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Cervelli: “I don’t understand their reason”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 04, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

As you might expect, Francisco Cervelli was stunned this afternoon.

The Yankees catching depth took a hit when Austin Romine went down with back injury, and to help remedy that situation, George Kontos was traded to the Giants for backup catcher Chris Stewart.

Cervelli has options remaining — Stewart does not — and so Cervelli has been optioned to Triple-A. Craig Tatum, who the Yankees claimed and passed through waivers just a few days ago, will be Cervelli’s backup. Gustavo Molina has to decide whether to accept an assignment to Double-A or be released. Have to think he’d rather be released.

Stewart never had more than 37 big league at-bats in a season until last year when he went to San Francisco following Buster Posey’s injury. I actually covered Stewart for two years in Triple-A, and he really is a terrific defensive catcher. Pitchers seemed to love him in Scranton, he was a good presence in the clubhouse and — at that level — he was a solid hitter. He’s never hit at the big league level, and I doubt the Yankees are expecting much from him offensively. He’s here for his work behind the plate.

As for the Cervelli situation, here’s what was said…

Brian Cashman
“That will give us a lot more depth given the Romine injury is going to take a little longer because he had a setback recently. We feel that Cervelli is a major-league backup, without a doubt. Now we’re back to where we were before the Romine injury, even though it’s not a good situation for Cervy to go back to Triple-A. Organizationally we’re in a good place with Russell Martin, Stewart and Cervelli.”

Joe Girardi
“He’s been here the last three years basically for us. He got called up and kind of burst on the scene in 2009 because of some injuries, and this was a tough one. Our depth for catching with Romine getting hurt was really thin. We know how quick it can happen for a catcher, but it was tough. It’s as tough as I’ve had to do.”

Francisco Cervelli
“I’m disappointed with this, but that’s never going to change anything. All my life I’ve had to do things, and I’ve had to do it double, triple. If they want me to prove that I can catch in the big leagues, I’ll go and prove it, that I have to be here. … I don’t understand their reason. I think maybe you’ve got to ask Cash, or somebody else. Maybe the other guy is better than I am right now. Just play baseball, no matter where it is, and show them that I’m a big league catcher, like they say.”

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146 Responses to “Cervelli: “I don’t understand their reason””

  1. darbodla April 4th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    wow

  2. Warning Track Power April 4th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Cervelli has the right attitude. Go down to AAA and force the Yankees to call him back up.

  3. blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    “With Martin’s pending free agency and Romine’s back, I predict we’ll have a Montero catching for the Yankees next season.”

    The budget

  4. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    So, all it does is cements Martin’s spot for the immediate future. Montero and Napoli are going to cost more than Martin. If I recall, he’s no good anyway.

    As far as Kontos goes, he’s not going to be missed.

  5. mick April 4th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    What is wrong with Cervelli catching every day in AAA?

  6. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    So am I correct?

    Jorge Vazquez was DFA as was Justin Maxwell.

    Bill Hall elected to become a FA.

    Kevin Whelan is still with the team, but not on the 40 man roster.

    Wise and Nix decided to take the assignment to AAA.

    Will Doug Bernier be the AAA SS? Who will likely be starting at 1st, 2nd and 3rd?

  7. Chip April 4th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    I’m freaken shocked honestly.

    Stewart was garbage in his brief stint with the Yankees and hasn’t really done anything since to change that opinion of him.

    I mean Cervelli’s no stud catcher either – but he’s better than this friggin guy.

  8. Madrugador April 4th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    With all the other long pitching options, the Kontos trade provides him with much more opportunity. He likely wasn’t going anywhere with the Yanks anyway. Good for him.

    I can’t figure picking up Stewart though. He is an easy out in the batting order and is he really that much better of a defensive catcher than Cervelli? I really like Cervelli as a back up on this team. He deserves better.

  9. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Kontos has options left, doesn’t make sense to trade him for a catcher they could get off the scrap heap for free.

  10. blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    The depth reasoning makes sense…..but I still think it was kinda unneccessary and sounds like they are choosing to carry a worse backup in the big leagues in the name of having more depth…..how much better than Molina is Stewart?

