threw another one in between at home.”

Girardi said the Yankees plan for a full six-to-seven-week spring training is still intact, but they consider his spring training to have started with that secret bullpen last Tuesday, which means he’s already more than a week into that schedule.

“We just have to watch his legs is the most important part,” Girardi said. “He’s thrown probably eight or nine bullpens, probably more than a lot of guys had thrown when they got here. Spring training is usually six and a half weeks, so we’ll just have to wait and see. As of right now I don’t think (that timetable is unrealistic), but we might change our mind as we see things progress.”

• Nick Swisher reported no additional problems this morning. “I saw him early this morning and he said he was OK,” Girardi said. “We’ll just take it day-by-day and decide when we’re going to get him back in there. There’s no rush. I think Swish is in a pretty good place. If it takes a few days, it takes a few days.”

• Derek Jeter is still on track to return to the lineup on Friday.

• Dave Robertson will throw batting practice on Friday. He should get in a game after that.

• Freddy Garcia will pitch in Saturday’s game against the Tigers. The Yankees haven’t said whether he’ll start, but that’s my guess. It would be the normal turn for whichever starter pitched on Monday, but that was an offday, so Garcia fits nicely.

• Hiroki Kuroda will pitch Friday’s road game against the Phillies. Ivan Nova will pitch at home against the Twins. Originally, those assignments were flipped, but the Yankees decided they didn’t want Minnesota to get a good look at Kuroda. The Twins play in New York early this season, and obviously they haven’t seen much of a pitcher who spent his entire career in the National League.

• To get here in time for Girardi, I had to leave Tampa early without stopping by the clubhouse, so I don’t have the second string lineup, but the Yankees did travel with these extra players: C Jose Gil, C Gustavo Molina, SS Doug Bernier, INF Bill Hall, 3B Brandon Laird, INF Jayson Nix, SS Ramiro Pena, INF Jose Pirela, 1B Jorge Vazquez, OF Colin Curtis, OF Ray Kruml, OF Justin Maxwell.

• Other pitchers on this trip: Cory Arbiso, Cesar Cabral, Juan Cedeno, Preston Claiborne, Mike O’Connor, Mark Montgomery, Clay Rapada and Adam Warren. Arbiso, Claiborne and Montgomery are up from the minor league complex.

RAYS
Ben Zobrist RF
Luke Scott DH
Evan Longoria 3B
Carlos Pena 1B
Matt Joyce LF
Jeff Keppinger 2B
Jose Molina C
Sean Rodriguez SS
Jesus Feliciano CF

RHP Kyle Farnsworth

Associated Press photos

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43 Responses to “Pregame notes: Pettitte ready to face hitters”

  1. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Go Phil!

  2. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    “Although he is no Yadier, that sum was offered before the Yadier deal though.”

    Yea…he’s not as good as Yadier though so unless he accepts something in that range id say gbye …..actually if he and Montero are gonna be close in price they should go with Montero anyway.

  3. Rich in NJ March 21st, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    They should rework their budget to able to get an impact bat at catcher because it is one of the few positions available for an upgrade, and with Jeter and A-Rod aging, they need that insurance.

  4. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    The Phillies lineup is in shambles…..Utley is gonna be out for who knows how long…..they better be glad the Astros gave them Pence….without him they’d be in trouble even more than they are.

  5. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Rich,

    Id hope….but I wouldn’t count on it. I think Montero would be great because he’s a good defender….is young….and hits left handed…..but I think he will be out of their price range so Im fully preparing myself for a 3-4 year contract with Martin….

  6. Rich in NJ March 21st, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    blake

    Given the suboptimal way this team is run given their abundant resources, I tend to agree, but until they make that mistake, I will hold out hope that smart thinking takes over.

  7. Shame Spencer March 21st, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Repost because I need this explained to me lol:

    Shame Spencer March 21st, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Thanks for the link pat. This is from the article and has me scratching my head:

    “Like systems in other sports, purchasers of paperless baseball tickets will enter ballparks using their credit card, which is swiped at the gate. Fans upon arrival then get a locator stub, created using a portable printer, to help find their seats. ”

    So…. we’re eliminating paper tickets to save the environment…. and then printing locator stubs?

    Am I getting this right or do I need another cup of coffee?

  8. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Rich,

    I think the priority right now should be to acquire a controllable (and good) corner outfielder …..if they can’t do that then perhaps they look at a more offensive minded catcher for next year but I think they are serious about the soft cap so its hard to say if they can give Miguel Montero what he will demand and then have enough room left for everything else they need going forward……if they really believe in Gary Sanchez then maybe they chance it with Martin…..right now though I think they should be looking for outfield alternatives.

