Spring training Game 32: Yankees at Mets
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Apr 03, 2012 
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YANKEES (17-11-3)
Brett Gardner LF
Nick Swisher DH
Eric Chavez 1B
Andruw Jones RF
Eduardo Nunez SS
Francisco Cervelli C
Dewayne Wise CF
Bill Hall 2B
Doug Bernier 3B
RHP Ivan Nova (2-1, 2.91)
Nova vs. Mets
METS (8-19)
Andres Torres CF
Daniel Murphy 2B
David Wright 3B
Ike Davis 1B
Jason Bay LF
Lucas Duda RF
Scott Hairston DH
Josh Thole C
Ruben Tejada 2B
RHP Mike Pelfrey (1-2, 8.59)
Pelfrey vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 2:05 p.m., Yes Network and MLB Network
WEATHER: Hottest day of the spring. Apparently it’s going to get close to 90 degrees today.
UMPIRES: HP Mark Lollo, 1B D.J. Reyburn, 2B Jonathan Saphire, 3B Sean Barber
A GOOD SIGN: Last night Kentucky won the NCAA basketball championship. The past six times the Wildcats have won a title, the Yankees have also won a World Series (1949, ’51, ’58, ’78, ’96 and ’98). “Now we have to do the work,” said Kentucky fan Brian Cashman.
SPLIT START: Mike Pelfrey has the start for the Mets today, but he’ll essentially split the game with No. 3 starter Jonathan Niese, who will pitch out of the bullpen in preparation for a start Sunday against the Braves.
ONE TO GO: This is the next-to-last game of the spring for the Yankees. They play one more game at home against the Mets tomorrow, then they have a short workout on Thursday’s off day. Opening Day is Friday against the Rays; CC Sabathia vs. James Shields.
UPDATE, 2:15 p.m.: The Associated Press is reporting from Tampa that Andy Pettitte says he will pitch an inning in tomorrow’s big league game. “I bounced back pretty good after that last one, so we feel like an inning would be good tomorrow,” Pettitte said. “I realized I feel good enough to pitch.”
UPDATE, 2:35 p.m.: The Yankees have released 1B Jorge Vazquez. A source says the team prefered free agent addition Steve Pearce at first base in Triple-A, and they weren’t sure Vazquez would have been happy with another season in the minors. It seems the Yankees were never as high on Vazquez as many fans were.
UPDATE, 3:00 p.m.: While Ivan Nova struggles through today’s start, Jack Curry has tweeted that no team has claimed either Jayson Nix or Dewayne Wise. That means neither player can use the out in his contract, which means both will be assigned to Triple-A. Way too many hitters for that Scranton roster. Something has to give at some point.
UPDATE, 3:22 p.m.: Nick Swisher just went deep. Looks like his timing wasn’t affected by that lengthy layoff. He’s hit the bal pretty well since coming back from the second groin injury.
UPDATE, 4:00 p.m.: Just got back from talking to Nova. He said the curveball was the only pitch working for him today. He stressed that he physically feels 100 percent, but he just couldn’t get himself going today. “Not good,” he said. “Today was one of the worst days of my life. I wasn’t pitching right.”
All Pineda needs is to see one of CC’s paychecks and he should have no problem finding the motivation to master the change up.
The Giants have worked out a new contract with Matt Cain that will make him the richest right-hander in baseball history.
Cain, who is set to earn about $15 million in the last year of his contract, will receive a five-year extension for a guaranteed $112.5 million, according to sources.
The guaranteed money includes a $5 million signing bonus and a $7.5 million buyout in 2018.
Cain also receives a full no-trade clause.
The previous record for a right-handed pitcher was Kevin Brown’s $105 million contract the Dodgers gave him after the 1998 season.
randy l. February 21st, 2012 at 8:50 am
“One thing you will have to admit.
It is relatively rare for a guy Pineda’s size to be able to repeat his delivery so well leading to excellent command.”
mtu-
i agree.
it is rare.
the problem is that he repeats a bad delivery the same every time.
i see his weight being in the wrong place as he delivers the ball. his weight is leaning on the outside of his left foot which makes him fall and spin in that direction.
here’s the problem. if a pitching coach cleans that up , pineda may lose his ability to repeat. it’s like a guy with a natural golf swing that’s a little quirky but effective. a golf coach may improve some aspect of it and totally screw the guy up.
pineda falls off to the left. it’s like aj spinning. he gets some benefit from it but some limitations too.
improving pitchers s risky business. everything a pitching coach changes affects everything else.
this is another reason for slow development.
i would seriously consider, if i were the yankee and had committed to starting him the whole year in new york , to limit teaching him too much and limiting teams like the red sox seeing him too often. i;d save him to when they really needed him.
i’d teach him more the second year after he digested new york. in other words if , you are going to rush him, don’t try to change him too much at the same time.