  11. BIG AL April 4th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    I watched Stewart for 2 years at SWB, and he was a fair to good hitter at that level, but can’t seem to hit ML pitching. He is good on D however. When he does play, it’s like having a NL line-up, and he’s the pitcher, almost an auto out.

    Just think of a situation where either Cervelli or Stewart where to come to the plate with runners in scoring position, and the game on the line, and no ability to pinch hit, who would you prefer hitting?

  12. Game of Inches April 4th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    This whole series of events just strikes me as odd.

    Although, not quite as odd as the Manager of the Boston Red Sox having a weekly call in to the ESPN flagship station in New York.

    What’s wrong Bobby, piss off EEI already? :)

  13. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Cervelli is pretty much in the same spot that Nova was last year. Just needs to go down and get with Wynager and fine tune his defense. NYYs have relief pitcher stacked up like cord wood everywhere. They need to start moving these pitchers, both starters and relievers, or lose them in December. It opens up a chance to convert a starter to a late inning, closer type.

  14. darbodla April 4th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Stewart is an excellent defensive catcher with a gun for an arm. Great in the clubhouse, pitcher’s like him a lot. Cervelli is not better defensively and the Yankees expect nothing much from either offensively.

  15. mick April 4th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Stewart is a better catcher than Cervelli. You think defense when you think BUC.

  16. Don April 4th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    The Yankees are really picky about their back-up catchers. Maybe it is Girardi’s tinkering.

  17. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Cervelli is not better defensively and the Yankees expect nothing much from either offensively.

    Meanwhile Cervelli is actually 5% better than the average catcher and Stewart will provide nothing as expected…

  18. Madrugador April 4th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    With the game on the line, I take Cervelli at the plate over Stewart every time.

  19. blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Cervelli is a good hitter for a back up and has a knack for big hits….I would have much preferred then get a catcher with options off the scrap heap somewhere……and stash them at AAA……but whatever…….

  20. munson15 April 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Once again, Cashman and Gerardi doing everything they can to bring down the Yankees ( sarcasm )

    I like Cisco, but he doesn’t hit either. In that case I’d rather have a solid defender as my backup.

  21. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Did Cervelli work more than Molina with the AAA pitchers in ST? Could that be a reason?
    Nah!- Cervelli has been a career .272 hitter.

  22. DaveD April 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    keithlaw The impact is small, but I’d rather have Kontos than Stewart, especially since the latter is not an upgrade over Cervelli.

  23. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Kontos would be lucky to be in the top 60 of yankee prospects. Nobody, or very few wanted Cervelli until he was sent out. Damned.

  24. Benny Blanco April 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Sports JC16

    Only #yankee fans can complain over a back up C demotion and the trade of a fungible AAA arm..

    6 minutes ago via twitter..

    LOL

  25. mick April 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Just think of a situation where either Cervelli or Stewart where to come to the plate with runners in scoring position, and the game on the line, and no ability to pinch hit, who would you prefer hitting?
    ======================
    thats the reason to not carry a better defensive catcher?
    what about his value behind the plate, saving runs, etc..

  26. Niki April 4th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    Poor Cervelli…I feel so bad for him. I hate that the Yankees did this.

  27. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    So, now he becomes Francisco Munson?

  28. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Kontos would be lucky to be in the top 60 of yankee prospects. Nobody, or very few wanted Cervelli until he was sent out. Damned.

    Kontos still has value to the team, and Cervelli might not have been beloved but the process in which they have demoted him is a poor one. Especially when there was no pressing need to get rid of Kontos.

    Maybe if they had acquired an UPGRADE it would make sense, but they didnt.

  29. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    GB-

    Who will start in the infield for the AAA team?

  30. DaveD April 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    “So, all it does is cements Martin’s spot for the immediate future. Montero and Napoli are going to cost more than Martin. If I recall, he’s no good anyway.

    You do realize that Martin has already been talking about aiming for Molina’s $75 mil contract and turned down the Yankees offers right?

    Catchers ALWAYS get overpaid in FA. Martin is a guy who hits 20 HRs and plays good D – some team will overpay him.

    If they are going to adhere to $189, they cannot afford to overpay for Martin

  31. mick April 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    cervelli should learn to catch at the AAA level , not once a week up here.
    let him hit down there everyday too.

