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Pregame notes: Yankees prepared for all rotation options

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 29, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yesterday Joe Girardi spoke in glowing terms about Freddy Garcia, and today he left very open the possibility of optioning either Ivan Nova or Michael Pineda to Triple-A to start the season.

“There’s no gaurantee that the sixth starter goes to the bullpen,” Girardi said.

Quite often a manager or coach or general manager will leave public breadcumbs to make their intentions clear, but the Yankees are sending signals that they truly don’t know which five starters will make their Opening Day rotation. CC Sabathia and Hiroki Kuroda are in, and Phil Hughes has been the best starter in camp, but the choice still seems fairly wide open even this late into camp. My guess is still the same — that ultimately Garcia gets crowded out — but the team is leaving every possibility open, and they’re preparing for every possibility.

Nova pitched in a minor league game today so that he could avoid facing the Orioles, who he could face in his first regular-season start if he makes the team, but Girardi said not to read too much into that. The Yankees had Nova pitch in the minor leagues because it’s possible he’ll face the Orioles in the second series of the season, not because he will face the Orioles in the second series of the season.

D.J. Mitchell is no longer starting tonight’s game because the Yankees want him to pitch in relief tonight, then pitch in relief again on Saturday. They want to see how he handles that sort of turnaround — something a reliever might do, but a starter would never do — because they want to prepare him for the possibility of being a long man when the season starts. Girardi said it’s still possibel any one of Mitchell, David Phelps and Adam Warren could make the team in a relief role.

“At some point, I’m going to have to disappoint someone,” Girardi said.

The Yankees are creating the impression that they truly don’t know who that’s going to be, and they seem to be preparing themselves for any and all possibilities.

• Nick Swisher was a late arrival at the Yankees minor league complex this afternoon. Swisher joined his teammates for the Boys & Girls Club luncheon, then he went to the complex afterward. Girardi had no word on how he did or how many at-bats he had.

• Obviously Curtis Granderson is in the lineup, which is good news for his sore right elbow.

• Girardi said Nova got up to 95 pitches. I left after four innings — Girardi left after about three – but Girardi said reports on Nova were good. Getting stretched out was a big thing today, and Nova certainly did that. He’d throw just 72 pitches through six innings.

• Andy Pettitte will pitch another simulated game in the next few days. Girardi said it’s still possible Pettitte will pitch in that final spring training game against the Mets. “If it is (possible), we’ll try to use him,” Girardi said.

• Rafael Soriano pitched in today’s Double-A game mostly because there are a lot of pitchers who the Yankees want to see in the big league game. The fact it’s a division opponent in the big league game was also a factor.

• Robinson Cano had a full day off today.

• If you missed it earlier, the Yankees have signed former Pirates 1B/OF Steve Pearce to a minor league deal. It looks like he’ll be the regular first baseman in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. The sense I got based on a few conversations at the minor league complex is that the Yankees would like to move Jorge Vazquez to a team that will give him a better opportunity (could be overseas or another MLB organization). If he is traded, I’m not sure the return would be overly exciting despite last year’s power numbers.

• Heard from a Yankees source today that the team might try to immediately pass Craig Tatum back through waivers in hopes that he’ll clear, letting the Yankees send him to Triple-A for minor league depth. The Yankees claimed Tatum yesterday. He’s out of options, but the fact he fell all the way to the Yankees suggests no other team is interested in claiming him.

• A few injury updates from the minor league complex: Corban Joseph has been shutdown with a shoulder injury. The team is still waiting for word from the team doctor to determine just how much time he’ll miss. … Kyle Higashioka is expected to miss about a month because of a recurring shoulder injury. … Jeremy Bleich, who’s missed more time than expected because of a shoulder injury, is throwing bullpens and getting close facing hitters.

• Andy Pettitte and CC Sabathia threw sides today. Hiroki Kuroda will throw one tomorrow.

