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Postgame notes: “When it doesn’t happen, you’re a little shocked”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Apr 06, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A first-inning decision to intentionally load the bases had backfired, but the Yankees offense had rallied. CC Sabathia’s fastball command had been erratic, but he’d settled down. Dave Robertson had put the tying run at third base, but he’d struck out three in a row.

The Yankees had been in trouble all night, but it was only when they seemed to be in safe hands — arguably the safest hands in the history of the game — that Opening Day unraveled into a stunning one-run loss.

“(Mariano Rivera) is not going to be perfect the whole year,” Joe Girardi said. “But I believe he’s going to be really, really, really good. … We’re pretty used to seeing him do it. We’ve seen it over 600 times, so when it doesn’t happen, you’re a little shocked.”

The pitch Rivera wanted back was a 1-2 cutter to Desmond Jennings. It was a leadoff single, the least damaging hit of the inning, but it was a legitimate mistake. Rivera wanted the pitch down, he left it up, and everything soon spiraled. Both Rivera and Russell Martin seemed to think the Zobrist triple was a good pitch, Zobrist just did a good job with it. Loading the bases was an obvious decision, and the Sean Rodriguez might have been pivotal if not for Carlos Pena’s three-hit, five-RBI day.

“After we got that strikeout, I thought we had a chance,” Martin said. “It’s a tough spot. You try to get out of those situations, but it’s easier said than done.”

Even for the greatest of all time.

“It’s my fault,” Rivera said. “I felt good. I’m not going to make excuses for what happened. I just left the ball over the plate. It’s bad. You don’t want to start a season that way, but thank God it’s only one game.”

• In his career, Rivera had been successful in 60 of 61 save opportunities against the Rays. He’d converted his past 27 chances against them.

• What a strange night of managerial decisions. The Yankees twice intentionally loaded the bases, the Rays put on a suicide squeeze with two strikes, and at the end the Yankees had five infielders playing on the edge of the grass while two outfielders played extremely shallow.

• Girardi said intentionally loading the bases in the first inning was because of the matchup and because of the opposing starter. CC Sabathia had great numbers against Carlos Pena, and Girardi expected a low-scoring game against James Shields. “Sean Rodriguez has hit (Sabathia) hard,” Girardi explained. “And it’s not something I’ll do a lot in the first inning with CC, but as I said, Shields has been pretty tough on us. … I felt good about CC getting him out, but it didn’t work.”

• Sabathia on the decision to load the bases: “I knew I had some success off him, but like I said, it’s a lefty so I knew if I make the right pitches then we get out of it. … It was a lefty, so I felt like it was the right move.”

• Pena on his reaction to walking Rodriguez in the first inning: “I was like, ‘Woah, they are walking Sean to get to me.’ After you get past the first, initial shock, it’s time to get to business.”

• Although the grand slam came on a 3-2 pitch, Sabathia was behind 2-0 and 3-1 in the Pena at-bat. Fastball command was an early problem for the Yankees ace. The third-inning Longoria home run came on a 1-0 pitch. “Early in the game, he wasn’t really where he wanted to be,” Russell Martin said. “But as the game went along, it looked like he started to get that comfort level back.” Sabathia pitched his final 3.2 innings scoreless.

• I don’t know about you, but I don’t think I’d ever actually seen a true five-man infield. I’ve seen some shifts where an outfielder plays extremely shallow, almost in the infield, but in the ninth inning the Yankees had five true infielders, all playing on the edge of the infield grass. Eduardo Nunez was playing up the middle. “Man, it has been a while,” Teixeira said. “They never ask me to go to the middle. But that was the right call there.”

• Raul Ibanez had never hit an Opening Day home run until today. It was his 14th time on an Opening Day roster and his 11th start. In the final two weeks of spring training he hit .304 with three homers, and had a fourth home run opportunity robbed by an over-the-wall catch. “Spring training’s over now and everything that happened before today is really irrelevant,” Ibanez said.

• Shields had gone at least seven innings in 11 straight starts. Tonight he lasted five innings and gave up all six Yankees runs. “I don’t ever remember scoring that many runs off him,” Teixeira said. “He’s been really tough off us. We did get a lot of guys on base, but it’d be nice to get a couple more.” The Yankees were 2-for-11 with runners in scoring position.

• The Rays have now won five straight against the Yankees for the first time in franchise history.

• Pena was 0-for-11 with three strikeouts in his career against Rivera. He was 4-for-35 against Sabathia, including an 0-for-14 slump with 11 strikeouts.

• Alex Rodriguez has hit safely in all eight Opening Day games he has played with the Yankees, the longest streak for the franchise since Lou Gehrig hit safely in 12 straight Opening Day games from 1926 to 1937.

• I don’t think anyone expects Rivera to blow a save or for Sabathia and Shields to be knocked around on the same night, but there was something very familiar about the Yankees opener. “It was a good four-hour game,” Girardi said. “We’re back. Nothing’s changed.”

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263 Responses to “Postgame notes: “When it doesn’t happen, you’re a little shocked””

  1. Yogi Mantle April 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Girardi is just not a good in game manager. While Rivera takes the hit, and he was in a bad position, Girardi had him intentionally walk the bases loaded. Girardi is constantly over-managed in games, even by a micro-manager like Maddon. It’s like he thinks he has to do something to prove he belongs.

  2. versonine April 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Its time for Swisher to go. He is as useless as a 3 dollar bill.

  3. RadioKev April 6th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Yogi Mantle April 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
    Girardi is just not a good in game manager. While Rivera takes the hit, and he was in a bad position, Girardi had him intentionally walk the bases loaded. Girardi is constantly over-managed in games, even by a micro-manager like Maddon. It’s like he thinks he has to do something to prove he belongs.
    —————–

    Walking the bases loaded in that 9th inning spot is a by the book move.

  4. blake April 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    not a bad debut for Campos

    6 innings, 1 hit, 3 k’s, 0 runs, 1 walk

    Mason was 2-4 with 2 doubles, Dante 1-4, Sanchez 2-3

    Also….Campos only needed 65 pitches for those 6 innings….me like that line bunches

  5. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    I’m dismissing the positives and the negatives due to small sample size.

  6. blake April 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Betances pitched ok….left with the lead….5 innings 2 runs, 6k’s ….it’s the first start of the year….but I hope they let these guys go deeper here soon….

  7. rm April 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    The extra infielder may have been the right move with no outs but after the first out a third outfielder and double play depth in the infield may have made more sense. I think Maddon had him way to conerned about the squeeze.

  8. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    I’m still wondering how the Desmond Jennings soft grounder got by Jeter… or how Granderson & Swisher turned that flyball into a triple?

  9. comet April 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    That Girardi made the decision to walk Rodriguez is amazing. Maddon probably adds 5 to seven games a year to the Rays win column. Girardi likely costs the Yankeses 5 or 6 games a year. Knowing that Girardi will cost us games is a given.

    That said it is one game out of 162. Nothing to panic about yet.

  10. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Hi comet,

    I am stunned by your comment. I think you are always so positive, that to hear a somewhat negative one is surprising. I agree is only one game, but in this case as moronic the loading of the bases in the first inning was, it didn’t cost us the game. I think leaving all those runners on base did. One good thing about tonight is that Mo got his regular blown game of the season, so everything from here on out should be peachy ;)

    For the record, i am no Girardi fan.

  11. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Pujols first Angels AB coming up….Montero also

  12. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    I liked the odds there of Pena not hitting a HR against Sabathia to be honest…..he’s terrible against LHP and Sabathia is one of the best lefties in baseball…..CC got behind….Pena guessed fastball….got one up and hit it…..the Yanks took the lead after that then proceeded to not score anymore against terrible relief pitchers…..then still took the lead into the 9th with the best closer in history on the mound…..some games you just lose and analyzing it to death will drive you nuts.

