Romine suffers setback
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 28, 2012 
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Austin Romine has suffered a setback in his recovery from a back injury and likely won’t be ready for the start of the Triple-A season.
Having already missed every spring training game, Romine was finally going through drills again when he felt a “little pinch” in his back. Joe Girardi wasn’t sure whether it happened Monday or Tuesday, but it’s clearly bad news for the Yankees catching prospect.
“I think it’s going to be hard for him to start on time,” Girardi said.
Romine has been dealing with back issues since last season, and he was shutdown early this spring because of inflammation in his back. Long after Romine reported that the soreness had gone, the Yankees kept him on a rehab and treatment program in an attempt to get rid of the problem for good. He seemed to be making progress until this week.
“He doesn’t feel great,” Girardi said.
The Romine setback would seem to explain today’s announcement that the Yankees have claimed catcher Craig Tatum off waivers from the Diamondbacks. Tatum seems to replace Romine in terms of upper-level catching depth.
UPDATE, 4:35 p.m.: Here’s an unexpected twist: A Yankees source just told me Tatum is out of options, meaning he can’t be sent to Triple-A.
Ugh
Looks like Gil and Tatum will get plenty of upper level playing time in the foreseeable future.
wonder if the Cust signing signals a move for Vazquez?
Makes the Montero trade look all that much better, doesn’t it?
As someone that suffers from chronic back problems (which derailed my athletic abilities) I feel terrible for Romine. It can be so frustrating since you feel like you are helpless to resolve the problems. Hopefully he will get past this and get into the AAA season and have a successful jump.
Pretty awesome how Kuroda threw harder later in his start than at the beginning ……
“Jesus” speed Gary Sanchez!
Not surprised; Romine’s back has been an issue for awhile, going back to last season. Hopefully, he can take all the time he needs to strengthen it enough so that it isn’t a chronic issue going forward.
GreenBeret7 March 28th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
wonder if the Cust signing signals a move for Vazquez?
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More likely has to do with Russ Branyan
Just found out Tatum is out of options. That leaves me kind of stumped on this move.
stuckey – You seem to be confusing what I think the Yankee starters are capable of with what I think the correct way to run a pitching rotation is.
Is Cust out of options, also, Chad? I guess the Yanks figure if they got Tatum on waivers after having the last shot at him, they figure they can get him through waivers this time.
fiveironfromfenway March 28th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
“Jesus” speed Gary Sanchez!
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Amen. He does seem to be quantum leaping, ever since the end of last season.
Romine has had a tough time. Loses his cousin in combat, with whom he was very close, and now seems to have a nagging health issue. Sucks for the kid.
the only thing tatum does better than cervelli is throw so it doesn’t look like he’d be replacing him.
Makes the Montero trade look all that much better, doesn’t it?
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Who was Montero to stand in the way of Cashman’s “dream”.
Irreverent Discourse March 28th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Probably get 2 extra starts since AS break might provide another
GreenBeret7 March 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm e
Is Cust out of options, also, Chad?
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Cust is a minor league deal. Wouldn’t need options to have him start the season in the minors.
ID, not at all.
I’m just illustrating the resulting correlation.
Your proposal, per your own projections, would redistribute (not add or subtract) 1/3rd to 2/3rds of a bullpen inning pitched per one trip through the rotation.
If you think that’s a gain worthy of the shuffle you propose, you’re entitled.
Thanks, Chad. Guess I need to study those oh so easy rules.
Chad Jennings March 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Just found out Tatum is out of options. That leaves me kind of stumped on this move.
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Maybe a deal involving Cervelli?
randy l. March 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
the only thing tatum does better than cervelli is throw so it doesn’t look like he’d be replacing him.
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Unless the Yankees have an offer on the table that makes a lot of sense for them involving Cervelli.
It could also be that the Yankees will try to slip Tatum through waivers themselves. To get to the Yankees he had to fall pretty far in the first place.
Chip March 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
What would Cervelli, Pena & Maxwell bring?
Hopefully, he can take all the time he needs to strengthen it enough so that it isn’t a chronic issue going forward.
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Hard to imagine it won’t be, and this speaking as someone who tweeked their back once in high school and is still hit with periods of literally not being able to walk.
RayVT March 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Chip March 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
What would Cervelli, Pena & Maxwell bring?
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Dom Brown….or……Alex FRios.
Do we know if its muscular or structural?
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GreenBeret7 March 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I wonder if Astros have someone! Maybe C Lee?
RayVT March 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Chip March 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
What would Cervelli, Pena & Maxwell bring?
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Don’t know. I do know that before he got hurt last year the Yankees and Pirates had a deal on the table of Cervelli for RHP Mike Lincoln.