• Todays available pitchers: Mariano Rivera, Boone Logan, Adam Warren, D.J. Mitchell, Clay Rapada, Cesar Cabral, Mike OConnor, Kramer Sneed, Kelvin Perez

• Todays second string: C Gustavo Molina, 1B Eric Chavez, 2B Bill Hall, SS Jayson Nix, 3B Doug Bernier, LF Dewayne Wise, CF Justin Maxwell, RF Chris Dickerson

• For those of you who are interested, here’s today’s Triple-A lineup that played behind Nova (yes, with two DHs, it’s a different world down there):

Austin Krum LF
Ramiro Pena 2B
Colin Curtis RF
Steve Pearce 1B
Brandon Laird 3B
Cole Garner DH
Dan Brewer DH
Ray Kruml CF
Kevin Russo SS
Russell Martin C

Associated Press photos

 
 

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84 Responses to “Pregame notes: Yankees prepared for all rotation options”

  1. m March 29th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Sounds like Nova is ready to go. He’s in.

    Pineda has one last chance to punch his ticket.

  2. Against All Odds March 29th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    What’s Prufrock I saw your reply in the previous post…funny stuff. I hope all is well. I can’t wait for the season to start.

  3. Against All Odds March 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    What’s up*

  4. tomingeorgia March 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Yankeefem,
    Missed you this morning. I caught the last six innings. Bartolo was terrific.

    m: Pineda will punch that ticket.

  5. mick March 29th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Sounds like, after all of these clues , that Mitchell could be the longman and Freddy could be #5.
    The intricacies of sending either Pineda or Nova down is not public info so the mystery still unravels.

  6. mick March 29th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    At some point, I’m going to have to disappoint someone,” Girardi said.
    ============================
    Not if you put Freddy in the pen.

  7. jacksquat March 29th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    If Girardi had concerns about Nova, I don’t think he would have left after 3 innings (unless he had something even more important to attend to). Also, it seemed important to them that he get “stretched out” to near a full start, and that is more important if you want someone in your major league rotation. I’d say high chance he is in.

  8. Betsy March 29th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Joe is not making the decision by himself, which he seems to forget. Freddy deserves to start somewhere, probably even here, but there is more to the franchise than just 2012 and Cashman is looking ahead. They have to find out what they have or don’t in Phil Hughes, so I don’t see him left out – at least for now. What stinks is that we’re going to have to go through this all over again when Andy returns.

  9. AZ88 March 29th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    “eboland11 Nova’s line today vs. Blue Jays Triple-A: 7.1IP, 7H, 3ER, 1BB, 5K – 94 pitches, 63 strikes. ”

    That’s a pretty awful line considering he was facing AAA players

    At this point, Nova has done nothing to earn a spot.

  10. blake March 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    They likely already know what they are doing……they keep this charade up until the end of camp every season…..but you don’t make a decision off of one ST start…which is all that’s left.

  11. mick March 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    This isn’t about earning a spot.
    It’s about an overabundance of pitching, a good thing.

  12. m March 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Breadcrumb trail? This ST has been a truck full of panko overturned on the highway! Impossible to navigate. Thankfully the cleanup is almost done. Of course we’ll have to deal with the flack afterwards.

  13. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    6.4 K/9 and 5:1 k:bb seems fine to me. As a sinker baller it will be very hard for Nova to give up less hits than innings pitched. Its why not walking people and having the ability to generate strike outs / limit HRs is so important for him.

    More established pitchers have done worse against lesser lineups. Its not an awful line in the slightest.

  14. blake March 29th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    “At this point, Nova has done nothing to earn a spot.”

    Winning 16 games and being a ROY candidate doesn’t count?…..

  15. LGY March 29th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    At this point, Nova has done nothing to earn a spot

    ——–

    Except for 165 innings of 3.70 baseball in 2011 and a good showing in the ALDS.

    I can’t understand why so many people on this board are getting wrapped up in ST results this year.