Randy, I do agree with you that working on one thing can impact other items. In fact, you may not even be wrong if one said that he hurt his shoulder trying to work on the change so much; it is surely possible. As someone who writes a blog as a tribute to Mariano Rivera (The Genius Maker is about him) I always thought Rivera would need to learn a change (even if it wasn?t a good one) as he got older. I think I may be wrong about that one? My feeling was that after some guys have fouled off 5 pitches to him just having to throw that pitch even 3-5% of the time would be VERY effective. from what I heard, he tried it a few years ago, but it started to throw off his feel on the cutter so they canned it.
you are wrong about everything else though
Opening Day is just around the corner and all this blog talks about is Jesus Montero who is now a non-issue for the Yankees. I loved the kid but he’s not on my team anymore so I’ve moved on. He’s GONE …get over it!! No one can predict what the future holds for either Jesus or Pineda so why go on and on and on. Why not wait to see what happens before going through all the angst.
How about getting excited for a team that looks pretty darn good and is hopefully going to give Yankee fans another season of terrific baseball. We have Jeter, Grandy, Cano, Alex, Tex, Swish, Ibanez or Andruw, Martin and Gardy. Our pitching…. both starters and BP are looking good too. Why not start focusing on the team and the upcoming season? I can’t wait for this Friday and I can’t wait for Friday the 13th …Opening Day because I’ll be there !!!…
Besides…for all the Montero people (including myself)…just when he’s reaching his prime he’ll be a free agent and if he pans out …he just might be a Yankee again …
. Stranger things have happened …
Go Yankees 2012 !!!!
Mets stringing together a few chinkers off of Nova.
Mets stringing together a few chinkers off of Nova.
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Racist
Man, Nova has gone in the tank this year. Maybe the sabremetric guys were right about him not being able to sustain his success.
Even Jason Bay is tattooing balls off him
Nova up in the Zone. Even Bay gets a hit, which has Rothchild out there ASAP. Bay runs the bases like Grouch Marx.
Nova is the exact opposite of what he was last year. If Pineda was healthy, Nova may be in AAA.
Competition for the Rotation is over. Nova looking to the Reg season.
Nova even hangin’ the curve.
The level of overreaction by some 20 innings in March from Ivan Nova is hilarious.
Get a grip people.
Nova to AAA. Warren to 5th starter….
“Opening Day is just around the corner and all this blog talks about is Jesus Montero who is now a non-issue for the Yankees. I loved the kid but he’s not on my team anymore so I’ve moved on. He’s GONE …get over it!!”
This faction of LoHud is equally as annoying as the one that dares to mention He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.
Well at least we know who Andy Pettitte will likely be replacing if Nova doesn’t get his act together.
Luckily for him Pineda got hurt or he would have been the guy heading to Scranton based on Spring performances.
He has given up a ton of hits and runs and has not impressed at all.
He doesn’t automatically turn it on when the season stars then Girardi will have an easy decision to make once Pettitte is ready.
Nova to the pen!! Let Andy start the season in the rotation. We already know he can since he’s already thrown the must talked about ‘best bullpen session ever.’
/Munson’d
much*
god d*mmit.
“LGY April 3rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The level of overreaction by some 20 innings in March from Ivan Nova is hilarious.
Get a grip people.”
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Overreaction are you serious, he has been given the benefit of the doubt and I have heard few rip into him.
If Phil Hughes was pitching the way he is Hughes would have been torn a new one.
Nova is giving up a ton of hits and runs, that is realty, now he might just turn it on when the season starts, but right now he is the worst of the Yankees starters heading into the season.
I see the nova supporters are out in full effect today. ** sarcasm**
“Shame Spencer April 3rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Nova to the pen!! Let Andy start the season in the rotation. We already know he can since he’s already thrown the must talked about ‘best bullpen session ever.’”
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Neh I would rather if worse comes to worse he is sent down to the minors. to get things together.
Right now he is in the rotation by default, even Pineda would have made this rotation over him if the Spring competition Girardi said was true, if Pineda didn’t get hurt.
“you are wrong about everything else though”
genius maker-
i get that a lot here
mariano did get his two seamer effective in the last few years and also a four seamer if he needs it.
when an athlete does something that’s natural he doesn’t even feel mechanics.
when he learns something new everything feels weird.
jeter went threw this last year when he tried to change.
i’m sure granderson did too.
some change sticks and some doesn’t.
what i said was really stupid , and i stand by it) was the yankees trying ti get pineda to learn a much better change in 6 weeks while he was fighting for a spot in the rotation .
you have to repeat mechanical changes at slow speeds a thousand times as you try to come up to full speed.
and then you spend thousands more reps getting natural with the new thing.
pineda had little chance of success with the yankee plan in spring training.
it’s just another example of spring training silliness on their part.