RayVT March 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
GreenBeret7 March 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I wonder if Astros have someone! Maybe C Lee?
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Afternoon, Ray. Maybe is all Houston cared about was unloading all of Lee’s contract.
The Tatum move is a head scratcher. I’d much rather have Cervelli as my backup.
With all of the heat Cervelli gets, he does have a knack for knocking in runs in limited at bats.
Hello GB! I wonder if Cervelli is okay?
cervelli has concussion issues. maybe tatum is a better option as a back up catcher.
gotta hope the romine thing is just a temporary setback and not chronic. hurt backs and all that squatting is never any good.
seems like the trade winds are blowing….
Ray, as far as I know, Cervelli’s healthy. He’s been playing in some minor league games to get more at bats. He’s likely to get a few more this year with Girardi expected to rest Martin a little more often early in the season.
Megamillions up to 476 million dollars.
Bret,
Might have to invest a buck for Friday’s drawing.
One of the best things on offense to see this ST besides the health and bats of jeter and Rodriguez is the number of times that Teixeira has gone to the opposite field and hitting it hard.
TomInGA, in all of your jumps, did you ever hurt your back or knee?
$1 is a cheap price to pay for that kind of fantasy.
Well I have to think come next November Cole will be getting a call from Magic Johnson…..
Girardi, on Rapada/Cabral: “I think it comes down to trying to make an educated guess of what (Cabral’s) upside is
Mark Feinsand ? @BloggingBombers
More Girardi on Rapada/Cabral: “I think Clay’s ability to change angles on lefthanders has always been tough. It’s a http://www.sulia.com/c/new-yor.....ce=twitter
Chris Carpenter will see Dr. James Andrews tomorrow about removing a bone spur from his elbow.
GB7,
A twisted ankle from time to time, nothing more serious. I hurt my back catching a dogwood tree with a three and a half foot dirt ball coming off a truck. I think Shame said it, but I can go for months and years, then be disabled for a while with spasms. Do bad backs ever really go away?
The Yanks have been looking for a guy like Rapada for yrs. Jesse Orosco, Mike Meyers, Damaso Marte (tough he wasn’t strictly a LOOGY), you name it.
They’ve been waiting for that shut-down situational lefty, and now they have him. They have to go w/Rapada.
The only unfortunate thing is that Cabral has to go back to the Sox.
Too bad about Romine; back issues are a pain and could linger long-term.
As to who would get sent down (even if Freddy is traded, someone is going), I’m not sure why Nova is any different than Pineda or Hughes.
lol i rarely comment on this blog anymore…but man GB, brett and betsy, do you guys have jobs/lives? if you do, how do you manage to constantly post?
Cabral doesn’t have to go back to the Red Sox.
This was the second year he was drafted in the Rule 5 – because of that, he does not have to be offered back to his original team.
The Yankees would still have to pass him through waivers, which he likely won’t clear. And even if he did clear waivers, he would still have the option to decline a demotion and become a free agent instead.
Tatum is an interesting move, all right.
Cisco, maxwell, Garcia…. And who knows who else….for……?
Bret, thanks for the powerball update… But we need you to concentrate on this.
Um Iceberg, I hardly post, so what are you talking about?
I forgot- either rapada or cantal, also, is available.
Thanks for the clarification, yclept. Chad tried clearing it up for me during his chat, but obviously things were still a bit fuzzy.
It’s not like losing Cabral is going to be a game-changer, but he’s looked pretty good. It speaks well to the Yankees’ scouts that they targeted him as a good Rule 5 draft candidate.
I’m just illustrating the resulting correlation.
stuckey – Don’t you mean making up a resulting correlation? Based on incomplete evidence and a sideways question you are now taking as my “projection” for the Yankee starters?
The entire point is that those starters do NOT pitch that many innings every time through, that’s why it’s an average. The purpose of the exercise is to not have your weakest pitchers going on back to back days, eliminating the possibility (or attempting to) of back to back 5 inning starts (or worse).
Just… stop.
Hello everyone,
This news about Romine are not good. Could be a long term issue, i hope not. But usually those kind ailments kind of linger long term.
The trade is looking worse by the minute, unless they have plans to re-sign Russel “Munson” Martin to a long term deal after the season.
Kuroda is looking better and better. That was a nice pick up.
Blake,
it seems that every time we speak about a guy being done (Ibanez, Jones), he comes back from the dead.
David aardsma ? @TheDA53
Woke up at 6am this morning, no game on tv. Opening game of the season and it wasn’t on tv #really #mlbfail
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Couldn’t agree more. That’s terrible.
luis and blake,
maybe you guys should have a really long conversation about arod being done so he can win another MVP!!
kd March 28th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
luis and blake,
maybe you guys should have a really long conversation about arod being done so he can win another MVP!!
