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Yankees ready to schedule Pineda’s shoulder rehab

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 03, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees will meet with Michael Pineda tomorrow to begin discussing a rehab schedule. Last season, Phil Hughes missed six months because of shoulder tendinitis. Is that a fair expectation for Pineda?

“I don’t think that at all,” general manager Brian Cashman said. “I don’t think they’re in the same category. I think there’s levels of inflammation in tendinitis and his is a nice light one. Hughes’ was much more significant.”

Cashman said that the only long-term injury suffered this spring was Joba Chamberlain’s dislocated ankle. Everything else was “just short-term stuff.” Cashman even expects Cesar Cabral to pitch again this season after suffering a stress fracture in his pitching elbow.

As for Pineda, neither Cashman nor Joe Girardi would estimate a return date, but it’s clear they don’t expect this injury to cost him significant time.

“Let’s get him going again, and then we’ll pace him after that,” Cashman said. “But it’s not a significant issue so, knock on wood.”

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260 Responses to “Yankees ready to schedule Pineda’s shoulder rehab”

  1. Betsy April 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Let’s just hope the tendonitis doesn’t linger and affect Pineda the way it did Joba. Aside from that, at least it’s not a Hughes situation.

  2. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    What it is and what it will be are not known.

  3. RadioKev April 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    I’ve been obsessing over fantasy baseball the past two nights, two drafts. I love the heck out of one of my teams…

    C Brian McCann
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    BN Chase Headley
    BN Daniel Murphy
    BN Jim Thome (dropping him…)

    SP Cole Hamels
    SP Madison Bumgarner
    P Yu Darvish
    P Josh Johnson
    P Phil Hughes
    P Mark Melancon
    RP Sergio Santos
    RP Grant Balfour
    BN Vance Worley
    BN Matt Thorton

    Just had to share my ridiculously hype-tastic team.

  4. Bronx Jeers April 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    My advice to Pineda ?

    Run away.

  5. m April 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Hughes was out 6 mths? Doesn’t sound right.

    Hughes would be Pineda’s best resource for rehab info.

  6. Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Again, what was the cause?

  7. Nilsson April 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    My advice to Pineda is follow the rehab and do not jump on trampolines. If he does, then the odds should be in his favor.

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  9. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Nilsson April 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    My advice to Pineda is follow the rehab and do not jump on trampolines. If he does, then the odds should be in his favor.
    ///

    Entrusting your pitching development to the Yankees is a kind of metaphorical trampoline.

  10. Betsy April 3rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    I don’t think you can use another player’s injury as a baseline for your own as each player is different in severity and degree of injury plus in how they heal.

    Phil was out a month or so, I believe. Didn’t he return after the ASB?

  11. Mike_Boston April 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    m April 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Hughes was out 6 mths? Doesn’t sound right.
    ———————————————————
    He wasn’t out the entire 6 months but his arm strength didn’t really come back till the end of the season, if I remember correctly.

  12. Nilsson April 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    I like reading your posts, Prufrock. But I do think you’re way too conspiratorial in your thinking, especially when it comes to Yankee pitching development personnel.

    My opinion is that development of young pitchers, in general, is a non-linear process.

  13. Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    “I think there’s levels of inflammation in tendinitis and his is a nice light one.”

    Sort of an oxymoron, and given that his velo was down about 4-5 mph and there was a cut on his FB, it must have been altering his mechanics…or did his usual mechanics cause the inflammation?

  14. Bronx Jeers April 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Hughes had 3 starts in April then got DL’d till July 6th. Nearly 3 months.

  15. m April 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Mike,

    Thanks. I think Chad needs to check his facts. ;)

  16. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Hello again from Andruw Jones hometown
    If I want to e-mail Chad, how do i do it? I’ve been trying to figure it out, but I don’t seem to find it

  17. ron April 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Take a look at 2 great changeups in this video by hughes.
    The first is 31 seconds in,and the second one is 41 seconds in.

    Look closely at the second one,wich bites down hard.

    If hughes can master that pitch,look out.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......8;c_id=mlb

  18. Mike_Boston April 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    M,
    I thought maybe Chad meant he wasn’t himself for 6 months, but you’re right, he said “missed”.

  19. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Hi Rich,

    The only talk we are going to do about the son is when he gets his extension.

