Spring training Game 30: Yankees at Marlins
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Apr 01, 2012 
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YANKEES (15-11-3)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Raul Ibanez DH
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner LF
LHP CC Sabathia (0-1, 4.50)
Sabathia vs. Marlins
MARLINS (11-12-2)
Jose Reyes SS
Emilio Bonifacio CF
Hanley Ramirez 3B
Giancarlo Stanton RF
Logan Morrison DH
Gaby Sanchez 1B
Omar Infante 2B
Austin Kearns LF
John Buck C
RHP Ricky Nolasco (1-0, 3.79)
Nolasco vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network
WEATHER: It’s a bright and sunny day, but it’s also pretty hot outside, so the roof is closed.
UMPIRES: HP Angel Hernandez, 1B Ed Rapuano, 2B Laz Diaz, 3B Ed Hickox
FAMILIAR FACES: Yesterday the Yankees purchased the contract of Austin Kearns, officially adding the short-term Yankees outfielder to their Opening Day roster. The Marlins also have former Yankees prospect Mike Dunn in their bullpen, and they still have Chad Gaudin in camp on a minor league deal.
UPCOMING PITCHERS: The Yankees will face Carlos Zambrano tomorrow, then they’ll wrap up spring training by facing Mike Pelfrey on Tuesday and Dillon Gee on Wednesday. They have a workout at Tropicana Field on Thursday’s off day and open the season Friday against James Shields.
DONE THIS BEFORE: The Yankees last played stadium-opening road exhibitions in 2000 when they traveled to Houston to open Enron Field (now Minute Maid Park).
UPDATE, 1:13 p.m.: First pitch is a Jeter double to right.
UPDATE, 1:16 p.m.: Cano breaks his bat and still hits a sac fly to medium center field. It’s 1-0 Yankees after three batters and two outs.
UPDATE, 1:31 p.m.: Two-out RBI single by Stanton pulls the Marlins even in the second inning.
UPDATE, 1:43 p.m.: Solo homer by Gaby Sanchez puts the Marlins ahead 2-1 in the second.
UPDATE, 1:52 p.m.: Another Marlins run scores on a couple of singles and a couple of ground outs. It’s 3-1 at the end of two.
UPDATE, 2:28 p.m.: Three-run fifth inning for the Yankees, with Raul Ibanez connecting on the big hit, a sharp double to the wall in left-center.
UPDATE, 2:29 p.m.: Make that a four-run fifth, Robinson Cano just double in a run.
UPDATE, 2:32 p.m.: And an RBI single by Rodriguez. It’s 6-3 Yankees.
UPDATE, 2:44 p.m.: Maybe this is why Rivera never makes road trips in spring training. He just allowed a spring training earned run for the first time since 2008.
UPDATE, 2:47 p.m.: Yankees just announced that they’ve singed RHP Jason Bulger to a minor league deal and he’ll report to Scranton.
Yall check out this guy’s Yankee tattoo on his back. Major fan or major fool?
http://pinterest.com/pin/57843176434148442/
“Yesterday the Yankees purchased the contract of Austin Kearns, officially adding the short-term Yankees outfielder to their Opening Day roster”
you mean the marlins?
Looks like a cheesy dome. And don’t kid yourselves, the roof will be closed 80% of the time.
Go Jeet!
someone needs to cleanup that mess (collage) behind the centerfield wall. It looks like someone threw up
We need a big year from Jeter.
(yf, I responded to your post on the other thread)
also, the Stanley sign is a nice touch. Nothing like looking at a baseball stadium and seeing a yellow tape-measure.
if Selig had any sense, he’d make baseball clubs adopt the japanese method of baseball advertising on outfield fences. (ie all advertising should be in white script)
Rich, among the projectable elite hitters, we do have JR and Flores in Tampa.
Jeter has really been driving the ball. We have to keep him healthy.
CC’s fastball topping out at about 92, think he’s injured?
Lol
“CountryClub April 1st, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Looks like a cheesy dome. And don’t kid yourselves, the roof will be closed 80% of the time.
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I think it looks nice, it will probably be open a lot for night games in April at least…but July-September it will probably be closed every game. that left field view is great of the skyline.
