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Familiar faces in new places

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 12, 2012 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ken Rosenthal reported today that Johnny Damon was moving toward a deal with the Indians. It seems that he would move into their left field picture, possibly as a platoon partner with another former Yankees outfielder, Shelley Duncan. Let’s take a look at some of last year’s Yankees who are playing a role elsewhere this season.

Jesus Montero
Mariners
You might vaguely remember that, in mid-January, the Yankees traded away a young catcher with 18-games of big league experience to get a starting pitcher who has been stuck on the disabled list since the end of spring training. Montero was expected to the be Yankees regular designated hitter, and that’s been his role with the Mariners. Montero has played six games with Seattle and caught one of them. He’s hitting .286 but has yet to get an extra-base hit or draw a walk. He’s most recently dropped from fifth to sixth in the Mariners batting order.

A.J. Burnett
Pirates
After two years or erratic disappointment, Burnett was traded to Pittsburgh just before the start of spring training, and he quickly went on the disabled list when he fouled a ball off his face during bunting drills. Burnett has since made two rehab starts in the low minors, and the results have been predictably inconsistent. His first start lasted 4.2 innings with one run and five strikeouts. His second start — which came on Wednesday — lasted just 1.2 innings, with Burnett allowing eight runs (five earned) against Florida State League hitters.

Hector Noesi
Mariners
The unheralded part of the Montero/Pineda trade — at least Jose Campos got some prospect buzz — Noesi moved into the Mariners rotation and will make his second start on Saturday against the Athletics. After a good spring training, Noesi’s regular-season debut was ugly, lasting just three innings during which he allowed seven runs on six hits and three walks. Noesi gave up two home runs, but might fare better in spacious Safeco Field.

Francisco Cervelli
Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
Optioned to Triple-A on the last day of spring training, Cervelli became Scranton’s everyday catcher. He was also the team’s last regular to get a hit. Cervelli started the season 0-for-14 before finally getting a base hit in his final at-bat of Monday’s game. He was promptly thrown out trying to stretch the single into a double. Cervelli got his second hit of the season last night and is now hitting .111 through five games.

Bartolo Colon
Athletics
Colon turned last year’s comeback with the Yankees into a one-year, $2-million deal with Oakland, and he delivered a masterful debut with the A’s. In his first start of the season, Colon allowed three hits through eight innings, striking out six Mariners in the process. But when Colon faced the Mariners for a second time on Saturday, the tables turned. He lasted just 4.1 innings, allowing seven runs on 10 hits. All told, Colon is 1-1 with a 5.84 ERA. He’s struck out nine and walked one.

Luis Ayala
Orioles
A surprising part of last year’s Opening Day bullpen, Ayala stuck around all season and pitched pretty well, earning occasional late-inning appearances when the bullpen was thin. This winter he landed with Baltimore, where Ayala has thrown 3.1 scoreless innings, including two appearances against the Yankees.

Justin Maxwell
Astros
Granted, he didn’t play a single big league game with the Yankees, but he might have if not for a shoulder injury that cost him all of the second half. He also had a strong spring training before being designated for assignment and claimed by Houston. Maxwell’s first at-bat with the Astros was a pinch-hit, two-run homer on Monday. He’s one of two backup outfielders on the Houston bench.

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98 Responses to “Familiar faces in new places”

  1. Bronx Jeers April 12th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Cool. A Montero thread. This should be interesting.

  2. blake April 12th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    This blog was badly in need of a picture of Jesus Montero in a Mariners uniform.

  3. Against All Odds April 12th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Lol the Montero debate will rage on forever

  4. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Blake/Jeers-

    Looks like Chad just tossed in a grenade.

    :)

  5. Nick in SF April 12th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    “He’s most recently dropped from fifth to sixth in the Mariners batting order.”

    He was back at fifth today. Seems like John Jaso is the one to watch on that team. ;)

  6. luis April 12th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    blake April 12th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    This blog was badly in need of a picture of Jesus Montero in a Mariners uniform.

    ========================================

    And catching gear!!!! Don’t forget this little detail!

  7. Chase April 12th, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Haha

  8. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Maybe Montero should bat lower in the order, despite M’s offense

  9. luis April 12th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    MTU,

    One last thing about our little conversation on the previous thread…He is not only a tyrant, he is a traitor. We have a 75 thousand strong invading army inside our borders.

  10. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Looks like Jesus sprouted some facial hair.