If you missed it in the updates… The Yankees have released Jorge Vazquez. They prefered Steve Pearce at first base in Triple-A.
LGY April 3rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The level of overreaction by some 20 innings in March from Ivan Nova is hilarious.
Get a grip people.
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Just like you with Ibanez, huh?
OUCH, Nunez.
Yankees are playing this game like they have already gone North. Nunez’s head is obviously elsewhere.
Just like you with Ibanez, huh?
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One guy is a second year player coming off an excellent rookie season. The other is almost 40 years old coming off the worst season of his career and is in clear decline. These two are the same!
No reason to trash Nova, but, he hasn’t looked good this spring, regardless of the few innings or competition.
“god d*mmit.”
shame-
you ever seen dammit dolls?
http://www.dammitdolls.com/main.php
Macfan – I was being facetious. I’m in playoff hockey mode until June anyway, I just come here to watch randy f*ck with everyone.
Poor Chip, I hope he’s not too upset about Vazquez.
Thanks for the update, Chad.
With Love,
Chad’s Girls (who’s questions you no longer answer during your live chats but whatever, Chad, play hard to get all you want, mister, it never lasts!)
Nunez to AA. Maybe single A….
Cashman said he has not gotten any calls on outfielder Justin Maxwell. Despite a great spring, it seems that the Yankees have no spot on the roster for Maxwell, who’s out of option. Is Cashman surprised teams aren’t calling about him? “I don’t know what other people’s needs are out there,” he said.
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And why would he get calls – every other team in baseball knows Maxwell is out of options and doesn’t have a spot on the Yankee roster. Wait until they put him on waivers and get him for nothing instead of trading for him.
Patrick April 3rd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Just like you with Ibanez, huh?
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One guy is a second year player coming off an excellent rookie season. The other is almost 40 years old coming off the worst season of his career and is in clear decline. These two are the same!
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Is SSS different for hitters and pitchers? Does age matter? Does experience matter? Ibanez has had more good games than Nova has. Tell me again that he has looked as good or even close to last year. Not saying that he won’t crank it up by his first start, but, I’d prefer to see something positive today.
I hope Vazquez gets a gig in Japan. Don’t want him hitting bombs against us. Though he’s just a’s likely to strike out!
So the plan is for Pettitte to throw an inning against the Mets, then progress to minor leaguers, and then finally against big leaguers?
Chad Jennings April 3rd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
If you missed it in the updates… The Yankees have released Jorge Vazquez. They prefered Steve Pearce at first base in Triple-A.
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I’m sure he’ll get a job somewhere – has too much power for some team not to take a gamble on him.
Pettitte will start opening day
“So the plan is for Pettitte to throw an inning against the Mets, then progress to minor leaguers, and then finally against big leaguers?”
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ROFL @ Mets < minor leaguers < big leaguers.
Looks like nobody was interested in trading for vazquez, so he’ll head off to Japan and become a superstar, until they too realize he can’t hit a breaking pitch or lay off of them.
LGY April 3rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The level of overreaction by some 20 innings in March from Ivan Nova is hilarious.
Get a grip people.
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If Spring Training performance mattered Josh Phelps would have been an all-star slugger for the Yankees.
This reminds me of the conversation that was going on here last week when I discovered that Nunez is so talented at what he does and so irreplaceable on the NYY that we couldn’t trade him.. for anything remotely valuable.
Shame Spencer April 3rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Poor Chip, I hope he’s not too upset about Vazquez.
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He’s not.
Minor League Umps are showing why they are Bushers. That groundball ball down the RF line was foul. HP Ump inconsistent.
Is SSS different for hitters and pitchers? Does age matter? Does experience matter? Ibanez has had more good games than Nova has. Tell me again that he has looked as good or even close to last year. Not saying that he won’t crank it up by his first start, but, I’d prefer to see something positive today.
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Small sample size is equally irrelevant for Ibanez and Nova. Both have looked bad this spring. It is a legitimate opinion to be down on Ibanez because the larger sample shows that he will likely be very ineffective this year, perhaps even a detriment to the team if he gets enough play time. The larger sample size says Nova will likely be a solid middle of the rotation starting pitcher and due to his age it’s possible he will be even better.
I understand why you want to see Nova pitch well today but comparing him to Ibanez is not valid in any way.
Chip – Glad to hear it, I started associating Vazquez with you the way I do Cano with Erin and Jeter with Jerkface
i wonder if maxwell is suffering from jon weber syndrome?
