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Pineda and Cabral going for MRIs

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 30, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Michael Pineda will have an MRI on his shoulder tomorrow. Brian Cashman admitted that hes concerned.

Also, Cesar Cabral is in a sling and will have an MRI and an X-Ray after feeling pain in his left elbow.

 
 

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55 Responses to “Pineda and Cabral going for MRIs”

  1. TheStraw March 30th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    I’d rather Pineda be going for an MRI than CC.

  2. TheStraw March 30th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Sabathia, that is.

  3. Marcus March 30th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Not good.

  4. TheStraw March 30th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Cashman. “this has been a very bad day”

  5. yankeefeminista March 30th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Prayers for clean MRI’s for Pineda and Cabral.

    Cash, uh, no kidding. :roll:

  6. CB March 30th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Can anyone answer this – if Cabral has to go on the DL do the yankees retain his rights?

    How does rule V work in these situations?

    DL time count as major league service time. Can the yanks just put him on the 25 man and then put him on the DL?

  7. Mike_Boston March 30th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Sorry Mike i didn´t answered before, i was clog with some work. Depending of your level of skiing….If you are an expert and want just to ski probably the best powder south and west of the Rio Grande is Las Leñas in Argentina, but there is nothing else to do down there.
    If you want to ski but also enjoy something else there is a tour in Chile that takes you to three or four places on the same trip….Valle Nevado is the best resort, then they take to Arpa which is only catskiing no lifts but great vyniards, then they take you to Portillo (They have Heli skiing there as well as Valle Nevado), the last place i honestly don´t remember. All level of skiers can do this, except probably Arpa.

    Finally, the most beautiful place is Bariloche in Argentina, but the skiing is so so but is a great experience nevertheless. And Buenos Aires is amazing.

    I hope this could help you out.
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    Great info Luis, thanks! Las Leñas sounds like the winner, I’ll start looking into it. What would you say peak time would be down there in terms of powder, August?

    At least we know the rotation now…fingers crossed for good news tomorrow!

  8. luis March 30th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    CB,

    I could be wrong, but he has to clear wavers as well. But if he is injured he probably will, so you sign him to minor league deal afterwards

  9. hardwired7 March 30th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Serenity now. Serenity now.

  10. Nick in SF March 30th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Insanity later.

  11. yankeefeminista March 30th, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    CB, as per RAB: “Just FYI, he has to spend at least 90 days on the active (non-DL) roster this season, otherwise the Rule 5 Draft rules carry over into 2013. · (4) ·

  12. Cashmoney March 30th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Hope Pineda is aight… guess we find out more after the MRI. other than that, I think Yanks be aight without Pineda for the time being due to other options.

  13. CB March 30th, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    “I could be wrong, but he has to clear wavers as well. ”

    Ok. I’m just trying to figure out why they would need to lose him or even put him on waivers but that may just be a quirk of rule V.

    That would be very disappointing. If his arm is in a sling even if he doesn’t need surgery there’s almost no chance he can be on the active roster.

    I just don’t see why they can’t put him on the 25 man and then put him on the DL if he’s injured. Perhaps it’s a mechanism to prevent teams from stashing rule V picks but if so that’s very extreme. The kid can’t pitch.

    Chad – any insight into this?

  14. Bronx Jeers March 30th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Done. I am betting that Pineda will win less than 5.5 games in the 2012 regular season, you are betting Pineda will win more than 5.5 games in the 2012 regular season. The loser buys the winner 5 Ritter sports bars.

    —————————————

    And what about Aceves-like vulture wins ?

  15. GreenBeret7 March 30th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    CB March 30th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    “Cesar Cabral being sent for x rays and MRI. Left elbow pain. He’s in a sling. 9 seconds ago”

    This is really too bad. I was really hoping and expecting them to take a chance on Cabral.

    I wonder though if this is also a way for them to keep him? I don’t see why they can’t put him on the 25 man and then shift him to the DL as needed?

    Players on the DL accumulate ML service time so I don’t see why the yanks would lose him.

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    If there is any bright side, it does buyt NYYs time to see if Rapada is for real or a flash. Cabral does on the DL and NYYs keep him there until healthy and then have another 30 day on Rehab.

  16. G. Love March 30th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    The thing to focus on now is that we still have a solid rotation and a very good pen.

    What happened tonight was horrible. If the news on Pineda (and Cabral to an extent) get worse…I don’t know.

