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Sabathia: “I can take something from that”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 07, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

When Mariano Rivera blows a save, everything else becomes secondary. It’s the one thing we’ll remember about yesterday’s season opener.

But a lot happened before the walk-off, and CC Sabathia’s first six innings were worth remembering as well. The Yankees ace wasn’t particularly sharp in spring training, and his first few innings of the regular season looked alarmingly similar.

“Fastball command, yeah,” Sabathia said. “But it got better later, so I can take something from that and work in the bullpen and be ready to go four days from now.”

As he always does, Sabathia seemed to do enough yesterday to leave the Yankees feeling perfectly confident in their No. 1 starter. Yes, he gave up five runs in six innings, but four of those came on a 3-2 mistake that Carlos Pena walloped for a grand slam. The other run came on a solo homer. Sabathia otherwise made some big pitches when he had to, and he finished pretty strong.

“It seemed like it was tough for us to get in a rhythm,” Russell Martin said. “It didn’t seem like we had good flow going into the game, but a couple times through the lineup, it looked like he was getting better. He just wasn’t as sharp as he normally is. Get those early jitters out of the game and he’ll be fine.”

Ultimately, history speaks for itself. The Yankees aren’t going to stop giving Rivera the ball because he blew a save on Opening Day, and they’re not going to stop using Sabathia every fifth day because his ERA happens to be 7.50 at the moment. With 161 games to play, a one-game sample doesn’t tell much. Trust the great players to be great, even when they’re only so-so for a day.

“At times (Sabathia) had a fastball that cut (and) a changeup that cut,” Joe Girardi said. “He just wasn’t able to control the down and away, and then he seemed to get it as time went on. I hope that bodes well for his next start.”

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90 Responses to “Sabathia: “I can take something from that””

  1. LGY April 7th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    As he always does, Sabathia seemed to do enough yesterday to leave the Yankees feeling perfectly confident in their No. 1 starter. Yes, he gave up five runs in six innings, but four of those came on a 3-2 mistake that Carlos Pena walloped for a grand slam. The other run came on a solo homer. Sabathia otherwise made some big pitches when he had to, and he finished pretty strong

    ———–

    It’s interesting how the offense behind a pitcher can do so much to change perception of their outing.

    CC was terrible yesterday. He gave the Yankees very little chance to win the game yet the overriding complaint from fans today is that the offense did not do enough.

  2. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    mtu-

    i’ve come to the conclusion that people don’t like bad news ahead of time about things they are hoping will work out well :)

    as far as losing a baseball game to a team like the rays, the yankees are going to lose about half of them to them, so one game isn’t something to get upset about . losses for the yankees are like strike outs were too mantle , they’re going to happen on the way to great things.

    i’m curious how kuroda does. he seems to have that matsui like professionalism that fits well with the yankees

  3. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    repost

    randy

    I know it’s foolish for me to question you because all it does is prove you are smarter than a 5th grader. :D :

  4. yankee21 April 7th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Two things NYY does not have to worry about, CC and MO. From time to time these guys will stink but more often than not, they will be perform big time. 1 game out of 162, go get em.

    I do have concerns over the Yankees offense though. I’m sure I wouldn’t be invited to Cashman’s inner circle because apparently in his world and in Girardi’s, pitching is the key to kingdom and offense is secondary.

    What was NY’s record in extra inning and 1 run ball games last year??

    I’m sure lack of hitting had nothing to do with their close and late results…

  5. yankee21 April 7th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    I think Kuroda will be a solid contributor this year. I look for 16 wins and an ERA in the neighborhood of 3.8.

  6. muwarriorsfan April 7th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    “Trust the great players to be great,”

    What is “great” about Sabathia?

    Sure isn’t his postseason performance. Or the way he pitches against the Yanks main rival.

    Eating innings makes you great?

    CC Sabathia is the most overrated pitcher in baseball.

  7. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Randy-

    I think most people don’t like bad news period. Never mind in advance.

    Like when I went to the Taxman yesterday. It would have sucked just as much either way.