  16. Betsy March 29th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I’m not concerned in the least about Pineda; I don’t care about his velocity because it will return eventually. He’s probably just experiencing the bounce due to a heavy workload last year. I hardly think sending him to AAA is going to improve his velocity and the kid can still pitch. I’m not sure why Randy dislikes him so intensely – that’s his business – but I have not seen any indication that he’s high maintenance or less than a really good kid.

  17. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    YankeeSource is rumbling about Vazquez getting released. It will be interesting if they go this entire time with him in their system and neither try him at the majors nor trade him for… anything and he ends up in Japan with the Yankees gaining nothing.

  18. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Mitchell would be the long man if the Yankees found a strong offer for Freddy Garcia. But I doubt any team will offer the Yankees more than his value as an insurance policy for Pettitte. Still, Mitchell has to be ready for that role.

  19. Betsy March 29th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Granderson was on with Mike F. today – it amazes me how he has managed to fly under the radar. He’s only a tremendous CF coming off a phenomenal year who also happens to be extremely well-spoken. Boo on the media for overlooking him.

  20. blake March 29th, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    ST is for evaluating process….not results….the results don’t matter at all.

  21. tomd March 29th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Anyone catch the Rule V guy Myers today who was scheduled to throw two innings after Nova? Curious as to how he looked and what they are going to do with him.

  22. Yank 97 March 29th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Hughes in 2011 and Wang in 2009 both had ST ERAs of right around 4 with pretty good peripherals… and proceeded to get bombed once the real games started.

    There is only so much that can be extracted from ST. Besides, these guys are still in a competition once the games start for who goes to make room for Andy, and the loser of the competition, assuming it is a kid, will be right on the tails of everyone with good performances in AAA. So this thing is far from settled long term anyway.

  23. blake March 29th, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    cito culver @yaboicito 31m Charleston it is. I’m a Riverdog this year!!! Retweeted by Josh Norri

  24. randy l. March 29th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    “Sorry, Bud….just to easy to let that one go by.”

    gb7-

    yeah, fastball down the middle, you gotta go for it.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/1…..hotostream

    actually i think i met jennifer steinbrenner in this old photo.

    she’s the one sitting in front of me.

  25. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Given their inherent fragility, I am concerned about every young pitcher.

  26. randy l. March 29th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    try this one:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/1.....hotostream

  27. mick March 29th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Granderson was on with Mike F. today – it amazes me how he has managed to fly under the radar. He’s only a tremendous CF coming off a phenomenal year who also happens to be extremely well-spoken. Boo on the media for overlooking him.
    ========================================
    Betsy, Curtis is a low key guy,a lot like Jeter.
    He’s quiet, sincere and trustworthy, brought up right.
    You know that isn’t newsworthy. ;)

  28. randy l. March 29th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    “Besides, these guys are still in a competition once the games start for who goes to make room for Andy, and the loser of the competition, assuming it is a kid, will be right on the tails of everyone with good performances in AAA. So this thing is far from settled long term anyway.”

    good point.

  29. Yank 97 March 29th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    LGY – Agree. Which is why it is surprising that Garcia looks like the odd man out – they are not even going to give him the chance to build off last year, which is disappointing.

  30. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    blake March 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    They likely already know what they are doing……they keep this charade up until the end of camp every season…..but you don’t make a decision off of one ST start…which is all that’s left.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Perhaps, because even you should know, the chances of an injury to a pitcher is one throw away.

  31. Tackelberry March 29th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    How serious is Romine’s back problem? Did he go for an MRI?

  32. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Anyone catch the Rule V guy Myers today who was scheduled to throw two innings after Nova? Curious as to how he looked and what they are going to do with him.

    Given he has barely got a chance to show anything this spring, the obvious is that they are gonna return him.

  33. AZ88 March 29th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    “Given their inherent fragility, I am concerned about every young pitcher.”

    Which is why I was against the Montero trade from the outset. Doesn’t Pineda have a history of elbow problems as well?

    Lost in all the talk of pitching depth, no one even mentions Banuelos, Betances, Warren, Phelps, etc. It sure would be nice to have an elite young bat or two considering how flushed we are with pitching…..