This is so good:
Marc Carig ? @MarcCarig Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
RT @dgoold: Berkman just drove Wainwright’s truck onto the field and pretended to give it away in a random drawing for the fans./ +1
At least they haven’t sold out the naming rights to the place (Marlins Park)… yet. Kind of surprising.
Those fish have good seats.
This stadium is absolutey disgusting. What on earth were they thinking with these lime green walls? The dimensions are just plain retarted. The marlins went out and decided to do the most outlandish things just to draw in a fan base. This would be like the cardinals installing red walls because its one of their colors.
What’s the reason for allowing only 25,000 in the game today ? And more next game ?
Yeah, I’m not generally a fan of “colorful” so it’s not surprising I don’t care for the color scheme, but that lime green is downright disgusting.
bad play by alex.
he’s probably just bored waiting for the season to start..
wasn’t thinking.
Unusual mental mistake by A-Rod.
I mean on the field.
Missed it; what’d Alex do.
Has CC thrown harder this spring ?
Randy,
I wrote two posts on the previous thread, i would like you to have a look at them, if it’s not too much trouble.
Alex had him easily, don’t know why he did that.
Green & orange go well together ! NOT
Maybe it’s an April Fools joke.
I think the colors are fine for a Miami team..
4 NYY April 1st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Has CC thrown harder this spring ?
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My comment was just a sarcastic jab at those who thought there must be something wrong with Pineda because his velocity was down by a few mph. He didn’t have to be injured or something wrong with him, just like there doesn’t have to be anything wrong with CC. It’s not uncommon for pitchers to not be quite up to full velocity in spring training.
Now when Pineda started dropping his arm a lot and moving his arm around between pitches in his last start, that was a bad sign.
There were runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs, ground ball to Alex, he had an easy play on the runner coming from 2nd, instead threw to 1b.
Thanks, JS.
Austin Kearns again? At least it’s not Serio Mitre.
The teams colors are fine. I don’t like them but they are team colors. The problem is, you dont have to put you team colors all over your stadium. What if teams went with orange, yellow, red, walls? It just looks silly. Its okay to go with normal calm elements in your stadium and color scheme. The marlins made obvious attempts to be the most outlandish team out there. They are complete try hards. Just imagine boston having the red monster because its more hip and cool than the green.
jacksquat April 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
4 NYY April 1st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Has CC thrown harder this spring ?
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My comment was just a sarcastic jab at those who thought there must be something wrong with Pineda because his velocity was down by a few mph. He didn’t have to be injured or something wrong with him, just like there doesn’t have to be anything wrong with CC. It’s not uncommon for pitchers to not be quite up to full velocity in spring training.
Now when Pineda started dropping his arm a lot and moving his arm around between pitches in his last start, that was a bad sign.
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I understand, but I actually meant has he thrown harder so far this spring ? He certainly reaches mid 90′s during the season.
What’s the reason for allowing only 25,000 in the game today ? And more next game ?
Asking again, if anyone knows. Didn’t hear the announcers say why.
I’m not sure if CC has thrown harder this spring or not, I’ve only watched his starts a little, but I don’t remember 95-96. For the record, I’m not worried about CC unless he starts grabbing at his arm. It’s also not unusual for CC to get off to a little bit of a slow start.
Kay’s concerned about the freakin fish.
jacksquat April 1st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
I’m not sure if CC has thrown harder this spring or not, I’ve only watched his starts a little, but I don’t remember 95-96. For the record, I’m not worried about CC unless he starts grabbing at his arm. It’s also not unusual for CC to get off to a little bit of a slow start.
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That’s true, thanks.
A dj and a night club in left field? I mean… Its cool but its not baseball. I was just at spring training and i loved it so much because it was so old school. No radar gun, no luxuary seats, some stadiums didnt have video scoreboards. Just good ole baseball. Teams cant still make plenty of money without doing such things as bringing in pools and nightclubs to their stadiums.
luis-
i responded in last post.
I actually like the fish. There’s just too much of that ugly lime green, everywhere.
Maybe they could name this the “Carmen Miranda” Stadium with some Go Daddy. com advertising !
So it’s April 1st and sun is shining in Miami but the roof is closed?
CC is kind of a slow starter anyway, and he doesn’t always sit 94-95 in the season.
Of course, there’s always that option of not going to that park if you don’t like it. People that remember the old Tiger (Briggs) stadium or the first Yankee Stadium remember those ugly shades of green or that Comiskey Park had it’s last coat of white paint in 1920.