    As much as I have fun making fun of prospect huggers, I saw Montero with my own eyes in September and the kid was mashing HR’s and hard outs to the opposite field which meant he would own Yankee stadium given the chance.

    When this trade went down I was stunned, but not surprised since I felt that Girardi wanted defensive wizards behind the plate and offense was irrelevant. I just didn’t understand the logic in not letting Montero DH and getting the benefit of his bat there for a full season.

    This was my worst nightmare. I don’t think Cashman has any kind of pitching acumen. I really don’t. He got lucky with CC (who everyone wanted to take a chance on if they had the $) and outside of that the guys he showed the least interest in like Nova & Robertsen would develop while the guys like Melancon (our future closer), Hughes, Joba, etc. all had more downs than ups.

    I’m not going to get into the “generational” hitter stuff, but Cashman compared Montero to Piazza. You don’t trade Piazza for a guy who had a good 1/2 season and lost velocity in the 2nd half. You just don’t. Everyone knows that. You trade Piazza for Hallyday, Lee or Felix. You trade him for Kershaw.

    I hope the shoulder issue is nothing and this is Hughes redux and they keep him down, baby the shoulder and hopefully have a pitcher next year who can do something.

    I just don’t understand the rationale that the Yankees showed by trading “Piazza” by their own admission for this guy who came with some red flags based on how he finished last season.

    You hope for a happy ending to this as a Yankee fan and you hope for Pineda’s sake that this can be resolved without the need to cut into his shoulder.

    Cashman screwed up here. He had Kuroda in the bag, Andy nibbling at the line, Noesi ready to step in and Yu there for the taking and he traded Piazza instead.

    I almost wonder if the Yankees attempt at gaming the system and resetting the luxury tax is going to be something that curses them going forward.

    The smarter than the room trades were hallmarks of the arrogant Theo led Red Sox regime. I felt from the beginning that this Pineda deal was Cashman trying to be smarter thann the room by not having to spend on Hamels or Cain or let the kids develop.

    This was a bad night. Hopefully, the news tomorrow will be better.

  17. luis March 30th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Hi Mike,

    Glad that you read my post!…The best time is July, but is peak season and is more expensive. But is worth the trip, especially if you manage to arrive just before a storm. I remember once that i skied 30 inches of new POW, after a while i stopped and couldn’t see my tracks. Pure champagne POW.

    I forgot to tell you that i learned to ski in Vermont. Sugarbush, Mad River Glen, Stowe, Stratton and Killington. Used to have a vacation home up there.

  18. CB March 30th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    ““Just FYI, he has to spend at least 90 days on the active (non-DL) roster this season, otherwise the Rule 5 Draft rules carry over into 2013. ·”

    YF,

    Ok that’s good. Then it sounds like there should be no problem putting him on the DL to start the season if needed.

    Sure if it’s worst case and he needs surgery – rule V kicks in when he returns.

    But hopefully it’s just some tendinitis and he can work his way back. If he gets back healthy it shouldn’t be a problem to get him 90 days of service time.

    The main thing is that they can keep him longer term this season if he has to be put on the DL to start the season.

    Let’s hope for the best. I really liked the kid and was excited about what he could contribute in that role.

  19. Cashmoney March 30th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Cashman. “this has been a very bad day”
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    sry, did not miss some catastrophic events in Yankee land today for Cmoney to make that comment. seems like normal soreness for a pitcher and possibility of losing a loogy might not constitute that bad of a day. maybe cashman knows more about Pineda current plight than he care to reveal as of now. anywho, guess we all find out tom.

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 30th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l.....lkHvBophiO

    Yowza.

  21. GreenBeret7 March 30th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Cabral belongs to the Yankees. Being on the Dl or even on Rehab doesn’t alter that. To do to the minors for any reason other than injury would require waivers. NYY will have him for a while. Even if he goes on the 60 Day Dl for the season…he’s a Yankee.

  22. Nick in SF March 30th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    “And what about Aceves-like vulture wins ?”

    Just win, baby.

    http://www.samruby.com/Amazing.....Man007.jpg

  23. jmv March 30th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Hello, everyone

    Sweeny
    Murti reports via twitter that pre-trade MRI was OK for Pineda

  24. CB March 30th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    GB7,

    That makes sense. That’s what I was most concerned about. I really like what we’ve seen from him from the left side.

    Also agree that given that they have some depth in Rapada it gives them more evaluation time.