  34. randy l. March 29th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    “Winning 16 games and being a ROY candidate doesn’t count?…..”

    blake -

    … and what about the 119 era+

    i don’t get the unlove for nova.

  35. mick March 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Why was Freddy kept over Colon anyway?
    Look at the game Bartolo just threw.
    If you want to 2nd guess, that is.
    Freddy has no future here…that’s another clue.
    Andy is not guaranteed. A month could be a lifetime in the Bigs.

  36. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    “Doesn’t Pineda have a history of elbow problems as well?”

    I am unaware of that.

  37. blake March 29th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Perhaps, because even you should know, the chances of an injury to a pitcher is one throw away.”

    Sure….but not sure what difference that makes.

  38. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    I am unaware of that.

    Lost 09 to elbow inflammation.

  39. stuckey March 29th, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    “Given their inherent fragility, I am concerned about every young pitcher.”

    It sure would be nice to have an elite young bat or two considering how flushed we are with pitching…..

    _________________

    I’m still confused by this conflict.

    How much of a positive is it to be flush with something so fragile?

    Doesn’t ‘flush with fragility’ cancel itself out as a virtue by very definition?

  40. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Interesting I guess.

    Last season, Pineda threw 755 fastballs that were 95-MPH or better. Of those, batters hit .180. Their slugging was .285. Batters missed these pitches almost a quarter (23 percent) of the time.

    Pineda threw 627 fastballs at 94 or slower. Opponents hit .294 on those offerings. They slugged at .476. They only missed 17 percent of the time.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....ce-of-velo

  41. mick March 29th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    How can anyone intimate that we don’t have enough hitting?
    Teams would kill to have our hitting.
    We were a fly ball away from the ALCS.

  42. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    I’ll bet Randy has so many that fit this description that he can’t chose. You could always take Maine with you, Randy.

    Trenton Thunder ? @TrentonThunder

    THIS IS GOING TO GET UGLY! We want you to wear the ugliest sweater you own to the Thunder game on April 10th!

  43. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    -Pineda threw 755 fastballs that were 95-MPH or better.
    -Pineda threw 627 fastballs at 94 or slower.

  44. lounge lizard March 29th, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    eboland11 Nova’s line today vs. Blue Jays Triple-A: 7.1IP, 7H, 3ER, 1BB, 5K – 94 pitches, 63 strikes. ”

    “That’s a pretty awful line considering he was facing AAA players

    At this point, Nova has done nothing to earn a spot.
    ______________________________________________________

    In his last outing, Phil gave up 6 hits and 2 runs in six innings against lower level minor leaguers (high A) and people seemed to think that was pretty good. I don’t see much of a distinction.

  45. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    JF

    How reliable is Marchand? By the looks of that article, clues point to Pineda going down.

  46. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    I assume Marchand, who is a hack, would at the very least not make up numbers. When they are researchable on the internets.

  47. blake March 29th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Randy,

    Yea I don’t really get it either…..

  48. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    I did not know Pineda was having trouble with the media.
    That is what I meant by reliability.

  49. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    I doubt that there is “unlove” for Nova. It could just be the “unpitching” so far. They have a week of starts to make. Lots of time to shake things out.

  50. Jerzz March 29th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Pineda without his velocity is basically like this year’s version of Hughes… a decent pitcher, but not the special one we traded Piazza/Manny for.

  51. stuckey March 29th, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    There is a good case for and some small cases against EVERY ONE of the 4 pitchers vying for 3 spots.

    The Yankees almost certainly can’t make a bad choice. Whatever choice they do make will be 9 parts pure necessity and 1 part “deciding” criteria.

    Can’t we all just recognize that in the macro-view, rather than picking horses and saying “I can’t understand how they wouldn’t use xxxxxx’.

    I can understand why they’d choose all 4 and I can understand they they wouldn’t choose all 4.

    Why, viewed in context, does it have to be some affront to whomever doesn’t get chosen?

    Nearly every ML team would be falling all over themselves to be faced with the ethical dilemma facing the Yankees right now.