Thanks Randy,
I am going out to lunch, i will answer more calmly when i get back. But thank you, i do agree with you. Later.
Austin being Austin.
Nice throw by Reyes.
4 NYY,
I didn’t get the impression that they only made 25k available. It sounded more like that’s all that bought tickets.
From that double to left it looks like Ibanez has some pop left in his bat, it’s a good sign with the season starting this week.
The roof is closed because of heat?! Murray and novak are playing playing right now Outdoors in the same town. The stadium will be closed a lot i’m assuming.
I could have sworn I heard the Marlins announcer say 25,000 today and 30,000 tomorrow and no restraints for opener against Cards. But, he didn’t say why.
“People that remember the old Tiger (Briggs) stadium or the first Yankee Stadium remember those ugly shades of green or that Comiskey Park had it’s last coat of white paint in 1920.”
gb7-
if you go up where maine yankee lives, they paint almost every year.
the problem is that’s the only way to hold the building together .
i’m actually going to be miami in a few weeks for a week or so. i’ll have to check out this park if i can get tickets.
“From that double to left it looks like Ibanez has some pop left in his bat, it’s a good sign with the season starting this week.”
i love yankee hitters who have power the other way.
they are much harder to pitch too.
“Tabbert April 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
A dj and a night club in left field? I mean… Its cool but its not baseball. I was just at spring training and i loved it so much because it was so old school. No radar gun, no luxuary seats, some stadiums didnt have video scoreboards. Just good ole baseball. Teams cant still make plenty of money without doing such things as bringing in pools and nightclubs to their stadiums.
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casual fans want much more these days, NYS has a Hard Rock Cafe and all the other amenities to distract people from baseball…smart move during a long season…it’s the way new arenas/parks are these days…..Miami Corporations aren’t buying packages if it’s old and cramped like Fenway
My guess is, they want to ease in to the crowds. They want to figure out how many workers they need where and when. Just helps them transition for opening day with a more clear idea of what to expect and be able to open the stadium without much confusion, complaints.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to some of these people design a park/building and check out their color schemes? Or go down to where they work and boo them.
Cano is due to nail a line drive somewhere.
Josh Norris @jnorris427
Second AB, Ramirez blows smoke by him twice, the second 96 at the letters, then makes him look silly on change-up down in the zone. Dirty.
24m Josh Norris @jnorris427
Both Ramirez vs. Sanchez at-bats were excellent. First one, Sanchez rifled a double down the third-base line like it was was nothing.
*****
Hoping for video of these. J-Ram picking up right where he left off in Instructs.
It could be that their isn’t enough concession supplies on hand at the park yet to feed all of the people.
I actually just saw a tweet that comfirmed you are right about the 25k. My guess is they wanted to ease the people that work there into the crowds. Didn’t want to dump close to 50k on them on the first day.
“RadioKev April 1st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I think the colors are fine for a Miami team..
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Yeah I’d rather they go tacky which in a lot of ways, how the City is than trying to be something they’re not. But I’m not obsessed about forcing tradition..ex I want the DH for all of baseball but an older NL fans would gasp in disgust
GreenBeret7 April 1st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Wouldn’t it be interesting to some of these people design a park/building and check out their color schemes? Or go down to where they work and boo them.
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What would be interesting is if you ever gave an opinion on anything (aside from pushing a smorgasbord of minor leaguers) instead of just sitting back and criticizing others when they do.
The location of this stadium will kill the marlins anyways. They are right next to coral gables now which is known more as a rich/ polo/ golf/ tyle of crowd. The big base of their crowd is now looking at driving 1-2 hours to the stadium, 3 hours at the game, another 1-2 to get back. Your looking at 7+ hours just to go see a game. Not to sound rude, but thos stadium is not in a nice part of town. The people who live there wont be able to afford season tickets. It sounds messed up, but its a fact.
The Marlins announcers said the crowd was limited to 25,000 today and 30,000 tomorrow.
You have to give some props to the Marlins ownership (even if it’s difficult, they aren’t the nicest people in the world) because with all the New Yorkers in South Florida they could probably sell these games out several times over.