I like the line in Chad’s update that the Yankees didn’t think Vazquez would have been happy with another year in the minors – ya think?
Forget the fact he would have had to do another year in the minors – with Cust, Branyan and Pearce he would have been buried on the bench.
I’m not going to suggest that Ibanez is going to have a stellar year – but he did get signed a little later than other players so he came into camp later – and towards the end his hitting has started to come around a bit – just saying, there’s reason for some hope.
Speaking of me, I just want to let you know I’ve been invited to 2 secret boards where the selling point is that none of you are here. Of course that won’t stop me from posting here as well.
What I tell you about HP Ump??
Joe from Long Island April 3rd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
i wonder if maxwell is suffering from jon weber syndrome?
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Perhaps, Joe, except that Maxwell can play they outfield and run the bases.
Vazquez might hit 30-40 HRs in Japan. Might also strike out 150 times.
Jerkface April 3rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Speaking of me, I just want to let you know I’ve been invited to 2 secret boards where the selling point is that none of you are here. Of course that won’t stop me from posting here as well.
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I have a hard time believing they’re as much fun as we are
We’re a family here. And I wish people would start to treat the other posters on here more like their family members and completely ignore them and their good-for-nothing opinions and criticisms.
Make everyday like Thanksgiving.
Cashman, Girardi, etc, go with a track record when the choice is close between 2 players. That’s why Ibanez is a Yankee.
“Speaking of me, I just want to let you know I’ve been invited to 2 secret boards where the selling point is that none of you are here.”
Memories…
I have a hard time believing they’re as much fun as we are
We’re a family here. And I wish people would start to treat the other posters on here more like their family members and completely ignore them and their good-for-nothing opinions and criticisms.
Make everyday like Thanksgiving.
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Like family? Maybe the Manson family.
” I’m in playoff hockey mode until June anyway, I just come here to watch randy f*ck with everyone.”
shame spencer-
i’m telling you, you’re gonna like those dammit dolls.
the idea is you whack the crap out of them and get it all out.
http://www.dammitdolls.com/main.php
i sent one to gb7 , but the doll took out a restraining order in him
Speaking of me, I just want to let you know I’ve been invited to 2 secret boards where the selling point is that none of you are here. Of course that won’t stop me from posting here as well.
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I might be there
I’m not going to suggest that Ibanez is going to have a stellar year – but he did get signed a little later than other players so he came into camp later – and towards the end his hitting has started to come around a bit – just saying, there’s reason for some hope.
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Then you look at his last few years in the majors and all hope is crushed.
sportsJC16
“Nova has one month to get it together. if he can’t Pettite or Pineda will take his spot in the rotation. He can’t afford to fail. #yankees.”
27 mins ago via twitter.
Thanks for the link randy I meant to respond before but had to do some “work.”
Those things looked so foul I loved them immediately.
Ibanez signed before position players had to report to camp, he did not show up later.
“Like family? Maybe the Manson family.”
We do all choose to be here lol… but lets pretend that’s where to comparisons stop…
..until we meet under the Paul O’Neill banner, anyway.
“Those things looked so foul I loved them immediately.”
shame-
with your sense of humor, i figured you’d appreciate them.
Shame Spencer April 3rd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
“Like family? Maybe the Manson family.”
We do all choose to be here lol… but lets pretend that’s where to comparisons stop…
..until we meet under the Paul O’Neill banner, anyway.
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Yes, and they all chose to be there, too. The comparison sticks.
Can’t afford to fail? If Girardi didn’t guarantee him a slot after his second half last year, and if Nova didn’t say the things he’s said (i.e. he deserves certain things) then he wouldn’t have to back up his words.
Pitching is an up and down thing. Other pitchers come along. Even good pitchers get sent down. But everyone was insulted that Nova would even be considered a candidate.
Nova said it himself, if you do your job…that also means if you don’t do your job…
Throw Nova out of the game. suspend him. He’s throwing at the hitters, the jerk.
Throw Nova out of the game. suspend him. He’s throwing at the hitters, the jerk.
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He’s given up 8 hits and 2 walks in less than 3 innings, ya think maybe his control isn’t spot on today?
I don’t know what the deal is this spring with Nova. Maybe he’s the type that needs a jolt to get him to compete.
Patrick April 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Throw Nova out of the game. suspend him. He’s throwing at the hitters, the jerk.
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He’s given up 8 hits and 2 walks in less than 3 innings, ya think maybe his control isn’t spot on today?
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Completely over your head…as usual. Those were mild compared to what was said yesterday when montero was hit.
SJ is a respected baseball fan but he does tend to overreact at times.