  32. Wave Your Hat April 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    That was a very cold-blooded move by the Yanks, considering that the benefit of Stewart over Cervelli is extremely marginal to non-existent.

  33. Chip April 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    The depth reasoning makes sense…..but I still think it was kinda unneccessary and sounds like they are choosing to carry a worse backup in the big leagues in the name of having more depth…..how much better than Molina is Stewart?
    —————

    I don’t think there’s any way it makes sense.

    1. Cervelli is better than Stewart
    2. Even if Molina walks – there are literally dozens of major league veterans or career minor leaguers who are available to take his spot who are no worse than Molina.
    3. Molina is better than Stewart

    To me it sounds like they are carrying a worse ML back-up catcher in favor of having a better minor league starting catcher.

  34. UnKnown April 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    I hate losing Cervelli for Friday’s start of the season more than Kontos for good.

  35. Game of Inches April 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Cervelli to AAA.

    The women of LoHud hardest hit :wink:

  36. munson15 April 4th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    I like that GB.

  37. mick April 4th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    The women of LoHud hardest hit
    ======================
    Let’s make it like American Idol.
    Let the teenage girls and younger have their vote.

  38. MaineYankee April 4th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Warning Track Power April 4th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    Cervelli has the right attitude. Go down to AAA and force the Yankees to call him back up.

    ———————————————————————-

    Lets hope he doesn’t get bored.

  39. UnKnown April 4th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    ——

    So true, all of a sudden Cervelli’s talent has been looked at to be immediately better by Yankee fans.

  40. Nick in SF April 4th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Come on, SJ, fans of no other team would complain of an equivalent roster move????

  41. Shame Spencer April 4th, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    If the Yankees want us to stop talking about Montero they need to stop being this silly. This is just a weird move. This almost makes it seem like they were actually banking on Romine backing up this season which is shocking to me.

    I guess we really hate Molina.

    Gary Sanchezzzzzz c’moooooon down!!

  42. Eroc April 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    “That was a very cold-blooded move by the Yanks, considering that the benefit of Stewart over Cervelli is extremely marginal to non-existent.”

    Yep. and I’d argue offensively it is a considerable downgrade. Stewart is an automatic out.

    Not to mention, Martin gets nicked up very easily and shouldn’t be playing too many games in a row and such, yet if Stewart is in the game, they are conceding an out. At least Cervelli could hit some.

    Move makes no sense on any level. They didn’t get a kind of player that they couldn’t have found for free on waivers at some point.

  43. Shame Spencer April 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Sj’s comments are fine.. they just ignore He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named completely, and this move is sort of related.

  44. UnKnown April 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Well one positive is Stewart is an upgrade over Tatum, soooo if lets say Martin gets hurt, I would rather have Cervy and Stewart doing the catching duties vs. Cervy and Tatum.

  45. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Trader, seems to still be in flux at 2nd base because of Joseph’s injury. but, here’s the roster. If the Yanks keep Bernier in the system, he’ll probably be Pena andBernier or Russo.

    Partial roster.

    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats.....8;sid=t531

  46. blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    To me it sounds like they are carrying a worse ML back-up catcher in favor of having a better minor league starting catcher.”

    Yea sorta

  47. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    Photo Chris Stewart.

    http://www.sportsoverdose.com/.....is-stewart

  48. munson15 April 4th, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    6 of one, half dozen of the other.

    One is a little better hitter, and one is a little better defensively. I would still rather have a better defender for late innings.

  49. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Seems like more than a few are puzzled by this trade/demotion.

    The Yankees must think Cervelli’s D sucks because Stewart can’t hit his way out a wet paper bag.

    The Yankees can certainly afford to part w Kontos but he has to be worth more than a guy like Stewart.

    Whatever.

  50. yankee21 April 4th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    As a trade this is minimal impact but it is curious decision making.

    I have no problem with Cervelli playing everyday at AAA and improving his game.

    I do have a problem with C. Stewart getting any ML ABs as he is basically a pitcher hitting disguised as a catcher. Essentially his lack of any hitting skills whatsoever will necessarily require Russell Thurman Martin to play every inning of every game and be run into the dirt. At least until NYY tries to pass Stewart through waivers and gets Cervelli back in there.