“What would be interesting is if you ever gave an opinion on anything (aside from pushing a smorgasbord of minor leaguers) instead of just sitting back and criticizing others when they do.”
i agree.
gb7 is mean.
he hurts my feelings all the time.
however, i think it was unnecessary to use a word like “smorgasbord ” with gb7 knowing that he couldn’t spell it off the top of his head if his life depended on it.
Will Mo finally give up a run in ST ?
Joe said CC “feeling a little under the weather today”.
I’m not sure if I spelled “smorgasbord” right, I just winged it.
Too bad Alex makes so much money. Given what the YES crew said about what it takes to get people to go to watch games there, he would be a great draw in his final couple of years, while giving the Yankees some more payroll flexibility.
concerning pineda
“coming to new york is not easy”
no kidding joe.
love your relaxed laid back attitude abut maybe it’s a good idea to step back for pineda , but hey JOE,
how about making that decision ahead of time because it is an effiing hard place to play.
It’s been a while, but Mo finally did.
NOOOOOOOO
What would be interesting is if you ever gave an opinion on anything (aside from pushing a smorgasbord of minor leaguers) instead of just sitting back and criticizing others when they do.
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When others do what? Give their opinion? Aren’t you criticizing my opinions? Does that make you better, worse or the same?
Whenever a new park that opens, people on here whine about it. I just wanted to know what others tastes would be since they don’t seem to like anything. What’s really amazing is that most of those complaining will never go there anyway.
As far as the minor league talk? stick it. I’m not the only one that talks about them, others do care and talk about them.
People were just giving their opinions about the park. If you have another opinion, you could just post it, or not. You don’t have to make wiseass remarks about others giving their opinions.
And I don’t have anything against minor league updates at all, that wasn’t my point.
And I don’t have anything against minor league updates at all, that wasn’t my point.
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So, why bring it up?
“no kidding joe.”
Whatever you think of Girardi’s managing, he offers nothing in interviews. They shouldn’t even bother.
Yankee fans should be rooting for Kentucky on Monday when Kentucky wins the Yanks win–except for 1948–the Yankees won the World Series each time…49, 51, 58, 78, 96, 98…go Big Blue…go Yankees!
jacksquat April 1st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
People were just giving their opinions about the park. If you have another opinion, you could just post it, or not. You don’t have to make wiseass remarks about others giving their opinions.
And I don’t have anything against minor league updates at all, that wasn’t my point.
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I agree with all points wholeheartedly. Nothing bad there. And I do like the minor league updates, especially with links. Nice to see.
I think the park looks pretty neat. Just tuned in. Having a busy day. It’s different. Not Yankee style but definitely Miami style.
“GreenBeret7 April 1st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
What would be interesting is if you ever gave an opinion on anything (aside from pushing a smorgasbord of minor leaguers) instead of just sitting back and criticizing others when they do.
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When others do what? Give their opinion? Aren’t you criticizing my opinions? Does that make you better, worse or the same?
Whenever a new park that opens, people on here whine about it. I just wanted to know what others tastes would be since they don’t seem to like anything. What’s really amazing is that most of those complaining will never go there anyway.
As far as the minor league talk? stick it. I’m not the only one that talks about them, others do care and talk about them.
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ha ha I remember reading on here when New Yankee Stadium opened and over half hated it so they’ll be more critical of another’s team new ballpark….I don’t live in Miami but have been there a lot and have family there and it fits Miami. They color scheme several of their DT buildings pink for example ha…….I thought that’s what is unique about baseball, different dimensions and different styles at every ballpark and no rain delays
Boy, Martin still looks bad at the plate, still overswinging. I guess that’s what he is for the near future. Damn
gb7-
for the park color,i think i would have gone with pink flambe or bright chartreuse
http://www.pantone.com/pages/f.....&ca=4
“Boy, Martin still looks bad at the plate, still overswinging. I guess that’s what he is for the near future. Damn”
I’m hardly Martin’s biggest fan, and you could be right about his overall approach, but I did notice him going up the middle in the last game I watched, which was shocking….
ha ha I remember reading on here when New Yankee Stadium opened and over half hated it so they’ll be more critical of another’s team new ballpark….I don’t live in Miami but have been there a lot and have family there and it fits Miami. They color scheme several of their DT buildings pink for example ha…….I thought that’s what is unique about baseball, different dimensions and different styles at every ballpark and no rain delays
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Although I remarked negatively about the colors of this new stadium, I think you have a good point. And I love the roof.