  9. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Always up for a good, productive discussion about the budget, but my very reasonable question continually goes unanswered.

    If not $189m in 2014 (which likely will be the game’s highest, but a substantial margin), what should the Yankees budget be moving forward.

    Does anyone have anything insightful or empirical to say on the matter other than “more than it is”?

  10. Ys Guy March 21st, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    alot of the players and the players union were in favor of moving a team to the american league, including our own first baseman. nobody was going to switch voluntarily the way bud moved the brewers to the nl when mlb wanted another NL team.

  11. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    “Does anyone have anything insightful or empirical to say on the matter other than “more than it is”?”

    With 600+ million in revenues…..enough to put the best product they can on the field. Its not my money…..but as a fan that’s what id like to see….Im not concerned with Hals profit margin…..im concerned with my team winning….that’s just me talking with my fan hat on…..I fully understand that people are free to spend their own money however they wish.

  12. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Shame,

    “Stub”.

    They get just the stub.

    3/4-4/5′s of what would otherwise be a larger ticket never gets printed.

    I also assume the stub will be of a much lesser paper stock, so less paper is used.

    Doesn’t eliminate paper use, just greatly reduces it. 75-85% reduction.

    Make it an expresso.

  13. Ys Guy March 21st, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    i say the yankees are only married to the $189M budget so long as they can compete within that restriction. i dont see any reason they can’t but if say next year became some kind of disaster, they would more likely go over that budget figure to be competitive and save their revenues than make cuts to a non competitive team to get under the threshold. jmo.

    hopefully we’ll never know that answer…

  14. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Stuckey,

    Basically what Im saying…..is that if the Yankees have a decision between Nick Swisher and journeyman outfielder X for next year……or Russell Martin vs Miguel Montero etc…..then id like for them to get the best player available…..that’s not always possible or going to happen but as a fan I think its ok to want your team to be better.

  15. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    blake,

    You and I both know we’ve run around THAT track before. You just said “more than it is” in a lot of words we’ve gone over before.

    “More” is open-ended and subjective. You know as well as I, no matter what the figure may be, there will ALWAYS be a fan to argue “Yeah, but they’re the Yankees, they can afford $20m MORE than that” (whatever “that” is).

    I’m trying to push the dialogue forward into specifics.

    What should their budget be, approximately?

  16. Warning Track Power March 21st, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Is Farnsworth starting for the Rays?

  17. Shame Spencer March 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Stuckey – I just think its funny they’re ‘eliminating paper tickets’ only to print something different.

    Personally, I have no ticket preference though I know many a people who are upset whenever they get the electronic versions after years of collecting them.

  18. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    “You and I both know we’ve run around THAT track before. You just said “more than it is” in a lot of words we’ve gone over before”

    No I didn’t….there are times when spending more wont make the team better…..I just said whatever amount realistically puts the best product possible on the field..

  19. Ys Guy March 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    bad editing there, i meant to say that if because of some kind of disaster they found themselves not able to compete within the luxury tax threshold, they would more likely go over the # than stay under and lose revenue.

  20. Shame Spencer March 21st, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Doesn’t the budget remain fluid though? You can’t just pick a number out of thin air. It always depends on the context of a given season and who is hitting the market, doesn’t it?

  21. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    There isn’t a set number that their payroll should be….but its going to be 189 million dollars pretty soon.

  22. Ys Guy March 21st, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    farnsy is still the rays closer. he had a good year, 37 saves i think…

  23. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    “If not $189m in 2014 (which likely will be the game’s highest, but a substantial margin), what should the Yankees budget be moving forward.”

    I actually doubt this will be true…..I think if teams can go to 189 and not be taxed for it then there are a couple that will…..Red Sox, Phillies…etc… the Red Sox coukd operate there ….they just don’t want to.pay luxury tax.

  24. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    “I just said whatever amount realistically puts the best product possible on the field..”

    Wilson and Pujols or Fielder this year. Montero and Hamels next year.

    Wouldn’t ALL these acquisitions made the Yankees better?

  25. Ys Guy March 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    sorry only 25 saves idk who i was thinking of. still he threw up a sub 1 whip.

  26. m1kew March 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Other than MLB.TV are there any sites on the Internet that will be webcasting today’s game?

  27. Warning Track Power March 21st, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Well maybe he is starting the game so he can throw 2 innings?

  28. Ys Guy March 21st, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    i think it might have been someone on espn that projected 37 saves for krazy kyle this year.

  29. m1kew March 21st, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    I just learned that the game is on ESPN.