  51. Chip April 4th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Again – I’m not suggesting Cervelli is anything more than a decent back up – but that is still leaps and bounds better than Chris Stewart. Heck, Girardi or Pena could slap on a cup and be a better option to catch than Stewart.

    Cervelli is better than Tatum and Molina and so the Yankees probably think that he’s the better option to work with their young pitchers at AAA. But if that’s the case I think you can find a major league veteran or career minor leaguer (a Crash Davis type) who could fill that role.

  52. Shame Spencer April 4th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Is Stewart that good defensively to justify this move?

  53. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Blake-

    How did Andy look ?

  54. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    munson15 April 4th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    I like that GB.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Just so nobody confuses you two and it’s easier to change his name than yours, how about Thurman Cervelli?

  55. Chip April 4th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    MTU April 4th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Seems like more than a few are puzzled by this trade/demotion.

    The Yankees must think Cervelli’s D sucks because Stewart can’t hit his way out a wet paper bag.

    The Yankees can certainly afford to part w Kontos but he has to be worth more than a guy like Stewart.

    Whatever.
    ————–

    I think the Yankees look at their depth chart and would rather have Cervelli starting at AAA over Tatum or Molina and figure that Russ Martin is in good enough shape that he’s not going to need a day off between now and whenever Romine is able to return to Scranton (Rochester)

  56. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    So is this the possible starting infield at AAA?
    1B- Pearce
    2b-Pena or Russo
    SS -Bernier
    3B- Laird

  57. blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    One of the keys to this year to me was for Martin to get plenty of rest……he’s a better player when he’s healthy and doesn’t try to play every single game……now they are either going to have to play Martin too much…..or have a complete zero in the lineup once ir twice a week.

  58. Chip April 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    To me it sounds like they are carrying a worse ML back-up catcher in favor of having a better minor league starting catcher.”

    Yea sorta
    ———–

    I mean that’s the only way you can look at this and see it make any kind of sense right?

  59. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    One is a little better hitter, and one is a little better defensively.

    No, one is a lot better hitter. Stewart is a lot better at throwing out runners. Though I’d like to see Cervelli’s SB% without catching AJ.

  60. Chip April 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    So is this the possible starting infield at AAA?
    1B- Pearce
    2b-Pena or Russo
    SS -Bernier
    3B- Laird

    I would assume Nix at 2b and Pena at SS.

  61. blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    MTU,

    I didn’t get to see….sounds like he looked ok though…velo not there yet

  62. Crawdaddy April 4th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    It’s Randy’s fault as Cashman must have agreed with him about Cervelli not throwing out runners.;)

    Being serious, I don’t understand this trade either.

  63. DaSaint007 April 4th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    First, let me admit that I was stunned to first hear that Cervelli was being sent down, but then to hear that it was done because they picked up a BUC for crying out loud.

    Now that I’ve had a chance to digest it, here are my thoughts.
    1. Cervelli is still Yankee property, and gets to ‘play’ with or ‘groom’ Banuelos, Betances, Pineda, Mitchell, Warren and help Pettitte build up his innings.
    2. Stewart is a known commodity to the Yankees, and they obviously like his defense, but maybe this is also a move to block him being picked up by someone else for now.
    3. If Romine’s back is that bad, and it will take longer than expected for him to recover, then they couldn’t entrust those previously mentioned arms to someone who didn’t really know them, and maybe most importantly they really, really want him to take his time to recover, because…
    4. They want a very healthy, affordable, starting-caliber defensive-oriented, but decent hitting catching option as leverage in 2013 when Martin becomes a FA

  64. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    In the meantime, Thurman Cervelli gets a chance to work a lot with Banuelos, Betances, Mitchell and Warren among the other young pitchers. I assume this move with Phelps will move Hall or one of the Trenton starters to AAA.

  65. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    Chip-

    The Yankees are like flap jacks they keep flipping over their position.

    All of a sudden Cervelli could benefit from additional AAA time ?

    He’s been like this for quite some time. Why now ?

    There were always plenty of light hitting good D catchers available.

    Why not give Molina or Gil a try ?

    What’s the big need for a noodle bat like Stewart.

  66. blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Chip,

    Sounds like they are choosing to.carry a worse BUC in favor of having more depth…..which considering that BUCs actually play a lot….is kinda dumb.