Outside of California, Florida probably leads America in pastel colored houses. Pink, lime green..Go to the meduterrainean…that’s all they have. It goes with the style of the homes and this park tries to marry those styles and colors. They have a distinct Spanish influence.
and, now you know the REST of the story.
ha ha I remember reading on here when New Yankee Stadium opened and over half hated it so they’ll be more critical of another’s team new ballpark….I don’t live in Miami but have been there a lot and have family there and it fits Miami. They color scheme several of their DT buildings pink for example ha…….I thought that’s what is unique about baseball, different dimensions and different styles at every ballpark and no rain delays
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tampayank,
Yeah, the colors suit the populace. Lots of Caribbean folks down there. Reflects more tropical colors in nature.
Rich in NJ April 1st, 2012 at 2:57 pm
“Boy, Martin still looks bad at the plate, still overswinging. I guess that’s what he is for the near future. Damn”
I’m hardly Martin’s biggest fan, and you could be right about his overall approach, but I did notice him going up the middle in the last game I watched, which was shocking….
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And he hit a shot to center in this game, ran down by CF’er.
I like watching this game and getting the Marlins broadcast for it. Very informative on things about the new park.
Heath Bell just said his impression on the park is that “It’s very green.” lol
Marlins president was just in the booth and he said that when they open the roof and the outfield windows, the ball flies. Hanley said he’d hit 150 HRs if they were able to play that way all yr.
J. Alfred Prufrock April 1st, 2012 at 3:03 pm
ha ha I remember reading on here when New Yankee Stadium opened and over half hated it so they’ll be more critical of another’s team new ballpark….I don’t live in Miami but have been there a lot and have family there and it fits Miami. They color scheme several of their DT buildings pink for example ha…….I thought that’s what is unique about baseball, different dimensions and different styles at every ballpark and no rain delays
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tampayank,
Yeah, the colors suit the populace. Lots of Caribbean folks down there. Reflects more tropical colors in nature.
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So, as I said earlier, “Carmen Miranda” Stadium ? J/K
Bo knows April 1st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Boy, Martin still looks bad at the plate, still overswinging. I guess that’s what he is for the near future. Damn
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One one at bat, he still looks bad? he’s hitting over .300 this spring so, clearly not that bad. He’s 1-3 and hit the ball hard another time. Don’t allow your dislike for the player shade your view.
those marlin hats are pretty ugly.
my guess is they get redesigned.
Why? Thi spring time, Girardi. Play these people the whole game. No wonder you don’t know baseball. you never listen to the fans.
Is this the first game played at this park? If so, I wish a Yankee was the first to hit a HR.
Bard in the ro, Aceves in the pen? Aceves is the better starter and Bard is the better relief pitcher. But that’s what happens when you can’t build a bullpen. Stick the duct tape guy in there to patch it up. I’m looking forward to Bard hitting his pitch count in the 4-5 innings.
So, as I said earlier, “Carmen Miranda” Stadium ? J/K
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Isn’t he in the Rays organization?
Carig called them the Miami Orioles because of the uniforms.
“This stadium is absolutey disgusting. What on earth were they thinking with these lime green walls? The dimensions are just plain retarted. The marlins went out and decided to do the most outlandish things just to draw in a fan base. This would be like the cardinals installing red walls because its one of their colors.”
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have no idea. I agree with you.
it have nothing with the design (I like contemporary). But rather, the ‘decorating’ etc. It screams “Cheap”
On a side note, it was especially nice to see that Dante’s 2nd HR yesterday was against a proven Major League player in Brandon Lyon. What a day the kid had.
Maybe Venditte and Montgomery will get into this game.
Just my thought here ( as it was last year ) and not because of the hits he’s given up this inning, but I think Soriano is gonna break our hearts way too many times this year. He’s not Robertson, and he’s not Mo.
Gotta be the first time ever that “Jose Reyes” and “goes all out” have ever been used in the same sentence.a
Tampa Bay Rays are probably saying right now “What about us?”
Tropicana Field deserves every complaint you can think of, so pile on Friday afternoon
I’m looking at the gameday graphic. There’s a sculpture in LCF that looks like a Carnival float?
