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No surprises in Opening Day lineup

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 06, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Raul Ibanez DH
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner LF

LHP CC Sabathia

 
 

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151 Responses to “No surprises in Opening Day lineup”

  1. vinny-b April 6th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    “Patrick April 6th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    Scioscia is the Best Mgr in the AL. Hands down.


    Look at how wrong you are
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    well someone needs to inform the Yankees becuz overall his team have nearly completely owned the Yankees from time he’s been manager. I don’t like playing the Angels, and Ssioscia is the main factor. He’s aggressive. Too agressive

  2. Chase April 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Play ball!

  3. JobaTipsHisCap April 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Jeter lead off.
    ok

  4. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    “his team have nearly completely owned the Yankees from time he’s been manager.”

    Scioscia owned Torre.

  5. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Not that it really matters – but any status on Justin Maxwell?

    With the Torres injury I would think the Mets would be absolutely interested.

  6. Patrick April 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    With the Torres injury I would think the Mets would be absolutely interested.

    Good point. I’m sure Maxwell will stick with somebody.

  7. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    JackCurryYES Elias: Jeter (37) & A-Rod (36) are 2d set of teammates in last 56 yrs to start opener at SS/3B, both at 36 or older. Can you name other 2?

    Nope, I can’t.

  8. darbodla April 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
    “Fair to middlin” was my comment. His ST and what I saw yesterday was the proof in the pudding. His reputation is carrying him Now. The hitters are gonna realize he now has 2 pitches he can rely on, FAIR MPH, and the control is No longer pin-point. Personally, Bedard was head-and-shoulders better than Halladay yesterday.

    Judging Roy Halladay based on spring training????????

    Yesterday Halladay gave up ZERO runs and 2 hits in 8 innings. Are you insane????

  9. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    The Red Sox and The Angels are the only teams AL teams over .500 against the Yankees since 2008.

  10. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am

    “I sure don’t see Hellickson regressing.”

    he had a FIP of 4.44 last year and an xFIP of 4.72….you think he’s going to pitch to a sub 3 ERA again….I don’t. I don’t think he’s a 4 ERA pitcher really but I don’t think hes sub 4 either….I’d except something in the high 3′s this year to be honest and I think that’s what he’ll probably be in the AL east ….a 3.5- 4 ERA guy.

  11. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Patrick April 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    With the Torres injury I would think the Mets would be absolutely interested.

    Good point. I’m sure Maxwell will stick with somebody.
    —————

    Unless teams have just pegged him as a AAAA player. Which he very well might be.

  12. vinny-b April 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    We’ve played them much better since Torre’s left, though. Sioscia may just be that much better than Torre as opposed to being better than every other manager in the game.
    ——————————————-

    a fair point.

  13. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Batting Gardner 9th issa waste. Yanks should be getting him as many AB’s per game as possible. Gardner is no longer a babe-in-the-woods. Either he has it or he doesn’t. If the Yanks believe he has it, he should be batting leadoff. If the Yanks don’t believe he’s got what it takes, they should deal him.

  14. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Judging Roy Halladay based on spring training????????

    Yesterday Halladay gave up ZERO runs and 2 hits in 8 innings. Are you insane????

    ———————

    I think Donny’s a troll lol.

  15. Bret The Hitman April 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Gardner is a platoon player and 9 hitter.

  16. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
    “I sure don’t see Hellickson regressing.”

    he had a FIP of 4.44 last year and an xFIP of 4.72….you think he’s going to pitch to a sub 3 ERA again….I don’t. I don’t think he’s a 4 ERA pitcher really but I don’t think hes sub 4 either….I’d except something in the high 3?s this year to be honest and I think that’s what he’ll probably be in the AL east ….a 3.5- 4 ERA guy.
    ———————-

    He also threw 189 IP last season. His second highest IP was in 2008 – 152 IP. We’ll see how that affects him.

  17. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    I don’t think he’s sub 3 I should say.

