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Postgame notes: “Today was just one of those days”

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While just about everything seemed to be working for Hiroki Kuroda on Friday when he pitched eight scoreless innings against the Los Angeles Angels in the Yankees’ home opener, it was the complete opposite story in Wednesday’s 6-5 loss to the Minnesota Twins.

“My sinker didn’t have much movement today,” Kuroda said. “My sinker is my core pitch, but I didn’t really have my other pitches working either. In past outings, I was able to go to other pitches and make adjustments.”

It was quite clear from the first few batters of the game that the right-hander was going to struggle tonight. He gave up a leadoff single to Denard Span, followed by back-to-back RBI doubles from Jamey Carroll and Joe Mauer. Justin Morneau, who had a ridiculous game, terrorized Kuroda all night, including a two-run blast to cap a four-run first inning. After allowing only five hits total in his last outing, Kuroda gave up five in the first inning alone. He left a lot of balls in the middle of the plate, and the Twins made him pay.

“Today was just one of those days where it seemed like he was struggling with command,” Russell Martin said. “When that happens, you try to throw breaking balls early in the count and keep the hitters off balance. But they were just fighting off good pitches, and when they got a pitch to hit, they didn’t miss it.”

• The first inning was the worst that we saw from Kuroda, but Morneau was on him all game. After dealing with concussion issues for the past few season, the 2006 AL MVP seemed plenty healthy tonight. He went 3 for 4 with two homers and three RBI, knocking Kuroda out of the game with a blast to the Bleacher Creatures in the fifth. “It just seems like he’s on everything,” Martin said of Morneau. “Try to go up and in with the cutter, and he smokes it to right. Try the backdoor breaking ball, and he leaves it over the plate. He’s just not missing any pitches right now, and it’s tough.”

• One thing you can say about Kuroda, is that he certainly holds himself accountable. “I can’t really make that an excuse,” Kuroda said when asked if him being unfamiliar with the Twins lineup hurt him tonight. “I’m a professional baseball player, and when I go out on the mound, I’m out there to win.”

• The big news to come out of the postgame press conference is that Brett Gardner is heading to the 15-day DL. He was scratched right before the game due to soreness in his right elbow, and Girardi said after the game that he’s going to be out for a couple of weeks. He said he thinks the injury occurred when Gardner caught his wrist while making a sliding catch last night. “He took BP today and said he felt fine,” Girardi said. “But when he went to take his swings in the cage at 6:20-6:30, it wasn’t fine. So at some point in between, it must have really flared up.”

• In part because of an overtaxed bullpen, Girardi said the team will call up RHP Cody Eppley to take Gardner’s roster spot. Eppley was claimed off of waivers from the Texas Rangers on April 5. The 26-year-old posted a 3.90 ERA with 8.9 K/9 and 5.5 BB/9 in 55 1/3 innings of relief with the Rangers’ Triple-A affiliate in Round Rock last season.

• Without Gardner, you can expect to see Raul Ibanez and Andruw Jones split time in left field, but Girardi noted that Eduardo Nunez is an option there as well. Ibanez leaves something to be desired defensively, while Jones has looked lackadaisical at times. “If they need me to play wherever, I’m ready to help out,” Ibanez said. “Left, right, whatever.”

• The Yankees got right back into the game after Kuroda’s rough first inning with three runs in the bottom half of the inning. Derek Jeter led off with a single, Curtis Granderson walked and Mark Teixeira hit a sac fly. Robby Cano followed that with an RBI double, and then Nick Swisher came through with a two-run single. But Eric Chavez ended the inning by grounding into a double play with the bases loaded. “It seemed like we were just one hit short all night from tying it up or possibly going ahead,” Girardi said. “You look at the last at-bat, and Tex just missed that ball. I was pleased with our at-bats. I thought we continued to swing the bats and hit the ball hard.”

• There were good signs offensively tonight from Jeter, Cano and Tex. Cano went 2 for 4 with a double and a solo shot in the third inning. Jeter continued his hot hitting with a 3 for 5 day, launching his fourth homer of the season to pull the Yanks to within one in the ninth. He seems to be on everything, as he currently leads the Yankees in homers and batting average (.389). And the most encouraging signs came from Tex, who hit the ball hard every time up. He finished 2 for 5, but his best swings came on outs. In the first, he drove a ball to CF; in the third, he drove a ball to deep left-center; and in the ninth, he just missed hitting one out to right to tie the game. All of those at-bats came from the left side. “I’ve been feeling really good at the plate,” Teixeira said. “Right-handed and left-handed, and it showed today. I thought had five good at-bats, and you really can’t ask for anything more except for a win.”

• The Yankees bullpen also did some fine work tonight. Both of their lefties out of the pen — Boone Logan (1.35 ERA and 1.05 WHIP in 6.2 IP) and Clay Rapada (3.86 ERA in 4.2 IP) — combined to pitch 3.2 scoreless innings, allowing just two hits and two walks while striking out six. Logan retired four consecutive batters via strikeout during one stretch, and is averaging nearly two K’s per inning.

• Here’s Twins manager Ron Gardenhire on Morneau, who was the feel-good story of the game: “I’ve watched him go through struggles the last couple of years here,” he said. “Numerous injuries and then the concussion thing, and I’ve watched him not be able to play baseball, which he likes to do an awful lot… To see the smile on his face and see him rooting for his teammates, which is really huge for us, and being a part of this, it’s big. That’s what you manage for.”

• Phil Hughes will get the start for the Yankees tomorrow and try to bounce back from two disappointing starts. I’ll have more on him in a post I’m going to put up tomorrow morning.