  67. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Cervelli wasn’t a great backup catcher option when the alternative was a top prospect in baseball. Compared to most he is a super star.

    ‘Oh no Yankee fans suddenly realized Cervelli’s value!’

    More like ‘Some dumbies misunderstood relative value of player acquisition and loss’, one can hold the same opinion of Cervelli but when viewed against different alternatives the answer will be different.

    Cervelli blocking Montero? Not worth it.
    Trading a decent AAA arm for a NRI catcher to replace Cervelli? Not worth it.

  68. Wave Your Hat April 4th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    “I think the Yankees look at their depth chart and would rather have Cervelli starting at AAA over Tatum or Molina and figure that Russ Martin is in good enough shape that he’s not going to need a day off between now and whenever Romine is able to return to Scranton (Rochester)”

    Given Cashman’s remarks concerning Romine’s injury I wouldn’t look for Romine’s return anytime soon. In fact this trade indicates to me Romine may not come back for a long time.

    And Stewart better be a heck of a lot better than Cervelli defensively, which doesn’t seem too likely as Stewart as Stewart has been released by 5 different teams ovwer a total of 237 plate appearances.

  69. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    MTU-

    Didn’t see the game but Pettitte only threw 4 pitches for his 1 inning of work giving up one hit. Must have been very aggresive hitters up to bat for the Mets.

  70. Chip April 4th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    blake April 4th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Chip,

    Sounds like they are choosing to.carry a worse BUC in favor of having more depth…..which considering that BUCs actually play a lot….is kinda dumb.
    —————

    Right – my hope is that they deal Maxwell for a BUC who is better than Cervelli etc…

  71. Crawdaddy April 4th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    I think Romine is hurt worse than the Yankees are letting on too.

  72. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    So is this the possible starting infield at AAA?
    1B- Pearce
    2b-Pena or Russo
    SS -Bernier
    3B- Laird

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, Pena/Bernier and Nix will fill the nunez roll. I heard the plan was to get Nix a lot of outfield time. He’s got the power, but, the average stinks.

  73. Crawdaddy April 4th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    YT,

    Pettitte threw more than 4 pitches today.

  74. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Thanks Blake/YT.

  75. munson15 April 4th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    “Just so nobody confuses you two and it’s easier to change his name than yours, how about Thurman Cervelli?”

    Well, I am Italian.

  76. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Absolutely agree.

    Seems like Romine might be out for a while.

  77. Shame Spencer April 4th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    “More like ‘Some dumbies misunderstood relative value of player acquisition and loss’, one can hold the same opinion of Cervelli but when viewed against different alternatives the answer will be different. ”

    Shocking, isn’t it?

  78. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Craw-

    How did Pettitte look to you ?

  79. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    I had mentioned earlier that maybe the move was made because Cervelli had spent more time with the AAA pitchers, catching them in ST.

    Nevertheless, Girardi owes him an explanation.

  80. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    munson15 April 4th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    “Just so nobody confuses you two and it’s easier to change his name than yours, how about Thurman Cervelli?”

    Well, I am Italian.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Thurman is an Italian name?

  81. St. Pete Yankee April 4th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Baseball Prospectus says Stewart is far superior throwing out base runners. I was at today’s game and wonder if Cervelli knew about this before he hit his towering home run.

  82. Crawdaddy April 4th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    “How did Pettitte look to you ?”

    He looked fine, but I was watching his inning from my iPhone.

  83. DaSaint007 April 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Some strage Yankee moves though…

    Maxwell DFA…still prefer him to Dickerson
    Kontos traded for a BUC (and we all thought that the Yankees had soooo much catching depth, LOL!).
    Bernier to ??? Scranton/Empire State???

  84. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Thanks Craw.

  85. yankee21 April 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Just curious, didn’t Romine have some back related issues in 2011?

    Did NY even bother checking him out health wise, before trading away their other catcher in the off-season? Or would that risk not even appeared on their radar?

    Or was the Romine back situation something that merely caught a 1.8 billion organization by surprise, like so many things apparently do.

  86. St. Pete Yankee April 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Pettitte to me (at the game behind home plate) looked like a guy making his first one inning appearance of the year — no more, no less. Can’t tell much at all.