  20. Stoneburner April 3rd, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    I like the Campos kid – maybe they were right – he could turn out to be the real prize of the entire trade and the best of whole lot:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....oVqNOWySm8

  21. Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    What’s up, luis?

    I can’t hear you… :D

  22. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
    What’s up, luis?

    I can’t hear you…

    ===============

    :D

  23. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Forget about my previous question. I figure it out. Sometimes I can be very dumb.

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Nilsson April 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
    I like reading your posts, Prufrock. But I do think you’re way too conspiratorial in your thinking, especially when it comes to Yankee pitching development personnel.

    My opinion is that development of young pitchers, in general, is a non-linear process.
    ///

    Mr. Nilsson, I half agree. It certainly can’t be taken for granted that a pitcher’s development will follow a linear path. In fact, development, may be a misnomer.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Wax your poetics fanboy, about a guy who is in A ball and doesn’t even have a real breaking pitch yet.

  26. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    At the moment of the trade. Some experts said that Campos would tilt the trade in favor of the Yankees. He looks very good, thanks for the link.

  27. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Stoneburner:

    NL scout:

    ”Before you pass judgement on Pineda, Jose Campos was the best young pitcher I saw all winter–easy 100?

  28. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    For those that remember her from this blog, Rebecca has restarted her blog Purist Loves Pinstripes after a year and a half hiatus

    http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com/

  29. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    But, he is very far away still. I still would say that the B’s could be both very good.

  30. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    Hi Jap!

    I will e-mail Chad to send you some information.

  31. Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    What’s not to like about Campos, except the cost.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    ron April 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
    Take a look at 2 great changeups in this video by hughes.
    The first is 31 seconds in,and the second one is 41 seconds in.

    Look closely at the second one,wich bites down hard.

    If hughes can master that pitch,look out.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play……8;c_id=mlb
    ///

    Good link. Yes, the change has looked good. Some nice fade on that second one too. Personally, the most exciting thing about this upcoming season is that Phil Hughes appears to be back. I don’t think I could possibly root harder for a Yankee player this year.

  33. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    BD,

    He is not better than Banuelos yet. Top 100 is a little over the top IMO

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
    Hi Jap!

    I will e-mail Chad to send you some information.
    ///

    Luis primo? :D

    I’ve already given him my email to pass onto you (it’s only for you, btw).

  35. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    luis,

    I don’t disagree.

    that scout still had his opinion, and I’m more than pleased that Campos was even in the discussion for “best young pitcher of the winter”

    When you toss in Campos and Depaula, any of the Yanks top 5 pitching prospects could be the #1 on some teams’ list.

  36. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Thanks for the link BD,

    I just read that Torre’s number is going to be retired. What do you guys think about it?

  37. ron April 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 pm
    ron April 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
    Take a look at 2 great changeups in this video by hughes.
    The first is 31 seconds in,and the second one is 41 seconds in.

    Look closely at the second one,wich bites down hard.

    If hughes can master that pitch,look out.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play&…..8;c_id=mlb
    ///

    Good link. Yes, the change has looked good. Some nice fade on that second one too. Personally, the most exciting thing about this upcoming season is that Phil Hughes appears to be back. I don’t think I could possibly root harder for a Yankee player this year.

    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    I think hughes is going to have a great year.

    Yes,the 2nd changeup bit down hard,and faded away nicely.

    I absolutely love that pitch for hughes,and think that can turn him into an elite pitcher,if he uses it enough,and at the right time.
    His fb is back,and his control,and command are insane again.
    I wan’t the changeup to be a little bit more than a show me pitch for hughes.

    Very smart kid.

  38. Pat M. April 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    BD ( Boston Dave ) ……..Thanks for the headsup……Rebecca had great insights and one hell of a gifted writer……

  39. Pat M. April 3rd, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Luis….Check the date of Rebecca’s article on Torre’s number

  40. Jacques Strappe April 3rd, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    If ST is evidence of hat to expect out of the gate (and often its not) then it seems Nova should be most worried about his spot.

    But of course it’s not an indication of what to expect, otherwise CC would be the next most worried about keeping HIS spot.

    If anyone’s struggling out of the gate, except for CC or Kuroda, then we can expect Pineda bump him. Then it’ll be “lather, rinse, repeat” all over again when Pettitte becomes ripe.

    If it’s May before someone struggles enough to be bumped, then either Pineda or Pettitte could bump them. Only thing hard to predict in that scenario is which of the two would come first.