    But someone going to have to be indignant about however it works out…

  52. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    The following sentence from that article makes no sense:

    “So can Pineda pitch effectively at 90-92? Brian Cashman and David Cone both say he could. They may end up being right if he develops his change to go along with his still nasty change-up.”

    If he develops his change to go along with his nasty change-up? What does that even mean?

  53. BD (Boston Dave) March 29th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    “Freddy deserves to start somewhere, probably even here, but there is more to the franchise than just 2012 and Cashman is looking ahead. ”

    —–

    You mean an extra full year of control of Pineda for simply leaving him in the minors for ~6 weeks? :)

  54. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Here’s another one:

    “On Tuesday, Pineda again could not pitch his allotted innings, only lasting three frames. Pineda’s pitch count got too high, too quickly, for him to continue deeper. These are the games that Girardi has said mean more as far as the rotation”

    Wasn’t that game on TV, didn’t he throw 5 innings, about 85 pitches?

  55. BD (Boston Dave) March 29th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    mick,

    Clearly a typo for slider.

    His slider can be straight nasty

  56. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    The only room for error in the numbers Marchand provided is that the batting average specifically on 94,93,92 might not be as bad the entire subset of 94 or less.

  57. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Varce and Culver going to Charleston.

    Mixed week for grant Duff….released one day and a new papa 2 days later.

  58. stuckey March 29th, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    Last season, Pineda threw 755 fastballs that were 95-MPH or better. Of those, batters hit .180. Their slugging was .285. Batters missed these pitches almost a quarter (23 percent) of the time.

    Pineda threw 627 fastballs at 94 or slower. Opponents hit .294 on those offerings. They slugged at .476. They only missed 17 percent of the time.

    _____________________________

    This seems like fairly intuitive data.

    We know Pineda is not throwing as hard right now as he was for most of 2011.

    What I’m more interested in knowing is how do those later numbers stacked up against other pitchers.

    The lower numbers show a relative lower rate of success for Pineda, but do the lower numbers indicate he can’t succeed at those rates?

    Those are two completely different questions…

  59. tomingeorgia March 29th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Jesu Christo,
    This is why I like wins and ERA beter

  60. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Wasn’t that game on TV, didn’t he throw 5 innings, about 85 pitches?

    No, it was vs pitts and his 40 pitch 1st hurt the rest of his outing.

  61. BD (Boston Dave) March 29th, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    “I can understand why they’d choose all 4 and I can understand they they wouldn’t choose all 4.”

    —-

    No doubt.

  62. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Mixed week for grant Duff….released one day and a new papa 2 days later.
    ==================
    That usually takes about 9 months.

  63. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    Sending Pineda down will not be the end of the world.
    Even if it’s to lose weight.
    Showcase Freddy, altho if he’s great ,it will be harder to see him go, but his value would be up.

    The real conundrum is if all 6 including Andy are clicking who goes where?

  64. tomingeorgia March 29th, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    angels on a pin.

  65. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Sending Pineda down will not be the end of the world.
    ==================================
    Although some may not like it ;)

  66. RayVT March 29th, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Baseball is a funny sport. Just when you think you have everything lined up something happens. As GB pointed out the Yanks were looking pretty good on paper in 1964. They had a young team, stars, pitching, hitting & greta defense.

    The top 6 starters average age was 26 yrs old with only 1 SP over 28 (Ford).
    The bullpen average age was 26 yrs old w/ only 1 guy over 30.

    The Yankee infield was great defensively and very young.
    (Pepitone 1B-23, Richardson 2B-28, Kubek SS-28 & Boyer 3B-27) with Linz (25) as a utility guy

    The Yankee catchers had Elston Howard (35), Blanchard (31) & Jake Gibbs (25).

    The Yankee OF was loaded with Mantle (32), Maris (29), Tresh (25) with Blanchard (31) & Lopez (35) as backups.