  18. stuckey April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Speaking of managers…

    Since none of his critics appeared to have enough courage in their convictions to engage in some genuine baseball conversation last evening:

    - Joe Girardi has a WS ring.

    - He’s qualified for the postseason 3 of his 4 years (the last 3), which includes the best record on baseball one season (103 wins) and the best record in the AL another.

    - He has an 18-11 record IN the postseason, which is a .621 winning % (101 wins translated over a regular season).

    - He’s won 4 of 6 postseason series, or a .667 series winning %.

    Some fans “argue” he’s not doing good enough a job.

    Q: What should have he accomplished the last 4 seasons to qualify as doing a good enough job?

  19. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    We’ve played them much better since Torre’s left, though. Sioscia may just be that much better than Torre as opposed to being better than every other manager in the game.
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    The Angels were also (until this year) a better team when Torre was managing the Yankees than they have been in the last couple of years.

  20. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Actually, I recant… I think he likes the Yankees so I dunno if that qualifies you as a troll.. but he likes to stir the pot.

  21. Patrick April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Maybe the Angels had a better team back then! You guys realize that the manager doesn’t really have a huge effect on the game right? There is a reason Texas has won that division for the last two years, the Angels aren’t as good as they were during the latter Torre years. They played us tougher back then because they were a better team back then. Not because of some mystical Mike Sciosia voodoo that Girardi has the cure to.

  22. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Donny’s eyes also told him that Garza got worse last year…..

  23. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    As I said gentlemen, stay tuned.

  24. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    I thought Halladay might be in line for an iffy season after that spring training, but does it look like I was wrong.. Nothing will change the fact that he’s a phenomenal pitcher. He may age, but he’s still incredible at pitching.

  25. stuckey April 6th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Brett,

    May assume you’re not a fan of WAR (of which Brett Gardber has the third highest amongst LF’s last year)?

  26. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    We’ve played them much better since Torre’s left, though. Sioscia may just be that much better than Torre as opposed to being better than every other manager in the game.
    ————————–

    The Angels were also (until this year) a better team when Torre was managing the Yankees than they have been in the last couple of years.

    ——————–

    Also true. Some of those Angels teams were scary. I was always impressed they only got that one title out of it…

  27. Wave Your Hat April 6th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    blake-

    I think you are undervaluing Hellickson. He had consistent minor league ERA under 3.00. Sure he might have an ERA in the low 3s this year due to normal variation but he could also pitch to a 2.50 ERA. He’s just very good, with good defense behind him.

  28. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    - TOP CHUCKERS YESTERDAY -

    (1) VERLANDER

    (2) BEDARD

    (3) PACEL OF “FAIR TO MIDLIN’S”

  29. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Wave,

    I think he’s good…I don’t think he’s a sub 3 ERA guy which is why I said he’d regress. Would I like to have him? Sure….but I don’t think he’ll be as good as he was last year…..same with Shields.

  30. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    - TOP CHUCKERS YESTERDAY -

    (1) VERLANDER

    (2) BEDARD

    (3) PACEL OF “FAIR TO MIDLIN’S”
    ———————–

    Justin Masterson was worlds better than Bedard yesterday.

  31. MaineYankee April 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Actually, I recant… I think he likes the Yankees so I dunno if that qualifies you as a troll.. but he likes to stir the pot.

    ——————————————————————————————–

    That’s randys job.

  32. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am

    “TOP CHUCKERS YESTERDAY -”

    guess you missed Lester, Masterson, and Halladay

  33. Bronx Jeers April 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Opening Day in a dome is lame.

    The sunshine state my ass.

  34. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    I missed seeing Masterson, so I will take your word for it. I did see Bedard, and I thought his control and the quickness in which the ball got on top of the hitters was Outstanding. It was like that 1st strike that Roy Hobbs threw The Whammer.

  35. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    I don’t think Hellickson is a sub-3 guy. His peripherals certainly don’t suggest it.