This place is definitely better than the Trop, lime green and all.
it have nothing with the design (I like contemporary). But rather, the ‘decorating’ etc. It screams “Cheap”
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“Screams Cheap” is US Cellular in Chicago.
Bases loaded for JR Murphy. Let’s see if he keeps up with Bichette Jr.
JR batting.
Hit it good.
Okay, maybe there’s still hope for Martin. I just glanced in at the game.
JR got on that quick, stung it. Too bad.
Bob Cerv ?
No, just Francisco C. Good enough !
Marc Carig ? @MarcCarig
Mo wearing gray pants in spring training. When he’s done, somebody should ship those to Cooperstown. Can’t be many of them game-used.
Wade hasn’t looked close to what he was last year.
Does Wade make this team off of last year ?
Seriously, what is Wade doing? Is it me or does he keep throwing with a lower arm angle? Send him down, he’s totally out of whack. Get in a fresh arm.
I don’t think Wade will make it through the year with the Yanks……he have several pitchers at AAA that have better stuff
How about D.J. instead ?
DJ is a good option to replace Wade……probably mid season
Yankees did indeed release Deangelo Mack and Austin Krum. They also signed former Angels reliever Jason “Whitey” Bulger to a minor league contract.
GreenBeret7 April 1st, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Wade hasn’t looked close to what he was last year.
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Completely agree. Very shaky all spring…
Loria looks like a guy that would hang around the neighborhood wearing a raincoat and black socks.
Doesn’t it feel like Wade is trying to lull these guys to sleep? Didn’t he used to throw in the 90s?
What’s wrong with Hall coming home on that play. There was no way the DP is turned even iwth a good throw.
not a good inning for Wade
Surely, Wade won’t make the cut. But ya’ never know.
Wow, Swisher really got lean, looks like a different guy.
that’s as wild a bunch of swings that Nunez has had in 2 years.
Nunez does look a lot smoother and more sure of himself on defense.
Interesting that Leiter prefaced his “red flag” commentary on Pineda’s shoulder with “some might not want us to talk about”…. who, some?
Leiter obviously has a great deal of confidence to say what’s on his mind.
DeAngelo Mack ? @DeAngeloLMack
Goodbyes are the worst. Go get em this year boys. #Loveyaboys
DJ Mitchell has a decent shot of making the roster as the long man becaus Garcia will be the fifth starter. Does that open an opportunity for Kontos if Wade continues to struggle? I doubt they would want both DJ Mitchell and David Phelps in the pen. Best to keep Phelps or Mitchell stretched out in case of a rotation injury.
Red Grooms is a very unique artist. He does great 3-dimensional urban landscapes and city scenes that have a great vitality and even light-hearted humor to them.
That is definitely awesome that Grooms did that sculpture.
Life is a series of goodbyes.
http://www.artnet.com/artwork/.....alley.html
J.R. sure gives the appearance of a good hitter.
4 NYY,
Appearances aren’t deceiving in JR’s case. The only suspense is, how much will his power increase? The catching is alleged to have improved. Haven’t seen him since witnessing a nightmare afternoon for him behind the plate.
J. Alfred Prufrock April 1st, 2012 at 4:25 pm
4 NYY,
Appearances aren’t deceiving in JR’s case. The only suspense is, how much will his power increase? The catching is alleged to have improved. Haven’t seen him since witnessing a nightmare afternoon for him behind the plate.
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I have followed him, now I know with my eyes. If he can catch, looks like he’ll be a hitting catcher.
Cedeno isn’t gonna make it, maybe ( and rightly so ) Rapada will.
Murphy is more likely to be a four corner defensive player than can catch if necessary, unless he really cleans up the deficiencies behind the plate.
‘Interesting that Leiter prefaced his “red flag” commentary on Pineda’s shoulder with “some might not want us to talk about”…. who, some?”
I noticed that in Pineda’s previous start Flaherty was talking about how Pineda’s decreased velo so late in ST was a real concern, and mentioned it a few times during the game, but when they later interviewed Girardi, they avoided the issue, even as Girardi went on and on about how unconcerned he was, and about how well he was pitching despite no velo.
Cashman and Girardi aren’t blind. Everyone knows that Pineda has been a concern all spring, and that they took a major risk in trading for him (not saying it wasn’t justifiable by some, only that it was in fact a risk).