    I’m not much into post-mortem analysis of games ( al ittle bit perhaps) because to me what’s done is done.

    All that remains is to learn from your mistakes (if any) and move on.

    It’s a long frickin’ season. The twists and turns, ups and downs sometimes seem endless.

    As far as Kuroda goes. I had never followed him before he came over. Did not know anything more about him than his name.

    I like what I see so far. He has a nice arsenal with good mound presence. Doesn’t strike me as your typical Japanese pitcher.

    The AL East is a different animal than he is used to so we can only hope that everything he brings translates well.

    We’ll see soon enough.

    :)

  8. DONNYBROOK April 7th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    CC’s “mistake” was NOT the homer pitch. It was immediately falling behind Pena, and giving Pena the mental edge he needed with the bases jammed. Pena is dog meat vs lefties, but you immediately go 2-0 to the guy with the bases loaded, and the tables are turned. Most the time, it’s Not THE pitch that is hit for a Homer that tells the story. It’s the sequence leading up to the clout.

  9. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 9:18 am

    good thing it was sabathia having a bad outing instead of pineda.
    people would really be freaking out.

    sabathia knows how to turn this into a positive for him.
    for pineda , it would have been a calamity with reporters coming at pineda like sharks with chum in the water.

    i’d like the yankees to slow things down for pineda and have him digest what this new york yankee thing is before he has to be put in the position of having to defend himself after the inevitable bad game like what sabathia had.

    of course he could come back and be lights out and that would keep the negativity at a minimum :)

  10. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    “of course he could come back and be lights out and that would keep the negativity at a minimum”

    That would work.

    ;)

  11. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:24 am

    What the Yankees should do with Pineda is send him to AAA, give him a pair of sunglasses and keep him there untill his contract runs out.

    Bright light problem solved.

  12. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    MY-

    That only works with Japanese Pitchers.

    :)

  13. yankee21 April 7th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    I think Pineda’s adjustment timeline will depend on how well Hughes, Nova and Garcia are doing and how Pettitte is progressing to get ready.

    NY will fast-track Pineda if these guys are struggling or if Pettitte is not progressing. I have zero faith in NY doing the right thing by design with their handling of Pineda and in fact any young developing pitcher. Their plan is more often circumstance-based or one of reaction.

  14. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Heritage Field (former site of Yankee Stadium) is officially opening today.

  15. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    MTU

    My wife wants to know what breed your dogs are?

  16. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    21-

    Assuming what you say is true that better change.

    ;)

  17. muwarriorsfan April 7th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    If anyone watched Kuroda on Extra Innings last year, they would see he’ll give you 6 innings or so of 3-4 run ball. But he’s not going to dominate the opposition.

  18. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    MY-

    Is that a trick question ?

    They are Shih Tzu’s, or as GB calls them “Western dust mops”.

    :)

  19. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    “What the Yankees should do with Pineda is send him to AAA, give him a pair of sunglasses and keep him there untill his contract runs out.”

    maine yankee-

    i thought you liked brian.

    he hates it when people bring up igawa.

    with friends like you, who needs enemies :)

  20. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:33 am

    MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:29 am
    MY-

    Is that a trick question ?

    They are Shih Tzu’s, or as GB calls them “Western dust mops”.

    —————————————————————-

    For once no trick question.

    Mrs Maine saw a West Highland Terrier and really liked it so she wondered if that’s what you had.

    I shoveled alot of what your dogs sound like. :lol:

  21. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:33 am

    Randy-

    Igawa is laughing all the way to the bank.

    Did you know that after he left the Yankees he got the biggest contact in History ?

    From Ray-Ban.

    :)

  22. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:34 am

    randy

    Who said I was a friend? :evil:

  23. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Maine-

    Just keep on coming here and you can keep doing it.

    Since you seem to like it so much.

    :)

  24. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Today is another hike day. Got to start getting ready soon.

    My 3rd rehab start.

    Gonna raise the velo and the intensity a notch or 2.

    I’m a little behind the others this Spring but I’ll get there.