    Cabral and Logan from the left side out of the pen – those are two good lefty relief arms and ones that are making very little.

    Let’s hope for the best on both young arms.

  25. luis March 30th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Mike,

    If a storm hits, don’t forget to bring your ski masks, not for the cold but because you won’t be able to breath without it. It is that deep.And take your fat skis, nothing narrower than 95

  26. Bret The Hitman March 30th, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    I doubt Pineda has structural damage. I think it would be hard to even lift a shoulder with structural damage. So I think the MRI will be negative. It’s possible his shoulder soreness is because of the long layoff. If they can pace him in AAA maybe he gets stronger faster than expected. Seattle was smart to sell him high because of the risk of injury with pitchers but Montero is a DH and he didn’t fit here. But I don’t think Pineda has an injury. I think he just needs time.

  27. BronxBorn March 30th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    My phone died so couldn’t post. So good to be in a ballpark. I just love baseball stadiums.

  28. luis March 30th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 30th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l…..lkHvBophiO

    Yowza.

    ======================

    Double Yowza

  29. GreenBeret7 March 30th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    OK, maybe wrong on the 60 day dl, then. I suppose that part is to keep them from hiding the players.

  30. Bret The Hitman March 30th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    That being said, I bet Cashman is sweating bullets and having Feliciano flashbacks. Maybe it will put some hair on his chest.

  31. luis March 30th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 30th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Cabral belongs to the Yankees. Being on the Dl or even on Rehab doesn’t alter that. To do to the minors for any reason other than injury would require waivers. NYY will have him for a while. Even if he goes on the 60 Day Dl for the season…he’s a Yankee.

    ====================================

    That’s great news. I liked his ability to be more than a loogy

  32. Nick in SF March 30th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    I did not win the Mega Millions, therefore my plans to hire a full-time photographer/masseuse to take pictures of people I see wearing Yankee hats will not come to fruition at this time.

    As you were.

  33. EA March 30th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    G. Love – Great post, couldn’t agree more.

    Perhaps there was a reason why SEA sold him high. Still, no one could have had confidence that the Yanks would develop him properly anyway, and fans should remember that he was far from a finished product. He is 22 and had one good half of a year. He had a tantalizing arm like millions of others, this wasn’t King Felix or David Price here.

  34. jacksquat March 30th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    DaSaint007 March 30th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
    Hold up. Cabral AND Pineda? Jack, you cad!

    Who, what?

    Good god, I debate the merits of precautionary MRI’s and everyone starts falling apart!

  35. Benny Blanco March 30th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    I’m not shocked at all… Every time a player comes to the yankees. this shhhhhhh always freggin happens…

  36. GreenBeret7 March 30th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    luis March 30th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 30th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l…..lkHvBophiO

    Yowza.

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    As disturbed as this woman is, she has to be closely related to somebody on here. So many to chose from, though.

  37. EA March 30th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    BloggingBombers For those ranting that Cashman was sold damaged goods and that Pineda has had this problem before … it was his ELBOW before, not SHOULDER.

  38. Tar March 30th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    “I did not win the Mega Millions, therefore my plans to hire a full-time photographer/masseuse to take pictures of people I see wearing Yankee hats will not come to fruition at this time.”

    It will be my little gift to you. At least for tonight, because I am NOT going to check until the morning.

    I am going to have some sweet dreams. :D

  39. Bronx Jeers March 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    @MarcCarig: In related news, some lucky Yankee fan might have hit Mega Millions. The draw looks like it came from Monument Park.

  40. Benny Blanco March 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    “Pineda just admitted he was trying to generate more velocity tonight. He also admitted that he was feeling some soreness in his pitching shoulder tonight.”

    I wonder why? It’s not like reporters are asking him every damn day where the hell his velocity is.

  41. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    CB put it the right way with regard to the level of injury risk was much higher to acquire a young pitcher than to keep a generational hitter.

    Like I have said in previous posts, this is the trade that will define Cashman as a failure. Montero is the real deal his numbers will dramatically improve by the All Star Break. Pineda was a walking red flag after his diminished performance post ASB. The bottom line is that Aroid needs to be a part time DH and his disgusting long term contract helped motivate the trade to get rid of Montero to keep the at bats flexible for the old men that need their rest and take their turn at DH .

  42. Bret The Hitman March 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    I got one number right, the number 4. So I my purchase of the Charleston River Dogs will have to wait, and my plans to surround Cashman with southern belles and cheap whisky so he might spill his guts, delayed.

