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Joba’s tests show no microfractures; out of hospital tomorrow

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 24, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joba Chamberlain is expected to be released from St. Joseph’s Hospital tomorrow, and the fact he’s staying tonight is little more than a precaution, Joe Girardi said.

After an extra-inning win against the Tigers, Girardi announced that MRI and CT scan results showed no microfractures in Chamberlain’s dislocated right ankle, and doctors have enough confidence that he’s avoided infection that they’re willing to release him on Sunday. No more surgeries are planned, and Girardi has been told that Chamberlain will remain in a cast for six weeks.

“Now he’s got to heal,” Girardi said.

There is a real sense of optimism in Yankees camp today, especially compared to yesterday’s focus on the worst-case scenario and the gruesome nature of the injury. Girardi didn’t seem to think it’s unreasonable to think Chamberlain actually could get on a mound by July, but obviously any timetables are premature guesses at this point. There’s still some significantly healing that has to take place.

“We’re not going to rush him because that’s a very important leg,” Girardi said. “That’s your push-off leg. If we (feel) that he’s not pushing off correctly, we’ll back him down. But we’ve got to get to that point first.”

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113 Responses to “Joba’s tests show no microfractures; out of hospital tomorrow”

  1. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    That’s wonderful news. Go Joba!

  2. luis March 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    The best possible news!!! Get well soon Joba!!

  3. David in Cal March 24th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Excellent news!

  4. jr1212 March 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Great news!! Here is to a speedy recovery!!

  5. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Thank God! We love and are rooting for you, Joba!

  6. Rich in NJ March 24th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Joba is one of my favorite players. I didn’t understand the dissing of him yesterday, especially without all the facts, while he was in an emergent situation.

    I really want him 100% soon, pitching this year, making people understand how good he is.

    RAB on Wade’s status:

    Non-guaranteed, ml contract, may have an option year left.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....012-62188/

  7. GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    One of the reports I read in the “paper” had it listed as the left ankle. I would think the landing foot would be the most importand because of landing in that hole and the force that the foot hits the ground. Whatever…this is the best possible news considering the accident.

  8. GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    A prospect hugger (older prospect at that) in the midst? Say it ain’t so.

  9. blake March 24th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    Wonderful news.

  10. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Joba risked multiple injuries getting on that trampoline. Most ball players are dumb as rocks.

  11. luis March 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Rich,

    Great find!!….So it could actually be feasible to send down Wade and take both lefties north…I still think is unlikely, but is good to have some flexibility. Especially since Wade is not looking that good.

  12. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    Rich, +1.

  13. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    if joba doesn’t get an infection, this may not be as bad as first thought.

    he’s not out of the woods yet because infections can reoccur later.

    as an aside, i’m assuming that because joba is a high profile person they are not giving the minimum necessary that they seem to give to regular people so the antibiotic’s effectiveness is not weakened.

    i may be wrong , but i believe that any individual patient has to fight to get an antibiotic strong enough to be in his best interests rather than getting one that’s in the best interest of the population in general.

    a doctor was stitching up my father’s hand and giving a very mild antibiotic when i intervened and asked for a stronger one while giving the story of a carpenter friend of mine who almost lost a finger because his doctors fooled around with low level antibiotics when he first was injured . they eventually told him after a year the last antibiotic was the last resort and amputation was next.

    i did mention to my father’s doctor the lawsuit the boston hospital was facing with the carpenter. that seemed to strengthen the antibiotic given, though
    not the doctor’s mood. with the stronger antibiotics my father’s hand healed up fine in a few weeks.

    i’m assuming that joba is getting serious antibiotics because of who he is, so i’m assuming he’ll be over the infection danger sooner than later. that’s a good thing.

  14. Rich in NJ March 24th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Most ballplayers are dumb enough to make millions a year. Dumb must be the new black.

  15. luis March 24th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    You are talking from personal experience, i gather.

  16. tom tresh 15 March 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Tin Cup, It is a shame that the average Joe does not receive the best of care

  17. GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    All things considered and what the worst could have been, yeah. Who could hope for better. Let it be August 2007 again, and the chunky kid with the big fastball and nasty slider rides in and becomes the local hero. This year, he’ll slay the evil midges.

  18. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    “Most ballplayers are dumb enough to make millions a year. Dumb must be the new black.”