  11. lounge lizard April 12th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    April 12th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
    Melky was let go because he sucked (and maybe because they didn’t like him with Cano), not because he’s not Girardi’s type of player

    _______________________________________________

    Melky’s last year with Yanks:

    .275 13HR 68RBI .752 OPS

    A big improve over his previous year and not sucky at all considering his young age. That was the problem. His numbers were good enough to earn a decent payday by the objective standards of arbitration and Cashman did not want to pay him.

    By comparison, Gardner OPS’d .762 in 2010 and .713 in 2011.

    And Cashman will never bring Melky back, so forget that.

  12. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Oh, no!!! The catching gear!!! LOL

  13. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    “This blog was badly in need of a picture of Jesus Montero in a Mariners uniform.”

    I seriously need a filter…or a new GM.

  14. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    luis-

    The guy thinks he’s Napoleon.

    Emperor for life.

    Imagine that. What a joke.

    Fortunately, fate has decided otherwise.

    ;)

  15. tomingeorgia April 12th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    luis and jmv,
    If he’s lucky, he can get his family out of there.

  16. luis April 12th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Rich in NJ April 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    “This blog was badly in need of a picture of Jesus Montero in a Mariners uniform.”

    I seriously need a filter…or a new GM.

    =============================

    This time is not my fault!! ;)

  17. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 12th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    “Anyone just see that Single by Jesus? What bat speed off a hard thrower like Adams

    He is up to .280 now…. which is a higher average than 7 of our 9 hitters”
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    It’s infuriating that Cashfool traded a legitimate superstar for a reclamation project. I swear by the whites in Obama’s eyes that this trade is going to define Cashman’s stupidity once and for all. He’s fired in two years or less!

  18. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    luis

    Too bad, you’d be easier to fire. :P

  19. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Given the post above mine, I really wish I could have another position on the trade.

  20. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 12th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Oh, now Montero is up to .286. Amazing. I’d trade Arod and Swishalicious for Montero back in the fold.

  21. luis April 12th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Rich in NJ April 12th, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Given the post above mine, I really wish I could have another position on the trade.

    +1 Even though you want to fire me ;)

  22. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 12th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Maybe Cashman was too loopy from his affairs to realize that Montero is the real deal. What a raw deal for the fan. Perhaps Cashman will trade Supernova for Nick Johnson and Javiar Vasquez??????? Let’s try Jaret Wright while we are at it! If Cashman owned a funeral parlor nobody would die.

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  24. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    I’m out. Later.

  25. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Sorry guys.

    I’m a fence-sitter on the Montero thing.

    Have been all along.

    Gonna wait for time to tell me instead of making predictions.

    My ideal scenario is for both young men to succeed in a big way.

  26. luis April 12th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Chad,

    The thing i can highlight of this very good post is that we no longer need to carry tranquilizers in order to see AJ pitch. :)

  27. blake April 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Heard interview with Damon today and boy it surd sounds like the Indians just signed him as a stopgap until Sizemore gets back…..with the chance to stick if he plays well…..doesn’t sound like they gave him any guarantees beyond that.

  28. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    Chavez, Nunie, Gardner and Jete are the only players with a higher average than Jesus. Come October, the usual suspects dead bats will litter the field with the usual broken promises. Arod is really looking bad. Just 6 more seasons with this broken down has been. At least Cashman was against signing Arod after he opted out. I give Cashman credit for that.

  29. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 12th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Heard interview with Damon today and boy it surd sounds like the Indians just signed him as a stopgap until Sizemore gets back…..with the chance to stick if he plays well…..doesn’t sound like they gave him any guarantees beyond that.
    ——————————————————————————————————-

    Amazing how being greedy for a higher salary destroys your reputation. Damon should have lowered his price big time to stay with the NYY. It his fault for sticking with Boras. To give up baseball immortality for a paycheck.

  30. pat April 12th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Damon: 1.25M base with 1.4M in incentives. Told he will be full time left fielder, full no trade and out clause after Sizemore comes back.

  31. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 12th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Sorry guys.

    I’m a fence-sitter on the Montero thing.

    Have been all along.

    Gonna wait for time to tell me instead of making predictions.

    My ideal scenario is for both young men to succeed in a big way.
    ——————————————————————————————————-

    It’s a no brainer imo. Montero is a quick learner and is the real deal. There is a much higher probability for him to rise faster and longer than Pineda. Just a no doubter. It’s like predicting that it’s going to rain in spring. It’s going to be hard to watch.