So I think it’s obvious that bringing up the potential cause is a sensitive area for Yankee decision-makers because of the risk they knowingly took.
Josh Norris with notes and video of Campos, Sanchez and Acevedo
http://minormatterstrenton.blo.....day-8.html
I wonder why they released DMack. He hasn’t been awful. 13th round pick. Should have been in AA this year. Only 25
Campos doesn’t follow through much. I’m not sure if that’s good, bad, or something else.
StoneLarry
Classic pitching matchup Monday in Peoria: Felix Hernandez vs. Jamie Moyer
Wish I could be there to see that (even though it’s only ST)
as to the “rotation for real” this means ….
Vargas, Felix in Oakland this Fri, Sat
Noesi (vs Darvish!) Beavan, Millwood, Vargas in Texas
Felix for the Home Opener vs. A’s on the 13th (yay – I’ll be there with my dad)
4 NYY April 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
J. Alfred Prufrock April 1st, 2012 at 4:25 pm
4 NYY,
Appearances aren’t deceiving in JR’s case. The only suspense is, how much will his power increase? The catching is alleged to have improved. Haven’t seen him since witnessing a nightmare afternoon for him behind the plate.
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I have followed him, now I know with my eyes. If he can catch, looks like he’ll be a hitting catcher.
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I just saw him catch the one game (he played 3B in another I saw); he was over his head in that one. Won’t get a sense of the reported progress until he gets to Trenton. He’s in Tampa now, so won’t be too long, I expect.
Jerkface April 1st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I wonder why they released DMack. He hasn’t been awful. 13th round pick. Should have been in AA this year. Only 25
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We had him down here last year. Meh.
Meh or not, he has only been in the system for 3 years and was a passable outfielder. Fairly good plate discipline, hit for an ok average, just waiting for some power to come.
I don’t see the benefit in outright releasing him. I wonder if there is something more to it. I could scarcely believe he’d be released on performance. The guy he was released with got 1 more year & was 100 x worse.
Wade is arbitration eligible next year. Could get released or traded if he continues pitching poorly. Too many good kids nipping at his heels to hold on to him unnecessarily.
saint-
Wade still has options.
“He was abused,” Cashman told reporters Sunday in Tampa. “It’s a thin market when you’re looking for power pitchers, and he was one of the better ones out there. But you don’t typically go after a guy who’s been used like that in his first season. The use pattern was abusive.”
Told of Cashman’s comments, the Mariners pitching coach Carl Willis said, “They didn’t know that when they traded for him?”
Mack did the job they wanted him to do and he improved. Not everyone has to be a speed burner or a masher. Krum has regressed, even on defense and is now just a runner. They kept better in Ray Kruml.
Thanks MTU. Alas, another option.
“He was abused,” Cashman told reporters Sunday in Tampa.
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Says a lot about Cashman, doesn’t it?
I noticed that in Pineda’s previous start Flaherty was talking about how Pineda’s decreased velo so late in ST was a real concern, and mentioned it a few times during the game, but when they later interviewed Girardi, they avoided the issue, even as Girardi went on and on about how unconcerned he was, and about how well he was pitching despite no velo.
Cashman and Girardi aren’t blind. Everyone knows that Pineda has been a concern all spring, and that they took a major risk in trading for him (not saying it wasn’t justifiable by some, only that it was in fact a risk).
So I think it’s obvious that bringing up the potential cause is a sensitive area for Yankee decision-makers because of the risk they knowingly took.
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I missed the interview and also Flaherty’s forebodings. I can see why Flaherty would wonder aloud on the broadcast, but that they would steer clear of it in the interview. What I found interesting about Leiter’s comment was him being up front that people “may not want” him, or the booth guys, to address the issue. He’s kind of openly telling the viewers it’s a sore subject, so to speak, to be examined too closely. I would have thought that was verboten. The only thing I can think of is, he knows he’s going to discuss it on a spot on MLB Network, and doesn’t want to be viewed as a Yankee stooge, but as an impartial analyst (which, I guess, he is!).
IF they wanted to get rid of Montero at any cost, I would like to know why?
Nick, April Fools or link?
Doubt we’d say that stuff.
Nick in SF April 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
“He was abused,” Cashman told reporters Sunday in Tampa. “It’s a thin market when you’re looking for power pitchers, and he was one of the better ones out there. But you don’t typically go after a guy who’s been used like that in his first season. The use pattern was abusive.”