Its still spring training for those of you who hadn’t realized these games don’t matter at all
Nova hasn’t been good this spring…..but shouldn’t we at least see how he does in games that matter before planning the exit strategy for a kid who won 16 games and was on the ROY ballot last year?
If NY decides on a long man/spot starter going north, it’s got to be between Phelps and Mitchell.
Doubt Cash is questioning himself about the Pineda deal.
For those who say it was unnecessary, they are overlooking the fact that Nova and Hughes are not mortal locks, Kuroda is here for 1 year and Andy is not a given.
Thanks for Freddy Garcia unless you are ready for 3 unproven AAA pitchers.
Completely over your head…as usual. Those were mild compared to what was said yesterday when montero was hit.
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Sorry, sarcasm doesn’t translate well over plain text. Thanks for the insult though
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
If NY decides on a long man/spot starter going north, it’s got to be between Phelps and Mitchell.
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That’s how things are inevitably going to shake out but I’m not the biggest fan of sticking another kid in the pen unable to log innings to build up his arm ala Noesi last season.
blake April 3rd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Its still spring training for those of you who hadn’t realized these games don’t matter at all Nova hasn’t been good this spring…..but shouldn’t we at least see how he does in games that matter before planning the exit strategy for a kid who won 16 games and was on the ROY ballot last year?
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so was Pineda, but it didn’t stop people on here from wanting him in AAA. Regardless of whether it’s ST or not, Nova hasn’t looked good all spring.
GreenBeret7 says: April 3, 2012 at 2:38 pm LGY April 3rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm The level of overreaction by some 20 innings in March from Ivan Nova is hilarious.
Get a grip people.
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Just like you with Ibanez, huh?
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As long as Nova’s elbow is ok (they can cause command issues), he will be at least decent. So that would be my only concern.
“Yes, and they all chose to be there, too. The comparison sticks.”
I know I know.. it just hits too close to home
Whats funny is that no one said anything like that when Montero got hit. GB7 literally made up an event and then tried to satire his own imagination.
GreenBeret7 says: April 3, 2012 at 2:38 pm LGY April 3rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm The level of overreaction by some 20 innings in March from Ivan Nova is hilarious.
Get a grip people.
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Just like you with Ibanez, huh?
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Suffering from memory loss?
We went through this the other day. Produce a single post from me criticizing Ibanez since ST started.
..until we meet under the Paul O’Neill banner, anyway.
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Remember, no weapons allowed.
“We went through this the other day. Produce a single post from me criticizing Ibanez since ST started.”
He conflates several of us. Probably referencing my posts and assigning to you, because…
Giuseppe Franco April 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
If NY decides on a long man/spot starter going north, it’s got to be between Phelps and Mitchell.
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That’s how things are inevitably going to shake out but I’m not the biggest fan of sticking another kid in the pen unable to log innings to build up his arm ala Noesi last season.
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Wel, GF, both Mitchell and Phelps are on the 40 man roster and Warren isn’t. I could even see putting Phelps or Mitchell in the pen for 3-4 weeks and swapping spots with the other in AAA to keep the innings up.
You guys also gotta remember it was NOT just a 2 player deal.
sportsJC16
“Nova is why you have constant competition for the spots in the pitching rotation. He’s been awful all spring. #yankees.”
52 mins ago via twitter.
Watch your language; I’m bringing my little brother.
Jerkface April 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Whats funny is that no one said anything like that when Montero got hit. GB7 literally made up an event and then tried to satire his own imagination.
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Go back and read it again. You were one of them.
Nova’s projected April starts (barring rainouts)
4/9 At Camden Yards
4/15 Vs Angels’
4/20 At Fenway
4/25 At Rangers
Not going to be anywhere to hide. Doesn’t surprise me that he was dead today coming off outing where he pushed into eighth inning. With short outing today and extra day of rest, I would look for him to be quite a bit sharper against the O’s. Better be, because it’s not getting any easier for a while.
Bronx Jeers April 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
..until we meet under the Paul O’Neill banner, anyway.
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Remember, no weapons allowed.
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There are no rules under the Paul O’Neill banner – nice try though, Bronx. I still have every intention of showing up with my glowing trident. No one messes with you when you’re carrying a glowing trident.
Go back and read it again. You were one of them.
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I called the Rockies pitcher a dick and say Montero looked pissed. No one said to suspend him or throw him out of the game. You made it up. Everyone else circle jerked over how tough Montero is to get hit in the head and still be alive, which I did not take part in.
So you did infact, make up something, then satire it, then say your satire was ‘mild compared to what was said yesterday’, when infact you are the most extreme.
Enjoy!