    So the racist reveals himself.

  19. theREALkevin March 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Melkman is an idiot trolling clown and has been for years on this site. You’re better off just ignoring him.

  20. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    “This year, he’ll slay the evil midges”

    I like this line :) +1

  21. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    i’m rooting for joba to heal up quickly and get back on track with his tommy john recovery, but i think the yankees would be making a mistake if they didn’t say in a tactful way at the right time to the rest of the team be smart about outside activities.

  22. Rich in NJ March 24th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    “So the racist reveals himself.”

    So sad:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_new_black

    The new black
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This article is about the catch phrase. For the album by Strapping Young Lad, see The New Black.
    “_____ is the new black” is an expression used to indicate the sudden popularity or versatility of an idea at the expense of the popularity of a second idea. It is the originator of the phrasal template “X is the new Y”. The phrase seemed to have started in the 1950s or 1960s and became very popular in the 1980s. Since then it has often been used for ironic or humorous purposes.

  23. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Melkman is an idiot trolling clown and has been for years on this site. You’re better off just ignoring him.

    __________________

    But … he’s a friend of mine.

  24. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    theREALkevin March 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Long time no see. Good to have you around.

  25. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Rich, if only those who spew their derisive bs were dumb! ;)

  26. GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Anthony Jackson ? @dodgerscribe

    Details Scout just clocked Dee Gordon at 3.79 home to first. “That’s Ichiro time,” the scout said. “In his prime.”

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    S-L-O-W!! They used a sundial. Mantle’s best were 3.0 and 3.01

  27. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    “This year, he’ll slay the evil midges”

    I like this line +1
    _____
    +2 :)

  28. theREALkevin March 24th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Stuckey, then I feel sorry for you. I mean I have gotten into it with others on here before. I’m not always the most agreeable. But all that dude ever does is troll and bash people and players constantly. It’s tiresome.

  29. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    You clownish fools drink the koolaid. Fact: Montero is better for the team than Pinata.

  30. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    GB7,
    Wasn’t it Camilio Pascual who beat Mick in a foot race?

  31. theREALkevin March 24th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    What’s up Luis?? Yeah I haven’t posted frequently in a while but I still stop by every now and then. I usually post more during the season. How have you been?

  32. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Hi Yankeefem!,

    Good to see you around. Loved your morning posts. ;) Fangirl!!

  33. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    “It is a shame that the average Joe does not receive the best of care”

    i think the medical community is between a rock and a hard place with antibiotics because there is a worldwide crisis with antibiotics losing their effectiveness.

    however , for any individual, they need to make sure they are not being given the minimum necessary creating a risk to themselves.

  34. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    theRealKevin,

    I don’t know him at all.

    It was a short parable.

  35. GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    nothing better for you than mint ice cream with choclate chips and chocolate syrup after a hearty snack of pizza and reading trolls make an ass of themselves.

  36. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Kev,

    I’ve been great thank God. Looking forward for this season to start. I think we may have a WS team.

  37. Pat M. March 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Rich in NJ……None of us here see any reason why you need to explain yourself to this character at all other than maybe to shed a little knowledge his way…..

  38. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    Hi Yankeefem!,

    Good to see you around. Loved your morning posts. Fangirl!!
    _____
    Hi Luis! I have been officially labeled a fanboy. Didn’t you get the memo? ;)

  39. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    nothing better for you than mint ice cream with choclate chips and chocolate syrup after a hearty snack of pizza and reading trolls make an ass of themselves.

    ==================================

    Same pizza you keep feeding Killer with? ;)

  40. RMS March 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Is there any chance Maxwell makes the Yankees?

  41. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    “S-L-O-W!! They used a sundial. Mantle’s best were 3.0 and 3.01″

    I always suspected those Mantle times were embellished some.

  42. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    You clownish fools drink the koolaid. Fact: Montero is better for the team than Pinata.

    ______________________

    But I’m remark again.

    Why are the confirmed trolls always on THAT side of the issue. Taking not-so unfamiliar stands on this issue?

    What is it about being on that side of the issues that attracts the trolls, exclusively?

  43. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    RMS,

    Swisher’s groin is probably his best shot.