    :)

  25. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:42 am

    randy

    If you want to take your trombone player to a game Trenton will be in Portland Apr. 30 and May 1,2 and 3.

    Of course he probably should leave the trombone at home.

    Maybe you could find someone to go with you to teach him about the game too. :D :

  26. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 9:43 am

    ” I have zero faith in NY doing the right thing by design with their handling of Pineda and in fact any young developing pitcher. Their plan is more often circumstance-based or one of reaction.”

    that’s kind of my position.

    cashman is a scrambler and quite a good one.

    with veterans like sabathia, who already knew his game before he ever got to the yankees, cashman can’t screw up too much because sabathia is going to do his own thing.

    with young pitchers the yankees are establishing habits and ways to pitch. this is where cashman is dumber than maine yankee’s fifth grader . he has to muck it up, beat the crap out of the guy, and then fix him with an array of experts.

    eventually cashman gets it right. look at hughes and joba. perfect example’s of trial and error.
    cashman is just much better at reacting to a bad situation than preventing the situation from happening in the first place.

    it’s my cashman modus operandy theory :)

  27. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    Today is another hike day. Got to start getting ready soon.

    My 3rd rehab start.

    Gonna raise the velo and the intensity a notch or 2.

    I’m a little behind the others this Spring but I’ll get there.

    ————————————————————————

    Just go train with Andy until you get caught up.

  28. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Just curious.

    Is it a “Maine” thing to leave old rusty cars in your front yard and to irritate people, or is that just another LoHud fallacy due to the small sample size ?

    By the way, what ever happened to those Maine Sux fans who used to post here ?

    I think one them was named Brian and the other Ray.

  29. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    randy

    Are you saying I’m smarter than Cashman?

  30. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Winning with CC being awful would have been like free money.

    Kuroda will dazzle today…right??????

  31. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Maine-

    Training with AP is a death sentence for ordinary people like me.

    You have to be a super-athlete to keep up with a guy like him.

    Or be Roger Clemens.

    ;)

  32. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Just curious.

    Is it a “Maine” thing to leave old rusty cars in your front yard and to irritate people, or is that just another LoHud fallacy due to the small sample size ?

    By the way, what ever happened to those Maine Sux fans who used to post here ?

    I think one them was named Brian and the other Ray.

    ——————————————————————-

    The rusty car thing is more the rednecks down GB7′s way. We still drive them up here.

    I think Trisha knows Brian so ask her.

    The last I heard about ray he was driving bus out of Portland. I haven’t heard from him in a long time.

    I take people to the bus station some so I should see if he’s around when I do.

  33. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Rich-

    In Japan they don’t call it that but yeah. Why not ?

    :)

  34. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    “Is it a “Maine” thing to leave old rusty cars in your front yard and to irritate people, or is that just another LoHud fallacy due to the small sample size ?”

    if you see a lot of old cars of the same make, one is to drive and the other three are for parts.

    although at any one time , one of the spare parts ones can take over the top spot depending the severity of the repair.

  35. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Maine-

    For Sux fans they were extremely knowledgeable and polite.

    A rarity.

    ;)

  36. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Gangsta, 1940s style:

    Heyman: Florida is 1 giant speed trap. 75 crawling with coppers

  37. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    MTU

    Speaking of rusty cars, you should see the beaters they use on the islands.

    They leave a good car on the mainland.

  38. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    I thought they were Maine lawn ornaments.

    Shows ya’ what I know.

  39. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    “If you want to take your trombone player to a game Trenton will be in Portland Apr. 30 and May 1,2 and 3.”

    maine yankee-

    that’s actually a good idea.

    i’m going to be in florida but i’m having the trombone player meet the twins pitching coach next week when new britain is at portland. i’m trying to get the kid converted to liking some other team. he’s a red sox fan at this point. and we know that’s a recipe for lifelong disappointment.

  40. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    I think I’d like Maine.

    They seem to have a sensible approach to things.

    Besides that they have plenty of wilderness and the best food in the World in the form of Lobsters.

    The only thing I wouldn’t like is the cold and the long Winters.

    I’m too old for that crap now.

