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Pregame notes: Chamberlain eyeing best-case scenario

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 24, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joba Chamberlain could be released from the hospital as early as today, and while much of the focus has been on the worst-case scenario for his dislocated ankle, it seems we now have an idea of the best-case scenario. Yesterday Chamberlain told Brian Cashman that he’s hoping to be on a mound by July.

“That’s what he told me the doctors were telling him,” Cashman said.

That wouldn’t be a big league mound, but it seems the most optimistic situation is that Chamberlain could be throwing bullpens by the middle of the season. In theory, that means this season is not completely ruled out. But all of this is theoretical at this point. There’s not nearly enough information to know how quickly or how completely Chamberlain will heal. For now, the risk of infection is a signficant concern, but if the doctors are willing to let him out of the hospital, that would be a good sign.

“If he gets out today or tomorroow, that would be extremely positive,” Cashman said.

• Three roster cuts this morning: Dellin Betances was optioned to Triple-A. Mike O’Connor and Juan Cedeno were reassigned to minor league camp.

• Dave Robertson is scheduled to pitch in Sunday’s game. It will be only his second appearance of the spring, and his first since bruising his right foot.

• The upcoming rotation:

Sunday: Michael Pineda
Monday: Phil Hughes (minor league complex)
Tuesday: CC Sabathia
Wednesday: Hiroki Kuroda
Thursday: Ivan Nova (minor league complex, likely Freddy Garcia in big leagues)

• Girardi said he doesn’t feel any need to make a rotation decision before the third or fourth of April. “You’re not forced to,” he said. To him, it doesn’t matter how the guys lineup after Sabathia, and Sabathia is already lined up for Opening Day.

• Garcia is expected to go 60-65 pitches today. “You worry about a little rust and (lack of) location,” Girardi said. “His hand looks pretty good, but we’re not going to really know until he gets out there.”

• Despite the fact D.J. Mitchell, David Phelps, George Kontos and Brandon Laird have been optioned to Triple-A for several days now, they have yet to report to the minor league complex. They’re still physically in big league camp, they’ve just techincally been optioned down.

• Sabathia threw a side today. Betances, Nova, Kuroda, Adam Warren and Andy Pettitte are throwing sides tomorrow. Brad Meyers has a batting practice tomorrow.

• Up from the minor league complex today: Preston Claiborne, Sean Black, Brandon Braboy, Addison Maruszak, Jose Pirela, Austin Krum and Rob Segedin.

• Today’s available pitchers: Freddy Garcia, D.J. Mitchell, Boone Logan, Cesar Cabral, Juan Cedeno, Mike O’Connor, Kevin Whelan, George Kontos, Preston Claiborne, Sean Black, Brandon Braboy.

• Today’s second string: C Jose Gil, 1B Brandon Laird, 2B Jayson Nix, SS Bill Hall, 3B Addison Maruszak, LF Dewayne Wise, CF Austin Krum, RF none, DH Justin Maxwell

UPDATE, 12:07 p.m.: Here’s the Tiger’s lineup.

Austin Jackson CF
Brennan Boesch RF
Don Kelly 3B
Prince Fielder 1B
Delmon Young LF
Alex Avila C
Ryan Raburn DH
Jhonny Peralta SS
Brandon Inge 2B

Associated Press photo

 
 

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85 Responses to “Pregame notes: Chamberlain eyeing best-case scenario”

  1. mick March 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    much ado about nothing?

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    “Yesterday Chamberlain told Brian Cashman that he’s hoping to be on a mound by July.

    “That’s what he told me the doctors were telling him,” Cashman said.”

    :)

    That’s our boy!!!

  3. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    That’s a lot better news for Joba. IMO, I don’t think he’s a former Yankee until after the 2013 season.

  4. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Pineda on YES again tomorrow.

  5. mick March 24th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    tris, your optimism has buoyed Joba…good job!

  6. Best To Ever Do It March 24th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    “Yesterday Chamberlain told Brian Cashman that he’s hoping to be on a mound by July.

    —————————-

    Got to love his heart. It’s not going to happen but you have to admire his desire.