  87. bruceb April 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Boy, some people have short memories. It was Francisco Cervelli who turned our season around in 2009 with his first home run against the Braves. He may not be the world’s greatest hitter but he has never let us down since then. I think this is very shoddy treatment by the Yankees, which they wouldn’t have dared do to one of our more senior players.

  88. Nick in SF April 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    “…they just ignore He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named completely, and this move is sort of related.”

    Nooooo, this is about catchers.

  89. David in Cal April 4th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    The Montero trade looks worse and worse.

  90. Joe from Long Island April 4th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    I’m surprised, but can see that this has nothing to do with cervelli, and everything to do with organizational depth/insurance in the wake of romine’s injury.

    They know Stewart, and think highly of what he does bring to the table. When I went to the LoHud game at Scranton, 2008, I found that they were paying him substantially more than anyone else in the team, because of his work behind the dish.

    Cervelli is the victim of the options, as he still has a reaming option year, and apparently Stewart does not. In any case, I don’t think the Yankees will lose many games because of the want of Cisco’s bat.

    It’s a cold business.

  91. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    The box score was wrong. Pettitte had 12 pitches gave up a single, the runner was thrown out trying to steal. Saw a 55 sec video of his relief appearance.

  92. mick April 4th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Cervelli is a a foul tip away from another concussion.

  93. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Just pointing this out 2011 offense:

    Player A. .237 .324 .408
    Player B. .266 .324 .395

  94. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Kontos is Jonathan Albaladejo, nothing more.

  95. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    “I don’t understand their reason.”

    Let me spell it out for you Cisco.

    Basically, the Yankees are telling you your D sucks.

    ;)

  96. mick April 4th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    they wouldn’t have dared do to one of our more senior players.
    ===============
    when did he become a sr player?

  97. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Cervelli is a a foul tip away from another concussion.

    And if it happens in the minors the Yankees gain nothing.

  98. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    GB-

    Perhaps he is but what is Stewart ?

    Johnny Bench.

    :)

  99. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Kontos is Jonathan Albaladejo, nothing more.

    Albaladejo was worth Tyler Clippard. Chris Stewart is a guy you get for free in the offseason on a spring invite.

  100. Nick in SF April 4th, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Player A’s slash line looks better in French, however.

  101. mick April 4th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    And if it happens in the minors the Yankees gain nothing.
    =====================
    are you saying he should stay up as theres less a chance of it happening here

  102. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    DaSaint007 April 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    Some strage Yankee moves though…

    Maxwell DFA…still prefer him to Dickerson
    Kontos traded for a BUC (and we all thought that the Yankees had soooo much catching depth, LOL!).
    Bernier to ??? Scranton/Empire State???

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Simon,

    They still, but, much of it’s in the lower levels….and they aren’t ready for that kind of jump, yet…not defensively or with the bat.

  103. RayVT April 4th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Chad

    Did Kontos have options or was he out of options.

  104. mick April 4th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    the more cervelli whines the less chance he has of coming back

  105. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Did Kontos have options or was he out of options.

    He has options. The Yankees optioned him this spring to AAA. He has 1 or 2 left.

  106. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    GB-

    Perhaps he is but what is Stewart ?

    Johnny Bench.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Close. He’s Johnny Bench’s locker room bench.

  107. mick April 4th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    if he can’t understand they are doing what’s best for the team, and not for him, then he doesn’t belong on the team

  108. Wave Your Hat April 4th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Kontos is no big deal.

  109. stuckey April 4th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Well, there goes any chance of competing for the postseason.

  110. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    MTU-

    I was looking at the same video that Crawdaddy was looking out. They ahowed a 1-0 count, followed by a popup on a 74 mph offspeed pitch inside corner to Nunez.
    2nd hitter must have had a single, because on a 0-1 count the runner was gunned down, by Martin.

    3rd out was a GO to 2nd on a 0-2 count.

  111. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Cervelli being demoted will make Randy happy.

    He thinks Cervelli sucks.

  112. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Only JerkyBoy would spend 2 hours leading the complaining over the 40th pitcher on the Yankee pitching charts.

  113. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Thanks YT.

    I would liked a little more specifics on his stuff.

    Anyway. He put up a goose egg.

    Which is good.