  32. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 12th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Wow that’s quite a nice deal for the Indians! Good luck Damon.

  33. CountryClub April 12th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Did Damon say it was his dream to play for the Indians?

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    nick – I’m also interested in Montero’s career. And I’m one of those who believe that he’s going to have an enormous career. I’ve always believe that.

    That said, as a Yankee fan I am not interested in having to read what he’s doing on a minute by minute basis or having it rubbed in our faces or constantly having the “see I told you” railings. And trust me, I have no one person in mind when I say this. So to say “don’t read that person’s posts” does me no good.

    I’m sad he’s gone, but he is. I don’t see any percentage in wallowing in the fact that he is or living in misery because of it. I’d rather deal with the Yankee’s season and concentrate on that as a Yankee fan. Again, I love the kid and believe he is going to be a phenom.

    That and $1.00 at McDonald’s would get me coffee – if I were a coffee drinker.

    JMO of course.

  35. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    Tom,
    He’d be wise to do so. Let’s hope for a peaceful transition

  36. Bret The Hitman April 12th, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    The Mariner’s DH is getting on base at a .259 clip.

  37. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    All indications thus far are that Montero will be a terrific hitter.

    I’m just hoping that Pineda will turn out to be a terrific Pitcher.

    That will make it hurt a little less.

    With our aging lineup and all the pitching the Yankees appear to have stockpiled I can see how some people would question the need for the trade in the first place.

    Not being privy to the internal discussions it’s hard to know all the factors that went into it.

    I’m sure it was not a simple or easy one.

    Let’s just hope it works out well in the end.

    There is really no other option at this point.

    If the trade looks bad I’d imagine their will be some serious explaining to do.

    Cashman acknowledged the risk. He will have to be accountable for it’s outcome.

  38. mick April 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Look at it this way:
    Montero was a victim of the construction of this team.
    Like it or not, you have 2 aging superstars who need rest and must DH.
    End of Story.

  39. mick April 12th, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    We will have to see how Montero reacts to the constant scrutiny he will be under.

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    mick – YES.

    MTU – I look at it differently. GMs do the best they can with the information and situations they have. After that it’s up to the players to perform. Remember that the free world was drooling over the thought of having Jose Contreras and Carl Pavano on their teams.

    Only machines that are indestructable bat 1000. Humans are subject to all kinds of stumbles in the middle. Oftentimes it is a confluence of events that cause things to go north or go south. It’s called life.

    As long as my team on balance continues to do a very credible job, then I am an appreciative and happy camper. You know as the saying goes, let he who has never messed up point the first finger. Or said a different way, be careful of pointing the finger, lest you have five pointing back at you.

    No matter how the trade ends up, it was made with the organization’s view of the team, and best information, in mind.

    It’s called turn the page and live in the present, not the past.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Great night, all.

    GO YANKEES!

    :)

  42. Bret The Hitman April 12th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    mick April 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Look at it this way:
    Montero was a victim of the construction of this team.
    Like it or not, you have 2 aging superstars who need rest and must DH.
    End of Story.

    *******

    Yes, it’s a shame he couldn’t catch.

  43. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    I think that is easier to get a bat than a pitcher in a trade, or in FA. Let’s hope for the best with Pineda and Montero

  44. Jerkface April 12th, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    I think that is easier to get a bat than a pitcher in a trade

    Not really.

  45. Triple Short of a Cycle April 12th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    The Mariner’s DH is getting on base at a .259 clip.

    —————————————————————–

    At least he’s playing

  46. luis April 12th, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    MTU,

    Your last post is very good and very sensible.

  47. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    trisha-

    Hope you are having a blast in sunny Fla.

    I understand what you are saying and agree with it to some extent.

    No one wants to make a bad decision or trade, and mistakes are generally part of the process of dealing in the trade market. No one gets it right 100 % of the time.

    In case like this though, where the stakes are so much higher I think their needs to be a greater level of accountability than the avg. because of Montero’s obvious talent.

    I hope things work out for the best for all concerned. That would be ideal.

    I have no prediction as to what the consequences of the trade working out badly would be.

    That’s above my pay grade.

  48. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Luis-

    I know you think I’m a wild and crazy guy but I have my moments.

    ;)

  49. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Why not, Face?

    What are your thoughts?