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    mick – :lol:

    Thanks! Happy to take credit for good things.

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    “It’s not going to happen”

    ????????

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    You mean his doctors intentionally lied to him?

    Hmmm.

    ;)

  10. mick March 24th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    # mick March 24th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    What randy and trisha are trying to say is that it’s all good.
    There is too much hatred on this board, it seems to be the engine that stimulates discussion.
    We all have our opinions and they are all valid.
    The problem is that some think they know better…
    =================================
    Am I right about this?

  11. mick March 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Sounds like Joba can get back to tweeting real soon…

  12. yanks61 March 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    DePaula is flying into Tampa today for his physical.

    —————————————————————-

    Terrific news – been waiting too long for this!

    See, Crawdaddy and I love the prospects, too!

    Seriously, I’m glad for him and for the Yanks. But if he becomes a great big star in the making, even a top five prospect, and the Yanks want to trade him for Montero, I won’t shed a tear:) It’s a business and these guys are inordinately well paid kids.

    As I said on the last thread, everyone, I’m sure, wishes nothing but the best for Joba. And if anyone – anyone – can overcome what are sure to be enormous odds, then he’s the boy to do it. Get well, Joba!

  13. mick March 24th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    yanks61

    you have the right perspective. it’s one thing to lament what you think is a bad trade but to constantly harp on it is obnoxious and is what turns people off.
    those that harp feel they have this right, and they do, but others also have the right to voice their opinions . this is where the conflict arises.

  14. Best To Ever Do It March 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    mick March 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Sounds like Joba can get back to tweeting real soon…

    ————————

    Yea I’m sure that’s his main concern.

  15. Gary March 24th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    It’s not going to happen.

  16. GregD March 24th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Joba’s injury is another reminder that you can’t have too much pitching….everyone is talking about the Yanks trading one of their 7 starters…..I think the situation will work itself out……..

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Gary, since none of us has the real information on his injury and exactly what happened, how it is healing up already, and the MRIs, Xrays, etc. except for his doctors, and since he said his doctors told him that it is possible that he could be back on the mound by July, why not go for the gold rather than the bronze!

    I think we should all cheer on the July date. You never know what positive energy can do to affect the universe.

    :)

  18. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Right now, the immediate concern for Joba is for his injury not getting an infection.

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Craw – I think Joba’s going to beat this in style. Just a feeling. Hope I’m right.

  20. Tar March 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    “Instead, we have here a whole chorus of moaners who are really more interested in seeing their fav boy toys play in the Stadium than they are in the Yanks putting together the best combination of players to win.”

    Yanks61

    Instead, we have here a whole chorus of moaners who are really more interested in seeing that we don’t post about something we strongly disagree with. They are more interested in “towing the company line” than having the best combination of players it takes to win.

    It can work both ways.

    Don’t you think a valid reason for the “moaning” is that the “moaners” want to see the Yankees WIN. And the best way to accomplish this is to NOT TRADE “the best combination of players (it takes) to win.”

    I have no emotional attachment to Montero, But I think his bat gives the team a much better chance at winning, especially over the long haul. I accept the trade, hope Pineda is a beast, but I don’t like it.

    This is a Yankee blog and that was a very important trade that happened THIS OFF SEASON. Personally I am getting tired of people trying to tell other people what Yankee topics they can talk about, and what they can’t.

    Maybe you and Craw can provide a list of acceptable “non moaning” topics.

  21. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Tar,

    You’re not really a moaner are you?

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Tar – it’s a tough one because of course it boils down to where one is at with the whole thing. Kind of. I will admit that I am tired of the moaning and groaning about it – and I consider one of the groaners to be a really good forum friend. But I think it has more to do with my low tolerance for moaning and groaning anyway. ;)

    I was blindsided by the trade and really thought that he’d never be traded. The fact that I’m excited about Pineda made it a little more bearable, and the fact that I was able to put it into a perspective that made sense to me ended up sealing the deal. Still sick that he’s gone, but I’m able to be pragmatic about it at this point and still believe the Yanks will be okay without him.