    I think Kuroda will be the 5th best starter on the team, even if he’s not ‘slotted’ 5th in the rotation. Steady but not spectacular is my impression of him, which is usually good enough to be the 3rd or 4th best on the team. But there’s more talent this year so he could be 5th best, which would mean there are 4 better pitchers on the team. Not a knock on Kuoda, its a good thing to have as a team.

    I realize it’s sacrilidge on this blog to have this opinion. But I see Hughes having a better year than he did 2010, while I don’t see Nova having quite the year he had in 2011. Barring an injury to anyone becoming a factor, I see Nova as being the first one bumped with Garcia second on the spot. Even if they’re all pitching equal to or better than Kuroda, someone else will get bumped. That’s kinda foolish if you think about it.

    My thoughts are CC and a much sharper Hughes become the 1-2 punch this year.

    They won’t bump Kuroda at least not in the beginning of the year. If he’s 10-9/4.50 in late August and there are 5 other pitchers having better seasons, or if someone else becomes the hot hand at the time, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’d bump Kuroda to long relief or at least ‘platoon’ him with someone else for matchups in September.

    Pineda might be outta shape now and hopefully he will learn from the setbacks. He’ll show flashes this year. Next winter / spring I hope gets Hughes’ motivation and he comes to spring training ’13 in shape. Then he’ll become more dominant. The Montero trade was for the ‘Pineda Project’, don’t expect the fully finished product this year.

    Playoff rotation this year: CC, Hughes, Pettitte … Garcia or matchup of the du jour.

  41. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    luis April 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
    Hi Jap!

    I will e-mail Chad to send you some information.
    ///

    Luis primo?

    I’ve already given him my email to pass onto you (it’s only for you, btw).

    ===========

    Hey Jap!,

    You liked the primo thing huh?……Don’t worry about it, it will be kept in reserve. I am asking him to pass along mine.

  42. hardwired7 April 3rd, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Good luck to Rebecca. Hers is just one of the many voices that missed around here.

  43. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Pat M. April 3rd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
    Luis….Check the date of Rebecca’s article on Torre’s number

    ===============

    Thanks Pat, I guess I had to fall for one after all! :)

  44. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Peter Gammons tweet from today:

    “Yanks, Bosox want to get under $190M by 2014. FA P deals mean Pineda, Campos, Banuelos, Bard, Ranaudo, Workman, H, Owens huge future keys”

    Would you rather rely on Pineda, Campos, Banuelos, (he missed Betances, DePaula, Phelps/Warren, etc)

    or

    Bard (except he’s due to be a FA by 2015 I believe? oh, and he hasn’t looked good, ever as a pro, as a starter), Renaudo (stock falling), Workman (seriously? wouldn’t be in the Yanks top 10-12), Barnes (rookie), and Owens (rookie)?

    funny funny… good luck Boston

  45. Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    “I think Kuroda will be the 5th best starter on the team”

    If this is true (which I doubt), they will be nearly unbeatable.

  46. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Pat M,

    I believe I read that Rebecca had done some writing for ESPN and BP.

    not bad!

  47. m April 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    If Andy is Andy, it’s CC, Andy, Hughes for me in a potential playoff run.

    I hope Pineda bounces back as completely and quickly as Hughes did. He would make the rotation very strong if he did.

    I don’t expect Nova to pitch that ERA all year. But he will get hit some as he does pitch to contact.

  48. ron April 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Don’t forget jose ramirez.

  49. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    ron,

    I used to never forget ramirez… but have been lately.

    It’s easy to forget guys on the yanks these days because there are so many.

    that’s why I stuck the etc. there.

    not many teams have an “etc…” after you list the first few top pitching prospects :)

  50. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    based on RAB (I updated):

    Top Yankee Pitching Prospects

    1. Banuelos
    2. Betances
    3. Campos
    4. DePaula (?)
    5. Warren
    6. Phelps
    7. Marshall
    8. DJ Mitchell
    9. Brian Mitchell
    10. Turley
    11. Montgomery
    12. Stoneburner
    13. Camarena
    14. Cabral
    15. Whitley

    ron, where would you put Ramirez on that list? or at the end?