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
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Wel, GF, both Mitchell and Phelps are on the 40 man roster and Warren isn’t. I could even see putting Phelps or Mitchell in the pen for 3-4 weeks and swapping spots with the other in AAA to keep the innings up.
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I wouldn’t have any issues with switching those two back and forth every few weeks. Don’t know that the FO would execute it that way, though.
Truth be told, I suppose sticking a kid with a future with the team (or someone else) in the long man role is a much better alternative than having a veteran like Mitre or Gaudin with no future in that role.
Nova has pitched better on the Road, so having 3 of 4 Away to start the season, should help him.
Watch your language; I’m bringing my little brother.
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The one they almost traded AJ for?
And I didn’t just invent that “no weaponry” rule out of thin air. Check the LoHud TOS.
Giuseppe Franco April 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
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Wel, GF, both Mitchell and Phelps are on the 40 man roster and Warren isn’t. I could even see putting Phelps or Mitchell in the pen for 3-4 weeks and swapping spots with the other in AAA to keep the innings up.
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I wouldn’t have any issues with switching those two back and forth every few weeks. Don’t know that the FO would execute it that way, though.
Truth be told, I suppose sticking a kid with a future with the team (or someone else) in the long man role is a much better alternative than having a veteran like Mitre or Gaudin with no future in that role.
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Was just looking at how to keep both ready to move in if necessary. Will be using an option anyway, so make it a useful one. I’d like to keep Warren pitching in a rotation, though. He’s possibly got the best stuff of the three, but, just needs to tweak a couple of things.
gf – hi. hope you are well.
that’s kind of my thought about the long man role, also. besides, it would make phelps/mitchell/warren feel like they have no role/future with the team. not the best for organizational morale, i think.
of course, i have no idea what’s the deal with nova today, maybe he’s just bored. who knows. but, if does bring up questions. that’s only natural. again, it’s why you…..never…..have…..enough…..starting pitching.
got to run, but be well.
I believe there was a language warning along with the “no weapons” request, but it’s been a while.
Mitchell or Phelps in the long man role is ok if they give them the innings, but the Yankees havent proven they can manage that players innings. So in that case I hope Mitchell wins out, since he has been ticketed for the pen for a while by scouts. I’d rather not have a guy that can be a potential MLB starter get 50 innings in a season.
maine yankee-
that flaherty kid from maine made the orioles.
http://www.pressherald.com/spo.....04-03.html
re: Andrew Bailey
“Alex Speier of WEEI.com was told by a major league source that Andrew Bailey’s injury is believed to involve the ulnar collateral ligament in his right thumb.”
probably out 4 months?
TJS on a thumb, thats a first.
Maybe it wasn’t a great idea to take his son to an indoor thumbwrestling facility during spring training, but he shouldn’t have to apologize for being a father.
Whats funny is that no one said anything like that when Montero got hit. GB7 literally made up an event and then tried to satire his own imagination
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He basically performed two levels of inception on himself. Not sure if I should be impressed or feel sorry for him.
Nick in SF April 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Maybe it wasn?t a great idea to take his son to an indoor thumbwrestling facility during spring training, but he shouldn?t have to apologize for being a father.
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BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
re: Andrew Bailey
“Alex Speier of WEEI.com was told by a major league source that Andrew Bailey’s injury is believed to involve the ulnar collateral ligament in his right thumb.”
probably out 4 months?
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Boston will do anything to be the first to do something. I can see the decrepit fingers of Bobby Valentine in this. anything to get an edge.
“TJS on a thumb, thats a first.”
For Bailey’s sake, there better be a surgeon who disagrees…
Krazy Kyle Farnsworth looks like he’ll be DL bound to start the season too.
Looks like Bailey won’t be hitch-hiking for awhile.
“Alex Speier of WEEI.com was told by a major league source that Andrew Bailey’s injury is believed to involve the ulnar collateral ligament in his right thumb.”
Lol at not even knowing what an ulnar collateral ligament is.
if anyone wants the source on the Bailey UCL claim:
http://www.weei.com/sports/bos.....nvolve-ucl
“A Grade 3, which does include surgery, has the patient coming back anywhere from 2-3 months, with a cast needed between 4-6 weeks.”
Look I agree that if Nova doesn’t perform better once the season starts then he will likely be the first man out when Pineda or Andy is ready…..but Im going to cut him some slack and wait until the games count to judge….he’s had the deck stacked against him before
BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Wow! That has to hurt!
So apparently there is also an ulnar collateral ligament of the thumb…..so I retract my sarcasm.
Joe,
All is well on this end. Thanks for asking.
Yeah, I think Jerk is right – the Yanks haven’t proved they could manage their innings in that pen unless the rotation really takes a hit and more starters come up lame.