    I have to say that seeing the forum slogged down with the constant bemoaning almost feels like personal karma to me and that’s probably why I don’t say too much about it. I put an entire forum through the same kind of thing when Boomer was traded and it kind of makes me cringe at this point – if you know what I mean.

    Since I went through it I can understand better others going through it. But I hope others learn as quickly as I did that it’s not worth the bemoaning, if for no other reason than it’s a waste of good energy and also has the propensity to “depress” a forum.

    JMO

  23. rm March 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am

    This id terrific news. Its only a best case scenario and best case scenarios don’t alway happen but it is good to know that it is possible e will be pitching at some level before the end of the year. It might even give him a better perspective and make ultiately him a better pitcher. What doesn’t kill you often makes you stronger. Good Luck and best wishes for Joba.

  24. Crawdaddy March 24th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    We still have to wait on the CT scan and MRI results for Joba along with the potential infection possibility.

  25. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    I think the moving on is a good thing and I think Rich in NJ is a good example of it. I think he was as much against the trade as anyone on here, but it seems he has taken the approach that he has resigned himself to it and is looking forward. (If I am inaccurately characterizing Rich, I apologize and of course look forward to his correcting it.)

  26. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    “This is a Yankee blog and that was a very important trade that happened THIS OFF SEASON. Personally I am getting tired of people trying to tell other people what Yankee topics they can talk about, and what they can’t. ”

    _________________________________

    I’ll say it again. It is very, very clear THIS is what this issue is about now, and has been for some time now.

    This is no longer about Montero. The trade is now a tool in a big meta thread.

    This is about what Tar just clearly illustrated.

    This a battle of defiance.

    Which is all fine. It’s allowed. But people should recognize it for what is really is

    That said. I think a good, spirited, even rough-and-tumble debate is good and entertaining. But there is one particular poster who doesn’t seem to have boundaries. Who is more quick and extreme in ratcheting up the hyperbolic bile. Who consistently takes to accusing those who disagree with him of stalking and mental illness, which is belittling and forum lowest-common-denominator enough as is, but even more distasteful to those who’ve had friends or family deal with these issues in real life.

    And yes, I’m certainly talking about you, J.AP.

    Now J.AP has allies because of his positions on Montero and Girardi and prospects and the Yankees FO and that’s fine and perfectly normal.

    But I don’t know why this consistent conduct is accepted and excused, by anyone.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    “We still have to wait on the CT scan and MRI results for Joba along with the potential infection possibility”

    Craw, Joba definitely will not be released until the CT and MRI results are back. I guess infection can happen at any time so that may remain an on-going concern, but I would also guess that they have pumped him with IV antibiotics and will continue him on strong antibiotics for quite a while to come. He’ll have to be vigilant about keeping the wound clean. Hopefully he’ll have visiting nurses and all that kind of thing. That improves the chances for success.

  28. Gary March 24th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Gary, since none of us has the real information on his injury and exactly what happened, how it is healing up already, and the MRIs, Xrays, etc. except for his doctors, and since he said his doctors told him that it is possible that he could be back on the mound by July, why not go for the gold rather than the bronze!

    I think we should all cheer on the July date. You never know what positive energy can do to affect the universe.

    __________________________________________________________________________

    Trisha, do have a bit of background since I went through the whole ankle thing for over a period of a year. I guess he had a total ankle dislocation with signifcant loss of blood and probably damage to the supporting ligaments and tendons. We have to remember that the joint is held together by those supporting elements and if they are stretched or damaged the joint isn’t held together the way it needs to be. I remember in my case which was much less of a thing than his I could put no weight on it for 3 months and then went through considerable discomfort for the next 9 mths daily, and I wasn’t pushing off the pitching rubber, I was just trying to walk.

    Patients always ask for the best case senario, they are less interested in the worst or the realistic best medical guess. The answer lies somewhere usually in between, that’s simply why I’m saying the best case isn’t going to happen. Could be proven wrong though. I think he should go forward with optomism, it’s a critical part of the healing process.