    I’ll just wait for the Gobal warming to improve the climate there then I’ll open a beach resort.

    :)

  41. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 10:00 am

    MTU April 7th, 2012 at 9:55 am
    I thought they were Maine lawn ornaments.

    Shows ya’ what I know.

    ————————————————————–

    My wife thinks you must have googled my place because I have 2 dead PU in my yard. :D :

  42. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 10:05 am

    MTU

    I can deal with the cold we have here better than the heat you have out there.

  43. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Maine-

    Unless they are the only ones in all of Maine that’s pretty hard to do.

    :)

  44. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    “Besides that they have plenty of wilderness and the best food in the World in the form of Lobsters.”

    mtu-

    i love the steamers up here too.

    really good, way better than anywhere else. it’s the cold ocean water that turns you blue if you swim in it.

    of course there’s nothing stopping someone from having a lobster and steamers feast :)

  45. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    “In Japan they don’t call it that but yeah.”

    dazzle-san

  46. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    MTU

    It’s not just lobster. Clams, scollops, haddock etc. are all good.

    The cool climate is also good for apples and blueberries.

    If you can get wild Maine blueberries they are really sweet.

    As someone that likes the outdoors as much as you do, you would like to be here in the summer.

  47. Against All Odds April 7th, 2012 at 10:14 am

    CC is going to be one of those guys that ppl will miss when he no longer pitches for the team. That’s when you’ll hear remember how reliable CC was…taking the ball every five days.

  48. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 10:14 am

    MTU

    They seem to have a sensible approach to things.

    ——————————————————————–

    randy has lived away for to long, that’s why he doesn’t fit that mold. :lol:

  49. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    randy

    of course there’s nothing stopping someone from having a lobster and steamers feast

    ——————————————————————————

    You have to add some corn on the cob to make it complete.

  50. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 10:20 am

    AAO

    You really don’t think that people appreciate CC? He is the most important starter they have had since Mussina. Without that signing, this team may not have made the playoffs over the last few years because every other starter would have been asked to do more and they probably weren’t up to it.

    Of course, the money spent on him could have gotten another big pitcher, but we don’t know who.

  51. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Holy crap.

    You guys are makin’ me hungry.

    Please stop.

    I would love to see Maine in the Summer. Absolutely.

    We escape to the nearby Mountains when Summer comes. It’s a welcome relief.

    Now if you lived in Phoenix or Vegas you have more trouble with that.

    :)

  52. BD (Boston Dave) April 7th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    “it would have been a calamity with reporters coming at pineda like sharks with chum in the water”

    —–

    I get that they’re in the “entertainment” business and not the “news” business anymore but I don’t have to like it.

    If the news is slow, they’ll even create some controversy on their own.

  53. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    Maine/Randy-

    By the way, I have snared another victim as a 2nd LoHuddite has fallen into the trap of coming out here to visit.

    Gotta run soon.

    :)

  54. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 10:35 am

    MTU

    Now if you lived in Phoenix or Vegas you have more trouble with that.

    ——————————————————————————-

    I’ve been to both in august. Not fit to live in that heat.

    I’d like to have you come and show you around.

  55. blake April 7th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Where is JAP and YF with their Betances reports? I think he pitched ok….through a lot of strikes which was good to see…..hopefully they’ll let him start to go deeper soon…..

  56. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Maine-

    Are you sure about that ?

    Seriously, thank you for the offer. Perhaps I will be able to take you up on it sometime.

    Likewise, if you and Mrs. Maine ever want to brave the scorching heat of Utah you would be most welcome out here.

    And it would be my pleasure to show you around.

    Have a great day.

    Catch ya’ later.

    :)

  57. MTU April 7th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Blake-

    Campos practically No-No’ed in his first start.

    Have a good day Amigo.

    :)

  58. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    A good article on Campos.

    http://www.milb.com/news/artic.....=news_milb

  59. randy l. April 7th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    “I get that they’re in the “entertainment” business and not the “news” business anymore but I don’t have to like it.