    :)

  114. lounge lizard April 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    At this point, I suspect Cervelli would just as soon punch his ticket to a chance with another organization.

    “We believe Cervelli is a Major League backup”, emphasis on backup, isn’t such a nice remark from his GM.

    I believe Girardi genuinely felt badly about this. As for Cashman, when he watches Office Space, he roots for Lumberg.

  115. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    WYH-

    Stewart is even less of a deal.

    :)

  116. Jerkface April 4th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Only JerkyBoy would spend 2 hours leading the complaining over the 40th pitcher on the Yankee pitching charts.

    And only you would be so smug in your own ignorance while not even knowing how minor league options work.

  117. blake April 4th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Via Dan Barbarisi, Bill Hall is heading home after not making the Opening Day roster. He wants a big league job and will try to latch on with another team. Hall did not have an opt-out clause in his contract, so the Yankees released him at his request. That’s a shame, Hall would have been a nice guy to have stashed away in Triple-A for depth

    http://www.riveraveblues.com

    Yea I agree was hoping he’d stick around

  118. ron April 4th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    I think pettitte threw 13 pitches..
    Francessa said pettitte looked like pettitte.

  119. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    The key points have been touched on I think :

    1 Romine’s injury is not a quick fix

    2 Cervelli is one concussion away from being out of baseball

    3 Kontos has little value to the Yankees

    4 Molina and Gil are not viable options

  120. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    MTU-

    So demanding! :)

    All 3 pitches that they showed were inside corner off speed at 74-86-86.

  121. Wave Your Hat April 4th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    MTU-

    I guess the thought process was Romine’s down for the count and Cervelli’s a pitch to the bean away from the 60 day DL, so we need more catching depth. Stewart’s available but he’s out of options so we can’t expose him to waivers so Cervelli gets the bus ticket.

    That ignores the awkwardness that Stewart can’t hit and wouldn’t get claimed off waivers anyway, while Cervelli is a fan favorite.

    Just a very cold-blooded move, doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies.

  122. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    YT-

    That’s better !

    :)

  123. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    WYH-

    If it doesn’t give you the warm and fuzzies how do think it makes Cervelli feel ?

    :)

  124. UnKnown April 4th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    B. Hall seemed like a cool dude. Wish it would’ve worked out but it obviously doesn’t.

    San Fran keeps stockpiling pitching with the addition of Kontos

  125. blake April 4th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    “I guess the thought process was Romine’s down for the count and Cervelli’s a pitch to the bean away from the 60 day DL, so we need more catching depth.”

    Im sure that’s the thought process…..but is marginally more depth more valuable than the 30ish games that a BUC catcher plays? I don’t think so…..

  126. Wave Your Hat April 4th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    “If it doesn’t give you the warm and fuzzies how do think it makes Cervelli feel ?”

    A lot of folks here don’t seem to think that’s important.

  127. Nick in SF April 4th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    OK, I know we’re in Defcon 5 Crisis Mode, but… here are this season’s over/under Yankee prop bets:

    Jeter BA .285
    HR 9.5
    RBI 62.5

    Arod BA .275
    HR 27.5
    RBI 95.5

    Tex BA .270
    HR 34.5
    RBI 101.5

    Cano BA .307
    HR 27.5
    RBI 109.5

    Swisher HR 24.5

    Russell Munson HR 14.5

    Granderson BA .255
    HR 33.5
    RBI 100.5

    Ibanez HR 15

    Gardner Steals 45.5

    CC Wins 17.5
    ERA 3.25
    K’s 200.5

    Kuroda Wins 12.5

    Nova Wins 12.5

    Mo Saves 35.5

  128. blake April 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Hall maybe shouldn’t have allowed himself to be so excited about being a Yankee….

  129. Betsy April 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    I understand his disappointment, but the Yankees don’t need to explain anything to Cervelli. He’s just not that good and clearly the needed some more immediate catching depth due to Romine’s injury. Plenty of far greater players have been sent to the minors so he needs to just work hard because it’s all he can do.

  130. Yankee Trader April 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Has there been any comment from Girardi, indicating that he sat down with Cervelli, and explained his reasoning behind the demotion?

  131. mick April 4th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    A lot of folks here don’t seem to think that’s important.
    =================
    not important enough to not make the move.