  13. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    some games you just lose and analyzing it to death will drive you nuts.

    This one doesn’t need to be analyzed to death, we can make one simple analysis. IBBing anyone in the first inning of the first game of the season is asinine :)

  14. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Mason has had 5 AB’s this spring….he’s hit a triple, 2 doubles, and a line out

  15. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    “IBBing anyone in the first inning of the first game of the season is asinine :)

    maybe….but Pena hit .133 against LHP last year…..I didn’t like the move either but they still should have won despite that…..

  16. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Blake,

    What you say is true, but why add an additional base runner in the first inning when your ace is on the mound, but is having trouble to command the FB?….For me that was leaving little to no margin of error for CC. Probably if they don’t load the bases, CC doesn’t throw that FB.

  17. Bret The Hitman April 6th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    I don’t care for Swish. Eyeballing Melky Cabrera for RF. Not gonna lie.

    BRING BACK MELKMAN !!!

  18. Bret The Hitman April 6th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Mo’s ERA is 54.0 !!!! :lol:

  19. Yanks78 April 6th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    They still regained a 2-run lead by the 4th inning – and who knows how the game goes if CC gets out of the 1st with no runs. Maybe someone bunts, tries to steal and gets thrown out, etc. changing the course of the game.

    CC giving up the Longo HR and us not tacking on for 6 innings cost us. It’s not like they lost the game 4-3 or something.

  20. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    luis,

    I agree…I didn’t like the move…..mainly because of how CC was pitching more than anything….if CC had been on he strikes Pena out almost every time…..if he could have thrown a slider for a strike he would have that time….he got in a bad count and Pena guessed fastball and got it up…..it was just a bad game

  21. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    I am on Team Melky now.

    One name: Melky.

    That name again: Melky.

  22. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    Smoak is probably gonna leave Montero on deck a lot this year.

  23. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    The Royals are getting better…..but Bruce Chen is their opening day starter…..

  24. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I call first AB bomb by Pujols

  25. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    Blake,

    Yup, that was it….a bad game. nothing to worry about though

  26. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    Waldman said that CC said the move was “strange,” but that it was the manager’s decision. She showed more skepticism about the move than one might expect from an sometimes sycophantic quasi-Yankee employee. I was kind of shocked, but in a good way.

  27. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    The spoke and Joe listened….simple as that….he couldn’t pass up that .133 vs LHP for Pena

  28. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    *the binder spoke^

  29. pat April 6th, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    “Maddon probably adds 5 to seven games a year to the Rays win column.”

    Tough for me to see Maddon’s genius a couple of hours after he had Molina
    attempt to bunt with 2 strikes.

    Can you imagine the reaction Maddon would get pulling some of the stuff he does if he managed the Yankees?

  30. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Albert looks like he dropped a few lbs this winter

  31. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    Smoak is probably gonna leave Montero on deck a lot this year.

    =============================

    Eventually the roles will be reversed….Montero will bat cleanup

  32. pat April 6th, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    “I am on Team Melky now.”

    Welcome. Unfortunately we haven’t had enough players to field a team in 3 years.

  33. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    “Can you imagine the reaction Maddon would get pulling some of the stuff he does if he managed the Yankees?”

    I think he’d live with any noise if given the chance.

  34. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    They don’t call him”Binder Joe” for nothing! ;)

  35. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    Montero will one day be leaving Smoak on deck? :(

  36. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    Sean Rodriguez has hit CC hard? Give me a friggin break. 21 at bats you small sample size slave. It’s Sean f’ing Rodriguez!!!

  37. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    ZOMG, I spoke his name and here he is! :shock:

  38. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    pat, I have been saving my “got melky?” shirt for Melky Mesa, but I’d much rather bring it out of retirement for The Real Melky.

  39. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Montero groundout to shortstop

  40. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Jesus watch: routine ground out

  41. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Montero growing a little stubtle beard…..distancing himself from the pinstripes

  42. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    will it be a good Friday for Jesus?

  43. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    And stop blaming the offense. They scored 6 runs. I guess everyone would be happy if they spread those 6 runs over 6 innings?

  44. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Maybe he said he wouldn’t shave again until he got another hit?

  45. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    watch Campos end up being the best player in the trade

    ;)

  46. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    Montero will one day be leaving Smoak on deck? :(

    ========

    :D No i think he will clear the bases for him ;)

  47. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    “watch Campos end up being the best player in the trade”

    Where do I sign?

  48. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Jesus seemed to be “fixing himself” a bit before that AB.

    Might he be donning the golden thong for good luck?

  49. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    He brought a mochi thong back from Tokyo.

  50. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    BD,

    I don’t think so…..Wasn’t he crucified on good Friday? :)

    Seriously now, he needs to go back to his patient approach and go the other way and he will be fine. He is a little pull happy.

  51. comet April 6th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Hi Luis:

    One of the things I’m not positive about Girardi. His style of managing, which is robotic and overly predictable, leaves me cold. I really like a manager like Maddon or Leyland to name a couple who are not predictable and don’t need a binder to tell them the right move.

    The offence hurt them again today by not being able to add some runs when they had the opportunity. I’m disappointed in Cashman’s work over the winter. Despite scoring the most runs last year the Yankees lost a lot of games the way they did today. Yet no efforts to improve the offence were made. I’m kinda in Randy’s camp when it comes to management.

    I usually don’t express my misgivings, because win or lose I’m a Yankees fan. I want them to win above all else. I’ve been a fan since 1965 when I started following baseball. Had a late start living in Canada. Hockey dominated the news when I was kid.

    Cheers,

    C

  52. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    “Seriously now, he needs to go back to his patient approach and go the other way and he will be fine. He is a little pull happy.”

    ———

    he was definitely pulling on something

    he’ll be fine. loooong season.

  53. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    “I call first AB bomb by Pujols”

    ~

    I’m happier with the actual outcome – GDIP

    ;)

  54. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    I basically agree with everything comet said, except for the hockey part. :D

  55. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Fosse just called Cespedes a real 5-tool player, which doesn’t even count the pig-roasting tool.

  56. comet April 6th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Rich you have to be kidding about the hockey part?

  57. luis April 6th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    comet April 6th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Hi Luis:

    One of the things I’m not positive about Girardi. His style of managing, which is robotic and overly predictable, leaves me cold. I really like a manager like Maddon or Leyland to name a couple who are not predictable and don’t need a binder to tell them the right move.

    The offence hurt them again today by not being able to add some runs when they had the opportunity. I’m disappointed in Cashman’s work over the winter. Despite scoring the most runs last year the Yankees lost a lot of games the way they did today. Yet no efforts to improve the offence were made. I’m kinda in Randy’s camp when it comes to management.

    I usually don’t express my misgivings, because win or lose I’m a Yankees fan. I want them to win above all else. I’ve been a fan since 1965 when I started following baseball. Had a late start living in Canada. Hockey dominated the news when I was kid.

    Cheers,

    C

    ===============

    I agree with you, i am on Randy’s camp as well. You sum it up very well. I thought the offense was the problem as well. And like you i am a Yankee first and foremost. I wouldn’t go as far as wanting someone like Maddon, but i certainly would like someone who would think outside of the box once in a while at least.

  58. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Cespedes plays with a little flair.

  59. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    there ya go Rosy!

  60. JobaTipsHisCap April 6th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Cc is not a real ace.
    From the later half of last season he struggled vs. good teams, just check his starts against sux.

    It might be the right time for mo walk away.

    But cc is the one to blame.