    Yanks I’m sure aren’t depending on what Joba says, they probably already have an initial opinion for their staff Orthoped’s, and I’m quite certain that by the middle of the week they will have a couple more opinions. Whatever decisions need to or will be made will rest on those expert opinions. Probably we won’t hear them though, just the way it is.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Stuckey, I consider J Al to be a very good forum friend. I am against any kind of forum nastiness and belittling, it doesn’t matter who does it. And if I’ve resorted to it, I absolutely apologize. So I will make no excuse for it. I don’t think personal insult has any place on the forum and I don’t think there is any need for it.

  30. Ys Guy March 24th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    that’ll be the last time they option betances!

  31. Tom in N.J. March 24th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    DavidWaldstein Brian Cashman visited Joba Chamberlain in the hospital and Chamberlain told him there was a chance he could be released today.

  32. Gary March 24th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    “We still have to wait on the CT scan and MRI results for Joba along with the potential infection possibility”

    Craw, Joba definitely will not be released until the CT and MRI results are back. I guess infection can happen at any time so that may remain an on-going concern, but I would also guess that they have pumped him with IV antibiotics and will continue him on strong antibiotics for quite a while to come. He’ll have to be vigilant about keeping the wound clean. Hopefully he’ll have visiting nurses and all that kind of thing. That improves the chances for success.

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Trishia, it’s common practice now to send patients with infections home with a port and have both the family and the visiting nurse come to the house for ongoing administrations and care. We have had a couple of Mersa situations with my dad and that’s the routine, just up to the body as to how well it responds.

  33. BD (Boston Dave) March 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Moaning and groaning? Ok

    Moaning and groaning about the same thing for months? Ehh

    Moaning and groaning about it all season? Please no.

    Does anyone really think we won’t have nightly updates for every single Montero AB?

    At what point is it enough?

    That’s all.

  34. BD (Boston Dave) March 24th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    And GREAT news for Joba!

    Whether he pitches or not, it sounded like it could have been much much worse at this point.

  35. Gary March 24th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    BD (Boston Dave) March 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Moaning and groaning? Ok

    Moaning and groaning about the same thing for months? Ehh

    Moaning and groaning about it all season? Please no.

    Does anyone really think we won’t have nightly updates for every single Montero AB?

    At what point is it enough?

    That’s all.

    _________________________________________________________________________

    I forgot about Montero long ago. I did predict and I do agree with you that we’d hear about it everyday.

  36. Tar March 24th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Great news for Joba.

    “But I think it has more to do with my low tolerance for moaning and groaning anyway. ”

    Trish

    I do get that. You should see me during game threads. :shock:

    But we all have to be better at skipping posts, or (as I think it was Doreen who said it) not hitting the submit comment button. If the issue is one person direct it at that one person. I hated the trade, and after reading Yank61 posts I guess I am now a moaner. And one who is more interested in being right than the Yankees winning, thats absurd.

    People moaning at the moaners is just a ridiculous case of the “dog chasing it’s tail”.

    I also don’t get the condemnation at someone who feels in a particular way (positive) about an ex Yankee player. The man was into Montero as a Yankee player, so what. Condemn him for strong feelings about him being traded, I don’t agree and would feel that way no matter what side of the trade I am on.

    Let it go, let people have their say and this will all resolve itself a lot quicker.

  37. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Trisha, if you do consider this person a very good forum friend, then I suggest taking a hard look at his 9:29am post from last thread.

    Using mental illness (which is not the fault of anyone afflicted) as a social slur is genuinely ignorant and smallminded.

    We would not accept anyone here using race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation or religion as means to smear and insult someone over a disagreement over baseball, so why is “mental illness” still on the “that’s cool with me” list?

    J.AP continues to turn down that road when the debate gets heated to a certain point (which with him is often). He uses mental illness as a consistent means of dismissing and belittling anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

    He uses it as an invective.

    Why is that okay?

  38. Rich in NJ March 24th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    I hope this becomes a minor footnote in Joba’s long Yankees career.

  39. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Tar, I have no difficulty whatsoever in posters having a deep attachment to Montero and really feeling upset about his being traded. I felt upset about his being traded. It’s all of the continual craziness that sometimes continues to accompany it. He was traded better than two months ago. To read this forum sometimes you’d think it happened a day before!

    To each her or his own I guess.