  51. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Jacques Strappe,

    Good post, I do think that Hughes is going to have a career year. Saying Kuroda is going to be the 5th best starter, if it becomes a reality, it means that we have seriously good rotation. I just don’t think he is going to be the fifth best starter, the guy can pitch and his stuff still very good.

    On Nova, i do agree that he may have a little bit of a regression. But is not going to be as bad as some people may fear. He just have to find consistency, he wasn’t as bad as his numbers suggest.

    On Garcia, I think he will be the first to be either traded or converted in to the long man. He has no future with the organization, therefore he is the more expendable. Of course, we still have to see how the other pitchers perform, but it has to be a mayor implosion, to expect Garcia to have role with the team past May 15st at the latest.

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Hey Jap!,

    You liked the primo thing huh?……Don’t worry about it, it will be kept in reserve. I am asking him to pass along mine.
    ///

    I’ll look out for it, luis!

  53. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    BD,

    Is that the actual list from RAB? I am surprise to see Phelps or Warren higher than Marshall. I haven’t seen DePaula to have an opinion, but I think his upside warrants such a high placement. Pineda should be on that list too.

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Jo-Ram had a plus change and a good looking fastball he located extremely well when I saw him in Lakewood a couple of years ago. The slider is a relatively new phenomenon.

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Piliere’s been on about Matt Barnes, a Sox draftee who’s been hitting 97 with command and throwing good breaking stuff. I guess all their pitching prospects can’t suck :)

  56. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Luis,

    Yes except I added DePaula and, of course, removed position players. Otherwise the ranks are as RAB had them back in Feb 2012.

    You can’t really pay too much attention to #5 vs #6.

    Prospects probably should be looked at in tiers. Warren and Phelps are in the same tier.

  57. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    JAP,

    Did you send me your e-mail?

  58. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Barnes sounds good, but let’s wait to see him actually pitch.

    He’s as high as #2 on some Sox prospect lists already.

    He doesn’t appear to be Casey Kelly at all, but Sox prospects are overrated until proven otherwise IMO.

  59. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Warren/Phelps/Marshall rather

  60. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    luis,

    I gave Chad the go ahead to give you mine. Let me see if there’s a msg from him…

  61. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    BD,

    what I was surprised is that I think Marshall should be higher than Warren or Phelps. He has more upside IMO. I could be wrong though.

  62. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    luis,

    I have no msg from Chad. Am I misunderstanding you?

  63. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    JAP, i will ask Chad. I never requested it before.

  64. ron April 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 pm
    based on RAB (I updated):

    Top Yankee Pitching Prospects

    1. Banuelos
    2. Betances
    3. Campos
    4. DePaula (?)
    5. Warren
    6. Phelps
    7. Marshall
    8. DJ Mitchell
    9. Brian Mitchell
    10. Turley
    11. Montgomery
    12. Stoneburner
    13. Camarena
    14. Cabral
    15. Whitley

    ron, where would you put Ramirez on that list? or at the end?

    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    Probably a lot closer to the top than the bottom.Maybe after depaula,but i am no expert.

    Also,a lot of teams have some nice prospects,but we are in good shape.
    Mariners,braves,royals,cincy,rays.

  65. Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    luis

    How close a prospect is to the ML is a significant factor in any ratings system, because less can go wrong, and as you probably know, TINSTAAPP

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Frankie Piliere ? @FrankiePiliere
    Matt Barnes couldn’t have looked better today. Up to 97, plus CB, CH solid. Just walked right thru the lineup #redsox
    28 Mar Frankie Piliere Frankie Piliere ? @FrankiePiliere

    In Port Charlotte today. Boston’s prospects in town. Matt Barnes looking nasty. 93-96 early #redsox
    ///

    Gotta say, haven’t seen a Sox pitching prospect come through AA who was particularly impressive. I’ll have to look out for this guy, though he was just drafted last year. He pitched for UConn. Anyone seen him? ron? You’re a Ct. guy, aren’t you?

  67. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:42 pm
    JAP, i will ask Chad. I never requested it before.
    ///

    luis,

    I emailed him and asked him to forward to you, but he never responded. Not sure if he’s aware he received or not, but it went :D.

  68. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    luis,

    You might find this list interesting. It’s sort of a combination of all the Yanks prospect lists out there:

    http://stealofhome.wordpress.c.....prospects/

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Texas and Toronto have good pitching prospects. The Jays, according to Pilliere, have a couple of lefties who are supposed to be very good, especially this guy Daniel Norris. They’re not upper-level guys yet, though. They’ve got some hard throwing righties that are closer, I believe.