    If the news is slow, they’ll even create some controversy on their own.”

    yeah , it ain’t right, but they’re going to do it so he’s gotta be ready.

  60. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Campos may well be closer material. ;)

  61. MaineYankee April 7th, 2012 at 10:51 am

    If the news is slow, they’ll even create some controversy on their own

    ————————————————————————-

    I thought that’s what this place is for.

  62. Against All Odds April 7th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    You really don’t think that people appreciate CC? He is the most important starter they have had since Mussina. Without that signing, this team may not have made the playoffs over the last few years because every other starter would have been asked to do more and they probably weren’t up to it

    —————-

    I think ppl appreciate what he has done for the team but it always feels like it’s not enough for some folks. Sometimes it feels like his consistency gets taken for granted.

  63. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Look, Randy escaped the asylum again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....._embedded#!

  64. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 10:48 am
    Campos may well be closer material.
    ———–

    Let’s hope for better than that.

    And the article got his age wrong.

  65. yankee21 April 7th, 2012 at 10:58 am

    In any single game, Halladay, Verlander, Lincecum, Kershaw or some other may outshine CC. However, over the course of a LT contract and being able to shoulder all the pressure and crap which comes with being NY’s #1 guy,, there is nobody I’d rather have than CC.

    He may not be perfect, but I’ll take him.

  66. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Just found this article that tries to suggest that pitchers with a better mix of pitches can out perform their peripherals. An interesting thought. Guess who the #2 most mixing pitcher is?

    http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/.....-with-more

  67. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Right, Campos doesn’t turn 20 until the end of July.

  68. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Pineda didn’t ask to be here.

    For all we know he could hate everything about the Yankees. Wait till he gets to New York and sees himself on the front page of the tabloid papers.

    You what the NY Daily News ran on their front page today? ” MO BLOW! “

  69. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 11:03 am

    yankee21 April 7th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    In any single game, Halladay, Verlander, Lincecum, Kershaw or some other may outshine CC. However, over the course of a LT contract and being able to shoulder all the pressure and crap which comes with being NY’s #1 guy,, there is nobody I’d rather have than CC.

    He may not be perfect, but I’ll take him.
    ————-

    CC pitched the best baseball of his AL career last year. Amazing how the mainstream sports media can over analyze everything and totally miss out on this fact. He did save his best baseball for the very end – but it was his best.

  70. Bronx Jeers April 7th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    ” PAIN-EDA ! “

  71. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 11:09 am

    I meant to say, CC DIDN’T save his best baseball for the very end – but it was still his best year.

  72. jacksquat April 7th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    No one is worried about CC or Rivera (except trolls). That’s not what is going to be taken from today.

    The big blunder was Girardi’s boneheaded move in the first inning. Hopefully he takes something away from that.

  73. UnKnown April 7th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    Tonight’s game can’t come soon enough.

  74. m April 7th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Chad,

    Just because somebody said this was a Cashman fail for not keeping Colon, doesn’t mean you humor them by photoshopping CC’s head to Colon’s body. :P

    MTU,

    I think I got the etch-a-sketch thing from swisher.

    And there’s bonsai and banzai. Two completely different things!

    As for not trusting this staff to rehab Pineda. If they have as much success as they did with “Brittle Boy” Hughes, then they’ll be 2-for-2. 3-for-3 if you ignore TJS and mangled ankle syndrome.

  75. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    “Let’s hope for better than that.”

    It wasn’t clear that a ;) denotes saracasm?

  76. Bo knows April 7th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Most the time, it’s Not THE pitch that is hit for a Homer that tells the story. It’s the sequence leading up to the clout.

    —————————–
    All the angst and anger against Girardi. Oy

    Did anybody mention options by CC and Martin:

    - CC throws Pena a breaking ball

    - Simply walk him, it’s one flippin run

    CC is seasoned professional. The crafty Cuban used to do it all the time. You reset the table and start over.

  77. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Or sarcasm, if he could actually type.

  78. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 11:36 am
    “Let’s hope for better than that.”