  61. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    YES I am, comet.

    Let’s Go Rangers!

  62. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    “I usually don’t express my misgivings, because win or lose I’m a Yankees fan. I want them to win above all else. ”

    ————–

    well then you should know the Yanks won’t win every game.

    that management you seemingly despise won the most games in the league last season.

    if the Yanks win tomorrow, posts like the one you just made will disappear… until they lose another game.

  63. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    “It might be the right time for mo walk away.”

    It’s not like we can stop him when he’s ready to go, but we can TRY!

  64. JobaTipsHisCap April 6th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    One more thing, the manager is awful.

    He should be fired in site, just pure moronic call.

  65. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Jesus could come up in an RBI spot this inning.

  66. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    load em up for Monstero?

  67. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    “if the Yanks win tomorrow, posts like the one you just made will disappear… until they lose another game.”

    You really hate dissent, BD. People can still be passionate fans while thinking that the team is run in a suboptimal way.

  68. JobaTipsHisCap April 6th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    At least arod is good.

  69. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    that management you seemingly despise won the most games in the league last season.

    That is said far too often. And it’s meaningless. You know it’s possible for a good team to do well despite a poor manager.

  70. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    “You really hate dissent, BD. ”

    ———-

    I hate whining after every loss.

    The best teams in the league lose 40% of the time.

    If losing makes people so miserable, then stop watching. Constant b1tching after every game adds nothing.

    Like I said, if the Yanks win a couple in a row, the negativity dissipates. Then they lose 2-0 and the calls for Girardi and Cashman to be fired ‘on the spot’ come back.

    Really?

  71. JobaTipsHisCap April 6th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    Wtf,I dvr the game and all I got is walk off lose.

    What the fxxk.

  72. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Cespedes is so strong he can throw the ball backwards and hold the runners.

  73. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Man, I wanted Cespedes to throw that ball so I could see if he’s got a cannon.

    (dropped the ball on the transfer)

  74. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Monstero RBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:

  75. blake April 6th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    hard hit line drive sac fly for Montero…..the A’s are so terrible.

  76. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    nice job Jesus

    hit that well

  77. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    It’s not losing the game, and it’s not one game, people have been not impressed with Girardi’s managing for years.

  78. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    That’s the kind of effortless, preternatural situational hitting that Cashman dealt away like it was pocket lint.

    Deliver us!!! :mad:

  79. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    “It’s not losing the game, and it’s not one game, people have been not impressed with Girardi’s managing for years.”

    ————

    you new here?

    or did you simply not read the post I was referring to?

  80. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    “I hate whining after every loss.”

    But you seem equate whining with criticism. I don’t think that’s the case.

    Criticism isn’t necessarily negativity; it is often a reflection of reality.

    Baseball isn’t real life, so misery is impossible, at least for me.

    Now, thinking that CC isn’t an ace or suggesting Mo is done, is another matter.

    But, as I posted, Waldman said that CC said that Girardi’s first inning decision was “strange.”

    Certainly, you wouldn’t suggest that he was whining after a loss.

    btw, I don’t want anyone fired now. Those moves are for crises or during an offseason of reflection when better candidates are ready to take over.

    I think you are overgeneralizing…by a lot.

  81. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    BD,

    I do respect you a great deal. But Comet’s comment has nothing to do with losing a game. I think she or he is just expressing something that goes beyond winning or losing a single game. let’s wait and see.

  82. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    “But you seem equate whining with criticism. I don’t think that’s the case.”

    ——–

    Rich, I know you see it.

    Every loss the mood in here changes.

    There are certainly criticisms and Girardi’s decision today was questionable.

    I’m just tired of hearing the “fire Girardi” “fire Cashman” “this offense is an embarrassment” etc etc etc after every loss.

    I don’t think I’m generalizing at all. This blog becomes crap after losses and it’s not that hard to figure out why.

    Heck, the Yankees can’t even fall behind in a game without it turning to crap.

  83. Benny Blanco April 6th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    how long will it take for mo to get his era back to respectable numbers? He’s currently at 54.00

  84. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    “But Comet’s comment has nothing to do with losing a game.”

    ———–

    maybe I shouldn’t have singled that out, but I doubt we’ll see Comet posting how the offense needs improvement after the Yankees win.

  85. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    BD

    I hear you, and I don’t often visit game threads for that reason, but I think you have to distinguish venting (which is normal) from inanity (let Mo walk).

    I don’t read every post, but I only noticed one person’s on this thread that was goofy.

  86. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    BD,

    I wouldn’t equate Comet to those that troll the blog when the team is down. JMHO

  87. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    if Mo throw 8 and 2/3 scoreless innings then his era will be back to 2…..it’ll be where it always is by the end of the season.

  88. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
    “It’s not losing the game, and it’s not one game, people have been not impressed with Girardi’s managing for years.”

    ————

    you new here?

    or did you simply not read the post I was referring to?

    Been here about 5 years, thanks.

    I read your post, in which you criticized people because you thought they were complaining about losing one game. Not everyone is complaining about losing one game.

  89. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    If the under/over on blake’s math SAT is 700, I’m taking the over!!!! :)

  90. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    “there ya go Rosy!”

    ~

    Back from my dinner break (hubby’s homemade chili and cornbread)

    Well – that was a weird inning (was listening on the radio) …
    sounds like the A’s were a little shaky on D (and why didn’t Figgy score the first time he tagged up?). Anyhoo, 4-spots are good :-)

    As for the Angels/Royals game…
    it’s always a good sign when the “vent thread” on the Halos board I follow is longer than the “Game Day” thread ;)

  91. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    I got at least what you get for spelling your name right on the SAT

  92. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Figgy didn’t score because the fly ball was way too shallow and Cespedes has a good arm.

  93. blake April 6th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Welcome to the AL Albert…..they don’t have pitchers like Bruce Chen in the NL!

  94. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    “Not everyone is complaining about losing one game.”

    ————

    If you read my post, you would have seen that I didn’t say ‘everyone.’ please don’t misquote me.

    if you’re really been here 5 years, then you know the complaining is ten times worse after a loss. I consider it complaining, maybe you consider it sweet music. C’est la vie.

  95. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    I am in Curacao, and i thought that i was going to have better internet service..Wrong!

  96. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    “BD

    I hear you, and I don’t often visit game threads for that reason, but I think you have to distinguish venting (which is normal) from inanity (let Mo walk).”

    ————

    I agree. Maybe I missed on this one…. I’ll work on my sifting through the post-loss sewage to find the more thoughtful posts.

  97. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Thanks, JS.
    The announcers sounded rather incredulous that he had tagged but came back (I thought they said the fielder initially dropped the ball)

    ******

    YF ~ are you around?
    I just checked out the Jackson Generals game – the first of “the big 3″ pitched tonight…
    James Paxton 7IP – 3H – 0ER – 0BB – 12K

    I likey :)

  98. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Rosy,

    can’t wait for the Yu v. Noesi matchup. I’d love to see Hector mow down that Texas lineup.

    You see the Campos line from tonight? :)

  99. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Boston Dave, I will support your right to dissent from the oppressive mediocrity you observe.

    When they try to silence you, they try to silence us all. Except them, I mean.

  100. comet April 6th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    BD I would post the same post after any game. Yes I would fire Girardi tomorrow. No I wouldn’t fire Cashman.

    It isn’t whining it is my perception of the state of the Yankee universe. Since there are no ultimate truths when it comes to managerial styles most perceptions are of equal value.

    You might notice that I did not say CC wasn’t an ace or that Mo was finished! Simply put I don’t think much of Girardi. Every time he makes a bad decision I’ll be happy to post about it.