  30. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    “Doesn’t the budget remain fluid though? You can’t just pick a number out of thin air. It always depends on the context of a given season and who is hitting the market, doesn’t it?”

    Shame, and herein lies the breaking point on this issue.

    They idea that there isn’t and shouldn’t be any budget at all – that the Yankees should just keep adding to it if there is a player available they want.

    Which is a valid position, but just one utter unique. How many businesses operate with NO ceiling whatsoever on spending?

  31. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    “Wilson and Pujols or Fielder this year. Montero and Hamels next year.”

    I think I said “realistically “

  32. yankeefeminista March 21st, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Warning, yes, Farnsworth is starting for the Rays.

  33. mick March 21st, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    I know they didn’t do the wave. I hope not, anyway.
    ==========================
    and they didn’t streak but they did chant “We want a hit” was a big one.
    they were uptight back in the day, came to games in sports jackets and ties.

  34. yankeefeminista March 21st, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    …today, that is. Not in the regular season, obviously.

  35. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    “There isn’t a set number that their payroll should be”

    Why not? Why is is the knowing of no spending ceiling utterly unique to the Yankees?

    Why is spending a $1.50 for every $1.00 a no-brainer?

    “they just don’t want to.pay luxury tax.”

    Why haven’t more teams spent to right under the luxury tax limit the last decade then?

  36. blake March 21st, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Tebow to the Jets!

  37. blake March 21st, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    “Why haven’t more teams spent to right under the luxury tax limit the last decade then?”

    The Red Sox have…..and more teams are loaded with cash now.

  38. Shame Spencer March 21st, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    “They idea that there isn’t and shouldn’t be any budget at all – that the Yankees should just keep adding to it if there is a player available they want. ”

    But this is not my position, and I didn’t say so.

    We can’t go out and sign Tulo (if he hit the market) for example. We aren’t signing a 3B or a 1B. We still have to honor our contracts to some extent unless someone really falls off.

    Its about a lot of moving parts.. but when I say I don’t want them to have a budget, I really mean “I don’t want them to have a budget that forces them to make decisions between productive players like Granderson and Cano” for example. There is a very real possibility they will have to take on of the two to honor the budget. I’d rather them not do so.

  39. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    “I think I said “realistically “”

    Which is the point I’ve been making all along…

    Define “realistic” for me?

    Quantify it?

    Until someone does, it will remain an utterly vague, subjective notion without context.

  40. Shame Spencer March 21st, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Can’t believe we’ll be hearing Jets fans complain about 2 sh*tty quarterbacks this season..

  41. LGY March 21st, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    The payroll should be at a level where the Yankees can blow the doors off for elite under 30 talent at premium up the middle positions on offense and Aces (particularly LH Aces) in the rare occurrences these players hit the FA market.

  42. stuckey March 21st, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    “The payroll should be at a level where the Yankees can blow the doors off for elite under 30 talent at premium up the middle positions on offense and Aces (particularly LH Aces) in the rare occurrences these players hit the FA market.”

    Which equals….????????

  43. Chip March 21st, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Again – I disagree with the notion that the Yankees are being run in a “suboptimal way…given their resources”

    Again I will suggest that while Montero might be a highly touted, hi ceiling hitter – he is not one who fit this team’s needs in the future or going forward and given the Yankees’ inability to convert top end pitching prospects into top end pitchers – moving him for a pitcher further along and ready for immediate contribution was, in fact, an optimal use of resources. I would further suggest that if the Yankees new found wealth of high end pitching prospects enables them to be on the other side of a young pitcher for young hitter trade down the line, whereupon the hitter is maybe not projected to be quite as strong as Montero, but he is actually capable of playing the field – the Yankees will have still come out way ahead.

    For example; the Padres, by extending Nick Hundley, have essentially blocked Grandal’s way to the majors. Could the Yankees make a trade for him to be their catcher going forward?

    You worry about the continued aging of Alex and Derek – as you should. But you only worry about their offense. In moving Montero the Yankees pointed out that they are also worried about their ability to remain in the field for the foreseeable future and that having a DH with the inability to play anywhere else in the field was “suboptimal” and that they could get the maximum return on their value by trading Montero now as opposed to later.

    Now, I will agree that signing a Raul Ibanez and Eric Chavez don’t make for the best use of your bench spots – I think Justin Maxwell could easily produce more for the Yankees than Ibanez could and Maxwell will likely have to be moved since he will not pass through waivers as a Chris Dickerson did. But I’m also not a paid MLB professional talent evaluator and when push comes to shove I trust that the decision makers for the Yankees know a heck of a lot more than we do.

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