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    OH JOY!!!!! Thrilled about Joba. By always letting a smile be your umbrelly, you don’t have to waste any energy turning that frown into a smile. Optimism is always better for the psyche. That way you remain upbeat unless you hear you have reason not to. If you hear that, you deal with it then. But when you do it the opposite, you’ve put bad energy into your system that may not have needed to be there! The moral of the story – be optimistic. :)

    Speaking of a smile being one’s umbrelly, I just got back from working out. On my way to the gym I had the Sux game on the radio, where I was treated to hearing that Aceves and Bard didn’t fare so well and the score at that point was 10-2 Philly. :D Right after that, the Suxian broadcasters announced that the Sux schedule at the beginning of the season wasn’t going to be too easy either. Are you ready for this?

    @ Tigers for 3
    @ Jays for 3
    Rays for 3
    Rangers for 3
    Yanks for 3

    :lol:

    I was beside myself with delight and mirth. Then I went into the gym where the mood was one of somberness. I soon realized why. There on the big screen was the Sux- Phils game.

    I had the best workout, I tell you!

  45. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Hi Luis! I have been officially labeled a fanboy. Didn’t you get the memo? ;)

    =======================================

    Really!?, that’s a new one to me. The mail down here is worse than the pony express! ;)

  46. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Trisha, I believe you hate the Red Sox even more than I do. It’s probably due to you living in the middle of Red Sox Nation.

  47. m March 24th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    randy l,

    Thanks for the cautionary tale.

    When it comes to limbs, why fool around? We’re not talking building up a resistance because of overuse of hand sanitizer.

    Good to see that the panic and threat level have come down. Hopefully the thing heals right the first time.

  48. theREALkevin March 24th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Luis,

    Glad to hear you’ve been well. As far as the Yanks go, I know you were not happy with the Montero trade. Nice to see that you’re still positive about the season though. I’m optimistic as well but a little worried about the Angels & Rangers.

  49. GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Tom,

    at that time of his career, the Yanks had another kid from Oklahoma that Stengel called the fastest he’d ever seen…a pitcher named Tom Morgan. Then, Mantle showed up. They had an instructional school for the yanks in Arizona and they had 100 yard foot races. Mantle won by such a large margin, Stengel said he jumped the gun and had him run against Morgan again…9 more times. Morgan said he was so exhausted that he couldn’t run any more. Morgan said that getting beat in ten straight races didn’t bother him as much as Mantle giggling and ready to race anybody again.

    The Washington player that challenged him to a foot race in 1956 and again in 1964 was a close frield of Mantle’s, supposedly as fast as Mantle, Pedro Ramos. After a day before Memorial Day footrace in ’56, Ramos was starting and Mantle beat him again…with a homer off of the facade in Ys. They raced again in ’64 after Ramos was traded to Ny. Mantle beat him again. This story comes out of Yankee Encyclopedia.

    I know that you’re thinking I’m showing off, but, I really can spell encyclopedia without looking.

  50. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    What is it about being on that side of the issues that attracts the trolls, exclusively?

    ==================================

    Really?….I suggest you check your facts first.

  51. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    lol, luis. Speaking or p-r-o-s-p-e-c-t-s, wonder if DJ’s command was very off or if the sinker was just dancing too much. Obviously not so on the HR pitch. Guess we will never know unless Patrick gives us a report.

  52. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    melkman I don’t get why you’re being so surly. Once a ship has sailed, isn’t it better to anticipate a good adventure rather than to go down below and cower?

    stuckey, I think enough of us have agreed with you about staying away from the kinds of things you were talking about that you don’t have to keep taking little swipes about it.

    Let’s all head for higher ground. We have such reason to be thrilled as Y fans. We’ve gotten positive news about Joba, the Yanks have lost only one of their last 10 games, and today Detroit lost to the Yanks.

    Just be happy!

  53. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    “Hi Luis! I have been officially labeled a fanboy. Didn’t you get the memo?”

    i’ve been busy the past few days.

    what’s this latest “fanboy” assaults on posters who follow the minor leagues?

    like i said before, i don’t follow the minor leagues much because i’m not near a minor league team and from being a long time yankee fan, i know only a very few are going to make it to the yankees.

    that said, i almost glance at minor league reports on the blog if someone has seen the player with their own eyes. how could anyone object to someone giving a scouting report on a player they saw in person? especially when they have seen the player a lot and know them pretty well?

    i think it’s pretty obvious that the blog is divided up into multiple overlapping factions much like a political party. we all root for the yankees, but how we do it is very different.

    i say let the differences stand, and let information move freely on the blog.
    read what you want and skip the rest.