  36. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    “He had consistent minor league ERA under 3.00″

    so do a lot of guys

  37. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    He got lucky for a season, just like Buchholz. Someone here still owes me a steak dinner over buchholz.

  38. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Shame -

    After Tony Reagens took over for Bill Stoneman as GM the Angels really made some bad decisions that hurt them.

    The Gary Matthews signing
    The Mark Teixeira trade (or rather the inability to keep him)
    Jeff Mathis over Mike Napoli (though that was also on the manager)
    Scott Kazmir trade
    Vernon Wells trade
    letting Vladdy go
    The bullpen decisions

  39. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    ” Q: What should have he accomplished the last 4 seasons to qualify as doing a good enough job?”

    Save Montero.

  40. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Bronx Jeers April 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Opening Day in a dome is lame.

    The sunshine state my ass.
    ———————-

    I didn’t know the site wouldn’t block ‘ass’ from being posted on the blog…noted.

  41. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    so do a lot of guys

    They must be wasting David Phelps in the bullpen then… considering he did the same thing as Hellickson :)

  42. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Lester did Very little for me. He got several DP’s that bailed him out. You guys rely on numbers. I Trust my eyes.

  43. Patrick April 6th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Save Montero.

    Jesus saves

  44. blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    “They must be wasting David Phelps in the bullpen then… considering he did the same thing as Hellickson ”

    I was getting ready to use Phelps as an example ;)

  45. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Hellickson gives up lots of HRs, walked guys and didnt strike many out last year. Super flukey year.

    Rays defense is really good, saved his butt.

  46. blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    Lester pitched to a very good lineup yesterday and for the most part kept them off balance and navigated it very well…..that was by far the most positive thing a Sox fan could take away from yesterday’s game….problem is that he can’t pitch them all.

  47. Bronx Jeers April 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    I didn’t know the site wouldn’t block ‘ass’ from being posted on the blog…noted.

    —————————-

    Yes, many variations are restricted but just plain ole ass is good to go. :smile:

  48. darbodla April 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Lester did Very little for me. He got several DP’s that bailed him out. You guys rely on numbers. I Trust my eyes.

    Please post when you will be driving and where. I want to lock myself in my house.

  49. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    Hellickson gives up lots of HRs, walked guys and didnt strike many out last year. Super flukey year.

    Rays defense is really good, saved his butt.
    ————

    Yeah, his BABIP was just .223 as well.

  50. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    You can thank me for the ability to use ass here. I petitioned LoHud to unblock it so I could more properly describe randy’s half-assed observations.

  51. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Personally, I would avoid wasting my best Chucker against a guy like Verlander. Same goes for when Pedro was on his game. The odds are stacked against you in that game, and depending on how deep your rotation is, the ramifications can multiply into a losing streak of several games.

  52. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Chip April 6th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Shame -

    After Tony Reagens took over for Bill Stoneman as GM the Angels really made some bad decisions that hurt them.

    —————————-

    Too true. Just the last three you posted alone were major head scratchers. Kazmir, Wells and Vlad…. it just makes no sense. You knew when they got Kaz it would probably be a bust but at least its a risk that could pay off. Wells…no.

  53. stuckey April 6th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Pitchers can have great days and off days in their first start of the year as easily as they can their 17th start of the year.

    Extrapolating how a pitcher will perform this year based on their first start is perhaps the most fun, enticing, natural waste of time there is in sports.

  54. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    The Angels were also set-back on the field and emotionally when their SP died in the drunk driver accident.

  55. MaineYankee April 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Now nick is also trying to steal the pot stirrer title from randy.

  56. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    You can thank me for the ability to use ass here. I petitioned LoHud to unblock it so I could more properly describe randy’s half-assed observations.
    ——————–

    Glad to know we have a pillar of strength, a silent freedom fighter if you will, to stand up for us in our struggles against censorship of insults. Thank you Nick in SF. Thank you.

  57. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    The Angels were also set-back on the field and emotionally when their SP died in the drunk driver accident.