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241 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Today was just one of those days””

  1. CompassRosy April 19th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    repost:::

    “Which is why I dislike the strategy, MTU. Baseball issues, like life, are often unforeseeable. Balance helps mitigate a great range of them.”

    ~

    And, there is seemingly no more balanced team in the AL than the Texas Rangers.

    That they lead the league in runs and OPS is far from a shocker.
    That they have the lowest ERA in the league and second lowest WHIP is a bit surprising.

    15 more times … oh joy :(

  2. muwarriorsfan April 19th, 2012 at 12:18 am

    92 pitches thrown so far for Colon…

    70 for strikes.

    Just another shrewd Cashman decision to let Colon go and keep Garcia, who can’t get anyone out.

  3. UnKnown April 19th, 2012 at 12:20 am

    Nunez can’t be any worse in the OF than Ibanez. Let Jones, Raul, and Nunez rotate around in Left for a couple of weeks. Leave Jeter the heck alone at SS and let him play everyday. Especially cause he is on fire. Use Chavez to give Al his necessary days off.

    Tomorrow is the first really “must win” of the season, considering the 9 games after that. Obviously must win is not be be taken literally.

  4. jacksquat April 19th, 2012 at 12:24 am

    I’d just put Nunez out there in LF, let Jones and Ibanez platoon at DH. I don’t want them on the field.

    Good time to get a longer look at Nunez’ bat and if he can play LF.

  5. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    “I’d just put Nunez out there in LF”

    Me too. Might as well see what’s he’s got.

  6. 4 NYY April 19th, 2012 at 12:35 am

    Why do we need another pitcher ? Eppley.

  7. CompassRosy April 19th, 2012 at 12:45 am

    wow…

    - Colon’s first ball came on his 39th pitch tonight.
    - Cliff Lee threw 10 scoreless innings … in ONE game.

  8. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    “And, there is seemingly no more balanced team in the AL than the Texas Rangers.”

    No question, as of today (or really the last two seasons), they have the most legitimate claim to being the best team in the AL.

  9. Your Worst Nightmare April 19th, 2012 at 12:59 am

    The ‘Melkman’ Delivers the GWRBI ! Giants win 1 – 0 in 11 . Cain and Lee each throw a shutout for 9 innings. (Lee for 10 actually)

    What a pitching duel.

  10. Nick in SF April 19th, 2012 at 1:18 am

    Nunez did pretty well playing every day when Jeter was on the DL last year.

    Hope he gets the chance to do it again now.

  11. waka flocka April 19th, 2012 at 1:49 am

    really wish Colon was still here instead of Garcia and thats not based strictly on 2012.

  12. Wang IS Taiwan April 19th, 2012 at 2:02 am

    I vote to put Nunez in the field. Andruw doesn’t want to be out there, and Ibanez is a mess defensively.

    Let Jeter play!

  13. MoRings42 April 19th, 2012 at 3:04 am

    Colon was really fun to watch when he was on his game the first half of last season. I wish we had someone like that right now.

  14. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2012 at 5:55 am

    1st Bman/RF Neil Medchill has been promoted to Trenton from Tampa

  15. Benny Blanco April 19th, 2012 at 6:48 am

    “really wish Colon was still here instead of Garcia and thats not based strictly on 2012.”

    Remember, last year colon ran out of gas. After the hamstring injury he was no longer the same pitcher.

  16. Villa Nova-Ya April 19th, 2012 at 7:15 am

    I was disappointed in Jones’ approach in the field last night. Reminiscent of early last season. If Gardner is going to be out for two weeks, I’d hope Girardi would go to Nunez as often as possible in LF. I think he will, based on his post-game interview last night, when he put Nunez’ name out there as a possible.

    There are a couple two or three things that I keep hanging my hat on, so to speak. One is that no one in the division is running away with anything. Second is as tiring as it is getting to hear, Girardi is correct – they have been swinging the bats well, hitting the ball hard (as in line drives) with nothing to show for it. And third, well, it’s really early in the year. However, I won’t be surprised if the division is a dog fight for most of the season.

    If the Yankees pitching is nice-weather dependent, then I’m hoping for a hot, dry summer (with the Yankees missing the rain and cooler temps throughout, because we do need rain after all :) ).

    As for Colon vs. Garcia, based on last year, Cashman chose the correct one because Garcia proved to be more durable. Now, had Cashman known for a fact that he would need a pitcher for just a portion of the year because Andy Pettitte was going to join them mid-year; or had he known that he was going to make a deal for a young pitcher who would start the year on the DL, Colon might have been the guy to re-sign, because he’d be winding down at about the time the other guys were ready. ;) Oh, to have that magical crystal ball!

  17. Against All Odds April 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am

    igotid88 April 19th, 2012 at 12:56 am

    Funny how every pitcher gets a pass but Hughes has to show something

    —————-

    No pitcher on the team gets a pass.

  18. jacksquat April 19th, 2012 at 7:35 am

    We know Nunez has the legs and arm to play OF well, it’s just a matter of fly ball judgement and routes, throwing to the right place, etc.

    Last night Jones looked like he wasn’t interested or had an injury or something. Ibanez’ follies are well documented on videdo, and statistically he is one of the worst in the OF.

    I don’t think Nunez could be worse and probably would be better. Plus they need to see what they have.