  40. BD (Boston Dave) March 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Heck, when the Yanks traded AJax and Granderson was struggling, we even heard about that every night.

    AJax was hitting .300 and Granderson stunk. Every. Night.

    That sort of “Cashman sucks. Granderson is a bum. Bring back AJax.” moaning and groaning didn’t add anything to the blog. JMO though.

  41. BD (Boston Dave) March 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Rich,

    No doubt. Agreed.

  42. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    stuckey, I am not saying it is okay. I have already said that I don’t excuse anyone, myself included, who resorts to personal insult, nastiness, and belittling. I don’t think it’s right, and I don’t think it’s necessary.

    That said, I consider J Al to be a very good forum friend. I would hope that he would try to find a way to communicate without resorting to insult, just the way I hope that for anyone who posts here.

    There are people who consider me to be a forum friend and I’m sure I’ve let them down at times by some of the things I’ve posted. But they haven’t run from my friendship because of it.

    Thanks forum friends.

    :)

  43. m March 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Sigh.

  44. Tar March 24th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Trish

    I know where you’re coming from. I addressed you, but my comments were directed at others. Sorry

  45. Tar March 24th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    “I will still be here though – pushing back – as the fan boys can be dangerous – especially if the prospects begin to believe the hype themselves before the results are actually earned. .

    Stucky I’m curious what do you make of that comment?

  46. DONNYBROOK March 24th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Glad the teeth-nashing is beginning to subside concerning Chamberlain. I’m no Doc, but this injury is Not life-threatening, and bottom-line, THAT should be the only concern. Chamberlain will shortly have his health back, he’s got his family, and he’s a millionaire. This aint Lou Gehrig calmly saying he “gotta bad break” while on Death’s Door. Perspective, pertaining to life, is what the journey is supposed to be about.

  47. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Trisha,

    General insults, nastiness and belittling really isn’t the point. They happens everyday here and it’s to be expected, if not admired and promoted.

    But if someone were to attack your position on baseball or your conduct in a thread because you are a woman, or if someone was attacked for being “too gay”, there’d be widespread outrage.

    Mental illness, we just fold it up into general “nastiness”, and bypass the specific ignorance of it, because its still on the socially-acceptable list, which is the point I’m making.

  48. m March 24th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    People take stuff too personally, even when they’re not being addressed. If you feel the need to lash out and get nasty in response to a person making a comment in general, then those comments surely hit close to home.

  49. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    This article sums up the Montero-Pineda trade. Folks, the NYY have been duped:

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/b.....ou-thought

  50. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    “Stucky I’m curious what do you make of that comment?”

    Exactly as I described, the defiant ying to the defiant yang.

    I’m not saying this doesn’t go both ways.

    I don’t think purity should be the defining measure here – that if you can find some people displaying defiance on both sides, it cancels out the observation.

    The one empirical part of this equation is it HAS been three months. It HAS been debated to death. VERY little new is ever added to the discussion. Who would disagree with this?

    The question of WHY the topic continues to live like it does it a fair and relevant question.

    Your question, IMO, is as good an answer of any (of which there are likely several). People on one side don’t like be told what they should or should not be talking about it, so it’s human nature to want to demonstrate that no one CAN make that choice for them.

    If I saw any genuine discussion between two huge opponents of the trade say …. discussing some attribute Montero was displaying as an everyday pro, that’s one thing. But any reasonable person knows what the intent of a drive-by post citing a tweet about how long his latest homerun was hit, or his 2 for 3 day with a walk and double, is all about.

  51. mick March 24th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    DavidWaldstein Brian Cashman visited Joba Chamberlain in the hospital and Chamberlain told him there was a chance he could be released today.
    ============================
    Is this Joba’s 1st official Tweet post accident?

  52. BD (Boston Dave) March 24th, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    “ESPN’s Jim Bowden reports the Angels are “suddenly the front-runner” for free agent Roy Oswalt.

    The Red Sox ”remain in the picture,” while the Rangers and Cardinals are no longer considered realistic destinations.”

  53. m March 24th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Oswald must be looking to pitch for a (potential) winner.