    That was the year they went to the ALCS, who died the last 2 years?

  58. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    That was the year they went to the ALCS, who died the last 2 years?

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    Their bats?

  59. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Their bats?

    High 5!

  60. Patrick April 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    That was the year they went to the ALCS, who died the last 2 years?

    Kendrys Morales

  61. darbodla April 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    donnybrooke do you believe this stuff you write?

  62. blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    “That was the year they went to the ALCS, who died the last 2 years?”

    Jeff Mathis

  63. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    I try to keep my glass half full when I assess our range of available insults on the assumption that the truth will eventually prevail.

  64. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Half full of what????

  65. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Happy Opening Day to all.

  66. JobaTipsHisCap April 6th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    please replace Michael Kay

  67. Wave Your Hat April 6th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    “Hellickson gives up lots of HRs, walked guys and didnt strike many out last year. Super flukey year.”

    That’s just a longer way of saying his FIP was not low. But his year wasn’t flukey for him.

  68. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    I try to keep my glass half full when I assess our range of available insults on the assumption that the truth will eventually prevail.
    —————————————

    And you’re an inspiration to us all ;)

  69. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    If I was to replace Kay, I would get The Hawk. Very entertaining, and informative as an X-Jock. He also will Rag an Ump when warranted.

  70. Patrick April 6th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    If I was to replace Kay, I would get The Hawk. Very entertaining, and informative as an X-Jock. He also will Rag an Ump when warranted.

    Ok now I KNOW you are trolling

  71. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    I’m chatting with a friend, and it made me think – when was the last time the Yankees had a pitching staff this good? I know a pitch hasn’t been throw yet, but on paper, it looks quite good.

    I was pretty young during the 90s run. Does this pitching staff stack up to those teams? It sure looks better than the 2000s, 2009 included.

  72. Mike_Boston April 6th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    As bad as Kay is, Hawk is a million times worse.

  73. darbodla April 6th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Make that 2 million . . .

  74. Stand with Chad April 6th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Anyone know where I can stream the radio broadcast online?

  75. MaineYankee April 6th, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    The White Sox blog is this way. :arrow:

  76. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    I suspect it’s going to get a lot weirder here now that the season is nigh upon us.

    But you know what they say: when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

  77. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Stand with Chad April 6th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Anyone know where I can stream the radio broadcast online?

    ———————-

    When you’re standing with Chad, where are his girls?

  78. hardwired7 April 6th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Go for broke: keep Kay and add Hawk.

    We could get a simultaneous “See ya!” with a “He gone!” That would just be an epic moment.

  79. pat April 6th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    BloggingBombers The Yankees are wearing t-shirts reading “Yankees 1 degree” … As in always trying to get one degree better, give one degree more effort.

    BloggingBombers The back of the shirt reads “Mind Heart Guts” #Yankees 32 minutes ago

    BloggingBombers As one player explained the one degree: “At 211 degrees, water is hot. At 212, water is boiling. One degree can make all the difference.”

    Inspirational and educational! :wink:

  80. randy l. April 6th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    “You can thank me for the ability to use ass here. I petitioned LoHud to unblock it so I could more properly describe randy’s half-assed observations.”

    nick in sf-

    it’s not my fault that you’re still pissed off because you always got picked last for games when you were a kid .

  81. blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    If the Yankees hired Hawk I would have to choose between changing favorite teams and just listening to the radio.

  82. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    BloggingBombers As one player explained the one degree: “At 211 degrees, water is hot. At 212, water is boiling. One degree can make all the difference.”

    Inspirational and educational! :wink:

    ————————

    Ooooo I like that one, thanks pat!

  83. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Hi randy. :grin:

  84. blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    but Kay is horrible….they need to just let Kenny and Cone do all the games.

  85. GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    RadioKev,

    This rotation has a chance to pass anything the 90s rotation did? They just need to do it Potentially, it could pass the ’78 rotation, too. The best Yankee rotations were from ’61-63. Could this one pass them? definately.