    I have a feeling I am going to be disappointed by Girardi yet again though…

  19. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am

    Yankees fans boo Jones for jogging after ball
    By DAN MARTIN

    Posted: 3:11 AM, April 19, 2012

    Andruw Jones drew the wrath of some Yankees fans Wednesday night when he lazily chased after Alexi Casilla’s double to left field in the eighth.

    The Twins’ second baseman stumbled out of the batter’s box, but Jones jogged over to the ball, and instead of throwing to second base to try to get Casilla, Jones lobbed it into third.

    “I didn’t see him fall down, so I just thought it was an automatic double,” Jones said following the 6-5 loss to the Twins at the Stadium. “It was no big deal. The guy didn’t score, right?”

    Still, Jones, who figures to play more left field now that Brett Gardner is on the 15-day disabled list with a sore right elbow, heard a smattering of boos when he came to the plate in the bottom of the inning and then again in the top of the ninth, when he slipped chasing another ball

    Where have you gone, Justin Maxwell? Yankee nation turns its lonely eyes to you! :(

  20. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 7:40 am

    Good morning.

    The nice thing about the Yankees situation is that they are likely to have options with SP due to their depth.

    If Hughes and/or Garcia do not perform in fairly short order AP will replace one of them.

    Phelps is already a viable option and if all goes well Pineda will be back as well.

    That’s 2 more options.

  21. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Sucks that GGBG injured himself.

    He was off to a really good start.

    :(

  22. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 7:45 am

    “I have to pitch well, that’s the bottom line,” Hughes said before the Yankees’ 6-5 loss to the Twins Wednesday night at the Stadium. “That’s part of being a Yankee. If you’re not getting the job done they’ll bring in somebody else that does. It pushes me to be that much better and I enjoy that. There’s no doubt in my fastball this year. But at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter if you’re throwing 100. If you’re not getting outs, something has to change.”

    Phil-If you’re throwing 100 mph, I guarantee you’ll get outs!!

  23. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Good morning-

    Didn’t see the game last night, but reviewed some of the videos and replays.

    It’s tough when you come into the 9th inning, down two runs, trying to blast it out of the park, instead of working to get on base and sustain a rally. One solo homer and one routine fly ball out by Tex to the short porch, to end the game.

  24. jacksquat April 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Montero: .262/.283/.357

    Now I know why there have not been many Montero updates the past few days.

  25. blake April 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Tonight’s game is about as must win as an April game can be….you can’t lose 3 of 4 at home to one of the worst teams in baseball……especially with the schedule they have coming up.

  26. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am

    YT-

    When the Yankees score 5 runs they should win.

    The starting Pitching failed.

    It needs to be better.

    ;)

  27. blake April 19th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    MTU,

    I agree….they are actually lucky to be 6-6 as bad as their pitching has been……I do think they’ll pitch better…..

  28. jacksquat April 19th, 2012 at 7:55 am

    Rangers starting pitcher ERA’s:

    Matt Harrison: 0.64
    Colby Lewis: 1.83
    Neftali Feliz: 2.25
    Derek Holland: 3.10

    Good team, but obviously that is not sustainable.

  29. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    Blake-

    Unfortunately, most 4 game sets end in splits.

    Would have been nice to take 3 of 4 from the Twinkies.

    You’ve got to pitch. We haven’t been getting that and have been relying on our O to bail us out.

    That goes against the design of the team.

    It’s built around Solid Pitching.

    Once we start to get it on a regular basis we’ll be fine. Until then we won’t.

  30. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am

    It’s amazing that Jason Marquis, like Pavano, had a rough 1st inning, and with mediocre off speed stuff had the Yankees striking out or hitting weak grounders to the infield-say a short video of his outing.

    Bad call when Cano hit into a double play-he was safe at first, but then he was slow getting out of the box and down the line.

    Why won’t Girardi argue more vehemently and get himself thrown out of a game occasionally?

  31. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Blake-

    Sorry. I posted the above before I saw your reply.

  32. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 7:59 am

    YT-

    We still managed 5 runs.

    Could we have scored more ?

    Sure but 5 should get you a win most nights if you pitch.

    ;)

  33. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:00 am

    “Good team, but obviously that is not sustainable.

    No not at those levels…..but all four of those guys are good pitchers…..Harrison is a really underrated guy and big Feliz and Holland have big upside. If they get good starting pitching this year and Hamilton stays healthy im not sure anybody can hang with them to be honest…..they are stacked.

  34. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:02 am

    It’s early in the season.

    Our starters have yet to get in a groove.

    They will or some of them will be replaced.

    Hughes knows it and so do some of the others.

    That’s where AP, Pineda, and Phelps come in.

    We’re lucky to have that kind of depth and those options.

    Most teams don’t.

    :)

  35. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Bad loss last night that seems worse because of some of the efforts….Jones in LF….Cano on the tag at 2B and running down the line on the double play.

    I hope Girardi had a little talk with the team last night….

  36. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am

    The Rangers might not have the pitching to sustain such low ERA’s but they clearly have the pitching to be one of the best in terms of ERA in the AL for the season.
    They were 5th in the AL, last year with a team ERA of 3.79.

    Look at the attached current team pitching stats around the league. Also look at the teams batting stats.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching

  37. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    Blake-

    After last season ended for the Rangers I remember Kinsler being interviewed and he said that the Rangers need to prove that they are as good as everyone thinks by going all the way.

    I think they are on a mission to do just that this season.

    To overcome the “close but no cigar” moniker that is on them right now.

  38. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:07 am

    BTW-
    You might be surprised at the team with the 2nd worst ERA in the entire league, so far this season!

  39. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    Wouldn’t Justin Maxwell, be a nice exciting player in LF, today?