  43. Bret The Hitman March 30th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Except for number 38. Otherwise, I was thinking the same thing.

    23 23 Mattingly Mattingly
    2 Jeter
    4 Gehrig
    46 Pettitte

  44. GreenBeret7 March 30th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Benny Blanco March 30th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
    “Pineda just admitted he was trying to generate more velocity tonight. He also admitted that he was feeling some soreness in his pitching shoulder tonight.”

    I wonder why? It’s not like reporters are asking him every damn day where the hell his velocity is.

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    If you’re not going to tell the team, why would you tell a reporter? Because you trust him to keep a secret?

  45. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 30th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    I hope Cashman reads this blog. Cashman worried about the risks associated with trading away a Piazza type hitter for an unknown quantity like Pineda. Cashman has to answer for his misguided and poor decision making abilities. Cashman, take responsibility and quit.

  46. Nick in SF March 30th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Lottery Losers welcome :arrow:

  47. G. Love March 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    EA – That was my shock when the trade happened. If you had told me we were trading Montero for Cain I would’ve understood. If you told me we were getting Felix for him I would’ve been elated.

    Pineda looked to have the year Hughes had when he won 18 but only pitched well for 1/2 a season. When people started saying his velocity dropped in the 2nd half I got worried. When Verducci put Pineda in his warning list I just tried to tune that out and pretend it was just the big bad media ganging up on my Yankees.

    Then when he got to spring training & the velocity wasn’t there I got nervous. I think that’s part of the reason I was so thrilled Andy was returning. I had a feeling something like this was going on. When Mo at 42 can stroll into spring training and throw 92 in his sleep and Pineda, 20 years younger than him, started the spring throwing below 90…well you get my drift.

    What’s done is done. Cashman is a poor evaluator of pitching. He always has been. He always will be. This isn’t news. Anyone who has followed this team knows he’s wrong way more than he’s right. He also has an arrogance to him in that he covers his eyes and pretends this offense didn’t need a young power bat. He signs Ibanez when guys like Damon and Matsui would kill to put the uniform on again because Ibanez is docile in the clubhouse.

    You want to think that the Yankees are run by really smart guys who do their homework and know what they are doing but unfortunately they’re human.

    The good part is we have a solid 5 rotation with Andy Pettitte waiting in the wings. Our pen is balanced and talented. In Phelps, Warren and Mitchell we have arms that are ready to step in that are better than the Darrell Rasner/Karstens era arms who were called on in similar ways.

    If I were the owners of this team I would go above Cashman’s head and find him a person to control the pitching decisions since he’s shown he’s poor at that. If Cashman doesn’t like it, he can go. He’s not a great baseball mind. He’s not a GM savant. He’s a human guy who makes a lot mistakes and the payroll and the talent he inherited help cover for him an awful lot.

  48. pat March 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    I’m praying Pineda’s pride is located at the back of his right shoulder and that’s the only thing hurt.

    Robbie’s a video star

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be

  49. Melkmanisinhotlanta March 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Like I’ve said before, Montero was raised in the belly of the beast, the NYY culture. He was blooming as a hitter right before our eyes. Cashman was wrong, again. Perhaps Cash can try to get Jarret Wright, or Javiar Vasquez, or Weaver…….wrong again Cash!

  50. Cashmoney March 30th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Cashman’s track record for acquiring ‘ace’ arm aint great. Guys like brown and johnson he made to satisfy yankees win now win ws every year mandate. some like karsay or Pavano you can blame some on cash for betting big base on one good year. some r just plain bad luck as in feliciano. in summation, his bodywork when it comes to acquiring pitchers simply aren’t that great for various reasons.

    it all come down to this, develop your own young aces, cuz they are many and if any to be acquire via trade or fa. easier said than done though.

  51. Cashmoney March 30th, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Like I’ve said before, Montero was raised in the belly of the beast, the NYY culture. He was blooming as a hitter right before our eyes. Cashman was wrong, again. Perhaps Cash can try to get Jarret Wright, or Javiar Vasquez, or Weaver…….wrong again Cash!
    ——-
    I have to ask this earnestly… are your just retarded?

  52. Pat M. March 30th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Cashmoney……Don’t waste your time

  53. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 2nd, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    greed

  54. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 2nd, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    greed

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 2nd, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    :evil:


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