  70. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    JAP,

    I’ll be keeping an eye on Barnes for sure.

    I certainly won’t be surprised of he establishes himself as a (probably the only) legit front end starter prospect for Boston…. but long way to go.

  71. yankeefeminista April 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    Barnes was assigned to Single A (Greenville). They are at Lakewood at the end of April if you want to see him pitch. Dellin pitches Friday; just got my tix. Manny is going Saturday in Syracuse. I’d guess the loser of the long job, Phelps or DJ pitches Sunday, so Warren should get OD SWB start on Thursday.

  72. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    I believe someone here was praying for the Yanks to draft Norris as that draft was in progress. Can’t remember…

    Sounds like a good prospect though.

  73. Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    I like Pilliere’s opinion as much as any prospect person out there.

  74. BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    BA had Norris as their 16th best prospect but he fell to 74th bc of bonus demands.

  75. luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    JAP,

    I just wrote an e-Mail to Chad asking to vive You my e-Mail to You and MTU whisky asedio for it this morning. I hope he reads it.

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    BD (Boston Dave) April 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 pm
    Barnes sounds good, but let’s wait to see him actually pitch.

    He’s as high as #2 on some Sox prospect lists already.

    He doesn’t appear to be Casey Kelly at all, but Sox prospects are overrated until proven otherwise IMO.
    ///

    I saw Ranaudo twice and he walked the ballpark but more than that he had a very hittable, flat fastball and this curve I’ve heard about was not in evidence in two visits. He may have taken a step up but he just doesn’t have a legit fastball, to me. I don’t think highly of Doubront, either, though he’s a lefty so that makes him more appealing. Overall, the Sea Dog pitchers I’ve seen haven’t been that memorable.

    But I tend to take Piliere more seriously than those Sox Prospects sites, since he’s proven trustworthy when it comes to our arms, so I’ll be making a point of seeing Barnes when he gets to AA. The Sox had extra picks the last couple years and are trying to catch up with us. I know they drafted some switch hitting catcher people were high on – can’t remember the guy’s name.

  77. luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:03 am

    BD,

    thanks!….This list makes a lot of sense…Very interesting in deed.

    Rich,

    Sorry I didn’t answer before I was writing an e-mail, and I am rather slow at it!. thanks for the imput, it does makes a lot of sense. Upside vs certainty.

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    luis April 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
    JAP,

    I just wrote an e-Mail to Chad asking to vive You my e-Mail to You and MTU whisky asedio for it this morning. I hope he reads it.
    ///

    HEY CHAD, HEAR THAT? :D.

    I’m sure he’ll link us up, luis.

  79. luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:05 am

    JAP,

    I saw Doubront pitch the other day. he may not be an ace, but he certainly can hold his own.

  80. luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:07 am

    Sorry about the mistakes in the writing, this I-pad has a mind of his own. Especially if it has auto correct in Spanish!

  81. ron April 4th, 2012 at 12:08 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 pm
    Frankie Piliere ? @FrankiePiliere
    Matt Barnes couldn’t have looked better today. Up to 97, plus CB, CH solid. Just walked right thru the lineup #redsox
    28 Mar Frankie Piliere Frankie Piliere ? @FrankiePiliere

    In Port Charlotte today. Boston’s prospects in town. Matt Barnes looking nasty. 93-96 early #redsox
    ///

    Gotta say, haven’t seen a Sox pitching prospect come through AA who was particularly impressive. I’ll have to look out for this guy, though he was just drafted last year. He pitched for UConn. Anyone seen him? ron? You’re a Ct. guy, aren’t you?

    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    Yes.
    He sounds familiar.I’ll have to look him up.

  82. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Rich in NJ April 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm
    I like Pilliere’s opinion as much as any prospect person out there.
    ///

    I guess some folks around here think he should change his name from Frankie Piliere to Yankee Piliere, but I don’t really think there’s much to support that he has some kind of Yankee bias.

    I just think that’s more self loathing some Yankee fans engage in; they’re so afraid that not being cynical about our system guys will make them appear naive, that they are suspicious of any positive feedback, whether it comes from a “scout” or not. Towers compared Betances’ upside with Felix, and everyone wants to muzzle the guy for hyperbolism. Speaking of Betances, Piliere’s reports on him are about the only “scout” feedback that has meshed with my own viewing experience of him, so the guy has some credit with me. Same with Manny and some others. And at least he puts his name to his commentary.