    I’d like to see Nunez get as much time as possible to become the Yankees super utility guy. With Gardner out, the team could use his speed.

  40. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:12 am

    MTU,

    Agreed….top to bottom they are the best team right now….whether they stay there depends on their pitching and Hamilton…..when Hamilton is right he makes that lineup just incredible.

    Everyone was jumping on the Angels bandwagon this winter…..and while I think they’ll be good and a lot better than they’ve played…..I never thought they were better than the Rangers…..even with Pujols their lineup isn’t anywhere close to as good and their bullpen is bad……

    Last year…..the Yanks matched up well with Texas because of the lefties in their rotation…..now the Rangers went and added two hard throwing righties in Darvish and Feliz so I like it a lot less….

    Its early….but the Tigers and Rangers both present potential problems down the road for the bombers IMO

  41. Villa Nova-Ya April 19th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    Is it the Rays, YT?

  42. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:14 am

    Texas was the best team going into the season – that’s what happens when you get to the WS twice in a row.

  43. austinmac April 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    The Yankees starting pitching has been terrible. They called up Eppley because they are burning through the bullpen arms. Let’s hope Pettitte and Pineda can help or it could be a long season. In all honesty, we don’t yet know what they will bring to the table.

    Texas is clearly the best team in the league. They on the last two pennants and are rolling.

  44. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    I don’t believe this is a must win, Blake – it’s just a game, 1 game at the beginning of an endless season. It would suck to lose 3/4 to the Twins, but it’s still just a game and relatively meaningless. If this is a must game, then they are all must games since you never want to lose any ground in this division.

  45. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:18 am

    The Tigers were better going into the season as well. I never could understand why everyone thought the Yankees were the best team. Our pitching staff had questions and heaven knows our lineup had questions as well.

  46. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Blake-

    Those 2 teams have monster offenses and competitive pitching.

    Very tough.

    The competition is decidedly better this year IMO.

    Luckily for us Baltimore still sucks and the Sux seem headed fro the rocks.

    That will help a little.

  47. Villa Nova-Ya April 19th, 2012 at 8:19 am

    In the sense that they need to see a good outing from Phil Hughes, that they don’t want to lose the series to the Twins, and they don’t want to end their homestand under .500, today is a game that if not a “must win,” is definitely as close as you can get to that on April 19th.

  48. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Villa-

    Good morning. Enjoyed your earlier posts and agree. Yes it’s the Rays with a team ERA of 5.56 and a BAA of .270. Next to last in the entire league. Red Sox are last and the Yankees are 22nd in the league.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching

  49. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Villa, I really just think that is overstating it and I don’t agree. If they lose, they lose. It won’t be good, but it means nothing in the scheme of things.

    They need a good start from Phil mostly because their SP has been brutal and the pen is getting quite a workout.

  50. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    So far Oakland has the 6th best team ERA!!

    Traded away Gonzalez, Moscoso, Cahill. Lost Braden and Anderson to surgery. Breslow, Bailey and Harden gone.

    How do they do it?

  51. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Betsy-

    I’m inclined to go with your take.

    It’s early. It’s a long season.

    This soon very little is critical.

    Hughes needs to start nailing it soon.

  52. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    “I don’t believe this is a must win, Blake – it’s just a game, 1 game at the beginning of an endless season. ”

    Its not a must win….its April….but all 162 count the same and its a game they need to win with 3 tough series in a row coming up…..winning games and series like this one with the Twins makes life easier on you later on….

  53. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Betsy-

    On the bright side.

    We could be the Sux, right ?

    ;)

  54. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    MTU-

    Cirrently the Orioles staff has a 3.65 ERA, 5th in the AL and have 20 homers, 2 less than the Rangers with 22, tops in the entire league.

    The Orioles proved at the end of last season that they are no patsies.

  55. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Today is a game that if not a “must win,” is definitely as close as you can get to that on April 19th.”

    Agreed and that’s what I meant….losing 3 of 4 to the Twins before playing the Sox, Rangers, and Tigers isn’t good and they need to not let that happen….

  56. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:30 am

    *currently*

  57. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:32 am

    MTU, I’ve just learned that the season is soooooooooo long, it’s longer than it even seems just looking at the schedule. There are so many ups and downs that I can’t get too down about one series in early April. They will undoubtedly have games like this later on as well…..

    Blake, by that reckoning then every game is a must game because you never want to lose a one. I’m not saying I don’t care if they win, and yes any game you win now is one less you have to win later, but it’s still just a game to me. Perhaps I’m just more fatalistic about the Yankees. If they’re good enough, they’ll show it. If not, I’m no longer going to freak out about it.

  58. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    The May schedule lightens up considerably ….so the Yanks need to hold serve over these next two weeks until that point and until hopefully they get some pitching reinforcements and Gardner healthy……if they can get through the next 3 series and be within a game or two of first places then that’ll be good……hopefully they’ll sweep the Sox and make up for this Twins series…..but at Fenway that’s never likely.

  59. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Here’s my predicitions:

    When it’s all said and done the the Yankee starting staff will be in the top 6.

    Their pen will be the best in baseball.

    And their O will be top half-dozen

    That will result in a min. of 95 wins and a playoff spot.

    What they do in the PS is indeterminate since outcomes depend so much more on luck.

    The hot team has a tendency to win it all.

    :)

  60. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    MTU, honestly, I don’t spend any time thinking about the Sox. I hate them, but I don’t have the energy or time to concentrate on the Yankees and another team, lol. The Sox are a good team and while they have issues, they will be fine; I respect them a great deal.