  132. Bret The Hitman April 4th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    BryanHoch

    Brian Cashman said there’s a possibility of more Yankees trades today. “We’re scanning,” he said.

    *********

    I bet somebody out there likes Cervelli and they’re considering offering the Yankees a reliever better than Kontos for Cervelli.

    This is not a depth move because guys like Chris Stewart and Tatum are a dime-a-dozen. There’s little difference between Stewart and G. Molina.

    Cervelli, as much as people rag on him, has logged many innings as a major leaguer and he makes nothing.

    He’s worth a solid – late inning reliever. He’s maybe even worth a good lefty.

  133. Wave Your Hat April 4th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    “Has there been any comment from Girardi, indicating that he sat down with Cervelli, and explained his reasoning behind the demotion?”

    I can hear it now. “Cervy, the organization wants to make a change…”

  134. UnKnown April 4th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    CJ is the 4th starter for the Halo’s. Their better starting pitching will be the difference when deciding the West over the Rangers.

  135. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    So, losing Kontos and Cervelli going to AAA is going to cost Rivera 5.5 saves? get ‘em back, STAT.

  136. mick April 4th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    He’s worth a solid – late inning reliever. He’s maybe even worth a good lefty.
    =======================================
    not when he is a foul tip away…

  137. GreenBeret7 April 4th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    According to this place, it’s likely that Cervelli annoyed Girardi by hitting a home run today, knowing how much Girardi hates catchers that can hit.

  138. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Cashman : “We’re scanning”

    What the eff are you Cashman a photocopier ?

    :)

  139. blake April 4th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Jeter: over, under, over
    arod: over, over, over
    Tex: under, over, over
    Cano: over, over, over
    Swisher: over
    Martin: over
    Granderson: over, over, over
    Ibanez: under
    Gardner: over
    Sabathia: over, under, over
    Kuroda :o ver
    Nova : over (if he stays in the rotation)
    Rivera: over

  140. MTU April 4th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    new thread —>

  141. BD (Boston Dave) April 4th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    “Maybe if they had acquired an UPGRADE it would make sense, but they didnt.”

    ————

    Yanks seem to value defense at the position and he is an upgrade there.

    I don’t see what all the fuss is about… EXCEPT that you could argue that giving up Kontos wasn’t necessary.

    If you really liked Kontos, ok. Otherwise, arguing about this at all seems silly. If Stewart is horrible, Cervelli is still there in AAA (supposedly proving he belongs) and they can call him up.

    This is only about whether you think losing Kontos will negatively impact the Yanks and nothing else.

    ANY other team in the league makes this trade and it doesn’t even get a mention. Needless to say, Keith Law doesn’t like it.

  142. St. Pete Yankee April 4th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Cervelli gets to play almost every day (with the Scranton Rovers), which should help him.

  143. Bo knows April 4th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    I think I will go on record as “This will be very good for Cervelli as it will bring him out of the BU mode”. The last few games last year before the concussion Cervelli was hitting the ball with a lot more authority including HRs.

    Cervelli was never given a chance and seemed to accept his defined role. He effectively went from A ball to the Majors and then wound up with the broken wrist. I think there is more there. I would not be at all surprised if this gets him out of his comfort zone and he develops into more than a BU catcher.

    If he dedicates himself, I’d bet on Cervelli at this time.

  144. J. Alfred Prufrock April 4th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    I think this is very shoddy treatment by the Yankees, which they wouldn’t have dared do to one of our more senior players.
    ///

    Guess you missed them trying to bring Posada to his knees all last season.

  145. Duh Innings April 5th, 2012 at 2:28 am

    Stewart as the 2012 Yanks’ backup catcher = Stewart starting every eighth to tenth game.

    It seems like the Yanks’ thinking is his defense including his good throwing out basestealers rate is worth giving him 100 AB and he’s due to hit over .200 (his career BA.)

    Cervelli should just shut up and do what he has to do to take Stewart’s job. I’d imagine if Stewart gets injured or sucks, Cervelli will.

  146. Duh Innings April 5th, 2012 at 2:35 am

    Oh yeah, life sucks when you’re pulling down $513,700 in one year to be a AAA catcher like Cervelli is.

    The majority of players on the AAA team would kill for that salary, so Cervelli should shut up even more.


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