  83. luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Got an early start tomorrow so I bid a good night to all.

  84. yankeefeminista April 4th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    Piliere sees a player multiple times usually and writes his reports off a body of work vs. a one time viewing, the latter which is often the norm with the faux-scouts. Then they make proclamations on a limited sample size or trust a unnamed team’s scout who may or may not have an agenda.

  85. yankeefeminista April 4th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    *an unnamed

  86. yankeefeminista April 4th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    ‘Night, Luis. I am soon to go to sleep myself.

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    yankeefeminista April 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 pm
    Barnes was assigned to Single A (Greenville). They are at Lakewood at the end of April if you want to see him pitch. Dellin pitches Friday; just got my tix. Manny is going Saturday in Syracuse. I’d guess the loser of the long job, Phelps or DJ pitches Sunday, so Warren should get OD SWB start on Thursday.
    ///

    Hi Yankeefem! I may try to get to Lakewood – or not. I might just wait for him to get to AA. If he maintains his current spike and continues to command his offspeed stuff, he’ll get to me soon enough, but thanks. Would that Charleston were in Lakewood this year! :(.

    Dealin’ going on Friday is insane good fortune. I will be there, too. Hope he doesn’t get a cold, windy day that messes with his breaking ball. Pity Manny’s all the way up in ‘cuse. Too far a ride rigiht now. Maybe later in the summer.

  88. ron April 4th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePAX9k231gY

    Matt barnes.Ct huskies.

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:11 am
    Got an early start tomorrow so I bid a good night to all.
    ///

    Sleep well, amigo!

  90. luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:20 am

    YF,Rich and JAP,

    But he sometimes gets enamored with a prospect (Matt Desalvo), at some point I was waiting for the second comming of Cy Young, that’s hyperbole of course. But you get my drift. I take his takes with a grain of salt, as well as i take Callis or Laws take, but for the opposite reason. He is very good, but like in statistics you take out the highest result and the lowest, and somewhere in the middle is the likely scenario ;)

  91. luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:21 am

    Good night for real my friends!

  92. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 12:35 am

    luis April 4th, 2012 at 12:05 am
    JAP,

    I saw Doubront pitch the other day. he may not be an ace, but he certainly can hold his own.
    ///

    Yeah, he’s alright luis. Nothing special. Got nothin’ on our little lefty ;).

  93. yankeefeminista April 4th, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Tommy Phelps interview from Ashmore with some comments on Marshall, etc: http://thunderbaseball.wordpre.....-pitching/

    Also Heyer is learning a … cutter. Isn’t everyone this year?

  94. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 12:59 am

    Thanks for links, ron, Yankeefem. Will look at tomorrow.

    Night, all.

  95. m April 4th, 2012 at 5:45 am

    The polls have closed, and the results are in.

    Only 3 “experts” picked the Yankees to win it all. Overwhelming number of people picked the Angels and Rays (yes, the Rays!) to win the world series.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/preview.....all-season

  96. randy l. April 4th, 2012 at 6:28 am

    how does anyone pick a world series winner?

    it’s a crap shoot , baseball’s attempt at making baseball a junk sport

  97. randy l. April 4th, 2012 at 7:08 am

    matthew berry picked the red sox to win the east
    ah, i see
    fantasy sports analyst

    no wonder i had never heard of him

    i looked at his photo
    he looks kind of funny…
    kind of goofy… kind of explains his red sox pick

    i like it that chad posts his photo, does video, we know who he is… face to the name

    i think the blog should require a face to be added to the username
    think the fun that would be

    though i know what mtu looks like, sj44 also, rebecca, actually trisha when she was posting photos, from the good old days- doreen, but really no one else

    i suppose as long as they are not picking the red sox for first in the american league it’s not totally essential.

    however, if they were picking the the red sox for first, i definitely would like to see a photo so i would no what stupid looks like :)

  98. steve s. April 4th, 2012 at 7:13 am

    Hughes missed 2 1/2 months, not 6 months.

  99. Tar April 4th, 2012 at 7:14 am

    “i definitely would like to see a photo so i would no what stupid looks like ”

    It shouldn’t be that hard, you have a lot of practice looking in the mirror every morning.