    Pineda still striking out more than a pitcher per inning, even with his diminished velocity.

    Would I like Montero back? Yes. But it’s done. DONE!

    But I can understand that Heyman is just doing his job

  54. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    ” And so far, the Mariners’ end of the trade looks pretty darned good.”

    We all know Montero is a DH and 100% going to tear the cover off of the ball. On the other hand, Pineda, shows up to camp 20 lbs overweight, throwing as fast as a 40 year old Andy Pettitte, and not used to the New York sewer scrutiny that is going to come at him like a freight train when he doesn’t meet expectations. It’s going to be ugly…mark my words.

  55. DaSaint007 March 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Glad to hear that Joba received some good news. I’m sure his son will be thrilled to have daddy back home after witnessing that traumatic experience. Hopefully, his ankle will heal completely to the point where he’s as effective as before, as it would certainly be a shame if another obstacle derails his dreams. Whether its the 2012 or 2013 season, a comeback will be remarkable and well-earned.

    Good luck Joba.

  56. mick March 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    what exactly is heyman’s job?

  57. Pat M. March 24th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    In the think the heat in Atlanta is frying one’s brain

  58. m March 24th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Batter per inning.

  59. Tar March 24th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    “The question of WHY the topic continues to live like it does it a fair and relevant question.”

    Both sides are guilty, but the Monteroista’s have the right of free speech on their side. As for the time limit of 3 months being too long, that is subjective and in the eye of the beholder, again free speech.

    Thank you for answering. I think we are in agreement on most of this issue.

    Have to run, Have a nice day everybody.

  60. m March 24th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    To embarrass himself? Stare into the crystal ball? Tweet fast food restaurant reviews?

  61. BD (Boston Dave) March 24th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    “Both sides are guilty, but the Monteroista’s have the right of free speech on their side.”

    ——–

    so do Red Sox trolls.

    fun.

  62. mick March 24th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    i thought heyman’s job was to assist boras, my bad.

  63. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    “a batter per inning”

    Too funny. We know Jesus can hit. He hit in September during crunch time when each hit counts a little bit more than a first half fluke 2011 Pineda pitching performance. The Mariners got the better end of this deal. Pineda learned of the trade and most stressed out hence gaining 20 lbs. One batter per inning is a laugh in spring training lol.

  64. m March 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    Monteronistas!

    Just kidding.

    Have a nice afternoon, everyone!

  65. mick March 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    how do we not know that campos won’t end up being the key to this deal?

  66. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Tar,

    As always, this is not an issue of right. We agree, the right exists and I’d defend that to the end.

    The REAL practical question is why?

    Why people continue to exercise this right.

    I’ve explained why I think this continues. Citing the “right” only suggests to me I’ve reached the correct conclusion.

  67. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    And the last 20 minutes or so highlights a question I’ve asked previously – does it mean anything one side of this debate has some much in common on the topic with known forum trolls?

  68. mick March 24th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    hey…some people actually like and need to walk around with their hair on fire.
    it is their “right.”
    right?

  69. m March 24th, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    That may be a laugh. But let’s wait and see, k? Because that’s what reasonable people do. The point I was trying to make (in case you totally missed it) is that he can still pitch despite his decreased velocity. Just like Montero can still play, even though he’s not catching.

    But stare at your snapshot in time. I’m not on Montero/Pineda watch. I’m going to enjoy watching the Yankees play.

  70. mick March 24th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    on the other hand some people think it is their right to write.
    i myself write with my right hand.
    now david wright is another matter.
    no need to be self-right-eous though…

  71. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 24th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Ok wait and see but when you know in your heart that Jesus is the real deal and not a flash in the pan, it makes it difficult to trust Pineda when he comes in to camp out of shape. That is a no no plain and simple.

    Hopefully Campos is the key to the deal as others have said.