  101. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    I wouldn’t mind being in Curacao even with no internet.

  102. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    BD ~

    Just looked up Jose’s line – very nice!

    I’m looking forward to Monday’s game as well….
    Normally, being a CT first pitch, I wouldn’t get home from work until about the 5th inning or so. But, my son is having his wisdom teeth extracted on Monday morning – so I took the day off to tend to him and get the fringe benefit of being able to watch the entire game :)

  103. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    Nick,

    For the record: I wasn’t trying to silence dissent, in my case, i was just trying to make BD see that Comet wasn’t the typical whiner. Quite the contrary, Comet is one of the most positive posters around here.

    Isn’t to argue about the team what this blog is all about?, silencing dissent basically ends any type of constructive dialogue.

  104. Jerkface April 6th, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    Wow that cespedes bomb.

  105. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    WOW, Cespedes just crushed one.

  106. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Jiminey.

  107. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    thanks Nick

    This valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition!

  108. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    or something to that effect

  109. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Cespedes just hit a monster home run

  110. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Cespedes with a BOMB

    wow

    pig roast is right

  111. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Cespedes!!!

    luis, there is no dissent, there is no silencing of dissent.

    It’s all a joke.

  112. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Cespedes boosts his trade deadline cache.

  113. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    “Cespedes boosts his trade deadline cache.”

    ———

    funny, that’s about the first thing I thought of as well when I saw that blast

  114. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    “there is no dissent, there is no silencing of dissent.”

    You live for it.

  115. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
    Thanks, JS.
    The announcers sounded rather incredulous that he had tagged but came back (I thought they said the fielder initially dropped the ball)

    I think Figgins saw that Cespedes was going to catch the ball, and it seemed clear that Figgins only bluffed because first he stopped, then he saw Cespedes drop the ball on the transfer, then Figgins took a step, then decided against it. Figgins couldn’t really do anything, Damon could throw him out from there.

  116. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    of course Cespedes may be getting some chin music in his next AB after standing it to admire his shot

  117. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    “You live for it.”

    Dissenting or silencing dissent?

  118. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    “Dissenting or silencing dissent?”

    Apparently, both.

  119. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Cespedes does do a little styling.

  120. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    I wouldn’t mind being in Curacao even with no internet.

    ==============

    :D Me neither, but i thought this place would be a little better than Venezuela.

  121. Bo knows April 6th, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Well, I see the micro pore is still in full force. Fire Girardi, Cashman is an idiot going strong. I especially liked the overmanage Girardi calls.

    “You don’t IBB in the first inning”.

    Do runs count less in the first inning?

  122. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    “Apparently, both.

    Danger, slippery slope ahead. :lol:

  123. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    At least Jesus picked the right jersey # (63) if he’s gonna ground out to shortstop that often.

  124. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    BD ~

    yeah – Blowers mentioned Vargas was none too happy ’bout the “admiration stance”

    ****

    Still scoreless in Anaheim.

    But, on AngelsWin there is no contest…
    - Vent thread = 212 posts
    - Game Day thread = 82 posts

    ;-)

  125. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    “Me neither, but i thought this place would be a little better than Venezuela.”

    Try NJ sometime. ;)

  126. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Nick,

    Oops!, sorry then. That’s one of the drawbacks of having English as your second language, you miss some of the humor.

  127. BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Rosy,

    See, at least they have a vent thread! Brilliant.

    Chad?

  128. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    We could have a “dissent” thread and a “crush the spirits of the oppressed with our polished jackboots”.

    But we might not agree on who should be posting in which. :neutral:

  129. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Rosy,

    See, at least they have a vent thread! Brilliant.

    Chad?

    =================

    If you could have different threads, then why not have an Spanish only thread?….Nah! it would be too lonely :)

  130. jacksquat April 6th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    I susptect Montero is going to hit into quite few dp’s, since he hits 5th and doesn’t seem like he’ll strike out a lot, and is a pretty slow runner.

  131. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    It’s hard to understand why people read sht that bothers them.

  132. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    Try NJ sometime. ;)

    _____—-

    Can’t be as bad as down here ;)

  133. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    oh yes, BD. The are EXTREMELY protective of their game day thread.

    It’s quite impressive, really. The have a couple of posters who actually do play-by-play of the entirety of every game. Comments are allowed – good and bad – but any real hard-core venting has to be taken to the vent thread. Of course I’m always hoping to see a huge vent thread every game ;-)

  134. Rich in NJ April 6th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    “Can’t be as bad as down here”

    Based on what I read in the WSJ tonight, change my be in the offing for you guys.

    NJ is actually pretty good, but I was born here, so what do I know?

  135. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    I can’t dissent from it or attempt to stifle it if I don’t read it, Rich.

  136. CompassRosy April 6th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Now THAT’s the Figgy I remember!
    (when he was playing against the M’s)

  137. luis April 6th, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Squeeze play by the M’s 6-2

  138. Nick in SF April 6th, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    Ok, no fooling, I would like to see Ichiro go yard or clear the bases.

  139. luis April 7th, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Rich,

    I certainly hope so.

  140. Nick in SF April 7th, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Oh well, one RBI at least.

  141. jacksquat April 7th, 2012 at 12:03 am

    Throw beat him, catcher was a little too far back imo.

  142. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:03 am

    tipee toe, Ryan.

  143. luis April 7th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Get on base Smoak, i want to see Jesus with the bases loaded

  144. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    “I can’t dissent from it or attempt to stifle it if I don’t read it, Rich.”

    You finally threw a strike!

  145. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Sabathia on the walk:

    “Mark Feinsand
    Also In Opening Day
    Did Sabathia agree with the decision to walk Sean Rodriguez to load the bases for Carlos Pena in the first inning? “Yeah, he always puts good at-bats on me. So Joe made the move and it was the right move. If I made the pitches we’d have nothing to talk about.”

    Yankees lack of “clutch hitting”

    “Marc Carig
    Also In Opening Day
    Since @theTrichomeMan asked, here are the Yankees’ AL ranks beginning in ’05 for average w/RISP: ’05 .272 (6 of 14) ’06 .286 (5), ’07 .293 (2), ’08 .261 (10), ’09 .272 (5), ’10 .258 (7), ’11 .273 (5). Could they better? Yes. But I’d say is far from being “appalling with men on.”

  146. BD (Boston Dave) April 7th, 2012 at 12:07 am

    “It’s hard to understand why people read sht that bothers them.”

    ————

    if people would just mark their posts as sht things would be so much easier ;)

  147. pat April 7th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    jonmorosi
    Albert Pujols just fanned on three pitches. In his defense, Bruce Chen to Aaron Crow is an abrupt transition.

    Do players need a defense for striking out and do writers usually provide them one?

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    11 hits in the game and the DH couldn’t even manage one? It’s not like he’s expending any energy in the field!

    SMH

    I knew this guy was overhyped!

    :D

  149. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:09 am

    argh!

  150. BD (Boston Dave) April 7th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Vargas with a sick grab….. then throws it in to CF :O

  151. Nick in SF April 7th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Rich, did I or someone else hurt your feelings? You seem to really be taking things seriously.

  152. jacksquat April 7th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2012 at 12:06 am
    Sabathia on the walk:

    “Mark Feinsand
    Also In Opening Day
    Did Sabathia agree with the decision to walk Sean Rodriguez to load the bases for Carlos Pena in the first inning? “Yeah, he always puts good at-bats on me. So Joe made the move and it was the right move. If I made the pitches we’d have nothing to talk about.”

    And if CC ever said anything like “no, I didn’t agree with the move, but Joe is the boss”, I’ll choke on my pretzels.