    :D

  100. randy l. April 4th, 2012 at 7:27 am

    “It shouldn’t be that hard, you have a lot of practice looking in the mirror every morning.”

    good point

    i definitely wouldn’t be posting a before coffee photo :)

  101. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 7:27 am

    randy l. April 4th, 2012 at 7:08 am
    matthew berry picked the red sox to win the east
    ah, i see
    fantasy sports analyst

    no wonder i had never heard of him

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    There’s a reason he’s in fantasy baseball. he lives in a fantasy world.

  102. blake April 4th, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Buster picked the Rays as the best team in baseball…..I think he’s goin ton compare them to the 27 Yankees every year until they win a title……folks get blinded by that rotation ….which is very good….but the rest of their club is mediocre…..if Boston doesn’t epically choke last year then Tampa doesn’t make the playoffs and everyone has a different opinion on them this spring..

  103. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:39 am

    randy

    It might not be safe for people to know what you look like.

    Someone might be tempted to put out a hit on you. :D:

  104. blake April 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am

    Meanwhile Boston continues to pile up injury risk on their roster with no back up plans……the stars coukd align for the Sox and they could be really good this year as they do have a lot of talent……but whether it happens or not Cherington has come a pretty poor job of roster construction this winter IMO.

  105. upstate kate April 4th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    why I would say that Cherington makes Cashman look like a genius ;)

  106. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    randy

    When you’re in Maine do you listen to WJAB sports radio?

    It’s 96.3. When the RS are doing bad it’s fun to listen too.

    There’s a Yankee fan that calls in that goes by the handle, Axe.

    I been thinking it’s you. :D:

  107. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:47 am

    upstate kate April 4th, 2012 at 7:43 am
    why I would say that Cherington makes Cashman look like a genius

    ————————————————————————–

    If you look closely you will see the puppet strings attached.

    Lucchino has taken more controll since Theo left.

  108. blake April 4th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    I think maybe John Henry is too preoccupied with his soccer and race teams.

  109. randy l. April 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am

    “It might not be safe for people to know what you look like.

    Someone might be tempted to put out a hit on you”

    another good point

    but i’d at least know what they looked like when they came looking for me.

    actually driving on the maine turnpike yesterday i saw an old guy driving a 58 turquoise thunderbird that was really falling apart. smoke coming out the back and kinda shaking all over.
    the old guy had no teeth and had both hands on the wheel like he was on a mission to get somewhere -very focused.

    i don’t no why ,but i immediatley thought of gb7 :)

  110. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    blake April 4th, 2012 at 7:50 am
    I think maybe John Henry is too preoccupied with his soccer and race teams.

    ——————————————————————-

    That’s what some RS fans have been saying.

    They think because of the soccer team he has less resourses for the RS.

  111. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    i don’t no why ,but i immediatley thought of gb7

    ———————————————————–

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  112. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am

    randy

    I’m not sure it’s wise to offend the only friend you have here.

  113. randy l. April 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am

    “When you’re in Maine do you listen to WJAB sports radio?

    It’s 96.3. When the RS are doing bad it’s fun to listen too.”

    maine yankee-

    you trying to get me in trouble?

    after me busting trisha for listening to the lowest IQ trash talking low life sports station in the united states, how can i listen to a maine sports talk radio station?

    well actually people are nicer up here. i’ll give it a shot.
    maybe they’re talking about that flaherty kid who made the orioles you told me about.

  114. blake April 4th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    “They think because of the soccer team he has less resourses for the RS.”

    Basically I think they are up against the luxury tax and Henry is refusing to pay it…..so they’ve had to marginalize their roster because of it……they had to let their good closer walk and trade for a chronicley injured one…..and they didn’t have the flexibility to sign another starter…..

  115. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 8:07 am

    blake April 4th, 2012 at 8:00 am
    “They think because of the soccer team he has less resourses for the RS.”

    Basically I think they are up against the luxury tax and Henry is refusing to pay it…..so they’ve had to marginalize their roster because of it……they had to let their good closer walk and trade for a chronicley injured one…..and they didn’t have the flexibility to sign another starter…..

    ——————————————————-

    I agree that the lux. tax is the deterrent.

    Some RS fans are like some here and think they have no spending limit.