Told of Cashman’s comments, the Mariners pitching coach Carl Willis said, “They didn’t know that when they traded for him?”
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No link. No true.
Saint-
You’re welcome.
I think Girardi has said he intends to take wade North.
You’d have to think he would be on a short leash considering he still has options left and amount of talent the Yankees have who could potentially replace him.
yankeefeminista April 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Nick, April Fools or link?
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Let’s hope the kid recovers and we don’t wind up being April’s Fools.
Party poopers.
The real quote:
“He was abused,” Cashman told reporters Saturday at Yankee Stadium. “It’s a thin market when you’re looking for lefties, and he’s one of the better ones out there. But you don’t typically go after a guy who’s been used like that. The use pattern was abusive.”
Told of Cashman’s comments, the Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen said, “They didn’t know that when they signed him?”
Warthen, who has been the pitching coach for the Mets since 2008, denied that Feliciano had been abused. But he also acknowledged that the extensive use of Feliciano was a reason the Mets did not re-sign him when Feliciano became a free agent after the season.
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....d-by-mets/
Still would like to know if there was an agenda to trade him at any cost.
yankeefeminista April 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Doubt we’d say that stuff.
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LOL. Doubt the M’s PC would admit to it! That was a refurbished Cashman pearl on Scott Proctor
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Warthen, who has been the pitching coach for the Mets since 2008, denied that Feliciano had been abused. But he also acknowledged that the extensive use of Feliciano was a reason the Mets did not re-sign him when Feliciano became a free agent after the season.
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So they knew something just like Seattle might have.
Caveat emptor.
“IF they wanted to get rid of Montero at any cost, I would like to know why?”
My guess, two things: 1) they wanted to add a high end pitcher (with the potential to be one while being at least a #3 now); 2) they didn’t want to catch Montero, and thought his value would go down if he didn’t catch.
I think the second caused them to move faster than perhaps they should have on the first.
C says he’ll be ready for OD on Friday:
“”I’ll be ready on Friday,” Sabathia said. “Would I like to have had more success (this spring)? Sure. But my pitches are doing what they’re supposed to. I’m ready.”
Sabathia said his main problem on Sunday — incidentally, the Yankees won, 10-8, with two runs in the top of the ninth off their old buddy, Chad Gaudin –was command of his fastball, which he was unable to throw consistently for strikes.
“That’s always the biggest issue for me, fastball command,” he said. “Usually I’m not that bad. Today, I was bad. I had good changeups, my cutter was ok, but my fastball wasn’t locating. I’m not going to have any success if I can’t throw the fastball over the plate.”
Joe Girardi said part of Sabathia’s problem was “he didn’t feel very well today. Physically he was a little under the weather.”
The manager also said he was ‘not really” concerned abotu Sabathia’s lackluster spring carrying over into the regular season. “I think it”ll be there when the bell rings, I really do,” Girardi said. “Guys probably want to have a good tuneup and feel great, but there”s a different adrenaline that comes during the regular season, and I have a feeling it will be there.””
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/
with = or
I think CC has a history of being a slow starter (no pun intended).
Nick, sorry to spoil your fun. But you had to be outed.
That was too disconcerting to let stand.
Oh, right. Feliciano, not Proctor. LOL. Forgot about that.
Yeah, I recall those Feliciano quotes.
2) they didn’t want to catch Montero, and thought his value would go down if he didn’t catch.
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seems like they pulled the trigger real fast.
even if he didn’t catch but hit like a madman would that really lower his value.
maybe they knew something about him, we didn’t.
…now that you mention it.
New thread. No fooling.
Rich in NJ April 1st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
“IF they wanted to get rid of Montero at any cost, I would like to know why?”
My guess, two things: 1) they wanted to add a high end pitcher (with the potential to be one while being at least a #3 now); 2) they didn’t want to catch Montero, and thought his value would go down if he didn’t catch.
I think the second caused them to move faster than perhaps they should have on the first.
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They thought they were excising a tumor from the system.
“”I’ll be ready on Friday,” Sabathia and Swisher said.
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Swisher can’t move laterally but insists he will be ready for the Opener.
Sounds like a sure fire why to aggravate it.
why=way