  153. Benny Blanco April 7th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    weaver with 8ip 4 hits and 10k’s

  154. luis April 7th, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Hi Trish!,

    Let’s not get in to that! :)

  155. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Nick

    Are you suggesting that I use more emoticons?

  156. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Not too worry, Sis.
    I’ve no doubt there’ll be many nights when JM has the only hits ;)

  157. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:13 am

    Waldman and Feinsand have different reporting on CC’s comments.

  158. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    roh-ro.
    Bases loaded in Anaheim with one out – Bourjos up, then Albert….

  159. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:14 am

    luis – :D

    Couldn’t help it.

    Sis – there’s always a danger in saying too much. Better to let things speak for themselves.

    Another example – Raul Ibanez.

    I tend to counsel the “wait and watch” method of discernment.

    ;)

  160. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    *to (not too)

  161. luis April 7th, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Nick

    Are you suggesting that I use more emoticons?

    ========================

    And i thought i was the one lost in translation. :)

  162. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:16 am

    “Another example – Raul Ibanez.”

    By this logic, Mo is done. One games means nothing.

  163. Nick in SF April 7th, 2012 at 12:16 am

    No.

  164. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:20 am

    “Sis – there’s always a danger in saying too much. Better to let things speak for themselves.”

    ECS ~

    Indeed.
    Still a ways to go in this game but, I’m pleased as punch that the M’s bats have been “speaking”. Takes some getting used to though – I had grown rather used to their silence.

    ;-)

  165. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    luis – I’ve been clear that I believe Montero will be a human rake.

    But I haven’t made it a daily mantra.

    People don’t tend to remember intermittent thoughts. But they certainly remember daily mantras, especially of the Montero variety!

    :)

    *******************

    I’m proud of myself that I totally avoided Yankee baseball today (my Good Friday sacrifice). I didn’t even check the radio for a score. My reward is that I didn’t have to sit through a Yankee loss accompanied by (what I’m sure was) a forum of woe and foreboding!

    I see that the offense came back. That’s a very good thing.

    Onward and Upward!

  166. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:22 am

    4-0 Halos in Anaheim.

    Vent thread still leading though … 408-131

  167. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:24 am

    “By this logic, Mo is done. One games means nothing.”

    Odd, I didn’t hear constant p*ssing and moaning about Mo all ST. And for those with any power of observation, it isn’t just one game. Ibanez has been picking his game up for a while now. Of course if you were one of the whiners, you probably have avoided anything that would prove you wrong on that one.

  168. BD (Boston Dave) April 7th, 2012 at 12:25 am

    that was a swing…

    sorry Jesus

  169. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:26 am

    Sis, as you totally know, I am THRILLED for your guys and hope the good feeling carries over. If you had this kind of offense going the past few years, you would have either been on top or close to it. I remember so many of your games where you lost the game in later innings because you couldn’t get the key hits when you needed them.

    GO M’S!!!!!

  170. luis April 7th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    Trish,

    I know i was just joking. ;) I am out so a bid you all a very good night.

  171. m April 7th, 2012 at 12:27 am

    LoHud is a vent blog. :lol:

  172. Nick in SF April 7th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    All you really need to understand, luis, is that everything means less than zero.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHQK3yo9CBA

  173. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    luis – I’m playing with ya too. I hope you know that.

    My human rake prediction is still very much alive and well.

    :)

  174. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    “Odd, I didn’t hear constant p*ssing and moaning about Mo all ST. And for those with any power of observation, it isn’t just one game. Ibanez has been picking his game up for a while now. Of course if you were one of the whiners, you probably have avoided anything that would prove you wrong on that one.”

    OMG, no words.

  175. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:29 am

    mel – oh yeah.

    :D

  176. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Thanks, Sis.

    I’m VERY impressed with your sacrifice today :)
    Not sure I could do it. In fact, I’ve tried before (not checking a game score, so I could watch later without knowing the outcome). No will power. At all.

  177. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:31 am

    “OMG, no words.”

    Refreshing.

    *************

    Well I’m out. It’s been a long day and the weekend will be busy.

    I’m in sunny Florida all next week. I’m going to be really starved for baseball when I get back because I’m positive my friends won’t have subscribed to Extra Innings.

    :(

  178. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:32 am

    “Refreshing.”

    In honor of Good Friday, I am turning the other cheek…

    Oh wait…. :)

  179. UnKnown April 7th, 2012 at 12:33 am

    The M’s announcers were not too pleased that Cespedes pimped that HR that he hit. Basically they said that later in the summer Vargas is going to make Cespedes wear one for it. I think the two bottom dwellars of the West are already getting sick of each other.

    Anyways, tough loss today. Hurts more today then it would’ve if it happened sometime in July. How a player rounds a base is going to get over analyzed on opening day. We all know that.

    Thank goodness we don’t have an off day tommorrow and can get right back after it to get this bad taste out of our mouths.

    With that said, I would take a 1 run lead with MO on the mound in the 9th 162 times a year plus postseason. It’s just that today it didn’t work out. Let’s move on its going to be a long season.

  180. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Rich – when you throw a softball, you have to expect it to be walloped!

    And by the way, it is now Saturday.

  181. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:34 am

    ESPNStatsInfo
    Yoenis Cespedes homer in 4th traveled 462 feet, longest home run so far this year in the majors.

    **

    And what a long year it has been.

    ;-)

  182. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:35 am

    trisha

    You cited a sample size of one and I threw a softball?

    (I only said that because it’s Saturday!)

  183. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Rich – reading comprehension either not your strong suit, or you’re just stubborn.

    Night all!

  184. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:37 am

    Albert 0/3 with a walk but Halos win it 5-0

  185. BD (Boston Dave) April 7th, 2012 at 12:38 am

    what’s the over under on how many years it’ll be before the San Diego Padres win a World Series?

    heck, how many before they make the playoffs?

    get rid of that team already

  186. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    trisha

    “it isn’t just one game. Ibanez has been picking his game up for a while now”

    That could be, but if you think ST AB makes your case, then reading isn’t the issue.

  187. jacksquat April 7th, 2012 at 12:40 am

    UnKnown April 7th, 2012 at 12:33 am
    The M’s announcers were not too pleased that Cespedes pimped that HR that he hit. Basically they said that later in the summer Vargas is going to make Cespedes wear one for it. I think the two bottom dwellars of the West are already getting sick of each other.

    Oh come on, he didn’t “pimp”. He just walked a few steps while watching it and then started running around the bases (not a slow run either). If you hit a shot like that you deserve to watch it. In video’s I watched of him he sometimes “hopped” a little down the line like Sammy Sosa after hitting bombs. I’d hate to hear what they thought of that. I was kind of hoping to see it myself. (nothing against the Mariners)

  188. UnKnown April 7th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Jacksquat –
    Yeah I mean just saying that the M’s TV guys were kind’ve crabby about the bomb. Obviously being a Yankee fan and having to watch that piece of crap Ortiz hit bombs, I am used to seeing people pimp HR’s. That sack of crap pimps a ducksnort.

  189. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 12:49 am

    wait, what?
    Figgy has three hits?

    **

    correction to my earlier posting re: Paxton (MiL game day was messed up for a time)
    5.2 IP – 2H – 0ER – 0BB – 10K (oh – is THAT all?) ;-)

    **

    And, in case you missed it…
    Campos 6.0IP – 1H – 0ER – 1BB – 3K

    thumbs up, Jose!

  190. jacksquat April 7th, 2012 at 12:54 am

    Yeah, personally I don’t mind a little styling as long as it’s not taunting.

  191. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 12:57 am

    Maybe people object because he hasn’t established himself, but if it keeps up and people don’t like it, they can either stop him from hitting HR or flip him.