  50. luis April 12th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    MTU,

    The post after mine is even better. So kudos, my often crazy friend ;)

  51. m April 12th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Nice results on a Yankee off day. TB loses (badly). The Twins snatched a win away from the Angels. The only downside is the Sox didn’t have an opportunity to lose.

    Hope it’s a good day for Kuroda and the Yankees tomorrow. Hughes vs Wilson looks like a tough matchup.

  52. Locke April 12th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Give the monterto deal a break. Pineda will be legit in a few months – look how much better Hughes looks after his rehab. I’m sure they both will be great but in the meantime let’s watch some baseball and quit crying about the past. He was traded three months ago.

  53. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    MTU,

    I do agree with your “fence” post. Do you see? You are actually smarter than Ozzie, no doubt about it! LOL

  54. Bronx Jeers April 12th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    3-0 Rangers (of New York)

  55. Triple Short of a Cycle April 12th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    look how much better Hughes looks after his rehab

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    He couldn’t make it through 5 innings

  56. Jerkface April 12th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    What are your thoughts?

    Lots of pitchers traded. Not a lot of equivalent bats going the other way. ‘Easy to find offense’ might have been true in the steroid era. Not now.

  57. blake April 12th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    River dogs up 6-2 in the 6th. Mason is 2-3 with a SB, hit machine Dante jr is 3-3 with a double and is up to .357 for the season now. This coming off a rehabbing Tim Hudson. Culver is 0-2 and hitting .050 on the season (ouch)

  58. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    jmv-

    everybody gets lucky once in a while.

    gracias.

    But really. How can anyone know the true outcome of this trade so far in advance (except for maybe
    Randy and JAP) ?

    Be so certain.

    I see only possibilities right now. Nothing more. Maybe my vision is limited.

    :)

  59. luis April 12th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    jmv,

    Sorry to cut in: It’s a lot harder to get a position player than a pitcher:

    1) Most position players are being locked up to LT contracts that include most of their prime years.
    2) In the FA class there are usually past their prime aging players that get paid for what they did, not for what thy are going to do. In fact, most o those contracts end up being an albatross ( Giambi, Tex already, Arod will be )
    3) Pitchers are a more fragile kind of player, and position players are somewhat more safe.

    Trades like Marcum for Lawrie don’t happen very often.

    Then if you analize the Yankees situation, they traded their only short term solution for their aging lineup in exchange for a player that they have plenty of depth.

  60. Bret The Hitman April 12th, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    What kind of bat do the Yankees need to trade for in the first place and where would he even play?

  61. Bret The Hitman April 12th, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Just promote Mason Williams and Bichette Jr. to Tampa already. ;)

  62. luis April 12th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    MTU,

    You are very leveled headed in deed. For me regardless of what happens to either player going forward it was a bad trade, not because Pineda flops or Montero becomes a monster. It is bad because philosophically their decision making was flawed. To give you an analogy: If you jump from an airplane without a parachute, you are going to die. If you happen to survive it doesn’t make jumping from an airplane without the parachute a good call. If you survive it was out of sheer luck.

    In business you minimized chance. I rather have a management that is good rather than lucky.

  63. Nick in SF April 12th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    What do they have on the roster, 12 pitchers? That means they have 13 position players. They already found it easier to get position players than to get pitchers, why should that ever change?

  64. Jerkface April 12th, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    When Pineda and Pettitte come up we’ll have 14 pitchers 11 position players, oh snap :x

  65. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Luis, Face,

    Everybody is invited to cut in, that’s why are we all here, right?

    About the FA, I was just thinking that a good portion of young pitchers are being locked (Felix, Moore, Cain, to name a few), and position players trend to get to FA, with exceptions, of course. I do agree that they already said bye to their best years, but 2012 class offered more valuable position players than pitchers (please don’t Yu me, LOL), and 2013 seems to be the same… Thoughts?

  66. blake April 12th, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    “What kind of bat do the Yankees need to trade for in the first place and where would he even play?”

    ideally they could use either a young corner outfielder….somebody that could be a long term replacement for Swisher and be more cost effective than him…either that or a rental corner outfielder that could potentially push Swisher to DH for playoff time.