  61. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    YT-

    Their pitching staff will not be able to sustain anywhere near that IMO.

    Rick Peterson or not.

    W/o pitching they are patsies.

  62. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    MTU, I’m always skeptical of the Yankees in the post-season anyway, but that is such a long way away that it doesn’t matter. They need to get their SP in order and soon.

  63. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    “Blake, by that reckoning then every game is a must game because you never want to lose a one.”

    No…..Im saying that beating the teams you should beat is the easiest way to have a good record…….its not the end of the world ….lot of season left….but I didn’t like their effort last night…..and although not every game os a must win…..they all do count

  64. jacksquat April 19th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Jeter on pace for 54 homeruns. :mrgreen:

  65. Villa Nova-Ya April 19th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    YT -

    Just goes to show – you really need to let the season unfold. The Rays’ pitching is way better than that. Could you imagine where the Yankees would be without the bullpen????

    Of course it is much better to get off to a good start than a bad one, or even a mediocre one, two weeks in April is no different than 2 weeks in May or June or August. You can take any slice of a season and most teams will fall anywhere in that range.

  66. Betsy April 19th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Blake, I don’t disagree. They have not played as well as their record indicates, actually, even in Baltimore.

  67. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Jeter looks awesome…..he’s driving the ball…..he’s not striking out…he’s been great…now we need to get his buddies Alex and Grandy going.

  68. 86w183 April 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    I agree that winning is better than losing, but that’s it. This is just another game early in a loooong season. They’re one game back for Pete’s sake.

    Oakland normally has good/excellent pitching stats because they play in a HUGE park with more foul territory than any other park and twice as much as some.

  69. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am

    If Hughes and Garcia have bad outings in their next two starts, this is the possible scenario:

    Mid May:
    Sabathia
    Kuroda
    Pettitte
    Nova
    Phelps

    Bullpen-Hughes, Wade, Logan, Rapada/Mitchell, Soriano, Robertson, Rivera
    Garcia- if a taker, traded.
    Pineda in the minors working on regaining velocity and honing the CU

    Mid June:
    Sabathia
    Kuroda
    Pettitte
    Nova
    Pineda

    Bullpen-Phelps, Hughes, Wade, Logan, Soriano, Robertson, Rivera

    Late July: Possible return of Aardsma to add to the mix
    September: Maybe Joba

  70. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Hamels, Arrietta, Matusz, Chen, plus Pitcher X is not a good pitching staff.

    Hamels as an ace in the AL East is a joke.

    He’s more like a #3 at best.

    Arrietta has potential.

    Matusz has been a mess.

    Chen is completely unproven.

    Their #5 guy is non-existent.

    Crap for a pen.

    That’s how I see them. Let’s see if I’m right.

    ;)

  71. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Hughes needs to show that he can pitch more than five innings. Not that tonight should be do or die, but the revived stuff should begin to pay some dividends.

  72. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am

    No one in the AL East is runnin’ away anything just yet.

    Everyone is bunched up pretty tight except fot the Sux who suck.

    :)

  73. 86w183 April 19th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    By the way the next time someone has the urge to rip the Pineda trade yet again, don’t forget about Jose’ Campos.

    After three starts in Charleston he’s 3-0, 0.56 with 18 K in 16 inn….. and he’s just 19!

  74. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:44 am

    YT-

    Nice layout of the possibilities.

    That’s why I am not overly concerned.

    :)

  75. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am

    86-

    Thanks for the update.

    If he keeps it up he should get a promo by mid-season.

    :)

  76. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    They do have some pitchers that can be moved for offense. The test for Cashman will be to decide which one(s).

  77. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am

    “Not that tonight should be do or die, but the revived stuff should begin to pay some dividends.”

    Yea his stuff has returned….but so far he’s looked more like the 2nd half 2010 Hughes….the one that had the stuff to get ahead of hitters but just nothing tonactually get them out on. Hughes really needs to develop a pitch that he can generate weak contact with….something where he can get a few quick outs to save some pitches…..a two seamer….a split….a better curveball….something…..because the foul, foul, ball, foul, ball, ball method isn’t working ……

  78. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Melky clutch as usual and against great pitching. Perhaps Cashman should sign Nick Johnson again, or resurrect Jaret Wright? We need Melky; we had Melky; Cashman let him go…oh and he let Jesus go…oh and he let Ian go….oh and he let Damon go..oh and let Colon go……….Genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  79. Villa Nova-Ya April 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    86w183 -

    That’s encouraging, but it’s a long road between Charleston and NY. See Banuelos and Betances. :(

    Rich in NJ – Agree with that – not do or die, but it would be nice to see something better.

  80. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Hughes needs to show that he can pitch more than five inning
    ————————————-
    Rich-

    Definitely.

    You all will enjoy this article on Phil Hughes. I posted it yesterday:

    http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....hil-hughes

  81. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 19th, 2012 at 8:49 am

    “They do have some pitchers that can be moved for offense. The test for Cashman will be to decide which one(s).”

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Cashman has done enough damage. Have Stick Michael make the decisions and send Cash to Boston!!!!!!!

  82. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Melky Cabrera is da man. Clutch situation hitter!

    http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.....38;c_id=sf

  83. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    True blake,

    I would at least like to see better command and the return of the ability to keep the ball down in the zone, like he did when he came up in 2007. And yes, the hard curve he had then would be nice too.

  84. Villa Nova-Ya April 19th, 2012 at 8:55 am

    Losing today doesn’t kill the season, but winning today before a road trip to Boston and Detroit is a much more preferable outcome. You need to beat the teams your supposed to beat, especially at home.