  54. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Kev,

    Don’t forget the Tigers, they are no slouch either. I would say that the Angels improved themselves the most. It’s going to be fun to watch that race between those two teams.

    About the other thing. it’s not this season i am worried about. I think this team is much better than last year. So i have high hopes.

  55. m March 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    Cromartie is right. He didn’t diss Tebow on Tuesday via Twitter. But he shouldn’t have said what he said.

    People think teams like the Yankees and Patriots are boring because they and the players basically have a gag order.

    But what’s the purpose of saying stupid stuff and then having to backtrack or “clarify” what you said? And create tension in the locker room on top of everything?

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    “Trisha, I believe you hate the Red Sox even more than I do. It’s probably due to you living in the middle of Red Sox Nation.”

    Craw, without a question, that’s the reason! It brings such happiness, ha ha.

    :)

  57. tom tresh 15 March 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    GB,

    This Day in Mickey Mantle History:
    March 14, 1951: Mickey is called out going from first to third on a single. Asked if the ump got the call wrong, Manager Casey Stengel says, “He got there so fast the ump must’ve thought he crossed the pitcher’s mound to get to third!”

  58. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Jeff Nelson just said on XM Radio that the landing leg is more important than the push off one because the push off is more stationary while the landing leg moves around with your full weight on it after delivering the pitch.

  59. ron March 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    nothing better for you than mint ice cream with choclate chips and chocolate syrup after a hearty snack of pizza and reading trolls make an ass of themselves.

    ————————————————————————————————————-

    I didn’t think you made that much of an ass of yourself!!!!

  60. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    jeff nelson may be right, but i never thought of jeff nelson as an especially smart guy.

    it does make sense that the landing leg takes the most impact.

    i don’t think having a long term problem on ether ankle can be good for pitcher though.

    the push off leg has to be used extensively too.

  61. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    lol, luis. Speaking or p-r-o-s-p-e-c-t-s, wonder if DJ’s command was very off or if the sinker was just dancing too much. Obviously not so on the HR pitch. Guess we will never know unless Patrick gives us a report.

    ==============================

    I was narrating the game. Took over from Trisha. So I can’t tell how good or bad his stuff was. But he kept the damage to a minimum, so that’s a positive. Probably he was struggling with that FB movement.

  62. MG March 24th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I guess Dr Weinfeld isn’t a regular LoHud poster:

    An open dislocation means that bone pierced the skin, which can add dangerous complications, according to Dr. Steven Weinfeld, the chief of Foot and Ankle Service and Associate Professor of Orthopedic Surgery at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine.

    “When the skin is intact, it’s much easier to heal,” Weinfeld said. “This makes it not only a career-threatening injury, but a limb-threatening injury…

    Chamberlain won’t be able to put weight on the ankle for two or three months, estimated Weinfeld, who has not treated the pitcher but is an expert on such injuries. That means Chamberlain won’t start baseball-related activities anytime soon.

    “I would be very surprised if he played this year,” Weinfeld added.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z1q4YJoh5N

  63. m March 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    Crawdaddy,

    I figured as much. The landing foot has more chance of landing in a weird way. So, it’s important that the compromised ankle be strong enough to handle the weight and the shifting.

  64. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    Trisha,

    I would have loved to see their faces…There is nothing i like more than to see sad Sux faces :)

  65. RMS March 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Trisha, I believe you hate the Red Sox even more than I do. It’s probably due to you living in the middle of Red Sox Nation.

    —————————————————————————————————–
    I think trisha needs to move to NY Yankee country. She’ll be much happier not being surrounded by RS and Patriot news.

  66. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Very good post. Kudos

  67. 4 NYY March 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    You clownish fools drink the koolaid. Fact: Montero is better for the team than Pinata.

    ===============================

    Pinatas will come in handy on Cinco De Mayo

  68. GreenBeret7 March 24th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    Tommy T,

    Stengel had a good line for all occassions. Loved the line that Warren Spahn told on him, though. After Stengel took over the Mets and Spahn was traded to the Mets, he said he’s the only player that played for Stengel before and after he was a genius. Spahn’s first ML manager in 1942 was Casey Stengel with the Boston Braves.