  67. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Jerkface says:
    April 12, 2012 at 8:58
    pm
    When Pineda and
    Pettitte come up we’ll
    have 14 pitchers 11
    position players, oh snap
    ——————————
    Maybe the pitchers can swing the bat better than some of the regulars, LOL

  68. randy l. April 12th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    “It’s called turn the page and live in the present, not the past.”

    the are yankee management and coaches in the present time still making yankee decisions who made the incorrect judgement that montero can’t catch.

    when he proves he can, those people should be fired.

    it’s a problem in the present.

    what’s the next stupid thing these same yankee people will do who said montero couldn’t catch?

    so it’s also a future problem for the yankees too.

    just like eiland was worshipped when he was here and then and turned out to be a bozo, there are yankee coaches and management people who need to be removed.

    just like former eiland supporters turned on him when he was no longer a yankee coach, they’ll turn on whoever gets fired for judging montero incorrectly.

    it’s a strange phenomenon how some people think when a guy is a yankee coach or in management he’s some ind of god. the second he’s gone he’s some kind of devil.

    when in reality ,the guy was what he was all the time. the only thing that changes is the perception of this kind of fan.

  69. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Dante Bichette is 4-4 against Tim Hudson this season and 3-3 tonight in the game with a double, 2 singles, walk, 2 runs scored and an RBI

    Tyler austin has a 2 run homer and Williams is 2-4 with a run scored, RBI and stolen base.

  70. Bret The Hitman April 12th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Blake,

    So RF. Ok. Anywhere else?

  71. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Bret,

    I was talking a couple of years from now. In this moment I think that we are what we are

  72. m April 12th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    If you go to the Montero player page at espn.com there is an insider’s link to an Espn the Mag article called “Montero as a Mariner” with a tease saying that he will have to prove he deserves to be their catcher.

  73. blake April 12th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Sounds like Huddy still has some work to do….

  74. Nick in SF April 12th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Raul is way too versatile and cool to lose his spot to some pitcher.

  75. MTU April 12th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Luis-

    My answer to that is that we simply do not know all of the factors that went into the decision.

    In order for us to know that you either have had to have been there, or be able to ask Brian Cashman
    directly.

    I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear it debated. The discussion could have been very lively, and the final decision may have been far from unanimous.

    What we see and what they see can be two different things is all.

    We’ll probably never know that type of detail.

  76. Bret The Hitman April 12th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Ok, so we don’t have this burning need to trade a pitcher for a bat so who cares if it’s hard to do? Anything can happen in a couple years from now – free agents – minor league prospects.

  77. Nick in SF April 12th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    ” the are yankee management and coaches in the present time still making yankee decisions who made the incorrect judgement that montero can’t catch.”

    Link, please.

  78. blake April 12th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    “So RF. Ok. Anywhere else?”

    well that’s the most pressing need seeing as how Swisher is about to become a FA and they don’t have an obvious internal option to replace him…..but a young 3rd baseman wouldn’t be bad either…..it’s tough to say because this is all hypothetical and I have no idea what’s available in reality.

  79. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Mahoney was moved to Trenton to play 2nd base. Molina, Pirela and Lyerly were DL’s and reliever Chase Whitley is being promoted to AAA. There will be people moving up the line including the extended ST players.

  80. luis April 12th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    jmv April 12th, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Let’s see the big contracts:

    Do you think Pujols is going to live up to his contract?…Or Prince Fielder?…The thing is that those player will give a reasonable amount of good years, but the back end of those contracts it’s going to be awful.

    Then you have the new CBA that puts restrains to how much new contracts you can add. Especially for the Yankees. Before any mistake the Yankees made, you could thorw money at it. Not anymore.

  81. m April 12th, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    As long as the Yankees churn out 90-something win seasons no one’s getting fired.

  82. Bret The Hitman April 12th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    I don’t see the need to trade for Swisher’s replacement with Melky Cabrera on the horizon as a long-term solution in the OF. He’s a young bat.

    And I don’t see the Yankees trading a young pitcher for Arod’s replacement when they don’t know how many more years he will last.

    It just doesn’t feel like we’re stuck without options on offense because there’s only 1 spot up (RF) up for grabs anyhow.

  83. Pat M. April 12th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Luis…….All I know is that top flight pitchers are likely to be the best paid athletes on the face of the planet when you consider what they are paid and for how light their work load is…….There is a reason for this, they are a most precious commodity…..

  84. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Marshall got whacked around pretty well for 9 hits and 5 runs in 4.2 innings. Only 2 walks, though.

  85. blake April 12th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Bret,

    Melky doesn’t solve anything regarding the payroll issue….he’s going to be fairly expensive if he has another good season….more expensive that they’ll want to pay IMO and probably more than he’s worth also.