The shoulder tendonitis with Pineda along with the obvious concerns with Pettitte and whatever is up with Nova are good reasons why I don’t think the Yanks are going to be in a hurry to trade away Garcia.
You’re typically going to need at least 7-8 starters to get through a typical 162 game grind as it is and that’s if they stay relatively healthy.
Buchholz last ST start – sitting 89-91 mph with the fastball.
he’s getting guys out though.
Bailey’s thumb surgeon is the best in the business. He also operates on squirrels, marmots, and Pedroias.
Marc Carig @MarcCarig Ivan Nova called it “the worst day of my life. I wasn’t pitching right.”
“Buchholz last ST start – sitting 89-91 mph with the fastball”
Shoulder tendonitis? just kidding
Erin April 3rd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Marc Carig @MarcCarig Ivan Nova called it “the worst day of my life. I wasn’t pitching right.”
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Sad Nova
BTW Erin, did you ever see the post about the Robinson Ca-Gnomes?
Nick in SF April 3rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
You got me! LMAO!
And Nick – I won’t curse… but I’m still bringing my trident.
Jack Curry @JackCurryYES Nova said he didn’t have command of any of pitches. Said Rothschild told him he looked lazy. Nova said his body felt lazy. Said arm was OK
Shame-no! I like the sound of it very much though.
“@JackCurryYES Nova said he didn’t have command of any of pitches. Said Rothschild told him he looked lazy. Nova said his body felt lazy. Said arm was OK”
randy
Is that pitching coaches’s code for something?
Well, I think GB pointed out that for one of the Trenton games they were giving out Robinson Ca-Gnomes. I’ve volunteered to go to the game and get you one… I just need to find out when it is lol!
I want Nova to do good….
Jack Curry @JackCurryYES Nova said he has 2 bullpen sessions before 1st start vs O’s to regain command of pitches. Said he needs to 4get about spring. Won’t be easy
Do wonder how long they’ll wait if Nova struggles in his first couple of starts if Pineda or Pettite is ready…..
Shame Spencer April 3rd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Well, I think GB pointed out that for one of the Trenton games they were giving out Robinson Ca-Gnomes. I?ve volunteered to go to the game and get you one? I just need to find out when it is lol!
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Seriously?! That’s awesome.
You’d officially be one of my favorite people if you got me a Ca-gnome.
“Is that pitching coaches’s code for something?”
rich in nj-
beats me.
all eyes will be on him when the season strarts.
i really like nova, so i expect this will be just a little blip in the road.
plus, who did the yankees give up to get him?
kind of nice to be playing with house money.
Erin, the Robinson Ca-Gnome give away in 8 July. It’s a lawn/garden orniment and made somewhat like Pedroia, only, it’s obviously taller and has hair. The Pedroia one looks more like a leprichaun than a gmone, though both are pretty hideous.
Here’s the Ca-Gnome info.
http://www.oursportscentral.co.....id=4373812
Thanks, randy.
The only issue with Nova as far as I’m concerned is/was whether or not he or Noesi should have been the one to be traded, assuming they weren’t keeping both.
I haven’t been able to walk past the Paul O’Neil banner for quite some time without laughing like an idiot and checking my peripheral vision for potential melee’s & attackers. Be vigilant. Stay frosty.
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Erin, the Robinson Ca-Gnome give away in 8 July. It?s a lawn/garden orniment and made somewhat like Pedroia, only, it?s obviously taller and has hair. The Pedroia one looks more like a leprichaun than a gmone, though both are pretty hideous.
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July 8th is a Sunday. I’m so there, Erin!
rich in nj-
it’s a given that all the starters ecept for sabathia and kuroda have to win to stay in the rotation.
hughes, nova, garcia, and pineda when he comes back will have to not have more than three bad starts in a row or they will be replaced.
that’s just a fact of life as long as everyone’s healthy.
i’m not concerned about nova now, but i would be if he has a bad game in his first regular season game.
nice to see Swisher coming back and hitting with some power….even if it doesn’t mean anything or count…since it’s a SSS.
Rich – I feel like Noesi might be the forgotten piece around here until he starts to perform.. sort of Kennedy-esque.
Shame Spencer April 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
July 8th is a Sunday. I?m so there, Erin!
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Shame, I love you.
G. Love April 3rd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
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Constant vigilance!!!
(made much easier when holding a trident)
Jack Curry @JackCurryYES Swisher, who had HR and a double 2day, said he simplified his swing the other day. Hes not trying to overdo things. So far, he likes results
I think Nova will be fine. But if he doesn’t figure it out by the time Andy is ready, it’ll be a pretty easy decision on who gets bumped from the rotation. These things usually work themselves out.