  69. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Jeff Nelson just said on XM Radio that the landing leg is more important than the push off one because the push off is more stationary while the landing leg moves around with your full weight on it after delivering the pitch.

    ===============================

    This is spot on. Both ankles suffer pressure, but the left ankle suffers more, not only for the landing but the rotational effects of the release.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    RMS – wish I could do it. I thought about it often enough but everything else that I love is here. But the good news is this. Their predictable demises give me extra added joy.

    :)

    luis, you had to see little elfkin’s face when the score was 10-2 and he made an error on what should have been an easy play. Priceless.

    That Ortiz karma keeps hanging over them like a huge ugly cloud.

    Life is good.

  71. 4 NYY March 24th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    About as good as we could hope for with Joba ! Still, GREAT news.

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    I’m always much more interested in hearing what the treating doctors have to say than what other docs who haven’t been involved have to say. Just too many nuances in the actual case. All outside docs can give is generic speculation based on similar cases, but as we always hear – every case is different.

  73. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    luis-

    the debating of ideas forces people to refine them.

    there’s no reason to tell other people to not post things that drive them crazy when all that person has to do is skip the posts.

    i really do skip a whole lot of people on this blog and i’m sure a whole lot of people skip mine.

    i don’t see the problem in that.

    now if someone directs a comment to someone that’s a little harder to ignore, but still possible.

    and i do agree with m that people should stay out of most conversations that they are not really a part of.

    what we are doing is hammering out some blog civility here.

    i think it’s slowly working despite the train wrecks every now and then when everything comes off the rails.

  74. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Man, Hellickson got lit up today. Gave up 11 hits, 10 runs and 3 hrs without recording an out in the 4th inning.

  75. Carlos March 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    our prayers worked

  76. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    YF,

    I did asked Patrick to give a full report on DJ…Probably he will give it later on i hope.

  77. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Which facts are those Luis?

  78. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Randy,

    Besides the trolls, you’re the biggest instigator on this blog so you giving blog etiquette suggestions is not only funny, but disingenuous BS.

  79. m March 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Yes, thoughts and prayers worked. But Joba’s life was never in danger according to his agent and dad.

    Was Matt Bush expected to make the team? His hut and run DUI requires a million dollar bail. His agent expects him to enter rehab when he’s released. He seriously injured a motorcyclist.

  80. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Trisha,

    Didn’t get the sense of any agreement at all. If you’re agreeing with me that using mental illness as an invective rises above the garden-variety nastiness that it a part of this forum, then I gladly stand corrected.

  81. luis March 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    luis-

    the debating of ideas forces people to refine them.

    there’s no reason to tell other people to not post things that drive them crazy when all that person has to do is skip the posts.

    i really do skip a whole lot of people on this blog and i’m sure a whole lot of people skip mine.

    i don’t see the problem in that.

    now if someone directs a comment to someone that’s a little harder to ignore, but still possible.

    and i do agree with m that people should stay out of most conversations that they are not really a part of.

    what we are doing is hammering out some blog civility here.

    i think it’s slowly working despite the train wrecks every now and then when everything comes off the rails.

    ======================================

    I think you are right. That’s the best course of action. I also think that things will get better as the season starts. But i have to recognize that some comments have gotten under my skin lately. And believe me, it takes a lot to get under my skin.

  82. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Someone must have been so busy answering prayers for Joba Chamberlain, he/she or it didn’t have time for those 6 children killed in a house fire in WV…

  83. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    “how could anyone object to someone giving a scouting report on a player they saw in person?”

    You tell me; it seems so innocuous, but guess not. No worries though I will continue to share.

    “we all root for the yankees, but how we do it is very different.

    i say let the differences stand, and let information move freely on the blog.
    read what you want and skip the rest.”

    I agree and I love the free and open debate. However, it seems to me that people here sometimes work overly hard not to coexist vs. the opposite, and that is all some want to do here. I just want to talk baseball without the BS and the censorship. It would also help if people were more conscientious readers and didn’t constantly conflate posters. But hey, trolls will troll. Not much you can do about it except scroll past. In fact here comes one now…

  84. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Luis, thanks would love to hear what Patrick has to say.