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Good idea!
As long as you help us fend off the grilling we would receive. 
After going to more Athletics games in the last 5 years than i’d like to admit to, I cant understand the Cust move. He is just plain garbage. He’s only a DH, he’s worse than giambi at first and is like bobby abreu’s and vladimir guerrero’s lovechild in the outfield. He k’s A LOT and cant hit a curve ball to save his life.
I’m on it buddy. back off, it’s 56/145 time!
Kd,
I am seriously thinking about changing my handle to “The Walking Dead” tm.
Innings/Hitsallowed/BB/SO/BAA/WHIP/ERA
Rapada 8.1/3/3/11/.107/0.72/0.00
Cabral 10.1/11/2/12/.262/1.26/1.74
Cabral has a slightly better WHIP when facing righties.
Hi Trader!,
Of the two, who would you pick? and why. Please
ID, it is you who needs to START – start looking at the actual math of what you’re proposing.
I’m simply putting a specific number to a idea you broadly proposed.
“The entire point is that those starters do NOT pitch that many innings every time through, that’s why it’s an average.”
That’s entirely missing the point.
Your idea is based on the premise there is enough difference between what you can expect from the #2 starter, and the #5 starter in terms of innings pitched a turn through the rotation.
So how many innings between Kuroda and Hughes/Nova/Pineda do you think that’s going to be?
You yourself said you think all 4 could avg better than 6 innings a start.
We know Sabathia’s top-end is a little over 7?
So for the hell of it,
#2 – Kuroda: 6.2
#3 – Hughes: 6.1
# 4- Nova: 6.1
#5 – Pineda: 6
Move Pineda up to #2 and Kuroda to #3 or 4 in this scenario and you’ve repositioned 2/3rds of an inning over 5 days.
That’s not a criticism, that’s math.
You can’t throw out average and say Pineda is MUCH more likely to go 5 innings than Kuroda is because he’s the “worst” starter. If you’re saying he’s more likely to go 5 one turn through the rotation, that means he’s as likely to go 7 an equal number of times (if he averages 6), so half the time you gain no benefit at all by the shuffle.
Your proposal is only worthwhile if you expect whomever is the Yankees’ worst performer (who you can’t determine the first week) to regularly throw significantly less innings per start than their 2nd best performer.
Is that your expectation?
After going to more Athletics games in the last 5 years than i’d like to admit to, I cant understand the Cust move. He is just plain garbage. He’s only a DH, he’s worse than giambi at first and is like bobby abreu’s and vladimir guerrero’s lovechild in the outfield. He k’s A LOT and cant hit a curve ball to save his life.
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The Scranton Yankees can use a bat.
How did Austin and Cito do today?
icebird753 March 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
lol i rarely comment on this blog anymore…but man GB, brett and betsy, do you guys have jobs/lives? if you do, how do you manage to constantly post?
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I can’t speak for Betsy or GB but I can tell you that I’m not at all concerned about my career or my future because come Friday I will be worth 476 million dollars before taxes. So I post here frequently in anticipation of a lotto jackpot.
“So I post here frequently in anticipation of a lotto jackpot”
LMAO……
Jackson,
I couldn’t see the game, i had audio only. Austin went 0-2 with one K, Cito pinch run for Nunez and had one at bat 0-1. One ground out each.
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Luis-Answer on next thread
tomingeorgia March 28th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
GB7,
A twisted ankle from time to time, nothing more serious. I hurt my back catching a dogwood tree with a three and a half foot dirt ball coming off a truck. I think Shame said it, but I can go for months and years, then be disabled for a while with spasms. Do bad backs ever really go away?
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Tom in the hundreds of jumps I made, the on’y injury I ever had was on my first when the wind came up under my helmet and the chinstrap cut my chin to the bone. It was so cold that I didn’t know I was hurt until I was on the ground and my face started thawing out. Bled like a stuck pig. I’ve landed in a few trees, though, but, never was hurt..no turned ankles.
Well, Icehole…to answer your question, I’m independently poor so I can do whatever I want.
Bret – that may have been the funniest thing you’ve ever posted! LOL
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I thought I read somewhere that Jorge Vazquez does not want to play AAA ball anymore (for any team) and is considering Japan. So, he would have to be replaced I guess.
Villa, that may be the worst thing for Vazquez unless he scores a big contract. Those junk ballers will eat him alive.
it seems that every time we speak about a guy being done (Ibanez, Jones), he comes back from the dead.”
Why do you think I keep talking about how slow Raul ‘s bat is