    So, not do or die, because there are 150 games left, but I’m sure that if you asked the Yankees themselves they’d say this is a game they want in their back pocket.

  85. 86w183 April 19th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    I’m hoping/expecting to see some sort of deal that sends Hughes/Garcia plus Warren/Mitchell/Stoneburner away for a young OF.

    Hughes will either be the bullpen or he’ll be moved. Pettite and Pineda will see to that.

  86. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    YT

    The article makes some good points, but I disagree with the writer about putting him in the pen as a fallback position. I would try to remake him in the mL.

  87. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    VN-

    Of course but it’s still only 1 game early in the season.

    What seems more concerning is how Hughes will pitch ?

    Does he get it together or continue to flounder ?

    That is definitely an issue of some import.

  88. blake April 19th, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Rich,

    Yea me too……I am starting to wonder with Hughes though if perhaps the reason he dominated in the minors was just because minor league hitters can’t handle his fastball and that has masked a problem that’s always been there……we saw it a little in ST this year as well when he just overwhelmed minor league guys coming in after the starter and a lot of the big leaguers had come out…..I don’t know if that’s the case or not…..but I think he needs to ditch that cutter and try and find some way to become more efficient

  89. yanks61 April 19th, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Everybody, all together now – You can NEVER have ENOUGH PITCHING!

    ——————————————————————–

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 18th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
    THE YANKEES ARE 3RD IN THE AL IN RUNS AND 10TH in the AL in ERA.

    Just thought you’d like to be able to apply a little perspective here.

    —————————————————————————-

    It’s obviously far too early to know for sure, but real question marks surround Hughes, Garcia and even Kuroda (though I’m still hopeful regarding the latter.) If they don’t come around and pitch as well as we had hoped, is every one happy now that we can plug in Petttitte and Pineda? Along with the unexpected emergence of Phelps, the NYY have some great fall back options for this year – which they would not have had had Cash not gone out and gotten Pineda and resigned Andy. Even with diminished velocity (which I think will come back eventually), Pineda is a better pitcher at this stage than Phil or Freddy, and is still a promising possiblity for a # 2 or 3.

    The three P’s may yet be the solution to this year’s problem and, who knows maybe next year as well. With setbacks to the two B’s, they may not be ready for prime time next year. With Garcia gone, maybe soon, and Kuroda almost certainly gone next year, the face of the of the rotation in 2013 probably begins with CC, Nova and Pineda – and then? Maybe Andy is still chucking well and stays. Maybe Phelps rounds into a viable alternative. But Andy can probably no longer be counted upon to be number 3 and it’s way too early to look at Phelps as that either. So, 2 & 3 are Nova and a hopefully healthy Pineda. Warren & Mitchell are not regarded as more than back of the rotation pitchers. The immediate pitching depth for the starting rotation for 2013 no longer looks so awfully deep, does it?

    So, once more for the road – you can NEVER have ENOUGH PITCHING!

    As for this year (and the coming few years – before the Bichettes, Mason Williams, Sanchezs, Murphys etc. are ready), Arod, Tex, Grandy and Cano will ALL have to start swinging a lot better than they are now or no one single other hitter is going to make a heck of a lot of difference.

    And those guys ARE going to pick it up. Even hitting as badly as they are now, they’re still the 3rd best offense in the league. So when they do break out, the offense is going to get still better. The starting PITCHING is, therefore, what needs to improve – and happily the solution may be getting ready right now in Florida.

  90. blake April 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am

    “I would try to remake him in the mL.”

    I agree in an ideal world…..but 1) coukd they rebuild him and get any value from him before he becomes a FA? 2) would he be better than Soriano as a reliver?

    If Hughes had 3 or 4 years team control left thenbits a different story…..but at this point I don’t know if they have enough time to rebuild hin if it comes to that…

  91. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    yanks61-

    Kudos.

    Gold star !

    :)

  92. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 9:07 am

    A full season for a starter is around 30 games or thereabouts.

    We have seen approx. 10% from each starter.

    Hardly enough of a sample to judge very much.

    Talk to me later on when decisions have to be made.

    ;)

  93. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Gotta start geting ready for today’s hike.

  94. Villa Nova-Ya April 19th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    MTU -

    Ah, but I’m thinking, if Hughes has a good outing, the chances of a positive outcome for the entire team goes way up!

    So the two are tied together.

  95. Yankee Trader April 19th, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Good points all. Have to go for now.

    Phil-Pitch well today, get into the late innings, crank up the fastball, show them some solid secondary pitches, and make it difficult for the Yankees to take you out of the rotation in the coming weeks.

  96. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    So, once more for the road – you can NEVER have ENOUGH PITCHING!
    -

    Except, as you said, they have lots of fallback pitching options, but they do not have similar offensive options. So you can use caps or bold or italics, but they do have enough pitching.

  97. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    blake

    Speaking of Soriano, what happened to his velo?

    I wonder how Hughes views his furture.

  98. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Later.

  99. ron April 19th, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Pettitte,and pineda will be in the rotation soon,maybe phelps also.
    We might not have the best team,but we are right there with texas,and detroit.

    This happens every year,then we roll.

  100. longtimefan April 19th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    It is going to be a long season, Twins are not the elite of the AL, came to yankee stadium with only two wins having been swept by Orioles and Rangers. Yankess are looking every bit their age

  101. blake April 19th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    “Speaking of Soriano, what happened to his velo?”