  86. austinmac April 12th, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Betances last start and Banuelos first two starts should, but won’t, stall discussions of them as sure things. They have very serious command issues. Banuelos appears to be regressing.No, it is not because he added 2-3 mph last year. I don’t know of it is a mechanical issue, but he was dreadful today and Burnett painful in his first start I watched.

    This is why people say one never has too much pitching. Add Pineda to the list. Time will tell.

    Likewise, the questions are asked who will be removed from the rotation next month. You can bet at least one is below par and will select himself.

  87. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Luis,
    Agreed, Pujols and Fielder probably won’t live up to their contracts, but the trend seems to be that elite pitchers are less probably to reach FA, and the price in a trade is getting higher (Latos, for example). My opinion is that a decent (not elite) bat via FA or trade could be cheaper or easier, but anyway, only time will tell
    ————————–
    Bret, Blake

    Ok. RF could use an “upgrade”.

    ————————–
    The most important thing is to never allow Pineda get into a trampoline

  88. luis April 12th, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    MTU,

    Again, you are spot on…But from what i could gather, i will think they were wrong until i see prove of something that made this trade logical. But from a philosophical stand point it was the wrong move no matter how you slice it.

  89. blake April 12th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    mac,

    gotta remember that it’s still early in the season and that Baneulos is still the youngest pitcher in that league…..he’s got a lot more time to develop and I still expect him to progress this year….hope I’m right….Betances is older and really needs to start putting it together soon I would think

  90. randy l. April 12th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    “As long as the Yankees churn out 90-something win seasons no one’s getting fired.”

    eiland didn’t get fired?

  91. jmv April 12th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    New post

  92. luis April 12th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Pat M. April 12th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Luis…….All I know is that top flight pitchers are likely to be the best paid athletes on the face of the planet when you consider what they are paid and for how light their work load is…….There is a reason for this, they are a most precious commodity…..

    ===========================

    Yes, they are in relation of the time they play. You are spot on that. Finding an ace is also a very hard thing to find, so there is a reason why they are being lock up sooner. But is happening as well with impact bats, a 900 OPS bat is becoming an even rarer comodity after PED’s.

    Now let’s analyze the particular Yankees situation, They had one potential bat as a short term solution for in my view their most pressing need (aging and declining lineup). On the other hand they had at least nine arms who could potentially fill the rotation in the near future and they could go and get a certain number of pitchers in the FA for a short term solution while you wait for the arms to pan out.

    At least one or two of them will pan out, we may even have an ace in the works, strength in numbers. We cannot replace the bat with anything in the short term.

    They enhanced an already strong area at the expense of a weakness, making us vulnerable.That’s bad management in my book.

  93. randy l. April 12th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    montero is a major league catcher.

    it’s a fact.

    “But Wedge said Montero’s day will come and that all the preconceived notions about his defensive liabilities seem far off base.

    “I don’t know where it comes from,” said Wedge. “It’s like anything else in today’s social media. Something starts and it takes on a life of its own. This guy has done a solid job all spring. He does nothing but continue to get better and he just turned 22.

    “I’ve been very specific and confident in the fact I believe this guy is very capable of being an everyday catcher at some point in time, but there’s no reason to rush him. He’s still breaking into the big leagues, going through a lot of things each and every day for the first time, and he’s right on track. I’ve been very pleased.”

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=sea

  94. mick April 12th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    “As long as the Yankees churn out 90-something win seasons no one’s getting fired.”

    eiland didn’t get fired?
    =====================
    The question of who shot J.R. or J.M. in this case, was not the decision of one man.
    The owner surely signed off on it.
    If it was driven by Cashman and Girardi and the Yanks win in spite of it, Montero would have to have some “generational” years to precipitate a firing.
    It would have to take a lot of losing to dismantle this machine.

  95. randy l. April 12th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    montero link
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=sea

  96. Duh Innings April 12th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    LOL @ Montero’s BA > OBP

    21 AB and no BB in 6 games. Someone’s team isn’t hitting their way out of a paper bag. That’s not even 4 AB a game without BBs cutting into the total and he’s batted mostly 5th and 6th.

    Seattle is still atrocious offensively save Ichiro who is fading.

  97. Duh Innings April 12th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    ‘No idea when he started/will start batting 6th which is why I wrote “5th and 6th”.

  98. Native Bronxite April 13th, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Very informative. Please consider doing monthly.

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