  86. Doc Iac April 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    If the Yankees hired Hawk I would have to choose between changing favorite teams and just listening to the radio.

    —-

    sterling and suzan? ugh, ur better off muting the game and doin ur own comentating

  87. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    So who gets the first Yankee hit of the 2012 season?

    I’m guessing its the Grandy Man…because he can.

  88. randy l. April 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    that’s a nice looking yankee line up.

  89. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    but Kay is horrible….they need to just let Kenny and Cone do all the games.
    —————————

    I feel like Kay is better when he has someone making fun of him in the booth like O’Neill or Leiter.

  90. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Doc Iac April 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    blake April 6th, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    If the Yankees hired Hawk I would have to choose between changing favorite teams and just listening to the radio.

    —-

    sterling and suzan? ugh, ur better off muting the game and doin ur own comentating
    ————————-

    I know people like John and Suzyn for…. reasons I’ll never understand completely, but I can’t deal with listening to the game on the radio for 15 minutes without knowing the inning or the score.

    Its broadcasting 101, John.

  91. 4time April 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    BryanHoch Girardi: “Safe to say” Pineda won’t pitch in majors in April

  92. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    hat’s just a longer way of saying his FIP was not low. But his year wasn’t flukey for him.

    It was when you considered how he pitched. Didn’t get strike outs like he has, walked more than he ever has, gave up more HRs. ya ya fip , blah blah blah, above aberage left on base%, an incredibly above average BABIP.

    Dude got lucky. I’ll be more than willing to wager the steak dinner I won on my buchholz bet that Hellickson is above 3.5 ERA this year.

  93. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    I like John and Susie….I think im the only one though….

    Shame,

    I feel like Kay is still bad….its just more enjoyable to listen to someone make fun of him…..

  94. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    4time April 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    BryanHoch Girardi: “Safe to say” Pineda won’t pitch in majors in April
    ——————————–

    Looks like Pineda just got cheaper :D

  95. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    RadioKev,

    This rotation has a chance to pass anything the 90s rotation did? They just need to do it Potentially, it could pass the ’78 rotation, too. The best Yankee rotations were from ’61-63. Could this one pass them? definately.
    —————–

    They just need to do it. Couldn’t agree more.

    And I think Kay is great at what he does. Does he sound like a douche? Sure. I still think he makes for a great announcer.

  96. MaineYankee April 6th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    So who gets the first Yankee hit of the 2012 season?

    I’m guessing its the Grandy Man…because he can.

    —————————————————————-

    Ibanez :D :

  97. Vineyard Yankee April 6th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    “Fair to middlin” was my comment. His ST and what I saw yesterday was the proof in the pudding. His reputation is carrying him now.

    ==============

    Oh, I see, 8 IP, 2 Hits, 0 Runs, 0 BB’s, 5 K’s and a W are just fair. What drugs are you on ? Care to share ?

  98. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Id put the over/under on Hellicksons era at 3.75

  99. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    And he has plenty of likable foils in the booth. He plays well with them.

  100. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    blake – I thought he was awful until I got MLBtv on my computer one year. I watched nearly every game that season and quite frankly, most announcers in the game are below average and that’s being generous.

    After that, I just can’t hate Kay the way I used to. He’s a homer for sure, but some of these other regional guys are just awful.

  101. GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    there is another trend going on with baseball. at some point the lack of participation by kids in the game is going to have an effect on revenues. i simply can’t believe that kids who spend 1/20 of the time that gb7, me, tomingeorgia, blake, patm, blake, rich in nj, etc did playing as kids, will follow the game the way we do.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Randy,

    The best way to get the young kids to follow the big teams aren’t in the areas that have MLB teams, it starts with promoting the minor leagues and especially the best players. The kids in those areas will likely follow those young players throughout. It’s got to start there, and get the teams involved in those areas with MiLB teams. It can’t be just a year or two. It has to be every year. It’s made a little tougher because of affiliation shifts, but, it can be done. The internet would be a good place to start.