  116. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 8:08 am

    MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:56 am
    i don’t no why ,but i immediatley thought of gb7

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Couldn’t have been me. I would have been packing heat…and I don’t miss.

  117. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 8:10 am

    randy

    well actually people are nicer up here. i’ll give it a shot.
    maybe they’re talking about that flaherty kid who made the orioles you told me about.

    —————————————————–

    You won’t like the lead guy on that station. He’s a big mouth from Boston.

    Well maybe you guys would get along.

    I heard about the Flaherty kid on that station yesterday morning.

  118. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am

    GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 8:08 am
    MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:56 am
    i don’t no why ,but i immediatley thought of gb7

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Couldn’t have been me. I would have been packing heat…and I don’t miss.

    ——————————————————————–

    You’d fit right in up here.

  119. blake April 4th, 2012 at 8:21 am

    The budget annoys me …..but Hal will pay the tax to get guys they need. The extra mile the Yanks went to get Kuroda is an example of what John Henry doesn’t seem to be willing to do. Kuroda would have been a huge sign for Boston……

  120. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 8:21 am

    MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 8:08 am
    MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 7:56 am
    i don’t no why ,but i immediatley thought of gb7

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Couldn’t have been me. I would have been packing heat…and I don’t miss.

    ——————————————————————–

    You’d fit right in up here.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Would there be a bounty on strange and dangerous creatures?

  121. blake April 4th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Who is pitching today?

  122. upstate kate April 4th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  123. pat April 4th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Just listened to Selig on Mike and Mike and he could not be more clueless.

    Th last thing any baseball fan base cares about is teams revenue and rincreasing revenue is all Selig talks about.

    One thing to talk about that at an owners meeting, quite another when addressing fans.

  124. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Good Morning.

    Whatever the Yankees do with Pineda I hope they do not rush him back, and the treatment plan is well thought out.

    The track record in that regard gets a NI (needs improvement).

    Can’t afford to screw up this time.

    The Yankees should not be making statements on when Michael will be back until they see how his arm responds.

    How about a simple, “We’ll see how things go.”

    ;)

  125. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Blake-

    Wouldn’t it be Freddy ?

    Along with AP.

  126. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    GB7

    Would there be a bounty on strange and dangerous creatures?

    ————————————————————————

    If that was the case randy wouldn’t be safe.

  127. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    I saw a special on the Himalayas last night.

    In it I could have sworn I saw Randy.

    He was doing battle with another old goat.

    He kept trying to throw him down the mountainside.

    Typical Randy.

    ;)

  128. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Erin, just for you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPwuWwBbn6w

  129. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    GB was in the special too.

    Out in the distance.

    Wearing a hairy white suit and lookin’ mean.

    Then again it could have been “it” chasin after the lost lover Randy.

    Who knows. I couldn’t be sure. Too far away.

  130. Erin April 4th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Morning LoHudders

    Yankees PR Dept. @YankeesPR Catch @CC_Sabathia live with mike and mike on espn radio now

  131. Erin April 4th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    Erin, just for you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPwuWwBbn6w

    ********************

    That’s hilarious. Excellent way to start the day.

    Thanks GB :D

  132. Erin April 4th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    bob raissman ? @nydnraiss Bobby Valentine signs with ESPN-1050 for weekly segment with M Kay. Red Sox mgr vs Yankees TV voice. Starts today. Should be interesting.

  133. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Erin, there’s another 6 minute clip of 2011 Cano highlights that you would enjoy.

    I’ll send it when you can view it.

  134. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Yankee Baseball

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFdAJRglHs4

  135. blake April 4th, 2012 at 9:13 am

    “Th last thing any baseball fan base cares about is teams revenue and rincreasing revenue is all Selig talks about.”

    Eh….more teams that have money…..the better product they can put on the field…..so fans will probably say they don’t care about team revenues but my guess is that Reds fans like that they can give Joey Votto 225 million dollars and I bet Miami fans like that they can watch games in AC this summer instead if 100 % humidity……fans make not care about team finances…..but I bet they certainly care about the product of teams having money…..

    The bottom line is that more revenue for baseball means a better product for the fans….and Selig gets that……despite all his warts Selig has improved the game whether folks want to admit it or not.

    MTU,

    Thanks! Go Andy!

  136. Erin April 4th, 2012 at 9:16 am

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    New Post w/lineup

    :arrow:

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