    I dare say if the Yanks of 2012 were this skilled, young & promising we would be thinking how great the next year would be. But the 1965 Yanks trashed the team including Yogi for Keane which never made any sense to me even if Phil Linz liked his harmonica.

  67. UnKnown March 29th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    If Pineda is sent down this blog will become downright unbearable because the wrath of Randy will be upon all.

  68. blake March 29th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    ‘Wasn’t that game on TV, didn’t he throw 5 innings, about 85 pitches?”

    Yes

  69. blake March 29th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    His last outing he threw 5 innings and pitched pretty well….he’s actually pitched pretty well all spring.

  70. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    blake , that article was written before the tuesday game when he got taken out after 3 with a 40 pitch 1st inng

  71. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Stuckey, no website I know of has the kind of batting average data they should on ‘all pitchers’. Like I can search all fastballs by pitchers on Joe’s DB but it doesnt automatically spit out what I want so I am left with an excel spreadsheet of individual pitchfx pitches.

    Here is my rudimentary attempt to look at all fastballs 94 or slower by all other pitchers in baseball.

    15,000 pitches.
    847 swinging strikes on those pitches so 5% (but Marchand’s data goes by swing attempts which is more difficult. I will still try it).
    2886 fouls of any type + 3750 ball in play/swinging strikes = 12% swinging strikes when offer
    649 in play no out (where its an actual single/double/triple) +
    351 in play runs – 35 outs = 965 hits / 3680 balls in play swinging strikes that ended an at bat = .262 batting average

  72. blake March 29th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Sending Pineda to AAA is an acceptable option if they feel like he will respond well to it.

  73. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    blake , that article was written before the tuesday game when he got taken out after 3 with a 40 pitch 1st inng

    No, the article was written AFTER that game but before his next start where he went 5.

  74. Jerkface March 29th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    That was all 94 mph or less fastballs thrown by righthanders.

  75. blake March 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    “blake , that article was written before the tuesday game when he got taken out after 3 with a 40 pitch 1st inng”

    So how relevant is it now? He pitched really well in that game after the first inning……I think he struck out 5 of the last 6 hitters that day.

  76. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    Sending Pineda to AAA is an acceptable option if they feel like he will respond well to it.
    ===================================
    If he’s that tempermental, it could be a precusor to something worse if he stays up .

  77. blake March 29th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Pineda’s last two starts he’s thrown 8 innings total……and he’s been decent-very good in 7 of those innings.

  78. Pat M. March 29th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    RayVT…….Great post on the 64 Yanks…It just blows my mind that they went from Game 7 in 64 to the cellar in 2 seasons……I was a kid who just couldn’t understand how this was happening, after all these were the NY Yankees and playing in October was our birthright for Yankee fans……Sounds very familiar nowadays doesn’t it ???/

  79. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Pat M…I dont remember even now how that happened.
    I see Maris and Mantle were injured and Pepitone had a down season as well as Downing and Bouton who were great in 64.

  80. blake March 29th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    “If he’s that tempermental, it could be a precusor to something worse if he stays up.”

    I don’t mean that he’d pitch a fit….just his would he respond mentally? Would he take it as a challenge like Nova did last year and go try and get better…..or would it hurt his confidence and be counter productive? Those are things the Yanks should know better than we do….

  81. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    I don’t mean that he’d pitch a fit….just his would he respond mentally?
    ===============================
    exactly, we don’t know, i hope they do.
    he seems pretty relaxed, confident, we’ll find out soon enough.
    i think they’d like to…

  82. mick March 29th, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    I have a feeling we might hear something tonight…it’s getting late early around here…

  83. randy l. March 29th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    when i start to really dislike how some parts of this yankee team are put together, i remember that mariano and jeter are still here.

    their leadership will keep the yankees on track.

    overall it should be a very good year.

  84. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    What part of that team isn’t well, constructed, Randy. More rotation depth than they’ve had in 50 years, a bullpen to die for, a slugging center fielder, speed, sluggers at 2nd and two infield corners, a right fielder that is no dog and a pretty solid and versatil bench. Add to that, a blossoming farm system.


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