  102. Doc Iac April 6th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    i dont know who gets first hit, but arod gets first HR…in his first ab!!

  103. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Shame,

    You know you can choose the broadcast you want on MLB.TV right? Just pick the away broadcast…..unless they are playing the Dodgers

  104. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    “there is another trend going on with baseball. at some point the lack of participation by kids in the game is going to have an effect on revenues. i simply can’t believe that kids who spend 1/20 of the time that gb7, me, tomingeorgia, blake, patm, blake, rich in nj, etc did playing as kids, will follow the game the way we do.”

    I think sabernetrics is helping bridge the gap…..younger fans get into that stuff with fantasy and everything…..

  105. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    After that, I just can’t hate Kay the way I used to. He’s a homer for sure, but some of these other regional guys are just awful.

    This is so true. Kay can say dumb stuff sometimes, but he generally calls the game good and doesn’t devolve into the same pandering schtick that a lot of guys do. Plus he always engages his color people by asking questions that generate discussion. He could probably do with talking a little less, but thats probably his background in radio talking.

    Not everyone can have Vin Scully, most teams are pretty bad. You want to see a reversal of fortune? Listen to the Rangers announcing team from 2007-2009 and then watch last years. The guy they replaced their old PBP dude with is awwwwwwwwwwwful.

    Red Sox & Yankees have 2 of the best TV announcer groups in the game. Which speaks more to the quality of announcing in general.

  106. GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    There are no “great voices of baseball” any more. If you like like him, I suppose Sculley would be the last of them along with Houston’s legendary Milo Hamilton, but, I don’t care for for Sculley at all.

  107. darbodla April 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Beret agree totally. It’s a sick rotation and deeeep!

    Sabathia/Kuroda/Pineda/Hughes/Nova/Garcia/Pettitte and beaucoup depth in the minors.

  108. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Doc lac,

    I sure hope so…we need a strong, healthy year from ARod. Let him play 100 in the field and the rest at DH…Nunez can use the experience and we have Chavez too, so really no need whatsoever to push it with ARod.

    MVP: Robinson Cano

  109. Joe from Long Island April 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    most announcers in the game are below average

    well, then maybe average is worse than you think. what it sounds like you’re describing is just poor performance, which i happen to agree with.

    having lived in various parts of the country for a while, in my youth, i always found a ballgame to watch or listen to, and was always, always, appalled at how much these guys (usually) are hard to listen to. there would be an exception, like harry caray, or jack brickhouse, but for the most part these guys were awful.

    michael kay, for all his warts as an announcer, is actually better than most.

    of course, there are some really good ones. sny usually puts together a fairly good booth, except when keith hernandez goes on about how current firstbasemen are no where as good as he was – that gets a bit ridiculous after a while – and while over 80 vin scully is still wonderful. but a lot of these guys just seem to be on autopilot, doing no research, and not caring about it.

    ken harrelson was a pretty good ballplayer, but, he would drive me crazy if i had to listen to him for more than five minutes.

  110. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    You know you can choose the broadcast you want on MLB.TV right? Just pick the away broadcast…..unless they are playing the Dodgers

    That option didn’t always exist :twisted:

    Having to listen to any of the: Royals, Orioles, Blue Jays, White Sox, Tigers, Rays was an exercise in frustration. God bless mlb.tv for home/away feeds & now the ability to overlay radio audio.

    I wish they’d just do ‘crowd noise’ as well.

  111. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Current booths which are good quality:

    SEA, LAA, LAD, NYY, BOS, MIN, SFG

    Rangers radio feed is good too.

  112. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I do agree that others teams broadcasts are mostly awful……

  113. MaineYankee April 6th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Jerkface

    I have to watch all Yankee vs RS on NESN.

    It’s hard to listen to them for a whole game.