    Personally, I agree with jack.

  192. UnKnown April 7th, 2012 at 12:58 am

    12hrs ago ? @DanBarbarisi
    Nick Swisher says this Yankee lineup matches up with the gold standard: the 1927 Murderers Row yanks http://on.wsj.com/Hkjt6v

    —-

    How come every year someone has to compare a team to the 1927 Yanks. It’s just dumb…

  193. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 1:06 am

    Nick must be in his manic phase.

  194. Tyler April 7th, 2012 at 1:07 am

    Swisher would probably be comparable to the bat boy on that 1927 Yankees team…

  195. Tyler April 7th, 2012 at 1:09 am

    I’m in an AL only fantasy baseball league so I picked up Smoak in a later round thinking that maybe he finally validates the hype surrounding him… Is he really this bad? Scouts were crazy over this guy at the draft and in the minors….

  196. jacksquat April 7th, 2012 at 1:10 am

    12hrs ago ? @DanBarbarisi
    Nick Swisher says this Yankee lineup matches up with the gold standard: the 1927 Murderers Row yanks http://on.wsj.com/Hkjt6v

    hmmm

    1927 Yankees 127 team OPS+
    that’s with pitchers hitting (no dh)

    2011 Yankees 106 team OPS+

    2007 Yankees 116 OPS+
    (968 runs scored)

    Good luck!

  197. Bo knows April 7th, 2012 at 1:16 am

    How come every year someone has to compare a team to the 1927 Yanks. It’s just dumb…

    ————————
    Well, Swisher sure qualifies in the dumb section.

    After that post season performance – Just shut your mouth Swish.

    The last Murderer’s Row comp was Boston last year. How did that work out?

  198. CompassRosy April 7th, 2012 at 1:19 am

    My M’s get a win on their “birthday”
    (35 years ago today, they played their very first game)

    Mere babes in the baseball world ;-)

  199. Pat M. April 7th, 2012 at 2:45 am

    I was at the time hoping to be able to get to the bigs and hang around for the expansion draft…..I was a tweener caught between the two expansions…..I think Otto Velez played for Seattle though via the expansion draft…..Man, that seems like a lifetime ago, I was 25

  200. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2012 at 3:08 am

    Marc Carig
    A wrinkle in the Michael Pineda Saga: Turns out that Pineda was slated to arrive at M’s camp Jan. 22 to work out early, just as he did before his great rookie year. Then Pineda got traded, and there was a 10-day lag before it became official. Ultimately, Pineda didn’t arrive in Tampa until Feb. 14, still early, but not as planned. Impossible to know if extra 3 weeks of work would have made difference. But Pineda knows this much: “Next year, I’m coming early. I’m doing my plan.” More in a bit.

  201. Pat M. April 7th, 2012 at 3:37 am

    GB…….Pineda will be throwing 98 aspirins by Mid May and fans around the country will come in groves to see him pitch…..

  202. comet April 7th, 2012 at 4:00 am

    Anyone out there?

  203. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 6:31 am

    Good Morning folks. The day after the great defeat.

  204. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 6:56 am

    Did y’all see these Robbie Cano highlight reel over at RAB? http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....d-6-66553/

    :D

  205. The Genius Maker April 7th, 2012 at 7:05 am

    My take on the game

    http://www.stevewigdor.blogspot.com/

  206. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 7:16 am

    Good morning Comet.

  207. Villa Nova-Ya April 7th, 2012 at 7:27 am

    I wouldn’t have walked Rodriguez in the first inning. And from the second Kay said that 2 of the 4 hits Pena’s gotten against CC, I knew it was going to be a bad outcome. No second guessing at all. First guessing all the way.

    I understand the reasoning, but I still didn’t like the decision. And as far as Shields being a tough pitcher on the Yankees, well, he didn’t look so hot that first inning. Threw a lot of pitches. But then again, you never know with those types of guys – if you don’t get them in the first, you sometimes don’t get them at all.

    Grandy had a bad day, that didn’t help. I applaud our offense for coming back and putting them in a position to win after that immediate 4-run deficit. And Congrats to Raul Ibanez for as good a first day as a Yankee as you can have. They had opportunities to tack on, and as much as people gripe about tack on runs, they make it easier for the bullpen at the end of the game. Cushion.

    Too bad Tex’s foul ball just missed being a HR. Two bad after the 3rd, the didn’t get the one hit they needed to get that cushion.

    But it was seriously one of those games that isn’t fun to watch at all. And Joe Maddon drives me nuts. Sure, he’s willing to try almost anything, in a throw spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks kind of way. He’s an “I’m smarter than the world” kind of manager. Don’t get me wrong, he is smart, and he has been a great manager for the Rays, there can be no real debate there. But there’s something about him that just irks me and I don’t know if his type of managing could translate to a veteran team like the Yankees.

  208. Villa Nova-Ya April 7th, 2012 at 7:32 am

    GB7 -

    That is an interesting piece of information on Pineda.

    I know that there are those here that said the Yankees rushed Pineda this spring; could it also be that Pineda tried to make up for lost time, too?

    In any event, it was good to see him throwing yesterday.

  209. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Villa Nova-Ya,

    “Grandy had a bad day, that didn’t help.” Yeah, I don’t think anyone was counting on him for much against Shields. He’s got horrid numbers against Shields, not that Big Game was in there for long.

    “But there’s something about him that just irks me and I don’t know if his type of managing could translate to a veteran team like the Yankees.”

    I totally agree. Maddon is good at what he does with young and scrappy teams, but he’d just get in the way of our line up. You don’t have to do much with our guys, as opposed to squeezing everything you can out of the Rays line up.

    I’ve seen so many complaints on here that Girardi over manages, and then under manages or is a poor game manager. Figure that one out. No one’s perfect..

  210. blake April 7th, 2012 at 7:37 am

    One of the best things I saw yesterday was Alex and his ability to cover the inside part of the plate……that’s what he couldn’t do last year……Shields was trying to pound him inside with 2 seamers and Alex was able to get the barrel to them in the correct plane to keep the ball fair…….that’s a terrific sign for him…..when he is getting to those pitches he’s a really tough out…..boy I hope he can stay healthy.

    I didn’t like the move in the first…..but bottom line if CC makes his pitches then Pena Ks and the Yanks prohabbly win the ballgame…….he just wasn’t sharp early……it happens…..Sabathia and Rivera are the least of my worries…

  211. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    VN-

    I’m actually sorta surprised that Pineda is throwing already.

    It would be nice to know what the plan for him is.

    I don’t believe there has been an official statement about it.

    Inquiring minds would like to know.

  212. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Blake,

    Yeah, those are the big takeaways. Healthy Alex, CC seems to start slow, and Rivera’s going to be great on most days.

  213. Gary April 7th, 2012 at 7:40 am

    Morning, I watched the last 3 innings at dinner last night. It’s only game 1 so we have 161 more to go. Looked to me like Mariano was leaving the ball up in the strikezone on the fat part of the plate, he will bounce back from that. I did get there just in time to see my least favorite player Mr Nick take the big wiff. Shades of last year. Another guy and I were somewhat amazed at the Maddon bunt calls, but I guess thinking about it he was showing alot of respect for the Yankee bullpen and just trying to get that run. Just glad the season has started.

  214. blake April 7th, 2012 at 7:41 am

    If Mo converts the save like he does most every time……then everyone would be talking about how great an opening game it was……

  215. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 7:42 am

    An insurance run or two would have been nice.

    ;)

  216. Gary April 7th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    blake April 7th, 2012 at 7:37 am

    One of the best things I saw yesterday was Alex and his ability to cover the inside part of the plate

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    I always thought he made a good play on the line drive to end the inning and put out that threat. Sometimes you don’t have to make the great plays, just make the plays you are supposed to.