  85. ron March 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Report: Yankees offered Freddy Garcia to Marlins
    By Mike Axisa
    Via Danny Knobler, the Yankees offered Freddy Garcia to the Marlins in a trade, but they weren’t interested. Garcia and Ozzie Guillen are close thanks to their time in Chicago together. Freddy has already indicated a willingness to pitch out of the bullpen, but apparently the team isn’t fond of the idea.

    It’s easy to see that Garcia is the odd man out of the rotation at the moment, and he only figures to get pushed further down the depth chart once Andy Pettitte is ready to go. That’s assuming everyone stays healthy and effective, which is never the case. I’d rather not see the Yankees count their chickens before they hatch and trade Freddy before the season even starts; he could end up being pretty important within a few weeks. Enjoy the depth, it’s not a problem in March. ·

  86. Stoneburner March 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    lol, luis. Speaking or p-r-o-s-p-e-c-t-s, wonder if DJ’s command was very off or if the sinker was just dancing too much. Obviously not so on the HR pitch. Guess we will never know unless Patrick gives us a report.

    ********

    Yes – yes – that’s right fanboys – wax your poetics – talk about your plus plus Jose Ramirez changeups (if it was a plus plus – he would have one of the most amazing changeups in the games – a real Pedro in the making – but maybe you meant the slider) – yes – wax poetics and wait for your pinestripes of the plus reports and rely on those to come to another forum – build up your ego – and wax poetics about prospects and feel as if you are the one that broke the story about a propsect -or you called firsties on this guy or told people first about this prospect – yes – yes – form your click and speak your special language that makes you feel as if you are seeing what a scout sees – but when asked about – you just back off and say – hey I am just giving my opinion – but it is not an opinion the way it is originally meant and delivered – no -no – it is delivered as fact. Oh fanboy – who will you super hype next???

  87. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    “I think you are right. That’s the best course of action. I also think that things will get better as the season starts. But i have to recognize that some comments have gotten under my skin lately. And believe me, it takes a lot to get under my skin.”

    Luis, yes, you are very benevolent. But probably best to ignore the troll who keeps trying to control the discourse. Verdad?

  88. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    stuckey – I don’t appreciate nastiness at all. But I agree with you that using mental illness as an invective really rises above the garden-variety nastiness.

  89. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    Trisha,

    I gladly stand corrected

  90. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
    stuckey – I don’t appreciate nastiness at all. But I agree with you that using mental illness as an invective really rises above the garden-variety nastiness.
    ____
    See above and then decide.

  91. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    “Someone must have been so busy answering prayers for Joba Chamberlain, he/she or it didn’t have time for those 6 children killed in a house fire in WV…”

    stuckey, that’s really unkind of you. If you don’t believe in prayer, that’s fine. Don’t put down others who may.

  92. luis March 24th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Which facts are those Luis?

    ===================

    You are accusing one side of trolling….Isn’t it trolling what you did on two of your previous post?, very intelligently but trolling as well?

    Isn’t Stoneburner last post trolling too?

    Give me a break, JAP usually is only defending himself after being attacked. I may not agree on the way he does it, but he certainly didn’t started it. And yes he is my friend and have his back, every time. As well as Yankeefem’s.

  93. hardwired7 March 24th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    4 NYY March 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Pinatas will come in handy on Cinco De Mayo

    ——

    Fact

  94. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    TF,

    This a world of difference between critique and control. Not sure how there so often confused.

    Trisha,

    It is not intended to be unkind. It is intended to be a hard question about a very important issue in our society. I don’t assume people with such beliefs can’t confront hard questions. I in fact assume they’d welcome them.

    Why such extreme sensitivity over the issue?

    That there is a higher power that listens to prayers about a baseball players ankle but looks that other ways to the world’s daily horrors is a logical gap I’ve never been able to bridge. I’d invite any insight as to how someone else reconciles those 2 things.

    Take the assumption that I was being unkind on purpose. Is the question I raise without logical merit?

  95. luis March 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    “I think you are right. That’s the best course of action. I also think that things will get better as the season starts. But i have to recognize that some comments have gotten under my skin lately. And believe me, it takes a lot to get under my skin.”

    Luis, yes, you are very benevolent. But probably best to ignore the troll who keeps trying to control the discourse. Verdad?