  114. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    - FAVORITE BASEBALL PLAY-BY-PLAY BROADCATERS -

    (1) VIN SCULLY

    (2) KEN “THE HAWK” HARRELSON

    (3) DICK ENBERG

    – HONORABLE MENTION (COLOR COMMENTATOR )

    (1) JIM PALMER – EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE AND CONSISE.

  115. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Hawk Harrelson is only tolerable when the opposing team is winning, because then he doesn’t say sht

  116. MaineYankee April 6th, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    GB7

    It helped this Portland team when they became connected to the RS.

    They do a good job doing things to make it family and kid friendly.

  117. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    JackCurryYES My picks ALEast: Yanks. Central: Tigers. West: Tex. Wild cards: Angels, Rays. NLEast: Phil. Central: Cards: West: DBax. WCs: Marlins, Giants 38 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  118. randy l. April 6th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    “I think sabernetrics is helping bridge the gap…..younger fans get into that stuff with fantasy and everything…..”

    blake-

    i don’t think there are enough sabermetrically inclined to fund the game at the level it’s at now.

    i suspect baseball is at a high water mark and will start to lose popularity from now on.

    however, from a purist view that could be a good thing.

  119. GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Joe from Long Island April 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    most announcers in the game are below average

    well, then maybe average is worse than you think. what it sounds like you’re describing is just poor performance, which i happen to agree with.

    having lived in various parts of the country for a while, in my youth, i always found a ballgame to watch or listen to, and was always, always, appalled at how much these guys (usually) are hard to listen to. there would be an exception, like harry caray, or jack brickhouse, but for the most part these guys were awful.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Back in the day, some of the best broadcast teams were in the midwest. Joe, you mentioned Jack Brickhouse out of Chicago. Chicago had to of the better teams with Brickhouse and Vince Lloyd covering the cubs on tv and sometimes the White sox, but Lloyd Pettit and Lou Bourdreau on radio while the Sox had Bob Elson and Milo Hamilton, Detroit with Ernie harwell and George Kell, Cleveland had Herb score, Minnesota with Herb Carneille, Cinncy had Marty brenneman and the old Left Hander, Joe Nuxall, St Louis had jack Buck and Harry Carey. Those were voices with personality. They were homers, but, fair. Not a Ken Harrellson in the bunch.

  120. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    David Cone has no interest in Twitter – he does however have an interest in visiting every bullpen in baseball.

  121. 11 CF April 6th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    As one player explained the one degree: “At 211 degrees, water is hot. At 212, water is boiling. One degree can make all the difference.”

    ====
    Interested to know which player. My guess is Swisher or Martin.

  122. UnKnown April 6th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    LETS GO YANKEES clap clap clap LETS GO YANKEES

  123. Joe from Long Island April 6th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    gb – hi there.

    you mention some great names. i don’t mind someone who roots for the home team, but, you have to be fair.

    taking the rest of the day, will go home, and watch YES and the Yankees start off the new year.

    later.

  124. 4time April 6th, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Mets have the best announcers

    Darling is awesome – very original, knows the game well. Not a schtick guy who tries to be funny, yet not boring either.

    Hernandez is like Paul O’Neil. Knows the game well, funny, a little off-the-wall. Him and Darling are a good balance.

    Cohen is decent.

  125. GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Joe, one other voice out of Cinncy was the great Waite Hoyt

  126. Yank1 April 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    I think the best booth would be Hawk Harrelson, Rex Hudler, and Ron Dibble.

  127. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    “i don’t think there are enough sabermetrically inclined to fund the game at the level it’s at now”

    I agree….but I think it’ll help and folks are always going to want to go to the ballpark (especailly these new ones) and eat a hot dog and have a cold beer…….I think baseball is awesome right now and business is booming…..I don’t know if it’ll ever be like it was in the 50s and 60s where kids played on sand lots all day though.

  128. theREALkevin April 6th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARRRRRRRRRD

    YEEEEESSSSS!!!

  129. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    “Hawk Harrelson is only tolerable when the opposing team is winning, because then he doesn’t say sht”

    He did Yankee games in the ’80s, and was offensively bad.