  217. Gary April 7th, 2012 at 7:44 am

    blake April 7th, 2012 at 7:41 am

    If Mo converts the save like he does most every time……then everyone would be talking about how great an opening game it was……

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    True, but the Yanks had chances in the last three or four innings and didn’t get another run. That kind of annoyed me, there had good chances to score and they didn’t.

  218. blake April 7th, 2012 at 7:45 am

    MTU,

    Yea…..when you play the Rays one of the keys has to be to take advantage of their bullpen….because its not very good…..the Yanks didn’t do that and while the scored 6 runs….thy really probably should have tacked on and put the game out of reach…….if you can get their starters out you have to score on their pen.

  219. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 7:45 am

    We can still win the series.

    :)

  220. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 7:49 am

    mtu-

    people get hurt or sick when they are in over their heads. pineda was being rushed as usual with yankee prospects. his sore shoulder was a good cover for someone emotionally upset enough to tear up when questioned about a bad outing in spring training.

    he may not have had much of an injury and simply did too much too soon and got some inflammation.

    pineda is raw , yet the yankees continue to hope they can just plug him into the rotation. if they keep up with this intent, they will turn the kid into someone who has extremes. really good because he is really talented, but really bad because he is unprepared for the workload being put on him.

    the yankees are a different animal form all other teams. players have to learn how to be a yankee. pineda is 23. i laugh at what the yankees are doing with him because they are just so incompetent with young pitchers.

    for pineda himself, i hope he takes charge of his own career and gets good guidance . someone like boras who will overrule cashman on how pineda will be developed.

    who is pineda’s agent by the way ?he needs to get involved whoever he is. someone needs to look out for the kid.

  221. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 7:49 am

    Blake-

    They scored 6 runs and on most days with our staff that should be an easy victory.

    That said it doesn’t hurt to go for the throat and take advantage of opportunities to pad your lead.

    Luckily for us there are 161 more opportunites to get it right in all respects.

    :)

  222. Poetkiosk April 7th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    I was pretty encouraged by the game. You have to expect CC to b a bit rusty, same with Mo. But Arod was hitting the ball well, and Ibanez was a pleasant surprise.

  223. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 7:53 am

    as for the game yesterday, it aways sucks when mariano has those kinds of games.

    what more is there to say?

    i didn’t see the early part of the game when CC gave up the grand slam, but with two outs in the first inning loading the bases with two outs with a wild pitcher on the mound is an odd move.

    this would have been lost,however, in the shuffle had mariano been mariano.

    onward to game two.

  224. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 7:54 am

    Randy-

    Perhaps one of the reporters will touch on the subject of what the plan for Pineda going forward is.

    It would be nice to hear about it.

    Whatever they do I sure hope the do not rush him back and he gets the oportunity to get his velo back to where it should be, and some extra time to perfect that CU.

    When he returns I’d like to see him looking crisp and confident.

  225. Villa Nova-Ya April 7th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    RadioKev -

    Ah, I wasn’t aware of Granderson’s numbers against Shields. His first inning non-hit was his best shot of the day, and without yet another Maddon shift, there’s two on and no one out. Oh, well. That’s baseball. And then when you’re facing a different pitcher each time up, what with all the pitching changes Maddon made yesterday, it’s tough for hitters to get in a grove (as long as those pitchers are throwing well, which they were – well enough anyway).

    Totally agree with your last paragraph. :)

  226. Poetkiosk April 7th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    I find it funny however how various media outlets are trying so hard to make this one loss a big deal by stretching back to last season. In NY the headline was something like game 1 ends a lot like game 162 – making the case basically that the Rays have this mojo going on that spans two seasons.

  227. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 7:58 am

    It’s 20/20 hindsight of course but the pitch selection to Pena was not a good one IMO.

    He hits the FB extremely well and he is way more vulnerable to offspeed stuff.

    I was surprised they challenged him.

    In the end, if CC locates the pitch that probably doesn’t happen.

    Like m likes to say, “Etch-a-Sketch”.

    :)

  228. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Interesting matchup today.

    Price vs. Kuroda

    Hope Hiroki is feelin’ his inner Samurai.

    :)

  229. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    “Perhaps one of the reporters will touch on the subject of what the plan for Pineda going forward is.”

    mtu-

    their plan is to just run him through their regular program just like they do with all their veteran starters.

    the yankees aren”t much for looking at a guy and coming up with an individual plan. they like one size fits all.

    it doesn’t surprise me at all that they trade for this guy and don’t have anyone go meet with him and make sure he’s in a program to be in shape when he showed up for spring training.

    the pre spring training time for pitchers and players is a hoot sometimes if you have a sense of humor. i can’t tell you how many chain link fences i’ve climbed over with a mlb pitcher just trying to get onto a locked baseball field in florida the two months before reporting to spring training.

    if a high school coach lets pro players use his field, you might see twenty players out there from different teams at all different pro levels. pre spring training is a crap shoot where it’s up to an individual to figure out something to get in shape. he’s on his own.

    the yankees left pineda to do his thing on his own. does that sound smart to you?

    the yankees do some really dumb things and not getting pineda prepared for spring training was one of them.

  230. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    How do you say “stopper” in Japanese ?

    It isn’t “Bonzai” is it ?

    :)

  231. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 8:17 am

    I recall that last blown save at The Trop.

    Somebody & Crawford went back-to-back off of him.

    I wish someone would do the research in how often intentional walks actually achieve the desired result.
    A lot of bizarre managing going on yesterday. I prefer a more “just let em play” style but I fear that’s slowly disappearing. Now managers like to “match wits”

    It’s like give me a break guys. It’s a baseball game.

  232. yanks61 April 7th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    I’m amazed no one has mentioned this; another massive fail by Cashman!

    He could have kept Colon for a pittance instead of signing that washed up bum CC to a huge new contract. It’s obvious that Yankee management knows nothing about pitching.

  233. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Maybe I’m delusional but I really like our front three in comparison to the Rays. Matt Moore’s got all that upside, so that still tips the rotation balance in their favor. Still I’d take CC over Shields, Hughes over Hellickson, and while Price is better than Kuroda, Kuroda’s no slouch.

  234. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:21 am

    Randy-

    I’m a big believer in programs like API for Pitchers because they do all of thinking for them.

    Their programs appear to be well designed.

    All the guy has do is come in follow along do the work and voila they are ready.

    Unfortunately, guys cannot be forced to do these things in the OS.

    Other problem in Pineda’s case is they don’t have one in the DR.

    He’d have to come to the States and do so ahead of time.

  235. Villa Nova-Ya April 7th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Wow, Randy, could you at least throw in an “it’s my opinion,” or “I think that?” such and such?

    Maybe just once?

    I thought you said the Yankees rushed Pineda? Now you’re saying they let him run the show? Which is it? Whichever one condemns the Yankees more?

  236. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    How do you say “stopper” in Japanese ?

    It isn’t “Bonzai” is it ?
    ————-

    ;)

    I’m hoping there’s a bit of Louisiana Lefty in Kuroda. Either one will do.

  237. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Kev-

    It should be really interesting to see how Kuroda does in the AL East.

    I like what I’ve seen from him so far.

    But this division is a different animal.

    Hopefully his stuff, etc. translates well.

    We’re gonna find out.

    ;)

  238. blake April 7th, 2012 at 8:29 am

    I still think Tampa’s rotation is better….but the Yanks have closed the gap both with regards to quality and depth

  239. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    randy

    Thanks for filling us in on all your inside information from the Yankees.