    According to fangraphs his velo was almost identical in 2011 to his big year with theteam Rays in 2010…..its down about 1mph this year but its early so I expect that to come around…..I don’t think that’s the problem so much as his command and the fact that perhaps he just never was as dominating as perceived and that the midas touch Rays got lucky he had a career year in 2010.

  102. Shame Spencer April 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am

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    “Even if Congress asks you stupid questions, you shouldn’t lie,” she said.

    The woman was dismissed.”

    Hehehe… lots of funny stuff in the Post this morning lol.

  103. yanks61 April 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    MTU, as a VERY long time Yankee fan, there’s nothing I’d like better than to see a SUPER-charged Hughes turn it on and get into that mix for a shut-em down rotation. A team that scores 5-6 runs per game should be winning an awful lot of games.

    What I’d love to see with CC and all the Yanks young pitching is a rotation one day that looks like that 1970 Oriole rotation of Palmer, McNally, Cuellar et al. Those O’s won a lot of games. And this Yankee offense can match up quite well with the 70 O’s offense – probably even be a fair bit better.

  104. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    VN-

    I am pulling for Hughes to nail it.

    That’s the best possible outcome.

    :)

  105. MTU April 19th, 2012 at 9:25 am

    61-

    From your mouth to God’s ears.

    :)

  106. yanks61 April 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    “Except, as you said, they have lots of fallback pitching options, but they do not have similar offensive options. So you can use caps or bold or italics, but they do have enough pitching.”

    Yes, Rich, precisely because they went out and got it in Pineda and Pettitte. Because without those additions, where’s your pitching? Even with Pettitte there are still question marks, no matter how much we want to see him succeed. As I pointed out (though next time I won’t use any caps since they seem to be so hard on your eyes!), none of the Yankees options are sure things, so having quality arms in numbers gives you a better chance of coming up with those who will succeed.

  107. Hassey April 19th, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Come on guys…

    I mean, the Yankees may score 13 runs today knowing them, but please don’t try to tell me that the MWM boys aren’t going to take him apart.

    And please don’t tell me I’m not a good Yankee fan if I don’t blindly believe in our boys. I am not a child. If Hughes pitched for any other team, you’d all be saying he’s just some unknown hittable schmo. The problem is that as of today, he is still OUR hittable schmo. I can’t see him still here AND successful in 3-5 years.

  108. Bo knows April 19th, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Everyone is dumping on Minnesota as a bad team. I disagree. Span, Willingham and the the two bombers are pretty good offensive weapons. The others will kick in a run or two. Morneau is some kind of beast.

    I saw some level swings from Teix yesterday so there is a glimmer. The thing is that the team needs some dedication to compete, before reality kicks them in the what nots.

    If the pitching falters, it’s up to the offense to pick them up. It’s getting awful close to tune up time.

  109. Bo knows April 19th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    The crusty motto “We play today, we win today – dassit.

  110. blake April 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    The Twins have a decent offense when healthy but I would still call them a pretty bad team….terrible rotation…..pretty terrible bullpen. Ill be surprised if they don’t finish last in that division.

  111. bruceb April 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Looks like Cashman opted to keep the wrong guy. I understand his reasoning behind opting for Garcia over Colon: consistency and durability over a 162-game season. But we all remember just how effective Colon was at the start of 2011 and now he’s doing it all over again for Oakland. Will Colon still be throwing like this in August? Probably not. But after watching the garbage our starters have been throwing so far, we could sure use a strike-throwing machine like Colon right now.

  112. randy l. April 19th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    well being 6-6 is a lot better than being 4-8.

    the yankees haven’t hurt or helped themselves so far. change mariano’s blown save and they’re 7-5

    at any rate , we’re seeing what they have, as are the coaches and management.

    i would like them to increase the games ahead of boston for purely selfish reasons. i”l be on cape cod in a few days and who wants to listen to red sox fans hyperventilating over beating the yankees.

    as far as kuroda last night, that was disappointing because he’s going to have to be counted on for 14-15 victories. i had no feeling one way or the other , but i think i’m deciding i like the guy and i’m going to be especially rooting for him from now on in the face of some other people’s negativity towards him. he’s stand up even when things go wrong and fights when he doesn’t have his pitches.

    no why yankee pitchers in general seem to get off to such slow starts, i have no idea. giradi seems to think sabathia is a warm weather pitcher though factions on this blog don’t believe weather related performance issues.

    i think it takes the pitchers a while to pitch themselves into shape because spring training doesn’t seem to do it for them most years.

    hughes tonight?

    my baseball Ouija board says good game tonight hughes with a continued live fastball with better command . i think he’ll focus on location and make an attempt at keeping the ball down. he doesn’t have enough velocity to pitch up.

  113. blake April 19th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Here is question…..if he’s not already…..his much longer does Jeter have to be good before he’s the greatest SS of all time?

    Its hard to compare him to Wagner because of the eras….but let’s say Jeter repeats 2009 this year (I know there is a long way to go) and then has a solid 2013 and 2014…..pushes for 4,000 hits etc…..personally I think he’s already had a better career than anyone aside from maybe Wagner…..but this apparent 2nd wind in his career coukd take him to any even higher level all time than previously thought…..

  114. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    No one was pining for Colon this past winter.