    ======================================

    Yankeefem,

    Si es verdad. But there is a moment that enough is enough. You know that i always try to be open minded and very respectful. But this thing has to stop. Now we are the trolls because we dare to talk highly about prospects!! come on!. We were having a nice thread and here they come to ruin it, just like they ruined this morning thread. And we are the ones at fault?

  96. luis March 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    But hey, trolls will troll. Not much you can do about it except scroll past. In fact here comes one now…

    Prophetic.

  97. m March 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    The Globe had an article on what seems to be a growing rift between Valentine & Cherington.

    Valentine wants Iglesias over Aviles at SS. And Valentine is dubious about Bard.

    The writer reminded the reader that Valentine was not Cherington’s choice for manager.

    Hmm…

  98. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Luis,

    People coming here with drive-by posts (and trust me, it will get worse not better during the regular season) who we all agree are trolls are almost exclusively intending to “get under the skin” of Yankees fans by trying to ‘remind’ them of Montero’s ability and Pineda’s so-far issues and raise questions about the trade.

    Can you honestly tell me posters we don’t consider “trolls” have not been engaging in the same since ST started?

    Can you please explain to me the difference? I’m really asking and perhaps you will have a very good answer to that question that settles the issue and proves you correct and me mistaken.

  99. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    “Besides the trolls, you’re the biggest instigator on this blog so you giving blog etiquette suggestions is not only funny, but disingenuous BS.”

    what you’re saying is that i personally drive you crazy.

    i have no problem with that.

    i take it as a compliment that someone as closed minded as you appear to be dislikes me.

    it’s an open forum.

    get used to it.

    or not.

    your choice.

  100. Villa Nova-Ya March 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    The best news possible at this point for Joba.

    Continue the prayers. They seem to be working. :)

    ****

    I like that the closer we get to the regular season, the better the Yankees have been playing. Their pitching has been stellar.

    ****

    Make the scroll your best friend, people! LOL

  101. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Luis, I understand and agree, but there are no moderators on this site. It is like the island in Lord of the Flies. I think at this point the best policy is to just scroll past those whose hearts are not in the right place. This bizarre soap opera has never been about free and open debate but about a lack of good intentions on the part of some who are not here to earnestly commune as Yankee fans; they are here to cause trouble. That is their loss. Let’s enjoy those who are genuine.

  102. Villa Nova-Ya March 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    randy l -

    I do think the Yankees will say it the way you said – choose your extra-curricular activities wisely. That’s really all they can do.

  103. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Luis,

    You’re mistaken if you believe i meant everyone who likes Montero and didn’t like the trades is a troll. That wasn’t my point at all.

    But given Pineda’s velocity issues and report of being overweight and Montero hot start in ST, there HAVE been regulars here who have been using these facts to poke opponents with sticks.

    THAT is what I’m saying. I can’t agree with you if you’re arguing for purity on the con-side.

    And yes, it occurs on the other side too. And if Montero starts how slowly and Pineda hot the tide will turn the other way.

    And if you think I won’t be calling them out if and when it happens, you don’t know me well enough.

  104. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    stuckey, the way you phrased it was a shot. You did not come on and ask a question, one to which I certainly have no answer. And of course you know that and apparently want to have some kind of argumentative discourse about it. Perhaps there is a theologian here who will entertain you.

    I have faith in God and I also know that bad things happen in the world. It doesn’t shake my belief in prayer at all. Maybe God wanted those people home with Him.

    I’ll still pray for Joba’s recovery and will still believe those prayers are helping. I’ll also pray for you that you find peace in posting here. Truth.

  105. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Trisha, Let Alyosha Karamazov answer Stuckey. You do not have to. Keep praying for Joba.

  106. luis March 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Luis,

    People coming here with drive-by posts (and trust me, it will get worse not better during the regular season) who we all agree are trolls are almost exclusively intending to “get under the skin” of Yankees fans by trying to ‘remind’ them of Montero’s ability and Pineda’s so-far issues and raise questions about the trade.

    Can you honestly tell me posters we don’t consider “trolls” have not been engaging in the same since ST started?

    Can you please explain to me the difference? I’m really asking and perhaps you will have a very good answer to that question that settles the issue and proves you correct and me mistaken.

    =================================

    Listen Stuckey….I just want to be left alone and be allowed to interact peacefully with other posters. I want those unwarranted attacks to stop. I am not interested in discovering the origins of the universe, just to be allowed to interact peacefully.