    How could we be so foolish to think it was anything else but what you are spewing.

  240. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 8:31 am

    blake April 7th, 2012 at 8:29 am
    I still think Tampa’s rotation is better….but the Yanks have closed the gap both with regards to quality and depth
    ————–

    Yeah. We’ll see if Matt Moore blows through the AL East. It sure looks like he could.

  241. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    Seeing Pineda throw in his warm-up suit yesterday he appeared more fit than he does in a uni.

    I tell you the first thing I’d do with Pineda is bring him to the clubhouse guy and get him a uniform that fits. Then I straighten out that cap on his head. Tell him he’s a Yankee now and he’s gonna look like one.

    You wanna wear your hat slanted and have your your uni hanging off of you? Win 20 games and then you look like CC and Felix all you want.

    Until then you’re just another slob. :wink:

  242. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Blake-

    Not too shabby to have guys like Davis and McGhee comin’ out of your pen.

    Of course, Phelps and co. are no slouches either.

    IMO we will have the best pen in baseball, and a very competitive starting staff. One of the best.

    Our depth is pretty much unrivaled.

  243. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Imagine having the 2P’s as your back-ups.

    Wowza.

    :)

  244. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Interesting how people want Madden instead of Girardi because he thinks outside the box.

    Then when Girardi makes a move like Madden would do by putting in the extra infielder I don’t see people praising Joe for that.

    Of course that wouldn’t fit the agenda that some have against Joe.

  245. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Then when Girardi makes a move like Madden would do by putting in the extra infielder I don’t see people praising Joe for that.

    Of course that wouldn’t fit the agenda that some have against Joe.

    ————————

    That five man infield was an interesting call – I don’t think I’ve seen that before.

    I think it’s something about people or Americans that make us more vocal about negative experiences than positive experiences, and you should totally forget about average experiences. It’s either the worst, or the best, and you’ll usually hear about the worst first.

  246. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    maine-

    Good morning. Hope your feeling better these days.

    Can’t argue with the results but IMO Girardi is a bit too “mechanistic” in his approach.

    A little less book and a bit more gut would work for me.

    I freely admit my bias towards more of an old school approach though.

  247. blake April 7th, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Anybody have a link to analysis of the riverdogs game…..from the box score sounds like Campos was outstanding…..6 innings, 0 runs, 1 hit…….65 pitches!

    Mason had two doubles and has started the season raking……Sanchez was 2-3 also

  248. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    maine-

    Good morning. Hope your feeling better these days.

    Can’t argue with the results but IMO Girardi is a bit too “mechanistic” in his approach.

    A little less book and a bit more gut would work for me.

    I freely admit my bias towards more of an old school approach though.

    ———————————————————————————

    I could be wrong, but it seems at times perception and reality don’t meet.

    For all the moves people perceive as wrong, they would also make wrong decision in some other area.

  249. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Then when Girardi makes a move like Madden would do by putting in the extra infielder I don’t see people praising Joe for that.

    ———————–

    That’s because when you intentionally walk a career .230 hitter to load the bases with 2 outs in the1st inning, you have to sit in the stupid corner for a minimum of 48 hours.

  250. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Maine-

    That’s bit too deep for me. Could you rephrase that in English this time ?

    :)

  251. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 7th, 2012 at 8:50 am

    I didn’t watch any of the game but did read through some of the posts.

    I’m sure sometimes posters get it right, and I’m sure sometimes they get it wrong. Of course it’s difficult to know which is which. Whatever was happening in the first inning, apparently CC agreed with the move to walk Rodriguez because the guy had had success against him – or lefties – or something like that. (And I know that you’re all going to say that CC had to say that, what else could he say. And you might be right. But then again, you might be wrong. Maybe CC meant it.)

    In any event, I once read a quote from St. Joe that stayed with me. Maybe he picked it up from someone else. He said that the difference between a manager looking like an idiot and looking like a genius is all in whether or not the move works out. Sometimes it will be the right move and the players don’t execute; sometimes it will be the wrong move and the players don’t execute; sometimes it will be the right move and the players execute; and sometimes it will be the wrong move, and the players execute anyway.

    On balance, I believe that any manager who gets his team to the postseason is doing something right; and any manager who wins a world series is doing a lot right, especially if his team is in THE TOUGHEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL AND HAS TO PLAY THE UNFAIR, UNBALANCED SCHEDULE – GRRRR!!!!!

    :)

    Have a great day. Off to get some “stuff” done. Catch you all later.

  252. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    “Villa Nova-Ya April 7th, 2012 at 8:24 am
    Wow, Randy, could you at least throw in an “it’s my opinion,” or “I think that?” such and such?

    Maybe just once?”

    Villa Nova-Ya-

    it’s my F$%%ing opinion that telling an pitcher to watch his f%^&INGing hand from the barbs on top of the fj&%ING chain link fence and not to pull anything or break his fu%ING ankle when he lands on the other side that that it’s a stupid f%&c8ing way to do pre- spring training for pitchers.

    do you have any other stupid fu$%$ing questions ?

    be glad to help if i can :)

  253. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Trisha-

    Have a great day and enjoy Fla.

    If people didn’t 2nd guess things they’d have nothin’ to complain about.

    Then what ?

    :)

  254. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    trisha-

    Didn’t you know that everyone around here is a self-trained Coroner or at least has slept at a Holiday Inn.

    ;)

  255. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    In any event, I once read a quote from St. Joe that stayed with me. Maybe he picked it up from someone else. He said that the difference between a manager looking like an idiot and looking like a genius is all in whether or not the move works out. Sometimes it will be the right move and the players don’t execute; sometimes it will be the wrong move and the players don’t execute

    ————————————————

    Maybe so but if Joe let CC pitch to Sean Rodriguez and he got a 2-run hit no one would be saying “oh he should have walked him”

    Girardi always says how he doesn’t get caught up in match-ups. I’m not sure he realizes how foist he looks saying that because he appears to be a slave to them.

  256. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    “How could we be so foolish to think it was anything else but what you are spewing.”

    maine yankee-

    when you start predicting problems with pitchers ahead of time get back to me :)

  257. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Foist?

    Feel fee to insert your own word there. :lol:

  258. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    New thread —->

  259. pat April 7th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Pineda is now part of the Pending P’s- Pettitte and Pineda.

    I would hope he’s following Andy around learning everything he can about pitching and how to get ready for a season.

  260. muwarriorsfan April 7th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    “You have to expect CC to b a bit rusty”

    You do?

    Was Verlander rusty? Or Weaver? Or Lester? Or Halladay?

    CC is just not that good.

  261. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    mtu-

    i’ve come to the conclusion that people don’t like bad news ahead of time about things they are hoping will work out well .

    as far as losing a baseball game to a team like the rays, the yankees are going to lose about half of them to them, so one game isn’t something to get upset about . losses for the yankees are like strike outs were too mantle , they’re going to happen on the way to great things.

    i’m curious how kuroda does. he seems to have that matsui like professionalism that fits well with the yankees

  262. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:07 am

    randy

    I know it’s foolish for me to question you because all it does is prove you are smarter than a 5th grader. :D :

  263. DONNYBROOK April 7th, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Game shoulda been put outta reach vs Shields. You can talk strategy late in this game all ya want, but the Yanks shoulda salted it away in the 1st 5 innings. LOB early, tell the tale. I agree with Girardi walking the bases full. BUT, If I go to a 5 man infield, that 5th infielder is definitely NOT Nunez. Defense is Not Nunez’s strong suit, especially throws.
    Gonna need to watch the Jeet vs Gardner offensive stats. I say it’s time to plug Gardner into the leadoff role, and give him a solid month\fulltime to show what he can do.


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