  115. blake April 19th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Despite the results this year so far…..they made the right call on Colon vs Garcia given the info they had. Garcia is younger….has a better recent track record…..and pitched better in the 2nd half last year……

  116. Shame Spencer April 19th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    No one was pining for Colon this past winter.
    ————————

    Speak for yourself. I capitalized COLON so many times I was afraid someone might think I had a colonoscopy fetish. I actually preferred Colon to Garcia despite the way he ended the year because I was certain (like many others on here) that his issue was fatigue from not pitching a full season in years. Colon’s stuff was always more impressive than Garcia’s, people just didn’t think he could do the first half of last season over again…. I thought he could have. Probably my only accurate prediction in 20 years, so I have to pat myself on the back :)

  117. bruceb April 19th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    I know it’s easy being wise in hindsight but Colon’s stuff is a lot better than Garcia’s. I wonder whether Cashman might have made a different decision had he known Pettitte was coming back?

  118. Shame Spencer April 19th, 2012 at 10:26 am

    blake April 19th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Despite the results this year so far…..they made the right call on Colon vs Garcia given the info they had.

    ————————-

    Without a doubt. I think Colon will end up struggling again down the stretch this season if he doesn’t get a DL stint by mid July as well, but I still wanted them to sign him just to have another solid arm. …of course this was pre-Pettite :)

  119. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Tex needs to get that first bomb over with. He’s looked good over the last 5 games. He’s not a hopeless case.

    Still keeping my fingers crossed with Alex. If we hear he’s already feeling something in his knee/hip, well thats going to be a major bummer.

  120. blake April 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    “I know it’s easy being wise in hindsight but Colon’s stuff is a lot better than Garcia’s. I wonder whether Cashman might have made a different decision had he known Pettitte was coming back”

    I doubt it…..Colon looked cooked late last year…..they didn’t even put him on the postseason roster.

    If they had known Andy was coming back then my guess is they wouldn’t have signed Kuroda….and perhaps they use that money on Beltran…..at least that’s what they should have done as he’s showing he’s still really good when healthy.

  121. Your Worst Nightmare April 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    Gardner was placed on the 15 day DL this morning ?

  122. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Shame

    You mean you weren’t talking about Hydrotherapy all this time? :wink:

  123. randy l. April 19th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    “.but this apparent 2nd wind in his career coukd take him to any even higher level all time than previously thought…..”

    blake-

    in a way , the problem hughes has is what jeter does well. maybe jeter should be the one to coach hughes rather than a pitching coach.

    jeter has had all kinds of problems at various times. he had 45 errors at shortstop in in early years. he’s had injuries , major slumps, you name it. but what he does is simplify the game by focusing on what works for him.

    you don’t see him doing what other people tell him to do if it doesn’t work. he went with long for a while because he was really scuffling and was being open minded but at some point he went back to what he knew.

    jeter is very solid in how he approaches the game. he picks something and works on it until he gets it. with hughes, you get the feeling like clockwork every few months there some new tweak, some new pitch that’s going to make al the difference.

    how about like jeter picking an approach and wearing it out until it’s perfected. can anyone inside out a pitch better than jeter? hughes could get something like this going. he juts doesn’t commit strongly with his mind and focus the way jeter does.

    now jeter is special. hughes will never have jeter’s inner drive. but hughes has enough inner drive to be an all star. he really needs to simplify and work on commanding his fastball and get secondary pitch variations off the fastball. it’s not rocket science. hughes makes the game way too complicated while jeter has the mental ability to simplify it.

  124. djsunyc April 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    call up the giants and offer them soriano (while eating alot of his deal) + minor league OF for melky. start him in right and make swisher the permanent DH.

  125. Your Worst Nightmare April 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Interesting that the Yankees have elected to call up reliever Cody Eppley to replace Gardner on the roster.

  126. djsunyc April 19th, 2012 at 10:37 am

    and perhaps they use that money on Beltran…..at least that’s what they should have done as he’s showing he’s still really good when healthy.

    ————–

    unfortunately beltran got a huge 2 year deal and we were not giving out anything more than 1 season for a stop gap…

  127. Your Worst Nightmare April 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Maybe a good time to give Nunez some reps in the OF.

  128. randy l. April 19th, 2012 at 10:44 am

    ” I actually preferred Colon to Garcia despite the way he ended the year because I was certain (like many others on here) that his issue was fatigue from not pitching a full season in years. Colon’s stuff was always more impressive than Garcia’s, people just didn’t think he could do the first half of last season over again…. I thought he could have.”

    shame spencer-

    i’m still intrigued with that stem cell replacement treatment colon had. i’m kind of surprised the yankees didn’t look into that more. keeping colon around would have been a good pitching science experiment. his turn around is pretty amazing.

    pettitte , as much as i like him, is always complicating things with his wishy washiness of playing or not playing. i like him when he gets going , but the yankees often are making decisions that they might not make if they knew what pettitte was doing. the yankees may have put the rotation together very differently had pettitte committed early.

    i also like colon on the yankees because red sox fans i know hate him for some reason. he didn’t have a very good time with the red sox i guess. anyway they hate him.

    water over the dam with colon. the yankees have a whole bunch of guys to fit into 5 spots. hopefully a few step up and make the decision for girardi easy.

  129. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Colon more or less “walked out” on the Sox.

    I think he went to the DR and never came back.

  130. Shame Spencer April 19th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    dj – Beltran’s deal wasn’t ‘huge’ though. It was very reasonable for what he could give you.

    Randy – Couldnt agree more on Pettite. The whole Lee thing sort of centered around him leaving, too. The stem cell stuff was why I was okay with seeing what Colon had for another season. Especially since he, unlike Garcia, didn’t seem as adverse to coming out of the pen. I think if he was pitching better, he would have made a great Aceves like reliever out of the pen… which I still think we could use.

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