  72. randy l. March 24th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    I honestly am so uninterested in 90% of what’s on this blog and do not read the posts

    Most of this is my personal preference.
    I am amazed that some people find it objectionable that some people want to talk about montero when these same people are taking about the Knicks, giants, linsanity,and macadamia nuts in Hawaii

    Who gives a crap what people don’t talk about if they are minding their own business
    If someone is posting directly at someone that’s another story

    But seriously if everyone wants to stop talking about their personal interests that are directly related to the Yankees maybe I’d pay attention to them saying ” no more montero “

  73. stuckey March 24th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    randy, question:

    When was the last time 2 or more fans of Montero had a genuine discussion about Montero.

    Can you remind me when it was and what the discussion was about?

  74. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    No way to watch or listen to the game today, am I correct?

  75. mick March 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    …in here, most feel it’s their right to be right.

  76. m March 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    If the blog talked about mac nuts for months on end and people got nasty with each other over it. And if certain people tried their best to discredit mac nuts because they preferred the peanuts that were just traded away even though mac nuts are very good, then yes. I would throw my hands up and say, “no mas!”. ;)

    Point taken, randy l. Just be sure to take your own advice and scroll past the posts you don’t like. And stay out of other people’s conversations. :P

  77. Gary March 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Here I am going up to Tampa tomm for the game and so many are throwing Pineda under the bus. Another poster made a great comment it was two months ago, why keep this Montero thing going he’s playing for the other guys. Who cares

  78. Bronx Jeers March 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    This game exists only in the abstract to those not at the game.

  79. Pat M. March 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Earlier there was a brief conversation about bone injuries, infections and or surgeries…….I too was diagnosed with Avascular necrosis in my left hip……It required a total hip replacement, I was 43….Had it replaced again at 47 and just 3 years ago a complete revision which is basically more parts and bone graphing……..Not an enjoyable encounter

  80. Pat M. March 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Gary….Both guys are having good camps and that should carry over to their seasons…..Pressure is on both guys, they’re young and there’s great expectations for both….

  81. Gary March 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Randy, I love talking about the Giants, especially after they beat the Pats again and won the World Championship :-)

    I’ll be supporting the Yanks tomm from the get go starting with the $10 parking, that will then build into lunch at the game. ATM here I come.

  82. Gary March 24th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Pat M. March 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Earlier there was a brief conversation about bone injuries, infections and or surgeries…….I too was diagnosed with Avascular necrosis in my left hip……It required a total hip replacement, I was 43….Had it replaced again at 47 and just 3 years ago a complete revision which is basically more parts and bone graphing……..Not an enjoyable encounter

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Pat, there is potentially alot more to it than what Joba is saying to Cash. Joba is telling Cash what he wants him to hear or what Joba himself wants to believe. The Yanks aren’t dumb, they have their med staff on it and I suspect they get reports this week if not already. A business will always look to the facts and data they get from a experienced experts and people they trust. I don’t know if there is much data out there for a pitcher coming back from a total dislocation of his ankle and pitching again. I think we are in uncharted waters, Maybe the bloody sock is going to return.

    From what I gather from the severity of the injury it’s sounds like a similar injury to what you see these ski’ers suffer. For most of them it’s a long rehab time if they come back at all.

  83. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Gary, enjoy the hell out of that game. You are going to see a phenom on that mound. Yes, that’s my opinion, but I am not alone in that opinion. I envy you because you will be able to say “I saw him when…”

    Pineda is the real deal. Don’t be distracted by naysayers. And if a day should come when I have to say I called it wrong on Pineda, I’ll say it. But I don’t anticipate it, and it sure isn’t here now!

    :)

  84. luis March 24th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Hello everyone,

    Trisha,

    I consider you a very good forum friend too. ;) Very good posts today and yesterday.

    Yank61,Craw,Stone,

    What i object is the unwarranted attacks, especially when people are commenting on other things.You are not helping with the flow of conversation of the blog. Everyone has a right to follow the Yankees any way they see fit. I am a prospect huger and i am proud of it, i love to talk about the baby bombers and discuss about them. But in the end i am a Yankee fan above everything else, if we share that same love, why not show a little respect to your fellow Yankee Fans?. I think BD is a very good example of how to do things, he may not agree with me sometimes, but he is always respectful. Tar is another good example.

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 24th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Luis, I think you yourself are an excellent example. You are always willing to have an open mind and you have total respect for what the other poster may be saying.


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