  130. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Yes, add the NYM TV booth to the list of good ones.

  131. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    YankeesWFAN Evan Longoria told me the ball he hit for GW HR in Gm 162 is the ball that will be used for today’s ceremonial first pitch. 8 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    funny how a walk off homer in a game the Yankees let them win so that they could sneak into the playoffs has totally changed perception of the 2012 Rays.

  132. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    I wonder if they would do that if the Yankees weren’t the opponent.

  133. Chip April 6th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    now this might help get fans to come to Baltimore games: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......den-yards/

  134. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    You guys comparing TV announcers like The Hawk, to the old days of listening to games on the radio, is apples and oranges. Doing a game on radio vs TV is night and day.The Hawk is vintage sensationalist Baseball on TV. He takes 1 of 162, and makes it interesting\entertaining by putting his brand on it. Whole new ballgame\broadcast media, with the 162 wall-to-wall TV coverage of games now-a-days.

  135. stuckey April 6th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    They should use Dan Johnson’s HR… that was the real season saver.

  136. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    No, Harrelson is obnoxious, narrow-minded, and arrogant.

  137. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Hawks brand is being the biggest homer imaginable…openly cheering for his team and against the other….and just plain being as annoying as possible. The White Sox might as well pick a fan out of the stands to do the game.

  138. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    You guys comparing TV announcers like The Hawk

    How about those of us comparing modern day TV announcers to Hawk, in which HAwk would rank last, because he is both bad at calling a game and a huge, horrible homer that pouts and sulks when his team loses.

    You just like him because he talks like a hillbilly.

  139. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    It seems like that would be a slightly better burn against the Redsocks since it knocked them out of the postseason and didn’t end up having any effect on the Yanks’ postseason. But more power to them if it fires up their fan(s).

  140. randy l. April 6th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    “.I think baseball is awesome right now and business is booming…..I don’t know if it’ll ever be like it was in the 50s and 60s where kids played on sand lots all day though.”

    i don’t think it’ll continue booming because of the kids not getting into it the way they used to,but today is today and it’s opening day , so who cares :)

    play ball!!!

  141. willwill April 6th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Id start nunez everyday

  142. blake April 6th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    The Rays should use the ball Papelbon threw to blow the save in Baltimore.

  143. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Maybe they just have to recycle used baseballs any way they can?

  144. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    “I don’t know if it’ll ever be like it was in the 50s and 60s where kids played on sand lots all day though.”

    It won’t be but it doesn’t have to be… people associate the lack of outdoor play with a lack of interest – its just not true.

    I love hockey but god forbid any of you watch me on a pair of ice skates. Peggy Flemming I ain’t.

  145. vinny-b April 6th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    There are no “great voices of baseball” any more. If you like like him, I suppose Sculley would be the last of them along with Houston’s legendary Milo Hamilton, but, I don’t care for for Sculley at all.
    ———————————

    Bob Uecker

  146. DONNYBROOK April 6th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    - JERKY -
    I like “The Hawk” because he is honest as to what he sees. He may be a lot of things, but he’s Not a Phony, and he’s Not out to impress his audience or anyone else. He tells you EXACTLY what he is seeing, and he does it without trying to be politically correct or running his thoughts thru any other filter. Besides, where else you gonna go to hear someone on TV say “dadgum”? And don’t say “Green Acres”.

  147. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    My nephew loves baseball already and he can’t even read yet… I taught him all the finer points of the game so he now knows that 1) We love the Yankees 2) Boston sucks and 3) how to say ‘Kill the ump!!’

  148. Shame Spencer April 6th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    :arrow:

    new post

  149. GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Uecker was not a voice until he hit Johnny Carson. I was talking about the voices of baseball in the midwest when I was growing up.

  150. GreenBeret7 April 6th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Harrellson is a lot of things…honest isn’t one of them.

  151. Salliedogs7 April 6th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Hello Yankee fans. Let’s get off to a good start with a “W”


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