    You are entitled to your opinion, but at the same time you should respect others opinions and stop the tangential attacks on certain posters.

  107. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    “what you’re saying is that i personally drive you crazy.”

    Actually, I think it’s me that drives you crazy since you’ve been trying to engage me in discussion all day long.

    Anyhow, what I stated about you is so true do deal with it or not. I don’t care as you’re just a fly in the ointment this blog has to overcome to get back to what it use to be discussion-wise.

  108. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    YF – it’s exactly what I will do. I will continue to pray for Joba.

    And now something equally important – my niece wants me to read a poem to her.

    BBL.

    :)

  109. Ys Guy March 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    i see its been another kumbaya day on the lohud! :)

    and it’s somebody’s birthday…HB you know who you are….

  110. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    stoneburner-

    do you have a baseball point?

    if so what is it?

  111. yankeefeminista March 24th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    :arrow:

  112. Duh Innings March 25th, 2012 at 3:25 am

    ‘Glad to see Joba is out of the hospital already. I hope he can pitch for the Yankees again and this is the second and last dumb thing he does (after the DUI arrest.) Maybe this stunt he pulled will make him put things in perspective and the injury by trampoline is symbolic of the command he should give himself “Grow up.” Spare me that I’m getting on him for playing with his kid and being a father cuz I’m not, I’m annoyed that he got seriously (almost mortally) injured doing a dumb thing which jumping on a trampoline while rehabbing is, but what’s done is done and in the end I want to see him succeed with the Yanks (like he’s done at times – the guy does have a World Series ring) as I like his attitude. I’ve never got from him that he was angry or upset over his role. He’s been a team player. He just needs to wise up. That said, I think it’s unrealistic for him to say he’ll be back in July as well as it could be self-imposed false hope. The Yanks are wisely not buying into that return time.

    Joba could miss the entire 2012 season and he needs to be told that ASAP so he doesn’t let himself down if he doesn’t make it back at any point this year for it could be devastating to him mentally if he doesn’t make it back. The way I see it, him saying he’ll be back in July means he’ll be back no sooner than September. If he made it back in September, I say let him face at least one batter at Yankee Stadium so he can receive a standing ovation and hold that memory into the 2013 season and forever. If he still can’t pitch, let him sit in the dugout in September so he’s at least in uniform surrounded by teammates able to get a bird’s eye view of batters for future reference.

    One dilemma the Yanks have is do they pick up his $1.675M contract for 2012 or not offer him one? I think they should offer him that across two years so he still makes it and has money coming in this year and next ($837,500 per year.) When you think about it, he’d have made that for only June or July 2012 on anyway, so I’d look at it as paying him the same only for 2013. If he came back in early 2013, he’d actually pitch more for that money than he would’ve this year. I think Joba loves the Yankees so much he’d take the $837,500 a year. Also getting him to take $837,500 for 2012 means the Yanks would free up that much to sign someone or take on salary.

    Remember, the Yanks gave 33-year old Jon Lieber a two-year $3.5M contract to pitch for the second year only as he spent the entire first year rehabbing. With all due respect to Lieber who had a nice 2004 for the Yanks – he was ace-like out of the gate – he didn’t have nearly as much upside as Joba still has.

    Joba turns 27 this September thus still has 3.5 years left until he turns 30, and 30 is by no means old for a reliever either. He’s probably set for life between his signng bonus and money earned with the Yanks so he has to be patient and do what he has to do to get back so he can make more money. Three or four more years and he should be set for life. Remember, you not only want to come back to pitch and enjoy the game but you want to make enough money where you’ll never have to worry about money again. You also probably want to receive the nice pension you get if you play for a decade and Joba’s been in the bigs since late 2007 so he has a way’s to go to qualify for that pension and not a big window of time to do that anymore.

    Get Well & Get Back, Joba!!!

  113. Duh Innings March 25th, 2012 at 3:32 am

    Joba has earned $2,710,550 in salary, according to Baseball Reference, so he’s made $3,810,550 total including his $1.1M signing bonus in 2006. Assuming he’s made half that after taxes, he’s earned $1,905,275 after taxes minus what he’s spent. He’s still set for life as long as he grows x amount of that money. Anything he does after that is gravy.

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