Erin – I just need to get more people to come with me that don’t require the enticement of having their very own Ca-Gnome.
Either that.. or I’ll bring an extra $10 to bribe the employees
Jack Curry @JackCurryYES Some Yankees who have exited the game are eating Carrabbas. OK, I am officially hungry.
Carrabbas? Like… From NJ?
Shame
I like that Noesi misses bats.
Shame,
Great idea. If I could get a Trident into the Stadium I’d probably use it to steal people’s food and maybe threaten some of the people who take pictures of themselves all game long rather than watch the game.
Last season two foreign girls sat in front of me and took about 300 pictures of themselves giggling, holding a hot dog & wearing a Yankee cap that they passed to one another for the pictures. I don’t even think they ate the hot dog. I asked them if they were posing for some food fetish site but the language barrier prevented the appropriate response or so I like to believe. My wife seriously considered strangling them. I kept asking them what the score was. They didn’t seem to know.
If I had a Trident I would have, at the very least, taken the hot dog.
Erin April 3rd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Jack Curry @JackCurryYES Some Yankees who have exited the game are eating Carrabbas. OK, I am officially hungry.
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How do you prepare Carrabbas? Are they anything like lobster or carabs.
See, G.Love, that’s where we’re different because if I had a trident in that situation I would make it glow brightly (an implied power of possessing a trident) until everyone sitting around me moved over/up/back 3 seats/rows. The glowing of my trident would create a “don’t f*ck with me” barrier that no one would be able to penetrate.
Pat Venditte coming in to the game?
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Pat Venditte coming in to the game?
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Um, awesome! Please let that happen..
I love the marsala sauce at Carrabaas
Thought it would be a waste of a 40 man roster on the yankee roster to use for Venditte. He’s more gimmick than prospect.
Coffee Joe had to take Venditte out. Boo!
Marc Carig ? @MarcCarig
It’s been a rough day when the manager doesn’t like the way you match up with either arm.
Kyle “Holy” Roller gets his first at bat
Needs to go to church more.
Pena throws like his old man.
“Mr. johnson. Any words of wisdom?” Kate Upton must be an Acadamy Award winner to say that with a straight face.
All right. This should be fun. Mark Montgomery is pitching.
GB…..You’re boy Monty is coming in……
not something that I saw much of in Charleston last year.
Well that wad quick
Looks like Ike was sitting dead red….Wow did he get all of that ….
Pat,
LMAO. Didn’t last long, did he? That something that he just didn’t do much of. Allow homers.
They ought to trade Montgomery while he still has value.
Just kidding. I’m interested in this kid too.
GB-
Not to worry.
Chase Wright’s MLB debut was way worse.
He’s got the delivery and same fastball that a younger David Robertson had. Slider is as nasty as Robertson’t curve.
I feel like someone just kicked my dog, “Killer” in the egg basket.
MTU April 3rd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
GB-
Not to worry.
Chase Wright’s MLB debut was way worse.
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People forget that Wright retired the first nine hitters he ever faced. That’s where it all went wrong. I blame Torre, though. He left Wright in to get over exposed.
One more frickin’ game and then it begins for real.
Shoulda left in Venditte.
The new movie by Tom Clancy featuring the NY Yankees is coming out :
“The Hunt for late October”.
It’s a thriller.
GB-
I think they pulled Wright directly from AA to face the Sux.
That wasn’t very nice.
GB……I was told this winter that Monty is a guy to watch as he’s going to be a fast mover…….This was from the same scout who told me that Brackman should be in the pen
MTU April 3rd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
GB-
I think they pulled Wright directly from AA to face the Sux.
That wasn’t very nice.
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should have pulled him after the 9th hitter. Torre would have looked like a genius then.
MTU……You’re absolutley correct about Chase being plucked from AA Ball….In fact I don’t think he was in AA that long before he was called up…..Thing is, he was 1 pitch away from getting out of that inning….Sunday Night baseball pitching in Fenway, tough gig …..
Pat,
Montgomery doesn’t appear to be the type that will be bothered much by this. He was drafted last June. Not a lot of experience. He will be fun to watch when the fans in the stands start posting his strikeout totals. Just needs to fine tune his control, but, that ball moves so fast out of the strike zone. His slider reminds me of Burnett’s knuckle curve with the fast break.
GB-
Unfortunately it turned out to be a rather inauspicious start and a day that lives in infamy.
Like Pearl Harbor. Lot’s of bombs by the enemy against an unprepared defender. A damn not so sneak, sneak attack.
Poor Chase. PTBSD victim I’d imagine.
Pat M.-
Talk about being thrown to the Lions Yankee style.
Sheesh !
New thread —->