    It wasn’t clear that a denotes saracasm?
    ————

    I suppose not for this smarty. I’d enter an embarrassed face, but clearly I’m not fluent in smileys ;)

  79. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Walk Pena with the bases loaded in the first inning? That’s would seem to be against what most #1 starters are about.

  80. m April 7th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Bo,

    I agree. When you score 6-runs off of Shields and holds by So-Ro and still lose, your pitching just wasn’t good enough that day.

    Had we held on, my comment was going to be a good team win. In light of the fact we lost, we should just chalk it up to a bad team loss without pointing fingers. CC and Mo could have pitched better, yes. Girardi could have managed better, yes. Even one more single or productive out would have won the game. But you win as a team, lose as a team.

  81. hardwired7 April 7th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    “Intentional walk to load the bases in the first inning? Why didn’t I think of that?” – Bobby V.

  82. RadioKev April 7th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Can we just agree the overall team lost yesterday? Everyone could have done a little more – although it wasn’t a particularly bad day overall.

  83. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Anyway, they’ll win today.

  84. Nick in SF April 7th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Foist of all, don’t panic.

  85. Bo knows April 7th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Walk Pena with the bases loaded in the first inning? That’s would seem to be against what most #1 starters are about.

    —————
    Duh, I’m a #1 jock and I challenge hitters

    As opposed to thought process “Cr*p, it’s 3 and 2, the whole world and Pena know I’ll throw a FB. Pena feasts on FB. He could really make me look stupid.”

    “Throw a slider, it’ll work or it’s one run and I’ll get the next guy”.

  86. jacksquat April 7th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Bo knows April 7th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    Most the time, it’s Not THE pitch that is hit for a Homer that tells the story. It’s the sequence leading up to the clout.

    —————————–
    All the angst and anger against Girardi. Oy

    Did anybody mention options by CC and Martin:

    - CC throws Pena a breaking ball

    - Simply walk him, it’s one flippin run

    CC is seasoned professional. The crafty Cuban used to do it all the time. You reset the table and start over.

    —-

    If Joe Genius hadn’t forced him to load the bases, CC would have had that option to aim for the edge of the plate, walk if necessary to Sean Rodriguez, if necessary. And even if SR went deep, which is much less likely, it’s 3 runs, not 4. Just a bad odds decision.

  87. Eroc April 7th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Pena was a .111 hitter vs. CC and sucks against lefties. The manager got his ace the favorable matchup – it was poor pitching by CC.

  88. Bo knows April 7th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    If Joe Genius hadn’t forced him to load the bases, CC would have had that option to aim for the edge of the plate, walk if necessary to Sean Rodriguez, if necessary. And even if SR went deep, which is much less likely, it’s 3 runs, not 4. Just a bad odds decision.

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    You know you and others of your ilk have spouted that crap, ad nauseum.

    “Joe forced CC to load the bases. What did he do, bend him over. CC is some rook that will soil his undies? Sounds silly, doesn’t it?

    Girardi went out and talked to him. They discussed what CC wanted to do.

    Hey plan A didn’t work, you go to plan B. You don’t want to give up a GS, you give it a shot and move on.

    As the story goes “Sack up CC and do the hard choice”. CC closed his eyes, threw a FB and went “Oh chit”

  89. charlestonchew April 7th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    I think Kuroda will be to us much like the older Mussina — consistent and serviceable with the ability to hurl a gem. Can also leave balls up and have a bad outing — strike thrower and lots of different pitches to look for.

  90. charlestonchew April 7th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    If he would have just throw some changeups and sliders and curveballs to Rodriguez he would have been confused. CC was using the fastball too much early one and they were jumping him, especially with bad control.

    Pena knew exactly what CC was going to do and Martin should never have let him throw that pitch. Do we think Pena was going to sit back and wait for that slider or a curveball? No way. He’s just sitting in there, confused, watching it go by. The point is to never get beat with a ball over the plate. If you attack the game that way, you may walk a few guys, but with poor control…. I’m not going to the fastball there. Anything else, if you can even get it in the strikezone, is going to have Pena off balance. Odds are much better with an off balance hitter.


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